Finking is Not Enough
Speccie editor Fraser Nelson is giving the Keith Joseph Memorial Lecture to a Centre for Policy Studies audience tonight. The CPS was of course founded by Keith Joseph and Margaret Thatcher. His speech is titled “Winning Is Not Enough“.
Fraser is willing to tell it straight:
“The political fallacies of the 1970s are leaping out from their graves: the notion that you squeeze more out of the rich by increasing their marginal tax rate. The idea that one improves the health service by pouring money into it. The ideological demons that Keith Joseph had thought slain have come back again. And, just like last time, some of these demons are wearing a blue rosette.”
The critique he offers of the Tory willingness to accept Brown’s parameters of debate is not just the Tory right calling for the old Thatcherite tunes. He is squarely taking on what can be described as the Fink approach to politics:
… the Conservative Party is, to an extent, still in therapy; shell-shocked not just by three election defeats, but by the trauma of its own internal warfare. The temptation is to get rid of anything that anyone might criticise, and become politically neutral: provoking neither hatred nor enthusiasm. Here, the Conservatives are in danger of forgetting Keith Joseph’s most enduring lesson: the difference between the Middle Ground and the Common Ground.
Guido is off to hear the speech…
The Speccie has improved under Fraser Nelson. It was in danger of becoming an effete style magazine. Now it has a point again. They still need a decent cinema critic and to change Rod Liddle’s medication but it has become much more political.
Fraser has been writing some wierd stuff the past few weeks, supporting Cameron one week and Brown the next. Will be interesting to see which one turns up tonight!
Please report back Guido!
We’re all consensus-builders promoting a centrist, managerial political philosophy over an ideological one together.
They want to be rulers, we only need administrators.
like Blair
he believed in nothing
wasn’t he great?
Yes we would laugh our arses off if Guido dared treat us to that headline
Yet Fraser is a complete Blairite when it came to being a cheerleader for Iraq
Some errors in judgement are more fundamental and telling than others
It’s got worse under Fraser Nelson who spends most of his time attacking Cameron on the orders of his new bosses, the Labour-supporting Barclay brothers.
The Spectator is full of pinkoes, neo-cons and Labour fellow travellers. Look at That steaming faggot Alex Massie and NuLabiar Martin Bright for instance. Then there’s Lloyd Evans, Peter Hoskin etc etc.
the barclay brothers have acted like they run the island of sark. they utilized their connections to the political class in the uk to get the hose of lords to issue a demand that sark becomes a democracy – this is despite the fact that the uk has no jurisdiction in sark, and the lords is not a democracy.
when this failed, they utilized the european court of human rights to force sark to become a democracy – again, who have no jurisdiction in sark.
the ruler of sark, the “sengior” has become ill with stress over the matter. eventually (after 10 years) of legal battles, media campaigns and extreme pressure on the rulers and people of sark, they eventually called for a referendum. this passed, but only just. so, for the first time ever, last year, the feudal island of sark went to the ballot box. the previous year had seen a mass of acquisitions by the barclay brothers on the island. they bought shops, cafes, hotels, restaurants, built a community center and a hellish post modern school. by the time of the election, they owned over 50% of the sark economy. they put up their own (outside) candidates in order to rule the island, and when the vote came, none of their candidates were elected – the local people were elected.
a day after the election, the barclay brothers closed their businesses on the island, closed the community centre and fired the staff – causing an employment crisis in an island with 500 people. their vindictive and evil nature should not be forgotten and i for one, never buy the telegraph or visit the ritz due to their ownership.
they are not from sark. they came in the late 1990s and bought the island of breqhou, just off sark, where they built a castle that looks like a prison. owing to the laws of sark, only the firstborn son can inherit property. they claimed to only have a daughter – and this is supposedly the reason for their interference in the affairs of a sleepy island, yet by the time of the election, their “son” was their business manger on the island; so liars and bullies they are.
also, please remember, their billions were made by scamming the land registry in the 1970s and subsequently being involved in very dodgy dealings with dodgy members of the international elite. their acquisition of the ritz is also very murky.
Good post.
Or to put it more pithily: the Barclay brothers are a right pair of nasty money grubbing fucking chancers.
Barclays cocked up the telegraph.
Enough said
that is an outline of how all countries are run by their banking and corporate masters
He could do worse than dig out that comedy gift that keeps on giving – the Labour manifesto of 1997…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/election97/background/parties/manlab/4labmanecon.html
The level of public spending is no longer the best measure of the effectiveness of government action in the public interest. It is what money is actually spent on that counts more than how much money is spent.
Ooh, well spotted Sir!
How things change, with Gordoom now plugging how much spending has increased, even when productivity has declined massively as a result and all the extra money has been borrowed!
I like this bit
“On crime, we believe in personal responsibility and in punishing crime…”
Unless you are a Right Honourable member of this House of Corruption.
A sort of Mr Creosote-style image springs to mind.
Eric Pickles visits the Strangers bar. again
A reminder of the choiceness of the Creosote scene is always welcome.
How about this:
“The reason for having created new Labour is to meet the challenges of a different world.. I am confident about our future prosperity, even optimistic, if we have the courage to change and use it to build a better Britain.”
Well, 13 years on and looking around the capital city of a bankrupt nation, I think, “thank God this is only Somalia.”
And then we see the red double-decker buses..
Cameron and Osborne would do well to just do a straight lift of the ’97 Labour manifesto… maybe paraphrase it a bit so it’s not obvious… what a great comeback line at PMQs that would be, “but Mc2@, it’s yours…”
The first line and I’m laughing already.
Well, you gotta laugh don’t ya, or else you’d cry.
Here are the ten pledges from the 1997 Manifesto.
1 Education will be our number one priority, and we will increase the share of national income spent on education as we decrease it on the bills of economic and social failure
2 There will be no increase in the basic or top rates of income tax
3 We will provide stable economic growth with low inflation, and promote dynamic and competitive business and industry at home and abroad
4 We will get 250,000 young unemployed off benefit and into work
5 We will rebuild the NHS, reducing spending on administration and increasing spending on patient care
6 We will be tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime, and halve the time it takes persistent juvenile offenders to come to court
7 We will help build strong families and strong communities, and lay the foundations of a modern welfare state in pensions and community care
8 We will safeguard our environment, and develop an integrated transport policy to fight congestion and pollution
9 We will clean up politics, decentralise political power throughout the United Kingdom and put the funding of political parties on a proper and accountable basis
10 We will give Britain the leadership in Europe which Britain and Europe need
Didn’t they do well?
0/10
It’s not just failure, it’s something else.
Each pledge indicates an area of life where Labour policies have made things ten time worse.
Possibly ten times worse is being too complimentary.
This isn’t just failure, it’s national bankruptcy on an unprecedented scale.
Brown is obviously keen to discuss Manifestos at PMQs, so maybe next Wednesday, he would like to discuss this;
We therefore set out in the manifesto that follows ten commitments, commitments that form our bond of trust with the people. They are specific. They are real. Judge us on them.
Priceless! Why don’t the idiots at CCHQ pick up on this stuff?
I fear the second 11 are running the CCHQ
Cameron is an amateur.
You must admit, Labour are traitors, incompetents, liars, thieves and gangsters – but they are professional politicians.
“professional politicians”
If by that you mean thugs, embezzlers, backstabbers and marxist traitors, then I fully agree with your description of noseminer’s McParteh .
@udderly.
I think Cameron and his crowd have had things too easy. Super education at Eton, off to Oxbridge, nice job in the city. Happy smiles. Make a mint. Marries a millionairess. It’s all been one logical transition from happy to happier; great to greater.
McSnot, on the other hand, weighed-down by a third-rate Marxist intellect and a rabid hatred of all humanity, has had to back-stab his way to the top.
Brown’s a nasty piece of work and Cameron doesn’t know how to counter it.
Is there anybody at CCHQ old enough to buy a bottle of Champers?
“Priceless! Why don’t the idiots at CCHQ pick up on this stuff?”
Huh? Are you suggesting that because Blair won with this in 1997 Cast-iron Dave should try it again in 2010?
What is the point of the idiots at CCHQ criticising the 1997 Labour manifesto? Don’t you think the 2010 Labour manifesto might be a better target? Or, more pertinent, the policies of Brown since he assumed the position as Prime Minister?
Sheesh, the level of the education of respondents to Guido’s posts has much to be desired.
You bucking prick! We’ve been traduced, emphatically lied to for over ten years and the Tory toffs havnt landed a punch on Labour( hung Parliament coming up???) and your trying to play the “look at us, aren’t we responsible” card. Get off the high horse you twonk.
It’s about credibility. Lack of, in labour’s case.
Real Alternative says:
February 3, 2010 at 10:59 pm
“Huh? Are you suggesting that because Blair won with this in 1997 Cast-iron Dave should try it again in 2010? ”
Er, no. I think you should change your name to ‘Real Fuckwit’ as everyone else seems to have picked up the basic point that you in your thick-headedness have clearly missed. I won’t bother to explain. Go off and get yourself an education.
I humbly suggest that “Real Fuckwit” is waaaay too kind a moniker for the poster in question.
Nice to see you….to see you nice
Pesrsonally I rather liked their manifesto which promised to pull Britain out of Europe. I remember a younger Neil Kinnock banging on about it at the time. Whatever happened to him?
Jesus fucking wept.
The words ‘thirteen wasted years’ cannot do justice to the extent of Labour’s serial record of failure in the light of all this. Not to mention a couple of dodgy wars, totally fucked public finances and an increasingly authoritarian state thrown in for good measure.
As to the pillock who commented “Don’t you think the 2010 Labour manifesto might be a better target?” I say no. But if you are so privileged as to have a copy, please share it with us. The Nation awaits
Blogged it
http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2010/02/labour-manifesto-1997.html
what money is actually spent on that counts more than how much money is spent.
Thus the Messiah B’Liar spake, and gave us…. GONGOs – Government Organized Non-Governmental Organizations
and then some
http://fakecharities.org/
Mandelson financed the Stonewall campaign to tell us to get over gay people using OUR fucking money
Looked up the link and bookmarked.
