That Aircraft Carrier Decision Explained
Amazingly prescient and well informed explanation from Admiral Parr:
Amazingly prescient and well informed explanation from Admiral Parr:

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Norman Tebbit has a humble brag:
“We Maastricht rebels were derided and abused for opposing the single currency by the wise, clever, Guardianista soft centre left establishment from whom we now hear so little on the matter.”

Mr Bryant and Mr Watson managing to make the whole hacking affair look like a farce – the more they moan the less I care about the whole subject! So partisan it beggars belief at all costs. They cannot rise above it ! If I was to call the PM a ‘liar’ I would want to be VERY sure.




Where’s me spinnach, err spinner, err spinikar
Shadow defence secretary Jim Murphy described the arrangement as “peculiar” and “driven by finance”.
Shadow defence secretary Jim Murphy described the arrangement as “peculiar” and “driven by finance”.
Jim – I do not want to attack an easy target but when you say driven by finance – it sort of implies that you are a c/nt.
You may not have noticed that Bliar and Brown right royally fucked the country to death with debt-
OF COURSE IT IS DRIVEN BY FINANCE
THAT IS WHOLE FUCKING POINT
SPENDING CUTS – IT IS FINANCE
Now FUCK OFF back to your comprehensive skool
I say old chap, rather, too right!
New Labour finally drags Britain behind the Third World
(I can’t be bothered arguing the whys and wherefores of our strategic needs with the clairvoyants who, from the sidelines, feel able to assure us all that no British territory will need any strategic defence capability over the next ten or twenty years).
Here is a list of countries with operable aircraft carriers:
Brazil (1)
France (1)
India (1)
Italy (2)
Russia (1)
Spain (2)
Thailand (1)
United States (11)
The UK has almost 20,000 miles of coastline, is a senior member of NATO, has a permanent seat on the UNSC, and is a nuclear power.
The financial cluster-fuck accomplished by Brown and Labour has given us a titanic white elephant of a fleet which shames us before the likes of Brazil, Thailand (FFS!), Spain and Italy.
And us!
You guys are soooooooooo weak!
One point from one sentence:
you don’t defend your own coastline with aircraft carriers.
One might note that sweden’s big cold war remit was to have aircraft that would arrive at every point of their coastline within 1 hour.
You don’t land a transporter on an enemy runway.
You don’t drive armoured vehicles across the Atlantic.
The Falkands are British.
Argentina has an air force.
“The Falkands are British”
The Falklands are the Falklands, not Great Britain.
Great Britain is an island, you twat.
The term British is used to denote nationality.
The Falkland Islands are collectively a British Overseas Territory and its people are also British.
Why don’t you take your fucked up pedantry and fuck off, spaz?
I say, are you a damned fine bedroom warrior on the quiet?
@13eastie
You were responding to the comment:
“you don’t defend your own coastline with aircraft carriers”
and then started whining about nationality of the Falkland Islanders.
If you can’t follow a simple debate then fuck off to the socialist workers you big wobble-bottomed gay simpleton.
If the cuts are driven by a lack of money caused by the last regime then WHY does the MOST IMPORTANT part of the national budget have to be cut?
Its all a great big squalid pack of lies and the tory eurostooges know exactly why they have betrayed us.
Why not cut foreign aid if defence is more important than foreign aid? Why not slash quango spending if defence is more important than quango land? Here is where the tory lies fall apart and yet nobody has yet asked Cameron these simple questions!
The government is lying through its teeth about the cuts to the Royal Navy and the real reasons for the cuts, the tories are preparing our forces for the setting up of a European armed forces. The great betrayal is underway and these traitors have so little regard for our intelligence that they actually believe their pathetic lies will fool us.
There is no need to cut the forces when other cuts could be made easily to compensate, the real aims of the Eurostooge tories is clear. The tories are betraying us all, they are lying and cheating us all out of our most basic and cherished gift, the right to an independent sovereign nation and all the while they have lied and deceived us, they fought an election based on false promises.
Calm down, dear.
I totally agree. Hague was disingenuious with the sovereignty law, as articulated by Tebbit. Why would need to legislate something that is already ours? More powers are being given to the EU since the Coalition came to office (Clegg must be pleased). Last week they quietly voted on massively increasing the EU budget, when this week we have had the embarrassment of the defense review. What is Cameron playing at!
Cameron is a fucking traitor, just like the last 2 PMs.
It really is time to test the defences of No 10 and have an impromptu conversation with him. The tea lady is more than welcome to attend both as supplier of cups of excellent tea and also as a witness that nobody was harmed during the meeting of minds.
I really thought it would be different after the election, not different and change as in Obama type clap trap. I thought Cameron would hit the ground running and prove himself as a statesman who would bat for Britain in everything.
He isn’t.
He’s a fucking fraud.
I’m furious.
I completely agree. It’s the only plausible answer. This lot are going to integrate us even further into Europe. Norman Tebbitt, writing in the DT this week, said Hague was being disingenuous and weasley wording the stance on the EU.
I was prepared to give this Coalition a chance but I don’t know what to make of it all. There is also some story they are going to announce spending billions on the almighty scam that is “Climate Change”.
errrrrrrr Isnt a defense review supposed to be about defense !!!!!!!
These days it’s largely about attack. There isn’t any military threat to GB and if the forces were reduced by 90%, it wouldn’t matter.
In fact, not attacking foreign countries would reduce any threat even further.
12…Lord Wayne.
Enjoy being a Cameron apologist….arrrr bless
The carriers were only ordered to bribe liebor’s jock supporters with so called jobs.
One of the carriers should be named after the greatest prime minister since Churchill-”H.M.S. Gordon Brown” saviour of the world.
It strikes me that Blair has not suffered any consequences for his total ineptitude of running the country into the ground. The MI5 budget quadroupled because of the invasion of Iraq and “home grown” terrorism- created by Blair’s mass immigration.
Was it Hoon, Hutton or the last Liebour defense twat, who asked a question in the H of C today, the genious behind the contracts for building aircraft carriers without aeroplanes?
I find the defense review embarrassing. To make matters worse, French or American planes will be used on the ships. The gutless Cameron will be indebted to these countries and what will they expect in return? Beach it near Iran? These slug type people, who fiddled their expenses, then used taxpayers money to attempt to deny us seeing their improper deeds are still being paid by us for these sort of decisions. The stupid Harperson is still being paid giving stupid grins on the front bench of the opposition. Who on earth voted for twats like these?
Fck it, our borders are wide open to the terrorists of the world, they freely change our culture, use legal aid to challenge any criticism, deportation orders, claim racisim and scrounge of us to live a luxurious life. Why do we need any military, we have been over ran and we are viewed as a joke by the rest of the world. Blair should be proud of himself when he sits in the sun earning millions from his treachorous deeds while thousands died and many more thousands are coming to terms with their plight from the Iraq war. He needs to investigated, prosecuted and imprisoned. His assets seized, including the homes he bought for his children, and the proceeeds given to the widows and wounded of the war. Closely followed by those who supported him in cabinet ie Straw, Brown and Hoon.
“I find the defense review embarrassing. To make matters worse, French or American planes will be used on the ships.”
Yes, it is rather embarrassing but I fail to see how you have the energy to get worked up about a few planes landing on a couple of ships.
I find it much more embarrassing that this country is home to muslims, you know, the people who are programmed to kill non-believers, programmed even to stone their women, hang people whose sexual orientation they find offensive and kill members of their own family over ‘honour’.
Even more embarrassing and hard to stomach is that we are told to bend over backwards to accommodate them. It’s embarrassing that all council literature appears in 99 different languages at our expense. I find it embarrassing that the English culture and language has been diluted and relegated in my own country.
After a while my embarrassment turns to rage.
Still, carry on worrying about a few Top Guns landing on our carriers if you want. A more pressing concern of mine is that people who wish damage to the fabric and history of this country are already here. No amount of aircraft carriers and planes will make any difference. They keep breeding, arriving and living in their own little shitty ever-increasing enclaves and marginalise the others.
Oh ffs Guido, what on earth is wrong with the above?
I thought it was rather splendid!
Blair IMO was a very good PM but he was badly (very badly) let down by Brown.
In which case then, he wasn’t a very good PM- was he?
Blair was a total disgrace.
Blair should have sacked Brown the very first time Brown gave him grief.
Bliar was a very good PM!!
