June 11th, 2010

Austerity Chief Secretary’s Pay Up 104% Last Month

Danny “Beaker” Alexander (pictured), the newly appointed Chief-Secretary to the Treasury, is the man charged with swinging the spending cuts axe, enforcing a public-sector pay freeze and sacking quangocrats.

It has to be done to bring down Labour’s deficit and tackle the government’s debt crisis – Britain’s deficit is second only to that of Greece.

The Coalition has been spinning that they are taking a 5% cut in ministerial salaries, which sounds very noble, setting an example and leading from the front, except when you realise that every single one of them will see their income rise.

Take the example of Danny Alexander, he was on an MPs’ basic pay of£65,737 before the election, a month later he is on £134,565, a whopping 104% pay rise.  Not exactly suffering personally under the new austerity regime he is supposed to enforce is he? Are we really “all in this together”?

He would argue that following his promotion he has additional responsibilities, but do they justify more than doubling his pay? Is he working twice as many hours? Who (besides a politician) would argue that a lucky promotion justifies doubling your pay?


253 Comments

  1. 1
    Bob says:

    I have no problem with the people in charge of running the country being paid a decent wage. It’s only right that they should get more than when in opposition.

    Their salaries are less than that being paid to the previous government – 5%, ok not a huge drop, but a drop none the less.

    Danny Alexander though – well, you could probably pay him in milk-bottles and an annual subscription to the Beano, and he’d be just as happy…

    • 9
      Oh and by the way says:

      Guido, why so negative? If you have a better suggestion to resolve this please publish it so we can all come on board. It is too easy to knock without offering solutions.

      • 30
        Taxfodder says:

        The country did not vote for a Coalition government, it is unelected!

        This Coalition is long on retoric huff and puff, squeaking on about everybody tightening their belts while awarding themselves fat pay packets.

        Plenty of negatives there matey!

        • 31
          Oh and by the way says:

          Where’s your positive answers fodder?

        • 39
          Mr Ned says:

          The coalition government represents the votes of 60% of the votes cast in the last election.

          Even Blair at his most popular could not manage that.

          Brown did succeed in making his party LESS popular than that of John Major’s in 1997 though. In May 2010, Labour got almost a million fewer votes than the tories in 1997 and got a smaller share of the vote too!

          • NoMercy says:

            And as unpopular that Labour was, the Conservatives still couldn’t get a majority.

          • Not even Blair in 1997 could achieve the vote achieved by Mr Major in 1992. In 1992, Major achieved over 14,000,000 votes, the largest number ever achieved by a party in any general election. Mr Blair achieved 13.5 million. In 1979 and 1987, Thatcher achieved 13.7 and 13.8 million respectively. In 2001, Blair got less votes than Callaghan and Kinnock in 1979, 87 and 1992! In 2005, he got fewer votes than Major in 1997! Blair wasn’t an election winning machine. He was lucky to face such a pathetic opposition party.

          • Anonymous says:

            It cannot represent 60% of the votes cast when many of their policies are diametrically opposed. Each time a Tory policy that I voted for is ditched in favour of a Lib Dem one then it ceases to represent me. I’d rather have Aids than vote Lib Dem. Truly Mr Ed, in the pantheon of Tory fuckwitted stooges, you take centre stage!

          • So Fack orf you cants says:

            When an election results in what we got it does not mean the population want a coalition. It means the population do not want to be governed,let alone charged over the top for it.

        • 51
          Steve Expat says:

          The coalition may be less than perfect a solution – but at least the two parties had the balls to take a pragmatic view of the election result, rather than either try to keep Broon in, or have to pass all sorts of shitty but necessary cuts as a minority administrration.

          If they fuck up then they fuck up and we have another election, but I say fair play to Dave and Clegg, who have both risked a fair amount of their own core support in order to get to where we are today.

          • Tessa Tickles says:

            I think Cameron basically shafted his party’s core support quite a long time ago, to be honest.

            Hence the not exactly convincing victory over what was by far the worst government in Britain’s history.

          • F.U.C.K.O.F.F says:

            The bottom line, and the politicians either can’t see it or won’t or don’t give a shit is the population said fuck off to all politicians.

        • 55
          jb says:

          It is Guido you are talking about negative is what he does. If you want constructive I am sorry but I can’t think of where you should go though.

          • Oh and by the way says:

            Guido has said many positive things in the past and no doubt will in the future. A recent example being Spelman’s conflict of interest and his suggestion that she should step back from making decisions where she could be viewed to be partial.

            Criticism can be positive. No?

      • 144
        Old Pirate says:

        This bunch of thieves know they won’t have long and are gearing up for lining their own nests,same as it ever was.

      • 196
        Hugh Janus says:

        Here’s something to get your teeth into Guido:

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1285745/Labours-1-3-TRILLION-spending-spree-How-millions-wasted.html

        Breathtaking, isn’t it? It’s high time we lined up some NuLiebour ministers for trial, on the grounds of wilful incompetence.

    • 36
      Mr Ned says:

      It is right that a Government Minister’s salary is significantly more than that of an opposition MP’s.

      The fact that the salary has been cut saves the people of this country some money whilst those newly into Ministerial positions are not hurt by it as they are seeing a personal increase in income. Win-win for everyone.

      Guido, while you seem to be pissed that ministers are not personally suffering the squeeze, I would ask, where is the justice in making Minister’s who are NOT responsible for, and who OPPOSED, the profligacy of the last government suffer for the actions of that previous government?

      The current government was elected to cut the cost of Parliament and of Government and they are doing that. They will be announcing further cuts in due course.

    • 37
      Blue Lady says:

      Don’t forget Brown bequeathed his Successor i.e. Cameron a £50,000 pay cut in one of his many spiteful last acts. This on top of Cameron’s voluntary 5% cut means he is only on £142,500 p.a. compared to Brown, the Socialist’s £198,000 p.a. Put into perspective, Alexander’s salary is nearly as much at the Prime Minister’s and should be reduced accordingly.

