Spin Room Verdict
Dull with no big thrills or spills. Maybe it won’t be the TV debates that decide. The consensus tomorrow will be that Cable benefitted the most…
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Tom Harris bemoans the public’s attitude to politicians…
“Mr Oborne echoes the lazy, anti-politics whine we hear so often these days, all based on the absurd notion that politicians were once loved and only fell out of public favour during the expenses scandal. He should take a walk to the Strangers’ Bar. But not to sup with the patrons he seems to despise so much, dearie me, no; he should instead look at the paintings on the corridor outside the bar, which depict the devastating fire which consumed most of the Palace in 1834. And he should reflect on the fact that on that dramatic night, as the Commons went up in flames, a crowd gathered on the South Bank to clap and cheer.”
Focus group time. says:
The thing that Dave needs to work out is which group is more likely to vote Conservative. Mad swivel-eyed loons or mad homosexuals wishing to get married.
…Apart from the bit right at the end where he got caught scratching his bollocks on camera…
actually, some folk were watching solely in the hope that they’d get to see exactly that… lib dems are a funny bunch.
we’re all laughing at Georgie Peorgie together
We’re all quite unsurprisingly mundane together.
Trust Brown’s judgment, Brown robbed everyone’s pension in 1997 and is now wondering what should be done to finance people in their old age- Brown won’t let you down. Brown sold our gold when it was at its lowest price costing the UK £7 billion pounds- Brown won’t let you down. Brown improperly financed the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, thousands of people lost their lives because Brown did not provide enough money. Brown’s denied this in complete contrast to the evidence of military chiefs. He then realised he did not fund the wars properly and wrote to confirm he was wrong- Brown won’t let you down. Brown is the one who was given a good economy and now it is bankrupt- Brown won’t let you down. Brown still claims for a second home that he does not have, brown won’t let you down. Brown recently told the country- I won’t let you down. He cannot be trusted. Brown has let you down for 13 years, it is time for change, vote him out.
why were all those people laughing at me David?!?!
+sob+
Boo hoo hoo hoo…
Boo hoo hoo hoo….
Check out my fan club singing the Abbot rap
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St. Vince found it a strain standing for so long, was hopping from foot to foot. Veins troubling him?
Who ate all the Pies ?
Who ate all the Pies ?
you fat bastard, you fat bastard
I ate all the Pies
We lost.
You, me, our children.
All I saw was three slavemasters deciding the best way 61,000,000 of us could be put to best use.
How they applauded.
See you all tomorrow at 9.30, Southwark Crown Court where three slavemasters are on trial for abusing their slaves. Us.
Oh, no. You’ll be busy, won’t you. Toiling dem fields, massa.
you mean FOUR pigs don’t you Fatbore ?
Boy George did have the best suit though. Saville Row?
Does it really matter who “won” the debate this evening – it’ll all be forgotten within 48 hours.
In the REAL debate, the only way that Labour have any chance of winning this election is if Brown wins by an absolute mile, Clegg comes in a very credible second, and Cameron comes in lower than 177th.
It’s over, Socialists.
Do you even live here ?
You seem blissfully unaware that first past the post means it’s the Conservatives who have to get a commanding lead to win a majority.
Must try harder.
Cable benefited. He was in the centre and had a partisan audience behind him, but George was good. Alistair fluffed it.
and his fluffy eyebrows
Vince Cable… arrrrrgh! Why are people so conned by this wanker?
All you need to know is he started off as a Labour councillor in Glasgow and he reads the FT now and again. Although most of Labour started off as councillors in Glasgow, not many read the FT, not many can read the FT.
Yes, barefoot, it’s all a conspiracy…Ch4 packed the audience with crazy Lib Demmers – that must be the only explanation for Cable’s reception!
vote for me. I will sort it all out
Which one will make the final of Britain’s Got Talent?
It wasn’t his bollocks, it was his second home allowance wad – far more precious!
No Liberal Democrat MPs in London take a second home allowance.
No MP of any party in London takes a second home allowance as it was never allowed in the first place.
There are NO liberal democrat MPs in London, that’s why.
There are plenty of Lib Dem MPs in London (including Vince Cable) and none of them took any second home expenses. Compared with, say, Tory shadow home secretary Chris Grayling, who claimed for a second home despite owning four of his own properties in London and living only 17 miles from Westminster (in the constituency next to the aforementioned VC). And this will be the man in charge of catching CRIMINALS when the Tories get in…
Multi-millionaire Tory George Osborne rebuked over mortgage claim
Multi-millionaire MP George Osborne is to be ordered to pay back hundreds of pounds he overclaimed on his expenses.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1244517/Multi-millionaire-Tory-George-Osborne-DID-breach-expenses-rules-flipping-450-000-mortgage.html
We need more muli-millionaires in this country. Most people would agree unless you happen to be a marxist prick with a chip on your shoulder.
Multi-millionaire? He’s not. His dad is. Any money the Osbornes have amassed is by starting a world class furnishing and fabrics business employing thousands of British workers and producing beautiful products which people want to buy the world over.
He’s quoting the Mail stupid.
Those Daily Mail marxist pricks with a chip on their shoulder. LOL
He quoted the ‘multi-millioanire’ phrase in all three of his three fucking sentences. Chippy marxists have a pre-occupation with other people’s wealth.
They weren’t his fucking sentences they were the Mail’s stupid.
That’s what quoting means fuckwit.
Try reading the article as that’s how it appears thicky.
It was his post, he chose the sentences. Keep on chipping, comrade.
So Brown’s not the only one with Balls then?
Cable,the only way to get your leccy
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oops wrong pic
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Saint Vincent of commerce gets more irritating every day.
Better that than scratch someone else’s.
Gotta say George did OK
If George Osborne is supposed to be the weak link of the Tories – on his performance tonight the other parties don’t stand a chance. He argued his point, didn’t go for cheap applause and really appeared to understand his brief. His youthful nimble thought processes made the competition look staged and overly rehearsed. In short – the weakest link is the Labour government.
I agree. Mr Osborne came across as restrained but believing what he said. Cable is just an overblown idiot;but much loved by Channel 4 (socialists murthy and snow). Darling is maybe a nice man, but he’s obviously got a character flaw by being in the socialist labour party.
I’d much rather see Conservative MPs really kicking shit out of the socialists – the genetic defective socialists in the labour party and the barking mad socialists in the libdem party. That’s the frustration for me – why for 13 years haven’t the Conservatives kicked the shit out of them – often and without mercy.
Agreed. The boy done good. There’s a new kid in town and those old wafflers should get lost.
We try to make our spin a bit more subtle and less obvious love.
No cash for you.
Don’t be silly! normal sane people are happy to slag liebour off for free.
She was lavishing lickspittle praise on Osborne dear.
You simply don’t know what you’re talking about.
Must try harder. No cash for you either silly.
Don’t be silly! normal sane people are happy to slag liebour off for free.
You’re still not getting any cash silly.
I agree with this.
I thought he was streets ahead of the other two – who both came across as old and bumbling – with his far more dynamic and believable approach. I read the comments elsewhere, that he was sneering and arrogant and I wonder if these people actually watched the debate at all.
Uninspiring!
Even more uninspiring..
