August 19th, 2011

Guardian Peer-Reviewed Climate Change “Science”

Were the killer aliens little Green Party men?


159 Comments

  1. 1
    Anonymous says:

    Billy, see how many times you can comment

  2. 2
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Have we now reached a point where everything is over hyped or spun, Like Labour saying “If you elect Tories they will eat your babies and the world will end” ?

    Is everything really life and death?

    • 10
      The real world might be a better option? says:

      If you, like me, rely on BBc and Sky, you’ll find that that is exactly what’s going on. Labour were right all along!

      • 41
        The BBC is Biased says:

        I see that Sky have reported that a 51 year-old police officer has been arrested for leaking information to the Guardian, however, the BBC are reporting that he has simply been arrested for leaking information. No mention of their mates at the Guardian being involved.

        • 80
          Tax'em till the pips squeek says:

          That would be what they call ‘balance’

          • Splooge says:

            da grauniad has jumped dat shark innit

          • Cameron is a joke says:

            A woman who spent a week in prison separated from her two young children after she handled a pair of shorts looted from Manchester city centre during the riots by her lodger has been freed on appeal.

            http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/19/riots-mother-looted-shorts-freed

          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            @Cameron is a joke

            you dont understand the law then?

            Judges can only go on current law, all rioters committed crime under the present law.

            Any changes to riot laws has not passed parliament and therefore not law.

          • Cameron is a joke says:

            Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says: August 19, 2011 at 5:30 pm

            This is what I was saying when Cameron was making a big scene, most of the looter will be out in days. Cameron will not change the law as he doesn’t believe in locking up criminals.

        • 84
          BBC Controller says:

          Please keep a sense of proportion about this.

          If the Blessed Guardian was in any way involved it would have been for fine and noble reasons.

          Now shut up, cut your foul emissions, and pay your telly tax or ET will get you.

          It’s all in the database – ET knows where you live

        • 97
          What the Public really think says:

          Obviously It would be wrong to discuss this particular case but in general if its an offence for cops to provide info to the press for cash ( which it is) then those paying for it are also guilty !

        • 123
          The unnofficial BBC spokesperson says:

          We are reporting the truth which is that there was a leak and somebody has been arrested.
          Reading anything else in to this simply shows your own bias and or paranoia.

          We accept luncheon vouchers and your first born as license payment.

          Remember – it’s all Thatcher’s fault.

    • 12
      Steve Miliband says:

      Is this your funny comment or holding comment? Can’t tell sometimes

    • 143
      Armingford says:

      Some Important Points of Clarification at http://paleblueblog.org/post/9110304050/some-important-points-of-clarification
      “So here’s the thing. This isn’t a “NASA report.” It’s not work funded by NASA, nor is it work supported by NASA in other ways. It was just a fun paper written by a few friends, one of whom happens to have a NASA affiliation….”

    • 157
      Broadmoorescapee says:

      Desperation is the mark of those losing the argument. They are now trying to appeal to the most gullible, least intelligent and weakest members of society: The mentally deranged.

  3. 3

    Mao boys vs Aliens

  4. 4
    AC1 says:

    Johan Hari wrote this surely?

  5. 5
    Bloated State says:

    A Nasa document, must have time on their hands after canning the space shuttle.

    Almost as absurd as the BBC’s ‘moral panic’ doctrine to defend rioting.

    • 16
      Bled White Taxpayer says:

      To be fair to NASA, the document is an attempt to categorise possible outcomes if aliens exist and if they come to earth. The scenario the Guardian pick out is described as “the most extreme”, so the absurdity is with the Grauniad for choosing it to push their stupid green agenda.

      I bet the Beeb pick up on it.

      • 43
        Southern Softy says:

        I bumped into an alien yesterday after he had completed a particularly pleasing crop circle design.
        We got chatting (he had perfect English) and he told me there are wind turbines throughout space and that we are doing the right thing.
        He also said it started in America.

      • 100
        News at ten says:

        We are considering it for our “and finally” bit.

    • 129
      The unnofficial BBC spokesperson says:

      You can shut your face as well.
      You’ll be telling us next that Gordon Brown didn’t save the World’s economy next.

      Remember – we set the agenda, we are the news… and you pay handsomely.