FFS – our nation is fucked you dimwit, and that tosser plaid no small part in our downfall
Dave should have scrapped the RAF.
That would be insane.
I agree, the RAF is hardly an armed service, with 90% of the fat airmen (and woman) not even serving overseas. DHL takes on a riskier job these days and has less delays.
What job do you do tough guy? Accountant?
Certainly makes sense to base our troops out of Germany and back into Blighty. Makes no sense why the German economy should benefit from our defence budget.
Quite right. We need that money to give to the americans.
Don’t forget the French farmers
And Spanish drivers.
Don’t forget the Spanish road infrastructure. Where was the last road built courtesy of the EU in the UK?
Ah, who cares about the carriers, the most important thing is the BBC are REALLY angry that the coalition has forced them to have a six year BBC tax freeze.
Why do they think that this is a cut in their budget…. unless they were thinking they were entitled to a never ending increase.
Funny in how during Treasury questions in the Commons today Ken Clarke was asked if they would stop sending people to prison for not paying the BBC tax, but “the coalition had not thought about that” was fatso’s reply.
Nick Robinson telling George Alagiah about the private feelings of BBC employees and putting them ahead of the public. “Who will be losing their jobs to fund the 16% real terms cut?”
Well there were two right there who should be straight down to the dole office. Followed by the rest of the BBC news team
According to toenails on Newsnight, the Condems bottled out of giving the BBC a 25% cut.
Shame.
I am very disappointed that Dave did not think outside the box.
Although he Blames Gordon for committing us to two new carriers an order that we can not cancel. He also says that we need a carrier at sea at all times but we must do without for 10 years.
So instead of scrapping the Ark Royal to save money yet maintaining foreign aid Why didn’t Dave make the Ark Royal our foreign aid?
That ship could visit destitute countries providing them with medical assistance, technical assistance, practical assistance, fresh water, food, electricity and protection from baddies.
Think outside the Box Dave
That’s really a very good idea. The Ark Royal could sail the severn seas just to cheer up Johnny Foreigner. We could put some celebs on it and they could do concerts and things.
We could send Bruccie!
At least Fay Turney and Mr Bean would still have a job and if we needed an aircraft carrier quick then we would have one. Makes no sense to hand out hard cash in foreign aid when we could have good insurance.
PS Have heard it said this foreign aid vstuff is actually a EU obligtion.and we have no choice anyway.
Source, please?
“PS Have heard it said this foreign aid vstuff is actually a EU obligtion.and we have no choice anyway.”
Bollocks. The UK is a sovereign nation. It does not have any obligations to the EU whatsoever. We have all the choices we need. That the powers in Westminster choose not to exercise any of the more prudent ones is a different matter.
Westminster needs cleansing.
Faye Turney wont need a job having just got about 200k hand out for some reason or other from the MOD. any one know if this is TRUE.
Why not just slash the social security budget, I mean, for a start the child benefit has raised exponentially under Labour to buy votes. slash that or better yet scrap it altogether. The social security budget is so huge it is easy pickings.
Slash the NHS budget, no, not the front line, the management. Same goes in councils which have a huge amount of management. Curtail the pay the council executives give themselves to £100k or less.
There are LOTS of good cuts that can be made, but the Tories are Blue Labour, they are chicken. They are not a real Conservative party. I know I wasted my vote.
UKIP next time then?
Nah, most people are too chicken shit to open their eyes and see what is happening to them.
So lets get this straight. The previous bunch of Labour Hoons cooked up a contract so crooked that if the Government cancelled the order for 2 aircraft carriers the cost would be even greater than if it proceeded. What Fuckwit authorised this. Whay aren’t the Police or the Serious Fraud Office investigating this crap. THIS STINKS!!!!!
And as for aircraft carrirers without aeroplanes. Dont make laugh please. Makes as much sense as saying that you are a Conservative and that you are in Europe but not run by Europe. Its Bollocks. The whole situation will be used as a pretext to create an EU carrier Force, which was really their objective all along. Traitors one and all. The ebtire political class has Rogered us senseless!!
BAE played the old jobs card. The unions wouldn’t like it if carriers were scrapped and jobs were lost, and the politicos wouldn’t like it either, due to the effect on their electorate.
It’s only the poor old tax-payer who gives a shit.
The poor old taxpayer most certainly gives a shit.
I predict a riot.
As my old mate Winston Churchill said: “I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.”
The Admiral Duncan?
clasic there is a whole series of these on you tube
Holy crap.
They too spent all their money on the boat and have a c r a p plane.
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Excellent, it gives the” Man on the Clapham Omnibus” some sort insight into way armed forces higher ups and politicians think, to me it starts to come out like the radio comedy series on the Beeb 50 years ago, “The Navy Lark” if anyone is old enough to remember it, things do not seem to change, a bit like the warehouse full of horse shoes that was suddenly noticed.
Left hand down a bit.
No up a bit, no right hand down a bit, oh lumley
Also forgot to mention the American short take off and yet unproven fighter which is going to be bought how are we going to pay for them, especially if the pound shrinks even further.
It only took us 60 years to pay it off last time we borrowed money from the Americans.
Also forgot the number of Admirals, Vice Ads, Commodores, soon they will be sharing rowing boats, how much does an Admiral cost per year, Rome could not have conquered half the known world if its armies were as top heavy.
Well we can sack all the admirals for a start. That should save a bomb
The dollar is shrinking much faster, thanks to Obama, Congress and the Fed. They are looking at another 700 billion dollars of QE to stimulate the foreign bankers bonuses further.
Sir or Madam forgets that the USD may lose value relative to the pound in the meanwhile. And surely they will owe us compensation once the 500-degree heat melts our lovely new warships (see John Bird above).
Nah, the excessive engine heat doesn’t matter cos our global warming commitments will stop us using them until we can power them by windmills, muesli and fermented cow shit
Bloody Dave is at it again.
International Aid UP.
This guy and his cronies have to go pronto.
Everytime you clap your hands, a third world dictator gets a diamond encrusted Mercedes, courtesy of the DFID and money extorted from British taxpayers.
Then stop fucking clapping!
It’s got to the point that whenever I see or hear Cameron and the rest of his Tory shysters opening their gobs then I am overcome by involuntary projectile puking. They literally make me sick! Whenever Osborne, Gove or Cameron witter on about “fairness” and why lower paid workers shouldn’t have to subsidise higher earners then I have an uncontrollable urge to stamp on their nuts till the end of time. Redistributive, socialist nonsense worthy of Harman at her finest.
Worker A earning £45k pa pays £7.9k in tax, £4.2k in NI and the company employing him pays £5k in Employers NI. So a total of over £17k gets paid into the public pot as a result of Worker A. Worker B on £20k ends up putting just over £6k into the pot . Worker C on £12k about £2.6k.
How the fuck in all that is holy can Worker A be subsidised by Workers B & C ?
The Tory party as the party of aspiration and for those who want to better themselves now cease to exist. Terminate with extreme prejudice!
Hear hear!
They’re all in it together though.
The Big(ger) Society is that outside the doors to Westminster.
Fuck ‘em all.
er…
How’s that hopey changey thing working out for ya?
*chortle*
I’m missing your point – did you write a few bits of that wrong it didn’t logically flow very well?
When it comes to the “should the rich get benefits” argument I have always said that the rich should be ignored by the state except in unavoidable circumstances.
By that, what I mean is – forgetting all the dross socialists numpties in the world, lets pretend that a rich man pays £4000 into a benefits system, the state spends £2000 means testing him, then gives him £2000 back. A very simple value-stream-map will show you that.
The less people on benefits – the less people vote for socialists.
FEWER, ffs.
There are a lot more Worker B and Cs than As.
“Bloody Dave is at it again.
International Aid UP”
They are all as useless as the previous cretins and a lot of people know that.
I pass the blue plaque in your honour at the site of your birth, St Olave’s Hospital in Rotherhithe nearly every day.
The trouble with the English Heritage official blue plaque scheme is that not only do you have to be dead to merit one, the relevant building must still be standing.
Southwark council therefore invented its own scheme, inviting nominations for local heroes, dead or alive, from borough residents and anyone else who cared to log on to its website.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1165267.ece – paywall free
If I owned a cap I’d doff it.
Like giving money to a drug addict.
hey gents
I am not working today so if anyone else fancies working the bins behind old st waitrose – be my guest.
That is all.
Red Ed’s response to CMD is all over the place.
Yvette is ugly
He really is.
