Bercow’s Loses the Red Hand
John Bercow’s political journey is now complete. Newsnight reports that the Speaker has allowed Gerry Adams to resign his seat without taking up one of the ceremonial Crown positions that every other MP wanting to quit has had to do. In wanting to avoid giving the republican a headache, Bercow has altered the British constitution forever . It is now possible, following this precedent, for any MP to walk away with a simple letter to the Speaker.
Guido wonders what Bercow’s old singing companions from the Rangers supporters club would have to say about him sparing Adams the humiliation…
Karren Brady fuck off back to the apprentice and stay out of football.
Of course they will have to stop producing Loose Women or turn it into Loose Men and Women,otherwise it will be sexist as Loose Women.
I approve of Gerry Adams and his cheeky Oirish mates.
ok so you approve of murder and mahem in the persuit of power as long as it doesnt affect you i suppose
Is it too much to hope for that the security services will slot the Hunt when he finishes as an MP?
Who the fuck is Karren Brady?
Karen Brady is an executive of west ham and also is in the aprrentice as one of Alan Sugars assistants.
She’s going down with the Hammers.
if the old maxim remains true, when people in the news become the news it’s time for them to go. Gray and Keys are both utterly horrible and their dinosaur like behaviour just proves that sexism is alive and well in the media – it’s all part of the culture. Off with their heads …..
Fuck off laing, are you taking the piss or what 10, 000 years worth of Anglefolc blood doesn’t run through my veins so that I have to read this pc mindbleach dogma dogshit.
Fucking carpet munchers are slagging off men left and right. If it had been two s’hirt lifters all you sheep woul have thought how ‘risque’.
Get to fuck ye wee timorous beasties
Harriet Harman was not expected to resign over her sexist comments and she was the miniskirt of equality so what is good for the goose is good for the gander!
It’s not as if resigning as an MP was particularly hard before, or that the process (in practice) involved much more than writing a letter. All this means is that Iris Robinson gets to stay in charge of the Chiltern Hundreds and that Michael Martin keeps the run of the Manor of Northstead. Whole thing has a nice symmetry about it…
I neither doubt your erudition or your diligence but wouldn’t be surprised if there are some potentially significant constitutional issues. Why on earth is Bercow such an utter fucking tit? Does he get off on it? (assuming Newsnight haven’t fucked up again)
Newsnight have indeed screwed up. Adams is still an MP until he disqualifies himself.
Why on earth is Bercow such an utter fucking tit?
because Sallyis the fucking twat?
And that was a classic example of why dyslexics should avoid predictive texting.
Is this really a legally valid resignation? It is not a good thing for the Speaker to change the law by personal command any more than it is for ministers or monarchs to do so.
Politics in the UK is now just a silly game. Like in Tunisia, it needs to be taken to the streets.
You seriously believe that there should be mass demonstrations about maintaining archaic technical parliamentary pomposity which has no relationship to anything that matters?
No. Let’s just let them all take the piss out any fucking idiot who voted for them.
Are you one of those?
Idiots is a harsh term.
Those who voted Tory were voting for a party that strongly opposed the concept of coalitions. Those who voted LD wanted to keep the tories out. Labour has been ahead in the polls since. The relationship between the intention of those represented and the power of those representing them is currently very weird. Not sure that makes the voters idiots.
After the revelations of the wholesale theft of taxpayers money by our esteemed Parliamentary representatives?
Are you some kind of c’unt, or just a straight man providing the feeds?
Did you know tat rapes small dogs and thinks spacealiens are out to get him. It’s because he’s a paranoid drug addict nutter.
actually, if all it takes is one swipe of Bercow’s pen to change the UK constitution then we are well and truly fucked – I mean FUCKED
well yes it does a sense of order it has to start some where otherwise society unra vels fine until it affects you
Newsnight got it wrong.
The same Squeaker who, last week, was haranguing people for ignoring convention. Address him as ‘Your Shortness’, those writing.
He won’t be Happy.
Hunt is infinitely preferable.
Trick censorship software at work…hmm.
That should have been
C*u*n*t is infinitely preferable.
Did you mean cunt?
I prefer ‘Your Arrogance’.
“Your Shortness” is about right.
Poor little hubby’s only got a VERY small cock.
Why d’you think I shag around so much?
Like a good socialist wench, I’m only here for the trappings.
Huhne’s bitch has got a twelve inch strap on, if you ever want to try a bit of lezzing. Be warned though, he does like to watch.
The intrusive porn on the previous thread has had the desired effect: I ‘m off.
‘Bye, see you tomorrow.
Use a sock. It helps prevent a mess!
No comment
The Houses of Parliament seem to be run by druids.
