Let’s All Go To Monbiot’s
If you ever need reassuring that the green movement is populated by something other than looneyleft, you better look away now. In this morning’s Guardian George Monbiot advocates that the rich should have their homes forcibly opened up to solve housing shortages and those that refuse be punished:
“It needs to be researched, debated, fought over. It needs to turn political. I can understand why neither the government nor the opposition dares to think about it: none of the major parties wants to pick a fight with wealthy householders. So it’s up to us to give them no choice, by turning under-occupation into an issue they can’t avoid. It cannot be left to the market, as the market works for the rich.”
Guido would like to offer Monbiot’s country pile in Machynlleth, Wales to the public first. All together now… Let’s all go to Monbiot’s, let’s all go to Monbiot’s, la la la la…
UPDATE: Mark Wallace does the maths and Ed West at The Telegraph has given George two barrels – “New year, new fascist-egalitarian proposal from the Guardian”.
They won’t be allowed near any of my TEN homes !!
And they can stay clear of my TWELVE properties !
Haven’t the rich suffered enough ?
Look, you’d probably be exempt if you donated to Labour, so where’s the problem?
And think of the massive database we’d need to administer this scheme!
The massive bureaucracy alone would create huge numbers of wealth-creating public sector jobs.
This is a winner, I tell you
We can all joke about this communist crap but personally, I am not laughing. It is a very bad sign indeed that out-and-out totalitarian rants like Monbiots are appearing in the national press. Monbiot is a totalitarian, let there be no doubt. He sits there advocating violence against his fellow citizens — and again, that is what it is — with impunity. The correct response to this evil bastard is to threaten him right back. Bring it on Monbiot, you fucking pussy. You totalitarian shits will get more than you bargained for.
“If you want to understand climate change, go and see Al Gore’s film, An Inconvenient Truth.”
Just finished watching Dr Zhivago… well that worked out really well didn’t it?
The week before GM was raving about the power utilities pushing more people into fuel poverty.
So let’s see George… you’re opposed to deep water drilling which means there’d be less oil, making it an even scarcer resource and therefore more expensive, you’re also for wind turbines and solar panels which are both the most ineffective and expensive forms of power generation in existence.
The man’s a total cretin.
They can fuck off.
Can someone do a quick survey of shadow cabinet/ lefty journo homes/2nd homes and the number of spare rooms therein?
I’ve only got six or seven (I lose count) so they can fuck right orrff!
Is that 6 or 7 rambling country pies?
I’ve got six or seven rambling country piles , not pies.
Mind you, I have got Taxpayer-funded piles and pies as well.
Sounds painful. Have you tried ointment?
Can you imagine the size of the applicator…?
Do they make yardbrooms with fifteen-foot handles?
You can laugh, but the fact that NuLiebores hypocrites each have 26 houses is a guarantee that this will NEVER happen.
Or maybe……… it will happen, but only to little people with a small spare bedroom, not to Moonbat, Bliar and chums.
My sister has a spare box room.
My roomy box is spare since Mr Timmings discovered porn videos.
Guido Should publish the address in wales of this blokes home, there is no need to suggest something and then not give people the means to cary it out…
My proposed legislation would only apply in England
Our noble lands of our Celtic cousins (and all properties therein) would, of course, be exempt.
We should probably give them some subsidies as compensation
Monbiot’s a chynt
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=8&sqi=2&ved=0CEMQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.keepmachspecial.org.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F07%2Ftesco-objection.doc&ei=fhEjTcDKFYrQhAe7vfy2Dg&usg=AFQjCNEFJUWMkpHbyl6iKAWC94wKEn_DYQ
The bloke is a professional objector. He objects to everthing.
The people of Machynlleth want a Tesco store, then this English Moonbat moves in and tries to stop them having one,
Really nice big pad, according to Google Earth. Unless it is subdivided.
Hang on a minute! That’s my full home address, personal email, landline and mobile phone number on that letter there! You can only do that to little people! Do you know who I am? My Daddy was head of the Tory Trade and Industry Forum! My mummy is a Tory Councillor! I was brought up in Henley-on-Thames! I went to Stowe School! I went to Brasenose College, Oxford! I worked for the BBC World Service! I am more of a privileged reactionary left wing cliche than Harriet Hormone! I am … George MoonTwat!
His Dad is a party treasurer for the Conservatives, and his mother is a county councillor in Norfolk, perhaps George could ask his folks if they would mind a few squatters in their orchard?
His house name means “The Plum Tree”. Perhaps it’s a pub.
It may mean “The Plum Tree” in Celtic – but in the Secret Language of Moonbat, it means “Trustafarian Piss-Take”. The hi-fi is called “Bose,” the dishwasher is called “Miele,” the kitchen is called “Poggenpohl,” and the computer is called “Apple.” It’s obvious; even a labra-doodle cross from Swansea like me can join the dots.
George Monbiot
Y Goeden Eirin
Ffordd y Drenewydd
Machynlleth
Powys SY20 8EY
george@monbiot.info
01654 702758
07890 444271
No need for publication. Just drive round Machynllech looking for a large house with a forest of windmills on the roof. That’ll be the one.
He should have bought in Chiantishire. All the best socialists do.
Let them live in the lobby of the Guardian HQ.
And the poor can Stay away from my country residence.
The legislation will only apply to villas in England – not to my Tuscan villa. To do otherwise is to be a nasty, white, anti-european attitude.
I’m sure this wont apply to homes which have been bought with the proceeds of crime.
I see the Guardians online comment is free editor Natalie Hanman throws a hissy fit early on in the debate by attempting to upbraid a number of posters who have had the temerity to disagree with moonbat. She only makes herself out to be childish and immature. perhaps her job title should be renamed editor of the guardians comment is free as long as it agrees with what I think editor.
Get with it – it’s Komment Macht Frei
Dissenting views not tolerated and disappeared down the memory hole.
The Guardian is a grotesque shitstain on the face of liberty.
Oh I’ve got it, failing broadsheet in danger of going out of business devises a cunning plan which is as follows.
Have feature writers pen some of the biggest fuckwitted articles imaginable, haemorrhage readers at an accelerated rate leading to rapid terminal decline in its circulation.
Claim insurance.
This surely puts the lid on anything Monbiot proposes, in any sphere at all?
He’s almost in W Benn’s class, now.
