Spin-Dominated Dead Tree Press
Guido is a little puzzled. Everytime he reads something about the Treasury Select Committee, it seems to be proceeded by the words “Tory dominated”:
Take this example from the Guardian, or this one from Progress, or from The Mail. Now take a look at the make up of the Treasury Select Committee:
Andrew Tyrie
(non-voting, chairman)
Michael Fallon
Andrea Leadsom
Jesse Norman
David Rutley
Mark Garnier
Andy Love
John Mann
George Mudie
Chuka Umunna
John Cryer
John Thurso
Stewart Hosie
Can the old hacks not add up, or are they deliberately not mentioning that far from dominating, the Tories are outnumbered?
What do you expect from the gaurdian ?
Typos, dogma, tunnel vision, loopy logic, batty polly – someone has to do it.
It;’s not just the Guardian… the economy grew faster than expected 2nd quarter “startling growth” (possibly because a maniac wasn’t in control of it any more?) but this is a problem too, interest rates will have to rise:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/7906732/UKs-startling-economic-growth-reignites-austerity-debate.html
Damned if they do damned if they don’t. Always a problem — they’re Tories and we don’t want them (or the country) to succeed in pulling itself out of the morass.
How many of the members actually know anything about how an economy works? They should just put John Redwood in a room and run everything by him.
The economy runs itself. All it needed was for the idiots interfering with it to be removed.
the Bankers are still there, nobody removed them
Brilliant idea! Remove all the bankers. North Korea manages perfectly well without bankers so why should we need them?
said the idiot who thinks the Banks did brilliantly
you ignorant tosser
That’s not a problem. Unless you’re a debt junkie.
Exactly AC1.
If interest rates do go up and some people are overstretched it’ll be a lesson they’ll never forget and hopefully won’t get themselves into the same position again. Win/win.
Dear Sue
“Some People” got a lesson in the ’90′s. Those who didn’t overborrow rode the crisis. Those who treated housing as a casino blamed the government. The Sheeple Party always have the final say.
I remember that ‘lesson’ well. It involved some Lamont nutter saying “we’re doubling interest rates” and my Dad going “well thats that then” and promptly declaring bankruptcy. His creditors learned a lesson.
Yup my husband being one.
He’d slogged away living in a grotty rented Fenland cottage for 10 years while he built his company(s) then when the house crashed moved in to buy our cottage for £130,000 and paid cash.
At last a leader who will teach people to fish, rather than a manager who gives you a fish
That’s exactly what needs to happen, Susie. Interest rates need to rise. It encourages people to SAVE – remember that? Saving? Well, it creates capital – and the bank lends that depsoiters money to entrepreneurs to make more money. It used to be called ‘capitalism’. And without capital, you can’t have ‘capitalism’.
It would also press the abort button on the housing market. It needs aborting, too. The whole economy is distorted trying to keep bubble prices alive and well and stop individuals and, even more importantly, banks taking the losses their financial mistakes deserve.
Oh, and my kids might be able to buy a small place to live in without being a debt slave to the banks for the rest of their lives.
Sorry for the rant but feel much better for it!!
Were select committees under the last Labour government ever described as Labour dominated? Not to my recollection.
You’d think that as the Tories won the election, it’s slightly over-optimistic to suppose they’d be any other way.
Labour haven’t exactly covered themselves in glory while in power and lost over 90 seats at the GE so I’m surprised they let any of the useless shower (with some exceptions — Kate Hoey maybe) onto them at all.
Kate Hoey maybe? Really? TBH I don’t know why she didn’t go independent at the last election.
Sooner the government puts 100% of public sector Job Adverts on the internet the better for all.
the sooner we wake up and start to ask questions – stop accepting the MSM as purveyors of truth – the better
There is a problem with your logic Guido old mate!
To be “Dominate” does not necessarily mean to outnumber.
Your misses dominates your household, she will be outnumbered but as you are aware this will not help you when you are in the poo!
;0)
Maths has never been the strongpoint of most journalists
Or labour chancellers
Tories outnumbered?
Con Dem coalition so excluding non voting Tory Chair it’s 6 Con Dem’s and 5 Lab with one SNP MP making is more like a possible 6-6?
Point already made @ #26, LM. Please try to keep up.
But one has to scroll down repeatedly to read some earlier posts…
I can think of some better situations and places to go up and down repeatedly!
Water flumes?
@Mr Doff. If I can manage both, seveal times a day, at my advanced age, I am sure that you can too.
I’m trying although it’s not helping you numbering the point @#26 rather than @#25
Appreciate your point, sir. It was #26 when I wrote it, LM, but it has now changed to #25.
