January 29th, 2010

What’s the Big Secret Dave?

Dave had a frank chat with newspaper editors and media big-shots at Davos yesterday.  Guardian editor Alan Rusbridger was one of them.  It was on a strictly off-the-record basis.  Why?

Presumably Dave was speaking honestly in language that he didn’t think the unwashed voters should hear.  Straight-talking Dave is clearly not for public consumption.  At best it is evidence of the contempt in which the public is held by the political elite, at worst it is an admission that Cameron’s private views are different from his public positions.  Very, very worrying.


137 Comments

  1. 1
    Desperate Dan says:

    Where’s Guido gone?

    • 6
      Mr Ned says:

      Why is it a surprise that the Rosthschild puppet Cameron, is any different from the other Rothschild’s puppets?

      • 21
        Desperate Dan says:

        What’s the evidence that he’s a Rothschild puppet? If there is any, my hopes for a post election nirvana will be in tatters.

        • 39
          Road_Hog says:

          He’s just another EU puppet filling his own coffers (and his mates) at the same time, BluLabour.

        • 121
          Allan@Aberdeen says:

          I got an email from a colleague in Sakhalin and he forwarded a memo circulating in Russia which said that the Swiss Chief of Police for Davos was ‘suicided’ according to the FSB, KGB’s successor body. The memo states that Commander Markus Reinhardt had installed passive monitoring systems in and around Davos which could be used to detect any assassination plots or terrorist activity. Unfortunately for Reinhardt, his system detected nothing more than conversations between high-level members of the financial elite and these were so revelatory of serious conspiracy that Reinhardt had to be obliged to commit suicide – by two bullets in the back of the head. This is according to an FSB memo.

          • He's got a windmill, you know, so he knows what he's talking about says:

            Yup. I heard those revelations, too; the Giant Lizards are bankrolling the world.

            On a more serious note, the FSB did pick up the following points from Dave “Cast Iron Guarantee” Camoron, on the policies he’ll take up after entering Number 10:

            1. Fill his cabinet with socialist women.
            2. Smirk a bit
            3. Spend lots and lots of money, because that’s what Tony did.
            4. Grovel and beg to the EU so they might one day deign to notice him and maybe one day promote him to a position of some consequence, such as loo cleaner to the unelected Belgian Emperor.
            5. Smirk a bit more.

      • 67
        Anonymous says:

        CAUGHT AT LAST!

        http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20100129/tbs-uk-fsa-03c9bed.html

        each is 38. Gordon, Alistair, and Fondlebaum, who’s been inside trading for years

    • 7
      Mr Ned says:

      In other news, Blair lies to the Chilcot inquiry, bears shit in the woods and The Pope is catholic.

      • 25
        Animal says:

        OTR sessions are fundamentally wrong. However, Guido, do put some balance in.

        1) OTR conversations are as old as the hills.
        2) As Alan Rusbridger quite rightly points out, Charlie Whelan is hardly one to whinge when looking at his track record in quiet chats with the press.
        3) Blair was doing OTR sessions with a vengeance right through 96 and 97. Campbell threatened the bulk of the MSM through them
        4) Brown’s bedraggled little gang continue to do so – you don’t mention that. mainly because you don’t know.

        As for the content of the session, Rusbridger did put a spotlight on the alleged topics – I’ll include the word ‘alleged’ as this is the bleedin’ Grauniad for heaven’s sake – and bascially agree that this sort of thing is fundamentally wrong. Lets not forget Guido that YOU have OTR chats too, yet you hardly squeal about those being wrong, do you?

      • 114
        Paleo says:

        Thee Pope is Roman Catholic not Catholic, Mr Thicky

    • 32
      Piste says:

      Why is Dave in Davos? Dave doesn’t understand economics, must have gone for the skiing.

      • 38

        He’s with Boris. Incidentally, Boris said this morning, on Bloomberg TV, that there isn’t a fag paper between him and Osborne on economic policy. I’m pretty sure he did say paper!

      • 113
        Sceptical Steve says:

        I don’t have a lot of time for Dave, but I know he has a First Class Honours in PPE which was, the last time I bothered to check, Philosophy, Politics and Economics. On this basis, he has exactly the same qualifications as the great economic sage, Ed Balls.

        • 118
          Allan@Aberdeen says:

          And exactly what f*cking use is PPE? Where do these graduates go after Uni? Straight into the political bubble and there they learn absolutely nothing about anything worth knowing. If I’m wrong, show me some examples.