I look forward to seeing him lead the charge for lodging and food at any one of P Toynbee’s houses!
I thought the mad Moonbat had been committed to Broadmoor a long time ago. Mentalist!
Moonbat is seriously deluded and has long since been driven to insanity.
I really do not know how anyone can take his lunatic rantings seriously. His hatred of air travel is only matched by his hypocrisy in travelling by air to the States to promote his books.
His logic is so convoluted that extreme cold is proof of global warming and despite many global records of surface temperatures on land and the sea surface temps showing no significant warming whatsoever over the last 15 years, he chooses to promote that delusional demegogue Dr Hansen’s NASA GISS record which extrapolates the temperatures at the warm Arctic Airports (into 1200km grids) as proof that the Arctic is 15 degrees warmer than normal and therefore proof that global warming causes extreme cold and record breaking freezing.
Perhaps when the earth warms by the 4.5 degrees or more that he thinks is inevitable, that will tip us into the next ice age?
This latest fascistic Marxist extremist rant of his is further proof that he should be never ever be taken seriously in any forum whatsoever.
I’m sure Mr Monibot is very eager to practice what he preaches. I wonder how many immigrants are homeless in his part of the world?
Not many immigrants, but there are plenty of sheep that could do with shelter to escape the current global warming that GM so often waxes lyrical over.
Missed out a couple of possessive apostrophes there…
a dwelling is a fine thing for its inhabitant, but contributes nothing to anybody’s revenue, including (unless he rents it out) his own. – Adam Smith
I hesitate before taking up arms against someone as illustrious as Adam Smith, but:
I have worked from my dwelling for a quarter of a century now. I have not had to pay rental or Uniform Business Tax. I kept 100% of my considerable capital gain when I sold it, all within the law.
But most of all, it has given me the stability and base to earn money over this time, some years have been very lean, others have been profitable beyond my wildest dreams and have more than made up for the poor ones. This would not have been possible without my dwelling.
In the last decade, 90% of my increase in net worth has come from appreciation of my dwelling, not a paper gain either, as I realised it, in cash, in 2007. The process is happening over again, just in a different place this time.
So I think one has to interpret his remarks with some care.
But surely any appreciation in the value of your dwelling is only realised once you sell it off and has then to be offset against similar appreciations in the values of the next property you buy. A second home, now thats a different kettle of fish and if you could get someone to pay the mortgage on that then you really have it made.
I understand your argument but, as with my original challenge to Adam Smith, quoted by OH, it does necessarily hold in every case. I emigrated and spent what was then 33% of my UK property realisation in another part of Europe, bordering the Adriatic. I have since spent another 10% of my realisation upon improving the property.
Since then, the realignment of currencies, and the changes in property values here and in the UK have resulted in my new property being worth more now than my old one was (or is now, for that matter) plus I have the difference invested in deposits, securities and fine arts to spread the risk of over-exposure to any one market. Oh and I did also buy a tiny property in the UK which I rent out as well.
I do not claim to have all the answers but my (old-fashioned) banking background has kept the concept of spread (in risk) very much to the fore.
As an old fashioned banker you’d have no place in My New improved Dynamic Banking organisation Sunny Jim.
There is no money you have ever seen, or touched, that could buy me, Fred!
It’s all the baby boomers fault according to the BBC.
They have gained massively from the house price rises, but apparently when they sell up, the baby boomers don’t live anywhere, they don’t have to buy a new over-priced house or flat to live in from the engineered house price boom. They just kept the entire money all to themselves and doss in the streets.
You can sell up and still live in the same property free of charge. It’s called equity release. It just means the kids won’t inherit anything.
But it isn’t free of charge. You will have to start paying rent if you outlive the amount of years on the Contract.
Biggest con in history.
Not at all. The longer you live the more likely the value of the property will increase so many mortgage companies can take the risk so it doesn’t have to be fixed term.
Or we can leave…..seems like a very good plan to me at the moment.
The only people to benefit are relatives who inherit. EVERYONE else pays the penalty for the total mishandling of housing.
Just one example: people have to commute huge distances (and are now paying mightily for the privilege) because there’s nothing they can afford near their work-place.
spot on, the utter fuckwitted stupidity of the public with regards property prices is quite staggering. How often do you hear people say I bought my house 20 years ago for £30,000and its now worth £130,000 which means I’ve made a “profit” of £100,000 !
A word in your shell like
1. Whilst your house has increased so has every other one and all your “profit” will be swallowed up in buying your new home.
2. Over 20 years your £30,000 mortgage will have cost you around £100,000 in re payments.
3. You are a right stupid c unt
Hmm exactly, all this started in the 70s when the middle class first became obsessed with property prices and it’s been a major contributor to consumer booms ever since.
Why people continue to mistake the rising price of the property they live in as a growing investment is beyond me. Unless of course you plan to play the differentials and move to an area of the country where prices have grown at a slower rate.
Having said that if its a second home you CAN sell for pure profit and you wont even need to pay the mortgage if you get a second home allowance. Me and yvette worked that one out some time ago along with our chums in Westminster
Well, I paid over the odds for my house (the wife fell in love with it) and I work 2.5 miles from home. If I lived further away from work I would telecommute as a lot of my colleagues do.
Machynlleth is pronounced Ma Hunt leth in case you were interested
Ma C*nt leth when not auto modded
Not quite right. The ch is pronounced as in Scots “loch” and the ll is a sound no Englishman can master, although it is really quite easy.
Sometimes you can’t help but wonder what drugs arsehats like Monbiot is on. Let’s hope he stays on them and makes loads more idiotic pronouncements like this and makes the left ever more unelectable.
It’s the mind-rotting mixture of left-wing elitism and Fabian induhlectualism that besets so many of the chattering classes.
How dare you
I am chief induhlectual of the Empty Pwimrose Hill Bwigade
Its a bit like the WWF wrestlers in the US, they pick up their steroids when they go to the office for their paycheck.
In George’s case, he picks up a supply of drugs every time he goes to the bbc – looks like he opted for the halucinagenics party pack this week.
Machynlleth, a little village in Wales populated by mostly welsh people. How quaint.
No sheep ?
I think I will house half my extended family with Mr George in Wales and the other half with Mr Billy Bragg in Burton Bradstock. As my friend Wilfred Emmanuel-Jones says “Our parents established beachheads in the cities; it is now up to our generation to move out of those beachheads and claim the rest of Britain as our own.” I will need the toilets changed.