What a mine of info.
Looked up one funded charity which provides environmental teaching support to primary schools and found this gem
‘Society will change. Communities will become stronger as we shift values from material possession to people, time and true quality of life. We will have to accept a more interventionist Government that is strong enough to make long-term decisions to shift us from our current direction towards that of a sustainable one. ‘
WTF are these people on? And they have access to young minds in schools?
Climate change fascists – the new world dictators for whom “democracy must be sacrificed”
Have a listen
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00q3cnl
Splendid link – Thank you
And while we’re in the mood for topical mirth sourced from the longest lie in history – the 1997 Labour manifesto…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/election97/background/parties/manlab/9labmanconst.html
We are committed to a referendum on the voting system for the House of Commons. An independent commission on voting systems will be appointed early to recommend a proportional alternative to the first-past-the-post system.
So thirteen years is ‘early’?
Theres more….
We will reject the boom and bust policies which caused the collapse of the housing market. Ahahahahahaha.
They have debased democracy through their MPs who have taken cash for asking questions in the House of Commons. Unlike Labour MPs who waited till they were elevated to the Lords before taking cash for questions. And then slapped on the wrist.
Reform of party funding to end sleaze
Day 1: Ecclestone: Cash for peerages.
press for substantial reform of the United Nations, including an early resolution of its funding crisis, and a more effective role in peacekeeping, conflict prevention
Or we could just ignore it, manufacture evidence and declare war on Iraq. Whatever.
I swear to God you could Fisk that fucking thing line by line. History will condemn it as the biggest pile of lies ever peddled by a political party.
If Michael Foot’s manifesto was the longest suicide note in history then Labour’s 1997 manifesto is the biggest pack of lies in history.
Surely the biggest pack of lies in history is Burkes Peerage
Do not forget the 2005 Labour manifesto was judged to be not legally binding in a court case.
I guess the previous ones also reached the same moral high ground of truth.
http://www.parkers.co.uk/News/Company-cars/Hybrid-tax-bombshell/
Hybrid tax bombshell
Certain hybrid cars are going to cost much more in company car tax thanks to a change in the way the Government treats them.
From the 2011/12 tax year, hybrids will lose the 2% benefit-in-kind discount they currently enjoy. Coupled with a tightening of the company car tax bands, the changes could amount to thousands of pounds a year in extra taxation.
Among the biggest losers tax-wise will be drivers who have opted for hybrids such as the Lexus range – GS450h, RX450h and LS600h models.
The driver of a GS450h currently pays benefit-in-kind tax based on 21% of the car’s P11D value. This includes the 2% discount, which will continue to apply in the 2010/11 tax year. However, as the emissions bands tighten, company car tax will be based on 22% of the P11D price next year.
But in the 2011/12 tax year, when the 2% discount ends, the tax will be based on 25% of the P11D value, rising to 26% in 2012/13.
Today, a 40% tax-paying driver will be paying £3,425 a year in company car tax, but by 2012/13 this will have risen to £4,250 per annum. These figures also assume that the P11D price remains static for the next four years.
Serves them right for being a teachers pet and buying one.
Now they realise that CO2 is not causing global warming why have the tax break.
Each one of those cars creates much more pollution over its life – most of it during production – than even things like Hummers.
They are merely an extremely narcissistic fashion statement, nothing more.
Toyotas are shit.
That’s why I drive one!
Not to mention the appalling mining conditions to extract the rare minerals needed to make the batteries in it.
Well good…. it’s about time people stopped buying those ugly cars.
They should have taken away company car tax on new cars instead of doing that wanky scrapppppppperagerationing scheme.
But oh no, that would be a tax break on the rich and that couldn’t be doing that, could they.
Wankers.
Scrappage scheme extension to be announced tomorrow – from end Feb. to end March.
wowee. a whole month.
I heard today, from a mate in the motor trade, that not all these so called ‘Scrap’ cars are not been scrapped. The market is flooded with them, take one half decent 10 year old car, take one similar accident write off, swap the serial numbers and hey presto the cars back on the road. Also a 10 year old Ford Ka is no less greener than a brand new one if you take into account the cost in ‘carbon’ making the new one and scrapping the old one.
Well good.
Mine’s a nice 10 year old motah and I’d hate to see it scrapped.
… although not hate so much I couldn’t be bought by £2k for it if I were in a position to get a new one.
Stupid Scheme with a Stupid name
The trouble is most people buy cars with a finance loan and then there’s the deprecation. So you buy a Ford Focus for 15k but get 2k off scrappage , so you borrow say 13k over 3 years. That 13k costs 6k in interest and in three years time the trade in value of your car is 7k so in three years you loose £12,000 over three years. It gets really bad when you start looking at £50,00 motors!!!! Do what I do run run a classic car, I have a 27 year old Porsche 911 which costs about a £1000 per year to run including tax, insurance etc but it has increased in value over the last 3 years by £5000 so I’m up £2000. The emissions are not that bad and I can assure you its a lot more fun to drive than a focus!
Election in March.
Fraser must read this blog. TaT came up with the slogan ‘Winning is not enough’ a couple of weeks before he left this place.
And long before him – Sir Jackie Stewart – another Scot.
hello again tat
taking a break from the blog?
in your case tat
Whining is not enough
Said the whining c’unt.
Wow. I think I just posted the same idea in the Coverup story thread. I’ll post my thoughts here just for completeness.
How is it that David Cameron is so effectively fighting on Labour’s own terms. Rather than continuously pointing out all the governments faults and constantly drilling into the electorate how bad this lot really are, he simply gets caught trying to make guarantees and pledges he later reverses and promises he can’t fund. He needs to change the narrative and start to fight to his strengths. 13 years of a Labour government and he can’t find any point of weakness in their armour? Stop trying to be all things to all people and start hitting those populist Tory messages.
Promise a referendum on Lisbon, so what if he can’t actually drag us out. If the public decided that’s the policy they want then let them have it. At least he has the flipping mandate either way!
Save our armed forces. Fight back against the complete lie that “we HAVE to work with our EU friends if we want to provide an effective force!
Be explicit about health. Yes there will be cuts but not ONE front line role will go.
Education is a shambles. Re-introduce comprehensive streaming and vocational schools. It’s not about Elitism it’s about helping the kids do what they are good at.
Plus anything else that will win votes. Oh and whilst we’re at it create a rapid rebuttal unit aka Labour 1997. That stuff works.
Finally attack, attack, attack.! No more Mister Nice Green Tory, take off the gloves and start giving the clunking fist a thump.
All of these policies may cost votes in the key marginals
Twaddle. What the marginals need is populist conservative policies. Either that or a hell of a lot of people will vote UKIP
Because the general public (as opposed to those interested in politics) really hate too much negative campaigning. The Tories are overwhelmingly positive at the moment, and setting the agenda by doing so.
That doesn’t mean there won’t be a big poster of Broon gurning with the caption “five more years?” during the campaign, but it will be exception rather than the rule.
Liebour on the other hand, have no policies at all for the next Parliament, and think they can get away with slagging off the “baby-eating Tories” with their friends in the media.
I’m not sure what people elsewhere are thinking, but those I speak to in the UK universally hate the current government, and will vote for whoever stands the best chance of kicking them to oblivion!
But the Tories still need some popular policies Steve.
And they better hurry up about it.
There are a number of policies already announced by the Tories, such as major school reform, IHT changes and financial prudence based around spending cuts and civil service reforms.
There will be I’m sure a load more detail in the Manifesto, anything too detailled now gives Liebour the chance to
formulate a responselie and spin their way through to the election.At one time that may have been true, but don’t forget: nobody is listening to a word the Labour party and Gordon says now and if they do hear it they don’t believe it.
Added to that is the fact that the core Labour vote will not change their minds now and so I propose that the Tories get their fucking shit together and publish and be damned.
It is time to stop fucking about and to publish their manifesto.
The New Labour party manifesto, due to the large number of previous manifesto promises Labour have made but not kept, is not worth the paper it is written on.
Finally, the Tories must have a very popular headlining policy which cannot be copied by Labour. I suggest that should be to abolish tax credits and to introduce a higher personal allowance to offset the loss of credits.
You would be surprised how many hundreds of thousands of tax credit recipients whose lives have been made a misery by tax credits would be in favour of such a policy.
Policies, pledges… the devil is in the detail, and better to face it than fear it. I’d like to know what I’m voting for before I’m staring down at my ballot paper… though I accept that some would prefer to remain in denial and vote like they’re sticking a tail on a donkey.
Maybe i’m being the optimist then, but I think the manifesto will have sufficient detail in it.
I’m on the Tories’ mailing list (but not a member), and after every one of their announcements over the past month they have invited comment on their website – and responded in detail to the comments.
I think they are genuinely looking for a consensus as to what the details should be within their themes.
http://www.conservatives.com/draftmanifesto/ is their website, they are seriously asking for comments from everyone and anyone.
But isn’t that part of the problem, and a typical New Labour-ite pr strategy? Why ask people what they think? Most want what’s best for them… which may not be what’s best for the country. Don’t they know what’s needed? If they don’t then they don’t deserve my vote and anyone who does vote for them is a mug. Too much consulting comes across as dithering or desperation or both.
“That doesn’t mean there won’t be a big poster of Broon gurning with the caption “five more years?” during the campaign, but it will be exception rather than the rule.”
You’re ‘avin a laugh. There are about 4 Labour MP’s intending to have Brown on their campaign leaflets, let alone on a fucking poster.
Benji, my suggestion is that Brown might appear on a Tory poster with that caption and the most unflattering possible photo (and shit, there are hundreds to choose from).
The one thing the electorate know above anything is that they don’t want one more day of Gordon Brown.
DB, it will be interesting to see how it all pans out, but I think that Brown’s recent pickup in the polls is in the core Labour seats – the marginals where the election will be won or lost are as determined to kick him out as they ever have been!! The next PM will be either Brown or Cameron, that is the choice the People have to make…
I agree that it’s going to be ‘interesting’, Steve. But I fear it’s not much of a choice (I certainly won’t be choosing either). And the options after the election are pretty limited too.