  6. 6
    AC1 says:

    Looney Keynsians!

    • 42
      The Phat Controller says:

      Great clip.

      Socialists love a fake global threat. So they can have a social global “solution”.

    • 47
      MrAngry61 says:

      There’s a big threat between spending anything/everything to survive as a nation state and spending to sort out a rocky economy.

      And as for defending the inefficiencies of Boston’s “Big Dig” infrastructure project on Keynesian grounds!

      Krugman is even less authoritative now IMO.

    • 56
      Former Nobel Prize Winner says:

      Krugman is tha avant garde of the aliens

      He has been spaced out for years…

    • 105
      lola says:

      I read somewhere that Krugman was drawn to economics by reading Asimov’s Foundation Trilogy. He decided that ‘psychohistory’ was a real science and set out to make it work on earth, now.

      Prat.

    • 118
      Bishop Desmond Morris says:

      He tugs his nose at the end – he knows its all bullshit.

  7. 9
    Anonymous says:

    in fairness, it is reporting a statement from Nasa

  8. 11
    Rat's arse says:

    A lot of people today are like pawn shops – they’ll take anything in. They don’t seem to have minds of their own, or intelligence isn’t what it was. It’s pathetic really!

    • 23
      John77 says:

      That’s unfair to pawn shops who are generally highly selective only accepting gold and diamonds

      • 31
        Rat's arse says:

        Not when my Dad was a kid they didn’t John 77. :)

        • 149
          John77 says:

          That’s one reason why most of them had closed down by 1997 and the number has gone up twentyfold since then. [That is *not* a joke - check with the National Association of Pawnbrokers]. Apart from one in the West end that accepts Aston Martins and Ferraris, nearly all the modern ones only lend on stuff like gold that they know they can sell if the borrower does not redeem the “pledge”

    • 52
      smoggie says:

      I’m nothing like a pawn shop.

      I’ve only got two humongous brass balls hanging sown.

  9. 13
    ANYBODY WITH ANY SHRED OF HUMAN DECENCY AND ANY TRACE OF COMMON SENSE says:

    ” Ian Sample ”

    Oh FFS, the Guardian isn’t real.

  10. 14
    Bill d'Sarse says:

    *Checks calendar*

    Nope. It’s not 1st April.

    Sigh. It truly is the silly season.

  11. 15
    bergen says:

    Presumably from the same edition of the Sunday Sport that found a Flying Fortress on the Moon.

    Or the terrible consequences of a Friday liquid lunch perhaps.

    • 104
      Anonymous says:

      Haas the pornographer Sullivan and his sidekick Karen Brady taken over the Guardian ?

  12. 17
    Doctor Who says:

    You’re on your own this time. Frankly, I’ve had enough. Byeee!

  13. 18
    Anonymous says:

    It’s a trap!

  14. 19
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Fuck it!

    Go to login to comment Guido, I am fucking sick to death of people nicking my fucking monkier, writing stuff that is untrue and writing fuckin crap (I can do that myself) .

    I used to think that by bowing down the socailists would win and i held my postion, But with the constant rip offs of my monkier is tipping the scales.

    I want a world of free speech, but i also want a world with respect and manners.

    Whoever is nicking monkier is a fucking lowlife C-unt who thinks of nothing but stealing from others.

  15. 20
    nell says:

    Well that’s about as sensible and balanced as the graudian gets isn’t it?

    Only pollytwaddle is sillier!

  16. 21
    John77 says:

    How many light years away is the nearest planet that could sustain life (not human life, just life)?
    How much has the temperature risen since the 1600s when there was skating on the Thames?
    How much did the Earth’s temperature rise between the last Ice Age and the Roman Occupation of Britain when grape were widespread in Britain and lions could live outdoors in Northern Italy in the winter?
    Is this called “the silly season” for a good reason?

    • 127
      The unnofficial BBC spokesperson says:

      The nearest planet that can sustain life is actually Broadcasting House.
      Granted, it does have a rarified atmosphere.

      All hail Capita!