        • 128
          notnowcato says:

          I don’t think there is anything 1st class about Balls.

    • 123
      DAVE CAMERON WILL INVADE IRAN QUICKER THAN A FIVE DOLLAR WHORE WOULD SUCK HIS COCK says:

      It’s no big secret Guido, David Cameron is a useless self-serving c’unt.

      • 132
        50 Calibre says:

        They all are. It’s what they are. If they are not of that persuasion, they don’t get selected to stand in the first place.

    • 135
      ( THE ARSEHOLE SPOTTER ) says:

      Dave is panicking over the swing to B+P and UKIP, so too are Broon + Clegg.
      They saw question time when a member of the audience made the point that none of them were worth voting for they are all the same. Another person said that he didnt feel British anymore as we were swamped with immigrants to which the audience cheered.
      They have ignored the publics view over the Lisbon Treaty, Immigration, Political Correctness the stupid Human Rights shit and took the piss with expences, now voters are about to get their own back

      About time too

  2. 2
    Exclusive - Dave says something says:

    If only I had the contacts to find out what ?

    • 31
      English Liberation Front says:

      I would guess Cameron was being honest about the level of spending cuts and tax rises necessary to dig us out of McDoom’s fiscal black hole. I can understand why he wouldn’t want to frighten the voting public with the truth about that.

      But what of McDoom? If Labour (horror of horrors) were to win the next election, McDoom would be faced with forced, massive spending cuts and tax rises as well – though McRuin would probably wait until the IMF and the Ratings Agencies forced his hand, so he would have someone other than himself to blame.

      When it comes down to the wire, we need to boot out Labour and McDoom – then we can start holding Cameron to account.

      • 46
        Hamish Macbeth says:

        My guess is this too…..

        Cameron was telling them allhow much the country is in the shit….

        But does not want to panic the public, stock market – or allow those hypocrites opposite to accuse him of “talking down the economy”.

        Tough times approaching – and a double dip for the UK – but Labour wont accept their responsible for it.

      • 47
        Johnny says says:

        Gordoom Broon would see it as a vindication of his tax, borrow and spend, spend, spend policies.

        The old ‘throw enough shit and some must stick’ tactic of ‘investing’ in public services by paying management level people far too much for worsening services, distracting frontline staff with petty, potty ‘climate change’ ‘equality’ and all other manner of bullshit, issuing perverse incentives that see public services major on what brings in the most gold stars for the least effort. The gross abuse of PFI shovelling vast gobs of money into private hands. Private consultants preaching management bullshit, eco bullshit and God knows whatever else that get paid not for results but just so departments can get more gold stars for ‘training’.

        Rolls Royce was triple A rated on the day it went bust. Gordoom Broon will be too.

        So long as there was some other nation more indebted than Blighty Broon would proclaim ‘Steady as she goes, for we are not as bad as X’. And in his mind, his politics of spite, envy and lowest common denominator, it doesn’t matter how shit the UK becomes so long as there is another developed nation more of a basket case than us.

        • 78
          McDoom says:

          why doesn’t dave/ozzy/hague say

          “we might have lower debt now but debt has doubled under this government and if we donot get the deficit under control we will have passed the usa japan etc in 2 years time”

          instead broon sound bites get repeated on the bbc etc so the average listener thinks things are not too bad

          when the average listener realises what broon, blair balls and co have done to our conunrty there will be riots

          listen to the politicians and the journos, it is a matter of WHEN not IF – duh – they are not saying the truth which is there is NO CHOICE the market will not let the country borrow at the rate it is

          it is only cos there is an election looming that the markets have not already acted and when we act there will be riots, strikes etc (Ireland have acted, Greece are fucked, UK?)

          by NOT calling an election and continuing to spend broon is bleeding the country dry the fucker!

  3. 3
    king chillout says:

    ….and that’s a surprise ?

  4. 3

    Either:

    (1) – he’s been approached by members of the present cabinet ot gauge his interest in taking over as PM from Gordon or

    (2) more likely he was discussing a post licence-fee BBC.

    • 16

      (3) showing them all his windmill powered dildo

      (4) asking them not to call little Osborne names as Georgie’s mother doesn’t like it

      • 27
        The UK is becoming East Germany circa 1976 says:

        Re-assuring them all that the EU, third way social fascism, the Beeb, the Quango state and Common Purpose are safe in his hands?

