July 19th, 2011

About That “Little Local Difficulty”

It’s not just the left that are putting the squeeze on Cameron. Yesterday Guido noted the dearth of Tory MPs coming out to support the PM, and though Nick Boles was put on Newsnight, he didn’t exactly cover himself in glory by describing the government’s current problems as a “little local difficulty”, though he did give Harman as good as he got. This morning ConservativeHome launched a tirade against the Tory leadership, slamming their handling of the crisis:

“The Downing Street team isn’t hanging together to push the Prime Minister’s case.  And they don’t hang together, they’re in danger of hanging separately.”

The Telegraph’s leader this morning said Cameron “has not been frank with the public”. Though there is no love lost between the Cameroons and the paper, their allegation has not gone down well. It’s ironic that the PM  has had to cut short his trip to Nigeria, of all places, to come back and fight corruption allegations back home. Tories are openly questioning whether jetting off was the wisest move in the first place. It’s hard to find anyone enamoured at Craig Oliver’s attempts to put out the flames licking the No.10 door and suggestions are floating around that he is a little out of his depth in the current crisis. It is so bad that some of his former detractors are joking that they wish Andy Coulson was back. Oh wait…

Given the fact heads have rolled in the media and the police already, there is a growing hunger to see a political scalp. Cameron’s Chief of Staff Ed “I didn’t tell the boss” Llewellyn is looking increasingly vulnerable, but surely Steve Hilton’s reputation is forever tarnished if he didn’t see the need to tell Cameron directly what he had heard about Coulson. As he claims. Knowledge is power in politics, and thus it seems a little odd that these two were so muted…


187 Comments

  1. 1
    The Umpire is always right! says:

    So we have the looney left trying to shut down the free press and No 10 are bitching about something that happened a while ago FFS

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    • 3
      Lemuel says:

      I’m the only looney left.

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      • 27
        Ed Milipede says:

        No you’re not. I’m ath inthane ath anyone.

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        My Lord PrizeClot of Hullbebuggered says:

        Knowledge power is eh? Well the case is that if that is the case then I’m buggered about it cos I have power but knowledge none that is I ain’t no A levels an’ look where I got!

        Phwooaarrr look at that walking darn th’road!!

        Anyone got a pie ….. chips . .. anything ….. ?

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    • 4
      Rebekah Brooks says:

      I am writing to my MP.

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      • 11
        Iloathlefties says:

        Why aren’t we talking about the financial crisis and our stupid policy of paying £13.5 billion net to the EU!! A 74% rise in just one year! Or our foreign aid budget rising to £11.5 billion whilst our pensioners won’t be able to heat their homes because Huhn is secretly adding 20% to our fuel bills to build …….windmills that don’t work.

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        • 31
          Tax Payer says:

          Er, that is exactly why we are obsessing about tittle-tattle.

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        • 38
          Anonymous says:

          Remind me how many hundreds of millions we’re wasting on Dave’s vanity war in Libya. Or how many hundreds of billions your pals in the City were bailed out with.

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        • 45
          Mr Gusset says:

          Because that doesn’t fit with the BBC.

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          • slug balancer says:

            I note from Sir Paul Stephenson’s speech that the BBC have been absolutely wrong to propagate the inference from his resignation speech that he was making an oblique criticism of Cameron for hiring Coulson.

            I repeat: THE BBC IS A DISGRACE.

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        • 187
          Mrs Havissham says:

          Because our politicos do not talk about things that matter. They haven’t done so for years. Didn’t talk about immigration, didn’t talk about lack of affordable housing, didn’t talk about EU corruption, didn’t talk about manufacturing jobs going to China, or UK energy companies being foreign owned, and on and on. In fairness I should add that they didn’t talk about their own pensions either (until forced), or, so far as I am aware, thier own pensions.

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      • 40
        Jeremy Clarkson says:

        So am I

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    • 15
      Where have all the Tories gone? says:

      Blimey. Sky have managed to find a Tory MP who’s prepared to come on the Telly and defend Dave. Some chap called Charlie Elphick. All morning it has been lefty after lefty except for a brief quote from Nick sticking up for Dave.

      Where are the Tory Big Wigs in Dave’s hour of need?

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      • 25
        Bartholomew, George Osborne's Teddy says:

        I have said it before – my man is too busy shredding to waste time with the media.

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      • 29
        The Bells says:

        Could it be that Dave has not sacked Hilton because Hilton DID warn Dave about what was being said about Andy? Or even worser, that there was no need to warn Dave, as Dave already knew what was being said and he was arrogantly ignoring all the warning bells?

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        • 47
          Ed Milipede says:

          Hilton: Prime Minister, I feel I ought to warn you about Coulson.