    • 76
      Balls' latest promo the Effnick Vote says:

      • 114
        Look on the bright side says:

        Don’t forget Guido that Mr and Mrs Bollocks have just had to give up twice as much as this young lad is getting and that is a thought that should cheer everyone up.

      • 151
        Bugeyes says:

        Well if I can’t get back on the gravy train using the indigenous white population I’ll do it with the immigrants who know how to rob much better,ask Vaz and Paul etc.

    • 105
      Willofthepeople says:

      Leave the lad alone- he got the job , he’s entitled to the pay

      • 133
        Broken down voter says:

        Aye. a lad doing a job that needs a man of proven ability and strength of character.
        Why not Ken Clarke?

      • 137
        Pissed off voter says:

        Aye. a lad doing a job that needs a man of proven ability and strength of character.
        Why not Ken Clarke?

      • 206
        Don't These Tories Sound Exactly the same as the New Labour mob says:

        Yeah, leave the lad alone and move on for Christ’s sake.

    • 245
      Zero says:

      Agreed. To go from zero to cabinet minister should mean being paid on an entirely different level. Don’t get where Guido is going with this…

      • 249
        Allan@Aberdeen says:

        After all, Danny has a track-record in business and finance which automatically makes him suited to be at the Treasury. Being a PR rep at a National Park in the Highlands is very demanding.

  2. 2
    anonymouse in the treasury skirting boards says:

    They should all eat coal and be forced to live in a cave!

    Get a life Guido, this is what happens and just as many Labour MPs have seen their pay fall by the equivalent amount!

    • 35
      Bob says:

      Guido Fawkes jumps the shark…

      • 95
        All in it together? Bollocks says:

        Why are we doubling the CCHQ wage bill?
        If they are only worth 35K out of government why are they now worth double that amount?
        Have they gained some new qualifications? No.
        Have they any more experience? No.
        Are they any more intelligent than yesterday? No.
        And did you see the dog’s dinner Andy Coulson, Steve Hilton et al made of the general election campaign? They managed to destroy a Tory majority, so they cannot be considered as successful people.
        This is the problem with David Cameron, and it is the same problem we had with Tony Blair: he is a liar. Not only is Dave a liar but he will say one thing and then go on to do another.
        Dodgy Dave cannot be trusted. It is David Cameron’s dishonest nature that will bring about the downfall of the coalition.

        • 164
          The War Party says:

          Not only are they unqualified they are hiring even more stupid fuckers and paying them to do their job out of our pockets while we have to take the cuts. There will be strikes soon and I will support them no matter what the political party behind them,so if Wavy and Clingon think divide and rule will work they can forget it.The old ways are over fuckers and you better wake up and take notice or what happened in Greece is fuck all to what will happen here.

  3. 3
    NeverRed says:

    Surely not sour grapes or envy from Guido!

    This has happened every time any MP gets a promotion to government.

    I would prefer to see the pay drops of all the rotten corrupt greedy thieving sods who have just been thrown out (too gently).
    Meanwhile prescot carries on troughing with his crony friends such as Gorbals mick.

  4. 4
    THE BISHOP RODGER ALLBOYS says:

    another government same shit
    i also see that next week we are going to start growing GM modified spuds in norfolk
    Spelman wasted no time in getting her nose in the trough then
    fucking hypocrites to a one

  5. 5
    Coalition coal man says:

    Come on Guido. You shifted to the Labour party now your boys are running the show?

  6. 6
    English John says:

    “Who (besides a politician) would argue that a lucky promotion justifies doubling your pay?”
    Me Me Me!!!

    • 38
      Oh and by the way says:

      “Guardian loses £19,520 an hour. GMG CEO bonus £143,000 total package £810,000. Guido’s blog literally infinitely more profitable.” ……. Twitter.

      Are we really “all in this together”?

      Not me for sure.

  7. 7
    Sir Trev Skint MP says:

    C’mon Guido FFS!!! – The bloke will become a hate figure in Britain, he will be dubbed the slasher, he will have to stand in front of hostile reporters and explain tough decisions knowing his old headmaster earns the same as him! and Rooney earns in one week what he earns in a year.

    Are you seriously suggesting anyone promoted to a high profile job should take a pay cut??? – Can’t understand your thinking here.

    • 14
      Steve Expat says:

      He took a 5% pay cur compared to his predecessor, who has just lost half his salary. It would be nicer if it were 10% or 20% but at least a start is being made on the cost of politicians (and SpAds, as was pointed out yesterday)

      Guido, you’re being slightly disengenuous here, the new lot are tyring their best to cut the costs from what the last lot of scum cost us. Danny is going to be the most unpopular guy in the country in a few weeks and months, don’t begrudge him serious wages for doing a very serious job…

      • 19
        Oh and by the way says:

        The 5% cut was a unilateral decrease in Ministerial salary. The looming cuts could and should affect all public sector workers, which includes MP’s and Ministers.

        If Dave, Georgie and Slasher have any balls then Ministers will be cut again…….. now that is leadership.

      • 20

        Correct, a very serious job, could spell the end of his career at the next election.

        Danny is in the same position as Laws, he is paying the price for giving Hague and Fox a tough time at the coalition talks.

        The Tories are using the Canadian model for austerity, but they, like the Mounties, ‘ always get their man’!

        • 67
          sockpuppet #4 says:

          All this talk of canada.

          They’ve got lots of stuff that people want to buy.

          • Gonk says:

            I’d like some wood and a lake please

          • sockpuppet #4 says:

            Wood. yep. thats what americans make houses out of.

            Lakes. yep. with dams, make lots of electricity (which they sell to the USA I believe), and they use that electricity to smelt aluminium.