Didn’t the Limp Dick party accept a £2.4 million donation from a convicted fraudster. Why haven’t they given it back eh Vince?
But, but, Vince said in his matter of fact way, that the LibDem’s are not beholden to rich benefactors, so it MUST be true. Isn’t it?
Vince Cable is a joke and the fact that he has managed to pull the wool over everyones eyes is symptomatic of the state of this sorry nation. Give me strength!!!
Should have had SNP’s John Swinney on to spice things up a bit.
Too much control from the chair. The audience were stopped from contributing. Too staged.
Too many soundbites, obvious questions from the lifeless chairman. A chair would have had more charisma.
what do you expect with a muzzy running it
Er – I think you’ll find he’s a Hindu.
He’s a scouser, though, so not all good…
Really? Cable came across as a cheap populist with zero policy, a kind of Student Union debater crossed with one of the old men off the Muppets.
No – he came out as a sensible father figure to be fair
Labour won’t want to hear that. Every ‘sensible old Vince’ vote is one less ‘benefit of the doubt’ for Alistair vote. Watch Labour go hard after Vince now.
Yeah… remember “All the talents”? We’ve had thirteen years of soundbites and very little else! Oh well…. you can’t have everything!!
“we’re all in it together”
“tough on clones tough on the causes of clones”
Vince went for the cheap shots – are the Liberals really a socialist party? Why don’t the Greens, Communists and Liberals merge!
>>> Why don’t the Greens, Communists and Liberals merge!
They could call themselves the Marx Brothers.
they could call me Dave Blair
***APPLAUSE***
Yes, he’s playing on the ‘kindly uncle’ theme.He’s a viper in sheeps’ clothing.
a slithering ewe
Such a phony. Scary that people don’t see through him.
Did someone call?
can I join in ?
Dull, limp and lifeless………
apart from where everyone was laughing at Osborne
that was pretty funny
fuck
arse
Drink!!
I was trying to tell LFOB to try viagra but it kept blanking
In a word: Bollocks.
Via YouTube: The Chancellor’s Debate.
Depends what combination of pills they go with for Jonah.
It’s going to take the right combination of uppers and downer to get him through it, there are three debates, they are bound to get it wrong in one of them.
When they get it wrong watch him screw up.
I guaruntee he will major league fuck up in one of the degates.
W.W.
“I though I did really jolly well David all things considered. At least I didn’t poop in my shorts live on television. Ha Ha! Why aren’t you laughing David ? Wh-wh-why is Boris here with his Oik kicking boots on David ??? No, no, not that David please!!”
“Ouch! Yarroo!”*
*continued for several hours
Watch the three debates, and I guaruntee your great retard of a leader will fuck it up big style, make a fool of himself, he can’t help himself.
The joke is on you, for letting a madman lead your party into oblivion.
W.W.
Time to stock up on popcorn. It is going to be hilarious watching the Prime Mentalist make an even bigger horses arse out of himself on live tv.
Not just his party but the whole fucking country.
This is the fall of Rome
One day you fuckwits might find something better or accurate to say intead of constantly parrotting like mongs
“You must be for Brown coz you don’t arselick the Conservatives”.
Fuckwittery of the highest order order.
Cast Iron Guaranteed!
Will it really be live? My money is on a 20 minute loop so they can edit/cut it like big brother. Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors….
You pillock Labour troll
tory troll twerp
No way to tell. Stuff recorded and broadcast on studio HD cameras never loses its ‘as live’ freshness. Somewhat like frozen peas.
two of the little pink ones and one of the big red ones seem to be working for him over the last few weeks, its the five big blue ones, that i have to take whenever i see him to stop me being sick that worries me,michael.
Nice of Darling to defer to Osborne continually.I expect there were a few nokias flying around Downing Street this evening but hopefully the secretaries left on time.
There’s only one criteria for the coming election… that is to punish the incumbent government and consign them to history…. and wait for the next lot to f*ck up and then punish them.
apart from the english lesson, you don’t disagree with just chucking them out though?
so for one day every 4 years we get to feel good then its back to standing on our heads in shit.
er, that would be English lesson but I do agree with the sentiment of your post.
that’s about the measure of it.
twats
Gideon will have exceeded expectations by not actually bursting into tears or soiling himself, so he’ll chalk this up as a win.
Unfair – George did fine. The Liberals do go for the cheap shots don’t they. Alistair did come across as likeable but then George did soften after about about 15 minutes and came across as likeable as well.
George did good. He’s not aggressive, and that’s a pleasant change from the head bullies in Newlabour.
I don’t want likeable! I want competent. And the three of them, mixed together in a bowl, haven’t got an economic competent bone in their bodies. It doesn’t bode well for UK plc.
Vince was the only one able to get anywhere near the truth since it probably won’t affect his near zero chance of serving in a government.
George isn’t such a prick as to announce that he’s going to slash the Civil Service, Local Government and scroungers, since there are too many of them.
Darling seemed feeble; stuttering lessons off McTwat maybe?
Backdrop of this is that the electorate don’t really understand the situation and want to cut the deficit while seeing public spending rise.
So it’s no use listening to what they say, you have to GUESS.
My guess is that the Tories might screw up, but that Labour certainly will, having demonstrated their expertise abundantly in the last decade.
Now they’re going to fuck about with football. Christ Almighty.
You’ll get competent. Ken Clarke advising, George doing the legwork — unless you prefer Balls of course.
Oh yes please!
I do so like Balls in my mouth ducky.
idiots.
How bloody difficult is it to say the obvious? If you are in debt then you cut your unnecessary spending (you make savings….grow your own veg, start actually cooking rather than buying M&s ready meals) then you might get an extra job (easier to get when the NI is not increased). You cut your bills, You pay your debts and increase your own productivity in the process.
Osbourne is proposing nothing different to this in respect to a whole country yet he is not being understood.
Because under Labour people have become infants… ”it doesn’t matter if I owe £20,000 on my credit cards, I’ll win the lottery or the X Factor next year.”
”it doesn’t matter if I owe £20,000 on my credit cards, I’ll win the lottery or the X Factor next year.”
I’ll vote for you chuck! what will you be singing?
well said!
Darling, Brown and the rest of the incompetent Labour thieves should be on trial for economic crimes not debating the ‘what ifs’ and ‘maybes’ in TV studios with others.
I mean, it’s not as if Labour fucked up the country’s economy over the past 13 years or anything, so let’s have everyone start with a clean slate.
What a crock…
Fucking hell give me Nick Griffin, Nigel Farage and David Davis any day over this bunch of retards.
Interesting… probably best not to say that out loud though eh !
I do wish Osborne would interrupt more. I got pissed off with darling scoring stupid party political points. As for Cable, I don’t get it. He’s a cretin.
Darling came across as weak and very cheap with his party points. I thought Osborne came across well – it was apparent he was refusing to stoop to Darling’s level. If Osborne is the weakest link, as Labour believe, then Labour are fucked because a lot of wavering Labour voters will have decided to go LibDem or Tory after tonight.
What was going on with the Lib Dem clapping. Wasn’t the audience under orders to be quiet ?
As ever Lib Dems abuse the rules.