No they don’t. People hate Labour and Brown in particular and love seeing the incompetent twat getting as a slapping. Labour’s record is crap – even they aren’t running on it- and negative attacks work. Fix bayonets and get stuck in. Brown’s bound to lose it completely sooner or later if pressure is applied. The guy’s a nutjob.
Agree, Joe Public. Bliar managed to demolish Major practically every day in the run-up to the 1997 GE, and it came across as positive – offering hope for a better future.
CallMeDave should never have taken up the Heir to Bliar notion, and he should ditch it fast. The public have sussed Bliar (at long last) so he should be edging away rapidly from any resemblance to that creep. Which begs the question of just who the real Cameron is – perhaps there isn’t one?
We must never forget that, despite all the recent Sturm und Drang, STILL one in four of the population would vote NuLab tomorrow!
THAT REMAINS A DANGEROUS POWER-BASE FOR MANDY AND HIS CREATURE GORDON.
how true is it that Labour have been pumping money into their own areas re: NHS and business investment? As we heard a PMQs today. If true it is bound to help their votes in critical areas..
May I just ask a question here – “Re-introduce comprehensive streaming”? Has that been abandoned?? When I was at a (Surrey) comprehensive in the 80s, there was the A stream (the children of home owners), the B stream (children from council estates) and the R (remedial) stream, none of whom could ever remember where the school was, so we never saw them.
One key thing – one avoided the B-streamers at all costs. They were the ones who walked around mob-handed and would attack – without warning or provocation – any A-streamer (or teacher) who was foolish enough to be in a corridor by themselves.
These people are now all mixed in, with the kids who would otherwise have a chance?
Jesus Christ.
(for what it’s worth, insofar as I kept in touch with any of them, the class of 1984 A-streamers are now struggling, the B-streamers all got nice detached council houses).
I’ve seen a few comprehensive schools, and none of them had streaming, but every last one had setting.
Diversity is under-represented in your constituency?
Good post.
As someone said “Never argue with an idiot. They drag you to their level and beat you on experience”
(another good post)
Cameron and chums are amateurs. I back Davis meself.
and dump this AGW bollocks immediately.
Too dangerous – the BBC and all the rest of the eco-fascist quangocrats and charidees would be on their case.
The Bloated Brown Corporation is on very thin ice.
They would be well advised to keep their mouths shut.
No, no , according to Sunny Hundal (and he and his bosom mate Moonbat should know!), the BBC are now leading the climate change denialists. See ;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/03/bbc-climate-change-denier
It might come as a bit of a surprise to those at the Beeb, though Andrew Neil has certainly done a bit in that direction.
I must say I was somewhat taken aback – but it’s in the Guardian so it must be true!
his artcle is offensive.
so is you’re spelling
So is YOURS — jeez!
I object to the term ‘denial’ as it misrepresents a valid intellectual position.
(And, worryingly, echoes the use of denial in ‘holocaust denial’)
Hundal’s argument is packed ideological rhetoric. Purple prose and polemic.
What he has to say should be taken with a large pinch of salt.
Belief does not come into it. If he believes in AGW that is insufficient.
Mr Hundal what do you believe and please present us with your science.
My university training taught me not to accept ‘received wisdom’ at face value particularly if politics and money are involved and I am grateful to my supervisors back in the early 70′s for teaching me how to think for myself.
The guardian and the beeb are using the climategate scandal as a limited hang out. They will proclaim that a few people have let the side down, but the science is still as solid as ever, if not stronger for the climate scientists have found these minor and inconsequential flaws and taken action on the purpetrator. They will call for Professor Jones of CRU to be sacked and then get the AGW bus back on the road to a global final solution.
Well that is all bollocks. You cannot have a solid science that includes, hidden or manipulated datasets, biased peer-review, publications and editors threatened and raw data being deliberately hidden even to the extent of breaking the law on FOIA.
Each one of those things undermines the science. The accumulation of all of it undermines the science fatally.
Now we are discovering that not only was the peer-reviewed science fatally flawed, but much of what the IPCC relied on in their latest report, and used as references, was nothing more than unsubstantiated propaganda from media, magazine and political pressure groups own literature. A lot of their “claims” are not even remotely scientific and have never even been near a peer-review process at all, let alone a fixed and corrupt one.
What science does tell us is that mankind’s production of CO2 *may* raise temperatures, slightly. Not enough to cause any sort of climate catastrophe.
The whole AGW hypothesis of ‘man’s production of CO2 is going to destroy the planet’ as a scientific hypothesis is dead. It is a necrotic corpse.
The AGW hypothesis as a religious construct founded purely on faith, however, is as strong as ever. If not even stronger, for those who have such blind faith, the more they need faith to believe in something, the stronger that belief will be.
Actually, the Beeb has been surprisingly probing about the IPCC in the last few days.
Newsnight yesterday gave a platform to a number of hatcheteers. Perhaps they feel as outraged by lies as we do? Oh, no, they still favour NuLab, so that can’t be it.
Maybe they couldn’t work out who the rube was… i.e. it was them.
Roger Harrabin is asking for sceptic views from UK scientists occupying current academic positions:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/02/03/bbc-asks-wuwt-for-help/
Probably a ruse to winkle out non-believers and get them sacked. Or, more likely, he won’t be able to find any willing to be sacked and can then claim “no UK academics oppose the warmist view.”
Harrabin is a fucking clueless arts grad who is way out of his depth with climate science.
Harrabin is therefore the perfect beeboid science correspondent
Then they should get on the BBC and make the case for dumping AGW bollocks. There simply is no longer any credible scientific case to be made to rationalise taking this country back to the stone age to avoid a global warming catastrophe that we are neither causing, and nor could we ever stop if it were to happen. We do not have a thermostat for the sun, or the oceans!
Precisely. How many 4 x4s were the mammoths driving?
AGW = bollocks.
It was probably all those mammoth farts. Farts being a bigger cause of global warming than CO2. Apparently. The mammoths quite literally farted themselves out of existence.
You’re on to something, jgm2. That’s how the last ice age ended (35,000 years BP). And to think I spent years at university being fed a pack of lies about the Earth’s wonky orbit, albedo, variability in solar activity, and suchlike shite.
“The ideological demons that Keith Joseph had thought slain have come back again. ”
Keith Fucking Joseph. I thought we’d slain that cretin as well.
dickhead
Yes he is. Keith Dickhead Joseph. I’m so glad you agree..
Talking of which, what is the difference between a Fairy Tale Prince and Prince Charles (apart from the obvious good looks, humility and unspoilt good nature of one of them)?
The first one slayed the dragon and married the princess!
Technically, I don’t think Charles slayed Princess Di. Not unless he was the one in the white Fiat Uno.
Was he the one that gave the driver the ricards?
Ppl of slay = slew.
Ah! That’s why the spell-check was throwing up squiggly red lines!
It could offer no alternative, though. Stupid spell-check.
(as opposed to me, for just being, well, just stupid).
Joseph was an original thinker with the courage to follow his arguments through to their conclusions.
We need such people as an antidote to the sheepy masses.
Only problem is, most folks can’t take them for what they are – cf the shock-horror response to Enoch Powell’s dicta on race. He was only doing the same thing as Joseph, pressing an argument to its conclusion.
Unfortunately, such thinking can end up is some daft places, but that does not invalidate it as a contribution to debate.
What you are arguing for is somebody with intellectual honesty and a backbone to enter into the political fray!! Im sorry but we only have a pool of about 60 million to fish in. You might have to wait sometime.
Should be good , lets hope he can tease the substance out .
We don’t want to scare the people in the marginals, do we? They bruise easily
Perhaps Frazer could explain why his fellow Scots don’t vote Conservative, instead of running around telling the rest of us where we’ve all gone wrong.
Do you think he is related to Horatio
Semi-nominally. Could be substantially more closely related to Fule.
Scotland has achieved the uniques status of deliberately making itself economically subservient to a country it politicaly and culturaly despises. It then goes on to argue that its woes are all the fault of the English.
Well stuff them lets declare English and Cornish independence. If they cant or wont vote conservative lets teach them a thing or two about real politics. You cant piss on the majority of people all the time and expect them to pay your bills.
I really wish the Conservative party had Fraser Nelson as its Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer and Douglas Murray
as the Leader of the Opposition.
No more Scots in government PLEASE
Seconded
Tony Blair. Lab. Scottish.
Gordon Brown. Lab. Scottish.
Dave Cameron. Con. Scottish.
Lord Pearson. UKIP. Scottish.
Nick Clegg. LibDem. English. Convicted arsonist.
Fuck.
Can we, during this time of recession, afford to waste 3.5 billion pounds this year on a pointless military operation in Afghanistan?
Of course we cannot.
Can we afford to waste 3.5 billion pounds EVERY year on the BBC?
Of course we cannot.
If we withdraw from the foreign policy mistake in Afghanistan and cut the budget of the BBC by 1.5 billion a year that would save us 4.5 billion in a single year, 45 billion pounds over the course of the next two parliaments.
We could then convert those savings into tax cuts which would boost the economy and get us out of recession in the quickest possible timeframe.
Let’s do it.
My mistake, the saving would of course be 5 billion pounds per year, 50 billion pounds saved over the course of two parliaments.
We just saved an extra 5 billion!
Even better.
A £5bn annual saving, when government debt is increasing by £170bn per annum? Interest payments on Brown’s debt catastrophe are £25.6bn and headed towards £50.7bn (2013/14).
I think we should try harder. But George Osborne has identified a saving of£1bn per year, and he seems very happy with that. So what do I know?
You are much better at maths than Gordon Brown.
Instead of toying with playing with particular levels of spending on this or that government program, we need to decide whether entire ministries ought to exist at all? Minitry of sport, media and bollocks can go, along with international development and half the bloody government. Do we even need half of it?
