September 1st, 2011

The Darling of the BBC

So another good day for Labour Uncut, with a second round of leaked extracts from Darling’s “Back from the brink: 1000 days at No 11” this morning. Guido’s literary eyes-and-ears, who have seen a copy of the book, reckon yesterday’s snippets were bang on the money and deserved the follow-up coverage that they got. While yesterday there was silence from the BBC, today they have leapt all over one line about bankers:

“My worry was that they (the bankers) were so arrogant and stupid that they might bring us all down”.

Search as he might, Guido’s man can’t find this quote anywhere in the book. There could well be some Beeboid red faces next week if it turns out to be nonsense. Guido isn’t sure how lifting a blog story fits in with their triple sourcing lock, but they wouldn’t want anything to get in the way of a good banker bashing now would they?

Their print cousins also seem to have got things a little wide on the mark. Compare their article from November with their one yesterday:

Don’t believe everything you read in the papers…

UPDATE: The BBC get in touch to point out they did run the Darling story yesterday. On the website

They also say that they checked out yesterday’s quotes with the publisher. But are “attributing today’s to Labour Uncut”. Read into that what you will…


283 Comments

  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    BBC needs to stand on its own feet and be acountable to the people that pay for it.

    O/T Guido

    Kevin_Maguire Wikileaks suing Guardian over a leak is funniest thing since Kerry Katona demanded privacy http://t.co/kWoC6aY 8 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

  2. 2
    I Hate Tesco AND the Pope says:

    If he’d cared about the country he’d have resigned two years ago and taken down the one-eyed Scottish twat.

  3. 3
    The voice of unreason says:

    Is anyone dumb enough to read anything they read in the Guardian? *

    * term and conditions apply – does not apply if your postcode is NW1 or NW3

  4. 4
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    You know Guido, what really fucks me off is that the MSM knew what was happening when Labour were in power and said nothing yet the BBC steal money of people thier staff wouldnt piss on if they was on fire.

    Subscription is the only way forward, let them put themselves at the mercy of the market and not the threat of imprisonment if you fail to pay a enforced tax.

  5. 5
    say what you see says:

    Don’t believe everything you read here either.

  6. 6
    A different view says:

    “My worry was that they (the bankers) were so arrogant and stupid that they might bring us all down”.

    “My worry was that they (the voters) were so arrogant and stupid that they might bring us all down”.

    Fixed.

  7. 7
    MrAngry61 says:

    The only people who defend the licence fee/status quo are socialists.

    They contemptuously dismiss all criticism of the B-BBC as evidence of mental illness.

    They refuse to acknowledge that opposition to the Beeb’s philosophy has any validity.

  8. 8
    Yeah, right says:

    Did anyone else hear Polly ‘Mad Dog’ Tonbee on R4 this morning, talking knowledgably about social mobility?

    Was this a BBC attempt at irony or just a massive piss take?

  9. 9
    White Riot says:

    Spot on.

  10. 10
    Anonymous says:

    “While yesterday there was silence from the BBC,”

    That’s odd because I distinctly remember reading this story yesterday:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14732694

  11. 11
    Yeah, right says:

    I’d pay the license fee for TMS. They can keep the rest of the drivel.

  12. 12
    Sir William Waad says:

    The bankers were arrogant and stupid and they did bring us all down.

  13. 13
    Dave Laws says:

    Guido – this site is shit and in well in heed of overhaul. It takes 10 minutes to load and then is full of offensive bile.

    Sort it out!!!

  14. 14
    Yossarian says:

    Wow, “Billy Bowden” is sure on the money when it is a competition to say the silliest thing that pops in to your head.
    If a journalist has made an error or taken a short cut that is one thing and does not indicate the state of the BBC as a whole.
    I seem to remember seeing “Guido” on Newsnight were he ended up looking a little silly despite claiming journalistic integrity.
    Alistair Darling’s memoirs will indeed be interesting!

  15. 15
    HandsomeDavid says:

    I fully agree with you, being the best political site that has no censorship we tend to attract labour trolls who spew all sorts of bollox, Stereotypical lefties without a thought for themselves.

    Try posting on one of their sites and your posting gets deleted or fails to materialise altogether.

  16. 16
    Fuck the BBC says:

    The BBC is shit.

  17. 17
    Desperate Dan says:

    They were only able to do so because Gordon Brown created the FSA and removed all the banking controls. Pre-Gordon Brown, Scottish lunatics like Fred Goodwin wouldn’t have been able to create mayhem with our money.

  18. 18
    HandsomeDavid says:

    Silence as in radio or tv, geddit?

  19. 19
    say what you see says:

    Why haven’t you been charged with fraud you utter, utter c’unt?

  20. 20
    Terrible But True says:

    ‘Don’t believe everything you read in the papers…’

    Or anything that you see or hear via the genetically impartial national treasure, that ‘speaks for the public’.

    As to what one makes of what they decide to omit, editorially, which is as vast as it is selective these days, well…. nothing, by definition. And oozing out a weasel on a website backwater (or, more risibly, ‘Newswatch’) only highlights what the market rates in the edit suites decide to boost or kill on the top of the hour broadcast news, Newsnight or Bill & Sian’s comfy chair according to the quaint tribal agendas they deem high-integrity, professional news.

    Why are we compelled to fund this propaganda organ, however ‘uniquely’, again?

  21. 21
    MI5 says:

    My dear Guido

    You are ahead of us and No 10 on this affair

    You are the best source of real news around…

    HM Government is jealous of you

  22. 22
    MI5 says:

    Well done BTW

  23. 23
    Desperate Dan says:

    The BBC is the Polly Toynbee of broadcasting. There’s no need to listen to them because you know they’ll be talking hypocritical rubbish.

  24. 24
    Disgusted, Purley. says:

    Strange, it loads in a second on mine, you must be using a public sector computer, you know , bone fucking idle and as thick as two short planks.

  25. 25
    Yossarian says:

    Out of interest, this a forum those with far right views? Some of these posts are just offensive, how can simply swearing be a post?

  26. 26
    Archer Karcher says:

    He did care about his country…..Scotland.

  27. 27
    The Chief Thoght Controller of the BBC says:

    You should know, by now, that we are using Soviet tactics to try to disinform the British people

    We are, I admit, about 60 yerars out of date, but it all we know how to do

  28. 28
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Guido

    Have the BBC ever run a story straight from this blog without triple lock check on it?

  29. 29
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    No, It is a blog with lots of people that post thier own views or copy and pasted views and some nutters, The blog might have a right leaning bias , but the people that post? Far laft/right , centre/religoues etc….

  30. 30
    The Government's Auditor says:

    Abolish the BBC. One of the last of the State broadcasters in the civilised world

    Break it up and flog it off, and keep the BBC Library for the British people as a revenue earner

    That is the least that we can expect from an investment of £3.5 BILLION of taxpayers money PER YEAR

    PS Abolish the House of Lords at the same time. That would save another £400 million

  31. 31
    Depp says:

    To digress a little. Have you seen the sneering article by some snotty nosed chav hugger at the New Lefty Telegraph:

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/sebastianpayne/100102808/the-restore-capital-punishment-e-petition-has-fallen-flat-on-its-face/

    Did little Sebastian serve his apprenticeship at the Grauniad?

  32. 32
    Billy Blowhard says:

    Is that you Billy?

  33. 33
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    er, some on here are against the “restore Vengence” petition as are some lefties and libertarions and some righties.

  34. 34

    Think he is looking for attention, #9 / 6000 hardly falling flat on your face.

  35. 35
    Lord Tebbit, the last of the thinking grandees says:

    Agreed

    Let us start a petition to abolish the BBC licence fee

    And get these politicians off their arses

    People power I say, like in Libya…..They took down the transmitters of Libyan totalitarian TV by force

  36. 36
    Sir William Waad says:

    “You have devoted your life to poison and malevolence”

    Miiaow!