The studio was stuffed with libdums.
course it was love
What might explain the excessive clapping, by some, for old Cable is the audience are, on the one hand, by and large, still cowed by the moral blackmail of decades of propaganda that the ‘Tory’ party are evil toff’s, so folk cannot be seen to applaud them in public. While at the same time now know that the liebore party are, at best, incompetent, so therefore applaud what is publicly a safe option. The real test is when they get in the privacy of the ballot booth.
Audience seemed Lib Dem dominated. That’s why Cable got applause over the others.
riiiiiiiight
LOL!
Yeah
Sure mate you keep telling yourself that….
Mmmm. Vince getting applause. Perfect. Jackass leftie vote split. Tasty. Mmmmm. Tastes like Labour humiliation.
As it should be.
Yeah but where will the swing voters go? Tory or Limp Dim?
Don’t think that would have changed many minds.Cable is already very popular with the public at large (although not in this parish), probably the Lib Dems best asset at the moment.
Osbourne didn’t implode and would have done a lot to detoxify the Tories with his calm, measured answers. Darling and Cable both rounded on him but he held his own. I don’t think there will be any articles tomorrow about replacing Oz with Ken Clarke.
no, no, no, no, no.
the best bit was when everyone laughted at Gideon.
priceless!
That’s so funny and your so clever.
No, you’re so funny and you’re so clever.
Nah, it’s just the cheap shot jibe at the old rich boy stereotype, always goes down well – it’s an easy clap – certainly easier than trying to explain to the plebs economic incentive (the NI cut) will be a bigger growth stimulus than perpetuating unaffordable government spending. Well done George.
Party Politics aside, Vince cable got the crowd clapping a hell of a lot more than the other two and gave a straight answer on cuts to the NHS which clearly impressed the guy who asked it.
Why didn’t Darling or Osborne nail him about the treasury claim he made? Missed opurtunity to make him look like a pillock there!
Ass a result Cable walked away the clear victor, the question is did any floating voters actually watch it?
Awww it was entertaining tv, AD waffling and saying nothing, GO being shifty and at the end, in his last minute almost arrogant. VC was kinda cute and fluffy grandad…and an economist!
Staplers flying in no 10, CCHQ probably trying to work out how to distance themselves from GO…and the lib dems want the swingometer replaced with a clapometer, cos VC clearly won on the audience reaction…hmmmmmm
Cable predicting the recession/global credit crisis? I think Andrew Neil expertly debunked that myth in his interview with him last Sept. Cable is a nasty little spinner – see his sad apology today for spinning the ‘Treasury asked me in to take charge” story he thought he would get away with. There is not a single speech or article he has written where he predicted the credit crunch – and he had to admit that to Andrew Neil.
But he has a free run as nobody will really bother pulling his policies apart.
At times like Guido said he sounded like an old Socialist – I suspect he really is.
I thought darling was nervous and verbose but Osborne can’t stop smirking/sneering and that images persists after the words are forgotten.
The soundbite on Sky is Darling trouncing Osborne on NI reductions – his only good attack of the night. That’s what most Brits will see as nobody watches Channel 4.
Cable is definitely a big government man.
Tory MP Peter Lilley in 1997:
“With the removal of banking control to the Financial Services Authority…it is difficult to see how and whether the Bank remains, as it surely must, responsible for ensuring the liquidity of the banking system and preventing systemic collapse.
The coverage of the FSA will be huge; its objectives will be many, and potentially in conflict with one another. The range of its activities will be so diverse that no one person in it will understand them all.
The Government may, almost casually, have bitten off more than they can chew. The process of setting up the FSA may cause regulators to take their eye off the ball, while spivs and crooks have a field day.”
Peter Lilley is, unfortunately, one of those intelligent MP’s that not enough people listen to. In 1997 everyone was listening to Blair, and look where that got us.
…right on the ball unlike Alistair Darling who was arguing that Northern Rock – an institution that securitised 120% mortgages and funding itself in short dated money markets- was a well run small bank. FSA have not a clue.
Roll up Roll up
Everything must go
Doors and loads of big knobs for sale
Vince managed to get in his “I predicted the banking crisis” and we can see from the reaction that this is what a lot of people still actually believe.
Darling came across as a grumpy old man, with a short temper. No wonder he is friends with Gordon. Were HBOS really a responsible bank? I would be interested to know exactly what job his son that he referred to when talking to the indebted student does.
Cable got the biggest applause from the audience, but didn’t really seem to have any solutions to the mess we are in.
Mission accomplished for George. He kept calm and came across as sane. He attacked Labour’s terrible economic record and mentioned tax cuts a lot.
No real knock outs, Cable won the audience, but the Tories are winning the war.
Good analysis apart from Darling’s obvious frit.
Frit? Perhaps.
De-mob happy, certainly.
He didn’t say HBOS was a responsible bank.
He actually made a very good point in that HBOS and N Rock managed to destroy themselves by not holding enough reserves when the liquidity went out of the market. This is not what happened to the “Casino banks” who were up to their necks in shit securities.
you missed the bit where George was bashing away at the Banks happily
Vinnie was able to attack Darling and Osborne with great ease. The audience and viewers will warm to him because he used humour to get his ideas across.
Both Darling and Osborne were on the defensive, neither being able to go on the attack easily. Osborne defended his views better than Darling did. Vinnie won this round.
Your name sums you up!
VC did appear jittery and nervous but he’s always like that. When you have nothing to lose and everything to gain you can afford to be more open and less defensive.
Darling was seriously shit scared. Osborne did well. St Vince also but he obviously does not count in the grand scheme.
Brown will be apoplectic!
Darling looked like a grumpy thunderbird puppet.
Looks like Sam the eagle out of the muppets-
http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/0/02/Sam02.jpg
I agree with everything I say
At the risk of sounding like a non-competative sports day I think they all carried themselves well. I could almost respect Darling given that he and Mandleson prevented Brown’s second stimulus package but he should have Geoffery Howe’d Brown by now.
There is still time and he just might!
AD and GO passed the “Would I have a pint with them?” test.
VC was smug, rude and illiberal.
Channel 4 instant poll on the winner:
Darling & Osborne on 32%, Cable wins on 36%
very strange as both ozzy and Darling were on 34% when I did mine.
God help us.
I knew that would pull tat out
I got my sums all wrong like Osborne. oops!
disappointing and too sanitized after all the hype but wait for crappy brown
Sky headline: “Chancellor Hopefuls Go Head-To-Head In Debate”
BBC (on the same subject): “Darling launches Tory tax attack”
Good ole unbiased reporting from the beeb, “This is what we do”.
The BBC are digging their own grave!
The BBC has got just days to decide whether they want to exist after the General Election
Its getting broke up intp local station, indy,wanna buy one
Mr Cameron stressed that he supported the BBC
He said: “The BBC is an important national institution. I want to see it prosper and succeed and be a fantastic cultural asset.”
He added that he was a “supporter of the licence fee”
Flog the BBC to a private equity fund with orders to break it into at least 20 pprivate parts…!!
Anyone giving odds on whether Russia Today will own ЯРАѴДА by year-end?
Give me a fucking spade and I’ll help them! How many spades have we got left in the UK?
Millions!!
…bring on Kelvin Mackenzie; he’ll sort the bastards out, smartly!
BIG WOBBLY TITS FOR ALL!