      • 86
        Cyco Billy says:

        (5) he’s telling them that ‘behavioural economics’ will be applied to public sector job adverts, the Grauniad’s monopoly is finished, and that from June they will all have to pay the government if they want to carry public sector advertising.

    • 53
      Axe The Telly Tax says:

      If (2) is true (providing he also breaks up the Beeboid bastards and sells off the pieces to the highest bidder) then he gets my vote otherwise the BeeNPee have it. The money from the sell off can go to protecting NHS frontline services.

      • 109
        AC1 says:

        Haha, just throw the money away.

        The NHS is designed by a stalinist and run on those principles. You may have noticed the fall of the Iron curtain… It’s still needs to fall on the NHS.

        If you’re not a customer you’re a cost, and costs are minimised.

        What would I do with the money? Extend the cut in VAT (the worst tax from an economic growth point of view).

        • 117
          Moley says:

          The NHS does not have customers.

          The patient does not get to decide when he gets treated.

          The patient does not get to decide whether he gets treated.

          The patient does not get to decide how he gets treated.

          The patient is not entitled to any information as to the nature of his disease or the treatment options.

          The patient does not get to decide who treats him.

          The patient does not get to decide where he gets treated.

          The patient is simply an unpredictable cost to the NHS which has to be tightly controlled.

          I speak from my own bitter experience, of non existent care and callous neglect.

  5. 5
    Here's Johnny! says:

    He might have been telling them he’s going to make a million public servants unemployed. Brilliant news, but not exactly something I’d reveal to the country before the election either.

  6. 9
    concrete pump says:

    Maybe, just maybe he didn’t want Rushbridger to hear what he really thinks.

    Under the ‘call me Dave’ bollocks might be a rabid right winger, ready to jump out from beneath his disguise.

    But i doubt it.

  7. 10
    jgm2 says:

    That’s the deal at Davros. And in the the lobby.

    Indeed you yourself once commented – in answer to a direct question from myself – on these boards whether Labour MPs really believed the shit jackasses like Brown comes out with and you said ‘no’.

    So you could argue that by failing to name the Labour MPs that think Brown is talking shit and that actually do believe that Brown has fucked the economy and is an incompetent jackass you too are complicit in the medias failure to highlight the fuckwittery at large in the land.

    Just saying.

    • 13
      Mr Ned says:

      Yup! All the MP’s that say one thing in public and another in private should be exposed for the lying, hypocritical sacks of shit that they are.

      • 37
        The IMF is coming says:

        It’s their job.
        Deliver a favourable message about the unpalatable truth

        • 79
          Carry On Don't Lose Your Head (1967) says:

          So when Labour MPs talk of equality and social mobility, remember the fucking hypocrites for what they are. The man in the street can’t plan for the future effectively without timely, useful info to the state of the economy in the months and years ahead. But Labour MPs have inside info which allows them to do so for themselves. It’s insider trading of the wickedest kind. But what do you expect from a bunch of Leftist tossers?

          • jgm2 says:

            Exactly. Any normal, rational person would have expected Brown et al to have bumped up interest rates (or changed the BoE’s remit to allow them to do so) back in 2002 to knock an obvious housing boom on the head. Particularly given that this Labour government benefitted enormously from the fall-out of the 1980′s/1990′s tory housing boom-bust.

            No more boom and bust they said. Certainly not a housing bust they said. Fine. So they’ll nip the boom in the bud you might assume.

            Fuck no. They knew they were going to keep that boom going at all costs. Because they – uniquely – could keep it going. By fixing interest rates. And by allowing – nay – encouraging the FSA to turn a blind eye to self-cert mortgages and other insanities.

            Hence they were confident about buying and flipping multiple properties and building up a ‘portfolio’ on expenses. While any rational person would have pulled the pin by 2003.

            And then they have the gall to blame the banks for the economic clusterfuck. As you say – insider trading and market manipulation by the Labour government. Fuck the economy. Fuck the voters. Look at my property portfolio. What could go wrong?

            Arseholes.

            He’s got an amazing intellect you know that Gordon Brown.

          • Mr Ned says:

            You nailed it jgm2. But we are not writing here about their property portfolios, because they never fuckin even paid for them. To be accurate they are all of OUR property cos WE paid for them.