            I indeed would like plenty of wood and plenty of lake if I could make millions of US$

    • 15
      Backwoodsman says:

      ‘Fraid I’m lining up with the regulars on this Fawkes ! Can you keep highlighting the cost of running the new MP’s expenses system though. As a number of us involved in private business have pointed out, the cost of the system devised by our bureaucrats is obscene!
      And another thing . In an earlier post you wrote ” Guido considers himself a bit of a fashionista”. Having seen various photos of you in your usual kit, it wouldn’t be unkind to say that is probably as delusional as miliband minor , describing himself as an international statesman.

    • 17
      albie here says:

      My answer is yes,so the guy is going to be the hate figure pinup until somebody else takes over,it’s money for old rope,what special experience does he have for a non job and why so much money for the same non job,we pay civil servants do the main work,it’s another high priced non job for the pigtroughers,no change from red to blue/yellew then.

    • 53
      Slasher Mackay says:

      Oh come off it Gudio!

      Another Friday!
      Another non-news day!
      Another non-news story!

      Drop it and Move On

      Next!

      • 58
        Ms Tipplepop says:

        May I suggest that when Guido produces a crap blog (non-) subject (like this one) he donates his e-commerce revenue for this time period to charity.

        Or is this why he does it? Crap subject = more revenue?

      • 145
        New Labour Troll/Conservative Troll (They all blur into one don't they) says:

        Nothing to see here, move along!

    • 178
      The Werkers says:

      Whats good enough for them is good enough for us

  8. 8
    The big D says:

    The first imperative was to remove Brown from power to stop further socialist destruction of the U.K.’s finances.

    The next one will be the resolution to a different problem.

    • 179
      Paxman says:

      Yeeesssss

    • 180
      cant hunter says:

      Apparently Brown is to attend the Commons next week; I presume he will get a memorable reception from the Con/Lib benches. I expect he will try and creep in unnoticed, sitting near the exit. When Lady Thatcher was defenestrated she was in the Commons almost immediately, but Brown …

  9. 10
    Anonymous says:

    This post is too self-evidently stupid to need rebutting.

    • 146
      New Labour Troll/Conservative Troll (They all blur into one don't they) says:

      Nothing to see here, please move along!

  10. 11
    Sarah Silo Legs says:

    My hero tried to cut the PM’s salary.

    It was the right thing to do.

  11. 12
    Anonymous says:

    Have never commented before as always seemed so sensible but this is just jealousy. If he has been promoted then he deserves his pay.

    • 149
      New Labour Troll/Conservative Troll (They all blur into one don't they) says:

      Jealousy that is all, please FFS move along now!

  12. 13
    Anonymous says:

  13. 16
    Yawn says:

    As most of the above says, this is absolute bullshit. You’re obviously struggling to get your teeth in to anything worth reporting and resorting to dull rhetoric. He probably is working twice as many hours as a result of his promotion, will undoubtedly have far more than 10 times the pressure on his shoulders and his entire life is going to be under the spotlight and under stress. I might not support his appointment but his pay is totally irrelevant. As Matthew Parris says, they should all be paid twice as much and expenses can be scrapped altogether.

    • 23
      albie here says:

      What happened to value for money,what job and recompense would this guy get in private business,what value is a non job.

      • 59
        Yawn says:

        What pay would he get for being near the top of the chain of command for one of the biggest divisions of a multinational corporation? Are you serious? A lot more! We’ve got admin guys near the top of their team who get paid this much!

        • 97
          NoMercy says:

          Would a multinational corporation have this man in command?

        • 118
          anon says:

          Your argument is that as one group are ovepaid then so should another.
          What a shit line.
          Only an idiot would push crap logic like that.

        • 185
          Dennis Skinner says:

          and they may be qualified for the job ,this Hunt is a loser.

  14. 21
    Piers F-D says:

    Good to see you getting a kicking in the comments for this moronic post, Guido. Being cynical about politics and polticians is entirely acceptable; criticising them for being paid (reasonably) well to do tough jobs is plain dumb.

    • 83
      Mr Ned says:

      Agreed. I do not care what he is paid personally as (a) he is not responsible for the putting this country into the mess it is in, and (b) the cuts in public expenditure that he will be introducing will be many orders of magnitude greater than his salary so, he will be costing us a lot lot lot less for us (the taxpayer) to pay him, than it cost us to employ Baldemort.

      If, in the duty of your employment you manage to save the company more money than it costs the company to employ you, then it matters not how much the company pays you as it is making a profit from it.

      The same applies here.

  15. 22
    Gary, Hong Kong says:

    Yes, I think we need to be careful about expecting everyone to wear hair shirts. I too have no problem with the likes of DA getting a salary increase upon moving into government. We want the best people in the jobs and he is presumably one of those.

    The bigger scandal is the fact that everyone in public service should earn less than the PM; the PM is in charge of everything how can there be anyone earning more than him? It is utterly illogical. Why don’t you focus on this issue as I think you will get more support and mileage form it.

    • 27
      Oh and by the way says:

      Agreed Gary HK. The numerous CEO’s in NHS Trust’s are an example of that.

      • 43
        Steve Expat says:

        …and the CEOs of councils, who seem to have a habit of walking out of one council with a year’s payoff – only to walk into another a few weeks later on another six-figure salary.

  16. 24
    Ed Balls (Leader of the Labour Party) says:

    In training this morning, Wayne Rooney got the ball and started running rings around Defoe, followed by Heskey, then King, then Cole and finally Lennon.”cones”, shouts cappello, “I said dribble round the fucking cones

  17. 25
    vuzelauv says:

    Surely you have something better to report, I am no supporter of the boy Dave or the Clegg, but this is a huge non-story.

    • 29
      MI5 says:

      I agree

      It is also not a huge salary to sort out the f’ing financial mess lest by ZanuLabour

      Let them get on with it in peace Guido

      It’s a hell of a job…

      • 153
        New Labour Troll/Conservative Troll (They all blur into one don't they) says:

        Look, for the pissing Love of God will you bastards please MOVE ALONG NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

  18. 26
    Gary, Hong Kong says:

    Do you change your views based on feedback from comments?