  37. 37
    Desperate Dan says:

    2005 General Election
    Labour won 9,552,436 votes – 768,521 more than the Tories. The BBC considered this to be a resounding victory.

    2010 General Election
    Tories won 10,703,754 votes – 2,094,227 more than Labour. The BBC consider the Tories to have no mandate.

  38. 38
    The Director of Politically Krect ‘n Convenient Troof at AlJaBeeba, the Brhoon Bullshit Corpse says:

    Look! If we say he wrote HE WROTE IT!

    We’re in the business of troof telling and eradicating lies, – though we sometimes need to switch that round.

    Now go away and PAY YOUR TELLY TAX!

    Tosser!

  39. 39
    Jack says:

    The leftie progressive teen weenies from Hampstead will never raise more than a handful of signatures..as Empty Ed Milli-Mossad is learning tgo his detriment…

    But THEY CONTROL THE PRESS AND TV

    Britain needs a real cultural revolution starting with the Press…

  40. 40
    Sir William Waad says:

    True, but left unsupervised with a can of petrol, there are others things one can do other than pour it out and set a match to it.

  41. 41
    Piers F-D says:

    Richard Wachman is well known as one of the stupidest journalists in London. I am consistently surprised that he is able even to spell his own name. Maybe the subs do it for him?

  42. 42
    blah blah blah says:

    Don’t forget fucking wankers like you!

  43. 43
    Archer Karcher says:

    It’s called socialist free speech, your opinion only matters when it chimes with their left wing marxist worldview.
    If your opinion is held by the majority of the population, it is derided as populist, which in their eyes is only a tiny step away from the racist or extremist insult, they are usually reserved, for any critisism of multi-culturalist / balkanisation or PC dogma.

  44. 44
    eh? says:

    Bet you didn’t vote for PR.

  45. 45
    lol! says:

    It is if you look at how many don’t want it restored!

  46. 46
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    PR wasnt offered.

    AV was.

  47. 47

    So labour list is a source of news?
    I suppose i could have guessed.

    10 o’clock news.. …. The lack of an adequate minimum wage of £33.67 / hour has led to widespread poverty in the north of England.
    A report into social deprivation in the inner cities reveals it was ‘Thatcher wot dun it.’
    And the main story again..Phone hacking by Andy Coulson caused global warming.

  48. 48
    Archer Karcher says:

    Both have zero self awareness, they would never realise in a thousand years, the gormless irony both daily peddle.

  49. 49

    Polly always resorts to the off topic defence when she’s exposed.
    I’m surprised she didn’t just accuse GF of being a misogynist and burst into tears.

  50. 50
    I am Cukka Ummamama says:

    Ooh mama of mama mama

  51. 51
    Anonymous says:

    I say hang him! As long as I can watch.

  52. 52

    They did run that one about Gordon being on medication.
    Marr asked him about it on TV.

    And so Marr joined the long list of people who made Gordon cry.

  53. 53
    I am Cukka Ummamama says:

    should have” ooh mama mama”

    Sorry for that mistake

    I am in Guido’s favourite ex-pub…

  54. 54
    I am Cukka Ummamama says:

    Like the whole of the Labour Party

  55. 55
    Desperate Dan says:

    This blog publishes the plain unvarnished truth.
    What the BBC triple checks are its claims, allegations, innuendoes, black propaganda and barefaced lies. It triple checks them with Miliprat, Balls, Mandelson, Prescott, Blair, Watson, McBride, Campbell, the Unions and the bloke who likes to pose in his underpants.

  56. 56
    Anonymous Cardinal says:

    The Labour Party corrodes the soul

  57. 57
    Sir William Waad says:

    Flamborough Head on the Yorkshire coast. Now there’s a place with far right views.

  58. 58
    Historian says:

    Wachman is a junior member of the Hampstead lodge

    Whence come so many members of the House of Ermin Vermin who never bought their titles

    ROFL

  59. 59
    Archer Karcher says:

    The BBC is utter, utter shite, without a shred of integrity, ran by people so far up their own arse, they couldn’t get it if it ran them over, end of story.

  60. 60
    Gooey Blob says:

    That would have left Ed Balls as chancellor. Not even the most malevolent left-winger would wish that on the country.

  61. 61
    MI5 says:

    Let us be more precise

    Hampstead represents the home of the bleeding heart lefties who worry so much about the poor that they make billions off their backs and then say they care about them (but use a few million to buy peerages on the way- it makes them respectable you see))

    Like Bill Clinton and his Democratic cohorts on Wall Street

    “The working class can kiss my arse

    (You know the rest)…

  62. 62
    Jack says:

    Sounds like Squeaker and Cicciolina to me

  63. 63
    Gooey Blob says:

    The BBC has integrity, it’s just biased. Sky News has just as much integrity, but it isn’t biased.

  64. 64
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    : “@MarkPack Bet you £500 quid I get more people to sign e-petition than LibDem party has members.”

    Bloody hell Guido

    I wanna see you take money of him as he is Hunt backer but that would mean signing the petiton that i dont agree with.

  65. 65
    Hoorah for the inglish says:

    Nah it would have been fine with Ed in charge he’s inglish after all and as we know its all about nationality not anyones individual competence or Political philosophies.

  66. 66
    klinky says:

    since when has a politicians book been anything other than self-gratifying bollocks?

  67. 67
    Archer Karcher says:

    Marr shat himself the instant he stammered it out and back peddled furiously for the rest of the interview.

  68. 68

    Not much of a bet. Shouldn’t be that hard to get over 351 signatures.

  69. 69
    Archer Karcher says:

    No need to abolish the BBC, just make it voluntary subscription only. Then you will see just how much anyone ‘cares’ about the drivel they broadcast and the phoney news agenda they support.

  70. 70
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Good point Bill, i have no need to sign it then :-)

    Phew…..

  71. 71
    Cyclops of Kirkcaldy says:

    Looks like Labour Uncut has removed the Darling piece.

  72. 72
    labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    Pollytwaddle dosen’t love the working class, she doesn’t even like the working class, she only likes the IDEA of the working class.

  73. 73
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    I doubt she has ever meet amember of the working class except her butler and cleaner.

  74. 74
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    May i digress a bit, about todays “Class” debate, surely only two classes exsist, the working class and the non working class?

    Ie if you are chief exec for a football club or a footballer where you are paid to perform a performance then no matter how much ( 1k- 200k a week) you are still working class, right?

    If you are a millionaire with no buisness just cash then you are part of the non working class?

  75. 75
    Anonymous says:

    Polly’s life, on the other hand, has been more devoted to snobbery, hypocrisy and greed.

  76. 76
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    · favorite
    HouseofTwits profile

    HouseofTwits RT @Elksy91 Stop the taxpayer-funding of trade unions in Tameside – Sign the Petition http://t.co/pKzfSLH 2 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

    A worthy petition.

  77. 77
    The only Jerermy Clarkson says:

    Billy Bowden the man who has packed more fudge than Thorntons

  78. 78
    Anonymous says:

    “My worry was that the bankers were so arrogant and stupid that they might bring us all down.” Quote attributed to Alistair Darling.

    Don’t worry, Darling. It wasn’t the bankers — or at least the four specific banks : RBOS, HBOS, Northern Rock and Bradford & Bingley, all based in Scotland or the North, and all run by New Labour bosses — who might have brought us down.

    It was the Labour Government, of which you were a member, and its insane level of public spending, which almost did bring us down.

    But the publicly-funded BBC will always be there for you, so please don’t worry any more.

    Feeling better, Darling ?