          • Tony says:

            That’s exactly right jgm2. For the last few years before the bust my colleagues and I looked in disbelief at the news paper articles that seemed every week to announce a new record house price high. We shook our heads at the high lending multiples and self assessed mortgages and told each other it couldn’t go on for much longer and that it was soon going to come crashing down. It makes me angry when these politicians and media types tell everyone that no one saw it coming when it was blindingly obvious to us, it was only a question of when and what would be the trigger.

          • Susie says:

            I remember sometime in 2005/6 lying in the bath listening to a R4 Money Box phone in. There was some woman who’d just been made redundant, split up with her ‘partner’ and wanted to remortgage the house and borrow an extra £40,000 to pay for an extension.

            “Was she going to get another job soon?”… “No well I’m pregnant actually”… “What’s your income?”… “I’m on benefits”.

            She was quite put out that the experts didn’t think it was a good idea — just one example of the craziness which prevailed and Brown wants to create again.

      • 75
        Lying liers says:

        That’s all of them then.

    • 17
      jgm2 says:

      Davros? FFS.

  8. 12
    Bliar the Liar his pants are inflammable says:

    Blairite apologist arselicker and cun’t David Aaronovitch is getting hammered on the facts by Peter Oborne on the Daily Politics. Aaronovitch is weaseling furiously on Iraq.

  9. 14

    He’s asking for the photos back.

  10. 18
    pete-s says:

    I expect he had got the heads up that the ratings agencies are just about to down grade our banks, (Happened last night). Spreading despair and despondency about the shit state of our economy is political dynamite for McDoom.

  11. 19
    george says:

    Everything about Cameron is very worrying.

  12. 20
    George W Osborne says:

    Look, it’s not a bit of good asking me what Shallow Dave really thinks. He did try to explain it once but I’m afraid I’m a bit of a dunce at all that theory stuff.

  13. 23
    Dave the Nepotistic Twit Who Has Never Done a Proper Day's Work in His Life says:

    You can trust me, Guido.

    You know you can.

  14. 24
  15. 26
    John says:

    Worrying that Cameron is talking to newspaper editors?
    The only one worrying is Gordon Brown, whose paranoia index must have hit the roof.

  16. 28
    Gordon ( SoldGoldAtThe ) BottomBrown says:

    Off the record ???? Huh !! I’m off my rocker !

  17. 29
    LexyBabe says:

    Oh for f-cks sake Guido, nothing to worry about – there are just more people wandering around Tesco in their nightgear than there are with one brain cell so you just have to pander to the masses. Once in then do what you want – its called democracy.

  18. 30
    JJ says:

    Only Thatcher can save us now. The tories are a limp bunch now.

  19. 33
    Anonymous says:

    Great idea. make a million public servants redundant. After all it’s cheaper to pay them benefits rather than a salary.

    • 41
      jgm2 says:

      Much cheaper.

      • 45
        Loretto Darling says:

        and no gold-plated, index-linked, guaranteed pension either.

        • 63
          jgm2 says:

          Already factored in to my ‘much cheaper’.

          PLUS while they’re not wandering around with clip-boards desperately trying to justify their futile, pontless existence they’re not getting in the way of some poor bugger who has got a job that needs doing. They are but sand in the gears of productivity – as evidenced by the fact that NHS productivity has gone down since 1997.

          PLUS freed of the pointlessness of a pointless job they might actuall aspire to doing some good in the world. Open a dry-cleaners or something. I don’t know. Anything has to be better than getting in the fucking way. No wonder they’re all permanently off with ‘stress’. Who wouldn’t be with a pointless, meaningless existence like that?

          • Box-ticking, form filling, clipboard carrying, clock watching jobsworth says:

            GANGWAY !!! Busy,busy,busy !!!

  20. 34
    Brown's Buggered Britain says:

    Is this really THAT significant when there is such a nasty Brown mess to be cleared up?

  21. 35
    Anonymous says:

    Unfortunately there are those out to get him and labour can even try and pull big holes in something as good as recognising marriage in the tax system.

    Until the election, I’ve no problems with him having to santise what he says – afterwards he needs to give it to us straight, and all we will have to do then is put up with the bitter lefties that lost harping on about nothing everytime something happens like we have with the labour/green lot at the london assembly.

    • 64
      Thatcher-right says:

      Correct. If your opponents only strategy is to distort and misrepresent anything you say there is a significant incentive not to say anything at all.
      He knows what’s got to happen. We know he knows what’s got to happen and he knows we know he knows…
      But he can’t say it.
      The alternative to keeping stumm is the one practised by the current regime – just lie.