    I would hops so, because it does seem like you are wrong this time. I may add this is the only time you seem to have got something wrong.

    Keep it up.

    • 154
      New Labour Troll/Conservative Troll (They all blur into one don't they) says:

      OH JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE NOW FUCKING MOVE ALONG!

  19. 28
    DANGER says:

    Oh, shut up Guido. This line of attack is lame and getting tedious.

    • 155
      New Labour Troll/Conservative Troll (They all blur into one don't they) says:

      Please move along there is nothing to see here.
      Won’t you please move along?

      • 184
        Jobless says:

        just got a letter from HMRC demanding a refund to them of tax that I have already paid. The have changed my tax code 7 times in the last year with no different information or income on my part. I’m now out of work and can’t get another job and have to live off job seekers I don’t owe any tax but the presssure I’m under could kill me.

        other than that evrything’s fine in poorland

  20. 32
    Purpleline says:

    Guido- I think you are wrong here. Stop sniping at the sidelines and get behind the coalition. If they fuck up then we smash them but cut them some slack.

    O/T

    Cameron in Afghanistan so far has shown Brown up for the Scottish imbecile he is. A true master performance from a Tory party that really do love the military.

    No stupid bullet proof vests, running with the troops yes all stage managed to show difference, but I understand from the guys on the ground there, the troops are really behind him and the coalition

    • 56

      I know it’s cynical, but i’m sure the extra £15 a day pay increase helped.

      • 87
        I am Sick says:

        Bring them home now. Afghanistan is not worth one drop of a Brits blood. Dave may care, but the NWO he works for, certainly don’t.

      • 193
        Dennis Skinner says:

        getting them on side for when they are needed here

    • 103
      NoMercy says:

      Do you really want Guido to say good things about the coalition every day? i’m sure he could, people seem to be afraid that Guido is going to bring the coalition down on his own.

      • 152
        Purpleline says:

        Not really, all i am saying is pick your fights well and when they deserve it. This is a nothing story. How many of us change jobs or get promoted and get a bigger salary?

        The headline pay for the position was cut by 5% this job was a promotion so let the man enjoy it. If he fucks up then go after him. But I suspect this was just to fill column inches rather than start a debate.

        • 157
          New Labour Troll/Conservative Troll (They all blur into one don't they) says:

          Look you fucking bastards move along right fucking now!

  21. 33
    South of the M4 says:

    Cut the crap. Is the total salary bill lower, or higher then 1 month ago? Individual salaries matter not. Is less taxpayers money being spent on this than before. Yes or no.

  22. 34
    Swamp Creature says:

    Where’s Gordon?

    Rupert Tube, an arsehole from Gerrard’s Cross says:

    ‘I found him on a park bench, wearing a Chelsea Pensioner’s uniform and a faraway look. I shook him by the shoulder but all I could get out of him was “Zulus, thousands of ‘em”.’

    Hertfordshire Advertiser 08.06.10

  23. 40
    sceptical says:

    For each of the new lot who have higher salaries because they are in government, the old lot have had their salaries chopped. So the taxpayer is no worse off – in fact will be better off because of cameron’s 5% cut in cabinet salaries and (probably) less money shelled out for SPAds etc.

    Nothing to see here, Guido, please move on…

    • 160
      New Labour Troll/Conservative Troll (They all blur into one don't they) says:

      That’s what I’ve been saying!
      Please stop talking about what a bunch of greedy crooks we are and move along.
      Please.

  24. 41
    Margaret says:

    The important thing is that those NU Liebor ex-ministers have had big cuts in their salaries. Unfortunately the Cooper-Balls household income didn’t go down as much as I was hoping, but perhaps we can’t have everything.

    Anyone reckon that Blinky’s volte face on immigration might just have something to do with the fright he got at his own election count?

    By the way, Guido, any chance that you might have bought, AND USED, an iron before we see you on TV next? You know, that thing that heats up and smoothes wrinkles out of your clothes? Especially the shirt that you will no doubt be wearing with your spiffy suit.

  25. 42
    Anonymous says:

    I’m with you, Guido. These greedy Tory and Liberal Hunts are total bullshitting hypocrites.

    • 57
      albie here says:

      If you said all politician’s then I would agree with you but you missed out the worse load of lieing bullishitting hypocrites that this country has had to suffer, they are the ones who call themselves NuLiebour,jeez what a ragbag and bobtail load of high profile lumps of turds they have for der leader of the nu nu nu old Liebour party,they would be better going down to the dole office and hiring a leader at least they would get value for money and then they could call themselves a peopls party and not the filthy rich lieing troughers party .

  26. 44

    He’s been given one hell of a shitty job.

    • 64
      albie here says:

      He’s getting paid,he could say no thanks,a toilet attendant has a shitty job,he has a bloody good job and loads of pay and a bloody good pension.

  27. 45
    Hang The Bastards says:

    WHERE’s GORDON ????

    Can we have a daily update on the bong-eyed-Hunts movements ?

    He is more elusive than Elvis !

    LETS HOUND HIM IN HIS NEW ROLE AS A LOWLY MP !

    • 69
      Ms Toodlepip says:

      Can we all now please send Guido a ‘where’s Gordo?’ entry

      • 107
        I am Sick says:

        Brown will never show his face in Westminster again. Like all bullies, he is a total coward at heart. The gutless wonder will spend the rest of his days sculking around Kirkaldy, telling anyone who will listen to him, that he was treated badly by an ungrateful public, who did not understand his “economic genius”.

    • 108
      Gonk says:

      I’ll tell you where he is.
      Always located within 1000 nautical miles
      of any of the worlds trouble spots.
      First, he flew over the Gulf of Mexico,
      then Pakistan and Afghanistan.
      Then he went sailing in the Indian Ocean
      but left before he could cause serious trouble.
      Now he’s been seen in Japan.

    • 112
      Hound Dog ........ says:

      He’s alive and not very well – he’s suffering from ‘imaHuntiam’ syndrome!