  79. 79
    labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    Q. What is that nice Mr Paten going to do about this?

    A. Go for a nice big lunch, with fine wines, and talk about the weather.

  80. 80
    Disco Dave says:

    Guido,

    Surprise surpise,

    The labour Uncut link is now 404.

    Tossers.

  81. 81
    nell says:

    Just sat down with a calming glass of wine after a hectic day and read pollytwaddle’s comment there on the right accusing Guido of poison and malevolence.

    ++++Laugh++++

    dear pollytwaddle for ‘poison and malevolence’ read gordonbrown or bullyballs or damianmcbride or yourself , nobody has ever done it better than your labour crew.

  82. 82
    Cameron Is A Cunt! says:

    And the fact that, once again, the BBC are proven to be lying politically biased left wing Hunts is a surprise why exactly???

  83. 83
    Disco Dave says:

    Radio is free. Keep yer money.

  84. 84
    Disco Dave says:

    Don’t forget the guy that cleans the pool at her villa in Tuscany.

    Oh, where would us little people be if it were not for people like her?

    Yep, we’d be much, much better off.

  85. 85
    Disco Dave says:

    Remove all the p orn from your hard drive and the computer will run faster.

    BTW Aren’t you a gay thief?

  86. 86
    East India Company wallah says:

    It was all part of thuggy eds business plan-overspend to give the impression of prosperity-over borrow to fund it-get the banks to open the lending taps (supply side QE) which debases the value of the pound and inflates away the debt percentile relative to GDP-over regulate to push costs up on all sectors to inflate away debt-have monetory policy committee hold interest rates low to discourage saving and underpin obscene house prices-have trade unions seek inflationary wage rises-inflation is a socialist tool and the only tool in the box

  87. 87
    Disco Dave says:

    Pants, Tried to avoid the mod-bot with the word por n but got zapped for the letter that comes after ‘o’.

    Sort the modding son, it getting ridiculous. People post VILE photos, and they get through. Others use letters of the alphabet and it gets zapped.

    You sure you’re not a Labour control freak?

  88. 88
    BBC Controller says:

    There is nothing sinister going on here.

    It is always necessary to re-write interpret history so that broad opinion eventually swings into line with the correct perception of events.

  89. 89
    BillyBob... says:

    I would not p*ss on the Beeeb if they were on fire !!

    BBC News is nothing better than Blue Peter !!

  90. 90
    East India Company wallah says:

    awaiting moderation for what?

  91. 91
    East India Company wallah says:

    And what really gets on my T*T* is the fact it takes up to two hours to release comments from their literary cell-libertarian (small L)

  92. 92
    Doctor m , pollys state funded therapist says:

    The keys to her cell went missing for a short time and she got out
    A full investigation is underway

  93. 93
    lawboy1976 says:

    Nowhere else to say this, so I’ll put it here: That Toynbee quote is awesome.

    Well done. A true achievement to have rankled such an obscene harpy.

  94. 94
    The BBC is biased says:

    Well, I suppose as long as he’s been to confession and repented, it’s OK.

  95. 95
    SonofBoudicca says:

    Joseph Goebbels would have been proud of the BBC’s method of propaganda, if not it’s politics.

  96. 96
    M says:

    Rewriting darlings memoirs is easy to rewriting history
    Socialists will always cast seed of hate into the minds of the public in the hope that something might spawn & if you care to look back through human history its scared by socialists isolating sections of society & persecuting it to further their ambition . Bankers are just pricks working a system to distruction

  97. 97
    William says:

    She probably couldn’t spell miss oginist.

  98. 98
    jgm2 says:

    I think she must have confused Guido with the ‘wicked and malicious’ Gordon Brown.

  99. 99
    jgm2 says:

    Indeed.

    Proof, if proof be needed, that she reads these pages.

    **HI POLLY*** Loving the fact that those jackasses at the Guardian pay you all that money to swoon about the lack of social mobility when you, after failing 11+, acquiring a single ‘A’ level somehow managed to swing a place at Oxford and then just dropped out and got a job working for a national newspaper.

    You must laugh yourself to sleep in Tuscany laughing at the naive fuckers who fell for all that.

  100. 100
    jgm2 says:

    Standard Labour operating policy. [SLOP]. They always play the man – not the ball.

  101. 101
    jgm2 says:

    Amazing how 30 years of gerrymandering can work in Labour’s favour innit.

  102. 102
    back to the sink! says:

    Jesus wept, you really go on woman.

  103. 103
    AV / PR / Tomato / Tomatoe says:

    So fucking what! Politicos don’t give a toss about anyone other than themselves.

  104. 104
    The only Jerermy Clarkson says:

    STUFF LIKE THIS ?

  105. 105
    Corporal Gaddafi says:

    Amazing. Labour gets blamed for the modding on this site now. For goodness sake give it a break it’s becoming rather silly.

  106. 106
    Corporal Gaddafi says:

    The above was for post 83.

  107. 107
    Col. Muammar KQadaffi (retd.) says:

    The women must arm themselves and overthrow these drug-crazed rats. Let Britain erupt in flames!
    Meanwhile I shall remain in hiding for tactical reasons.

  108. 108
    Gordon Scumbag Brown says:

    attributed to Labour Uncut what the fuck!!!!!!
    Naturally they made that perfectly clear in all the reports NOT

    BBC = CNUTS

  109. 109
    The only Jerermy Clarkson says:

    You left out that her minge probably stinks like a rat has died in there

    I bow nobody in my dislike for the green spherical mark on a persons undies
    , however I would climb over nim (no small task the fat front bottom) to slot her and all of her kind

  110. 110
    Gordon Scumbag Brown says:

    WACIST!

  111. 111
    fistful of dorries says:

    it’s what women do

  112. 112
    A little old Lady from Upton middleshit says:

    Yossarian
    FUCK OFF U FUCKING FUCKED FUCKETY FUCKED UP FUCKWIT FFS!

  113. 113
    Belen says:

    http://themurdochempireanditsnestofvipers.blogspot.com/2011/09/hackgate-cameron-and-murdoch.html

    Guido get your eyes and ears around this allegation of Murdoch and Cameron blackmailing Gordon Brown. I am now going to listen very carefully to the words Brown used when he ripped into Murdoch and News International, he said something about the cover up being worse than the crime…

  114. 114

    We’ll see when his book comes out. But I have long suspected Darling of being “the good nazi.”

    He refused to implement Brown’s scorched earth, Nero orders.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero_Decree

    For that, when the New labour leaders face their UK Nuremberg trials, Darling will escape the hangman and just get 10 years in The Tower.

  115. 115
    Observer says:

    But they acted in conjunction with central bankers, the regulators and various governments, particularly the Blair/Brown one. Any individual can make a mistake, but nearly bringing down the whole economic system takes real teamwork.

  116. 116
    all rich people says:

    Fuck you all!

  117. 117
    Larry the Cat for PM says:

    Labour supporters and activists are hilarious. Every single one I’ve asked politely on Twitter to defend Labour’s record has either responded with insults or just blocked me. :-D They really don’t like to be reminded of ID cards, 42 days detention, rendition and torture, 1m Iraqis killed, PFI, knighting Fred Goodwin, deals with Gaddafi, 25p a week increase in pensions, McBride, Jo Moore, and slumber parties for Brooks! They want voters to forget they did all of that.

  118. 118
    Don't believe anything you read in the papers says:

    Balls claims 2009 was not the right time for him to be chancellor. Wtf? There will never be a right time for Ballsup to handle an economy!

  119. 119
    The BBC says:

    Whats wrong with sourcing our news from a blog run by an objectional welsh retard?

  120. 120

    Cash for peerages really winds them up. And mentioning man of the people Lord ermine of Prescott causes some discomfort.