    • 130
      Bored scientist waiting for a train says:

      Gliese 581 c is 20.7 light years (194 trillion km). The fastest manmade object (Apollo 10) travelled at 39,897 kmh when returning from the moon. That’s 0.000037 of the speed of light (more or less), so travelling at our speed, the aliens would need about 7.18 billion years to reach us. That would probably surprise them as the earth is only about 4.54 billion years old, so they wouldn’t have known about us before the set out.

      To reach us having identified global warming starting in 1970 (dubious contention – treat as assumption), they would need to travel at 99.999996% of the speed of light, which is pretty quick. It is difficult to conceive of any advanced life form surviving the g forces involved in acceleration and deceleration.

      • 154
        John Bellingham says:

        Why assume that an Interstellar craft would only travel at the speed of the slowest ever human extra-orbital mission? The Pioneer and Voyager probes of a generation ago were faster. Current technology, like VASIMIR, allows for velocities ten times greater than a moon mission, without speculative physics 10-15% of c is quite possible.
        Why assume that any alien race is viewing from a distance? Even our primitive species has probes orbiting Mars and the Moon and why assume that they would have to travel here in “person”. What about Bracewell or von Neumann probes?
        You sound like the “Scientists” who were convinced that no one could breath on a train that travelled over 30 mph or that women’s tits would explode if they ascended in a balloon.

  17. 25
    Barracoder says:

    Turns out it wasn’t even by NASA – the guys promoting this shit are merely “NASA-affiliated” now. Hope the bastards get de-affiliated soon.

  18. 26
    High Dudgeon says:

    If these aliens pick off Gordon Brown then they can save the inter-galactic economy before it’s too late.

    • 36
      AC1 says:

      He’s sold all the latinum.

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        Bella
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        Bella
        Bellorum
        Bellis
        Bellis

        If that is of any help?

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        • 108
          Romans go home says:

        • 115
          smoggie says:

          Third declension and the easiest. This one I could remember and so didn’t get thrashed by Father McSadist.

      • 146
        Anonymous says:

        Firty fousand Feathers, round a frushes froat

  19. 27

    The aliens are in government and destroying humanity already.

  20. 29
    Charlie Gilmour says:

    I am appealing guys !!!

    Paddy goes on a talent show claiming he can count as quick as lightning.
    The host of the show sits him down in front of a swarm of ants in a glass case.
    “You have 30 seconds to count these ants,” he says, “starting NOW.”
    “3,138,” says Paddy after one second.
    “Wow! That’s correct!” says the host. “How on earth did you do that?”
    “Easy,” says Paddy, “I counted the legs and divided by six.”

  21. 35
    Close Encounters of the Turd Kind says:

    You’re fucking kidding me. They’re actually using a hypothetical threat of aliens?!

  22. 37
    Displaced Brummie says:

    Tin foil hatters working for NASA!

  23. 38
    MrAngry61 says:

    “Green” aliens might object to the environmental damage humans have caused on Earth and wipe us out to save the planet. “These scenarios give us reason to limit our growth and reduce our impact on global ecosystems. It would be particularly important for us to limit our emissions of greenhouse gases, since atmospheric composition can be observed from other planets,” the authors write.

    Utter shit like this is why I hate the Graun.

    Incidentally, I forwarded the quote above to a Graun reader this morning as an example of the AGW bias of the Guardian – no riposte so far!

    • 86
      AC1 says:

      It’s more projection.

      The “aliens” are acting out our green “crusaders” revenge fantasies.

      They probably need to be stopped before melonism does kill as many it’s non-green veneered version did.

      • 137
        Article 38 says:

        Definitely. Read the comments if you want to be truly horrified. Lots of fantasies about Capitalists, Tea Partyists, car drivers, etc. being ‘taken away’ by the aliens and leaving the planet for right-thinking left-green folk.

        “No man, no problem”, as someone once said.

    • 144
      MrAngry61 says:

      FWIW, more facts.

      1) The ‘NASA’ author is a ‘lowly post doc’, whose work has nothing to do with the subject of the paper, which he wrote for fun. The paper’s nothing to do with NASA.

      2) The paper NOWHERE mentions ‘green’ aliens who’ll wipe us out for environmental crimes, that’s a fabrication.

      3) The authors said that greenhouse emissions could be detected by a HOSTILE alien, not that they should be reduced to avoid offending a ‘green’ alien. That’s a misrepresentation.

