January 10th, 2010

Guido’s Plan to Save the Indy (Part II)

There is a lot of speculation, most of it horrified, that Rod Liddle is being lined up to take over the editorship of the Indy by  Lebedev.  Back in May last year Guido advanced two ideas to save the Indy.  The first was abandon the loss making print edition and go all digital.  The second was to seize the

Digital Indyglaring broadsheet market positioning gap … by shifting from an editorial stance that reluctantly backs the LibDems towards enthusiastically backing Cameron’s liberal conservativism. With the Telegraph floundering editorially the Indy is never going to capture the ground held by the Guardianistas. The Times is probably going to row in behind Cameron with a heavy dose of skepticism from Murdoch. The Indy should therefore enthusiastically embrace the socially liberal Notting Hill Cameroons, in all their weed tolerating, groovy green glory. Become the modernised news brand that Cameroons are not embarrassed to be supported by…

Rod Liddle is not the man to do that Mr Lebedev. If you are looking for an editor to move the Indy from the Guardian dominated liberal-left space to the market opportunity on the liberal-right, there is one perfect candidate available.  The Indy could become the Cameroon’s house-paper with the inside track on the next government if the editor was Matthew d’Ancona.  Go for it…


437 Comments

  1. 1
    Dack Blog says:

    How about one that’s ‘Independent’?

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    • 17
      Bob Ainsworth's wig says:

      Fat chance.

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      • 302
        Inpendent minded blogging says:

        don’t be stupid

        you’d need to be an independent minded blogger who understands what the word means to want a healthy unpartisan press that wasn’t toadying up to the government in waiting

        those who want another tame mouthpiece for Cameron are lickspittle on-message toryboy drones, Andy Coulson and Guido

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        • 352
          windowlicker says:

          Shut the fuck up you self-righeous mongs.

          Brown and Cameron would fuck, eat, and enslave YOUR children for the rest of their lives for another evening on a Yacht in the south pacific.

          They do not have your best interests at heart or any sympathy for you or your troubles.

          So fuck them and fuck their dead kids. They are bilderbergers after all. Concerned about overpopulation.

          Grow the fuck up. People die. Most people will never live because of these NWO Hoons.

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          • tinfoil hat needed says:

            complete nutter

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          • Pedant Gurkha says:

            You horrible, offensive, idiot.

            grow up

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          • Wayne Trumpette says:

            does anyone actually care what happens to the INDY?

            Bagoshite

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          • rick says:

            A harsh truth, coulourfully put, windowlicker. Many folks will instinctively be repelled by what you say – tin foil hat, etc. There is an old saying: a beautiful lie is often more acceptable than the ugly truth.

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          • no taxation without representation says:

            “this is going way too far”

            Tell that to the parents of the thousands of kids he helped to kill and cripple by voting for illegal wars that the public clearly did not want, but the globalist bilderbergers and their industrial military complex goons couldn’t wait for!

            and let’s not forget how they love to terrorise you and your kids with lies about weapons of mass destruction all based on lies, and global warming again based on lies all centered around greed – death for greed at any cost is their motto.

            Kinda puts it into perspective eh!

            Now stick your head back up your arse, and mumble some shit about tin hats, you see the only people who don’t understand that the EU and the bilderberger elite now run this country are the oddballs, the deliberately ignorant, the new tin foil hat crew.

            How many times does gordon have to shout NWO for the penny to drop, how much more propaganda on climate change hoax do your eco fascist kids have to come home with?

            how many more rules do the unelected dictatorial totalitarians in the EUSSR (just a trade agreement right?) have to make before you get it?

            perhaps you do get it and are just another tory bilderberg mong sent out to confuse the sheep with slurs and peer pressure nonsense.

            sorry sonny but the game is up, you’ve been rumbled, or have you not noticed the falling turnouts at elections?

            the dying media?

            The people were not stupid, just ignorant and as they educated themselfs they realised voting for the lib lab con trick NWO pigs would change nothing so they stay at home.

            It won’t last.

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          • savage nation banned in the uk by labour says:

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          • bigger tinfoil hat needed says:

            another complete nutter

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    • 78
      Anonymous says:

      Wasn’t/isn’t d’Ancona’a wife a senior adviser to one of the Miliblands? If those are indicative of Cameron’s wishy washy leanings then the whey faced wanker from Witney can get fucked!

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      • 95

        No, I don’t think so. Ancona is the one that does the impressions.