  121. 121
    Backbreaking Bullying Cunts says:

    Red faces? The BBC never admit to mistakes. The BBC is always right even when it is wrong. BBC Trust will lie if it has to. Pay your licence fee suckers.

  122. 122
    OHOHOHOH says:

    The so called progressive elite ohohohoho cept when it comes to forcing a regressive tax on everyone for propaganda lol lol lol.

  123. 123
    FFS! says:

    You c’unts are too trusting in the c’unts who are in notional and very temporary charge of you.

    Grow up FFS!

  124. 124
    OHOHOHOH says:

    Also the bankers don’t charge me 150 quid a year on threat of imprisonment to watch their bullshit and deluded world view.

  125. 125
    Engineer says:

    Your post must have rattled a cage somewhere in the Beeb, Guido. Eddie Mair did a reasonably fair job of reporting and discussing Labour Uncut’s scoop on the PM programme. Latish on, about 5:45-ish, if I recall correctly. Might be worth a rootle in the ‘play it again’ version on the website.

  126. 126
    An 'onest rioter. says:

    I would riot outside and inside the bank but they don’t have designer gear or trainas for chavs and no mobile phones to pinch. Unfair innit?

  127. 127
    Larry the Cat for PM says:

    My favourite one referred to Brown as “Gordie”. :-D Another said he’s a decent man. I said “So decent, that’s why his staff called a bullying helpline. And why he bullied a pregnant woman into giving up her first class seat for him”. Funnily enough I didn’t get a reply. :-D

  128. 128
    jgm2 says:

    Further proof she’s just taking the p155.

    From her Q&A….

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/31/polly-toynbee-class-q-and-a

    Grammar school – All those famous people would have made it – and more of them – through the comprehensive system- which, just statistically, has held no-one back.

    Stop and think about what she’s claiming. She’s claiming that the poor kids who ‘made it’ would have ‘made it’ no matter how shite their education.

    I’m betting that if Cameron or Boris or Zac Goldsmith were to claim they’d have ‘made it’ no matter how shite their education she’d swallow her fucking tongue.

    Intellectually she’s right down there with plankton.

  129. 129
    Posionous Polly says:

    Beddy bye times for Polly. Don’t forget to drink yer hemlock err Horlicks.

  130. 130
    Billy Vague says:

    I prefer being fudge-packed in an Hotel.

  131. 131
    joescotus says:

    all socialists are shite brained self regarding stinking hypocritcal rancid Hunts …and that sums up the leaders. those stupid bastards who vote for them dont know any better describe a socialist…”the slimy cowards who hide in the high ground behind the bushes, and when the battle is over,scurry like rats down the hill to rob the dead and butcher the wounded…fucking Hunts ,the lot of them

  132. 132
    Lickmyfuckingneck says:

    http://t.co/ZKcrmfv Well well well

  133. 133
    FFS! says:

    p.s. You still keep voting for the same old rancid criminal c’unts every five years too!

    Fuck you and fuck them!

  134. 134
    joescotus says:

    126joescotus says:
    September 1, 2011 at 8:33 pm
    all socialists are shite brained self regarding stinking hypocritcal rancid Huhnes …and that sums up the leaders. those stupid bastards who vote for them dont know any better describe a socialist…”the slimy cowards who hide in the high ground behind the bushes, and when the battle is over,scurry like rats down the hill to rob the dead and butcher the wounded…fucking Huhnes ,the lot of them

  135. 135
    Marcus Agius says:

    I am the senior independent Director of the BBC Trust

    And Chairman of Barclays Bank

    And married to a Rothschild

    A accumulate all the sins

    Says it all really…

  136. 136
    The only Jerermy Clarkson says:

    New Labour is more back scuttling than back biting
    However they are all as bad as each other

    HOP
    Homosesexuals on Parade

  137. 137
    grow up! says:

    But they impose their deluded world view of massive salaries and bonuses for them for doing fuck all except press a few buttons and all the rest of you can sod right off.

    The bankers have cost you and millions of others many magnitudes of £150 for their recklessness and greed by the way.

  138. 138
    Pickled Wizard says:

    Be fair disgusted – Dave is still at work (and clocking up overtime payments!)

  139. 139
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    Darling was the best Chancellor the 1997 -2010 Labour goverment ever had.

  140. 140
    toot toot says:

    I used to be a Banker and in my youth I voted Labour – I am more ashamed of the latter.

  141. 141
    A Plankton says:

    Give over mate. She couldn’t even get a pub quiz team down here.

  142. 142
    Engineer says:

    It’s at 53:00 minutes in, and lasts till 57:20.

    Nothing that regular readers of this blog (and indeed some other news sources, eg the Telegraph, didn’t know two years ago, but at least the Beeb are starting to get there. Slowly.)

  143. 143
    The only Jerermy Clarkson says:

    Suck my ass with jelly
    Peter used to before I got released and Tony let me be PM
    “Toss my salad”
    Its a sensational feeling fucking up the world
    Most Scotchmen love it
    As a newcomer I swapped Gold at the bottom of the market for worthless paper
    So now you are all tossing our salads
    Now we be straight

  144. 144

    Yossarian,

    Want to know how Gordo Minderbinder sold gold at $275 in London yet bought it back at $1205 in Tokyo and still made a profit?

    So do I.

  145. 145
    Disco Dave says:

    At least the muppets are not getting blamed for wrecking the economy, again, eh?

    Tosser.

    Labour: Lying, immigrant- loving, gyppo-hugging, chav-producing, feckless, vain, immoral, traitorous, morally-relativistic, post-modernist, money-grubbing, hypocritical, sexually deviant pieces of shit.

    It’s in their DNA.

    PS For a swab of the above, try Peter Mandelson’s ring.

  146. 146
    Seth the pig farmer says:

    Touche!

    My vote for comment of the day

  147. 147
    Fabians are Evil says:

    Some things make me smile

    “Alistair Darling’s memoirs should give Ed Miliband some concerns about Ed Balls’ suitability to be shadow chancellor. Ed Balls recently claimed that he ‘did his politics on the record’, but he has already been shown to have been at the heart of the plot to oust Tony Blair. Now Alistair Darling accuses him of running a shadow treasury operation within his own government. No wonder Labour left the nation’s finances in such a mess when they put party political plotting above the national interest.”

  148. 148
    Horns of a dilemma says:

    Shurely shome mishtake…

    “Is anyone dumb enough to *believe* anything they read in the Guardian?”

  149. 149
    Horns of a dilemma says:

    The BBC is shit and Labour is Brown

  150. 150
    say what you see says:

    Lib/Lab/Con = all the same c’unts

  151. 151
    annette curton says:

    Hmm, Radio 4 early am today mentioned Darlings memoirs in respect of his recollections that Mervyn King was obstinate (studio smirks heard in the background) but strangely (well not really) no mention of him calling Gordon Brown “brutal and volcanic”, those are the only two snippets of the memoir I heard from other sources in the msm, no surprise that the BBC decides to selectively champion its very own political agenda yet again.

  152. 152
    Billy's stalker says:

    Al Ja Beeba getting touchy? You are definitely going up in the world.

  153. 153
    nell says:

    You do plankton a great disservice.

    It has a purpose and useful place in the food chain.

    pollytwaddle has no useful purpose.

  154. 154
    Osama the Nazarene says:

    +1

  155. 155
    the truth says:

    Some bankers, their lying borrowers, all the Labour party, the BoE and the FSA
    have all played their part. Of all of them Gordon Brown is the uberc’unt.

  156. 156
    Osama the Nazarene says:

    I read what I read
    And that’s all that I read
    I’m Popeye the sailor man

  157. 157
    Osama the Nazarene says:

    lol

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    nell says:

    p.twaddle is twittering on tonight about social mobility. Since she’s rather dim and upper class and has done nothing to help anyone else improve their chances in life her pontificatig and empty words are a bit of a laugh!