As in Job 1:21, The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.
I shall try, in future, to remember to state the time as well.
Since when has the Coalition actually been the Conservative Party? It’s convenient for some lefty cretins to believe they are one and the same, of course, and it may come to pass, but it is not the current situation.
Basic arithmetic has not been the strongpoint of State teaching for the past decade, clearly.
Or entire Labour cabinets
hello
pay me
Have an ice-cream
http://archipelago-of-truth.blog.co.uk/2010/07/23/war-on-terror-scoop-9028345/
They all aspire to be counts.
But they are all Huhnes.
The lengths we have to go to in order to avoid a certain word, the ONLY word, that adequately describes the brain dead.
Even with fewer members they manage to “dominate”. Either the DTP are giving a back-handed compliment to the Conservative Party, are lamenting the weakness of the opposition on committee, or are just incompetent hacks. I’m betting it’s not the first option.
Non Tories are so useless that they do not count?
Surprised to see The Wail doing it. There goes another bulwark of the right wing press.
Why the surprise? The Mail has been anti-Tory for a very long time. It’s those fucking Dacres – unprincipled opportunist cretins, right the way down to the present day.
Agree, but don’t they read the newspapers sometimes? The world has changed.
And they wonder why they are going out of buisness
Eddy Shah was just putting off the evil day. Even he is out of that game now.
What do you really expect?
I expect a lot more from all public servants.
Jon Venables – 2 years after it transpires he has a ‘history of internet child porn’
Old Holborn’s piece about Stockwell and G20
MPs are continuously proven to be crooked wicked hypocritical hoons
Blair Straw Hoone no enquiry
Abdul Basset Al Magraghi
and on and on and on
I feel like constantly furious
On a lighter note, for all you foragers, first ripe blackberry today and it’s going to be a bumper year!
Apologies @85
‘Jon Venables – 2 years after it transpires he has a ‘history of internet child porn’
a history of ‘hoarding’ internet child porn’ ‘including the rape of an 8 year old girl’
‘even though his internet usage was monitored’
Why are we paying them, it’s like a Stallone Movie.
They are dominating. There are more of them than any other party?
There are 6 Tories and 7 non Tories its hardly domination is it? Its typical newspaper spin, I don’t really beleive anything in them 100% anymore. There was a hatchet job on my workplace about 12 months ago and it really opened my eyes. My boss was smeared so badly for no reason other than the journalist decided it made an interesting slant on the story. 12 months on the whole thing has been poven bollox, do you get an apology? Do you fuck.
Twas ever thus. The industry in which I spent most of my working life was not one favoured by many in the media. When occasional “incidents” occurred (very minor, most of them, compared to many in other industries) most of the press, including the BBC, went apeshit. Being quite closely involved with the aftermath of a couple of those incidents, I was in a good position to know what actually happened, and what the consequences were. The company’s press releases were surprisingly accurate, full and honest; the reports on the broadcast and print media were often distortions and – to put it politely – selective.
You expect the red-tops not to let facts get in the way of a good story, but the manner in which the so-called quality broadsheets and so-called impartial broadcasters were capable of misrepresentation and (deliberate?) misunderstanding was quite startling. I have had a very jaundiced view of most journalism ever since.
Is it true that you were a press officer at British Leyland during the Lord Stokes era or is just a silly rumour?
That is indeed a silly rumour. I have never worked in the automotive industry in any capacity, paid or otherwise.
Nor did I
One should always assume that the object of the exercise for newspapers and now, other media, is to sell. Thus truth is, inevitably, a by-product of all forms of journalism.
Indeed I have known several journalists working on leading papers who have admitted that they do actually make stories up. Just as long as those stories get past their legal departments they get printed. Given those ‘standards’ it’s hardly surprising that we see so much crap in the MSM these days.
Journalism has become part of the Entertainment and Leisure business.
Sue the fuckers.
Hi , My names Tim Lovejoy and i am a legend .
and I am not a Tim Lovejoy
Oh fuck off Tim.
Who is Tim Lovejoy? Googled him, still no idea.
‘Over the weekend, the BBC gave football fans the length and breadth of the world the news that they’d waited years to hear. Finally, after 13 years of clueless ramblings, smug arrogance and a frighteningly poor knowledge of the game he professes to love, Tim Lovejoy is to be booted off as a regular presenter of 5 Live’s 6-0-6 football phone in show. A variety of failed shows on a multitude of channels have yet to deflate the ego of this man of football who’s speciality is replacing the idiot who stands next to you in the pub.’
Oh thanks… I thought he was that good looking Lovejoy antiques bloke from an old TV series.