I think I probably would, though. I dunno – jury’s deliberating a bit, but yeah, probably. Oh, for shame.
I would, but i wouldn’t tell my mates about it.
She looked really bonny after being given the shadow FCO gig and it was just a momentary stirring in the pant department. She’s probably got a bit of a Kylie frame too.
@CP – yeah, defo don’t tell any mates about it. I’m off for a cold shower and some self flaggelation.
You’d have to tell the doc at the clap clinic though
I would – she’s got that cheap n tacky lady-boy thing going for her
Doesn’t matter if she is face down taking it up the a**e.
Of course you all would, if only because it might annoy Ed Balls when he found out.
Fair point…
She reminds me of Janet Leigh in Psycho.
http://tinyurl.com/5vjc82
“Ed – put the knife DOWN!”
What the hell is he on.
I’ve only watched Ed twice….once at last week’s PMQs and to-day but he seems to have an annoying habit of standing at the Dispatch Box as the Government Benches heckle him and nodding his head and trying to stare them out whilst saying “Yes ! Yes !”
As for Harriet she looked as if she’d sucked on a lemon and Yvette just looked miserable. I can put up with an ugly woman but not a bloody miserable one
I’m sure Militwat said “oh yes” quite a few times too. He has been watching too many old film reels of John Major.
I’m sure Militwat said “oh yes” quite a few times too. He has been watching too many old film reels of John Major.
Oh yes!
Red Ed looks as if drools and dribbles a lot. He has such a slack mouth.
He’s a boss-eyed idiot too. Hardly material worthy of representing the UK on the international stage.
What would happen if Arnie met Eddy? There’s only one way to find out…
Not bad value they only cost as much to build as the beeb soaks up in one year, are you thinking what i’m thinking.
No I am not paying a licence fee for a feckin aircraft carrier as well
Couldn’t they carry advertising?
Brilliant: who do you think would want to sponsor our fighter planes – it could be a bigger earner for us than F1 is for Bernie Ecclestone..
Fuck me!
Scrap the BBC and we could rule the world within a decade or two!!
Thats not what i’m thinking
Talking of money soaks reminds me, your cheque today for £50,000,000 was ten minutes late. Make sure it’s on time tomorrow suckers.
Are you thinking what I am thinking?
I think so….what do you think?
Military men can’t manage money.
Neither can politicians…
Or Bankers
We should give all our money to the civil service as look at all the money they have to use,even better would be the MOD as they have a PFI building to maintain.
Have you any idea how much our admin costs are? It costs a bloody fortune to run this place. You know paying 80,000+ administrators doesn’t come cheap. Anyway, must dash, off to the relaxation and chill out zone, I am sooo stressed today…
Dear MOD Spokesperson,
If you didn’t insist on carrying out orders to bomb the shit out of people who would rather you weren’t in their back yard life wouldn’t be so stressful.
Love & kisses.
Jeez cast iron is really a smarmy b$stard.
How dare you.
We’re all in this together don’t forget. Well, actually it’s you lot that are in it up to your necks.
But never mind. Look on the bright side; your betters in the political and business classes will be OK.
Too right
I sat near the Duchess at tea
She asked, “Do you fart when you pee?”
I said with some wit
“Do you belch when you shit?”
And felt that was one up for me
Bloody excellent !
I prefer your String Of Pearls and Little Brown Jug.
Even better is Peston’s explanation:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2010/10/what_a_carrier_on.html
How long until he’s chucked out…?
Gordon’s favourite journalist……..
Powered armour for the Squaddies is what’s needed.
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Liquid lunch, AC1?
His back dated giro arrived this morning so its Peroni’s galore instead of the usual Tennants.
Just a thought; if a 100 MBTs are to be scrapped, why dont we scrap them in in The Sand Pit? hell of an improvement over snatch landrovers I would have thought and that 120mm smoothbore firing canister rounds would keep a few heads down…….I don’t know how big the IEDs are in Afganistan these days but they’d have to be bloody big to disable a Challenger.
let us not forget that it was Peston that contributed to the financial crisis in the first place with his speculation and his bull shit…
Hunt…
You mean Peston the Common Purpose Hoon. Check out his wikipedia entry!
A relative of mine is a senior fund manager in the city. Peston worked with him at de Broe where, he assures me, dear old Robert acted in such a way as to suggest he has a head full of shit.
We don’t need an aircraft carrier, or a nuclear deterrent or any military spending. Let’s give peace a chance.
Prick
Good idea.
Obama Bin Laden hasn’t got much in the way of deterrents however nobody can catch him, bomb him or even know where the hell he is and is perfectly capable of getting what he wants. He seems to be doing quite well without them in fact. Less is more.
I think CallMeDave should give him a call and get some advice.
The US should call the BBC and tell them he hasn’t paid his telly tax. They’d track him down soon enough.
FFS Ben Laden is dead and has been for a long long time. He only is resurrected when someone or something has to be bombed. CIA can resurrect him at any time, especially if an election is imminent or there is gathering discord about the war on terrorism.
Bin Laden is alive and well, living in comfort and luxury, courtesy of our client-state Pakistan. It is always necessary for western democracies to have a key ‘bogey-man’ in order to enable the continued extraction of taxes and the curtailment of civil liberties.
After the Kaiser came Hitler, then Stalin, then Castro, then Communism generally, then Ayatollah Khomeni, Saddam Hussein, now Bin Laden. But never fear, whenever Osama B-L ceases to provide the cover, some other convenient bogey-man will be created, and so it goes on.
The corporate arms industry cannot function without targets – so they just create a new target and our money continues to flow their way. The politicians are only corrupt dupes in this game. T’was ever thus.
What an excellent comment. I cannot agree more.
Just pissed,peace ,how the hell to we lower the gene pool with peace,how the hell do we make money to enable twits like you to spout things about peace,how the hell do we speed up technology with peace,technology triples when were are at war and doubles when we have skirmishes,all we get is people out of work with peace,war does a few things,the DNA pool gets smaller,more work for whose left,technology brings new things to sell when we eventually get peace.
Are you saying millions of deaths due to war over centuries is a justifiable ‘expense’ in the quest of humanity to ‘better’ itself?
It’s a pity the gene puddle you share didn’t dry up before the last ice age.
Are you really pissed?
Failing war, plague. The people who survived the Black Death benefitted from an unexpected redistribution of resources and kickstarted Europe’s emergence from the Dark Ages. Source=James Burke.
WTF!
Hardly on the same spectrum, Source, please? You know it too.
I wish Westminster would get the bloody plague.
All your bases are belong to us!
Are they fuck
Excellent sketch, they really nailed it. Call me Dave talked a good game however whatever way you look at it a Conservative PM is massively cutting Defence spending. Call me old fashioned but I dont think thats why people vote Conservative!
Call me old fashioned, but ordering two aircraft carriers with contracts that cost the public more if they’re cancelled than if they’re built is a funny way of acting in the best interests of the country. It’s funny watching Labour squirm trying to find something to say now that their fox has been shot by the coalition.
We’re still not allowed to hunt foxes you know! I thought CallMeDave was going to re-open the debate on all this nonsense.
Just like he said he would about our relationship with the EU.And what about repealing the smoking ban in the interests of individual freedom of choice ?
The fuckers in the House made sure that idea would be well and truly put on the back burner last week.
Where’s a good Whip when you need one? Ah yes, defrauding the taxpayer and acting in their own self-interest as usual.
Ordering aircaft carriers without any fucking aircraft…
Even the Somalis do not do things like that..
The Goon Brown and Grining Ape Blair made decisions that cost us TENS O>F BILLIONS and don’t even work…
And leave us without any stirk capability for a decade…
Try the bastards for putting the nation’s defence in peril…
They are traitors….
Correct!
Labour are like drunk drivers that cause a crash and then start kicking the shit out of the paramedics who are trying to save the victims.
Labour are nasty treasonous bastards, one and all.
Seconded MI5 You are a rock of sense. Fuck the EU and Foreign Aid (aka slush funds for nasty shitty dictators) The people of Britain demand proper defences. Lets revolt like the French. I’ll even stop applying my anti persipirant if it would help me get in the mood!!
ce qui ?
Tories cut the defence spending just before the Falklands war, it’s what gave the Argentine Junta the green light to try their luck….and this was still at the height of the cold war.
They didn’t leave the MOD with a £38 billion deficit, though.