This Chiltern Ports and Sinque Hundreds nonsense should have been abolished three or four centuries ago.
Is “Cinque” the spelling for which you are grasping?
Cinque port… Sink estate… Whats the difference?
Will a simple letter from me do?
Yes put very simply “Go & Fu*k Off for Good !!”
even your Haggis Kranel cavity should clearly understand that straight forward
message ……
Err make sure you use a dark coloured crayon, pastel colours don’t scan very well!
Yet again Bercow proves what a total Hunt he is and why he is just as unfit as Gorbals Mick was to be the Speaker of the House of Commons. So that’s now two wholly dreadful Speakers in a row that the, equally appalling and unfit, Labour party have inflicted upon our democracy.
Like Gorbals, Bercow somehow floated to the top of the H of C cesspit and was appointed for his outstanding awfulness. It is high time he was dragged from his chair and sent packing. No doubt the taxpayer will stuff his pockets full of money in the process.
yeah and its labours go next time …:)
Just another example of how our unwritten constitution is not worth the paper it is not written on.
However the Americans have a written one that is clearly not worth the paper it IS written on, so god help us all.
Our laws depend on the whims of the courts. The courts are controlled by the establishment. Our establishment clearly hates us all in general, and our property rights in particular. The sooner they can get shot of most of us, the more they will like it, and the less they will end up paying for our health services and pensions, which they never intended in paying to most of us in the first place.
They don’t need hardly us to either make things, or many of us to fight their wars, for them to make vast profits from anymore. We are therefore dangerously surplus to requirements, and so will have to go sooner rather then later.
My advice is to make a will.
This will make you feel a little better when you are coughing up the last of your lungs, however other then that there is little point, as you will likely not have any one left to leave it to for long, and it wont be worth anything by then anyway.
… apparently the super-volcano under Yellowstone Park in the good ol’ US of A is going to explode soon and destroy half the World. If that happens then who the fuck is going to care if they are slaves to the system, their property values stagnant or the political elites don’t give a toss about you or me?
But, still, I prefer your version of the End of Days as, at least, there was no mention of Global Warming and eco-warrior pricks wanting to take us back to the Stone Age with WE having to pay for the privilege …
The left and eco warriors aint got the guts no more, they are constantly regurgitating the same gift wrapped turd that has been haunting the recent centuries that people are starting to see through the same tired bullshit hallmarks. Their masters are done with them for the current generation.
They are foaming at the mouth in blind panic because their masters have left them high and dry and the Chinese have presented to the world what the left have stood against since day one and debunked the whole ideology for the world to see, If you want power, if you want wealth, if you want success, try capitalism.
Mr Wan and his daughters in China aren’t content to work their asses off in the field or factory for their equal share anymore, Mr Wan wants some brass tacks in his pocket and nice car and better life for himself and his family like Mr Han the businessman has down the road.
They are done, they are in the death throws, they will cease to exist in their current forms by the end of the century, it will be time to wrap the turd of their ideology up in a new bow and reinvent themselves again soon.
But thats the game and what is expected of them in the first place. The pawns are being put into place, the plays are being made, the ideology keeps existing because vested interests higher up find it a useful distraction still.
well said ….. not !
“Soon”, as measured on a geological timescale is next-to-meaningless in the context of the average human lifespan.
You can take your pick from many impending disasters, though – you are statistically more likely to die by being struck by a meteor/comet fragment than you are to win the lottery. Indeed, some serious scientific thought posits that periodic outbreaks of disease (such as the black death) may well have been initiated by bombardment from space; accounts of the time talk of foul air brought from rocks raining from the heavens, fire in the sky etc.
Or how about another one – that the increased precipitation from global warming (yes I know it snowed in December) actually leads via hugely increased fresh water falls into the northern seas to a catastrophic change in salinity-driven ocean currents, plunging northern latitudes into a new ice age?
Or there is another theory that posits that the earth’s magnetic field periodically goes to null (perhaps during a pole reversal) and all life is utterly eradicated by the massive amounts of solar and cosmic radiation that consequently wash over the planet.
Choose your poison.
disease from comets is complete bollocks.
Wierd but media friendly bloke.
That was the theory of the late Sir Fred Hoyle – that new viruses dropped into the atmosphere every time we passed through the track of a comet.
Rubbish; people win lotteries every week. When was someone last struck by a meteor or comet?
It might explain Ed Milipede’s strange bulging eyes and weirdly strangulated speech. Or he could just be a deformed twat.