Cable and Osborne both did well – Darling couldn’t get away from the fact that his team were in charge while the mess happened.
Most of those listening to Labour’s earlier slurs about Osborne would not have thought the man in front of them was the weak newbie they had been led to believe he was.
Would be interesting to see if one of the LD requirements for a Lib/Lab coallition is that Cable goes to No.11..?
Was less than exciting stuff though, will be very different with the Clunking Fist himself in the mix!
Darling doesn’t know the difference between debt and the deficit. He said he had a choice on how much of the savings in spending he had recently found he could use “to pay down debt”. He is years away from paying down debt. The forecasts assume colossal increases in debt for years to come.
I noticed that too. Wonder when CH4 will do an educational documentary about both.
I’m not entirely unbiased, but …
I thought Cable came out best.
Darling did better than I expected – acknowledged the mess, and gave the impression oftrying to move in a consistent direction [but little evidence of it being the right direction ...]
Poor Osborne looked like that chap who turned up for a job interview at the BBC and ended up on live television being asked about a business takeover. Out of his depth. God, Conservative Central Office are going to have to work hard to keep him away from the cameras [tour of West Wales marginals anybody?]
Where are you from? Not this planet!
How are the bunker boys this evening?
George was great! Laid back and non-aggressive. Nice guy!
thanks again mum
Well in a world of tits the prick will of course stand out.
I was a min wage cu*t driving a taxi in 2001 and could have told you we were borrowing too much and houseprices were getting too high.
The .com bubble burst was the recession we should have had.
A less severe correction to an overheating market not this fucking Cherynobal size meltdown we got now.
Agreed. Public spending took off then due to stupid government IT initiatives to employ all the software writers who probably should have been out of work.
A useful exercise, Ozzy Osborne is too reserved though increasing in confidence, St Vincent de Cable is still angling for a hung parliament and Deluded Darling still argues that high taxation makes poor people less poor
Good summary, especially the last bit re Darling. – I’d never thought of it that way. How can high taxation possibly make poor people less poor?
I found it all quite boring, I still trust Darling more than the other two !
maturedatingonline.org
still shagging your mum
Time for your medicine, Paul
Hopefully that means some electrodes attached to his knackers.
++BREAKING NEWS++
George just ruled out the death tax!
CCHQ in complete disarray
Doh!!
its still a we better stay the fuck away from that one.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5iq5feuhIbTKRP-xE0BP_2vtACc3A
> its still a we better stay the fuck away from that one.
translation please ?
No no no — the Government (Labour) has just ruled out the 10% death tax.
The Conservatives have never wanted a death tax and refused to take any further part in the talks when it became the front runner.
so they will back the care proposals it now it’s gone?
Darling said size did not matter on banks, seemingly unaware of the dangers created at RBS and Lloyds by the shotgun marriage Gordon Born encouraged encouraged. He claimed Northern Rock had enough capital in 2007, apparently unaware that the Banking regulator in the last two years has instructed all banks to raise much more capital, implying they allowed Northern Rock to trade with too little.
Exactly. Why did Osborne allow Darling to get away with the crap about the banks that were building societies collapsing? They seemed to manage OK under a Tory government.
Let me think again, I purchased a house in 1995. Only allowed to borrow 2.5 times salary max, had to provide detailed proof of earnings and a big deposit.
Seems to me that Mcfucking useless did away with all that which is why many banks like the Bigfoot and Bungle failed.
Darling described HBOS as a responsible bank. Why did they and Northern Shite allow five times salary more than the value of the house, no deposit mortgages? They were both obvious disasters waiting to happen.
you must have missed the bit where Osborne bashed the Bankers
The BBC will be reporting it as a great victory for McDarling. Nick Robinson will be lubing his arse up as we speak.
The most interesting verdict of all.
Ladbrokes have just CUT the odds on Tory maj. ie they think it more likely.
the only kind of punter is a mug punter
Out of twenty members of my family I am the only one to have watched some of it.
George looks like a good sensible chancellor for the next parliament……..
Darling was spinning madly to hang on to his job if gordon wins the next election. If only!!!!……………..
cable is spinning madly to try and prove that he would have been a good chancellor if only g+++++od had given him a chance! g+++++od of course knew better!!!
isn’t that cute
the old dear is still spinning madly for ickle George
the public were all laughing AT him dearie not with him
knit us a westham scarf nell
nutter
it’s loom tit
George was great! He’ll make a fine Chancellor.
Thanks mum.
I’m not George’s grandma, but I think the boy’s done well.
P.S. you can tell I’m not ’cause my grammar’s no good.
“thanks mum” Nice!
Guido’s take spot on. So why is the BBC leading on Darling’s line on Osborne?! Extraordinary.
Because the BBC gives blow jobs to the Liebour scum for free.
Huge unemployment coming, especially amongst rent boys, when this lot kicked out and the BBC dismembered.
Not really
This weekend is Easter, and the BBC will be leaving you with happy thoughts on how well this Government has served you….
….as they depart to their villas in Tuscany
And their drugs orgies in Goa
and their rentboys in Thailand…
Bangcock?
Bangalore?
- If it rains. Haaaaaaaaaaa!
By their Lear jets… BA’s on strike, oh and so are the trains.
Vinnie attacked both Darling and Osborne with great ease regardless of drivel he was spouting. He had them both on the defensive.
Who gives a flyin fuck , darlin ????
E x .
Even though he is hated by the europhobes, I would like to see Ken Clarke wheeled out for one last bash as Chancellor – young George does seem to lack a bit of gravitas at times. An emergency budget presented by a whisky slugging, suede-shod smoothie would be so refreshing.
O/T I am now determined to see the end of KevAn Jones, my local MP, veterans minister and government rent-a-gobshite, who has attacked one of the objects of my affection, the blessed Joanna. Even if I have to join forces with the Lib Dems locally, the shi-ite has got to go!
Well said sir. Ken could pull off the almost impossible — an entertaining and humourous budget speech — best chancellor of the last century.
Vote for me or I’ll hit you.
I find it incredulous that if rich kid Osborne becomes chancellor it will be his first job ever.
I’ve never had a real job……..well, not that I’ve done successfully, anyway.
I find it incredible that a history teacher at some shite Scottish technical college was inserted directly into the position of chancellor. What is less surprising is that he totally fucked up the economy.
The depressing bit is that as a reward they promoted the incompetent jackass to PM and he’s spent the past three years covering up his incompetence. And the entire Labour party and BBC has gone along with the cover-up.
Cardinal Ratzinger eat your heart out. This is what a proper cover-up looks like.
Has Darling actually GOT qualifications?
Lawyer apparently. Probably explains his tip-toe approach to the truth.
He’s a Scottish lawyer I believe.
Yeah, just one more second rate fuckin lawyer
Bless you my son
Ratzinger? He’s an amateur – don’t forget Margaret (Enver) Hodge, who while leader of Islington Council failed to investigate child abuse accusations, and was forced to apologise for trying to muzzle reporting of the same while Childrens Minister under Bliar.
Mind you, she’s in for a good kicking from the electorate in Barking this time – Spode will make a fine MP!