  22. 36
    jgm2 says:

    The big story is…. why isn’t Gordon there?

    Wasn’t he invited? Something more important to do?

    All those banks, financiers and captains of industry thought they’d just blunder through the whole thing without the man who ‘saved the world’?

    It’s very unlike Brown to miss a grand-standing phto opportunity like this. Surely he can’t already have photograohs of himself shaking hands with all these people?

    A golden opportunity to stand at a lecturn afterwards and give a press conference about the ‘agreements’ he’d brokered and the ‘consensus’ he’d engendered. All his idea of course. Doesn’t like to boast. Extremely private and modest individual..

    It’s not like him at all.

  23. 40
    Greychatter says:

    I don’t blame David Cameron for keeping things Schtum – the crap and distorted facts that journalists at times write give Gordon and all the Labour elite hours of BBC air time.

    The Labour government have been a disaster for Britain since they stopped using Tory ideas and had to think for themselves.

  24. 44
    Puppet Dave says:

    Dave was getting his marching orders from the chosen people, either that or marching powder. Was Will Straw there?

  25. 48
    Postal Votes says:

    Let’s hope Dave asked the editors to commission some proper research journalism into postal votes, since postal votes increase the probability that Dave will not be holding that many Downing Str 10 press conferences!

    • 54
      Postal Votes says:

      @%#^!&*O!*&#&^&^&*(!@##()!##!!

      My name above should have been Postal Vote, not the plural

      Ah well, it’s only human to make spelling mistakes. This morning I saw a lot of protesters around the chilli enquiry holding up signs with “Bliar” on them. Or did I miss something?

  26. 49
    Anonymous says:

    DAVID CAMERON’S BIG SECRET..

    I AM GOING TO TAKE BRITAIN INTO AN ILLEGAL WAR WITH IRAN

    Plus ca change…

  27. 50
    Gordon Brown says:

    Blair, mad Huhne or what!?

    • 62
      B£IAR: BOMBER OF BELGRADE,BAGHDAD & BAGRAM says:

      We stand shoulder-to-shoulder in that respect, Gormless.

  28. 51
    jgm2 says:

    OT

    It’s that fucking ‘intellect’ again.

    From ‘Seen Elsewhere’ Jim Murphy: Brown is rubbish…

    I am not saying David Cameron is a stupid man, far from it, but in a contest of intellect, in a contest of substance and of PR then Gordon wins two out of three.

    Brown? Intellect? Substance? [cue substance abuse gags].

    What the fuck is he talking about? What kind of a thick c*nt ran up a massive structural deficit while piggy-backing on a massive house-price boom?

    And who did that having just witnessed exactly the same thing (under the Tories) in the 1980′s?

    What fucking intellect? So he did that deliberately without any thought for the consequences? Or is this economic clusterfuck what he’d planned from the beginning what with his massive intellect and all?

    Intellect? I’ve shit more intellect.

    • 59
      The IMF is coming says:

      Jim Murphy
      Archetypal Weegie. Enough said

    • 84
      Carry On Don't Lose Your Head (1967) says:

      Brown is the archetype of an over-educated mummy’s boy who’s grown up to believe his parents’ faux praise. PhD in the Labour Party? LMFAO that makes him a tosser not an scholar!

    • 97
      Mr Ned says:

      Jim Murphy hasn’t got the intellect to pick up a fucking dictionary and look up what the word intellect fucking means.

      Brown is to intellect what SuBo is to erotic entertainment.

  29. 52
    The IMF is coming says:

    ‘But, all in all, I think Cameron came out of his audition with the world’s press in pretty good shape.’

    http://blogs.ft.com/rachmanblog/2010/01/snowed-under-with-david-cameron/#comments

  30. 55
    Cherie booth says:

    Blair? Just hang the fucker. Jesus, what a whining Huhne. And turns out the fucker prefers fucking men. Next client.

  31. 60
    The Hon. Loretto Fettes says:

    Nonsense conjecture from Guido. Its even slightly annoying when he does this against Labour as there are so many valid attacks that can be made on them.
    This is a totally spurious attack on Dave by Guido. Made worse by Guido using the Guardian as a source. Yuck!

    • 89
      bird with small brain says:

      Hear hear, or is it here here, or even hair hair… I think Guido’s just jealous he wasn’t invited.

  32. 61
    Richard Manns says:

    How is this news?