Listen hear you lot – after 13 [THIRTEEN] years of Labour’s lunacy, you try and sort this financial mess out. Some folks have very short memories. If you want Labour back, keep whinging. I’m sure they’ll oblige and finish this country off next time.
I don’t want Labour back, I want my fucking country back, and that means running you party tribalists and your shit Liblabcon crooks and traitors out of town.
I too am an economist. I vill come and help you sort out ze country’s finances vis my Labour friends ja?
Verpiβ dich, du blütige Arschloch.
Do you want me to come back as PM?
If you promise to handbag the fuckers in the EU then yes, yes, yes!
If you promise to handbag the muzzies here then yes, yes, yes!
Senile or not, you’d do a better job than all of the 646 combined.
yes please – double or quits – our airforce vs your ships but no aircover this time
BobAinsworthMP tweets:
In HOC dodgy Dave pretends delaying deterrent don’t put up the price and nimrod cancellation don’t make it vulnerable
What a cnut
…with all the literacy you’d expect from a Shop Steward in the Trim Shop at Jaguar.
With a cretin like that in charge, is it any wonder we’re in the shit?
I AM A DEFICIT DENIER AS WELL
Debt seven point nine Trillion and growing, Osbo and Fable are going to cut down on biscuits in the staff canteen. That should do it.
They’re just worried they’ll be next in the soggy biscuit competition.
The biggest, hardest and deepest cuts will be applied to your disgraceful necks.
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PIP PIP
A EYE FOUR A EYE
A PENNY FOUR YORE THORTSZ,
A DRRHOP IN DA OSHAN BLHOOUE,,
TOLL ME IN MY AOUWHELD BLAKQUE PENNY
TOLL OUEE IN AOUW*ER KHOPPA TREW
MON SQRUE DRYVA
MON LOOSE SKREW* TWHOO FFHOLLO
MYNE PROPSHAFTA IS AWL AYERYSH
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/U213864
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Wouldn’t it be cheaper to invest about £30 a year in archiving the collective speeches of Harriet Harman. That would bore any potential enemy to death and save 38billion per year. No seriously this is a disaster we need a bigger army not smaller. The other forces are about right!
Price List
Dry rot treatment….£20000
Blow job…….£7.50
Tit wank…….£5.00
The above with swallow….add 50p
Brown bummed the economy a big fucking baboon until it’s sphincter split
Can we have the 2 aircraft carriers named HMS Gordon Brown and HMS Tony Blair? To honour the incompetence of their namesakes…preferably with the one scheduled for decommissioning after 3 years (without deploying a single fighter) named after the one-eyed Scottish twat who lasted about the same time and was just as useless…
It would only take two exocets for Davy Jones locker.
Which of course the French would be only to happy to supply to any passing “Argie” Junta
Alan Johnson is reading Deficit Denial For Dummies and How To Lie Your Way Out Of Recession written by U N Hinged
“There is not money left, good luck”
Liam Burne.
When the coffers are empty, you have to stop spending.
Why ??
Come here little Davy
Help with our EU navy
You will get a get some gravy
When the boat comes in
Any ladies paralysed from the neck down wanna be touched up? Oh my pwincess, give me a chance. XXX
An American friend once said to me, as he remarked on the death of the United Kingdom, “Watching the UK is like watching Rome turn into Italy”.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/margolis/margolis210.html
We even have the barbarian hoards in place ready to divi up the country when the time’s right.
The only comfort will be the knowledge that almost ever other western country will be in the same boat. Even the great USA will be suffering demographic change and a slide to third world status and social disorder.
I seriously doubt there will still be 50 states in the US in 50 years time.
I think Japan is the only major economy that has consistently refused mass immigration despite their declining birth rate and economic problems. They may be in the shit at the moment but I think they will benefit in the long term.
The parasites will all slither off once Britain’s corpse has been picked dry.
Your friend is a plagiarist. The original quotation comes from Paul Theroux who said that the British were Romans in the process of becoming Italians.
I want Paul Theroux’s babies. Paul never does any magic in the bedroom department.
Why was the above modded? You’re turning into Iain Dale quicker than I previously thought.
I read a post somewhere else saying that we should name these 2 white elephants “HMS Gordon Brown” and “HMS Tony Blair” and sell them off to some oil rich arab to turn them into theme parks.
@45
Oh, someone else saw it too.
A while back, someone had the genius idea of calling them the ] HMS Boom and HMS Bust, respectively. Aside from the militarism implied in the word ‘boom’, I cannot think why this disappeared.
We’re being softened up for the next step of the EU cancer- an EU defence force.
B,B&F really got it just right!
Send the harriers to the French refineries!
Ed Miliband poll bounce = the feeblest for any new Labour leader for more than half a century.
Just you wait !!! Lord Kinnockio says I am brilliant.
Doesn’t Kinnocks daughter work for Ed Millitwat?
It wouldn’t surprise me. I wonder whether she uses the same accountant as Kinnock’s son.
Aye Lad, this pigswill is bludy marvelous.
If a class does badly in a test, then the teacher has failed.
If a man dies on the operating table, then the surgeon has failed.
If a country goes completely bakrupt, then the government has failed.
If a British aid worker has returned home safely, the US military has failed.
Thanks but no thanks.
He has been to the same hand and arm waving course as all the other bloody wasters in Westminster have.
Can you see what it is yet? It’s bullshit!
WTF!
How much does a big stick cost?
How much wood can a Woodchuck chuck?
Couldn’t we get James May to build some out of Meccano and Lego?
Sky News reporting that the World Service no longer to be funded by the FO and the TV licence fee to be frozen for 6 years.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Moniker chopped off in its prime…
Excellent news! Bravo, more of this please etc.
Any chance the corrupt arseholes in Brussels will get their British originated funding removed? Ah, ok… FUCK!
Oh dear. The Severn Barrage yesterday, and the defence training academy at St. Athan today. Both cancelled. Not a great day for our Welsh friends. Although both were prohibitively expensive from day 1 and were never going to run to completion. Just provided hot air to make politicians look good.
move all training facilities to wales ffs in six months half the armed forces would be on the “sick”
Our current and most recent deployments have been in deserts and tropical areas, so we were going to train personnel in….Wales?
If you have ever seen “carry on up the khyber” you’ll know that afganistan looks just like north wales.
But once the local had introduced them to the delights of soft and woolly sheep, you’d never get them back to camel-humping with all that inconveniently painful sand.
The barrage would have been an environmental disaster.
Fish and other Severn dwelling creatures aren’t as stupid as you. They’d work it all out sooner or later. Rather like we have with natural changes in temperatures over millennia.
Don’t tell the ardent warmistas such as CallMeDave and Gore though. They might throw their toys out of the pram when they realise they can’t raise taxes to ‘protect’ us from nature.
TOP SECRET
We signed a whole looad of unfunded contracts (estimate £ 51 billion)
We did not know what we were doing
It will cost as much to cancel them as to execute them.
So lie low with the Tories and Libdems…
THIS IS A HUGE SCANDAL
TRY TO COVER IT UP
CALL THE BBC..
(Along with about £ 2 trillion we pissed up the wall in other Departments to try and get reelected)
PS This is worse than a Ponzi Scheme comrades…
hahaha yes the good old days…
Always remember, party first country last komrade!
Hello boys and girls
I’m so bloody rich now you would not believe it
And we shorted sterling you know at Morgan Stanely where I am paid £ 5 million to offer my contacts…
Even Slotgob is happy – and that takes some doing
But the best of all is that the French love me..
I signed those Blaircaft Carrier deals which cost more to cancel than to build…
Lots of “consullting” work with the French at the moment..
toodle pip…
And you know I’m non-dom now so fook you all with your tax increases…
Is it true you buy Slotgob a new pair of shoes every day? Wouldn’t that money be put to better use by getting your fat daughter some lipo?
And a paper bag too, she’s one ugly fucker that’s for sure!
Come on chaps, that just isn’t cricket. She’s a lovely gal.
Look on the bright side we’ve still got HMS Victory and its CO2 friendly.
Time to recommission the Mary Rose, perhaps ?
We used to have the Cutty Sark, but I seem to remember that producing rather a lot of CO2………..
Only CO2 that was there originally but then released rather quicker than planned.
That was down to Phil the Greek – allegedly.
The Battle of Britain Memorial Flight stands ready for action, sir. Just need to find a couple of bouncing bombs somewhere.
I’ve got the bombs if you’ve got the time.