          Dave: Fuck off, I’m busy hacking Jordan’s phone.

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      • 42
        Shaggy says:

        Planning something else.

        They were all huddled in a corner talking, and when dave turned up they appeared to be talking about where they went on holiday last year. Like a bunch of hairdressers, but with a surprised expression on their faces.

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      • 101
        The voice of unreason says:

        The big wigs have realised that they may now get to elect a tory to the leadership position.

        As much as I detest the outpourings of faux-outrage from the lefties, I equally detest everything that Cameron is doing in the name of conservatism. He’s one scalp I’m happy to see claimed!

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      • 107
        Archer Karcher says:

        Charlie Elphick?

        The same Charlie Elphick who voted in favour of increasing our IMF contributions by £10 billion for the Greeks? Money that we will never see again. That Charlie Elphick?
        Dave’s friends have some awfully rotten ideas about squandering other peoples money, I must say.

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      • 181
        MacGuffin says:

        Preparing their leadership campaigns, of course. Why on earth would they want to be helping out Mr Potato Head?

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    • 20
      Colin the Meek says:

      Some on the right ought to be careful what they wish for.

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      • 26
        Bartholomew, George Osborne's Teddy says:

        What do the rights fantasies about latex and spanking have to do with the current situation?

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    • 113
      Oil Slick Watch says:

      It’s Slimy Vaz time.

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  2. 2
    Lard Presclott of Bulimia, Bog Seats, Beams,Bellies,Banjos,Punches, Croquet, Pies, Jags 'n' Shags says:

    Popcorn sales at record levels !!

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  3. 5
    Span Ows says:

    Everyone is underestimating cameron…I hope!

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  4. 6
    The Umpire is always right! says:

    Hey Dave, over here, i can give some advice that wont cost the Taxpayer any money.

    1: Get rid of all your advisors.

    2: Grow some fuckin backbone.

    3: Have a word in Baroness Thatchers ears about telling the EU to fuck off.

    4: Work out if you are a Tory or a socailist.

    when you answer the questions, let us know.

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    • 23
      Shaggy says:

      By the definitions of this site on what counts as “socialist”, most tories are socialists.

      it wasn’t me. that said that.

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      • 33
        Bartholomew, George Osborne's Teddy says:

        And judging by Kinnochio most socialists are tories.

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      • 120
        Archer Karcher says:

        Apparently 274 of them ARE socialists. They certainly agree that hosing other peoples money down the drain ala McBrownstain, is somehow the best way of ‘solving’ a debt problem.
        Now if that is not the epitome of deluded socialist fucktardedness, what is?

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    • 28
      codswallop says:

      Double A plus Umpire

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    • 37
      Ah! Monika says:

      The Umpire strikes back

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    • 51
      Mr Gusset says:

      And tell the Green camp to go fuck themselves, but wear organic comdoms.

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    • 105
      Who, me? says:

      Furthermore, you keep telling us that you hate ‘big government': so what is the EU if it isn’t big, massive, bloated, self-serving government?

      Just asking, Dave. Please explain the difference; and please explain the benefits.

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    • 135
      Admiral Leach says:

      No chance of Dave Light Weight doing ANY of this, he’s a PR merchant, nothing more, he thinks leadership is how well you can spin the news agenda, but things aren’t looking too good at the moment so he has no idea what to do.

      Don’t worry his advisors will come up with something maybe a coalition with Labour at least then we can see the whole lot Scrim Shankers under one heading.

      What an absolute shower!

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      • 182
        MacGuffin says:

        Exactly. Mr Potato Head knows how to PR every issue except the PR itself.

        Mr Potato Head is toast. The whole country knows it. More importantly, the Tories know it.

        The Grey Suits are marching.

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  5. 7
    Fred says:

    On point duty eh?

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  6. 8
    The Umpire is always right! says:

    Oh i forgot one

    5: Dont get caught with a didlo up your bum.

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  7. 9
    cameron spreading his values in nigeria says:

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  8. 10
    Steve Miliband says:

    Sometimes less is more.

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  9. 13
    Ed P says:

    It’s all reminiscent of when Gordon didn’t know what the chap sitting at the next desk to him knew…

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  10. 14
    Moley. says:

    Cameron is paying the price for selling the Conservative Party down the river.

    By his insistence on maintaining Foreign Aid.

    By his failure to put his words on Europe into action.

    By his failure to understand that the deficit reduction programme is now totally inadequate for the Country’s needs.

    This is what happens when you use whips to ram through wrong and unpopular policies.

    Loyalty is a two edged sword.