Another featherbed commie opens his gob and what comes out????
Bullshit,Bullshit,Bullshit,Bullshit…..!
http://www.monbiot.com/
registered to
George Monbiot
82 Percy Street
Oxford, England
OX4 3AD
GB
82 Percy Street cost £218,000 on 19/05/2004. Doesn’t sound that poor.
Nice address, innit
I fancies living there wiv tracy and the sprogs
I’ve just looked at it on Google streetview; it looks like a squat already, so you’ll have your work cut-out to make it any worse.
(Consider that a challenge. 6 bottles of White Lightning if you can do it.)
Mate of mine used to live on Percy Street. Very Victorian working class, terribly damp. Built for people who worked the canals, inhabited by down-wiv-da-peeple students.
They came down from Machynlleth in a burnt out blue FJ
That farted and just shat itself in Percy Street
Right next door to Monbie’s.
When the smoke cleared a voice said:
“Hey this place look alright,
Let’s tell the gov’ment its a sacred site,
Dead fucking easy.”
They had:
24 kids, nine adults and 16 dogs,
A dead roo on the roof rack
And a boot load fulla grog
And they’re livin’ flash as Micheal Jackson
Now they’re living next door to Monbie
Oh.
So, let’s get this straight: it’s all okey-dokey for the bourgeoisie and the petty-rentiers to enjoy under-occupation. It’s only the poor that need to undergo clearances. Hmm … sounds a familiar policy: MacLeod of MacLeod on Skye in 1732; Admiral John Lockhart-Ross of Balnagowan Castle in 1762; David Cameron in 2011.
What’s a bit of social engineering among good Tories?
If they can afford to under occupy and wish to waste their money on empty rooms then yes they should be able to.
What you propose in the not very thin end of the wedge. The next step would be assessing what size car people should be allowed to buy, how much food they should be allowed a week and so on.
It’s not that I don’t have any sympathy with those who can’t afford to buy, I am one of them, but your idea is a one way ticket to authoritarianism.
Monbiot is just totally crass. End.
He is an oxygen thief.
Who the fuck wants to solve the housing shortage? Not me, my property value has been hit enough already, only a housing shortage will help keep its present value.
Moron.
Good response. No answer to that one.
Well you were being rather stupid. The state shouldn’t allow people to build the houses they desire in order to bail you out of your housing speculation..
There’s no housing shortage. The country is disappearing under concrete.
There are, though, too many people.
1) immigration
2) excessive handouts to baby-producers. Chap on LBC last night, debating whether to give up his job because he had 6 kids. Complaining about tax rises etc. Nobody asked him whether a stork had brought them.
I wasn’t being stupid I was being selfish and I make no apologies for that.
No you were being moronic as your selfish desire would ultimately undermine your own lifestyle.
Let extend your logic:
I’ve decided my car price is depreciating too quickly, right Smoggie no car for you.
Well yes, but if everyone i(i.e. you change government policy) is selfish it harms the economy and you’re really worse off.
So it is stupid.
There is no housing shortage in the UK. There are just too many people.
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I have just read Mr Monibot’s article again.
How this man has the audacity to assume that those of us who have unoccupied bedrooms in our homes are wealthy, is breathtaking beyond the extreme.
However, while we’re all fuming over this article – what’s going on somewhere else…..????
We have just read Mr Monibot’s article again.
I hate George Monbiot…..
The left are seriously demented and very dangerous.
They need careful watching
Lets just get us out of the EU so we can stop immigration, send all the illegals home, send all the terrorists home without fear that they could sue us under the EU Human Rights Act (including the ones in our prisons) and then put the criminals who should have been in prison (had there been room) away (along with their deranged buddy Ken Clarke) – and there you are – housing crisis fixed!
No sleepovers at Polly’s.
and lets decriminalise drug use, and free up space to keep real criminals locked up as long as needed.
This is Britain, not the US Remember. Drugs use might get you a prison sentence after you’ve commited 100+ burglaries to fund your habit, not before.
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When has prohibition ever worked?
When has probation ever worked?
Tragically true. I worked for a business that took probationers on in order to provide them with the beginnings of an orthodox CV. On day one at work, this guy decided to walk out with a carrier bag full of charitable donations: he figured that he was as worthy a beneficiary as the charity he was supposed to be working for.
Sorry troops……………message for Billy Bowden……………..Billy, you are right, Billy Bowden IS the greatest Umpire ever………!!!
First Vince Windsock Clegg and Now MoonBat Monbiot mess up the simplest tax (The LVT).
We really have the most stupid political/MSM class ever.
I agree with George but I don’t think he goes far enough.
I think the rich should not only be forced to open up their houses to the deserving poor, they should also offer free use of their wives, mothers, daughters, sisters, cousins and nannies. If you are rich enough to afford a nanny you should be forced to share her with everyone.
I for one would gladly let the less fortunate have unlimited rides on my wife and daughters – it is for the good of society, after all.
They can also have free access to my bank accounts and credit cards, and are more than welcome to use my car. Heck, I’ll even put petrol in it.
Hurrah for George Monbiot! The Voice of Reason!
This isn’t far from where lefties are actually going. Any rise in prices, for example, ” hits the poorest hardest.” Well of course it does; that’s what being poor means. They seem to feel that better-off people should pay more for whatever they purchase.
Perhaps the price you pay for anything should be a fraction of your income: the happy socialist scenario in which your income, whatever it is, buys the same as everyone else’s. If you work hard, you wiil then get the same as someone who pops in now and again; if your job is skilled, dangerous, or requires years of study or experience, it will give you the same standard of living as an idle tosser.
Surely this should be in the next Labour Manifesto.
Spot on analysis there.
Of course chunts like Moonbat think it would never apply to them. They are somehow above it all.
Quite right.
Could you imagine if this was successfully implemented? The left would in a stroke demolish one of the few bulwarks against socialism: property ownership.
The ambition of Moonbat is vaulting, it would actually be a smaller step to ration say cars, food or foreign travel but he’s chosen to go for the biggie. Well he can fuck off.
I think George Monboit should have the privillege of being the first to allow his home to be used in this way.
Oddly enough, Clarence, the Tashkent Soviet (a collection of illiterate Russian wheeltappers and shunters who hated the local Muzzie natives) proposed something similar back in 1918*. Even Moscow realised they were going too far and sent someone to tidy the mess up with typical soviet effiency.