Osborne came through more and lesss unscathed and looked more like a Chancellor than the angry puppet. Indeed, he actually appeared to force a U-turn from Darling on the £20,000 death tax.
was being announced by Brown tomorrow
Labour HQ let it out early trying to cover for Darling stumbling on it
The Dance of the Red Death… good book, never thought it would play out in real life.
What a shock, the BBC laying into the Tories on the news. Funny the BBC have suddenly forgotten about the homosexual one eyed jock spouting on about Labour investment v Tory cuts last year.
I must have been hearing things did I just hear McGuire on Sky News say he thought Cameron would win the next election with biggest share of vote but not overall majority. That means the Tories are a shoe in.
McGuire is of course famous for being right about things and not a cockspong
Beeb now giving Osborne and the Tories a kicking over the NI “cut” (actually non-increase), supported by Darling, Cable, Aleksander Orlov, The Krankies, Sooty and Sweep, a 2 year old video of Cameron saying what a bad idea it would be (when do they ever do that with Broon’s epistles?), God, Mohammed and Nick Robinson.
Oh yeah. The BBC is real good with historical context when it suits the fuckers. But very Alzheimers when it doesn’t.
BBC editors value forelock-tugging above arithmetic prowess. Otherwise, they would realise that 1% on Employers NI next year puts 1 in 100 BBC jobs at risk if the license fee is frozen
privatizing the BBC would raise how much?
probably the same amount as privatising the coal mines. Their market value. Fuck all. It’s not what you get paid. It’s what you don’t spend.
There’s some of us over here might be interested
Every time I get to watch something produced by another country, I’m amazed how much better they are than the BBC…
Put ‘Spiral’ (French cops) or Wallander (Swedish cops — and not the Branagh version) up against the BBC’s ‘Larksrise to Candlford’ and you’ll see what I mean. The BBC haven’t produced anything worth watching for a decade.
Jeremy Hunt Conservative MP, Shadow Culture Secretary
“I believe that the BBC is a great national institution.”
“I am proud of the BBC. I think that most British people think that we are very lucky to have a BBC and most people who aren’t British, if they don’t have a BBC, wish they did have one.”
“I don’t see the BBC as a State broadcaster. “I think people see the BBC as operating at arms length from the government and it’s very important that it should continue to do so and that’s why we’ve said we will protect the BBC charter.”
The BBC better change tack pretty soon. They are digging a pretty big hole for themselves, if the Tories get in and more likely than not they will they will not forget this run in to the election.
I am again going to be my generous self and suggest that the same BBC that reversed the film of the 1980′s miners strike so that it looked like the miners were attacking the police before the police charged ‘em on horseback rather than the other way around are the same self-serving organisation that will conceal any Labour idiocy just because that is the purpose of an ‘impartial’ state broadcaster that we all know and love for its impartiality.
I will then hope that Cameron, if elected, will slit their fucking throats.
Ideally literally but if not then metaphorically would do.
Question:
Were the BBC pro labour in the late 1970s, and if so did MT’s or JM’s government do anything to change the political bias?
As it would seem not because by 1997, when the grinning thing was elected, the “corridors were awash with champagne bottles” it was full of, err, . . . champagne-socialists.
I guestimate 12 billion.
If that’s the sort of thing we’re going to get for the first leaders’ debate not many people will watch the next two.
Any of you nawty lads wanna splooge all over my face for a tenner? Oooh, ain’t I a right dirty bitch?!
Ten quid? I’ll give it a go as long as I can put the video on my Facebook page.
..you cut your rates again.???
Darling rules out using estates for social care in which Brown was going to announce tomorrow
The Prime Minister regrets to announce that he will not be able to participate in the leaders debates due to urgent meetings with the Chief Executive of Lidl and the Deputy Prime Minister of Polynesia, which cannot be rescheduled. Mr Brown was relishing the opportunity to debate with his opponents and put his case to the public and is very sorry that he can’t now take part.
its fuckin 11 am here .i told you not to call me till 3pm.Whos coming. Oh your fucking joking
Papeete.
I know that because my summer consists of two weeks in French Polynesia – picking up the total solar eclipse on July 11th – cos they’re fucking well worth the trip – followed by five weeks touring the west coast of America all the way up to Alaska, back down through Jasper and the Rockies, Yellowstone, Grand Canyon and Las Vegas.
Then back to the UK.
Because I can.
50% tax? Huh. Yeah. Right.
Fuck you Brown.
Papeete. happy now
Moorea and Bora Bora too. Since you ask.
Check out my sunburned ass on TripAdvisor when I get back.
And we not only saved the world.
I. Boy not we.
Surprise, surprise the son Alistair Darling talked about to the young person looking for a job is President of Aberdeen University Labour Students.
http://www.aberdeenlabourstudents.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46&Itemid=27
I won’t be surprised if Darling Jr. has a job lined up with the Stasi like wee Willy Straw!
probably parachute him into a nice safe Liebour seat in jockland, you know where the fucking ginger haired heart disease ridden fuckwits vote any old shit into power if they wear a Liebour rosette.
Labour believe in meritocracy and equality of opportunity. Just ask the Benn family.
Rotters!
With Labour its all about nepotism.
what did huge marker pen eye brows dad do in the war
Well people can afford to give Cable a little ‘lift’ as they know only too well that’s as much as he’s going to get…
we don’t believe the polls remember ?
Try telling that to any Party HQ…
The polls are widening.
ComRes/Independent: Con 37 (nc) Lab 30 (-2) Lib Dem 20 (+1)
we don’t believe the polls remember ?
YouGov/Sun: CON 39%(+2), LAB 32%(nc), LDEM 18%(-1)
we don’t believe the polls remember ?
The polls are widening, and so are tat’s chances of winning 15 grand…Hahahahahahahaha…
TaT’s a small brained kid who wanks furiously to Esther Rancid.
though I notice you’re shrill betting crap is widening every day, taking maths lessons from Osborne are we ?
TaT will owe the Bookies £30,000 by the time you’re through so you and your boyfriend TaT won’t be able to afford all those buttplugs and cottaging sessions you had planned.
Opinium/Express: CON 38%(+1), LAB 28%(-2), LDEM 16%(+1).
Every poll since the budget shows the Tories up and the Socialists down.
we don’t believe the polls remember ?
Jesus!!! Only 10% lead! What kind of fucking morons inhabit this island?
Watch Jeremy Kyle and you will see the meaning of “underclass”, Labour’s client state.
sorry mate, Cameron had a 26 point lead and pissed it away
the public doesn’t trust any of them after expenses
they think all politicians are scum
fanx i wil
“26 point lead. Gone”
They could win with half that amount dick brain, so who cares?
they don’t have half that amount though do they ?
I should go back and find some of your twatty posts where you claimed the polls are always wrong just to prove what a knobcheese you are.
Tories. They deserve a slap for only having a 10% lead. And for buggering up any hope of ‘democracy’, which relies on having some semblance of a viable opposition.
Not that that’s really possible given the depth of shit we’re in. Who’d want to campaign on the slogan ‘You’ll be better off being fucked with us than continue being fucked by them’?
The Tories were doing well on being honest about the economic lunacy but getting side-swiped by waiting for economic the facts to catch up with the Labour/BBC/voter illusion.