  28. 46
    Jimmy says:

    Won’t you all stop picking on Danny Boy!

  29. 47
    albie here says:

    Think you hit a nerve Guido,private business wages are paid for by whatever it makes/sells and what value an employee can bring /make for the business,politician’s bring nothing except an expensive overhead,they have nothing of value apart from being bloodsuckers.

    • 70
      It's a larf innit .......... says:

      This Guido in drag fighting back !!

      • 121
        albie here says:

        No Guido does his own fighting using Guido’s blog name,I think we are still in deep doo doo and our new politico’s are showing themselves just as shit with our money/loaned and we are not getting value for money,I reckon value for an MP would be in the region of £20,000 +expenses using HMRC guidelines,they get more money if they show that they have aptitude and can the job as required.

  30. 48
    Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

    Obviously not much happening today. Nothing to see, move along there.

    How about turning your attention to the possibility that the drink driving limit might be halved so you cant even have a pint in the pub? How libertarian is that?

    No one wants to be run down by a drunk, but if you cant have one pint and drive safely you probably shouldn’t be behind the wheel anyway. This is a real pain for us yokels, what with no decent public transport nor hail-able taxis and pubs few and far between.

    Here’s my position. I accept the distinctly remote possibility that I might be harmed by someone whose had a pint as a reasonable trade of for being able to have one. Just one. Now what’s wrong with that?

    This should flush a few crypto-saints out if nothing else.

    • 113
      I am Sick says:

      It’s an EU directive, dressed up by the North report, with spurious “facts” / guestimates, for home consumption. Dave, is just following orders and pretending he is in charge, on this one.

    • 161
      Bogeyman says:

      But surely, if it saves just one lagered-up chav from being killed or seriously injured, it will be worth the closure of another 4,000 pubs.

    • 162
      New Labour Troll/Conservative Troll (They all blur into one don't they) says:

      Yes, you are quite right Titbrain, let’s all move along, eh?
      Nothing to see here!

      • 200
        Dick Tator says:

        I keep moving along, as requested, but you must be doing the same…

        BECAUSE YOU ARE STILL THERE. Please go away now.

        • 243
          ConservativeTrollLabourTrollConservativeTrollLabourTroll says:

          That’s because you aren’t moving along quick enough.
          Please move along quicker.
          Thankyou.

  31. 49
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    “Who (besides a politician) would argue that a lucky promotion justifies doubling your pay?”

    Some sort of trader. Who when is lucky with the meerkats makes out it was his intelligence, rather than luck.

    Does this mean we should all praise highly all those labour MPs who aren’t getting paid to be ministers any more.

  32. 50
    Taxfodder says:

    Haha Morning Guido, you seem to be on target this morning, plenty of squeaking from the Tory trenches…

    I love the smell of government hypocrisy hitting the fan in the morning!

    Wonderful stuff, sticky too!

  33. 52
    Selohesra says:

    Beaker should be the one to talk sense to that other muppet Obama

    Obama-ba do do d-do do
    Obama-ba do do do do
    etc

    At last business leaders and some fringe politicians stand up for BP – time foe Cameron to show some spine

    • 136
      I am Sick says:

      The whole oil spill farce is not about BP, it’s about the US Government banning oil exploration and taxing consumers of oil, via carbon taxes. The worse the disaster, the more Obama can justify raising taxes to “save the planet”. Shell offered fifty oil skimming ships to BP, designed precisely for such spills, BP and the Obama administration, turned them down. Make of that what you will.
      BP, like Goldman Sachs, will get a public hectoring, a slap on the wrist and Obama will get his new tax raising laws. American tax payers are going to be stung with huge eco / carbon taxes.
      Unfortunately, so will we.

  34. 54
    Vote for Ed please says:

    This post is so stupid – New job more responsibility more money simple. You normally get a pay rise in such circumstances. director is paid more than tea boy.

    • 119
      anon says:

      More responsiblilty more money. Yes, but how much?
      Double?
      Don’t talk fucking daft.

      • 203
        Vote for Ed please says:

        I would think that chief sec to Georgey boy is a great deal than twice the responsibility more than being MP or even Scottish sec especially now with devolution. If he sorts out the budget deficit and then starts hacking into the debt he will be more than worth it. (I am not saying that he is capable of doing this – but this is what we are paying him to do).

        lets think about something else like finding Gordon

  35. 60
    paypeanutsgetbeaker says:

    Well, Guido, either the MPs’ basic pay of £65,737 is at the wrong ‘rate’ or the ministerial salary of £134,565 is. Do you have an opinion?
    I suspect after 6 months in the job, if he lasts that long, with all the crap that will land on his head, he will feel he was well underpaid.

  36. 61
    Guido with a lump on his head says:

    What happened……??? er, i…. just started to type a good story when somebody hit me on the head and wrote some stuff about Danny Alexander being paid too much……. i need to call the police, i think my password has been compromised

  37. 62
    Anonymous says:

    guido really this is going nowhere. lets concentrate on the new austerity measures faced by ex government ministers.

  38. 65
    Tim says:

    Don’t be such a dick Guido. He’s doing a different job. Different jobs have different salaries.

    I hope you’re not implying that everyone in the country should be paid the same wage.

    • 165
      New Labour Troll/Conservative Troll (They all blur into one don't they) says:

      Nothing to see here folks please move along.

  39. 66
    Steve Expat says:

    O/T but for some reason no-one is reporting it this morning.

    Cameron has announced a doubling of the Opperational Allowance paid to troops when they’re in the ‘Stan, paid for by savings in the MoD and backdated to the date of the election.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article7148126.ece

    • 73
      sockpuppet #4 says:

      I heard that on Radio4.

    • 80
      albie here says:

      Steve that’s a pay rise that I agree with.

      • 109
        Steve Expat says:

        Absolutely.

        This cost only £56m, not even a rounding error in the MoD budget but a massive boost to those at the sharp end, who all too often are being asked to pay the ultimate price for their loyalty to their country.