14 million lottery tickets = one winner
1 big meteor or comet = 14 million ‘winners’
as the debate about the nature of the establishment here in blighty rages, the beeb have come up with this:
Posh and Posher: Why public schoolboys run Britain
A television programme by Andrew Neil on BBC 2, Jan 26
should be interesting as the focus of the establishment is to continually look after itself flourishes in the current economic travail – I mean how many rich people do you know are struggling….?
On the flipside how many BBC workers do you know that are struggling?
The thing about socialism is you have to be rich or at least comfortable to truly believe in it in the first place.
Nothing progressive about handing a few people more control and power over everyone else in the hope you will someone how get a better deal out of it.
The poor started working that out along time ago, hence why race was then made an issue, you against I. To keep people against each other.
A poor black man has more in common with a poor white man than he will ever have in common with a rich black man who claims to be his brother.
The rich and middle classes projected their own racist beliefs onto the working classes and manufactured divides where their previously where none to constantly keep the worker drones from catching on.
On the flipside do you know any BBC workers who are not struggling?
How can a company with a guaraunteed income of £3.4 billion est in revenue a year have struggling workers?
Have you heard about the “struggling” oil/petrol tanker drivers voting for possible strike action?
They are the best paid drivers on the road by some distance who like the firemen and the tube workers hold the country to ransom every time they don’t get what they want. CMD needs to update the legislation on voting for strikes to stop militant groups bringing the country to a halt. Personally I don’t hink he has the guts.
“hence why race was then made an issue, you against I. To keep people against each other.”
Nail. Head. Hammer.
Bloody good synopsis.
And the other end of the scale is the likes of Postman Pat who can’t even add 2+2? I think I’ll take the public/grammar schoolboys any day of the week.
Too true Jabba; that’s why I am spending my lifetime savings on sending my two grandsons to an expensive top grade public school.
No apologies for ensuring not enough left for the taxman.
We need more public schoolgirls ruinnng our country
Everyone knows that if women governed the world we’d still be sat in caves talking about whether fire was dangerous or not.
The truly deluded souls who are still taken in and believe in the manufactured left and right divide need something drastic to wake them up.
Even the thick ragheads have cottoned on that something smells rotten in their respective Denmarks.
Ruff
They haven’t got wall to wall “Corrie”. “Eastenders” “Strictly…”X factor”,”Britain’s Got Talent”(?)” or “Dancing on Ice” though and the majority of the British would sooner settle down to a nice night in front of the telly to get pissed with a can of cut-price lager than take to the streets or start a revolution
Bread and Circuses!
So it’s the Danes again the bastards.
I bet that Sandy Todsticksonn bird is behind all the current unpleasantness.
No Dane Geld to this BBC bint.
Don’t squirt all Danes with Sandy’s baster.
Sticks in your craw, does it, Fawkes?
Heath made a travesty of Parliament while you and Bercow were still kids. It’s hardly surprising that Bercow, ultra right-wing Tory in his youth, seems in maturity to have developed a contempt for antiquated parliamentary niceties. He just went with the flow.
Funny place, this Westminster village. Must be something in the water.
“Bercow has altered the British constitution forever”
My resident lawyer assures me that there’s no formal constitutional document as such, so the wee fellah can’t really be charged with having altered it.
I should add that the related charge of being a malignant dwarf still stands.
Sad but true. Parliamentary Sovereignty was okay in the days when parliamentarians knew how to behave, sadly I am becoming more and more convinced we need a written constitution to keep the current crop (and their likely successors) in line.
And who would vote the “written constitution” into law? Those very same crop members you wish to keep in line! Can’t see it happening.
Just because the politicians would fuck up the implementation, doesn’t make idea wrong.
Besides, the written constitution I had in mind as a model came into existence solely because a bunch of Brits took up arms and defeated a global superpower.
The US Pres’ power of autonomous action is severely limited by the structure of the institutions there, done to avoid a repetition of the centralisation of power problems in England in the late 18thC: the UK needs the same, now.
The trouble with written constitutions is that they become another goldmine for dodgy lawyers,
Limiting the powers of the PM (and hence the executive) is a must. Under the current system he has way to much of a hold over the MPs who are supposed to do that. A written constitution and directly elected PM are a must in my book if the country is to sort out the mess.
I just want to see Berkow and his wife Sally Fishbucket gone – thrown out on their respective ears whilst having the sh@t kicked out of them. You’d have to look far and wide to find a more smug, odious, cretinous couple. It’s their kids I feel sorry for.
I think Ed and Yvette have them by a short head.
Magda Goebbels knew what to do.
Being a government Minister looks awfully like an office of profit under the Crown to me!
Big worry is the Speaker “resigning” MPs on the back of a conversation. How useful that might be!
Given the way they treat their expenses, so does being an MP.