    And of course the other old labour dame after gordon and pollytwaddle is vanessaredgrave,another upper class idiot feathering her own nest whilst telling other people they have to put up with itinerant vandals, thieves and antisocial tra vell ers on their doorstep (not in her backyard of course!!).

    labour is fast becoming irrelevant to the lives of real working class people.

  159. 159
    Ooh I say says:

    The system is to blame. The system that all parties prostitute themselves to and take bribes from.

    Retribution and revolution are the only actions these bastards understand. Unfortunately, for them, it will be too late. For me however it will be the greatest feeling ever.

  160. 160
    The BBC says:

    ‘Minimum wage’? Surely you mean ‘living wage’. ie, the wage you need to be able to subscribe to the Guardian.

  161. 161
    I'm number vi says:

    As far asI’m concerned, the BBC re-write history all the time.
    Well, all the time a leftie might be in danger of any form of criticism.

    Hopefully, the BBC which actually *did* used to be a braodcasting giant will be brought to its knees by being dragged kicking and screaming in to the 21st century.
    It has only itself to blame owing to its bias.
    I hope it dies painfully.

  162. 162
    misterned says:

    The really sobering thought is the realisation that if Brown had won as many votes in 2010, as Major’s tories won in 1997 (when the tories were hammered into humiliating defeat), then Brown would have remained in place as PM.

    THAT is how massively biased and rigged the system is.

    Brown won almost a million fewer votes in 2010 than Major in 1997! How the fuck is that anything other than a massive and undeniable thrashing?

  163. 163
    John Noakes says:

    I resent that remark.

  164. 164
    misterned says:

    Since one was written by Ron Paul?

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    The BBC's unofficial spokesperson says:

    Look, we didn’t see that bit when we got the story from the Guardian.
    Resouces innit, we don’t have enough because of the cuts from the Tory led coallition.
    Rite Brah?

  166. 166
    Nodrog Nworb says:

    My country isn’t listed.

  167. 167
    Tessa Tickles says:

    This is Milimong’s very real problem.

    I’m working class. I work. I pay tax.

    Why in God’s name would I vote Labour (again)?

    I’m not a bl@ack, one-legged, lesbian, single-parent (16 kids) asylum-seeker hankering after a (free) 8 bedroom house in Primrose Hill.

    Why would I vote for Milimong’s Parasite Party? It has nothing to offer the British worker. Labour is defunct.

  168. 168
    albacore says:

    Ooh! Now you’ve done it, Fawkes. Polly reckons she’s got your number.
    Did you consider asking her when was the last time she cleaned her own lavatory pan?

  169. 169
    AC1 says:

    Takes a Regulator as incompetent as brown with a love of debt.

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    jgm2 says:

    Indeed. And don’t let the greedy and/or stupid voters off the hook either.

    All those who after, on average, 12 years of maths at school, really did think that it was entirely normal that their houses would go up 15% every single year even though the published rate of inflation was 3%. And, as a result their pay was only going up 3% per year (unless you were working for the government – in which case it was still ‘only’ going up 10% a year).

    Yes, they thought to themselves. That is entirely normal. Nothing is being ‘fixed’ there. What could possibly be wrong with that scenario.

    I shall vote Labour for more of this economic miracle.

    Fucking imbeciles. Imbeciles led by imbeciles.

  171. 171
    nell says:

    Absolutely Tessa.

    labour has become the welfare benefits party.

    labour has NOTHING in common with anyone who works for a living, for anyone who believes in decency, marriage and the family, for anyone dependent on agriculture or living in a rural area, or for anyone who believes that we should have sensible housekeeping and live within our means.

  172. 172
    Fillipino maid says:

    Her commode, peasant.

  173. 173
    nell says:

    Now you’re being silly.

    Like baroness scotland she’s never had a duster in her hand. I doubt she’s ever poured her own multiple glasses of champagne . That’s what servants are for you know!!

    like the good socialist gad afi – the rest of the populace is there to slave away for the comfort of the socialist elite!!

  174. 174
    jgm2 says:

    Stupid woman thinks that the poor kids who ‘made it’ would have done so irrespective of which school they’d gone to.

    Right. Excellent. We’re looking to save a few quid since the fucking Imbecile she cheered to the rafters destroyed the economy.

    Looks like we can save a fortune in education because Polly doesn’t seem to think it matters what kind of an education you receive – the good ones (such as herself presumably) will rise to the top. Cameron and Boris and Zac Goldsmiths parents were just p155ing their money away it seems. Their kids would have been successful no matter which school they’d have gone to.

    Polly says so.

    With Polly as our guide we can slash education spending by 50%. At least. For starters. After all, she’s proven, with statistics – so it must be true, that no matter how shit state schools are the poor kids will rise to the top. In fact the shitter the schools the more poor people will rise to the top. She actuallysaid that. without the word ‘shit’ obviously.

    Well, Labour have certainly made schools as shit as possible although I’m sure they could have made them that shit for about 10% of the cost.

    Polly will now point to the success of the children of penniless Asian immigrants imported by the million to ‘prove’ the success of Labour’s education policy. Look, she will say, look how the poor have stormed the medical and law schools of the UK. Totally missing the point that the poor who have been successful will be massively skewed by the children of immigrants who have succeeded precisely because their parents believe in the value of education while the native, nth generation NEETS continue to fail precisely because their parents don’t value education no matter how much cash you throw at the fuckers.

  175. 175
    OHOHOHOH says:

    But no revolution over the BBC’s propaganda or throwing those who don’t pay it into jail eh? Jog on comrade……

  176. 176
    nell says:

    Well thank the lord working women are doing it if idle men can’t be bothered to make the effort!

    someone has to make a stand against militwit’s anti-work, pro welfare benefit, spendspendspend party!!!

  177. 177
    nell says:

    Point is why would uk parents on welfare benefits , who were themselves poorly educated in labour’s trash comprehensives and living handsomely off labour’s welfare benefits , tell their children to get a decent education for a decent job when they think their kids and the grandkids should just keep living idly off benefits??!!

  178. 178
    Father Jack says:

    Too true Engineer, the beeboid twats would have been over it like a ‘Coulson rash’ if it was about the Tories. FFS!!

  179. 179

    Polly shouldn’t have tried taking on GF.

    “She will regret it just once… and that will be continuously.”

    I can feel a caption competition featuring a glass of champagne and a villa coming on.

  180. 180
    jgm2 says:

    Fucking hell.

    The story has been completely ‘unhappened’ from the BBC. I linked to it in an earlier post and now the link points to a story that has been totally rewritten. Nothing at all to do with Fred Goodwin – instead it’s Balls allegedly telling ‘cabinet colleagues’ that he didn’t want to be chancellor back in 2009.

    They really are a bunch of c*unts at the BBC.

    What next?

    Will they be putting up stories from ‘The National Enquirer’ and running them as fact until somebody objects?

    They might as well. They let the UK equivalent of ‘The National Enquirer’ host a Q&A on ‘social mobility today.

    Mad old bat says ‘World War II bomber found on moon’ – print it as fact.

    Mad old bat claims poor kids would have been more successful without grammar schools – print it as fact.

    The BBC has given up all pretence at being a news organisation. It is now no better than Pat Robinson’s Christian Channel. Pure faith-based reporting of any old shit that chimes with their pre-conceived ideas.

  181. 181
    AC1 says:

    Convincing people that house inflation (collapse in house affordability) made them better off was the best trick the devil ever pulled.

  182. 182
    Father Jack says:

    This Pesto snippet must have been on the home page of Al-Beeba for at least a fortnight now…wonder why? Pesto is an unintelligible twat !