Good looking? Well it takes all sorts. Looks more like a pikey to me.
Not to be confused with ‘reverend’ Tim Lovejoy of Simpsons fame.
Look at how long Terry Christain lasted at the COMMERCIAL station TalkSPORT.
Lovejoy took over presenting Fifth Gear and it is not made any more.
Lovejoy is also the guy whose myspace page is leads to suspected spammer sites!
A reported spammer site
- A reported Phishing Site: A site designed to trick the user into giving up user name and passwords.
- A site which contains malware
- A site that currently contains a lot of spam
- ( The user entered HTML syntax was inaccurate. I like to think it is not this)
Won’t somebody think of the children?
Venables does
Probably due to the coalition they count the Lib-Dem member as a Tory, but even so you cant teach an old socialist dog new tricks, they just have to find a grievance in everything.
How terrible, what an injustice, the Tories really don’t get a fair coverage in the UKs press do they? I mean it’s so dominated by left wing papers.
Haha I liked that
I am very much desirous of forming an understanding of the current best time scale estimate, re the financial meltdown of the Guardian and it’s holding vessel.
Surely the coalition has managed to knock up a website for the 109 public sector jobs which are actually of value to the nation by now?
This much anticipated site must surely signal a potentially catastrophic loss of revenue for the ridiculously second rate, smug, left wing scribes employed by said organ.
Those who are unable to gain ‘work’ at the equally ridiculous BBC would presumably then face the economic realities of real work.
The hacks just repeat each other’s errors until legend becomes ‘fact’.
Sir William Waad I bow down to your knowledge. You write the truth. Toenails, Boulton et al have their own industries.
When they start looking too pug ugly for broadcasts they write books.
Erm …. well….. there are 6 Tories + 1 Lib Dem and 5 Labour and 1 SNP.
That makes the Tory party with the largest number of members and the ConDem alliance able to outvote everyone else.
That is domination.
I suggest you try reading the list again starting off with the first line all the way until the end.
(Tory) Andrew Tyrie (non-voting, chairman) so;
5 + 1 = 6
5 + 1 = 6
Seeing any domination here? I’m not.
Any domination comes fromthe fact that more Tories know what they’re talking about than Socialists.
Outnumbered, but not outgunned.
But definitely outbummed.
Ed Miliband here.
I’m planning to tack the party a lot further to the left when I become leader.
I’ve started the myth that we weren’t really defeated in the elections. It was just the Lib Dem stab in the back that meant we couldn’t continue on.
I’m planning on moving to hoover up all the Lib Dem disaffected lefties. If I can take the party really far to the left..left of Bob Crow say, I’ll meet the extreme right coming the other way. Lib Dems are just natural socialists, but they didn’t like our war policies. Well, I’ll fix that. In future the wars will be really short. We’ll gear up for only Blitzkrieg style wars.
And I’ll do something about immigration.That cost a lot of votes.Not sure of the final solution yet, but something will occur to me.
I’m thinking of naming the new party from the sum of its parts.
The New Socialist Democratic Alliance Party.
NSDAP for short.
What, no Fabians?
Fabius waited before striking. NewLab will strike before waiting.
The liberal leftwingers left because they were asked to do some work for a change instead of sitting on their arses mouthing off.
If Labour get back in the would move back to the Libs before having do any work for Labour either.
Bob Crowe. Not many come left of Bob Crowe. Has anyone asked him how much he earns, how much his xs are, and how much his pension will be? He’s alright Jack. He feels it is his duty to bring public servants out on strike. Recently he attended the Tolpuddle Martyrs’ gathering in Dorset, but he is a million miles from John Loveless their leader who was a very poor hard working farm labourer.
Sorry, the leader of the Tolpuddle Martyrs was George not John Loveless.
Bob Crowe is certainly not Loveless. He is clueless.
NSDAP, Bill?
Too subtle by half, my old mucker!
Looking at that pie chart it looks dominated by gays
Pinkos
Gay Racists.
brokeback pinkos
ROFL!
Self-confessed players of the pink pie chart.
The Tory’s are the junior partners
Should there be an apostrophe there?
…and an – ies somewhere?
there’s nothing new here
when you get MPs who are more interested in how you speak to them rather than what you have to say all I can say is fuck ‘em all, the long and the short and the balls
Show the average journalist a pie chart and they would want to eat it. Bunch of ignorant bastards
So… 5 Tories and 5 Labour. Oh, ‘ang on… and a Tory chairman (okay – doesn’t vote but I doubt he keeps his gob shut) plus the Eton-educated rebel LibDem nuke-powerer viscount Thurso.