We need to re-evaluate what the role of government should be in our lives, if politicians think we need to police the world, maintain a police state, and hold everyone’s hand from the cradle to the grave then government spending will only ever go up. If however you think the role of government in our lives has become too great, that the essence of our liberty, the very freedoms that our soliders died in battle for, are being slowly surrendered to the government under the guise of protecting us from a foreign enemy, real or imagined, then we can get the government off of our backs, out of our pockets and out of our lives.
Can I vote for you British Militia?
But Keith Joseph was a certifiable nutcase who lived on hard-boiled eggs. Do the Tories want to win this election or what? They’re walking into a trap.
Guido, Fraser Nelson and the Conservatives are ten years to late, you are quite frankly fucked what ever you do.
The demographics and values of Britain have changed too much. The battle is now not worth fighting or winning.
We are destined to failed state status and quite frankly, good, let the public get what they deserve for not having the intelligence or coherence to see through the scam of socialism and communism.
The sensible are getting out while they can.
Sadly I have to concur. They may try to squeeze them till the pips squeek, but that will only hasten the inevitable. Britain is on a one way track to turd world status aided and abetted by vermin like Ed Balls and the one eyed fuckpig from Fife.
Just think, when Blair, Brown and Blunket were holding the major offices of state, they only had three good eyes between them! No wonder we are in such a fucking mess ….
alas you are probably correct
Let’s consider how failed. Interest alone on HMG debt is currently around £30bn annually, predicted to be around £60bn in four years time. Yet the total HMG debt is expected to continue rising over the next two parliaments. In the next parliament but one (if such come to pass) the interest alone then should exceed £100bn annually.
Yes, read that again. £100bn annually in interest alone – as fealty pure and simple to the banksters – for what, exactly? To perpetuate a monopoly license to gouge and burden every single working person in this country – and their descendants for two generations? If I buy a mule from an Andes peasant, or a camel from an Egyptian, am I entitled not only to the mule’s or the camel’s utility, but to that of their offspring, and their offspring’s offspring?
The economy is in a ‘phoney war’ hiatus as of now. I would not be a politician when the shelling starts in earnest.
I heard someone saying that it will be like Haiti, but colder.
Yes we are living in a failed state. A state that has nearly committed suicide by its acceptance of the Lisbon Treaty vote UKIP get us out and let the real politics of sorting out the mess that we are in begin!
Amen
Here! Here!
But we need to be bloody quick about it
RCheck
Ah, at last, someone talking hard sense.
The battle is lost, it’s sad, but think of your kids or yourselves.
I have registered my baby as french, without a french gene in her body.
I just cannot bring myself to register her as a Great Britney second nationality.
Everything says NO!
She can chose to be Belgian when she is 18 if she wants.
Why tie her, in any way, to a completely lost cause.
Some good points. Shame about the ludicrous voice…
cmd should be burting the snotgobbler at every opportunity……..
EVERYONE HATES GORDON FFS!!!!!!!!!
EVEN HIS OWN PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!
stop pissing about and get stuck in!!!!!!!!!
stop being wet and find some balls………..
todays pmqs was a step in the right direction……….
for the tories……………..LABOUR HAVE FUCKED UP EVERYTHING IN THE LAST 12 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GROW SOME…..start being men instead of politicians!!!!!!!!!!!
That’s a lorra lorra exclamation marks for one post!!!!!!!!
U-KHUUUUURRRKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (squeetle)
The parrot’s in plain view and they haven’t drawn the curtains!
Get rifle
Check compressed-air bottle
Load pellet
Adjust focus
Align crosshairs
Suspend breathing
Relax
Squeeze trigger
BAM! Straight through the bonce! Green feathers everywhere. How’s that for shooting? Mind you, I can’t miss with this fucker.
I see normal service has resumed at PMQ’s today, the best question was the first, thought Brown was going to throw a nokia.
And Douglas Alexander avoided eye contact with Brown.
typo.hurting.
BREAKING NEWS
The Iranian Government has announced that it has launched a worm into space.
Cherie Blair expects her husband to re-enter earth’s atmosphere in the next 24 hours.
That rocket was nothing more than a glorified firework
it set off like a ferrari much to fast for a rocket hoping to get any where near space ! just another publicity stunt from MadMoo Armoured dinner jacket !
In 45 minutes this WMD will strike Stan Boardman’s chippy. Trust me.
The slab of steaming shite called Labour deserve to win, then after a few months the new idle rich and the public bedwetters will be rioting when their government cheque has not arrived because the imf say fuck you go find a real job, we wont have to pray for the demise of the labour cliteratti, the screaming mob will rip them to fuck.
Winning isn’t enough – but it might be a beginning. I still think it’s 50:50 whether the Tories have the guts and the will to fix this fucking country. The economy is wrecked. Education is a mess. Social mobility all but destroyed. We are on a multi-cultural death march at home while spilling blood and treasure abroad.
If you were a Tory Minister in the next government would you resign yourself to keep on troughing or would you be brave enough to fight to pull the country out of its death spiral?
I think if they did then they would have had the guts to find a way to oust brown 2 years ago- around the time when they could have created a clean slate on which to build a better britain.
Now we have a totally bodgepatched burnt out earth dam which is just going to get more bodges or slight tinkering. And if they do try on cutting out the diseased part to create a foundation to build then the whole debt lake is gonna rain down on us all.
After 2008, was too late.
The Tories don’t want to win the election. They want Labour to scrape it, perhaps in coalition with the Lib Dems.
Within hours there will be a furious run on the pound and gilt auctions will fail as foreign investors dump Britain’s ponzi currency and debt.
The economic maelstrom that follows will force the ineffectual govt to call another election within 6 months, which the Tories will win by a landslide much to the relief of a terrified electorate.
The Tories will then have to impose the austerity and pain required to pull the economy out of it’s death plunge.
I raise you The civil contingencies act, if Labour win they’ll keep on ruining for the whole term however many die in their revolution.
blood on the street, tanks on the lawns, dogs and cats living together MASS HYSTERIA!!!!!!!
I agree, if CMD hasn’t the balls now it is because of a lack of confidence in his own abilities, that’s all we need, Dave nice but Dim
646 of them. 61,000,000 of us
Bring it on. in the car park
Oh do fuck off, you silly fat ponce.
We would prefer it if you fucked off.
I see the large tube of silicone known as jordan has got married again !
another tv series, and another failed celeb fills his bank account
out of the sad classes
who will she marry next week ?
13 years of Labour rule has accelerated the dumbing-down of Britain.
The Frankfurt Schoolers and their useful idiots must be delighted.
Still something about Labour rule has rubbed off on the next generation.
Future politicians in the making.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8493132.stm
Anyone who needs to cheat the get a GCSE really is a fucking loser.
Doesn’t Ed Balls send a large stack of them to every child on their 16th birthday?
and this is ‘news’ for what reason??
Dumbed down media keeping the sheeple happy again, why don’t they lead with the fact that the economy is fucked?
It is pretty clear that Gordon Brown as chancellor cut the defence budget during the Iraq occupation in order to try to sabotage Blair’s attempt at glory. He has been caught playing gutter politics with British soldier’s lives.
At the Chilcot enquiry yesterday, Clare Short said Brown told her his fear was that success in the Iraq war would strengthen Blair’s hand in the Cabinet and that he (Brown) would be forced out of the Treasury and into the Foreign Office.
We then hear, today, from Sir Keith Tebbit, who informs us that Brown subsequently made ‘arbitrary’ defence cuts, ‘guilloting’ the budget, which led to massive cutbacks at the front-line of the war.
Brown deliberately tried to sabotage the war effort as part of his feud with Blair. A treasonous act IMO.
Brown is verminous. He should be in prison for what he has done.
Brown couldn’t go to a regular prison because he’d be ripped apart by the inmates, probably encouraged by the Screws.
Secure mental hospital would be far more appropriate – he’d fit right in with the other patients!
Brown, piano-wire, lamppost.
Some assembly required.
What a bloody good idea!
All meet up at Downing St. on May 7th?
Broadmoor beckons.
I think, more importantly what he was doing when he cut the MoD budget during the Iraq War (how shocking was that!!?) was trying to lengthen the war by slowing our troops down for lack of proper equipment.
Why? Well as Clare Short said in her evidence yesterday – gordon believed that our tone planned a fast and glorious war, quickly won and then planned a cabinet reshuffle that would rid him of gordon.
gordon’s actions in cutting the defence budget, were as all gordon’s actions are, selfishly centred on his own personal wellbeing and struggle for political survival and to prevent tone carying out that cabinet reshuffle. And he was happy to sacrifice the lives of our troops on the frontline for that purpose!!
He didn’t give a toss about the men in the frontline in Iraq , poorly equipped and in snatch landrovers that were being blown to hell. Anymore than he gives a toss about our lads in Afghanistan without the Ridgebacks, Chinooks, body armour and protection against IED’s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
Think of Gordon and Tick off Millon’s subtypes….
As Millon said a Charlatan – Millon’s symptoms fit so amazingly perfectly.
Fanatic or unprincipled? Spooky
Everyone of them except Amorous IMHO.
We’d have to ask Mandy about that….
The tories haven’t accepted Brown’s arguments; what they’ve done is pretended that some aspects of some of his arguments have some validity, and they’ve only done that because the electorate are too stupid to understand the severity of the current economic reality.
Prior to thatcher being elected, she didn’t say “I’m going to sack millions of public workers”, she waited until she got in and then did whatever was needed for the long term good of the country. Her overall approach before being elected was similar to the approach of the tories now; giving a hint of what’s to come but not telling the whole story. If they told the whole story now then they wouldn’t get elected because the majority of voters are, sadly, very very stupid.
Spot on. Besides, the only reason that sterling hasn’t crashed and the gilts market hasn’t collapsed is because the markets expect the Tories to get elected soon and slash public spending.
If Cameron gives the impression he isn’t going to do that then the gilt and currency markets will crash before the elction and Brown will rightfully get the blame.
Why should Cameron prop up gilts and the pound while Brown gets the credit?
Well put anon.