Unfortunately they are hard wired to hit the Palace of Westminster. They do look rather marvellous as they bounce over various bridges on the way though.
Catching up with the news it seems the thing that’s got the public riled the most is the heinous crime of putting a cat in a bin.
And I note a police spokesman after the prince murders servant verdict claiming that you can’t escape justice in Britain ‘whoever you are’. Hmmm…
Oh and rooney’s going, man u’s strike force now on par with armed forces
Quite. The cat is recyclable and should not have gone in the green wheelie bin.
A £250 fine for fifteen hours in a wheelie-bin works out at £16.66 per hour. I know people who would take that job….
I’d take a job in cat disposal for less than the minimum wage…
Does volunteering for cat disposal duties count as a contribution to the Big Society?
It does in my book. No more disgusting piles of cat poo in non cat-owning neighbouring gardens (would have saved me eighty quid on that sonic cat-zapper), millions of little wild/urban creatures saved, relief from the frustrated disdain at the checkout seeing that some tv ad sucker saddo in front has spent a fortune on ‘gourmet’ cat slush, not having to avert your eyes from the litter trays that people (inexplicably) seem to have under their kitchen tables, and no exposure to cat photos fondly brandished by lonely menopausal women at work. Bliss.
A good way to deal with vermin is to turn it into a gourmet delicacy, as with North American crayfish, rabbits, and in some places, grey squirrels. We need some decent recipes – cat au vin, chilli con catne, steak catare, that sort of thing. (Could even cook up some mouseaka to bait the traps with.)
Steack Chat-haut-briand?
Why and how has the Saudi Royal pervert (grandson of the Saudi king) and murderer managed to prevent the usual plod mug shot being plastered far and wide?
How much money / BAE contracts / etc have been discussed at ‘high’ levels?
In case you missed it —> http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/slideshow/ALeqM5h0ZMg0HnThGf-bdGcINiHb4hiDeg?docId=CNG.187f08033fe68c98d16032a3c93790a9.621&index=0&ned=uk
Homosexuality is punishable by death in Saudi Arabia. He should be deported to serve the rest of his sentence.
The cancellation of the Nimrod means that the UK now has no fixed wing Search and Rescue aircraft able to mount a search offshore, we will be completely reliant on helicopters with shorter range. Also it is normal to give “top cover” to a helicopter going out into the Atlantic so they have help on hand if they ditch, the fixed wing aircraft can also guide them straight to the vessel in distress to save time.
Go offshore at your peril then.
So the Nimrods in the air at this moment have been recalled?
Blame Brown. He wasted all the money.
Plenty of money for quangos and foreign aid and the NHS and education and yuman rights and the EU.
So Brown didnt spend all the money after all did he? There is plenty of money to spend on defence its the will and the priorities of the coalition that are the driving force of the great betrayal.
I know you have to field the excuses provided for you from CCHQ and change your moniker each time but lets be clear here, we do know what the real game is and blaming Brown for the tories betrayal is not a little pathetic.
The bloody things are flying death traps anyway. The new version was reusing the 40 + year old airframes from the original. Why dont they just buy something decent off the shelf instead of messing around with a pile of old junk that started out as the De Haviland Comet.
There isn’t anything on the shelf, anywhere. The yanks are developing a replacement for the aging Orion, but that’s years away. MR capability is V expensive but nobody’s mentioned the ‘soft skills’ that will be lost in the meantime. The RAF were THE best at Maritime Patrol tactics – bar none. Find, fix, strike, kill, not: find, fail to fix, lost contact, stumble around for a bit………..
“So the Nimrods in the air at this moment have been recalled?”
What Nimrods? The MR2 were retired in March, there are three(?) R1 SIGINT Nimrods which will be retired next March.
Traitor Tories, at it again.
If they love those nice young French sailors so much Fuc* off over there and stay.
Last time they get my vote. Fuvking scum
Poor Bill, I think your blog name just about sums you up.
Nimrod canceled. Eventually. An upgrade of old airframes rather than fully modern ones ordered by a Conservative Government in 1996 that in 13 years Labour didn’t seem interested in either giving it the heave ho or a kick up the arse.
It should never have taken so long. It should never have been so costly.
Regarding carriers this is all part of the European Integration of armed forces. Our representatives pretend that they are retaining interoperability (like NATO) but what they are implementing is interdependence. British carriers with French aircraft and utterly reliant on Dutch, Spanish, German etc nations to provide escort ships. They’ll not be sailing anywhere without complete agreement and so won’t be sailing anywhere.
Defence needn’t be this expensive and wasteful but Parliament has seen fit to treat the MoD as a distant quango.
Suddenly, every fucker is an expert on defence.
Suspect that when Guido checks the IP addresses, there are a lot of comments emanating from a single server. It would surprise nobody if that server turned out to be used by the Labour party in some capacity or other….
I think you may have a good point Engineer.
I am no Tory but you seem rather paranoid, more so than usual.
Yes, ‘cos if you don’t love the Tories, you’re Labour!
Has Sion Simon had a child?
That demon eyes poster about Blair could have been designed for Dave, he is the UKs most dangerous enemy to date.
Welcome to the federal EU courtesy of the honest Dave and his band of traitors, selling the UK down the river and betraying us all.
How can you tell the difference between Gordon Brown and David Cameron?
One is a lying cheating traitor and the other thinks he is saviour of the planet.
How can you tell Cameron is lying? his mouth opens.
Cassandra: How can you tell you’re a Labour Party activist? You talk utter shite!
Dream on CiC I hate labour as much as I hate this fake eurostooge party formerly known as the tory party.
So you know the truth now and you cannot deny the evidence before your eyes, Cameron betrayed you(if you are a tory)and Cameron has lied to you about his intentions.
So tell me CiC, do you want to see the UK as a region of the federal EU and are you happy to see the UK reduced to a mere vassal region with its armed forces forming part of the new federal EU armed forces?
So lets be honest and open about who is talking shite shall we? The CONservative party denied us a referendum on Europe after lying to us about it, the approved extra funding to the EU even as they slash defence spending, they lied about the quango cull and now the evidence is clear that they are traitors selling the UK into servitude. You either agree that the UK should become a region of the EU or you think the UK should be a sovereign independent nation reflecting the will of the British people, if its the former you are no right wing real tory and if its the latter you should be ripping up your party card right now.
Ooooh er! get her! Get a life Ms King – outside of blogging on Guido.
Toenails announces:
The BBC licence fee is to be freezed for 6 years.
Don’t worry you can save all the money by sacking Toenails and Marr.
Would work out at a real-terms budget cut of 16%, he claimed.
About time the BBC started living in the real world.
More from Toenails:
The BBC will also take over the cost of the World Service and Monitoring Service, currently funded by the Foreign Office, and pay the government’s contribution to funding the Welsh-language channel S4C
Maybe they can sack a number of the Today presenters and give Stephanie Flanders back to the Labour party to make up the balance.
Wouldn’t worry Marr too much now – since the child maintenance stopped he’s been feeling quite flush.
She was a legend! Rest In Peace.
What will happen to the 42,000 who will lose their jobs.
Early retirement with added years to their pension entitlements, or a juicy voluntary redundancy package.
So how is paying someone to do nothing better than paying someone to do something?
They will get one of the 2,000,000 jobs that lower taxes will allow the private sector to create.
It’s better because:
you pay them less
they weren’t doing a real job anyway
they were probably counter-productive
they were part of the State who like to stick their noses into our lives
For the stupid of Fleet Street I will explain the reasoning behind the decision on the new Carriers.
Let me take you back to 1999, in the outer offices of FOST Plymouth. ( Flag Officer Sea Training )
Chatting about defence cuts due.
“ No Plymouth is staying. It is already marked down as the main training facility of the Euro-Navy, Dartmouth and Portsmouth will go first.”
“Bollocks, the Admirals retire to Dartmouth and will never give it up and in a choice between Plymouth and Portsmouth we all know you can only get to a show in the Smoke and back in one night from Pompey.”
“No the long term decisions have been made. Guzz will be FOST north-Europe. The three carriers will be built but the third is going to be run by the Germans.”
“Fuck off.”
“We know we need three to keep one at sea, so we get three but one will carry a German Flight”.
“Fuck off”
“No think about it, the Germans have no carrier experience, they can gain that on this carrier and then supply a carrier of their own towards the Euro-fleet”.