Hmmm…
And Stewart Hosie – SNP – not noted for their wholehearted support for Tory policies.
He’s not a big fan of Labour from the (admittedly) little I know tho’.
Good.
No big fan of Labour – good. No big fan of Tory – also good. Geddit?
Lib Dems are Tories now. Simples.
MSM reporting narrative, not the truth? What a shock! (not.)
Google Journolist for what really goes on. No wonder the MSM is dying.
There are more people on that committee than actually read the Grauniad.
There are even less reading the Times!
The Dead Tree press is at a crossroads and struggling not to die.
Voodoo Maths.
Don’t know why anyone takes notice of the MSM – dead tree, Sky, BBC or otherwise. They’re all mendacious bastards with multiple axes to grind.
I visit their sites for laughs, the Grauniad especially. Haven’t bought a paper since I got 50% off The Times while at university.
How many months ago was that?
Fewer months than you.
Nice to see ‘fewer’ rather than ‘less’ – for a change. Private education?
I was in the middle of an all male three-some last night?
I was stuck between a cock and a hard place.
Stop showing off!
Maths never was the strong point of the left, neither’s logic or reason.
Why do you think we’ve got a £4trillion debt and yet labour are still moaning at making budget cuts?
They’re all moronic loonies living in a parellel universe where logic, reason, maths, and the laws of physics don’t apply. Fuck them all. Let’s all just hope they never get their hands on power ever again.
Well indeed they are. Why else did Gordon stir his lazy self to appear momentarily in Westminster this week complaining loudly to anyone who would listen that the Tories were trying to trash his fantastic fiscal record in government!!
Labour are in denial about how bad they were ( complete and utter rubbish and totally corrupt) for 13 years in every aspect of government not just the fiscal one.
Unfortunately there are still a few hacks in the national press, pollytwaddle and michaelswipe who are not big enough to admit that they were wrong, so they are still writing and printing the same old, same old.
I’m in de nile
Shock, horror! How can you say that?
Gordon, according to edmiliband, balls, nickbrown and the rest of his bullying crew ( oh and let’s not forget damian the bagman) was the ‘most advanced economic/fiscal brain on the planet. He was a wonder amongst men. Our saviour from economic disaster’ – according to them.
What was it mandy said about them in his book ‘ we were in a hole and still digging’
Very fitting epitaph for labour!
The whole Labour Party is “Touched” so touched infact they don’t know how touched they are.Mad as shithouse rats imo.
Maths understands u!
Lazy, sloppy journalism.
Well in the case of the graudian I don’t think it’s so much lazy as deliberate left-wing, blinkered to the truth, bias.
It is , of course, very poor journalism but then what do you expect of pollyt and her comrades?
Pollyt is a lazy columnist not a lazy journalist?
Perhaps its time to demand that Whitehall remove the monopoly the Gruniad currently has on all Civil Service job advertising, all Education Post advertising and all the Central and Local Government Contract advertising? Since they cannot provide unbiased and balanced reporting, the taxpayers should not be required to fund it.
* applause.
God you’re so racist
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/23/jack-straw-lockerbie-senate
The graudian is, of course, always ‘impartial.
Today it tried to bolster up poor jack’s lamentable position by saying, more than once, in a positive way, that he had nothing to do with the rekease of the lockerbie bomber.
Jack himself went out of his way to decline an ‘invitation’ to America to talk to the Senate Committee that is investigating the affair.
Running scared more like!
Chilcot, release of lockerbie bomber, Dr David Kelly’s Inquest coming ever closer…………….
Labour Chickens coming home to roost!!!
No wonder Gormless has gone in to hiding.
I’m really hoping that Chilcot is going to call Brown and Bliar back for another public grilling before he winds it all up.
And if I’m well enough I really want to be there at the door as they go in waving my placard saying ‘ Blood on yor hands’
Hear hear!
Wasn’t Jackass Straw’s father incarcerated during WWII for refusing to fight for this Country ??
We still won regardless.He was probably a lightweigh and F***ing useless anyway.
Doctors here have now discovered why Gordon Brown had books ghost written about ‘Courage.’
It seems he is a coward.
Doctors are now all agreed that he appears to be a textbook case of Transference Neurosis syndrome.
It also explains why he has titled the memoirs he is currently writing as
“The man with the very large penis, who everyone respected”
Brown always spoke of his moral compass,conscience and courage whilst possessing absolutely none(same goes for the rest of the Labour Party imo).Just a vain,deluded idiot,whose mistakes(and there were many) we’ll and the next generation will have to suffer for.Nothing moral or courageous about robbing future generations to buy votes in my book.