Been out of the loop for a bit but didn’t Cammo recently backtrack on the cuts reality check and ‘promise’ nothing much for at least a year? That may come back to bite him on the arse if so. I’m no admirer of many aspects of Thatcher’s legacy but I don’t get the feeling that Cameron is in the same league when it comes to thinking more than a move ahead.
What could be another mass employer? Unless a leader emerges with the start of a real answer to that we are left to choose which deck chair attendent we prefer. Dig for victory, it’s what the third world do
Well said anonymous……the tactic of keep hammering again and again on the government’s performance and quoting their own words at them will bear fruit but progress is painful.
Brown’s batteries are draining and his repetitive answering technique becoming more and more risible and well frankly bizarre..he really does believe this rubbish and clearly hopes the public will swallow it too.
I am sure the conservatives should concert their questions so that one after another they ask a searcher on a series of themes to corner this baffoon at the despatch box.
Unfortunately when Blair changed the twice a week PMQs to one session only and the fact, apart from leaders of major opposition parties, the questioner has no right of follow up Brown is able to get away without ever answering a question. He really does need nailing down.
The prime mincer is the author of the technique and clearly Brown’s improved at employing it since his ladyship returned to the fold.
Should be somewhere else I suppose, however, how the f*ck is it that this government is still in place, shrugging off the blows of dishonesty, corruption and sleaze that would have brought down a Tory Government years ago…. it beggars belief !! C*nts !!
It helps to have the BBC on your side.
Yep, the Beeb is the answer. Amazing it is absorbed by the many simple trusting folk of the British Isles like a giant state-funded dose of Preparation H.
Cameron should destroy the Beeboid bastards within the first 100 days, then he can take the tough decisions on the economy.
Agreed, Axe the TT, except I’d say “within the first 24 hours”.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/8496759.stm
Bizarre story, especially about the gorilla..
Keep digging, Jimmy, keep digging…
The poster Jimmy sounds like a Zionist troll.
And you fell for it.
Sheesh.
hello again tat
hows the blog?
As I understand it his site has a strict no retard policy.
That’s you fucked then.
new job started already Mr Simon?
“Let’s dig up the jew bastard and give his bones to wild dogs, and then go and give the missus a few slaps.”
Just a normal night out in Jockland then Jimmy, you сunt.
The poster “Jimmy” is a Labour/Zionist troll trying to get this blog labelled as ‘anti-semitic’.
It’s a tactic they’ve used many times before.
the poster jimmy is thick as thieves playing silly buggers because he’s still in the huff pufff with Guido
Got it wrong again dimwit.
You are as mad as a march hare.
You fell for it as well.
Jimmy’s a Zionist. They post anti-Jewish propaganda to trick people like you.
Double sheesh.
Jimmy is actually Louise Ellman the Labour/Israel MP for Liverpool Riverside.
And you are, Sir?
Pray tell.
Benjamin Netanyahu, why, who wants to know?
Who the fuck are you?
linkenjaegar? Fuck off.
linkenjaeger is actually Dame Gerald Kaufman of Gorton in the parish of Manchester.
Not true Desmond: there was no mention of buckfast tonic wine, Scotland’s human diesel fuel.
Shit is that a Toyota behind ?
The car in front is a Toyota…..
….Because it couldn’t stop!
It’s those fucking Japs getting back at the Americans for Hiroshima.
Just as I prophesized
http://www.margaretthatcher.org/speeches/displaydocument.asp?docid=108353
Well I hope he can match Maggie’s Keith Joseph Memorial speech of 1996.
She spoke of a man who dared to tell the truth about the economy! Well in the years ahead no-one is going to say that about gordon, with his persistent lies and obfuscation, are they? But cameron too at the moment is being less than candid about his plans for the economy. I guess he could argue the need to ‘keep his powder dry’ but he is going to have to more open before the election.
Maggie spoke of Keith Joseph’s belief in Liberty and Limited Government. Now there’s a phrase to ponder on given the way this stalinist government has eroded our liberties and freedoms and massively expanded the state!! I’m not sure how cameron is going to roll back from that , but again he needs to tell us and soon!!
Several austerity budgets, longer prison sentences for criminals, a halt on third-world immigration, and repatriation of foreigners who commit crime should do for starters.
I’d vote for that!
Wembley would look like Hiroshima after breakfast 6th August 1945/
Bring back poor students who need part time and seasonal work, didn’t do that much harm, was good fun actually
Fraser is right the Tories are stuck in a political neurosis.Prisoner to their own (self-perceived) guilt of supposed prior failures.Whilst at the same time discounting their prior successess ( typical of all neurotics )
Its almost as if Brown ( his ideaology ) has become their superego ( the higher self ) whom they must appease or be punished by that higher self (electoral defeat being that punishment )
This is the dance of the neurotic a self propelled vicious circle whith which the neurotic clings to in order to be accepted.Except acceptance is never gained because acceptance can only be gained through breaking away from this pernicious relationship and realising one own strenghts.
As an example take an article from The Times online from earlier in the week: A Shadow Cabinet Member likened the Torys emotional attitude to the coming General Election as if they (the Tories) we carrying a Ming Vase across a very slippery floor.That they were so afraid of dropping the vase ( ie losing the election) .A typically neurotic attitude and one which often becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
It is wise to be cautious but when fear and uncertainty become over bearing the very essensse of the self identity is lost.This is what the Tories could well do to realise.
Typo ! Excusez -Moi
Sure it wasn’t a typoo, otherwise knows as a Freudian shit?
You are being very wise tonight Anonymous. But one wonders if this is the tories neurosis what on earth is gordon’s??
What I remember of my very meagre studies of psychology is that there are three major states of awareness – how we see ourselves – how we believe others see us – and how in reality others do see us.
For gordon his belief that he is the saviour of the world and is the pre-eminent expert on the economy seems to suggest that he is fixated on how he sees himself and that he is psychologically incapable of understanding the other two more profound states of awareness.
I’ve no idea what this means in terms of mental illness but no doubt a Psychologist would be able to enlighten us.
Psychobabble, it started in America.
Brown is a schizoidal/narcissistic sociopath. He hates us because he’s always right and we’re always wrong.
Brown is often wrong and maybe sometimes you are too.
Life is not black and white and the statement you have made is just a load of fucking garbage.
Please improve the qualtiy of your posts Den. At the moment you are just a waste of space.
pseudonym. I guess Den’s post hit the spot, hey?
It’s not nice for everyone to find out that your boss Gordon is a narcissistic sociopath, is it!
“Brown is a schizoidal/narcissistic sociopath. He hates us because he’s always right and we’re always wrong.”
That’s just a statement of fact mate, FFS.
It sounds like ‘pseudonym’ is upset.
Oh well, he can always drag another secretary out of her chair, punch an aide, or scream abuse at some young male underlings while wearing nothing but his shit-stained y-fronts with his dick hanging out.
Psuedonym, try learning to spell pseudonym, you thick, illiterate Labour cockmuncher.
TH,Clubfoot&Den,
I am one of the most vociferous opponents of Gordon Brown so that torpedoes your accusation of me working for the moron.
Judging by your posts (which are probably made by the same person who must therefore be suffering from a personality disorder) you three must be Brown’s psychiatrists and have access to his medical files.
No?
So you are just talking shit then.
That is a statement of fact.
If you have no points to make but just want to smear people then you are no better than Draper, Whelan and McBride.
That is logic.
If you have anything to add to the debate regarding Gordon Brown’s political failings please do, if you just want to mouth off a load of unsubstantiated shit and suck each other off then fuck off and get a room for your gay orgy.
He’s about to find out from the ballot box that We have the last word and that we think he is the one that is wrong/mentally ill/ economically incompetent/administratively chaotic/ hopeless and useless.
Dave Believes he’s Tony Balir.
How dangerous is that?
he also thinks he’s tony blair
Nobody wants to be tone.
Whatever whitewash report Chilcott eventually writes about the Iraq debacle – the truth about tone’s and gordon’s personal vendetta that they allowed to take precedence over the care and safety of the men they sent into war is now exposed and made very public.
Both of them will go down in history as figures of ridicule but more importantly – figures of disgust !!
They used a war for their own personal gain and political leverage. History won’t forget that!!
And hopefully the electorally won’t forget it either. I think Cameron struck home (and hit a raw nerve) with his comments to Brown on the war issue at PMQs today. Brown’s shameful attempts to scrimp on Defence spending while sending our servicemen and women into harms way won’t play well in the pubs and living rooms of ordinary voters . ITV and C4 gave the issue top billing. The BBC of course tried their best to play it down.
Cameron has to bang on about the venality and nastiness of Brown and these NuLab criminals citing examples such as this. Today was a decent start.
whoops, typo: I meant the ‘the electorate’ wont forget
Bullshit. The Tories don’t want to win the next election. Let Mad Gordo and his Lib Dem coalition mates sort out the mess while the markets sink the pound and dump gilts.
A more sinister question JL is why does gordon want to win the next election?
He’s got two Wars on the go and he’s made it more than obvious that he hasn’t got any interest in looking after the men in the front line – he wants to cut funds and he doesn’t care if it means losing lives. We’ll merge, he says, our forces with the hostile french! Like hell we will!!
Saving Jobs? No! He has already issued a letter to all Westminster Government Departments saying that the jobs in every Department are going to be cut by 25%. No Consultation. No early retirements. Just arbitrary cuts! Why has he done that ?
This man’s an Idiot!!
The experience which we glibly call ‘love’ is a profound disturbance of the psyche; a kind of madness which disrupts the endocrine system and results in atypical and obsessive behaviour. In particular, pursuit of the object of the ‘beloved’ can cause crippling rage, bottomless despair, even murder.
Brown’s dream of uniting the British and French armed forces plays on a symbolic level to a lover’s dream of bonding with the beloved and emerging as a strengthened and revivified force.
If Cameron were a real Tory he’d squish his superego and demolish Brown with a piledriver of id.
If.
LOL
“AV is like the X factor,” apparently. At least this how they’re gonna wrap it up and sell it to the proles.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8493452.stm
The public decide on the 2 biggest then 1 guy chooses his favourite (or is it all 4 that do it, I don’t watch it) hence rendering the whole public choosing thing a bit of a big farce?