The current system is that an MP cannot resign. This stops MPs resigning on mass and causing constitutional problems. MPs can stand down by being given one of the two fictitious posts. Chiltern hundreds etc. If the post is not offered then they are still an MP.
Berk Bercow has now opened the door. He thinks he is a one man Parliament.
By inference, if an MP fails to take up one of the two positions traditionally used to resign, but just does not attend the HoC, or indeed perform any MP functions – does he/she still get an MP’s salary?
Need you ask? Those well-known NI terrorists never took the oath or turned up for debates. Did we stop their salaries or allowances?? ‘Course not!
What? You think MPs lose their pay and privileges simply for failing to do the job for which they were elected? Upon which planet do you dwell, sir?
With the political class taking no notice of any moral, legal or constitutional rules why the fuck should I take any notice of laws they pass – surely if they are not abiding by a set of rules, any legislation has no validity.
put the dwarf Bercow in a box and fedex him somewhere
I think Bercow is a midget not a dwarf
dwarf
Main Entry: dwarf
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: miniature, tiny
Synonyms: baby, diminutive, low, petite, pocket, small, undersized
Notes: a dwarf is smaller and not proportioned like an average person; a midget is smaller but is proportioned like an average full-grown person; a pygmy is perfectly proportioned but smaller than a midget
I find “short-arsed, arrogant tit” covers all the bases and avoids confusion.
Short Arsed Stupid Qretinous Useless And Cannot Think Himself
I read that poor little Bercow had his pocket picked on the Tube. I thought: “How could anybody stoop so low?”
And who was it gave them the vote, what do they know about AV and PFI?.
I don’t mind the terrorist skirting the rules to quit as long as he foregoes the “resettlement grant” and other generous benefits ceasing to be an MP attracts.
Ourselves Alone!
Why are wenpandering to those two? If the speaker can change the constitution shouldn’t we have an elected lawyer or something in the role?
How Gerry Adams can resign… Blogpost: http://tinyurl.com/4kenvg4 (In answer to @BBCMichaelCrick )
I don’t think Adams ever took the Oath (as opposed to the pay) and so technically he may not have become an MP and is therefore not required to resign.
Before 1997 he would not have been paid but now there is some sort of fudge.
I suspect Bercow is following advice from the Clerk of the Commons here.
Take your point, but hen he did not have to then submit a letter either. By paying him for being an MP they tacitly acknowledged he was an MP. Parliament fudges the issue as usual!
Message to Guido
O/T Go buy Sky News for the good of the nation
God bless Gerry Adams. Great man.
There is no significant precedent here. Adams’s situation is not normal. He has never taken the oath. The real precedent-setting change was when Blair allowed Adams and other Sinn Fein MPs to get a salary and access to the Palace of Westminster without taking the oath.
Lizard pardons slug.
Or is it slug pardons lizard?
You do know that Sinn Fein’s Danny Morrison has suggested George Galloway would be the ideal replacement in West Belfast … (and that suggestion wont have been made without due consideration)
I’m speechless, like the Speaker
Mr Speaker has been spoken to, and is doing what he was told. Good laddie, Adams goes, with a minimum of fuss, and disappears into an Irish Mist.
John Bercow is a dreadful man – not just in politics, but in his personal concduct.
One of the things I am ashamed of in my life was that I voted for him to become Chairman of the Federation of Conservative Students. I had met Mr Bercow and thought him dreadful – he stank of corruption, a man I would never trust in relation to anything. But I was told he was the “sound” candidate and voted for him.
Within months Mr Bercow was cooperting in the campaign to close down the very organization he had been elected Chairman of – he did not oppose the tidel wave of smears against the FCS, because he had been promised that if the organization was closed down he personally would still have a political career.
Once a shit, always a shit.
He looks like a complete twat in tha() photo but his behaviour as speak() have made h()m look twattier
oh dear , and people as thick as you have the vote …… how sad
Andy Gray sacked. Well done Mr Murdoch. When will Ed Balls follow suit and get rid of Harriet “The Sexist” Harman? We cannot have reprobates in Parliament!
According to the Beeb, the HoC haven’t recognised Adam’s resignation.
What are they going to do? Suspend him?
The archaic rules and regulations need to be swept away and a proper debating chamber made. Move it up to the Midlands, or somewhere out of london where all the hangers-on and lobbyists are afraid to go.
“The Speaker Sir John Bercow said Mr Adams had not followed a 400-year-old rule that requires him to accept a British crown-paid post before he could quit.”
Has the talentless little dwarf been knighted or is it an Irish Times error?
“the Hose of Commons Speaker John Bercow saying that by sending in a letter of resignation he has ‘de facto’ requested the appointment. ”
Nice to see there is some talent in the little prick!