    Andy Coulson, the former editor of the News of the World, received several hundred thousand pounds from News International after starting work as the Conservative Party’s Director of Communications in July 2007. Mr Coulson has been arrested on suspicion of involvement in phone hacking and bribing the police. The payments were part of his severance package, under what is known as a “compromise agreement”.

  183. 183
    Ooh I say says:

    I’d be more than happy to see Broadcasting House torched.

  184. 184
    WVM says:

    ++CLAPS++

    +1

  185. 185
    Hit the nail says:

    on the head

  186. 186
    Father Jack says:

    It’s the Beeboid’s ‘Memory Hole’! Watch this space as I expect Beeboidia to reduce the chocolate ration next !! Cnuts!!!

  187. 187
    Foo says:

    The relevant page on Labour uncut is now taken down !

    404 error.

    Red faces all round, apt.

  188. 188
    jgm2 says:

    It’s deliberate.

    The BBC is at war with the competition.

    They want to maintain their position as monopoly supplier of ‘truth’ to the UK population.

    They certainly don’t want any bastard like Murdoch challenging their cosy left-wing ‘consensus’.

  189. 189
    Fred the Shred ( knighted by Gordon Brown ) says:

    “My worry was that they (the bankers) were so arrogant and stupid that they might bring us all down”.

    Excuuuuuuse me, Darling, your erstwhile boss, said I was a genius !!

    You and he loved me so much, you bought the company……….

  190. 190
    get a room already! says:

    I’m sure GF can feel your cock up his arse just now.

  191. 191

    Sky News now reporting that “WW2 bomber has now disappeared from the moon.”

  192. 192
    UKUCUNT says:

    ‘We’ll keep the red faces smiling here’

  193. 193

    Sky News now reporting that “WW2 bomber has now vanished from the moon.”

  194. 194
    nell says:

    why is it that labour are always so foul and abusive and never able to debate objectively?!

    It couldn’t be to do with the fact that they just do not have any credible policies could it?!

  195. 195

    Just an observation.

    If you’re a liberal thinker who believes in basic human decency and that some poor people become angry and lash out just because of their social situation and they don’t like right of centre governments, then its best not to pick a fight with the class bully.

    He will delight in showing you that some people lash out just because they enjoy punching your face in.

  196. 196
    get a room already! says:

    Lib/Lab/Con have the same policies nell. Enrich themselves and fuck everyone else.

    Haven’t you managed to grasp that single, simple fact in your dotage?

  197. 197

    Found the actual quote now.

    “My worry was that he (the wanker) was so arrogant and stupid that he might bring us all down”.

    PM describes his chancellor. May 2002.

    from
    A Journey by T.Blair.

  198. 198
    balanced viewer says:

    He flipped his houses to avoid capital gains tax and did them up at our expense, but the Brown did that funny thing of giving his flat to his wife, doing up the Scottish pad as a 2nd home, whilst living in two we already gave him etc etc etc – so maybe they were as bad as each other in moral compass terms?

  199. 199
    jgm2 says:

    Now, the same fucking imbeciles – with the help of Labour/BBC are suddenly swooning about the lack of affordable housing. Even though house p*r*i*ces are actually lower now than they were five years ago. When they had no problem at all with the insane p*r*i*ce of houses.

    Entirely normal, nothing to see here, miracle economy, move along.

    Five years ago the houses were all affordable under Brown’s economic miracle. But now that they’re cheaper they’re suddenly unaffordable and it’s a fucking crisis.

    Labour/BBC are full-on Alice-in-Wonderland in their reportage.

  200. 200
    Clay pipe says:

    toot toot!

  201. 201
    jgm2 says:

    He certainly brought all us down.

  202. 202
    lol! says:

    I bet the c’unt votes Tory.

  203. 203
    annette curton says:

    Only the two posts of mine tonight that have disappeared into the ether (but this could be number three) one about the Toynbee and the other about Mandelson, are you the subject of a restraining order from Nicket and Swift, solicitors at law, Guido?.

  204. 204
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever! says:

    Caught out.

  205. 205
    nell says:

    ‘get a room already’

    you’re talking about labour – you just don’t realise it you poor socially deficient person!

  206. 206
    East India Company wallah says:

    Idly living off benefits?–someone has to get out to bring home the skunk,baccy, lager and the pizza-bigoted woman!

  207. 207
    nell says:

    Just a thought.

    When is the labour party going to revert to becoming the voice for real labour/working class people?!

    No doubt someone with a better sense of history than me can tell me when the labour party really did represent working people but I suspect the last time it happened was somewhere in the 1940’s!!

  208. 208
    The only Jerermy Clarkson says:

    let us all savour this yet again

  209. 209
    WVM says:

    Hey and don’t forget the enriching mass immigration and multi cult PC cluster fuck they left behind too. Poor kids are fucking riddled with it now’a’days.

  210. 210
    wake up woman! says:

    When will the fucking Tory party be a party for Britain, the British and not fucking Europe?

  211. 211
    jgm2 says:

    France fought a long and bitter war in Algeria but when they finally did the right thing and pulled out it could only be done under the leadership of an extreme nationalist like De Gaulle. If a socialist president had attempted such a thing he’d have been shot or there would have been a civil war. Or both.

    For the same reason there is one only party that can tell the nth generation indigenous wasters of the UK that their predicament is (almost) entirely their own fucking fault. That they have been showered with cash for generations and yet they still wallow in failure while the first generation children of immigrants (the Irish, the Indians) march straight up the social mobility ladder.

    The only party that can get away with telling the truth to the native underachievers without provoking a civil war is the Labour party. Yet they choose not to do so. Purely to maintain their grip on the votes of the native underachievers who want nothing better than to be told that it’s not their fault. That some ‘other’ fucker is actively engaged in keeping y’all under the hoof.

    Yes. Of course we are. There is nothing better I like than driving around looking at shit council estates. Cheers me right up it does. Every weekend I jump in the Car and head off to Crawley to Drive around shit estates and cheer myself up. Look, I say to mysefl, look at those thick, uneducated Hunts living in squalor. Ha! I feel better already. I shall drive up to Woolwich and really cheer myself up.

    And the stupid fuckers believe them (Labour). Yep. It’s entirely rational that rich folk would want millions of stupid, unemployable, feral fuckwits at large.

    Labour truly are wicked and malicious bastards.

  212. 212
    jgm2 says:

    France fought a long and bitter war in Algeria but when they finally did the right thing and pulled out it could only be done under the leadership of an extreme nationalist like De Gaulle. If a socialist president had attempted such a thing he’d have been shot or there would have been a civil war. Or both.

    For the same reason there is one only party that can tell the nth generation indigenous wasters of the UK that their predicament is (almost) entirely their own fucking fault. That they have been showered with cash for generations and yet they still wallow in failure while the first generation children of immigrants (the I*r*i*sh, the In*di*ans) march straight up the social mobility ladder.

    The only party that can get away with telling the truth to the native underachievers without provoking a civil war is the Labour party. Yet they choose not to do so. Purely to maintain their grip on the votes of the native underachievers who want nothing better than to be told that it’s not their fault. That some ‘other’ fucker is actively engaged in keeping y’all under the hoof.

    Yes. Of course we are. There is nothing better I like than d*r*i*v*ing around looking at shit council estates. Cheers me right up it does. Every weekend I jump in the C*a*r and head off to Crawley to D*r*i*ve around shit estates and cheer myself up. Look, I say to mysefl, look at those thick, uneducated c*unts living in squalor. Ha! I feel better already. I shall d*r*i*ve up to Woolwich and really cheer myself up.

    And the stupid fuckers believe them (Labour). Yep. It’s entirely rational that rich folk would want millions of stupid, unemployable, feral fuckwits at large.