Yeah, sounds about right
I believe the TV technique was to choose the winner themselves, charge people for voting and ignore their opinions completely.
I am sure that this is the version of AV that our Great Leader has in mind.
just a thought 1 labour have created millions of public service jobs
millions of people on invalidity benifits
and millions of long term unemployed
this coupled with their core votes
they could still do better than we all think
especialy if the rig the way we do elections
like they have anounced
this scum will do anything to stay in power !
Let them! The twats deserve another term. It’ll be nasty, brutish and short – but it’ll be their last for a generation
I remember Fraser Nelson from Glasgow University, he stood out.
It was the brown suit, looked like a double glazing salesman but likeableish from what I saw.
“Winning Is Not Enough“.
He really needs to stop watching Bond Movies, terrible adlib, lacking a certain dynamic.
stick with the programme Nelson
full speed ahead
How about, “Winning is Everything”? That sounds more like it.
How about Winner Has Everything, my dear boy.
How about, “Whinging is not enough. Do something.”
George
you been on holiday lately ?
haven’t seen you post for ages.
IMF! Deary me!
8 Skidmarks for Britain
these are the peoples spending cuts
shit I can’t go on. do you like this?
Anyone noticed how “Dave” has developed a “I’ve shit my pants” look recently?
Treasury insiders have told him how bad the nation’s books really are….
He probably thinks that if it works for Gordon, it’ll probably work for him, except for the very obvious fact that nothing works for Gordon.
Prune juice is reputed to work wonders for what he’s full of.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2837393/Brit-and-French-troops-to-share.html
aintbustingaut says his proposals to cut the MoD budget by £millions/billions means we have to amalgamate with the french.
Well!!! ++++Laugh++++
We’d be better asking the people’s of the South Pole for an alliance.
What an Idiot!!
This sounds like a sneaky way of tying us into an integrated EU defence force.
It should be resisted strongly.
This is where it’s going once they have an EU force
they can quickly put down any unrest in any country
,any anti Eu protests
there will be no chance of any countries military taking up arms in support of its own people
all part of the big plans of the EU super state !
Not to mention tasty contracts for French defence contractors – but then McFaddish is Sarko’s bitch is he not? (EU referendum issue).
The frogs and krauts have tried for hundreds of years to capture this country without success Brown gave it to them without a shot being fired
he must be very proud ! all those millions of brave men and women who gave their lives
to keep this country british and independent of mainland europe
there used to be a saying many years ago that an old soldier used to say
“There are only two type’s of people in this world !
Those who are english,and those that want to be” !
How true how very true !
it breaks my fucking heart to see this once great nation over run with the scum of the world and run now by the very people who for years have tried to destroy it
the last time the germans wanted france it fell in 48 hours how patriotic is that ? a country the size of france captured in 48 hours!
their leader gereral degaulle well he was first across the channel
and spent the rest of the war standing on the cliffs of dover shaking his fist and hurling abuse at the germans
while being protected by the english !
then when the British (with a few yanks) took his fucking country back he marched down the champs elysees as if he’d done it all single handed
well i’ve got news for you frogs
this time if you want it back
you can do it your fucking selves !
In the new Eu partnership the Jerries run the industry, the Frogs run the accounts and the British supply the cannon fodder.
Could have been worse.
The Frogs provide the soldiers, the Jerries provide the comedians and the Brits do the catering.
What, like 200+ servicemen and women on toast? Must be a very tasty dish to serve up for a working breakfast in Brussels.
i think what they will find is that the British soldier fights for Britain and the Queen
Not for france,germany or the EU or barosso, merkels or sarkozi
if you mention germany to any british soldier they will class them as the old enemy!
i dont see many young brits enlisting to protect europe !
What they believe and what they sacrifice their lives for are not the same thing.
They are told that they are keeping terrorists off the streets of Britain. Until they come home and are jeered as baby killers by the fifth column.
They are told that they are part of the EU’s “presence” in bringing democracy to Afganistan, and then see the crook Karzi propped up in a corrupt mafia which they lay down their lives to maintain.
And where is the Queen they fight to protect? Busy signing away national independance to the “old enemy”.
The French own our energy generation so this treasonous labour fucktocracy have surrendered this free and soveriegn isle to foreign occupation. Now the Queen’s military have to merge with a foriegn power? I do believe that it unconstitutional and an act of treason.
“so this treasonous labour fucktocracy have surrendered this free and soveriegn isle to foreign occupation.
Not that The Conservatives had any part to play in this appeasement.
“so this treasonous labour fucktocracy have surrendered this free and soveriegn isle to foreign occupation.”
Of course Heath is a fucking traitor, I am not defending the tories here and anyone who has read my posts will be under no doubts about how I feel about them, but there were many industries that the tories in the 80′s and 90′s refused to allow overseas buyers to buy up. When did the French buy our electricity and our nuclear energy? It was not under the tories.
I do differentiate between the tories under Heath, the tories under Thatcher/Major and the tories now.
Heath was and always will be regarded as a treasonous traitor to this country.
Thatcher did a lot of what needed to be done but she went doo-lally at the end, was in power too long and lost touch (as a consequence of being in power too long). Major was a hopeless leader, a terrible and embarrassing communicator, but he implemented policy brilliantly. He turned the economy around in the 1990′s and handed over the best economic inheritance any incoming government has ever received.
Cameron reminds me far too much of Heath and I do not trust him in the least.
none of this detracts from the point being that LABOUR have sold many of our strategically important industries, and iconic British Brands to foreign owners. Under labour We have lost our entire car making industry to foreign ownership. Iconic British Marques like Rolls Royce and Bentley became German.
I hope that I am wrong about the proposed merger of the military with the French. IF we are only talking about having to get French private companies to help construct military hardware, then that is nothing new. The CVF contract was jointly awarded to BAe and Thales after all.
But to merge the Queen’s military with a foreign power??? I do not believe that this can be lawfully done. It is NOT Parliament’s military. It is the QUEENS!
Has anyone bothered to tell the French?
My Uncles, who fought in WW2, used to say often – ‘You are OK in Battle so long as you don’t go into the fight with the French at your back’
There is no way the British and french are ever going to agree over military matters – gordon and ainbustinagut are having an’ Alice in Wonderland’ moment!!!
Yep, the Yanks call them cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys – and rightly.
Con Coughlin and the Telegraph blog commenters are not impressed, either.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/concoughlin/100024887/we-cant-trust-the-french-to-be-our-allies-on-the-battlefield/
And the aptly renamed Freedom fries !
There was an apocryphal episode of “Yes Minister” where Sir Humphrey explained to Jim Hacker that Britain had to have nuclear weapons because the French had them, and it was nothing to do with the cold war at all.
Yes Minister always struck me as a programme that was so true to real life it was painful.
That was neo-con bullshit to bully other nations into not having the bollocks to disagree about I-raq.
Repeating that you’re actually saing that Blair was right to agree. If Blair had sense we’d be with the “axis of weasels” too.
Engineer and the telegraph:
“President Jacques Chirac’s attempts to sabotage the transatlantic alliance in the build-up to the Iraq war are well-documented.”
Bloody surrender monkey. obviously didnt try hard enough to ruin the B+B show.
What i did notice was McBusts commitment to building 3 aircraft carriers in Scotland “Scotish jos for Scotish workers” ? Funded with english money !
*securing the existance of labour in scotland)
what good aircraft carriers are to the lads in Afghanistan
i dont know might as well give all the troops chocolate umbrellas
even if they are ever built
We dont have enough planes to fill them !
Very well said!
Not enough helicopters – no equipment to deal with IED’s, not enough body armour, where are the Ridgebacks(not in Afghanistan)? Why do we not have enough medical support? Why are the armaments our lads are given not up to the environmental conditions they are fighting in , and on and on …………..
nell. Does Mr nell not get the hump with the amount of time you spend here? Why do we not hear from him?
I bet he’s enjoying the peace and quiet.
mr nell is asleep when I post in the morning 6.30am to 8am approx.
I sometimes and only sometimes post at lunchtimes when he’s busy.
In the evenings I post between 7.30pm and 10pm – thereabouts whilst he’s watching the telly.
Why do you not hear from him. He thinks politics is a dirty, worthless business not worthy of any attention. He’s watched too much of gordon and tone unfortunately.
As I said, enjoying the peace and quiet!
Nell – did you pick up yesterday – ‘Sky’ was it? – that it takes eight years to train up one of the explosives people to full ‘status’ – sorry if I’ve got the wrong term – but the substance is correct.
So it follows, when they die, the loss, – may they rest in Peace, – is felt deeply.
And of course, Gorgon’s new friends know that.
Can we supply the umbrella’s?
An alliance with the french means we bail them out in their time of need.
In return we get a bloke shrugging that it’s all very difficult while puffing on his Gauloise and selling munitions to the other side. No thanks, why can’t we ally with the Jerries at least they know how to fight.
Not now they don’t. Their boys won’t venture out after dark.
Increasingly neither do ours ( health and safety issues )
A couple of Somali pirates in a rowing boat and our Royal Navy turned tail and ran. Have that English couple the navy was too scared to save died of their beatings and starvation yet?
Well, the Yanks don’t trust Brown with the codes for the British not-so-independent nuclear deterrent.
Maybe the French will give him his own remote controller (cunningly disguised as a Nokia) for the Force de Frappe if he gurns at them nicely enough.
Or better off asking the bloody Hun! At least they know (or knew) how to fight.
h h h has n n n anybody n n no not noticed b b b br br browns s s s st st st stu stuttering is getting w w w worse ?
I hear Brown wet his pants in public again. It was when he was in front of the select committee yesterday. He walked out with a big wet mark down the front of his trousers and left a puddle on the floor.
Has he stopped wearing nappies or are they just for when he’s on his rocking horse?
Mrs Beard should lend him her prolapse pads.
(Ladies – please avert your gaze)
It’s semen my dere, – such meetings always give him a hard-on.
It’s an affectation….