        Sad that while Broon was happy to scorch the Earth in his last few months in office, he didn’t want to make such a gesture himself, for it surely would have reported far more then than it is being today….

  40. 68

    I’d like to talk about the following:-

    1) Union funding of Labour – how can it be stopped

    2) FOI requesting the audited signed-off accounts from the EU, none have been presented for 13 years, where does the money get spent?

    • 115
      Steve Expat says:

      1. If I were Davea I would agree to party funding reform such that a single individual, company or organisation connot donate more than x amount per year, where x is a five figure number. This would force the hand of the unions to have their members donate individually to Labour, while also addressing concerns that the Tories relied too much on a few rich individuals for support. LDs will of course be in favour of this so should be easy to get through and popular with the public.

      2. This is even easier – we are net contributers to the EU, we should stop contributing until they subject themselves to the same international accounting standards that they impose on the rest of us – or even better the new standards that they are trying to use to kill the City of London.

      • 147
        I am Sick says:

        Erm, you have a problem,

        1. Dave will not do it.

        2. Dave and Nick will not do it.

  41. 71
    Ed says:

    Doomed Labour’s £1.3 TRILLION last spending spree revealed: As the economy nosedived, your millions were wasted on grandiose schemes
    11th June 2010
    Comments (136)

    The extraordinary extent of Labour’s final spending spree – which cost the public purse £1.3trillion even as the economy was sinking – was laid bare for the first time last night…………….

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1285745/Labours-1-3-TRILLION-spending-spree-How-millions-wasted.html#ixzz0qWwgH400

    • 93
      Ratsniffer says:

      It was all part of labour’s spiteful “scorched earth policy”

    • 125
      Broken down voter says:

      £38.4m on Gypsy encampments. That must be Caroline Flint’s second home allowance.

  42. 74
    BREAKING NEWS says:

    GUIDO’S FRIDAY STAND-IN SACKED FOR INCONTINENCE

  43. 75
    President Cameron says:

    I want to talk to you today about British Petroleum, and how they have polluted the entire world with a British sponsored oil leak. We simply cannot allow this to happen, and my good friend President Obama agrees with me that BP must pay the price. This company is one of the few succesful British firms stil operating, so we must do everything we can to undermine it, see it broken up, and have it’s assets siezed by american oil companies, thus strengthening the USA’s rightful place as a leading oil consumer and supplier. It is the right thing to do. Thank you.

    • 106
      albie here says:

      Shh your not allowed to print such things,what about the special relationship,one sided but never the less.

  44. 79
    anon, anon, anon..... says:

    David Cameron is to host a Downing Street party for gay celebrities and campaigners as part of a concerted drive to woo the ‘pink vote’.
    The Prime Minister will throw open the door of Number 10 to a host of prominent gay figures next week to mark the annual Gay Pride celebrations.
    Both Tony Blair and Gordon Brown held receptions for gay activists during Labour’s 13 years in power, although Mr Brown faced a backlash last year after allegedly barring the gay rights activist Peter Tatchell

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1285704/Cameron-host-No-10-party-gay-celebrities-bid-woo-pink-vote.html#ixzz0qWyEc8WM

  45. 81
    Private Sector says:

    He’s still an MP, so actually what has happened is that he’s got an additional job for about £70K.

    I’m paid more than that, and while I reckon my job is challenging (and what’s more brings in about £2M profit for my company per year on sales of about £10M), I don’t reckon my job is harder than sorting out Gordon’s mess.

  46. 84
    Gonk says:

    Bloody hell Guido.
    Picked the wrong subject this morning.
    How about some firmer ground.
    Ah yes, Keith Vaz

    • 170
      New Labour Troll/Conservative Troll (they all blur into one don't they) says:

      Yes, move along from this Guido.
      Please move along?

  47. 86
    I hate New Labour says:

    I don’t you should judge how hard someone works based on the hours they put in to be fair.

    I imagine Brown ‘worked’ all hours god sent for example, didn’t mean he was worth paying.

  48. 89
    Jobless says:

    what chance of doubling the dole?

    in the light of there being no jobs why should I be made homeless and live in poverty whilst these politicos suffer on £140,000 a year? are they better and more deserving people than me? bastards. I fucking hate what has happened to this Huntry.

    • 92

      Do you still want to lease out your missus?

    • 139
      NeverRed says:

      Because Blair,Brown,Balls,Cooper,Mandelson etc.etc.etc.etc. were stuffing their pockets with taxpayers money and there is NO MONEY LEFT.

      Mr Balls would suggest you emigrate as he is totally against foreign workers coming here and taking British jobs!

      • 191
        Anon Disgusted at the Avarice of David Cameron says:

        Judging by the greed of the advisers even though there is no money left they intend to keep on stuffing their bank accounts as if there was.
        All in it together?

  49. 94
    anon, anon, anon..... says:

    Deliberately O/T….this thread is going nowhere

    Have you noticed that the majority of English flags are being flown upside-down?

    • 100

      Bring on the caption competition.

    • 111
      TV Addict says:

      I really appreciate the fact that the BBC have sent so many presenters, most of whom are scots, to cover England’s epic journey to the group stages of the world cup. The bbc really are everybody’s friend, going on about the world cup at every opportunity and scoffing at us back home because they’ve got freebie trips to South Africa paid for by us, the fucking stupid tv tax payers.

    • 116
      Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

      This is because South Africa is in the Southern Hemisphere.

    • 117

      Which way is up. I’m selling loads of flags. Mostly made in China so it only really helps BQ industries. Hats,specs and capes all going well. Stickers, so-so. The inflatable finger isn’t going well. Would need to get out the group before that kind of lunacy takes off in the pubs.

    • 143
      Stupid Boy says:

      Have I missed something?

      I thought all this hoo-ha was for the Red Cross charity

      I given cash to every flag carrier in Wimbledon!

    • 172
      New Labour Troll/Conservative Troll (they all blur into one don't they) says:

      Yes yes, this thread is going nowhere, let’s move along shall we?