*I’m guessing the engineer in charge of that bit of the Trans-Siberian Railway had a hottie for a wife.
Let’s not forget, these are only the wet dreams of Monbiot, it’ll never happen. But it is nice to see just how utterly fucking mental, the minds of the left behave.
Ah, but try to enforce it on their patch. They don’t like it up ‘em.
Indeed Margaret Moran’s note:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5321064/Margaret-Moran-faces-investigation-over-Commons-notepaper-found-outside-Spanish-home-MPs-expenses.html
“Today’s straight-jacket quota, ladies and gentlemen, is simply a single building, the entire population within. Ah, here we are, Guardian HQ.”
strait. straight is another word.
Monbiot lives in one of the most expensive houses in his community – he paid over £250k in an area where the average is around half that!
http://www.houseprices.co.uk/map.php?pc=SY20+8EY&show=s
It looks nice too!
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&expIds=17259,27586,27812&xhr=t&q=george+monbiot+machynlleth&cp=10&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl
Oh, he was a big supporter of Assange and Wikileaks? I guess he won’t mind people knowing about this freely available data being distributed?
And how does he manage to travel to his country pile on public transport?
I’ve visited Machynlleth and it’s on the arse end of nowhere.
They have trains in Wales, you know.
Yeah, but Ivor the Engine lives in the top left hand corner of Wales; George’s pile is on the right hand edge about half way up.
get up there by train and tell us how you got on
Sure the idea went down a treat with the canapes at one of Polly’s cosy salon evenings. However not sure how much support his Islington/Primrose Hill Latte-left set will give him when they understand THEY might have to give up a room in the 6br, 3 story London home they own to some Junkie with 2 terms for GBH under his belt.
I wonder if he actually realises how much of a laughing stock he is? Although you have to admit he has made a great living out of half-baked ideas. He’s like the political reality TV show contestant. Selling his dignity and credibility for a few minutes of fame…
…but the paper is willing to pay him for it.
Pity.
Money’s cheap at The Guardian thanks to its tax-avoidance arrangements.
Ah, that must explain why they think that ‘comment is free’.
More evidence that the grauniad isn’t fit to wipe my shitty arse crack on.
Moonbat is completely bonkers. Not sure why the Grauniad continues to employ him – but there again we have been asking the same about Toynbee of Tuscany for a very long time now and she’s still churning out the same old drivel…
It’s for the Common Good.
…..of their bloated bank accounts.
can’t wate to take ova this rich twat Mongbogeys house and turn it into a crack den wiv me and me mates
The thing about the left (the Guardian and Independent readers who control the education system – but also the Financial Times and Economist readers who still exist in many supposedly private business enterprises) is that they are immune to both reason and experience.
It is pointless to explain to them that government taxes and welfare benefits and regulations are the CAUSE (not the cure) of housing problems – for they just will not accept it., iindeed their minds (supposedly so “liberal” and “open”) will not even understand the concepts involved.
For example, “housing benefit” acts like any other pushing subsidy progam – it pushes up the cost of the thing it pays for. Rents would be vastly lower than they are if “housing benefit” had not been created – and lower still if were not for things like “rent control”, “security of tenure” and (of course) the Town and Country Planning Acts. However, to a leftist all this is vile heresy – they will not even allow the consideration of it to enter their minds.
They also reject experience. Which major cities in American have the least housing problems (the most affordable housing, the fewest defaults and so on) – Houston and Dallas, but they are in Texas so they must be evil. And what major American city has the most housing problems – the most homeless as a percentage of the population, the biggest gap between rich and poor? The very things that leftist are supposed to hate.
San Francisco is this city – yet San Francisco (to Monbiots of this world) is good – by definition (just as Houston and Dallas are bad – by definition). It is indeed a nice looking place on hills by the pacific (Dallas had no advantages – just a failed socialist commune a little way from where the first town was built) – but the leftists moved to San Francisco (still a middle class place as recently as the 1960′s) and gradually took the place over.
Why do not the Monbiots of this world campaign for the millionaire (indeed billionaire) leftists of San Francisco to be forced to open their homes to the homeless? The homeless they have CREATED with their taxes, welfare schemes, rent control, planning regulations and……….
Oh I forgot – rich leftists have vital work to do, campaigning for “fairness” and so on, they can not be disturbed by having lots of homeless people sharing their bedrooms and so on. Only “reactionary” rich people (who, I suspect, will not turn out to be “rich” at all) should have this forced upon them.
All slums in New York were created by rent control
You hate him only because he is a commoner and not an aristocrat – anymore.
Many (most?) of these homes would be like that of my 87 yr old mother,now living alone but not wanting to move away from friends ,family and neighbours apart from the memories.I can quite understand how Moonbat sees my mum as an enemy of the people.It seems a vote-winner to me.
Ironically,the Human Rights Act would declare it unlawful.
The Communists did exactly the same thing after the Russian Revolution.
All in the interests of “fairness”.
Those whose “job” it was to decide what “fairness” was, took bribes, drove about in limousines, lived on their own in large and opulent apartments and enjoyed a rich and opulent lifestyle paid for by everyone else; most other people got poorer, lost their privacy and lost their assets.
Is the Guardian lurching to the extreme left, now that we have a Government which occupies most of the Guardian’s former political ground?
Hey! I like it!
Watch “Heart of a Dog” the Soviet film of Bulgakov’s book. It might well have Moonbat’s nuts I was given….
Dont forget mugabe did the same thing in Zimbabwie
There is no housing crisis in Great Britain.
There is a massive immigration problem though, mostly affecting England.
Mr Moonbat should be advovcating sterilisation (A Fabian concept) for those that cocntribute little to the “collective” – or as he already been there?
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Yes he has. Since he is an elite member of the group of ecomentalist extremists who fully supported the 10:10 ‘let’s brutally depict the graphic terrorist style murder of climate change agnostics’ and fully supports those human hating terrorist extremists who lead the ecomentalist campaigns to reduce the human population by nine tenths. He is firmly aligned with the Nazi elitists’ eugenics movement which provably morphed into the global ecomentalist movement.
Or how about letting them squat in Polly Toynbee Tuscan Villa.
Fuck you I had to write reams of bullshit to pay for that villa
…whilst waiting for my trust fund to vest.