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    • 71
      Backwoodsman says:

      And surrounding himself with ‘advisors’ like hilton, from the same cesspool that labour got theirs from. Had he tried a propper Tory, with roots outside of Islington, he wouldn’t be in this mess.

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    • 72
      Strategist says:

      True. But the more interesting question is, what is he going to do about it?

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      • 137
        Archer Karcher says:

        Sack his bubble living advisors, make a statement about how ‘we can’t go on like this and lessons have been learned’ then re-hire more advisors from within the bubble and re-launch with new, new slogans?

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  11. 16
    Steve Miliband says:

    Quick there’s a slot on C Beebies that Alistair Campbell, c*nt in chief, hasn’t been on yet

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  12. 17
    Shaggy says:

    It was me.

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  13. 18
    Jimmy says:

    Come on Guido, they’re counting on you.

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  14. 19
    KINNOCKIO says:

    Despite all my frothing at the mouth, Lard Prescott’s fulminating on the media, gormless Gordon’s vile diatribe in a rare appearance in the HoC and Red Ed’s wibbling impersonation of the Messiah, the latest opinion polls show we’ve advanced NOWHERE .

    Perhaps I have got my party back….

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  15. 21
    Geoffrey G Brooking says:

    Come along Neo Guido.

    If Cameron didn’t go trade deals would be on the line.

    He has cut short the visit and is addressing The House tomorrow.

    Nick Boles did a bloody good job last night and deserves credit for it.

    Tory MPs need to realise that without DC some of them might not even be in a job.

    Get behind Dave. We aren’t in the lead in the polls for nothing.

    And as for the rest – start putting policy before personality because that is what matters.

    Thank you.

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      Tax Payer says:

      Boles did well last night – against a biased presenter and of course a mendacious Harman.

      He nearly lost it a couple of times but overall did very well.

      I just don’t understand why more people aren’t simply replying “Blair, Murdoch, Australia, Brown, Wade, Slumber Party, Wedding Invitation” to every question.

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    • 53
      Anonymous says:

      you sound like a cross between Geoffrey Boycott and Trevor Brooking – all talk and er all talk

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      Ah! Monika says:

      If it wasn’t for the fact that Ed had already purloined the name he would have been Nicknamed ( sic) Nick Balls this morning. Can’t see Mrs Dromedary taking him on again.

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      MrAngry61 says:

      They’re not interested in Dave – he could have just sent a cheque (made out to ‘Cash’) in his place…

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  16. 22
    The Umpire is always right! says:

    Has the HuffPo got links with Media Matters?

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    albacore says:

    Lord, talk about a One-Hit Wonder.
    After ascending to the throne of the Tory arm of theLib/Lab/Con axis, has he done anything more useful than whistling Dixie?

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  18. 30
    Sophie says:

    Rusty Dave has spent so long trying to appeal to the left that he now seen as one of them.

    The left invariably despise him though because he is Tory.

    The right hate him because he is a Heathite Tory – – not a real Tory.

    So he is on his own.

    He should have been true to tried & tested Tory principles:

    * Small state

    * Low taxes

    Istead he has fallen over backwards to carry on with Gordon Browns disastrous fiscal policies of tax, spend, borrow & print.

    He is a slave to the EU & cares not a jot that his own are suffering in the UK – DFID is an insult to all British taxpayers & the more he digs his heels in, the deeper in the s__t he gets.

    The post Dave era approaches – & s a Conservative I welcome that.

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  19. 32

    Perhaps a lot of people are worried about what else is in the “worse to come”. If Murdoch and friends decide to take people with them it will be those currently with something to lose that suffer most. You can’t lose power when you’re out of office. Showing Blair had a dodgy relationship with NI isn’t going to change much for him. Showing anything “dodgy” about Dave will have an impact, he has something to lose.

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    • 83
      Fiddling around pointlessly whilst Rome burns says:

      “Perhaps a lot of people are worried about what else is in the “worse to come”. ”

      Whilst all our political classes are running around like headless chickens and the BBC is in full gloat….How’s about the approaching financial tsunamai of eurodebt crisis and US default… and UK economy going into double-dip as a result…will that do ???

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  20. 41
    Bored Stiff says:

    Oh My God, I am so bored with journalists just talking to each other, in the Westminster Village. I want Cameron to go to Africa and help our businesses export goods to get us out of 10 years of New Labour SHIT!!

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    YorkshireLad says:

    I think the raging hordes that is the public will want more than the scalp of a mere functionary from the back room irrespective of seniority. It goes further than that now. Let’s not forget that the loons that inhabit the Labour Party are not taint free either!