      4) The paper was published in April 2011, but only exploded on the web after the Guardian wrote about it and Drudge linked to it.

  24. 39
    Denzil's Wholesalers says:

    Yeah, blud, me has aliens if you want dem. Got some last week. I got whatever you need. TVs, stereos, trainers, carpets, sofas, aliens. I has got it all, ya get me, blud. Safe safe.

    • 107
      Wagwaan wi ya mon? says:

      Kill mi ded ya half eediat. Why can ya no talk right mon? Dat no how a Jamdown Trenchtown yardie bwoy talk man. Mi say ya learn talk propa afor ya com eah a talk wi ya haadback, or mi giya batty lickul slap!

  25. 39
    genghiz the kahn says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-14596815

    I wonder which paper this could be…

    • 103
      Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

      Yes the c u n t z at the BBC are playing this down. The bitch from the Guardian denied they were getting information off the Police only the other week.

  26. 45
    What a plonker. says:

    Global warming is the biggest left wing con of the last 20 years .

    • 93
      Tax'em till the pips squeek says:

      Its up there, but there are still plenty of other contenders: Brown’s pensions theft strikes me as a significant one for all those affected, which I think is most of us. The idea that CCTV would prevent major outbreaks of crime is also looking fairly worn out too. Or what about the war in Iraq…

  27. 50
    The Dirty Rat says:

    I keep thinking of that woman with the sausage in her mouth!

    • 131
      MrAngry61 says:

      There were pictures on the US news sites of most of the presidential contenders eating similar things (though smaller than Bachmann’s) at some state fair.. Apparently they’re called “corn dogs”.

  28. 51
    Jack says:

    It is more likely that socialism will destroy humanity than “aliens”

    But I would add to the aliens who listen to me

    Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater

    There are still some believers left here….

  29. 53
    Marx says:

    This is what happens when you alienation.

  30. 54
    Aliens says:

    Everyone relax. If aliens invade earth, all that’ll happen is they’ll give us anal probes.

    • 126
      The Archdeviant says:

      I’m into BDSM arseplay me… these aliens… are they sexy aliens? If so, is there any way that I can signal to them telling them to come here quicker?

  31. 58
    Former Nobel Prize Winner says:

    Your numbers and connections all f”ooked up again Guido

    Are the aliens destroying your site ?

  32. 61
    Oh for gawds sake... says:

    Without wasting too much energy considering this drivel, surely it’s pretty safe to say any tree-hugging greenie civilisation that relies of windmills, biofuel and other eco-bollocks ISN’T gonna develop interstellar travel. Let alone come here and rough us up.

  33. 64
    Former Nobel Prize Winner Gore says:

    I am Nobel Prize Winner Albert H Gore, world renowned scientists and liar

    I only have two mansions and a few private jets and huge investments in Ponzi state supported environmental schemes and manipulations…

    I live on air and love like my friend the Grinning Ape Blair and like those in the 1960s who were still wet behind the ears (but not as Madoff as us!)

    • 89
      Anonymous says:

      Providing the wording *Gathering Nuts in Epping forest and* Global warming* you can have your research funding. M. Thatcher Mrs( must be Nuclear dear boy)

    • 134
      MrAngry61 says:

      You’ve got awfully fat on N2/O2 Al – as if you were William Shatner after he ate another Shatner

  34. 70
    Johann Hari says:

    My exclusive interview with aliens is coming soon.

  35. 72
    Red Lorry says:

    Metropolitan police officer arrested for leaking to the Guardian.

    Everyone’s covering it, apart from the BBC. Their news story doesn’t mention the Guardian.

    They really not even trying to hide their prejudice any more are they?

  36. 78
  37. 88
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    I thought you didnt like us talking about lizard people Guido?

  38. 91
    Al Gore 'The Orrible truth' says:

    SHhhhh don’t tell anyone but this AGW thing is actually a load of bollocks.

  39. 92
    Ol' Blue Eyes says:

    Scientists who have spent years studying the Keanu Reeves remake of The Day The Earth Stood Still and the Nicole Kidman remake of Invasion Of The Body Snatchers have come to the conclusion that aliens might destroy us because our abuse of the environment.