Didn’t they try this policy in Zimbabwe?
I say we arm everyone, disband the police and after a year we’ll see who owns what fucking houses.
Yes comrades, Guardian is a great read and pillar of mother Russia. Pass the Vodka!
I pride myself on being a looney lefty – it is unnerving to be outlooned by Monbiot. What he proposes could ony be enforced by a armed workers’ militia patrolling the streets counting the lights on in houses. Little twerp. They’ll have better things to do than that come the Revolution.
Of course, ONLY the rich have spare rooms.
If this was a genuine proposal by Moonbat about using housing stock more efficiently surely it would be targeted at anyone with spare room(s). Alas, its just fucking leftie bollocks.
Shame really, there are interesting arguments to be had about the way modern society operates and habitation patterns have changed.
Reducing rates of divorce would have a big impact. Maybe the Arch-Wizard should have talked about that at Xmas.
Good point. How many blokes have to keep spare rooms free to accommodate their children once a month? How many spare rooms are there because so many women have been rewarded by the state for having multiple children to numerous different fathers? So you have one mother 6 children, 5 fathers all occupying 6 different houses or flats.
Whereas if women were actually required to be responsible and were not rewarded by the state for fucking around, then there would be less housing pressure.
Reducing immigration would be an additional help too.
Getting out of the EU, scrapping the European human rights and replacing them with a common sense version would be a big help.
We have a housing situation in this country which is not fit for purpose. The three biggest basic needs any human has is 1: access to safe drinking water. 2: access to food. and 3: the need for shelter.
All modern societies should be able to adequately meet those basic needs for all their people. There is more than enough of all three available. One should NOT be in debt for their entire lives to meet the very most basic human need.
Labour inherited a system in 1997 whereby most young people could get a place to live and meet their basic needs, with some difficulty. They turned it into a system whereby it has become impossible for most young people to afford to do so now.
It was not the correct system under the tories, and it got MUCH worse under labour.
Access to a suitable family accommodation should be a basic human right. Access to luxury accommodation should be earned and not given away, and the ability to earn enough to buy such a grand luxurious house should not be penalised by forcing others to share it.
We should have a system which protects family homes and meets the needs of ordinary families and protects property investors too.
I propose a system whereby a homeowner living in a family property can delist that property as a financial asset and list it in a central register as a ‘family home’.
It would not be subject to taxes as an asset or investment, or used to prevent NEEDED benefits or residential care. It would be unlawful to sell or rent out such a property. All listed properties MUST be lived in full time by the family registered to it.
To prevent speculation on such properties, listing would be for a minimum of 15 years. 5 years notice would be needed to delist a property as a family home.
If one has inherited a family home and was to know that that family home was to become empty then one could give that home away to another family in need with that new family requiring 15 years use and maintenance of such a home before being allowed to delist it as a family home.
If such a property where to become empty due to the “owners” of the property moving away, dying or whatever circumstance, in the first instance a family member should inherit the property and live in it full-time, again subject to a 15 year use including the 5 year notice to delist as a family home. or failing this then the state shall then use the property to home the needy for a minimum of 15 years before being allowed to apply to delist the property and it be sold, or rented at profit.
Any family could only list one property per family as a family home.
All property not listed as a family home will be free to be sold, rented, speculated on or invested in, used as an asset/liability as per normal.
People wishing to buy and sell property could still do so as now, but a large portion of the homes of the UK would be removed from speculative stock to be used to provide security in shelter for families that need it.
This would allow the families in this country who own their own homes, who also have no interest at all in speculating on their home and who require the security of a family home, who do not want the home sold from under them if they require care in later life and who wish to pass on their family home to one of their children as a family home without loss, the security and peace of mind to do so.
In this regard, family homes would not be regarded as “property” as such, but purely as homes.
cock talk
Perhaps if the political class hadn’t imported millions of high birth rate immigrants to drive up the UK population, we wouldn’t now be having a housing shortage.
Certainly hasn’t helped, but there are also thousands and thousands of white chav pram-pushers- and that’s only in my nearest big chav city (Leeds).
Nope. The birth rate for native Britons is well below replacement level. It’s the same story for native French, Germans, Italians, Spanish, Russians etc.. It’s the demographic time bomb few people will talk about publicly other than Mark Steyn.
The increase in the UK population is solely down to immigration and nothing else.
+1
I live off Guardian tax avoidance as well I will have you know…
Like my dear friend Polly Twaddle Doodle all the Day in Tuscany
I’m sure this is an old idea from the 1970′s
Fuckin hell !!!!!! , The guardian must be taking part in Daves big socitey, Employing the unemployable!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is Monbiot actively courting ridicule? Is it April 1st? Is the Editor hung over and let this through without reading it? Does the Guardian actually pay people to write this stuff? Is the Guardian seeking to extend its reading franchise to primary school?
Whatever it is you can be sure that a law will be passed which exonerates any of the aristocracy and MP’s from room-sharing. It’s just for the likes of us plebs because they haven’t squeezed enough out of us yet.
what are the comments like ? I bet all the lefties are having wet dreams about it .
Doesn’t this twits father the Raymon Moonbat that sit in the middle of the Conservative Party pulling strings from on high. Like father like son maybe?
Right who is for fat Polly’s house in Islington then? Or the one in Tuscany? I bags the fridge.
Let’s move all the gays in with the rich Muslims, that should be a real hoot.
That wouldn’t be allowed on religious and human rights grounds.
Please let me have Moonbat’s address – I will have it printed in Arabic, Swahili, Albanian and Romany and put it up at the sea ports and airports saying free housing and food for all. What kind of drugs does this spactard take?
Good point , Up til now i have been for drugs being legalized , But after this ? ………………………… Am going to have to think about it
O/T but, by God, those people at the Daily Mail are so incredibly quick on the uptake:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1343875/British-voting-biased-Labour-constituencies-uneven-size.html
Well there’s a surprise.
I can’t believe Labour would be so underhand. Can you?
I can’t believe that blu labour would have forgotten already.
I wonder why the media had not covered this scandal for years.
I was amazed at the last election how many intelligent people, who follow the media, had no idea that labour could theoretically and mathematically come third and still win the election due to these boundaries, and yet the media said NOTHING. Over the last decade as the tories defeated labour in all national elections except the general election, why the media constantly referred to the mountain the tories had to climb to win, as if they were miles behind labour in the number of votes needed to get more votes than labour, instead of the size of the massive landslide in votes needed to get a majority of one.