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    • 165
      Mother Brown says:

      Yep, let’s have it all out in the open – it’s our only chance of cleansing the Augean Stables. All the dirt of the past few decades needs exposing so we can see the full extent of the conspiracy between the political class, the media and the police to screw the public and feather their own nests.

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  22. 46
    Desperate Dan says:

    Cameron should have stayed in Africa and concentrated on drumming up business. Coming home to satisfy the shrill expectations from the BBC and Ed Miliband instead of getting contracts and encouraging UK exports was not the right decision.
    I’m glad Tory MPs are keeping a sense of proportion and not joining in the embarrassing displays of hysteria we’ve seen from Miliband, Bryant, Watson, Peston, Prescott and all the other rentaprats of the Left.

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    • 58
      Anonymous says:

      admire the wit Dan

      but aren’t you making several rather large assumptions here?

      like, the tories know what the fuck to do??

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    • 65
      albacore says:

      Ho Ho, DD.
      He actually went there to tell us all what a very wonderful brainwave foreign aid is.
      Very prudent of him to to try that from a few thousand miles away.

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      • 85
        Desperate Dan says:

        BBC : ” “Rude” – with a few expletives thrown in – was the frustrated judgement of one of the 25 British business leaders accompanying David Cameron on his trip, after one of the travelling journalists attempted to ask the prime minister yet another question about the hacking scandal back home.”

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          albacore says:

          There are not enough expletives in Roget’s Thesaurus to encompass the villainy perpetrated against the British nations by our own Parliaments.

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  23. 49
    Steve Miliband says:

    Meanwhile outside of the BBC/Guardian bubble, most people don’t give a fuck

    Others are concerned about the looming Euro crisis.

    Still as long as Murdoch cant take over Sky all will be well in BBC land

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    • 84
      Bongo says:

      +1

      This bollocks is all media village froth.
      Millions of people are starving in Africa and the euro is going tits-up.
      Never mind, today’s news is all about someone’s phone voicemail
      being hacked seven years ago.

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        Raving Loon says:

        It’s all bread and circuses. Keep the people distracted while you rob them blind. It’s worked for centuries so why change now?

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  24. 59

    We’re all on holiday! I’m not jetting back just to say a few words on Newsround.

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  25. 60
    Eamonn U Ensis says:

    The Leadership of the Conservative Party is looking like a bunch of amateurs clearly out of their depth…ignoring the fact that anybody with an IQ of 34 could have told Cameron that hiring Coulson(whether he gave assurances signed in blood and sworn on the bible before a High Court Judge)was an accident waiting to happen.Unfortunately it’s not the first of “Dave”‘s questionable judgement calls from Huskies in the Artic to allowing Clegg anywhere near the PM debates(which you could argue cost him an overall majority) to giving billions of foreign aid which the country can ill afford when we’re cutting public services and against the vast majority of the wishes of the electorate….the truth is that all this “second chance crap has damaged “Dave” and he should thnak his lucky stars that Labour is not led by a charismatic leader.Cameron will survive(just) but he is..as the saying goes he is in the last-chance saloon and needs to relaise that being a good-all round egg and going to Eton doesn’t mean he’s any good at the detail. The fact is that “Dave” certainly has made questionable judgment calls but he’s also been let down badly by his immediate lieutenants in the Tory Party…Osborne & Hague…who should be covering his back..as Mrs T famously said “Everyone needs a Willie !” and unfortunately Cameron has no-one of either Whitelaw or Tebbit’s character to act as his back-coverer and enforcer and as for Warsi ? Where the hell is SHE ??? She should be over this like flies on horseshit as should Osborne and Hague robustly defending the government position and attacking Labour’s hypocrisy…..at this rate they’ll all be out by Xmas and “Dave” will have plenty spare time to have jolly times with his mates in Chipping Norton…..

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    • 88

      A good piece but except on the debates, its a myth it cost Dave anything. He did his usual, poor , mediocre, excellent across the three. Clegg did brilliant, good, mediocre. Brown did poor, badly & worse.
      Clegg picked up media attention and the pledges of students, who didn’t actually vote for him, as the Lib dems LOST seats. It was impossible for Cameron to not have a debate having spent his entire time in opposition calling for them, as has every opposition leader. The big surprise was Brown agreeing to them.

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    • 111
      bergen says:

      All of which suggests that if Dave has to go (still unlikely) the new PM will be Nick Clegg who will be like Lloyd George between 1918 and 1922-the Liberal PM of a coalition overwhelmingly Tory.No Tory seems up to it.

      Even a few days ago I would never have thought it at all possible but it may be the least worst result for both Libs and Tories to live with if disaster were to occur.But like 1918-1922 it would all one day end in tears if it happens.

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    • 185
      MacGuffin says:

      Osborne and Hague are assembling their leadership campaigns, you fool.