Well now we will have a spare Carrier, I wonder who will volunteer to help us man it ?
I am hoping that someone will open a book on it, Paddy Power may be ? I’ve got a grand for that bet.
( The French Carrier being nuclear powered will of course be the Flag Ship of the Euro-Fleet.)
Even if it is Fuc*ed. ( Fleet street knows this already )
While I’m here one more thing.
The primary foreign policy objective of (some, you know who) Europeans is the recovery of the still occupied areas of Eastern Europe.
That’s East Prussia to you. Kaliningrad to the enemy.
Good Luck !
They don’t make ‘em like that anymore.
I thought all these announcements were to be made to the Commons first in this new cleaned up Parliament.
It might have escaped you, but they were.
Eh?
What did Dave say this afternoon that had not already been leaked?
You need to upgrade your specs, deaf aid and brain if you have one.
Why has the BBC got so many channels?
All they need is BBC1 BBC2 BBC News & Radios 123 and 4
And What’s more they can switch off at midnight after playing the national Anthem and start up again at 6 am.
Here here!
Nope the beeb is useless at news. It’s simply a leftwing biased mouthpiece for the labour party.
It needs to stick to historical drama and the natural world and we don’t need to be paying a license fee for it.
Why are English telly tax payers paying a small fortune for a full on Welsh language service that only one or two taffs watch?
Because they’re fucking idiots.
Tell Crapita to get knotted.
Me and the missus watch it all the time boyo. We count our money at the same time see. We’re very proud of what Labour done for Wales look you.
The BBC.
Marxist Media Providing The Illusion Of Choice
There’s nothing illusory about marr and peston!
They’re out and out syncophants of brownite commie socialism.
And unless the beeb gets rid of them, and it won’t, it will never be able to claim that its news reporting is impartial.
Mon suggestionne iz that you all take to the streets and demandez early retirement for ze admirals and ze politicians – all of them. Et their wives et aides et advisors et Wayne Rooney.
The french of course are very good at mass demonstrations as evidence this last few days.
The tuc was hoping to emulate them but their ‘less than 3000′ turnout in london today was a bit of a damp squib.
Of course militwit, despite promises to the contrary, was also missing, so that was another one not swelling their unenthusiastic numbers.
And the c u n t s voted for him!
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Stick that up your fat arse Crow.
All together Brothers and Sisters!
What do we want?
OTHER PEOPLES’ MONEY!
When do we want it?
NOW AND FOREVERMORE!
Two carriers/ Simples, build one, use the rest of the money to buy the planes and keep Ark Royal going until the new ONE comes into service?
SIMPLES!!!!!!!!?
Dave does not do simple solutions. He is fully signed up to the EU, that is why he has little opposition from Labour and his liberal mates.
2 unnecessary aircraft carriers , ordered by gordon on credit, to be built in scotland, solely to bolster the waning vote for him in his constituency at the last election.
He knew, aintbustinagut knew, the whole labour government knew, that not only that the country did not need and could not afford the carriers, they also knew that what money that they’d printed that was left, after their spending orgy, needed to go towards the protection of the Army in Afghanistan.
And yet still they starved the Army of funds in Afghanistan and bought carriers (and labour jobs/votes in scotland) !!
quite agree.
I reckon Gordon should be held to account, from a noose.
Nell anymore posts like that and I’ll withdraw your winter allowance and free telly you bigoted old Tory harridan
1 Lancaster bomber.
1 Tallboy.
Target: HoC, noon Wednesday.
Enemies of the Nation eliminated.
Live in peace.
Are you sure you’re not London Jihadist?
He sounds like a thoroughly decent Englishman to me. Back in my day I did my bit with Bob a Job at the Cubs.
Tough times call for tough measures.
Our carriers should have been nuclear powered anyway, I just don’t get the argument that its more expensive than two Rolls-Royce 36 MW gas turbine generator units and four Wartsila Diesel Generator units! The fill up price on that set up would be eye watering, and every 10,000 miles too, you can’t beat nuclear power for large naval vessels.
Ask the Americans and everyone else!
BBC. Just because Greg Dyke once worked there, doesn’t mean every monkey-booted rug snuffler who chucks a CV in should be given a job. None of them will ever grow a respectable bunch of clag grapes – which should be career limiting. Chuffed to NAAFI breaks.
The BBC is REJOICING that MRS T has been taken to hospital
Get well soon, Saviour of Britain.
Thanks, I will.
Her knackered old handbag has more class and balls than CallMeDave ever had or ever will.
I’m surprised Harridan Harmperson doesn’t worship at her feet. Maybe it’s because Thatcher is white, intelligent and presents a threat. Harridan just likes making ‘people of colour’ and poorer people feel better about themselves.
No Pressure!
Why are these new aircraft carriers being altered to accommodate French and American planes yet more money wasted to alter them into floating motels for countries that still value their military
Dave you are fast becoming a close second to Gordon Brown !
Said the fucking muppet
Fuck Off Colin !
Misunderstood arse rapist TAT !
Thats You That Is !
i thought you would know better trial pending and all !
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/15/jane_troll/
Still rimming Martin Webster TAT ?
Said the rimming arse rapist
Ner ner na ner ne i said it first
ha ha ha ha ha
wheres yer blog TaT ?
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !
He’s probably too busy doing your underage daughter.
I on the other hand, don’t know who the fucker is.
You are, and shall always remain, a wanker.
If you giant arsehole, TaT was the guy who leaked the expenses disk and scandal to the telegraph but before doing so got odds on a hung parliament, then laid down the money the telegraph gave him and made MILLIONS.
The guy is a living legend.
* Look you giant arsehole,
I wonder if hague’s fetching pink tie is more fetching than gordon’s??
Hmm??!!
Welcome to my country !
but please try to speak the language !
It’s a subtle plan to partially recoup the running costs of the carriers. When the Yanks and Frogs turn up, they’ll be charged a fee for parking on the carrier (not for landing, just parking); quite cheap for a spot on deck, but a premium rate for a nice covered hanger space. If they overstay the stated time on their ticket, a party of Marines will wheelclamp them, and charge a swingeing fine to remove the clamp. In the last resort, they’ll be towed away and slung over the side, and still fined.
Can someone please explain why being tormented by yobs for years and making a person’s life a living hell, less important than placing a pussy in the safety of a secure plastic container, to the British police?
Two wrongs don’t make a right
O! Won’t somebody think of all the bacteria that are daily slaughtered in this country with hygien products!
Come on KL, don’t just think of pussy, think of the poor innocent bacteria!
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!!!!
I like thinking about mong pussy.
On PM this evening. 3 manchester councils have got together, share the same pay computer result £3 million saved. They openly admitted if they could pooled the pay staff then much much more money would be saved. SO WHY DON’t they do it?
do Tesco have a full back office team for every store? Like fuck they do, they have one for the whole company.
I fucking hate this government. Our council house has been in the family for generations. I’ve supported the benefit system all my life and I’m teaching my 10 kids to do the same. These Tory bastards are trying to do me out of my legitimate inheritance. Bring back Labour, the friend of the non-working man.
Why?
No Balls Dave is only bringing in this new rule for future council house tennants. You will still be able to exploit the council tax payer to your grave.
These tory bastards are trying to win the “Scum vote” at the expence of middle England Dont hit the filthy rich (Our Friends) or the filth class
just hit the hard working middle classes
well “Call me Dave” have i got news for you
you are wasting your time
these people will never vote for you and you will be out on your public school arse after your first term
you are a joke !
By the way I am a dribbling imbecile. Ooh I hate Dave. Yeah – and other shit.
The more I see and listen to the Cameron and his jolly Con men the less I like. It appears to me that he is as much a con man actor as Blair and has as much back bone as a ruptured jelly fish. Is there no one out there capable of acting as a statesman / woman to lead this country away from the NWO / EU doctrines.
To criticise wonderful David is a crime against moderation!!
“Is there no one out there capable of acting as a statesman / woman to lead this country away from the NWO / EU doctrines.”
Not in the LibLabCon all in it up to our necks parties.
Next move?
We need Sebastian Pinera!!
What somebody who knows how to make political capital from a disaster? Sounds a bit like our Tony and Gordon.
Er No. gordon never knew how to take a political decision let alone make political capital out of anything. Everything he did turned to dust!
As for bliar , I’m not sure I’d say his decision to go to war in Ir+++q made him any political capital. ‘Course we all know that decision has since made bliar loads of the other sort of £capital. I suspect that was deliberate on his part.