This has been a massive pro labour bias in the election for over 14 years. The mainstream media totally ignored it.
Beware when council boundaries are moved. This has happened more then once in the area I used to live in – and now I know why!
The conservatives KNEW ALL ALONG this was happening and went along with it. They are ALL bastards.
I did wonder why the tories went along with boundary changes before 1997 which gifted labour a 66 seat head start at that time.
Most ordinary people did not give a shit about it at the time because it was obvious that labour would win more votes. Likewise the 2001 and 2005 elections. I guess most people do not care by how many votes the winning party wins by so long as the party with most votes wins.
In 2010, the party with most votes did not win in seats outright, despite having a much bigger winning margin over the other parties in votes than labour had in 2005.
There was some media headlines immediately following Blair’s victory in 2005 because they only got 35.2% share of the vote and some newspapers questioned whether this was a decent mandate for a government, yet this 35.2% was enough to secure a 66 seat majority.
Most people did not care, because the party with most votes still won outright. That is what most people care about. You get more votes you win, simple.
Cameron in 2010 won more votes and a higher share of the vote than labour in 2005. He won a bigger winning margin of votes over the other parties than labour won in 2005 and yet failed to secure a majority of seats, because the boundaries are rigged in labour’s favour.
We ended up with a coalition not because that is what the people voted for, but because that is how the boundaries robbed the bigger win for Cameron into a failure to win a majority of seats.
After all a greater proportion and number of people voted conservative in 2010, than voted labour in 2005.
Had the number of votes cast in 2010 been exactly opposite, labour would have had a massive landslide victory in number of seats.
So I wonder why the tories did not make as much of a fuss about this before.
They aren’t going anywhere near my luxury Villa in Spain, bought with undeclared funds and backhanders.
We are watching you and have been for some time.
Monbiot?
Stupid Boy.
Don’t tell him Mainwaring.
Considering Labour have gerrymandered constituencies and have actively increased their support through immigration and benefit dependency it’s a wonder anyone else gets a look in.
Hang on. If Labour ‘actively increased their support through immigration’ how come the figures are: 1997 13.5 million; 2001 10.7 million; 2005 9.5 million; 2010 8.6 million?
Do you think you may be a little, say we say, stupid?
Yeah, but that decline in support has not been matched by a similar decline in seats. If it had, Labour would now have fewer seats than John Major’s tories won in 1997.
Simple, Cato. The decline in the number of native Britons voting Labour has been even greater. The “new arrivals” have simply arrested the rate of decline and kept the vote higher than it otherwise would have been.
Its clear that labours overall fall of support was from the middle classes and their “immigrant constituency” was an attempt to redress this decline. He is quite correct.
These are all made up unverifiable assumptions. Are you sure you haven’t caught a touch of the Gordon Browns?
Unverifiable assumptions?
BULLSHIT!
Labour got 8,609,527 votes winning 258 seats in 2010.
in 1997 the Conservatives won 9,600,943 votes winning only 165 seats.
So with nearly a million fewer votes and a smaller share of the vote (29.0% to 30.7%) labour won 93 more seats in 2010 than the conservatives in 1997. And the seat boundaries had changed slightly over that time to reduce the bias to labour.
Had the same boundaries existed in 2010 as in 1997, from the same 2010 share of the vote, labour would have won even more seats, mainly across Scotland.
Based on the 2010 boundaries, and an equal allocation of an equal number of votes across the country in that election, labour would have won a 44 seat majority because of the massive pro-labour bias in the constituency boundaries.
There is a HUGE bias in the current constituency sizes and boundaries favouring labour.
We’ll see how much labour supports true equality when the coalition proposes boundary changes allowing equal sizes and weighting.
I predict that labour will scream like a stuck pig.
No it comes from research from the electoral commission in 2005 which showed immigrants voted Labour by substantial margins.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/7199457/The-deceit-of-Labours-immigration-policy.html
Good.
I’ll accommodate any pulchritudinous female humans in need
Typical leftie scunbag….all property is theft, unless its mine, in which case its a valuable asset in the fight to support the proles.
Shades of the ole commie empire, the proles dwelt in leaky high rise flats or shared rooms in houses, laughingly called apartments, whilst the apparatchiks and leaders has nice houses and country dachas to play with, along with their own shops with plenty of goods.
Monbiot is a twat.
Today i will be a door.
You are clearly unhinged.
I think Sarah can handle that.
don’t knock it
But you have no knob!
Cor! Look at the knockers on that!
Well he doesn’t ring my bell, thanks for asking.
It would appear that Monbiot is taking cues from that Guardianista’s icon, otherwise known “el comandante presidente” of Venezuela.
First they came for my house, I said nothing………..
Well, quite, one should learn the lessons of history.
In fact, Monbiot should have learned the lessons of that other left-wing intellectual colossus, Yvette Cooper. She introduced £400 Home Information Packs for houses with 4 or more bedrooms.
“But,” said the estate agents, “people will remove the beds and call the rooms ‘studies’”.
“No they won’t,” cried Mrs Balls, in her ignorance.
“Yes they will,” said the estate agents, “you have no comprehension of the housing market.”
And lo! homes acquired studies and lost bedrooms. 3 years on, Monbiot’s somewhat insane suggestion falls at the same hurdle.
Lot of bedrooms were converted to “en suite” shower or wetrooms or full bathrooms.
Stupid Scottish MOO!
I thought that other intellectual colossus Prescott had the answer.
Have House Inspectors go around and take photos of everything? Any home improvements – and having a study would be an improvement – would be photographed and stuck on the web, and the house value adjusted for council tax purposes.
I’ll open my backdoors to any man! whhhoooo
Did somebody call?
This Monbiot opinion piece isn’t driven only by stupidity, it is the product the pure evil of socialist-communist beliefs. They are just as half-baked and morally bankrupt as the crude racism of 1930s Germany.
If anyone wrote a mainstream media article stating that Nazi policies should be applied in this country, they would be widely castigated and probably arrested for incitement. Tens of millions of people died in the USSR and China as a result of the forced collectivisation and the genocide of class warfare, and yet The Guardian prints this rubbish without blinking.