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    The Umpire is always right! says:

    Has it got the word P_E_A in?

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  27. 62
    Cash for honours revisited says:

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  28. 64
    Desperate Dan says:

    During this committee grilling this afternoon, I expect the Murdochs to be asked to put contacts with David Cameron in context by telling us about the the number and frequency of their contacts with previous Prime Ministers.

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  29. 66
    Ed Milliband-Aid says:

    If I keep mentioning Milly Dowler then my poll rating will rise. Perhaps I should change my name to Millyband ?

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    • 110
      Tom Baldwin's Liebour Ajax supplier says:

      Yep…but it didnt…his poll rating is slumping…just like a night on the coke with Baldwin!

      And not the cola variety!

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    • 116
      Hobo with a Shotgun says:

      Are you suggesting Millie Dowler’s phone was hacked by the News of the Screws? Be very, very careful.

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    Sir William Waad says:

    I expect some senior Tories are miffed that Cameron has successively failed to support Caroline Spelman, Andrew Lansley and, most recently, Philip Hammond when they put forward policies that must have been agreed in Cabinet, but did not play well with the media or focus groups. Liam Fox has been able to hold his own to an extent, but only by being brutal.

    No doubt they also resented being given orders by a sleazeball from the Screws.

    If it’s all to be the dave ‘n’ George Show – and Coulson was dave’s personal choice – they may feel that dave ‘n’ George can sort it out themselves.

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    • 89
      Eamonn U Ensis says:

      If they think that…and that they and the Tory Party can ride it out unscathed and be still in power at the end of it if “Dave” falls …..then they’re more delusional than Brown was/is……………

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      Bile says:

      There’s a link top right (Yah! Boo Sucks!) which could have been written about the moronic red-team blue-team mentality that you so ably demonstrate.

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    • 114
      MrAngry61 says:

      They won’t care – the cheques cleared long ago.

      And if actually killing someone isn’t grounds for expulsion from the Lords (viz Ahmed), routine corruption doesn’t count.

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    Postal Vote says:

    Conservatives should start a disciplined fight-back, consisting of small steps of which each and probably the sum will attract less attention than what is helping labour at the moment. Elements of the strategy that can be considered are:

    -Labour seem to want to regulate the press so much that free speech will be restricted. They don’t want a free press, look at Kinnock’s comments today.

    -Media ownership limits are sensible but cross platform ownership should not be prohibited. Cross platform ownership is not a bad thing if you can only own a max of, say, one-third of each type of platform. Practically labour seem to hark back to 20th century since platforms are converging.

    -Miliband always very cleverly excludes beeb from TV landscape as he talks of Sky’s dominance in pay-tv market. This is cheeky, even if beeb were impartial.

    -Beeb is not impartial, it will always be biased towards politicians that want to grant it the biggest license fee settlement, and it is also biased when it reports about topics such as pensions (beeb’s are gold-plated) or public sector productivity/costs (beeb is overstaffed).

    -Conservatives should start preparing a law that forces government to spread its advertising budget among media platforms, including public sector job adverts, to prevent the covert purchase of partisan reporting with taxpayers’ money.

    -Conservatives should conduct a count of adverts and square inches of public sector adverts in Guardian over the period 1997-2010, to illustrate how labour effectively bought the Guardian’s loyalty (beeb sends 75% of its job adverts in papers to beeb; it is not just the number of adverts that are placed which is important, but it is square inches in papers because that is where the big money is).

    -Miliband has hired a News International alumnus

    -Miliband had a short romance with a journalist in the News International stable.

    -Blair let Murdoch know that Iraq war had started before parliament was aware of it.

    Ok, non of the above will grab the headlights in the way the departure of Brooks did, but it will at least show up labour, incl Mili, that they are not whiter than white (ha, something half funny at the end of this way too serious post).

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      Postal Vote says:

      somewhere it should read: beeb sends 75% of adverts to Guardian

      And surprise surprise, guardian says nothing needs to be done about public sector pensions

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    • 122
      MrAngry61 says:

      You might as well print that post & nail it to the front door of Labour HQ & BBC White City, for all the good that it will do.

      The Tories won’t act, the rest of the MSM don’t care. RedEd can shout “Coulson! NI! The Tories have a case to answer!” until the next election & no-one will ever contradict him.

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    Moley. says:

    Nigel Farage wants the (Yates) Cash for Honours investigation re-opened. ( From Seen elsewhere).

    http://www.publicserviceeurope.com/article/629/should-uk-cash-for-honours-case-be-reopened

    Unfortunately having an upper House based on a corrupt selection process means that their Lordships will of course block any such enquiry

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  34. 79
    Penfold says:

    Would be rather nice to have a proper Tory as leader of the Tory Party.