And truly those miners stuck half a mile underground under 700k ton of rock would still be there if gordon or bliar were their leader.
Neither of them would have gambled their own political credibility on getting them out as Pinera did.
gordon and bliar would have judged their political survival to be more important than the lives of 33 ordinary men ! And they would have gone and hid!!!!
Viva Pinera!
Yep! Handy guy with a shovel!!
……………ZZZZZ
Obviously past your bed time sonny?
Well young bliar what can we say but Bless!
His decision to make war on Ir+++q on a lie, has sure benefitted his children hasn’t it??!
Well young tony Cameron the heir to bliar what can we say but Bless!
His decision to support war on Ir+++q on a lie, has sure benefitted his children hasn’t it??!
Er no sorry al campbell , it is an accepted fact that bliar has made £millions for himself and his family by going to war in ir+++q.
I guess you too have done quite well out of it!!
“We need Sebastian Pinera!!”
No, just retribution. Bloody, painful retribution.
I think I’ve spotted the Spanish Amanada coming up the Chanel, come quick big trouble ahead
Wot’s an Amanada?
Naval term
“A ! Man da – lifeboats
Spanish Amanda? I remember her fondly….
Did you come quick and end up in big trouble?
Only when I realised her mother was included in the job lot.
Forget about having the Olympics in London – hold them on these otherwise useless aircraft carriers instead.
When it’s all over, set fire to the damned things and sail them into the Spanish fishing fleet.
I can equip those carriers with two squadrons of flying pickets.
Didn’t they have a number one hit with ‘Only You’? Big fan of the miners.
Originally members of the 7:84 Theatre Company.
Could the staff at Northern Rock be trained to make some aeroplanes?
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/8381313.450_jobs_to_be_axed_at_BAE_Lancashire_sites/
Perhaps unemployed aeroplane builders would be better.
fuck them
This is what happens if you let the yanks loose on your aircraft carrier !
Ooh, I post pictures of shit because I’m too dumb to say anything interesting. And my moniker is so funny – get it ‘what a fuckign muppet’ eh – I am one.
Thank goodness uncooked Frey Bentos faced David Cameron has cancelled all aircraft for our aircraft carriers
The navy will now be a safer work environment
“uncooked Frey Bentos faced David Cameron”
LOL!
His mouth even resembles the vent slit you often get in the wet, otherwise featureless expanse of goo.
I’m just going to set up a charity and con everyone and live the high life, every other corrupt fucker is doing it and the goverrnment just loves giving them money.
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I SAY
Nadine takes on the BBC:
http://blog.dorries.org/id-1705-2010_10_Soldiers_in_Downton_Abbey.aspx
Osborne’s austerity package praised in advance by Mervyn King, Bank of England governor.
What do you expect King to do. Work for a living?
Me is no a batty boy blud. Me did that Cheryl Cole. She 1 fit ho
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“More expensive, less capable” as a condemnation on labour’s mod buying policies!!
It says everything about the last labour government.
I notice aintbustinagut is now trying to present himself as a ‘defence expert’ no doubt with an eye to future lucrative jobs.
Advice to aintbustinbgut ‘go looking for a day job as a bin man and don’t hold your breath’ !!!
Labour were and are shit at most things, their understanding and abilities are proven to be very suspect and apparently corrupt. However the Libby Con job now in place appears to be rapidly disappearing down the same plug hole! I’m afraid that measures taken so far seem to beggar belief in some cases! OK though, if you are one of the Special Few!!
Now that a precedent has been set with all these expenses ‘mistakes’ in parliament I imagine that any individuals convicted of misappropriation will be fine provide they explain that it was a ‘mistake’ and are willing to reimburse any victim?? Just like some MPs and Members of the House of Lords?
Sorry but nobody, not even the world’s worst clowns could be as bad as gordon , kevan, and aintbustinagut!!
Not Ever!!!
Dave’s working at it!!
What’s the weather like up there in Dave’s arsehole old Mrs Turnip ?
Can’t say but I guess bobcrows cuban honeys would know !!
If you accept we are in deep financial shit then you have to accept that the cuts are necessary. If you don’t accept the former, then your opinions are worthless.
Until a single diversity co-ordinator or community engagement adviser is fired then I will only accept that you are talking unadulterated shite about the necessity for cuts.
Get fucking Uddin to cough up the money. The thieving bitch.
And cut the head of that Gay Saudi while you at it.
You are being silly.
uddin is not going to repay that money – she is off to her marble palace never to return.
as for that saudi prince – we all hope he is just about to find armageddon. He deserves it!!
I wonder where bobcrow is tonight surely he is not in cuba with his honeys?!!
Nell you had better hope no Brit is pulled in Jeddah,Riyadh,Damam in the next few weeks accused of something the would get his head off his shoulders, as no doubt he would be used in exchange for this prince,the House of Saud is a big big family and looks after it’s own.
I respect your concerns they are very real!!
At the same time this man is very evil and I find it difficult to believe the familysaud are going to want to rescue him from the hole he has dug for himself.
As for his defenceless victim – rip!
This is without doubt an informative and amusing website. The views expressed are diverse and not shackled by fear or intimidation. There is no bias here (unlike the BBC), fair and accurate representations of individuals’ views are always publicised uncensored. I also believe in Father Xmas and the Tooth Fairy and rely on the moderation of contributions to protect the population of this country from unclean thoughts. FFS!!!
Sorry dripper but you really do need to be on the beeb = they are much more about what you believe!!!
Love ITV news, sooooo amusing to watch them desperately trying to put a positive spin on the CUTS, currently running a happiness poll….Jesus !!!!!!!!
Yeah, the bunch of fascists!
That ITV soap Emmerdale Farm is a racist far-right brainwashing tool of the capitalists as well!
I sell the worlds biggest and bestest pies
You have my cast iron guarantee on that
I am also dyslexic
Cameron has sent Thatcher his best wishes. That’s it she is as good as dead ( Cambo Curse )
Get your own catch phrase!
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I see what you did there. You tried to pretend that Cameron is Brown.
He’s certainly as wet as Brown.
Help for heros. – PICK UP YOUR P45 ON THE WAY OUT MATE !!!!!
Beers do shit in woods
Another tosser advertising his shit boring blog no one what’s to read, blog off!
Cameron will be a one term wonder, the Cons better dump him for a real winner when the time comes otherwise they can kiss British Politics goodbye.
Why do the fuckers deserve a second chance?
Try something a bit ‘daring’, you know, stop voting for the same old same old every bloody time. There are quite a few others apart from the usual suspects LabConDem.
Irony not being a strong suit with the mongs.
Then she asks
Where are you from?
Who are you funded by?
Hahahahaha…
Doh!
We are building a Carrier so that the French Aircraft can land on it…………Can you imagine in Brown annouced that. Enjoy the bloggs Tory apologists
You mean the polls surely?
Poles?
Let’s be honest. We are building two billion dollar aircraft carriers because brown wanted to create non jobs in fife so that they’d vote for him in the last election!!
Now we find we can’t even afford to pay for them, and in any case they have no useful purpose!
How very labour!!
And yet Cameron is prime minister and can’t cancel them?
Doesn’t wash with the voters who still think they are electing the most powerful person in the United Kingdom to speak and act in their best interests and not some EU regional director following Nato orders which is the reality….
If this is Camerons best way of handling the situation, I would hate to see his worst….
This was gordon and ainbustinagut’s best way to handle the situation.
I’d hate to see their worst!!
Thatch talen to hospital with infection.
My goodness. She still captures the news doesn’t she?
Can’t imagine bliar or brown doing the same thing. Guess we’d all wish them to hades!!
Mrs T – God Bless.
Let’s start the betting on whether she’ll make it through the night.
Hmm Let’s start the betting on whether the beeb will make it through this coalition government.
I do hope not!!
Dismember it and sell it off around the world!!
Great money for the taxpayer!!
Mr Cameron stressed that he supported the BBC
He said: “The BBC is an important national institution. I want to see it prosper and succeed and be a fantastic cultural asset.”
He added that he was a “supporter of the licence fee”
Jeremy Hunt Conservative MP, Culture Secretary
“I believe that the BBC is a great national institution.”
“I am proud of the BBC. I think that most British people think that we are very lucky to have a BBC and most people who aren’t British, if they don’t have a BBC, wish they did have one.”