The facts, naturally, didn’t correlate well with the electorates vision of their own personal economic brilliance evidenced by their decision to invest in the housing market and remortgage annually to afford life’s little luxuries like a new German car, a new Japanese TV and a new foreign holiday in Mauritius. As befitted their status as a newly employed , newly graduated NHS manager with a 2:1 in ‘Management’ from the world class Stoke University (class of ’02).
Unfortunately (for the Tories) just as they were losing their integrity and committing to any old subterfuge in pursuit of power the facts caught up with Labour. So, just as Cameron was promising to match Labour’s lunatic spending plans Northern Rock was circling the pan.
This has left CMD in a tricky position entirely of his own making.
However. Not as much of his own making as the Maximum Imbecile and his jackass legions.
heres the latest from the tinfoilers. Mepherdrone and the group its from being banned is a plan to ban fertilizers
The BBC will be pissed off if Meow Meow is banned.
Naaah mate. The plan is to sideline the fact thatt he person in charge of advising the fuckwitted Labour government on what drugs to ban (or not) has quit because the fuckwitted Labour government doesn’t pay any attention to their considered academic opinion.
The result of her quitting is that under the law Labour cannot ban fuck all until they appoint some suitably compliant ‘academic’ to do what the fuck they’re told instead of what the facts dictate. Shouldn’t take ‘em too long. They found 60 ‘academics’ to knock back criticism of their idiot economic policy by return of post.
Apparently she’ll not be misses because she’s a vet.
If gerbils were at risk, it would be a different matter.
I heard the Beeb (R4 6pm News) suggesting that since the latest resignee from the ACMD was “only a vet” the Govt could proceed without her.
Instead they’ve listened to the experts on the Daily Mail, The Sun and some upset parents so it’s full speed ahead with a populist, ill-considered ban! Kraft durch Freundschaft!
Aaaaah. The Dunblane effect.
If you’re not for banning handguns then you’re pro machine-gunning school children.
Ironic from a government that gave us the Iraq war.
http://scienceblogs.com/drugmonkey/2010/03/scientific_research_101_meow-m.php
Just had a big line
http://img267.imageshack.us/i/meow.jpg/
Thought it was seriously slimey of Darling trying to be Vince’s friend and gang up on George. Well done Vince for staying largely independent and well done George for holding your ground and being brave enough to tell the truth.
we’re all agreeing with Cable together
Your all daft anyway wanting the Tories to win, they will have to clean up the mess and it will finish them once and for all. Labour will get slide back in through the back door after all the hard work is done time and time again and mess it all up again and again.
Look at how all the sad acts still moan about Margaret Thatcher to this day. If I was David Cameron I’d be doing everything possible to lose this election.
Who ever has to implement the scale of cuts on a infantile public that has no comprehension of the reality that actually faces this country will be finished.
Leave them too it and find somewhere nice and sunny to live while the pound is almost completely not worthless. Is a nation full of chavs and immigrants who would rather vote in record numbers for X Factor and Dancing On Ice than for their countries future a nation worth sweating and bleeding for? No not anymore.
Most right thinking people would probably agree with you there. This country is fucked either way.
Your not wrong.
I’m afraid to concur but once the rot has set in for so long it is a permanent downward spiral. Australia is looking for more medical staff though.
Agreed. A hung Parliament, a Lib-Lab coalition with Brown in charge. The pound disappears to parity with the dollar, long term gilt yields double, UK loses its triple A status and the whole shebang goes BOOM.
If the tories don’t win, they will in the second GE of 2010 and the whole Labour movement will be destroyed.
Please.
the whole Labour movement will be destroyed.
I’m holding that thought.
Will it shite. People who remember the winter of discontent moan about Thatcherism. It’s a new fight for each generation.
Still, I’d like to watch Lab rip itself to bits as its forced to dismember dear old Clem’s welfare state.
Yes I know 12 years of this partisan self-serving Governance is enough to hack anybody off, but it is our young people who have been dealt the biggest blows
I know we have increased tuition fees (except for students in Scottishland of course)
So we will reduce the Debt burden by selling the Student Loan book to a private company, and customers will experience enhanced quality of service
Because Scottishland is full of prudent Bankers flush with taxpayers money, it is right that the Student Loan book will be sold to a bank North of the Border
Naturally we will insert the usual penalty clauses should any future Government decide to renege on this sale.
Labour. Partisans. It’s what we do.
> Partisans. It’s what we do.
That’s why Reading, Writing, Arithmetic .. and basic Economics taught in primary schools will be far more of an investment to our nation than teaching French, Italian, Woodwork etc.
“Those within our nation who are ignorant of basic economics belong to us and we can do with them what we wish” – Labour Party Manifesto.
I enjoyed the debate. It was sedate without the nastiness of Ed Balls, and the smarmy mug of Gordon Brown.
I prefer this kind of debate because shouting matches and mouthing off over your oponent serves no one. Shame on you for calling it no thrills and uneventful.
I did think that Vince Cable said some good things, but I found his need to attack the Conservative views shoddy. George Osborne had confined his remarks to his own policy or Tory policy until the others could not resist little jibes at him. I thought, for a change, he came off better than the other two, since he didn’t seem to feel the need to points score in the same manner.
Madquire on sky.
…for a confirmed leftie he’s fond of taking Rupert’s shilling!
I missed it who won?
What’s a ‘drawf’?
Damn it i always fcuk that up
My housemate stated tonight, ‘BBC is being a bit anti Tory’ and I signed heavily and said… they are not a bit, they are fully and have been for absolutely ages. It is sickening – if they don’t like that the Tories they might do a little more to hide it. It’s bloody obvious.
Yes – but it’s the final gasps of protest from a dying organisation.
40 days to survive before that Corporation faces it’s fate.
Not a day too early.
‘ protection society protest.
There is no possession here fuckwit.
‘ that one ye meen dinja
Guido ol boy yer apo strof tranliteratiatan is shit init
Whats sunlight cops, just noticed it in my firewall logs for here.
Labour have just announced that they’re going to tax sunlight. Pay up or stay indoors else the sunlight cops will get ya.
What’s sunlight?
Usual Liebeeb shit. Backing the wrong horse again, as usual. I don’t care – another 5 years of these lies, rhetoric, bullshit, strikes and that one-eyed fucking Gorgon saying he knows best with first-name nobodies ‘Bob’, ‘Ed’, ‘Pete’ and that fuckwit ‘Ed’ will be the end of the UK. I don’t see what’s so Great about Britain anymore under these wankers.
Millipede Junior on NN, what a whining cnut, talking about Oborne and unfairness, take a look at your own Liebour party you twat!!
Ed Milliband is why brothers and sisters shouldn’t be allowed to mate with each other. They breed mongs like Milliband.
Its a pity when Milliband was banging on today about the savings he had proposed for his department, Hammond didnt simply say his whole fucking pointless department would be axed as soon as the Conservatives take power.
Labour in chaos:
The Headlines tomorrow will be all about Brown and Darling’s u-turns on the Death Tax:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/benedictbrogan/100032005/embarrassment-for-gordon-brown-as-he-ditches-death-tax/
New polls with gap widening to 10% again.
And that’s before the fight starts and Cameron finally delivers when the pressure is on.
Believe me, it’s gonna be a landslide.