The left does not care about the 50 million killed by communism in the last century, they only care about the 10 million killed by left wing national socialists because they can be re-badged by the media and education indoctrination machine as fascist right wingers.
They consider 50 million dead as a price worth paying in pursuit of equality or poverty being applied to all*.
(*except the controlling elite, of course)
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Unfortunately the Monbiots, Gores, Shaws and Pollies of this world interpret any dissent from their dicta as “predictable howls of protest from the rich and vested interests.” They are armoured by a carapace of self-esteem, able to be contemptuous of other individual men and women because they love all Mankind, capable of analytical reasoning but incapable of sympathetic understanding. They see no disjunction between their own self-interest and the Greater Good. It’s a bit like being a Renaissance cardinal or a Nazi gauleiter – you know you’re right, therefore you are right, therefore you are good.
You forgot to include the fact that they are all unmitigated bastards.
They also use the pejorative term ” Daily mail reader” which as any keen follower of student politics knows wins any argument in the same way as shouting “Keys”.
Somewhat related to the cry that Mrs. T. said “There’s no such thing as society” which trumps any argument with Lefties about the doctrinaire decrees of the Left.
Do you think they really understand what she was getting at, but prefer to misrepresent it to attract the simple sheeple?
Yeah verily their love for all Mankind surpatheth All, and reacheth out beyond all people, beyond every man, woman, child and transgendered. It transcendeth all of This and That, and knoweth not nor partaketh not of any Particular nor of any Individual nor of their wives nor chattels nor interests. It doth truly transcend beyond All Understanding. For such is the way of Evil.
George also seems confused about Council Tax, saying people living alone pay less council tax, when in fact, they pay more.
As a single occupier of a property, I would pay 75% of the council tax rate for any given property. If I was part of a couple, then the Council tax would be split between 2 people. So you can see quite clearly, single people pay more 25% more on their council tax than 2 people sharing. In a house with multiple adults, the council tax works out even cheaper.
Yes! When my father died, my mother’s council tax was reduced by 25% not 50%. I think single people do pay through the nose.
Actually, I think Guido should be less concerned about VAT and focus more on teh regressiveness of Council tax.
Council Tax is yet another of the things that working families have to pay while long term benefit claiments don’t. It sticks in my craw to like any policy of the liberal democrats, but local income tax would be a much fairer system. Every adult is liable for their share, not just use name is on the mortgage/rent agreement for Council tax.
But isn’t that exactly like Mrs T’s Poll Tax? Which everyone railled against?
Yep. Everyone had to pay their fair share. All six working adults in a house had to pay the same as the pensioner neighbour. In theory the more that chipped in then the less would be the individual cost but somehow the councils managed to increase the charge for every one.
Not everyone, cynic. The big problem is that it was introduced overnight. Families were presented suddenly with a huge increase, which, though actually fair, came as a shock to families with 2 or 3 incomes and one bill. Their biils might amount to thrice the previous one.
Had Mrs. T. by then not become rather overbearing and imperial, it could have been introduced steadily and slowly, and would have been much fairer than the present situation, which has glaring anomalies.
Here’s another example of the absurdity of council tax: I know of a school house occupied by 5 teachers, employees of the independent school which owns it and pays council tax for it. All the teachers consequently have no tax to pay. None at all.
No, it would be based on income, rather than a flat rate, which was why Thatchers Poll Tax was a disaster.
A local income income tax, based on the same rates as you pay already, would be the fairest system, with all adults paying their fair share towards the community.
Baron – by all means abolish Council Tax; the sooner, the better. Local income tax would however in no way be fairer.
The first thing that would happen with such a system would be that all the “vibrant and diverse” boroughs in the country would complain that there was no one in their borough with an income to tax and so demand that the likes of Conservative Kensington & Chelsea, Elmbridge, Waverley etc etc have funds “extracted” and transferred to “vibrant” Hackney, Haringey and the Islamic Republic of Tower Hamlets etc etc. Liberal Democrat Richmond and such like would of course be exempted from this transfer obligation on “special grounds”.
In any event, why should your income determine the level of your payment for council services? Those on higher incomes are far less likely to need anything that a local authority may “offer”.
If you insist on having drains on productivity such as local authorities, they should be paid for by those who wish to use the “services” offered up by the local authority (in a competitive open market against private contractors, thank you very much). If no one is willing to pay for their services, the local authority can just curl up and die (generally to everyone’s benefit).
If you really wish to force everyone to pay for services that they don’t necessarily need or want, then a simple, flat poll tax is the only solution that even approximates fairness. It also has the benfit of being extremely cheap to administer, so we could instantly cut council’s “revenue bureaucracy” by around 90%.
There was nothing wrong with Thatchers poll Tax, the only people against it were the leftists, and feckless who didnt want to pay their way in life.
If you have six arses shitting into the sewers at your house the tax bill should be six times a single-occupancy home. Easy as that.
You make good points some of which I had not considered before, but your first paragraph is a little misleading as this already happens due to differences in property bands, so poorer areas already get less income and greater subsidies, so it wouldn’t change that issue which ever revenue raising scheme was used.
As for the rest, not sure I agree but interesting idea to contemplate.
No one has mentioned, yet, the fact that thousands of homes are claimed to be mosques – even though they are lived in terrace houses – and surprised, they are allowed to NOT PAY council tax.
Hi Guido, i was denied ‘comment privileges’ by the Guardian recently, possibly for a regular swatting of Toynbee’s witterings. They just can’t take flak, however constructive. Moonbat was on Radio 2 a few years back, saying he uses a scythe to cut his grass, and was up against a fellow who used a petrol mower. Moonbat repeatedly called him a neanderthal, very rude. Moonbat is a good name. He is a leftie loon.
Neanderthals were more likely to have used tools akin to scythes than petrol Driven Lawn mowers.
You couldn’t make this up. Moonbat Mobiot is straight out of the socialist/communist school.
My grandmother’s greatest complaint against the communists in Poland was that after the war they comandeered two of the bedrooms of her 3 bedroom apartment for use by homeless people. She was forced to live with strangers for the rest of her life.
Here we have a real example of how “progressives” think.
Gracious! A communist more batty than either me or my illegitimate love child Bob Crow! How splendid!
“Why is this happening? I’ve spent the past few days wading through official figures to try to find out.”
Who will be the first to cast a stone against this monstrously analytical study by an Oxford educated scholar?