And also gives a smidge more thinking time…. to allow the torrid turgid standard shit answer to float to the surface.
Oh what am I thinking of . . . it’s the largactil slowing him up – notice how he never goes out in the sun but spends all day in the bunker?
I like in Britain. Why you all moany?
Too many pikeys.
TaT you jock spastic
hows your website ? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Anybody who has read his posts knows that TaT is anti fascist.
You sound like a nazi though.
Go to bed Tat
Sadly dave is limited in what he can do and say by his silver spoon background.
I suspect in order to show he is an ordinary guy he will SPEND to try and prove his point. At the moment he’s getting indecision a bad name.
Davey Boy is out of his depth.
What another weak effort at PMQs.
The Tories must be in total despair.
Defeat from the jaws of victory.
hello yet again tat
how is that website going?
Wrong yet again, that is clearly not TaT.
At least you are consistent.
Haven’t you been to TaT’s website?
Oh yeah, you’re banned. Tough shit, eh.
Silver spoon background Huh?!!
Of course gordon was working class wasn’t he?? No? What a surprise!
Harriet Harman? No!
Ed Balls? No!
Alastair Darling ? No !
Ruth Kelly? No!
The Militwits? No!
and on..and on………..
Labour knows very little about the real working classes!!!!
I’m so VERY working class it hurts!
And Edwin gets in touch wiv ‘is roots every day.
You see!? I can tork just loik ‘em.
(aside) Edwin, – be a dear and pass the champers darling would you ?
Sociology exam question.
Write 500 words explaining why the idle rich aren’t, and the working class don’t.
Never as true as it is now.
Because the benefits system pays more money per week to not work than the slave wages offered by the idle rich?
“Finking is not enough”.
Well, thuck me fru a hedge thirst! Fat may be true, indeed, it is self-evidently so. But wouldn’t it be a good idea if more were to learn how to fink for femselves – I mean creative (personal) finking, not imitating someone else’s (tribal) finking?
(BTW if you imagine any of this is about finks, thuck off, because it isn’t).
“Self-evidently”?
What a give away!
You are Sion somebody-or-other and I claim my free wig.
Where is Thatcher when we need her?
Oh, of course, her party kicked her out!
Dave’s not fit to lick her boots.
Anyone like to buy a kalashnikov?
“Payback time for mummsy”.
Most of Thatcher’s supporters are dead. The remainder congregate here to reminisce.
All the Tories have to do is Study Ronald Regan. Its all there as clear as daylight Reganomics works; its logical and, what is more WE NEED A LARGE DOSE OF IT!
As to our personal freedom George Washington was on to it and Regan reminded us of it – As the state expands its areas of operation we, by definition, will see our personal freedom and liberties contracting.
study a corpse
yep, that’s about Blu Labours speed
Where there is initiative, we will Health & Safety it
Where there is goodwill, we will CRB check it
Where there is Community Spirit, we will multi-culturalise it
Where there is patriotism, we will demonise it
Where there are close-knit communities, we will ghettoise it
Where there is trust, we will Data Protect it,
Where there is national pride, we will ‘Human Rights’ it
OT
Taste the panic. Car scrappage sheme extended to end of March – or Q1-2010. Every 20,000 quid spent on a foreign car helps try and nail on that ‘recovery’ eh?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8497239.stm
This incompetent Labour government is so transparent.
And this economy is so fucked.
This was probably Gordon using QE money to try and boost the quarterly stats by that all important 300 million quid.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8497287.stm
Giacometti sculpture fetches £65m at Sotheby’s auction
Another four of these and that’s the ‘recovery’ nailed on.
Actually, reading the rest of the article it identifies 100 million already spent. Another couple of Southebys auctions this quarter and Brown can crow about two successive periods of ‘recovery’.
That’s what last quarters ‘recovery’ amounted to. Three Southebys auctions. Sixty million people and our ‘recovery’ can be measured in terms of a couple of rich people’s ‘bring-and-buy’ sales.
Luckily Greece is even more skint that Gordistan is. So the Elgin marbles are safe, for now.
I’m thinking of buying a Toyota.
Extra thick driver’s doormat is a good option
Lets hope its one of those with a dodgy accelerator pedal
Duh!
Taste the panic.
Tories in total disarray!
What the feck are their policies….on anything?
What abunch of loosers.
Troll on McDuff.
Even the apparent policy vacuum of the Tories (bet that changes as the election nears) is better than the Labour ‘spend, spend, spend, even though we haven’t got any to spend’ policies.
Inspirational politics of the decade. We may be be arses, but look at them.
The deficit being run up by Brown should be alarming to anyone with two brain cells to rub together.
Which explains why so many of you Labour types are so blase about it.
Car scrappage and boiler scrappage .
gordon’s doing it because he thinks it’s going to win him votes. He is not doing it because he thinks its going to benefit the economy or the environment.
gordon only does anything because he thinks it will benefit him and his chances of hanging onto power.
Well as one cynical voter I’ll tell you this gordon – I’ll take advantage of your scrappage schemes but I won’t vote for you because I think you are an incompetent heap of beetle dung!!!
they should learn from Wavy Davy
he’s done fuck all to win votes lately
grim gordon has said we have to drastically cut MoD expenditure whilst we are still at war.
He also says we have to give our French ”partners” , who fundamentally disagree with our role in Afghanistan, a 50% say in our military stategy !!!
Not a hope in hell!!!
You forgot radio scrappage, Nell. Latest wheeze.
Ah, the nostalgia of it.
New portable digital sets about as big and heavy as one of those rexine-covered 1950s, pre-transistor, valve beauties.
Well its a good gamble we might get O.O1.5% growth
especilly as no fucker will be buying toyota’s
People want to know why I did a bit better at PMQs.
Well, the secret is simple.
I had a really good crap this morning, – and got rid of some more of this Bliarist crap I carry round.
I also realised the country is in a pretty bad way, people are sick to death with all the politically correct claptrap, – and someone had better do something.
Would that be me I wonder?
Though I’m not sure if that means I must give up being the Heir to Bliar.
This really sounds like gordon pacing the drowning street hall before he left for PMQ’s doesn’t it!?!!
Wavy Davy was actually stupid enough to do an ‘impression’ of Tony Blair during Question Time today
most unwise considering that is his entire stage act in a nutshell
Surprised no more has been made in the press of this, quite frankly bizarre, carry on:-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefrontline/7006304/MPs-criticised-for-accepting-Mickey-Mouse-medals.html
MPs have been condemned by ex-servicemen after accepting commemorative medals for spending time with the Armed Forces.
The AFPS medal is made of silver and is attached to a crimson, gold and green ribbon representing the colours of the Lords, the Queen and the Commons. It is an unofficial medal and is worn by recipients on the right breast.
MPs in the AFPS scheme are given a uniform to wear which comes with a specially-designed badge decorated with a portcullis, the symbol of Parliament, and are invited to take part at the entry level rank of Major. They can then earn promotion to Colonel and above, provided they put in enough “training” days.
So far, around 200 MPs have participated in the scheme – which is backed by the Ministry of Defence – but only between eight and ten have served the minimum of a decade to be eligible for the award.
Soldiers are only awarded medals if they serve in a war zone, serve in operations, or for long service or acts of conspicuous bravery.
The MPs’ medal ceremony has previously taken place in the Speaker’s state dining room at the House of Commons and is attended by senior military officers. Politicians known to have received the medal include Frank Cook, the Labour MP for Stockton North, who was awarded his by Air Chief Marshal Sir Jock Stirrup, the current Chief of the Defence Staff. Others to be awarded the medal, according to the AFPS annual report, include the Tories Roger Gale, MP for Thanet North; James Gray, MP for North Wiltshire; Edward Garnier QC, MP for Harborough and the shadow Attorney General; and Julian Lewis, MP for New Forest East, who have all reached the rank of colonel or above.
Not many people know that!
I’d really like to meet one of the posseurs though
Round the back of parliament. At night. When they’re pissed up from the subsidised bar after a reunion night spent swapping yarns of being pinned down under fire in the House.
Oh. And i’ve got a large bludgeon. With nails protruding.
Curiouser and Curiouser:-
http://my.telegraph.co.uk/www.nationaldefencemedal.webs.com/blog/2009/11/18/armed_forces_parliamentary_scheme_failing
Freedom of Information requests submitted have identified that the AFPS is not run by the MOD or Parliament but by a private individual who acts as the un-elected Chairman together with a council of Defence Contractors who provide financial support. Selection and de-selection appears to be in the gift of the self appointed Chairman who has also denied public access to the AFPS accounts.
MPs on the scheme wear AFPS uniforms and are promoted annually. Some now hold the AFPS rank of Air Commodore or Brigadier and wear strange badges of rank depicted by crowns and a parliamentary portcullis. This small private ‘Army’ also award themselves medals for services to defence at special dinners in the Speaker’s dining room in Parliament.
What a cracking bit of verbiage from the Nelson
Christ where is the back bone, the idealogy, the vision with this shower at Tory HQ?
SNP death rattle.
They still managed to beat Labour before call me Dave
Tartan troll returns to his vomit and eats it.
Why don’t you stick your weak as piss trolling up you arse with that enormous dildo you are clearly sitting on fartlicker?
We wondered how you spent your evenings Lakelands.
Weak weak stuff from a vapid lightweight
Did they beat Nu-Liebour in an election ? Yes
Are you spluttering and flailing about because you are full of crap and everyone knows it ? Yes
I want a fiscally prudent government that balances the books and invests in the nation. I want a government that protects our security without criminalising the people. I want a government that protects the sick and the vulnerable by motivating the idlers and the workshy. I want a government that sets national standards by personal example. I want a government that encourages freedom with responsibility.
Is that too much to ask?
Probably.
At present, yes.
Way too much.
Sorry but gordon is absolutely fixated on the the Me Me Me Model of Government!!!
G’dnight Nell.
Mr Nell needs his cocoa.
Well in that case, can i have my money back?
Breaking news Labour to create 1,300 jobs in manchester at ?
wait for it
“The Office Of National Statistics !