    Oh my God, the next PM might be planning things that would knock his poll ratings, were they to be publicly known.

    Shock, horror.

    Next up in surprising revelations: the government’s going to piss a lot of people off in getting this country back on track after May, but doesn’t want to say precisely who until after the election.

  33. 66
    Will the North Rise up says:

    As far as the vast majority of the population are concerned,the day after
    the general election will be no different than the day before.
    Continuity of decline depends on 50.01% of the electorate voting in which
    case Party of Westminster shouts out “Mandate”

    • 80
      Anonymous says:

      50% voting? You are joking. 70% won’t vote and who can blame them? What is there to vote for? These lying, cheating hounds are worthless.

      • 88
        Lying liers says:

        You can bet come Election Day, however low the turnout the winning faction will be strutting around the day after thinking they’ve been given a blank cheque from the people of this country to do want ever the fuck they want.

      • 100
        Mr Ned says:

        If those 70% voted, then they could sack the whole lab-lib-con dictatorship in one go!

  34. 69
    alex kendall says:

    It seems the Tory Part has lost its way on planning and housing Localism was a lacklustre hunting ground for grant shapps at RICS, But poor Bob Neal was skinned On Wednesday in Birmingham!!! Sitting in a room of 60 planners his rhetoric failed to meet expectations as shadow Planning Minister as one planner put it “my god no way….” There is also the question why so many developers have become so alienated by the Party, has Birmingham 2008 got some underlying cause????

  35. 72
    Carry On Don't Lose Your Head (1967) says:

    Don’t forget the bankers have been meeting in secret as well.

    Good to see the BBC’s Peston reporting that at least one banker told him the banks were a state sanctioned oligopoly who fucked their customers (ie all of us) because there wasn’t enough competition in the banking industry. John Redwood has blogged a similar opinion here: http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2010/01/28/

    Personally, I think Cameron is privately admitting the UK is fucked within months unless the Conservatives win the next election and begin cuts of around 30% to the public sector immediately.

    It’s going to be a hell of a ride.

    • 74
      Anonymous says:

      30%? I suspect that number is not far from the truth. And how many job will go? Hold on tight because those who will be thrown to the wolves might just wake up this time. Thatcher did it and Cameron will never be allowed to get away with it. Nevertheless, he’ll try. After all, who gives a monkey’s if you are a millionaire from Eton?

      Civil disobedience beckons, I suspect.

      • 104
        Mr Ned says:

        The labour government has been gearing up to militarise the police so they can work with the army to ensure their “order” and the plastic pretend police and traffic wardens are to take over from the police.

        They are years ahead of you in planning for this. Do you really want to give them exactly what they want?

        Better to peacefully and lawfully withdraw ALL consent from them. They are fucked if we do that and there is NOTHING that they can do to stop it.

      • 108
        Colonel Mustard says:

        Martial law, more like.

    • 130
      Busted Nokia says:

      While I agree with the sentiment, how far do you trust Cameron to keep his word?

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1247209/Outrage-Cameron-backtracks-vow-slash-state-spending.html

  36. 73
    Anonymous says:

    Can’t have the truth now can we? Unemployment to rise, job losses, more areas and lives condemned for ever. Why a Tory victory would be even worse than a Labour one–and the latter have been disastrous too.

    • 82
      Lying liers says:

      Whoever wins, there’s going to be serious unrest in this country.

      Decades of the political classes taking this country down a dead end road while sticking two fingers up at the rest of us are going to come back and bit their arses.

      • 91
        jgm2 says:

        A Tory victory will be worse. Not because of the economic decisions they are already pre-destined by Brown’s economic scorched earth to have to take.

        But because the socialists have always been much keener on organising violent mass demonstration. Bob Crow will be getting a fucking hard-on already. dreaming about the violence he’s going to bring to the streets. Millions of his fucking ‘members’ all shrieking about how indespensible they all are compared to the private sector.

        Brown has set Cameron and the UK up for the biggest riots and public disorder since the last time the socialists were organising violence and public disorder. Probably much bigger in fact.

        It is pure evil what they are up to.

        No other word for it.

        • 99
          Lying liers says:

          Yes you’re right, all egged on by the likes of the BBC, labour councils, student organisations, unions etc….

          When it comes to organising mob violence, you got to hand it to socialists, they’re masters at it.

        • 103
          jgm2 says:

          Right on cue…

          http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/8485645.stm

          The employee added: “My pay will be cut by £7,000 and that is not untypical speaking to other people.