  50. 96
    Spank Sinatra says:

    And so the selection procedure for Alexander was what exactly? Laws (appointed on merit, ex head honcho at JP Morgan etc etc) loses job for ripping us off. Replacement’s credentials are what exactly? Oh yes, Director of Communications for the Cairngorms National Park. Now that’s what I call impressive. His one and only job in what could be regarded as the ‘real world’. He’s a lightweight and promoted way beyond his pay grade as regards ability. That is the point. He also fluffs his lines on camera and is vacuous.

    Against the flow of the majority of posts (as though I give a shit), what is wrong with satire? I seem to be in a minority in thinking that someone who is about to tell the country to live off mung beans for the next decade suddenly gets to sit at the top table and can now afford to eat a la carte every day of the week.

    • 102
      anon, anon, anon..... says:

      I eat a la Carte evey night….choice of beans, fried eggs or fish fingers, with a side of chips

    • 127
      Jobless says:

      I eat off the cart – crabby lettuce leaves and mouldy potatoes, maybe a sprig of brown coriander if I’m lucky, scraps I tell ya – can’t afford to buy food anymore

  51. 99
    Taliban Airlines says:

    You are now entering a no-fly zone Mr Cameron.
    Turn around immediately or your helicopter will land prematurely.

  52. 101
    anon says:

    If ministers are so dim and weak that they need to pay these lackeys to agree with them then this does not bode well for Cameron’s government.
    Cameron’s cabinet is clearly made up of very poor quality people.

  53. 110
    Sir Everard Digby says:

    I think Guido’s comments are a symptom of the new era. The government does not seem to be using the ‘invent a Minister and send them onto every possible tv/radio station to annouce a new initiative’ strategy.

    In 13 years the media has expanded to meet the reporting demand created by the volume of drivel spouted by Labour. Now that source has dried up, the media will have to adjust. Guido is going to have to make this adjustment. he will be better placed to do so than the Beeb/Guardian who have no clue how to deal with a government whose primary job is to govern rather than talk about what they are/are not/doing., or making up a range of untruths.

    Of course this will hit Martin Day worst of all – he cut and pastes from other people’s cut and pasted articles…….sad.

  54. 120
    Ed Balls (Leader of the Labour Party) says:

    I see David Cameron visited Camp Bastion last night

    I have no idea who this guy Bastion is but I bet Mrs Cameron is fucking furious

  55. 122
    Ooops says:

    Fuck me! Are we all a bunch of moralising arseholes.
    The rality is these people are doing top jobs and desrve a decent pay. Rather than having a go at those in the true public service look at the arseholes running the BBC: £847,000; Willie Walsh £ 750,000 to name only two. If you want to have a go have a go at these.

    if we are going to get a grip then public bodies should not be paying more than what the PM gets and together that if around £200,000 + perks

    • 192
      New Labour Troll/Conservative Troll (they all blur into one don't they) says:

      Yes you bunch of moralising arseholes – MOVE ALONG!

      • 195
        foxy says:

        Heya Mr I voted for no one, lead by example and F*/ == soz “move along ” yer self .

        • 214
          Don't These Tories Sound Exactly the same as the New Labour mob says:

          I am not a Tory troll honest but I want you to move along.
          Please move along. Please.

    • 227
      Never trust a politician,they are notorious cheats and thieves says:

      yep these top jobbers are sorting out the fucking BBC not. CamerHunt supports them so he is not going to trim their wings,but we are,the public are moving to online TV and the BBC pigs are in for a kicking

  56. 124
    If I wanted appalling hatchet-job journalism, I'd buy the Grauniad says:

    This is idiotic.

    They’re being paid for their new jobs!

    And whether or not you think Danny Alexander was there by “accident”, why in hell should he accept the job for no increase in pay?

    The fact remains that this is a decrease on the net cost to the taxpayer.

    I fear this blog is losing its ability to find real stories.

  57. 129
    Rip Van Winkle says:

    Guido, you’re talking out of your anus.

    A decent manager gets decent pay. For the repsonsibility. If he is any good at his job, he’s on the golf course 4 days a week. He manages good people he appoints around him and they get the job done.

    You’re paid for the RESPONSIBILITY not the hours worked.

  58. 134
    thehotwombat says:

    Guido if he’s CS to the treasury he’ll sure as hell be working more hours. He’ll have more responsibility, and quite importantly, more to lose. As Robin Day put it, a “here today, gone tomorrow” politician.

    I think their pay may be too high, but you can’t upset the applecart too soon. bear in mind that (and im sorry if im repeating earlier comments), a 5% drop is at least 4 times the size of the average prospective cut by the Treasury.

    Now please go back to bed and get out on the correct side.

  59. 137
    Wine Buff says:

    Guido

    what is your view on the 2009 En Primeur release

    all the experts saying it could be magnificent

    • 150
      anon, anon, anon..... says:

      Guido is cutting back….Beaujolais Nouveau

      • 163
        Lizzie says:

        Or maybe…Chateau La Box.

        • 186
          Pissed off voter says:

          Why empl*y this callow youth when Ken Clarke, a Chancellor with an impressive record, sits idly by?

          • thehotwombat says:

            Because Osborne would always be looking over his shoulder. You don’t tend to put more experienced people than you in a place of subordination.

  60. 142
    Pissed off voter says:

    Why employ this callow youth when Ken Clarke, a Chancellor with an impressive record, sits idly by?

    • 239
      thehotwombat says:

      Because Osborne would always be looking over his shoulder. You don’t tend to put more experienced people than you in a place of subordination.

  61. 158
    Lizzie says:

    Labour spent more on sofas!

  62. 159
    Harridan Harmanhater says:

    In order to offset any increased cost to the Taxpayer of the Coalition Government, I have instructed all Liebour MPs, SpAds, researchers, bag-carriers, placemen, journeymen and general hangers on to take an immediate 104% cut in remuneration.