    Just shows that clinging to the centre ground doesn’t make you impervious the slings and arrows of detractors.

    Now, when Baldwin’s efforts in blowing Kelly’s cover and his eventual suicide are revealed then Red Ed will feel the heat and the part of then can compare notes.

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  35. 80
    Biffo says:

    Where is loud mouthed bully Balls ? Why is is so silent on these sideline issues ?

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    • 87
      Shaggy says:

      “when the shit hits the fan, keep your mouth shut”

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    • 97
      Postal Vote says:

      Balls can forget about the labour leadership while Mili is surfing his big wave.

      Labour will not have another leader before the next general election. Mili should thank Rupert now, rather than continue to blast him.

      And Balls should play by Mili’s rules because in his current constituency he can only get re-elected with the help of labour’s second-to-none postal voting skills. Balls won by a margin of 900 votes while there 10,000 votes of the post-it variety.

      One of the big unreported stories of last elections is that Balls most likely would have experienced a Portillo moment if postal voting procedures had been cleaned up.

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    • 104
      SphereWatch says:

      He’s busy plotting something. Has been to a number of meetings recently around the country, but you won’t find any records of what he has been saying.

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  36. 91
    It's a funny old World says:

    Makes you smile….the Tory party waited 13 years to regain power and they seem intent on throwing it all away after just over a year in power just for personal pique…..

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    The Umpire is always right! says:

    Election cycles are like a 5-day test match, Labour are playing 20/20.

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    Jess The Dog says:

    Load of tosh about Coulson. Cameron knew, Hilton knew, Llewellyn knew, Balls knew, Miliband knew, Brown knew, Baldwin knew, Campbell knew, McBride knew, Mandelson knew, Blair knew and so on. Of course they all knew, just as Blair knew exactly how wild and vicious Campbell was, culminating in the execution-by-media of Dr David Kelly.

    It’s Westminster village stuff. Everyone knew everything, in what was a media arms race going back – in it’s current phase – to the mid 1990s when Labour seriously started courting News International in preference to the Mirror, and before then when the Tories could do little wrong in NI’s eyes until they started flirting with Europe. It’s a ticking pass-the-parcel bomb that’s gone off in Cameron’s hands.

    If Cameron goes (unlikely) then the Tories will carry the can and the politico-media circus will pitch the big top somewhere down the road, with Labour jumping through the media hoops and thinking they are cracking the whip.

    The can of worms needs fully opened and upturned. I’m hopeful that Rupert Murdoch may see fit to do so this afternoon, especially after Brown’s self-serving rant. Cameron is a relative newcomer by comparison to Blair and Campbell. The only one with clean-ish hands is Ed Miliband…which is why he has Tom Baldwin, to do the future dirty work.

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    Steve Miliband says:

    The DCMS will be a non event with a few little tit bits.

    Ed Militit will appear on TV regularly, C*nt in Chief Campbell will be on every news channel. The Guardian/BBC will call it a victory

    MP’s will fuck off on holiday, there will be an enquiry lasting 3 years and it will all be forgotten.

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    • 176
      Desperate Dan says:

      The BBC was getting a bit ahead of itself this morning. They had some PR operative (has he got a Pass to the HoC and who gave it to him) pronouncing that the Murdoch’s appearance this afternoon would be a “PR disaster”. I wasn’t quite sure whether it was live or a pre-recording that they were preparing for later on.

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  40. 103
    Jamess says:

    Guido, time to stick in the knife and remind everyone when you first warned the world about Coulson.

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  41. 106
    The Director of Politically Krect ‘n Convenient Troof at AlJaBeeba, the Brhoon Bullshit Corpse says:

    We think the media should be controlled! We are, – and we faithfully do all our masters tell us, – don’t we Eddy? And they reward us well.

    AND PAY YOUR TELLY TAX!

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  42. 115
    Raving Loon says:

    Why is the left’s solution to any problem yet more control of our lives? Every little issue becomes a crisis, and it is demanded that we surrender yet more of our hard earned freedom. Yes, bad things were done, and those resposible will be held to account. Yet we can do all of this under existing laws. We don’t need more regulations to deal with “pre-crime” and we certainly don’t need politicians deciding what is and is not acceptable in the media. Freedom of the press is necessary, messy, unruly at times, but necessary. Timid people much prefer the calm order that tyranny provides, but we should not give in to our fear nor let the government take advantage of us to establish the media control they would want whether the NoTW scandar had happened or not.