    However other scientists believe that aliens are more likely to destroy us so they can steal our planet’s resources, citing Signs and Independence Day as their evidence. Dr Emmerich of the Institute for Alien Invasion Studies said we would be best advised to move close to water as the aliens will probably be harmed by it.

    • 119
      Chief Economist at the Bank of Greece says:

      Modetrn “scientists” have examined the Keynesian School of Economics

      They have concluded that what Keynes really meant, contrary to everything he said and wrote

      Is that we should overwhelm ourselelves with government debt to get out of the hole of government spending

      This a stupendous discovery…worthy of Lord Skidelski…..we will thereby save the plant earth…

      • 121
        Chief Economist at the Bank of China says:

        Are you all on the white stuff that you imperialist rascals tried to impose on us 150 years ago ?

        We own you now and Marx and Keynes and your other western economists are worthless now

        We work

        We produce

        We make money

        And we win…

  40. 98
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Why is the BBC not saying that the plod arrested has been arrested for leaking information to the Guardian?

    Sky, the Daily Mail etc are all reporting it?

    I hope the Guardian offices are now searched, they’ve been interfering with the Police investigation from day 1.

    Do the fucking BBC at the same time please.

    • 128
      The unnofficial BBC spokesperson says:

      We know where you live – remember when you bought your telly?
      We will need to check our records – soon.

      KNOCK – KNOCK!

  41. 99
    nell says:

    What’s with the new numbering system neo-Guido is it to confuse any aliens watching the blog?

    • 110
      Guido's confessor says:

      Nell

      Guido’s Assistant Chief under bottle washing Secretary of State in the new Fawkes Empire (yes even Irishmen can be imperialist running dogs)

      Otherwie known as Running capitialist Dog Tory Bear, who we all love from time to time

      Has been to the boozer and pressed the wrong button…

  42. 101
    NZ pioneer says:

    Hello Guido from far

    I am a nice Kiwi…(not the eatable type except by my womenfolk)

    My balls are literally freezing here now…

    Never been so fucking cold here for two generations…

    Can you tell the “earth warming” climate change amateurs to to lay off a bit…

    I have to shag my hareeeeeem like Prezza you know, equality and all that…

    It is the right thing to do espially since you in Europe cannot even reproduce yourselves

    • 114
      Five Jags and half a shag (becaue of age) Prezza says:

      Fucking technology

      But I am Noble Lord now

      So the working class can kiss my ass as they do in voluminous amounts (or what’s left of them)

  43. 102
    Popeye says:

    If we didn’t have The Guardian, we would have to invent them.

  44. 109
    Dont Panic !!! says:

    “People of Earth, your attention, please. This is Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz of the Galactic Hyperspace Planning Council. As you will no doubt be aware, the plans for development of the outlying regions of the Galaxy require the building of a hyperspatial express route through your star system. And regrettably, your planet is one of those scheduled for demolition. The process will take slightly less than two of your Earth minutes. Thank you.”

  45. 111
    mad scientist says:

    Global Warming is caused by cooking the books

  46. 113
    Note To Guardian Readers and other loonies....it's ALL in the mind !!! says:

    Like Global Warming…. Aliens don’t exist…so it ain’t gonna happen

    • 153
      Not really a dalek says:

      Not so according to the ?History Channel (I think it them) who have a series entitled Ancient Aliens in which they postulate that aliens were here helping ancient civilisations to build their amazing monuments eg the Incas, the pyramids, Stonehenge etc. They reckon that “angels” and other ET-like creatures as portrayed in ancient carvings were actually space creatures and quote in evidence that today engineers are still unable to replicate the engineering involved which needed the use of higher mathematics, and some form of equipment which we do not have, in the scheme.

      You pays your money and takes your choice… But being a cynic on all this, I merely wonder, if they were so clever, why did they not leave behind the secrets of eg electricity for the folk of those times.

  47. 133
    Michele Bachman says:

    I love sausage

  48. 135
    Anonymous says:

    Hey, even though this is continuing we still have to look up to our superiors because they know what’s best for us

  49. 147
    Anonymous says:

    We’re all Groomed

  50. 158
    nutter says:

    watch this space

  51. 159
    nutter says:

    UFO



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