    I would like to thank Gordon Brown for proposing this measure and Liam Byrne for pointing out that the Country has no money left.

  63. 166
    BBC Manager says:

    Now we are aware of some criticism from some extreme quarters ( tv tax license payers) but you must bear in mind that we are covering an international event here. It is the biggest sporting event in the world. World leaders attend, business is pursued and everyone has a good tme. That’s why we have sent Nicky Campbell and all of our Scottish broadcasters to cover the event. John Peinaar has gone so he can debate the chances of Englan winning in a recession. Laura Kuenssberg has gone to evaluate in what ways the UK can learn from the political dynamism of David Beckham. You see, we are trying our best to bring you as full a service as possible.

    • 189
      a wenger ... says:

      Thank you so very much for taking the trouble and time to explain that to us all – we are very grateful indeed – I knew the BBC would be doing the right thing! Thank you very much for your considerable fore-thoughtfulness which will without doubt improve the chances of our brave football team winning the most important sporting competition in the world.

    • 215
      Wayne says:

      vote for the voting party

  64. 168
    Anonymous says:

    Poor bloke’s scottish so at the tail end of his life.

    • 229
      restandbthankfull says:

      Next you’ll be telling us 97% of Scots are alcoholic or smokers or obese or, or or you get my drift. Thanks for the laugh.

      I wonder what the self same results would be if the survey talked about in the press this morning was taken in under privileged areas of the whole of the YUK.

  65. 171
    Liar Byrne says:

    For anyone wondering where Mandevilson and McDoom are, here’s your answer-

  66. 174
    Anonymous says:

    He’s Scotch so prolly at the end of his life. Have some dignity.

  67. 177
    The Dotted Minimalist says:

    Lennie Tristano’s “DIGRESSION”

    http://www.destination-out.com/media/tracks/Tristano_Intuition.mp3

  68. 183
    Anonymous says:

    “Is he working twice as many hours?”

    How very communist.

  69. 187
    Ed Balls (Leader of the Labour Party) says:

    I’ve got no control, I can’t escape, I can’t see an end, I can never return and I need space.

    I’m never buying a keyboard from Poundland again.

  70. 188
    Anonymous says:

    What exactly is your complaint? This has been the system for years, but only now you’ve a problem with it? Running out of things to complain about I guess.

  71. 194
    Don't These Tories Sound Exactly the same as the New Labour mob says:

    There is one thing that this thread has proved beyond any doubt: the Conservatives are just as bigger spinners as the New Labour party.
    If they spend all their energy on defending the indefensible their administration will be a complete waste of the country’s time and money.

  72. 201
    Head Lizard says:

    I just heard a cop on TV say anonymous hearsay evidence is admissible. I wonder if it was against him would it be? What is Dave going to do about this?Habius Corpus etc?

  73. 205
    Never trust a politician,they are notorious cheats and thieves says:

    remember that well.

  74. 211
    Never trust a politician,they are notorious cheats and thieves says:

    You could only use 4 fingers for acab,all coppers are bastards.But for MP’s you can use all 5 ampab

  75. 212
    adayoffinlieu says:

    Right, whilst Guido’s away, lets start our own cartoon competition. We provide the caption and when his Nibs gets back he can sort out the cartoon.
    I’ll start.

    ‘Guido was just starting his first duty free can of Guinness, when he wondered if he should have told his blog readers that he’d gone on holiday?’

    • 238
      The Two-oss Trucker says:

      My thoughts entirely – but then I thought we might all play a game of Virtual Snap

      May I be so bold as to commence with the 3 of spades

  76. 213
    Harold Wilson says:

    I think I said this at the Brighton Conference

  77. 219
    Eyespybloggers says:

    Guido hasn’t Tweeted for 3 hours now, is he taking an extended dump or perhaps he’s taken delivery of his 50″ LCD TV and is struggling to tune it in?

  78. 221
    Gambler says:

    Guido take a look at the IP’s. I wager you are being trolled to fuck by the very party’s trolls you helped into Government.

  79. 223
    restandbthankfull says:

    It seems to me that Cameron cut the rate of a minister’s pay be 5%. The current ministers are getting the going rate minus 5% – what’s the problem. They deserve to be paid a decent wage considering the task they have to do to get this country bacl on its feet.

    I do think, however, that the amount of “holidays” they get should be cut dramatically. I know they say they have their constituencies to look after but I am sure they can do both – after all if they couldn’t they should have refused the cabinet jobs and focused on their constituency jobs.

  80. 230
    Never trust a politician,they are notorious cheats and thieves says:

    You own a small shop and you catch the assistant helping herself to some of the contents of the till. You sack her. 6 weeks later you hire her again and double her wages.That’s what the population of the UK just did. So what does that tell you?

  81. 233
    BREAKING NEWS - Austerity Chief Secretary’s Pay Up 104% Last Month ... says:

    News, Star & Standard

  82. 240
    Gypsey Town says:

    Our state funded camps are now no go to the rest of the UK,and that includes the cops.naflo

  83. 244
    A jock says:

    Why is it always a jock taking charge of the nation’s purse?. Strange since govt won’t allow Scotland extensive fiscal powers.

  84. 247
    Anonymous says:

    “Who (besides a politician) would argue that a lucky promotion justifies doubling your pay?”

    The FTSE 100? Seriously, get real. The responsibilities of a Cabinet Minister are huge compared to a backbencher. If you believed in pay equality across whole economy I’d have some sympathy for your point of view, it would at least be consistent. But you don’t, so I don’t.

  85. 250
    Kered says:

    They’re all at it again, back to the trough!

  86. 251
    Disco Biscuit says:

    I think most people who receive a promotion would expect to see their pay rise?
    Are you becoming a communist, Guido? Not like you to suggest we should all earn the same wage…

  87. 252
    Young Neil says:

    Oh Beaker, Beaker, because Beaker
    Oh Beaker, Beaker, because Beaker
    Is so productive

  88. 253

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