Finally a proper Tory policy. cut fucking taxes, fuck the private sector, fuck the BBC and fuck the one eyed jock bummer.
AGREED 100%
(will leave the priorities to others but would insist the NHS waste of tax is NOT ringfenced in any way – including “front line”. They’ve ALL fed off the public for far too long.)
Cut and cut very very deeply indeed.
“Believe me, it’s gonna be a landslide.”
Handbags flailing on Newsnight.
Politics is all itsy- bitsy.
Did everyone get the message that I was one of the few people who warned of the problems with debt in our society ?
Yes, Vince, we all heard the first time.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz !
Oh, and Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Georgie was a toff-nosed twat with no judgement and next-to-no detail – and it showed. Looked like ‘eed wet himself when asked why, after a year or more banging on about deficit reduction, overnight he wants to blow £6 billion on reversing NI.
Totally useless when asked what he’d bring to the job and why didn’t the party of free market economics have a clue this was all going to blow up. Maybe the concepts of ‘liar loans’ and ‘asymmetric information’ are a bit difficult for public schoolboys to understand. His johny-cum-lately conversion to tax cuts for the many rather than the few was just as convincing as the cycling Cam photo-op a couple of years back.
Job done. They got you out of bed to post that shit? That’s another few hospital porters working shifts to pay you to post Labour apologist bollocks.
It’s just as bad as all the Tory apologist bollocks being posted on here.
No it’s about the same.
Yes it’s about the same.
Fuck me, those hospital porters are busy tonight.
Perhaps he doesn’t HAVE to deliver ?
It’s his job to lose. He simply needs to play it safe (Operation Completed)
The ONLY reason Brown – eventually – agreed to a live debate is he know it is his only chance.
He needs a miracle and quite clearly he is the most incapable person alive that can deliver that miracle.
Game Over, Socialists, the Champagne has already been bought and is on ice.
Enjoy the show and the following leadership contest – it’s all you have to look forward to now.
Darling went to a private school.
Harping on about class,money, privilege or private education really does you no favours.
New Labour is stuffed full of those from wealthy backgrounds who’ve enjoyed privileges that many can only dream of. And those not born into wealth have spent the last 13 years making damn sure they can aquire it by any means.
Jeez… my old home town (Stoke) on Newsnight. I got out in the late 70s when the place was still chokka with a manufacturing industry. Every visit back seeing the place go downhill. They just showed it from the air… a wasteland.
Similar history to you re Stoke. I remember the fog from the pottery kilns in the 60′s before the clean air act, but what a tragedy for the lovely kind hearted potters – neglected by Government and dragged down by incompetent and corrupt local politicians. No wonder the unmentionable party has got a foothold.
Are you people seriously suggesting Osborne came out of this well? He didn’t goof, that’s true, but he showed he’s no master of rhetoric, which is really what TV debates reward. Cable had the audience not because the audience were partisan, but because he pressed the right buttons with them. I would place Cable (1), Darling (2) and Osborne (3).
I don’t think, however, that being a master of rhetoric is really all that important in a Chancellor, but it certainly helps you get elected.
Slightly more nuanced Labour onanism but still Labour onanism.
(Kudos to my spell-checker – onanism is not underlined in red)
That’s easy for you to write. I’m voting Tory, but reserving my right to send lots of shitty letters to my MP (not that it makes much difference – I’m in a safe Tory seat).
same old tory trolling
Well spotted that man! treat yourself to a sniff of my arsehole.
Well spotted that man! treat yourself to a sniff of my arsehole.
After me xx
no after you ducky, I’m going to try on my frock first
Darling has to come last because he has totally fucked up as Chancellor and, along with Brown, almost destroyed our economy. An hours debate on the telly cannot gloss over that fact.
This is true. Darling has been handed a poisoned chalice by his boss who is chiefly concerned with making sure that Darling doesn’t go public with the economic clusterfuck he has inherited.
A knighthood or Lordship should do the trick.
It’s the same problem Obama Beach has in the US. He has been handed the economic hospital pass of the millennium. At least he gets to blame his economic fuckcessor. Or is it predefucker? A luxury unavailable to Darling.
Pusillanimous bastards.
And the audience were shite. They should have stormed the stage, kicked all three scum-bags to death, and then cut their heads off and danced around with them on sticks.
Fucking c’unts.
O/T. Purcell admits to taking cocaine. He has not been charged. He was being investigated for blackmail from drug barons. Purcell work colleagues were made aware of his drug intake but did nothing. Many questions remain unanswered.
Presumably chief amongst them is why do Glasgow voters, after fully one hundred years of being sold down the river by Labour jackasses, their life expectancy fully thirty years adrift of their English peers, insist on voting for self-serving, incompetent, substance abusing jackass cu*ts like Purcell.
It’s a fair question.
Because HALF of them have close Celtic Irish genes ?
Reid, Browne, Purcell, McFall, Murphy, Devine, Martin, etc etc …
It’s the Monklands Question.
HALF ? try 95% Look back at the last 30 years worth of Lord Provosts in Glasgow, you’ll find one token Protestant, one token Jewess and all the rest Roman Catholics of Irish descent. Try getting odds from the bookies for that happening!
spotted eleswhere
Q= How to become a small Business owner in Labour run UK
A= Buy a big business and wait
None of these would-be chancellors have any radical ideas
Profits from PLCs which used to go to fund pensions are now creamed off daily by the merchant banks – it’s no wonder private pensions have imploded.
We keep being told that the City makes £3billion a month or whatever, but it’s our money being skimmed.
Why not have a share transfer window, twice a year for a month, like the Premier League does for football players.
No more short-selling, borrowing money overnight to grab a quick profit at the expense of pensioners. If you’ve got the money, you can buy the shares. Make it more difficult for traders to distort the market with borrowed money.
After all, the City of London only playing with wealth that others have created
can we do something about smug partisan kevin maguire on sky news every night. please.
Surely people must love seeing the little toad, otherwise they wouldn’t have him on would they?
Maybe, but which people?
Toilets Maguire spouting his usual crap on Sky News.
He did admit right at the end that he thought Cameron would be leader of the largest party post election. I wonder how much it hurt him to say that?
I need another world cruise. I’m off to quantitatively ease my finances
I hear that new Hewlett Packard printer is very good and with the right paper you can hardly tell the difference.
Google
robert green
hollie greig
and be afraid
I didn’t realise just how big an arsehole Vince Cable was until I saw him on that Ch4 debate tonight.
BTW What’s with the blatantly biased reporting on the BBC? George Osborne more than held his own and came across as the most convincing of the three yet Robinson, Flanders etc made out he had been slaughtered by the other two. Their impartiality is becoming glaringly obvious but is anything going to be done about it?
Convincing to whom? My point simply concerns how each of the three plays out in the big wide world of X Factor watching loons, not how they come across to political anoraks who read Fawkes blog.
Not until after the election.
The BBC HYS on the event says, in varying levels of economically illiterate mongspeak, that Vince is the man to lead the country to the broad sunlit uplands.
No doubt with the assistance of a comfortable coach, frequent toilet breaks and afternoon teas at agreeable village pubs on the way.
BBC! SQUAWK! BBC! SQUAWK! BBC! SQUAWK! BBC! SQUAWK! BBC! SQUAWK!