          “At the time when bankers are continuing to get huge bonuses public sector workers are again suffering.

          Now, if the public sector had been taking the hit back in 2008 and 2009 at the same time as everybody else then they wouldn’t be able to make that complaint as hundreds of thousands of bankers, bakers and candlestickmakers got their P45. The Labour government could have pointed out that at least they still have their fucking jobs.

          But now Labour (or more specifically – the Tories) won’t be able to make that point. Because the recession is officially over. Hurrah. We’ve survived. What recession? I still have my council job. In fact I got a payrise last year.

          This mentality will be exploited to the full by the surviving Labour arseholes after the election. Ably assisted by The Mirror and Bob-fucking-Crow and the rest of ‘em.

          I can see it coming a mile off. The entire country and economy has been set up like a giant bonfire for the last two years of not making any tough choices by that bastard Brown.

          Pure evil.

          He’s got a terrific intellect you know that Gordon Brown.

  37. 83
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    Gosh, a politician who holds the public in contempt or has private views that are different from his public positions? Whoever would have thought it?

    Next you’ll be telling me that the Pope is Catholic!

  38. 85
    jo public says:

    georgy porgy bildberger boy and dave you aint seen nothing yet and the pre media release wag the dog anticts as all that have gone before them
    be ready for anything people………………………..

  39. 90
    albacore says:

    The Lib/Lab/Cons have so completely buggered-up a system that was not broken that, it seems to me, none of our lords and masters wishes any longer to win an imminent, conventional General Election.
    They’re not even going through the motions.
    How many other readers have been messed around by HM Revenue & Customs, just before that election? I’ve already paid more income tax than will be due for this financial year – and they know it. Still, despite letters and phone calls, they’ll keep on whacking me for more on an emergency code until, at the earliest, April.
    “Warning to taxpayers to check tax codes”
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8478271.stm

    • 98
      DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

      Something I’ve noticed is that pretty much everyone at my company has been issued with incorrect tax codes because HMRC has decided that our staff’s subscriptions to appropriate professional associations (paid for by the company) are taxable perks and should be taxed, even though it’s stated quite clearly on the P11D that they are for legitimate business purposes. I wonder whether this is a cock-up or whether it’s HMRC trying to squeeze a few extra quid out of people and hoping they’ll get away with it.

      • 107
        Mr Ned says:

        They are trying it on on the offchance that people will not notice. It is a sneaky form of theft.

  40. 92
    Rusbridger's correction says:

    Did you guys not notice the correction from Alan Rusbridger, buried in the ‘comments’, where he admitted that Cameron had actually wanted the discussion ‘on the record’, but the Davos organisers weren’t happy with that?

    Maybe they didn’t want to create a precedent that background briefings at Davos should be ‘on the record’?

  41. 93
    Trev says:

    Cobblers – looking at the way you misrepresent this – its no wonder politicians are happier off the record.

    You know damn well that political and lazy media hacks and dopy bloggers are always happy to misrepresent frank opinion.

    The whole point of the Lobby for years was to allow frank opinion to be given without misrepresentation.

  42. 95
    Joanna says:

    He was probably telling them what he’ll do in the first two weeks after he’s elected.
    No doubt they have a master plan that can be dropped into place at a moment’s notice.
    Obviously he can’t reveal his plans now as they might affect people’s voting intentions adversely.

  43. 102
    E Welshman says:

    Could be that he has some policy ideas that he doesn’t want Bottler to pinch.

  44. 105
    AC1 says:

    What’s his secret?
    He’s one of the rent-seeking classes, not one of the workers.

    • 126
      Slow Learner says:

      …’by hand or brain’ Crafty old Charlie Marks made sure that the term ‘proletariat’ was as hard to pin down as an electron within the Standard Model. Anybody inconvenient could be arbitrarily made an enemy of the people.

      Cameron shows more evidence of using his brain than the leader of the People’s Party.

  45. 111
    REEVO says:

    I can never understand why people vote themselves into an unknown, is it some form of imbecilic gambling addiction that drives them to it? Surely they cannot believe tinkering telly or newspapers, are they that naive?

    How can voters trust their future to a person/party they don’t know let alone a process they don’t fully understand, when the evidence of many decades clearly shows that all politicians are at best down right dishonest?

    Who are these voters where have they been? like some small child in a toy shop pound coin clutched tightly in hand fearing the world might end if they don’t spend it, yet the realisation their pound hasn’t bought them what they really wanted so are in turn hopelessly dissatisfied with their purchase.