WOW another 1,300 useless nojob’s for paper carriers pen pushers and button pushers well done labour !
Office of National Socialists
If you get rid of all labours Non Job theres probably 10,000,000 on the dole !
If you get rid of all labour’s Non Jobs you get rid of labour.
No, no, no!
In an effort to show that he will cut back on public spending, Our Glorious and Beloved Leader says that it will be SAVE 1300 jobs.
The work will all be done by the White Heat of Technology – a computer!
He told us that Himself – so it must be true.
ALL HAIL TO OUR BELOVED LEADER
Just watched the daily politics on bbci.
What a fu@%n knob that bloke out of Richard & Judy is.
Would that be Richard or Julie ?
Lovely to have you on the show. Tell me, how did it feel when you learnt that your family had been burnt to death in a horrific suicide pact after finding out from the tabloids about the gay affair with an MP ?
Over to Ainsley in the kitchen who’s got a new take on barbecue spare rib.
Judy. Your tits are showing. Great TV.
At least you only went through the high lights of ten years of classic triviallising TV
Apologies if already posted
Prime Minister Gordon Brown has agreed to an hour-long TV interview with presenter Piers Morgan
one labour supporter meets another labour supporter
Fucking Riveting !
shoud be like turning the telly off and watching the fire go out !
LOL
Brown and Morgan:Forces Favourites.
Both forces pin up’s !
On every dart board
We’ll get a tearfully tremulous interview with Martin Bashir, post election:
“There were three of us in this cluster fuck…” (Mandy Bliar & Moi) pause while Mc2@ blinks his one eye remembering the pain “it got a bit crowded…” brave mini gurn.
countryside = the killing of Piers Morgan
Piers Morgan = Odius man.
Too late for todays PMQs
Gordon Brown demanded immediate and deep cuts to military spending only six months after the invasion of Iraq, a letter seen by The Times reveals.
Then the Chancellor, Mr Brown wrote to Tony Blair on September 26, 2003, forbidding the Ministry of Defence from switching resources to the front line. His guillotine forced defence chiefs to slash £800 million from their budgets, including future spending on helicopters, which they claim is hampering operations in Afghanistan. A bitter dispute over Mr Brown’s record on defence funding overshadowed yesterday’s launch of government proposals on the future of the military.
Lets hope Chilcot reads it
It’s quite apparent that Fraser Nelson is a Nu-Liebour fifth columnist trying to weaken the conservatives from within.
Don’t fall for his mendacious treachery.
Cameron is well on his way to an easy victory.
I’m not one to swear generally but ChristAllFuckingMighty.
The latest Labour MotherFucking wheeze is to extend the scrappage scheme by, tra-la-la-la-la, 1 month, to the 31st March 2010.
Why? Because they’re scared shitless about the next quarterly GDP statistic and there is nothing that they won’t do, no low to which they won’t stoop, to try to jip the figures. What a bunch of total cretins.
I don’t usually post either, but this REALLY pisses me off. IT’S OUR FUCKING MONEY YOU Hunts!
Guido – you really should blog on this. It’s beyond contemptible.
“I don’t usually post either,”
That’s right up there with “I’m not a supporter of Gordon Brown but,”
I don’t usually stare
The british immigration council charity
campaigns for FAILED assylum seekers and ILLEGAL immigrants to receive state benefits and be given the right to work ! and is calling for the government to spend an EXTRA 4 BILLION on INCREASED BENEFITS for assylum seekers and job seekers !
FFS check out who funds this “charity”
The borders and Immigration agency £12,881,000
Leeds city council £221,000
Barnsley city council£175,000
Norfolk county council £138,000
Department of health £50,000
National Lottery £163,000(a real good cause)
The one that gets me is Boarders and Immigration who are supposed to keep them out and protect our boarders and remove them when they have FAILED actually pay them to stay
Talk about paying the lunatics to run the Assylum ? Britain under Labour ?
well, that’s one for the cuts and pronto
And there are plenty more like them.
eg Law centre for immigrants with two partners on 242k salaries based in Greenwich SE London. All funded by public money.
this one charity gets about £20,000,000 per year from looney left organisations
how many more are there and what salerys do they pay out ?
They rig a few polls and panic sets in. Truth be told, not having policies that might scare the horses is normal at this stage. Even Thatcher’sales pitch was very general at the start. Definition comes later, as the pudding was eaten.
But Fraser’s bound to be good, regardless.
Him with the gangrene gonads Piers Morgan is sucking the Prime Ministers cock then interviewing him on the sheeple channel. Poor Simon Cowell has a throat infection brought on by sucking Morgans septic cock. Cowell missed a ahem talent audition. Katie Price married thick as brick Alex Reid cashing in on his popularity. Pete don’t give a shit.
Thats all from Turd TV news. To keep up with all the latest switch over to the turd channel where you can watch Coleen Nolan skiting on shite and Gardiner giving her a beamer for it.
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I thought Guido believed in free speech and truth. Baah
Let’s all relax and enjoy this embarrassing video of a banker being caught looking at porn live on TV:
Banker caught out @ Yahoo! Video
I love to watch my youth movement marching up and down and up and down and up and down and up and down annn..
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Go to bed TaT you spastic Martin Webster Lover !
You posted the the Dick Sniffin comment and then accused someone else of posting it.
Very strange behaviour. Seek help.
OT but more climate bollocks from the BBC and MetO in one of their Magazine articles, ‘Why was it cold in the UK, but not across the world?’
“Looking over the data for January in the southern hemisphere, Dr Methven says only South Africa comes out looking unusually hot. The El Nino effect is not a particularly dramatic one this year, he suggests.”
Err well… it would be hot in January in SA… it’s their summer.
Does that mean they ignored the Northern hemisphere because the weather there didn’t fit the BBC’s agenda ? Wouldn’t surprise me.
And Australia had a record breaking heatwave. Was that weather, or climate?
We have also had enough of having our lives micromanaged. We are tending to get more of the same in this too. Labour have got away with it and the Conservatives are taking it for granted they can continue. Enough of this social manipulation. expat health insurance
A 1hour interview with piers morgan ?? on valentines day ?? at primetime .
I just hope aljabeeba , has paralell OU program on maths with mechanics and gets Uks best ever viewing figures .
Going on times article I broadly see what Fraser is pointing at , although lecture was perhaps better .Where I disagree is on his view of globalisation as i dont think its financial implications are understood , in that some countires economies are different . some are run well some not so well causing international finance instabilities . Even bonds become meaningless in high debt situations beyond a countires ecnomic capacity .
Caesars wife…you really should stick to the dustcart..have you read what you wrote…very profound…sounds as if you should re do english and economics primary school sats…………quote;
‘Where I disagree is on his view of globalisation as i dont think its financial implications are understood , in that some countires economies are different . some are run well some not so well causing international finance instabilities . Even bonds become meaningless in high debt situations beyond a countires ecnomic capacity’
“Gordon Brown demanded immediate and deep cuts to military spending only six months after the invasion of Iraq, a letter seen by The Times reveals.
Then the Chancellor, Mr Brown wrote to Tony Blair on September 26, 2003, forbidding the Ministry of Defence from switching resources to the front line. His guillotine forced defence chiefs to slash £800 million from their budgets, including future spending on helicopters, which they claim is hampering operations in Afghanistan. ”
Hows it go again………GOTCHA!! lying little jock shit weasel.
ha ha ha – Gotcha again, you lying little fucker!
No wonder you don’t want to call an election, but don’t worry, the people will have their say – and boy will we have our say!!
Fink is thick.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8497038.stm
piersmorgan is to interview gordon on ITV on Valentine’s Day.
What an absolutely ‘inspired’ piece of ‘journalism’! I rather fancy Adam Crozier has his work cut out to turn around this rubbish channel.
Would that be the same “Piersmorgan” the best friend of Sarah Brown and her husband Gordon who writes so syncophantically about them in his column in the Live Magazine for the Mail on Sunday most weeks by any chance ?
Says everything doesn’t it? They say you can judge a man by his friends.
Another balanced piece from the broadcasting world ahead of the election being called and impartiality rules apply. More stupid smiles but not a world of contrition or apology for the crap he has inflicted on the country, gold, pensions, recession boom and bust, debt, taxes, laws, terror, war, cctv……..somehow I think I will be out that night!!
This bloke in the Cayman Islands, tells me its his Dad, who we owe umpteen miilion quid a day since the birth of Christ to. He says he was in a sitcom in the 70′s, but he’s now living in a doss house in Westminter, and is not only subject to UK tax, but is about to kick the bucket. So all we have to do is impose 99.999999% inheritence tax on extremely rich tossers, and we not only wipe out all UK Debt, but turn an exceedingly large negative number into an extremely large positive one.
Just thought I’d let you Tory tossers know, cos I think Gordon may have sussed it.
He says he’s not bothered about inheriting it as he’s well supplied with young ladies to wipe his bum and supply him with coke, till he too meets his spirit in the sky.
The reason the scrappage scheme has been extended is that there is a whole raft of second tier automotive component manufacturers who are about to implode due decrease in orders, lack of available loan capital, inflexible labour laws etc etc
Like Labour, the automotive industry has expanded out of any real control on the extrapolation of information provided by ‘experts’
So they have inflexible labour laws in Korea?
Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it…
George Santayana
December 16, 1863, – September 26, 1952.
Seems our great leaders are too busy looting the public purse, lying, cheating and talking bollocks to learn much at all.
There are none so thick as those educated beyond their intelligence…
Reevo
September 1944 – ?.
liked his songs too
Same about the telly service though.
‘There are none so thick as those educated beyond their intelligence’
how does that theory work then Reevo ?
I rest my case!
LOL done & done
And where has the 50k, fund with no name, story gone? Lost in a sea of white wash, teflon man the second! When will all to come to an end and we rid ourselves of this odius, deluded, lying excuse of a man?
All very true.
The Tories are terrified to tell people the truth for fear they might scurry back to Labour.
Here’s a thought: try treating people with a bit of respect and tell the truth.
We’re fucked. We all know it. We all know who to blame. Now fix it. Simple.