Just catching up with the threads having been on a plane all day. Is anyone here going to the MPs’ trial in London tomorrow??
cable had most to lose, and he did
Yes Osborne won, he’s bright, decent and under estimated.
Mandleson’s great plan to redicule him has fallen apart. Brown’s performance in the debates is the next big problem for Labour, and of course the BBC.
Interesting the normally maniacally labour cringing Crick on NN gave the award to George. Always an oppoprtunist, can he have seen the writing on the wall and the tumbrills coming for him and his like? Have you also noticed how very unpleasant Martha Carney has become. Talk about nailing her colours to the mast – silly girl.
The outright political bias of the BBC towards Labour has become a scandal worth investigating in a big way – the longer it goes on the more blatant examples keep occuring. Come on torys, the only way to beat these bastards is to fight them and keep fighting them because they really don’t give a shit.
Yes, lets cut the BBC down to what it should be.
A medium we can trust – sadly something which has been lost over the years of Blair and Brown. The World Service has been lost!
If we cut the license fee back to £99 from £142.50. what would we lose. The managers would make certain that its all front line stuff we would lose, but do we care?
I no longer trust the BBC, it just reeks of nu-liar politics. SO lets cut them down to size – if you were a labour pol, sack them
I have just watched the debate, recorded on Sky+. I am pleased I did not watch it live, I would have hated to waste proper TV time, with the IPL on.
Overall I was not impressed by anyone, I think the format and the MC were awful, dull and lacking real questions.
Vince Cable is his normal smug self, all ways telling us what he had had said. But the Liberals, I hate this LIbDem thing (the SDP just failed), have no idea of what they really want.
Why the conservatives do not come out and say lets ditch all consultants; get rid of the PFI business (Browns way of keeping debts of the books) and taking us out of wars we should not be in.
But we should also look at the EU with the project of getting us to pay of for the bail out of the euro, and worse giving up control of our economy to a central EU body. Will this be a an issue in the election, or is our population so educated to not ask the right questions it no longer matters
Cable played the cheap shot
by saying the tories had three terms “with their snouts in the trough ”
and they want another term for the benifit of their rich friends !
politics has reached a new low since the tories where last in office back then they were “honourable members if they did anything wrong they did the honourable thing and resigned !
but not now you cant even drag them kicking and screaming from that place
i do not recall any mp at the time being caught fiddling their expences
maybe i am wrong but vince you take your money knowing that you will Never have to write a budget and like All lib dems’s you know you will never hold power so you just get paid to fill the spare seats on the oppersition side of the house for crists sake you only get two questions at PMQ’s that should tell you how valued your input is to the british parliament !
wasters all !
sorry for the spelling !
I allways thought the limpdem mp’s have got it easy,maybe they should be on half pay and made to sit on spikes.
love the name !
twat
does your mum know your still up TaT
hows your blog ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ?
Dont you ever tire of being wrong stupid ?
WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! Hahahahahahahahaha!!!
This isn’t your twatty kid S&M slave master boyfriend thick as thieves.
That tiny brained shitweevil is probably wanking furiously to pictures of Esther Rantzen while you stalk these blogs pining and whimpering for your moron boyfriend to get his harness out and mount you.
Now fuck off and stop making such an embarrassing cun’t of yourself.
so err how is the blog TaT ? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hsa has ha ha
3 accountants , arguing over a pack of lies live on television.
Fuck me, if that has not got to be the dullest idea that this dull governement has ever come up with.
They had nothing to lose. They were gambling on Osborne falling to pieces and w*king like a chimp on stage. Or something. It cost them nothing. Everybody still loathes them for their economic incompetence. Worth a shot when your double digits adrift in the polls.
Silly Tories for even taking the chance that Labour would spike George’s drink.
They had nothing to lose. They were gambling on Osborne falling to pieces and w*king like a chimp on stage. Or something. It cost them nothing. Everybody still loathes them for their economic incompetence. Worth a shot when your double digits adrift in the polls.
Silly Tories for even taking the chance that Labour would spike George’s dr*nk.
‘You’re’.
FFS.
Careful, that State Education is very infectious. Avoid at all costs.
“They were gambling on Osborne falling to pieces and w*king like a chimp on stage.”
that would be your assesment of Osborne
the rest of the public saw him being mocked and laughed at
I wont be voting for any of the big three troughing parties !
i will vote for the local nutter who fights a single policy campagne
like “free body warmers for earth worms ” or something
or UKIP
only a fool votes for a thief
Yes, far better to have your voting ‘done for you’
[Scottish accent] “…Oooh, surprise surprise.. Another vote for Labour!”
Have the parties run out of ideas? New Labour are going to run with their illusory budget throughout the election campaign knowing that they have only pissed off the scrumpy drinking voters. Their agenda is to fool the electorate with a meaningless budget, the budget is a misdirection tactic, an attempt to confuse the voter away from the reality that tough cuts are on the way. Will the electorate fall for it?
Vince Cable is pure showmanship he knows the patter and he knows how to engage the audience. He creates an illusion of trust. He is a salesman selling dodgy policies.
George Osborne is a trickster but one who appears to make it up as he goes along. He does a good job juggling all these ideas but occassionally drops a ball.
None of the three made any real sense by themselves BUT if you look at the liblabcon as a single political entity presenting fake differences to confuse the electorate then what they said starts to make sense.
As long as the big three parties can can grub enough votes to sustain their stranglehold on power then the liblabcon political class has won the war against the electorate and yes folks it is a war!
The single biggest enemy of the professional politician is the electorate, the would be lifetime one trick pony politician can climb the greasy pole,make the right allies and push the right buttons but all that counts for nothing if the electorate then kick this person out at election time.
The political classes fear the judgement of the electorate, they have come to despise the ordinary electorate that wields so much power over the careers of the political classes and everything they are doing together and in collusion with foreign agents is to disenfranchise the ordinary voter and remove that voter from its pivotal role as judge jury and executioner.
Look at it from the perspective of the professional politician, their fears and desires become clear as day, we have become the enemy and they mean to fix us ASAP.
The only chance we have for the survival of our national democracy is to eliminate the established political classes with extreme prejudice, it is us or them, they chose the war and they are trying to strike first and if we do not destroy them first then they will happily destroy us next.
Tell me – since when did RECEIVED WISDOM change from the notion that people having cash in their pockets was a BAD thing for the Economy, and paying every penny in tax was a good thing?!?!?!?
Used to be that be accepted that Taxation is fiscal drag!.. Slows growth / recovery / makes the masses poorer
Yeh, man. And that ‘trickle down’ theory of economics worked out really well too, didn’t it? you neo-liberal dogmatist!!
Looks like Alistair Darling is being ebayed in a pre-election special –
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170469818701&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
Looks like the boy Osborne’s self-serving and fatalistic predictions about the UK economy may be overplayed. The OECD has just released figures showing 1st Q growth in the UK of 2% and 2nd Q growth projected to be over 3%…in your face, Oik!
Does anyone else on this site think Michael Gove is a smug, smarmy, patronising, aloof Tory boy with a head too big for his puny body? Please can we see more of him on TV so everyone can see what a bunch of unreformed dinosaurs the Tories remain.