    Labour truly are wicked and malicious bastards.

  213. 213
    annette curton says:

    What’s the crack, three posts all mod’ed out of existence, to crush a butterfly?.

  214. 214
    jgm2 says:

    Fred Goodwin? He’s S&P mate. Fervent supporter.

  215. 215
    WVM says:

    Interesting factoid 273.
    Did you know the Germans at the time learned every propaganda trick from reading up on us British and how we controlled the masses back in the good old empire days.

  216. 216
    Celebrity Leach on Channel 5 says:

    Balls is an arsehole.

  217. 217
    get a room already! says:

    I’m talking about the political establishment shitting over all and sundry for their own ends; you know it too but don’t want to rinse that blue dye from your hair.

    Your loss, I stopped trusting people in positions of power years ago.

    I laugh at people like you. It hurts being laughed at doesn’t it.

  218. 218
    Strictly come leaching says:

    It is strictly not economical for the BBC to tell the truth.

  219. 219
    Jerermy Clarkson the voice of reason and the greatest umpire ever says:

    You failed biology

  220. 220
    WVM says:

    The BBC is full of Left-wing Socialist Trotsky Pinko Maoist Commie Marxist Leninist Stalinist Red bastards!

  221. 221
    WVM says:

    But pass Modern British Politics with a distinction.

  222. 222
    In the Company of leeching says:

    Back from the brink? Looking into the void, more.

  223. 223
    do keep up says:

    In response the Con party you love continues to give us useless windfarms.

    Have a look at how many in the Con party are making millions providing this “clean, carbon neutral” bollocks energy source at your expense.

    Conservative? Conserving whose existence? Yours? Fucking no way!

  224. 224
    Al of a Thousand Days says:

    Leave the Guardian BBC alone – we they are a splendid institution!

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    lol! says:

    Sky News loves the establishment line just as much as the BBC – they are just better at hiding it.

  227. 227
    annette curton says:

    Problem is I’m note sure the audience took the facts of the matter on board, but then it was a hand picked BBC audience.

  228. 228
    Anonymous says:

    You feckin tory wakners (yes wakners). What about the latest cuts to the growth forecasts? Not a feckin word eh?

  229. 229
    BBC Immigration Department says:

    Not so. We are not full yet.

    There’s plenty of room for more Left-wing Socialist Trotsky Pinko Maoist Commie Marxist Leninist Stalinist Red bastards from Eastern Europe and all points East.

  230. 230
    Larry the Cat says:

    I am writing a book called stroke my poosy. It is about my terrible time dealing with the worms in my ring.

  231. 231
  232. 232
    Smokie says:

    It’s a winner, you will get an invite to the BBC’s early morning breakfast couch to promote it.

  233. 233
    joescotus says:

    this arsehole’s got the same smug look as st johann liar ,make it all up, no one will notice, of nonce.

  234. 234
    joescotus says:

    thats the first and only reaction fucktard lefties can do when you confront them with truth they totally ignore you

  235. 235
  236. 236
    Global Warming Catastrophe NOW please says:

    It’s the Sun wot did it.

  237. 237
    Larry the Cat says:

    They must kiss my paw.

  238. 238
    joescotus says:

    calm down peeps watch your blood pressure,

  239. 239
    not a machine says:

    Surpised you didnt run comment by Ed Balls on veryfying being asked by the ruin if he wanted chancellors job ! “not really the right plan for me ”

    I watched NN , half expecting bit of tussle over concreting the countryside between Simon Jenkins and Greg Clark to be errm a partial appology that policy is loose and wasnt ment to bring the worst of forced housing blight and communist planning to the countryside …… Now gregs style often does come across as a slippery sort of discussion however paxmans first question was instantly right , and Greg gave no reassurances of the sort that rural locations/greenbelt would be off the list as he would steam ahead with all other options first .
    I think presentation wise the policy is a bit of dogs dinner , if planning no longer plans for the protection of the countryisde and rural landsacpes in a simple enough manner , then one cannot help but conclude that its been rodgered by lobby groups . indeed although the interview did not perhaps get round to some better questions on what Greg and this policy will do , you would have thought Greg would have been right on been with all the rural votes that played an important part in the conservatives succes , by not doing this or it seems there being a near total lack of anyone championing rural life and its contribution to the country , is beginning look like an arrogent two fingered slippery thankyou .

    If I had my way , i would tell all these builders holding green belt land to sell it , and return it to productive agricultural uses , and then make it as near to impossible for such a scenario to return to lobby deals ever again . But why you may ask .

    1) no doubts a decent house building programme does help the economy , but so does a buffered food supply , and rural pusuits which will come under presuure as a direct result .

    2) there are empty houses , there are houses that need replacing and quite a bit of brownfield to go at first . By putting quality energy efficent housing in urban areas , it will reduce enegy consumption , reduced home energy consumption leads to more cash in pocket and improved economy in urban areas , it does not have same effect in rual areas .

    3) we are basically full , we farm intensively as it is , the goverment should be looking at close to sale , market gardens and so building on greenbelt when you may need to be growing stuff to help with transport costs , is mind numbingly dumb , and why the governement has staryed off this long term , idea is beyond me , as the future does seem to need a more local supply chain and reduced food miles .

    4) at 60% self sufficent in food I prseume greg hopes we all be able to eat cake or concrete to get by in the future .

    Whilst some urban poor people dont really understand the countryside ,its a bit of a slog to find that the urban rich peoples view has become so short term oppertune , ultimately at the cost of agriculture and less presuursed sytems of farming . I dont think greg is thick , but my goodness , whoever is overseeing this policy is .I had just about had enough of Huhnes energy approach , but this is some sort of treachery of the sort i though we had voted out , and very dissapointing for those of us that helped boot the last lot out , horse lobby will be well chuffed by increased costs to feed and paddock .

    Now let me think which party is it , that wants us out of the EU , safer farming systems and british jobs for british workers ?…………used to be the conservatives ………party shot self in the foot ……….I should say so , were getting treated like unwanted thick peasants again. Whole things gone islington dinner set/club for the pros again .

    does either the times or telegraph want a ad hoc and eccentric interest columist that will piss unreservedly on the current westminster understanding of our country and enviromental matters , salary negotable can only do part time , write to useual address

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    not a machine says:

    claps

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    “My worry was that they (the bankers) were so arrogant and stupid that they might bring us all down”.

    Yep. The Hunt said it to my face

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    not a machine says:

    Before we have a rush of “well obvious innit” , as a green campaigner I admit and appolgise in that i was taken in by quite a bit of the now seemingly baseless science , but so were others smarter than me . That aside there are other very important enviromental issues to do with how we live on this rock travelling at 36000mph around a big nuclear fusion reaction . Even if not man made climate change on big global populatiosn still has problems . even in amercia in nevada they have litterally built so may houses they are running out water , In india they are struggling too but mainly due to agriculture . if you visit any of the major river deltas they are just uncontrolled pollutant outflows to sea (and our fish that we eat).
    these things are man made , are a threat to the enviroment and unlimately us

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    “My worry was that they (the bankers) were so arrogant and stupid that they might bring us all down”.

    Yep. The C-U-N-T said it to my face

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    not a machine says:

    Just searched for John redwoods web page and , its gone , whats goin on have leftys cyber minced us .

  245. 245
    Foo Cha o'Bit says:

    Her gravestone will read ‘Ding Dong, the witch is dead.’

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    A Payne (in the Beeboids) says:

    Surely one gets paid to read the Guardian ?

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    anonymous says:

    ……… and there’s nothing wrong with a corrupt tory minister trying to make sure we ‘get the il’ out of libya

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8736496/Libya-the-minister-the-Tory-donor-and-a-contract-to-supply-oil.html

    the corrupt elite will never learn and so it remains – do as i say not as i do

    fuck off the british government

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  249. 249
    Anonymous says:

    Unless you run a business and it can be heard by its err, free users!