O/T
Guido and all we windowlickers. I am sure that we all want an FOI into Operation Ore although it might be unsavoury but what the hell!
Any possibilty that we can start a petition?
Not on my site, you don’t.
Oh Dear. The list is lengthening isn’t it?
Chilcot Inquiry into Iraq, US Senate Inquiry into Lockerbie bomber release, the coming Coroner’s Inquiry into Dr David Kelly’s Death, persistent public inquiries into Operation Ore…….
The net is closing on the scottish labour mafia isn’t it?!
’tis to be devoutly wished for.
It’s not just the Scottish Labour mafia. It’s Labour generally, in fact all the fucking political classes.
Making hay while the sun shines, due to the obvious global warming, yet not fixing the roof for the inevitable piss down is their speciality.
By my calculations, the Treasury Select Committee is totally Tory dominated.
Does 38% = dominated
Now you’re using percentages: I was never any good at maths.
Anyway, as prime minister, I never answered a question so I won’t be starting now.
Why don’t you start in America? Tell ‘em about the Libyan deal.
38% of Madonna Ciccone could dominate me no problem
By your calculations it was the right time to sell OUR GOLD ! even though every expert in the land told you not to !
i just hope your inability to be told what to do comes back to bite you in the arse
like: Policeman: please Mr Brown : Dont attempt to drive your car through that flooded river !
or Mr Brown never place a loaded gun to your head !
It’s preceded, not proceeded, you cock.
You can fucking talk you Jaffa.
Between you and your beard I doubt any sort of ced/ceed or seed has ever passed between you.
Similarly the BBC announce Vince Cable as ‘one of the few Liberal Democrats in the Cabinet’
It’s the same game as Al JaBeeBa deliberately setting out to bamboozle the sheeple by forever quoting ‘deficit’ – one year’s additional financing, and never ‘debt’ – the whole bloody caboodle which ZaNuLieBor doubled without a thought for the consequences between 2002/7!
I’ve given up watching Al JaBeeBa.
Al Jazeera Eng on freeview channel 89 is much better.
Tick tock till the licence fee goes down. Don’t need an act of Parliament to sort out BBC largesse, just ask any pensioner in the real world, if the company goes bust, you get no pension
Al JaBeeBa are paid with public money and in these hard times they should not be excluded from cuts.They are NOT paid to peddle their own idealogy.spin or omit stories to fit into their viewpoint.I don’t mind paying the licence fee IF it fulfills its duty as a public servant by airing opposite opinions at all times.If they want to pedel their OWN viewpoint (ie undemocratic) then cut and cut deep.The choice is theirs.
I guess that Al JaBeeBa are hoping that if they tilt things far enough towards ZaNuLieBor the reward will be greater funding when they return, not the promised coalition cuts!
Al-Jazeera English on Freeview only runs from 6 pm to 11 pm at the moment, and I can’t get it at all where I am. Online you have to chase about a bit to avoid the need for a subscription, but it seems possible to get it continuously in rather low res and an unenlargeable picture at
http://www.muslimco.com/aljazeeraenglish.html
Does anyone know any better places?
What the fuck do you want to watch alki ada’s mouth piece for anyway
are you an arab ?
or a fuckin sympathizer ?
leave it to the shit that watch it !
Don’t think your bin lid is on, dear. There’s a nasty smell coming out.
David, at next weeks PMQs I expect you to make a statement before the house in support of Private Aron Shelton. I’m expecting you personally intervene in this case and start knocking heads together at the benefits department. I mean, its not like the guy wants to live in a multimillion pound council house is it.
GET YOUR SHIT SORTED OUT.
Agree – his treatment is an absolute disgrace!
An absolutely brilliant point well made Mr F
Gordon Brown resurfaces 4,000 miles from Westminster
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jul/24/gordon-brown-african-union-kampala
That’s not what he is paid to do.
Some people are desperate for an audience
if you start to promise money to people anyone will listen
even if they dont understand a word he utters !
I can never remember the Treasury Select Committee being referred to as Labour dominated in the last Parliament, when it had eight Labour, two Lib Dems and four Conservative members. That gave the Labour party a majority vote every time.
And after a frenzy of pro-Labour posts (where DO they find them?) comments were closed at the Grauniad. What a surprise.
Where do they find them?
The Parliamentary pondLife Party can be seen in red on this map:
http://tinyurl.com/357gepc
“Burnham – He Can Hold His Own” I thought that was what most of them had been doing.
OK, in some cases it had been each other’s.
PRECEDED, NOT PROCEEDED DUMBO
Brilliant media Fact Check!
The media are only saying what we are all thinking!!