Fingers crossed all columnists are as diligent in their research methodology.
I wonder how much CO2 he uses commuting between his various homes? Or is it only the little people who do that?
“My guess, though I can find no research or figures either to support or disprove it, is that the richest third of the population has discovered that it can spread its wings.”
What a complete wanker.
Yes, I am a complete wanker. Do you know how I became such a complete wanker? Because I’m a proud part of the miniscule minority of fundamentalist, extremist and redistributive communist nutters who know this simple fact …
… if you’re a dysfunctional and sociopathic twat with mates in the lefty media who SHOUTS LONG ENOUGH AND LOUDLY ENOUGH ABOUT ANY OLD SHIT THAT COMES IN TO YOUR HEAD then politicians and media types of equally stunted intellect will fete you as some sort of visionary. Even though you’re just another cliched reactionary and frothing lefty twat from a privileged background!
It’s easy. Why be a part of the silent anonymous majority when you can be part of the NOISY MINORITY OF PUBLIC TWATS, despised by nearly everyone but loved by Polly Toynbee – like me! It’s a narcissist’s wet dream: you might even get on Newsnight and meet Emily Maitliss! I did and I went all shivery.
“If history could teach us anything, it would be that private property is inextricably linked with civilization.”
Ludwig von Mises
What the fuck has history to do with it, It’s all about smashing the system innit. Join us as we march on parliament square with me mates, Tarquin and Justin.
Yeah and then we can piss on that Churchill bloke what led the Nazis in Vietnam.
According to Google Earth, it seems that Moonbat’s gaff has plenty of space for a few lodgers, he could even put some up in ethically resourced and environmentally friendly yurts in his extensive grounds
“http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2010-2/1353183/mongaff.JPG
Not that I’m a convert of this ridiculous religion of human rights, but in the spirit of using their own rules against them, I’m sure that the half-wits who support this measure will be happy to know that forcibly depriving people of their property is against their human rights.
See UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Oh joy. I love beating socialists at their own game.
Might as well suggest that, after 7pm at night, all Hotel owners will be forced to give any rooms they haven’t sold that night be used by homeless people…
Can I still claim my overnight allowance in these circumstances ?
A nods as good as a wink to a blind bat old chap ; )
Guido is surprised that loonies write articles in the Garudina?
Fuck of home you French Twatt
Commies??……… chop off their knobs !!
He has the effrontery to suggest that over half of homes occupied by single people are ‘under occupied’.
I wondered who would publish such expropriatory rubbish. Step forward the Department for Communities & Local Government, which appears to have been part of John Prescott’s remaining responsibilities after 2001.
Prescott introduced Empty Dwelling Management Orders (EDMO) in 2004, so the 2008 report that Monbiot quoted from could be expected to support Prescott’s stance.
The idea that property owners can be stripped of the enjoyment of part/all their property, other than at time of war or national emergency is alarming. The fact that the person who introduced EDMOs and the person calling for action on ‘property hoarding’ both have multiple properties is IMO sickening hypocrisy.
There are around 1 million empty dwellinghouses in the UK and Prescott legislated some years ago so that local authorities could sequester them.
Unfortunately this has not delivered much benefit for a number of reasons; some being:
a) It requires a legal process which any typical Liebore authority will not have the intellectual capacity to follow; the mob-waving-sticks option having been left out of the legislation at committee stage.
b) Local authority statistics indicate a few thousand actually “homeless” and not the millions that Liebore, the press, the housebuilders, Gordon McDoom’s Barker Review etc claim; they realise it is best not to throw a spotlight on this.
c) Perhaps more tellingly it turns out that most of the empty housing stock is in the ownership of, er, government and local authorities. Which has not helped.
I’ve posted all this before. I am bored.
Wanted: hairy Albanians to share Tuscan casa rustica in exchange for light duties.
Applications to Ms Pollywallydoodle c/o Gourdien, London.
Not “hairy” surely?
Polly may profess to love the toiling classes but only if they don’t spoil the view. Any Albanian peasant permitted to serve Her Dottiness would have to be straight off a Stalinist propaganda poster: all steely eyes, chiselled jaws and without a hint of unsightly body hair.
Hi,
Moonbat is increasingly sounding like a complete nutter – the problem is that he is a dangerous nutter.
He has built a career out of being a brass necked idiot and then has hissy fits when proven to be the fool we all know he is.
Just look at the long l;ist of Politically Correct rubbish he has been involved in – ALL scams he has promoted, too stupid to realise he is being used to front the implausible which he does with much stridency.
An offensive little man who is so much more suited to the role of soviet apparatchik:
‘It is true because I say it is so it must be true mustn’t it?’
Regards,
Greg_L-W.
Why, in a period of tough spending cuts, is the taxpayer continuing to subsidise through heavy public sector advertising what is now little more than a hard left student rag?
It is the right thing to do to quote a former Prime Minister (who was not as good as Tony Blair)
Guido, hy do you call him loony left, yes he rights for the Guardian, so do Many tories and He went to the tory conference, hes never backed Laobur either,
You utter proles on this site have taken my musings completely out of context, i’ve a good mind to cycle south and stick my scythe up Mr Fawkes posterior and…..what dear?….how many outside wanting lodging,…..tell them to bugger off, NO! You tell them! ……FUCK…..get the slingshot, a barrage of polenta and sharpened lentils will see them off….[silence]…..Aaaaaah.
Well, like, saw this flyer, said come to this gaff, free food, bed an all that, like, guy were spose to be pucka nob with, like feeling for us needy an all, only get’s a eyeful of veggie tucker, proper violent that, my mate get’s maimed by subsonic polentaaaa, police turn up and fall about, i mean, fuck me, why do i pay me taxes an all, er, uh, where’s the boozer ‘ere then?
George has obviously decided that 2011 is the year he completes his descent into Marxist lunacy. He laid th e groundwork with his logic defying”global warming causes snow” article just before Christmas. Now he’s openly proposing the nationalisation of the country’s housing stock.
All we need to round this exercise off is an article that echoes the lunacies of the Tashkent Soviet in the early days. Those lads got it into their heads that because the upper and middle classes generally had prettier wives, all women should be nationalised and redistributed on a more “socially equitable” basis.
So come on George, where’s the article demanding that SamCam and all the other Tory Totties be redistributed to the workers and peasants?
Didnt realise the Moonbat was divorced …just for you george : )