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    mrjohn says:

    Funny how Guido is so focused on those out of office rather than those in. Does this mean the Tories are stumbling and fumbling ?

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    A dog says:

    But only a stick is brown and sticky.

  252. 252
    Shep says:

    Woof.

  253. 253
    Marmite says:

    Nell’s right ‘wake up’ and you are an inarticulate, p@ss brained Leiber troll.

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    Marmite says:

    Go to a Laeiber blog ars”ehole. The words are usually of one syllable, so you might be better represented there. Oh, and by the way, it is necessary to keep ‘harping on’ about the last Government, as it was they that caused most of the sh”t we’re in now. Hope you can understand the big words!

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    albacore says:

    There ain’t no Tories left to stumble and fumble around the Lib/Lab/Con garden party.
    “Mr Hughes hid in Dylan’s shoes, wearing his disguise”.

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    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    The banking crisis was the culmination of a long series of policy mistakes around the world including but not limited to Carter and Clinton encouraging banks to lend to low income borrowers, the Republicans and Clinton repealing Glass-Steagall, Clinton allowing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to buy CMBS, Gordon Brown and Allan Greenspan flooding the market with liquidity after the dot.com boom collapsed, Gordon Brown and Ed Balls fucking up the UK regulatory environment and Gordon Brown fiddling the inflation calculation in the UK to remove house price increases resulting in interest rates being about 2 percentage points below where they should have been for 10 years.

    All of this resulted in both credit conditions being too loose and excessive lending to people who were not creditworthy.

    Alongside all of this was the economic time bomb of the Euro and the inability of the UK and US in particular to control government spending.

    Brown was not responsible for many parts of the global issue but he was right at the centre of the UK’s disaster.

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    so I said, ah screw it says:

    See Darling is calling the nasty bankers names in the enevitable book these arrogant b,stards manage to get ghost written, I keep wondering all this name calling and who was in charge at the time mmm.

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    Gonk says:

    Unsustainable World population is one
    of those topics not yet possible to discuss.

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    The Plumber says:

    Crikey, where did you get that quote from?

    It was edited out of the published work.

    I think we now have an idea of where the leak is!

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    Call me Infidel says:

    I can’t listen to the smug half-wit. The discomfort caused boiling urine in my bladder forces me to change channels.

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    Snitch and Snatch says:

    Call me silly, but we just sold our place in Notting Hill for oodles more than we paid for it.

    The old model still works for us.

    Recession – What Recession!

  262. 262
    M says:

    Perhaps a petition for the BBC to find it’s own money

  263. 263
    Snitch and Snatch says:

    And because we are Non Dom, we pay no tax.

    Chortle

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    Corporal Gaddafi says:

    Just listened to Camoron on R4. What a complete twat but I’m glad of that because he is digging his own political grave and will definitely be a one term PM and a one term Tory government.

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    The BBC trust says:

    The BBC includes every political belief within the broad church all inclusive BBC. The BBC is proud to give an equal amount of airtime to the left, the centre left, the left of centre and the far left which makes up the overwhelming majority of acceptable political views, in fact 99.9% of all normal people hold dearly to these political views and principles. The remaining 0.1% of the population who hold anti social vicious and evil right wing views get the positive airtime this tiny minority deserves which is none at all, their ugly racist fascist prejudice upsets the wonderful multicultural paradise that the BBC is determined to promote. The BBC represents the consensus that only the left offers the prospect of a perfect multicultural workers paradise, a consensus that is overwhelmingly socialist in nature. The tiny minority of antisocial criminal vermin who insanely support right wing capitalism must be hunted down and exterminated without pity. The right wing filth must be made to suffer for their insane criminality, their views must be wiped from the face of the earth and the BBC will make this a reality.

    Comrade Constance Hardone

    DEATH TO THE CAPITALIST PIGS.

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    Desperate Dan says:

    I’m looking forward to Sir Fred Goodwin’s autobiography.

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    Anonymous says:

    And members of the Chosen community.

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    Corporal Gaddafi says:

    The BBC are impartial. And it is that which infuriates ring-wing, left-wing and fence-sitters. Every view is given an airing so there will always be those who are disappointed and complain that their particular view is not represented. Well done BBc and if you want to watch real rubbish try Sky – especially their ‘one story of the day’ news output.

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    M says:

    Reactionary views to socialists psychotic need to control Through hypocritical indoctrination . Extolling views they neither hold nor care about . Preoccupied with manipulating the truth to suit a history that never existed . The need to label society & then preach what parts to hate or not ,
    This pisses people off , hence the strength of feeling in the remarks

    I personally would like to see psychological investigation in to all the reasons WHY socialists need to control .
    I suspect a deep seated insecurity

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    Spartacus says:

    We dont want him back. Thanks.

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    Airey Belvoir says:

    I think there’s an echo on this site.

  272. 272
    Airey Belvoir says:

    That echo again!

  273. 273
    Anonymous says:

    North Britain to you!

  274. 274

    The Banking Crisis was in part caused by Deregulation Thatchers Corner shop economics LSE of Fu–wits with Reganomics and another Knacker Milton Friedman followers. Bliar loved his economics.
    The War on Terror / Drugs have destroyed the capitalist markets economies of the West that employ vast swath’s of individuals involved in none commerical activity. The Political Class have Destroyed the Market and the Economics of Capitalism by fighting WARS AND A TOTAL DISREGARD FOR THE RULE OF LAW.

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    The BBC is Biased, and that's a Fact says:

    ‘The BBC is impartial.’
    ‘Every view is given an airing.’
    ‘Sky is rubbish.’

    You are obviously from the Ministry of Truth and George Orwell would be proud of you.

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    The BBC is Biased, and that's a Fact says:

    Well, that is certainly what the ‘impartial’ BBC are doing their best to achieve. Let’s hope he has the cojones to show up this putrid nest of vipers for what it really is.

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    The BBC is Biased, and that's a Fact says:

    Monopolising the media: check. Suppressing the opposition by any and every means: check. Brainwashing the population with its own version of history: check. Propagandising its political agenda in the treacherous guise of a kindly teacher who knows what is best: check. Yes, today’s BBC obviously learned a lot from Goebbels.

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    Mark Wouters. says:

    Hello,
    When are these wankers in No 10 going to F–K O-F????????????????
    Civil servants are following me around watching me and my emails are gone through along with my phone calls and thery getting criminals and tv licensing to harass me ,these are real F—ing Righteing tossers,they want info from me to aid cameron and other tories, But hey they will not get me to help them ,they are NAZIS,and we deserve better .Elections are fixed and they Fix people up or Murder them because they Are Leftwingers.
    They murder and Psychologically manipulate and use all friends and family to get what they want,they Murdered Jf Kennedy.

  279. 279
    Mark Wouters. says:

    WELLL SAID the bbc are FASCISTS because theyre Govt thruogh and through,only just listen to radio 2 Vine show ,theyre pure Nazis.

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    the peepels poet says:

    The bbc must go, it must go now
    Shut it down, shut it down
    scrap that ol’ licence fee
    they don’t mean a thing to you or me

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    Wolfy Smith says:

    Thatcher’s fault :-)

    Good one! Who says the left have no sense of humour?

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    hammond says:

    keep your gay fantasies to yourself please ducky
    methinks thou dost protest too much

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    Fish says:

    dear pollytwaddle for ‘poison and malevolence’ read gordonbrown or bullyballs or damianmcbride or yourself , nobody has ever done it better than your labour crew…

    or if you cannot be bothered to do that, just take a look at yourself in the mirror


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