    I am also reminded of the owner of a newly purchased property who after a few weeks complains about the noise from the airport next door.

    Its not the politician its the voter thats to blame, why consent to some idiot ruining your life and telling you how its going to be, why?

  46. 133
    Anon says:

    Why should anyone be surprised that Blair(2) is just like Blair(1)?
    Like Blair dave should have gone into acting.The Dracule fangs appearing on posters all over England cannot be helping “Camerons Conservatives”.

  47. 134
    Seymour says:

    The Secret People by G. K. Chesterton

    Smile at us, pay us, pass us; but do not quite forget;
    For we are the people of England, that never have spoken yet.

    There is many a fat farmer that drinks less cheerfully,
    There is many a free French peasant who is richer and sadder than we.
    There are no folk in the whole world so helpless or so wise.
    There is hunger in our bellies, there is laughter in our eyes;
    You laugh at us and love us, both mugs and eyes are wet:

    Only you do not know us.
    For we have not spoken yet.
    The fine French kings came over in a flutter of flags and dames.
    We liked their smiles and battles, but we never could say their names.

    The blood ran red to Bosworth and the high French lords went down;
    There was naught but a naked people under a naked crown.

    And the eyes of the King’s Servants turned terribly every way,
    And the gold of the King’s Servants rose higher every day.

    They burnt the homes of the shaven men, that had been quaint and kind,
    Till there was no bed in a monk’s house, nor food that man could find.

    The inns of God where no man paid, that were the wall of the weak.
    The King’s Servants ate them all. And still we did not speak.

    And the face of the King’s Servants grew greater than the King:
    He tricked them, and they trapped him, and stood round him in a ring.

    The new grave lords closed round him, that had eaten the abbey’s fruits,
    And the men of the new religion, with their bibles in their boots,
    We saw their shoulders moving, to menace or discuss,
    And some were pure and some were vile; but none took heed of us.

    We saw the King as they killed him, and his face was proud and pale;
    And a few men talked of freedom, while England talked of ale.

    A war that we understood not came over the world and woke
    Americans, Frenchmen, Irish; but we knew not the things they spoke.

    They talked about rights and nature and peace and the people’s reign:
    And the squires, our masters, bade us fight; and scorned us never again.

    Weak if we be for ever, could none condemn us then;
    Men called us serfs and drudges; men knew that we were men.

    In foam and flame at Trafalgar, on Albuera plains,
    We did and died like lions, to keep ourselves in chains,
    We lay in living ruins; firing and fearing not
    The strange fierce face of the Frenchmen who knew for what they fought,
    And the man who seemed to be more than a man we strained against and broke;

    And we broke our own rights with him.
    And still we never spoke.

    Our patch of glory ended; we never heard guns again.
    But the squire seemed struck in the saddle; he was foolish, as if in pain,
    He leaned on a staggering lawyer, he clutched a cringing Jew,
    He was stricken; it may be, after all, he was stricken at Waterloo.

    Or perhaps the shades of the shaven men, whose spoil is in his house,
    Come back in shining shapes at last to spoil his last carouse:

    We only know the last sad squires rode slowly towards the sea,
    And a new people takes the land: and still it is not we.

    They have given us into the hand of new unhappy lords,
    Lords without anger or honour, who dare not carry their swords.

    They fight by shuffling papers; they have bright dead alien eyes;
    They look at our labour and laughter as a tired man looks at flies.

    And the load of their loveless pity is worse than the ancient wrongs,
    Their doors are shut in the evening; and they know no songs.

    We hear men speaking for us of new laws strong and sweet,
    Yet is there no man speaketh as we speak in the street.

    It may be we shall rise the last as Frenchmen rose the first,
    Our wrath come after Russia’s wrath and our wrath be the worst.

    It may be we are meant to mark with our riot and our rest
    God’s scorn for all men governing.
    It may be beer is best.

    But we are the people of England; and we have not spoken yet.
    Smile at us, pay us, pass us.
    But do not quite forget.

  48. 136
    Cobblers says:

    Seymour…is that supposed to have some relevance or were u just bored and wanted to practice copying and pasting. Can we have something to colour in next please ?

  49. 137
    duster says:

    Expect cameron was getting to meet quite a few shifters and shakers his team will be dealing with later in the year…good motive and it beats London for a change.



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