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    • 126
      MrAngry61 says:

      The only way that the opposition can EVER gain traction is to be hysterical. That’s LibLabWatermelon of course – the right never get any coverage in opposition anyway…

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  43. 116
    I would like a letter that comes after O please Bob says:

    I have an idea for a competition
    Unlike our getting poorer by the day host(soon to be with out advertisers) I really will pony up a prize to the lucky winner

    Come up with an inventive name that sums him up in an umodded way

    ” la sphère de la merde”

    Round , full of shit and in france

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  44. 118
    The Umpire is always right! says:

    Judging by the polls , it looks like voters accepted Murdochs apology in the sundays.

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    • 123
      eeu to me says:

      The choice is Murdoch or the politicians, seems easy, we always pick the poor sod who is being ganged up on .

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  45. 119
    Tax Payer says:

    Why is Stephenson in uniform in front of the committee – he’s resigned?

    Hahaha – Vaz declared he was at a lunch recently with Stephenson, paid for by the Sun; and that he was invited to the NI summer bash!

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    • 134
      I don't need no doctor says:

      Because he remains in post for about three months until his successor take over.

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    • 147
      Bill d'Sarse says:

      The period of notice required to terminate their service in his contract. It is usually one week for each year of service up to a max of about of 12 weeks notice. So, he is still serving until the end of his notice period. Like any other job really.

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  46. 121
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Honest Jack Straw has just been on BBC News 24. He too conveniently forgot the past. There is definitely an illness within the labour party that cause them to forget the past thirteen years when they were in government.

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    • 163
      Desperate Dan says:

      He’s been on Sky as well. So has Tessa Jowell whose best friend is Mrs Alan Rusbridger. I hope for her sake she hasn’t accepted any hospitality from the Rusbridgers or Ed will have her out on her ear. He doesn’t approve of that sort of thing.

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    • 174
      statechaos says:

      It’s called political dementia and once you get elected you are no longer immune

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  47. 125
    Anonymous says:

    would it be correct to suggest that all of this media mayhem is actually about the rights to cover the 2012 olypics in wonderful london???

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  48. 127
    I don't need no doctor says:

    The committee have just come unstuck. Stevenson has just stated that he took no swipe at Cameron.
    You can hear the groans from Labour, the BBC and the Guardian.

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    • 132
      Down With Brown! says:

      He had a go at how the media (BBC) spun his remarks.

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    • 138
      Dave is knifed again says:

      And then he goes on to say that Coulson by definition is associated with phone hacking and Wallis was not associated with phone hacking.

      Knife in…Knife twisted

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  49. 128
    Anonymous says:

    Keith Vaz is full of shit

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  50. 130
    The Umpire is always right! says:

    Night stalker?

    Ok BBC going to get wet over this.

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  51. 131
    Martin Day says:

    Tom Watson is in superb form to take on the Murdochs later this afternoon.

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    • 144
      Tax Payer says:

      “Superb form” as in “extremely fat and greasey” ?

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      • 178
        Desperate Dan says:

        I wonder what colour his hair will be this afternoon. I hope he’s had second thoughts about Ebony Black. It really didn’t suit him.

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  52. 133
    The Umpire is always right! says:

    FFS

    Coulson/wallies. They have first names and have not been convicted of any crimes.

    Impartial?????

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  53. 136
    The Umpire is always right! says:

    Good one from Vaz

    Damian Green affiar.

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  54. 140
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Stevenson took no swipe at Cameron. Yet more BBC misrepresentation. The BBC should apologies now.

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  55. 141
    Mulberry's Harbour says:

    The issue for Cameron is that it’s not about the deficit, education, spending cuts, pension ages, aircraft carriers or defence. It’s about his personal choice to hire Andy Coulson. So it makes sense that other Conservatives are steering clear as it is up to Cameron to sort it out, not the party.

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  56. 142
    Helpful says:

    Funny that what he is getting panned about is the behaviour of NI when Labour was in power and that Coulson and others weren’t properly pursued by the Met when they were supervised by the then Labour Government. If the Met had pursued the original phone-hacking with vigour on Labour’s watch the issue of appointing Coulson would probably not have arisen. The person who should be on the hook for all of this is not Cameron but the then Home Secretary and his bosses in No 10 at the time.

    Nonetheless Cameron needs to change the agenda, in my view he should state to parliament the time has come for a referendum on our continued membership of the EU and that he intends to bring a bill for a referendum before Parliament in the new session with the vote to coincide with local elections next year.

    He should also state he intends to permit a free vote on Referendum Bill.

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  57. 148
    Tax Payer says:

    The committee is getting nowhere with Stephenson. They’re trying to trip him up but he’s got the answers.

    Typical M.P. comment is:

    “Why won’t you just dump on Cameron?”