“I don’t see the BBC as a State broadcaster. “I think people see the BBC as operating at arms length from the government and it’s very important that it should continue to do so and that’s why we’ve said we will protect the BBC charter.”
Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg has defended the BBC, saying it’s “unique in the world and we should be proud of it” and said the trend for politicians to constantly attack it was wrong.
Fuck off nell. Euthanasia is just about legal now you know.
I suspect a better bet will be whether militwit’s labour even get’s a look in at the next election.
Not likely is it??!!
militwit oh dear miltwit – that public schoolboy with no useful view !!!
she’s going to have some nice pudding
Thatcher or nell?
I’m disgusted at the cuts to the BBC budget with the 6 year freeze.
Well troughing peston and marr .
I expect you are!!!
But I think the gravy train is finally running into the buffers!!
because you’re a senile old twat dear
I’ll bet you all that you own [6 turnips] it will be here after the next election
wavy davy supports the BBC you dim twat
You bet all that I own that it will be here?
The Gravy Train??!!
Time for it to hit the buffers!!
the BBC you dumb cun’t
So am I. They should have closed the whole place down and spent all the money on the navy.
OMG Admiral all that beeb money spent on the Navy.!!!
Would have been much more worthwhile than thrown away on the beeb , wouldnlt it??!!
Cuts? What cuts?
Do me a favour sailor!
Oh I’m telling yer, I just can’t fuckin wait for tomorrow, them blood sucking parasites wont know what hit um!
I’m coming to get YOUUUUUU, yes that’s YOU!
Chop chop chop, mhahahahahaha!
Give us free benny fits or we will kills you! Allaaaaaaah crapbar!
HYPOCRISY WATCH – DAY 4
David Cameron still hasn’t sacked his expenses piggy whip and old etonian schoolfriend Bill Wiggins despite his explicit promise to do so.
“We’re all in this together”
Except for my Eton chums because they’re better than you Oiks.
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Blair employ and his old flatmate Charles Faulkner and even ennoble him?
two mongs don’t make a right
Blair’s a Liar 1000 times over for Iraq
but we can plainly see his mini-me Dave the heir to Blair is also a Lying c*nt
Sorry no-one but no-one can match gordonmong and bliar.
The worst, most incompetent, most troughing, Pm’s we have ever ever had!!
Who suported Blair’s Iraq war dear ? and who STILL supports it ?
Your hero Cameron the Heir to Blair.
And Dave is still a Lying c*nt.
And nell is still a raving lunatic. Do you overdose on the yellow capsules on purpose?
Smarkets are offering 8-1 that the aircraft carriers will be turned into social housing.
http://fxbites.blogspot.com/2010/10/britannia-rules-waves.html
Poor Wayne Rooney- He’s obviously been struggling to survive on a mere £180,000 a week.
Even when getting a good plating, i’ll bet Anna Botting wears that same disgusted expression.
Fuck it! Hack photographers. Better close the file.
Oh happy days – all those labour non-jobs to go!!!
just one more thing – ‘er could there be a firm order from Whitehall that from the beginning of January all the government and local government non-jobs being advertised in the Guardian will have to stop? Put ‘em on a government web site?
It would save ‘the hardworking families’ billions of pounds in tax, fuck up the Guardian and even, perhaps, bring about the end of that stupid creature Polly Toynbee.
WHERE IS THE DOWNSIDE????
We need an air force and an army – the latter being needed in the UK to see off assorted lefties, anarchists and moslem nutjob jihadis
the police already kill people for free
and soon the government will have all of our phone calls and internet sites as well
nice country to live in whilst we die
http://weareangry.co.uk/Video/tabid/828/language/en-GB/Default.aspx
We lose the Harriers but the Guards get to keep 3000 Horses – you just know it makes sense!
Cost of stables for the small number of hoses in the HCR and RHA is minimal and reminds us that we are not yet a vulgar grey country with no history…. I am not the only one who thinks that is worth more than a 40 year old sub-sonic Harrier.
The Harriers in current service are far from 40 yrs old, twat. They’re the youngest assets in the Air Force fleet.
But here’s another thought: with Kinloss closing (:-)) and the Sword hanging over Lossiemouth, why not transfer the Air Defence assets at Leuchars to Lossie (where they should have been all the time anyway) and reduce the impact on the Moray economy. What about Leuchars’ economy I hear you say? What about it? The ajoining constituancy is a certain Kirkcaldy – poetic justice, what?
how much it reminds me on 1979!
The
Marxist arseholes that had fucked he economy were finally turfed out leaving the unfortunate John Nott to massively reduce armed forces expenditure.
Result Argentine adventurism. Much blood and treasure unneccessarily wasted.
Not unlike the defence cuts imposed by the “coalition” in the 1930s ecouraging adventurism by Italy and Germany.
the lesson is “if you keep your guard up you don’t have to fight wars.” or Arma Pacis Fulcra as it says on the cap badge of the best regiment in the British Army.
I know that Bliar and Bruin have ruined us, but I equally know the price will be paid in the next generation’s spilt blood.
Hasn’t solved the biggest problem with defence, and one of the main reasons we are top four in terms of world defence spending, but stuggle to be top 10 in terms of deployable force.
The procurement budget is primarily used to subsidise the UK defence industry and the associated jobs at places like AugustaWestland, Clyde Shipyards and various BAe sites in the interests of maintaining ‘independent strategic capability’ (essentially the ability to build our own stuff and not be beholden to Jonny Foriegner for our kit)
The vast majority of each big procurement project in the UK is paying people to design a gold plated bit of kit for the UK which ends up with an astronomical unit price as we pay the full* costs of R&D and production.
Case study T45/Daring class destroyer. About £1billion per boat, not because it costs that much to build but because of the enormous design and integration cost – the unit price would have been less but we halved the number of units to help pay the R&D costs (RN is supposed to have 12 destroyer escorts)
And the real kicker is the only defence industrial capability we have maintained is cutting steel to build ships (not super high tech) and integrating advanced technology purchased from other countries (in the Daring’s case – the super secret sauce, the missiles come from France & Italy) so we are still dependent on other countries good will for the good bits.
The way to fix this would be:
1) Brass (across all services) has to get out of the mentality of designing gold plated super kit from scratch to meet requirements, but looking at the best of breed designs that are available already and seeing which is the closest fit.
2) If politically neccessary, buy licences to construct winning gear locally.
3) Maintain a much larger stock of spares/ensure as much knowledge transfer as possible – enough that the kit could be operated for as long as it would take to aquire replacements in the event the original supplier decided to cut us off for any reason.
To continue with the Type 45 example, Japan and South Korea have been able to license the design of the US Arleigh Burke class destroyers and construct ships locally for about a third to half the cost of the current Type 45 unit cost – so we could have had a ship design that is (arguably) better in some areas (certainly in the multirole sense, Daring is a one trick pony at the moment) than Type 45 at a price that would mean RN could maintain the correct number of destroyer escorts.
The cost would have been a (small) increased dependency in the US, and less pork in the barrell for the UK defence industry/lobby.
Similar arguments can be made for other procurement project e.g.
Eurofighter : How many F15E’s or F18 Super Hornets could we have had years ago for the same money? Is the small improvement in capability Typhoon provides worth the massive cost?
Lynx Wildcat : AugustaWestland actually have had a licence to build Blackhawks for years – a better chopper for the same or less dosh.
* Not always full in the case of cooperative projects like Eurofighter Typhoon. In theory sharing costs among other allies is a good idea, but the EU style beuracracy has more than made up for it on some projects, like Eurofighter and the Airbus A400.
Funny isn’t it, they retire the only aircraft capable of defending the UK AND operating from Carriers, the HArrier would be great for UK defence, hiding in woods and forests and could operate from carriers.
Dont tell me they are of no use in afghanistan.
What’s the betting that Komrade Kameron will come up with the idea that maybe the EU shoiuld be invited toi operate its aircraft from our carriers.
But it’s OK, the Carriers are still British, this is not more EU takeover, Look, they have a little British flag on them.
You must think we are stupid mr Cameron.
Can u imagine if the Argies threatened the Falklands again and Cameron threatened to send the Carriers down there.
Wake up to the Globalist’s Agenda
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When’s Guy Fawkes night, i’m not proposing sedition or violent revolution or anything, I’m just curious.
I’ve heard that the French are going to be allowed to park on them but, in order to cover costs, there will be parking meters and traffic wardens on the Carriers.