    Typical response is:

    “Because that’s not what I want to do”

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  58. 149
    MPs are NOT the law says:

    Quite right Sir Paul. Politicians should have no input into a criminal investigation, The Government and the police should operate at arms length.

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    • 151
      Tom Baldwin's Liebour Ajax supplier says:

      Corrupt Vaz is all over the place…..had Baldwin given him some coke!

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  59. 150
    Tory Totty says:

    Nicola Blackwood, yum yum!

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  60. 154
    Jess The Dog says:

    http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/corporate/research_and_reports/what_price_privacy_now.pdf

    ICO report that Blackwood refers to. The government at the time was Labour, and it had another four or so years to run.

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  61. 155
    Do not like the idle rich says:

    Hello Tory Boys

    Who will be arrrested first?

    Toffee nosed Cameron 1/2

    Toffee nosed Osborne 3/1

    Toffee nosed Johnson 5/2

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    • 159
      Tom Baldwin's Liebour Ajax supplier says:

      My bets gone, they are already on the way to arrest Baldwin, though the americans want to have him there on bribery charges!

      Campbell and brown have started up Maxwells boat and are heading off to escape arrest!

      Bliar has been spotted in tripoli, SAS are getting ready!

      Red Ed will resign in the morning after murdoch tears him a new one!

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      • 164
        Do not like the idle rich says:

        Murdoch will be tearing nothing but his hair.

        If he has any goolies left after this the Yanks will have them.

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    • 180
      Desperate Dan says:

      The Guardian 24 July 1999: “Mrs Mindells (a neighbour from his childhood) said Jack Straw was a “toffee-nosed boy who nobody wanted to play with” and who “told off the ice-cream man for playing his chimes after 7pm”.

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  62. 156
    Do not like the idle rich says:

    Hello Tory boys

    Isn’t Murdoch a Tory? I thought he was.

    Nothing wrong with putting a sick kid’s medical records on the front page of your paper to boost sales, is there?

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    • 158
      Tom Baldwin's Liebour Ajax supplier says:

      I thought he was a blair man…like Baldwin who hacked and killed dr Kelly…

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      • 168
        Do not like the idle rich says:

        No, Rupert is a Tory boy whose first concern is how much money he can make.

        Thatcher loving Tory boy, mind you as she waived the rules for him you can kinda understand it.

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    • 169
      Desperate Dan says:

      Not as bad as the Brown’s weeping on TV about it for electoral purposes.

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  63. 157
    Do not like the idle rich says:

    Tory boy sympathies with the super rich as usual and the policeman who hobnobbed with people he should have arrested.

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    • 162
      Tom Baldwin's Liebour Ajax supplier says:

      I take your a coke head BBC UN t…

      still on strike
      or still at school!

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      • 166
        Do not like the idle rich says:

        Just observing the Tory weeping and gnashing of teeth.

        Hearts bleeding for the rich and powerful. What’s new?

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        • 171
          Desperate Dan says:

          Which “rich and powerful” do you mean? The multimillionaire Tony Benn? The multimillionaire Tony Blair? or Shaun Woodward? or Lord Levy? Fatty Prescott? There are so many to choose from.

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    • 170
      Tory Girl says:

      I do so agree. The super-rich Tony Bliar should be arrested without delay.

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      • 175
        Do not like the idle rich says:

        Toffee nosed Tory boys inherit but do not earn.

        One of them actually described this phone hacking business as ‘codswallop’.

        This was because his own phone was hacked and he had soft, brown smelly stuff running down the inside of his trousers when he realised what Tory girl Rebekka might do with the info. illegally obtained.

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        • 177
          Desperate Dan says:

          You do not like the idle rich? I don’t like the idle poor.

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        • 186
          MacGuffin says:

          Nor do they create or build.

          It’s fun watching Tories in meltdown panic and they’ve only been in power (sort of) for a year!

          The Grey Suits are marching. Cameron is toast.

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  64. 160
    Jess The Dog says:

    Stephenson said he wanted Elizabeth Filkin to advise the Met on media relations. Maybe Mr Vaz should speak to her about these matters.

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  65. 167
    AnyDirectDemocracyIsCommunism says:

    It says it all that Cameron was to busy gallivanting about abroad to provide his cabinet, parliament and the rest of the country with much needed leadership on this issue. It’s about time this country had a prime minister who concentrated on ALL ITS OWN IMMENSE DIFFICULTIES, which would leave absolutely no time or money whatever to waste abroad. ABOLISH ALL FOREIGN AID.

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    • 179
      Desperate Dan says:

      It probably comes as a surprise to you but most of the country don’t give a toss. That’s why the opinion polls haven’t moved.

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