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          who wants to pay for propaganda rags? says:

          Rod Liddle is actually pretty good, about the only rag writer that lets slip with the truth every now and then.

          As for saving the paper – it’s pretty bloody basic Guido – give the people the truth rather than the NWO propaganda most of these fake media chanels pump out, call the bastards and traitors to account when they sell the people out, rather than doing another piece about globallshit warming.

          I’m sick of hearing one sided propaganda reports with a NWO conclusion on every page telling us what to think and constantly trying to set the agenda for their masters.

          now let’s hear it direct from the NWO, by Mr bilderberger himself –
          rocketseller

          “We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.” David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.

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          • My Other Cars Not A Prius Either! says:

            But surely even this twat expects competition,no need to worry you may be on the money with your forecast but God blessed mankind with comonsense,the era of the nodding dog voter is over,even in wales they now know that socialism is poverty for all.

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    • 119
      Rosebud ! says:

      Save some trees, let the paper fold. (no pun intended).

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      • 225
        Budgie says:

        The problem is all 3 main parties support AGW and the EU, yet the public are against both. The “Independent”, as one of the numerous organs of the chatterati, either has to change tack to oppose AGW and the EU, or it continues supporting them and ends up with no customers. Simples.

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    • 232
      Andreas Whittam-Smith says:

      It is. are you?

      It was.

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  2. 2
    nick says:

    More interesting going forward is how to deal with the wonks in the guardian.

    I suggest a freeze on advertising any government job on taking office.

    Then all government jobs have to be placed on a website, and anyone can mash or reuse the data for free.

    So if the Guardian want to carry on pushing out government jobs, they can, but they don’t get paid for it.

    Lots of savings to be had

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      Gordon's favourite Butt Plug says:

      Harsh but fair.

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      • 179
        Lightweight Cast Iron says:

        A plan with no drawbacks

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        • 313
          the fettes/eton axis says:

          Except that it would be held by the courts to be “malfeasance in public office” since the grauniad is the main list for some forms of public sector jobs. Since this would obviously be taking political action at a cost to the public any minister doing so would be liable to be banged up. Hey – it sounds like a great idea!

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      • 317
        the fettes/eton axis says:

        Given that Captain Darling is Gordons favourite butt plug are you expressing your support for he of the animatronic eyebrows?

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    • 48
      Fees Office Clerk says:

      I like it :)

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    • 58
      Johnny says says:

      How about a freeze on Governmetn advertising full stop. It has got out of hand – Ministers ratchet up spending on ‘good news’

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      • 89
        Rexel 56 says:

        Don’t be so grumpy….. government advertising clearly works.

        Only last weekend I saw an advert that urged me to drive five miles fewer every week in the interest of saving the polar bears, or the Maldives or something.

        Guess what, I haven’t been out in the car since Tuesday – it really works!!

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      • 110
        English Liberation Front says:

        Interesting.

        “Figures collated by Nielsen, an organisation that monitors advertising budgets, shows the government spent £145m in 2006, rising to £160m in 2007 and £193m in 2008. In 1997, when Labour first came to power, spending was just £45m.”

        That shows that under Brown (who promised an end to spin) the propaganda budget rose by 33% and since Labour came to power by 329%, a rate of about +25% per year. Also behind the “advertising” (propaganda) no doubt there was a concomitant rise in the number of wonks churning it out and a huge cost associated with that.

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          Rosebud on the web says:

          And if anyone has actually used the website that New Labour’s latest budget-busting TV propaganda campaign extols ( direct.gov.uk ), then they will find out the website is a large piece of sh1t, typical of public sector waste.

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          • Uncle Si says:

            Someone has to employ all those ‘A’ level Media students, education education education etc etc etc “Things could only get better” circa 1997…………

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          • the fettes/eton axis says:

            As long as its not me that has to employ them its ok….

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          • AC1 says:

            > As long as its not me that has to employ them its ok

            You don’t pay any tax then?

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        • 257
          Technomist says:

          These figures don’t take into account the other major platforms for Labour party propaganda, the so-called newspapers published by local authorities and stuffed through the letter boxes in many London boroughs

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    • 155
      mat says:

      This is a VERY sensible plan.

      As with most things simple, but effective !

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    • 228
      Budgie says:

      There should not be any more government jobs TO advertise, until Brown’s debt is paid off.

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  3. 3
    13eastie (116 days: "Goodbye, Gordon") says:

    Keep the good bits.

    Get rid of the wet liberal angst-ridden hand-wringing shite.

    Rename it “The Independant Crossword”.

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    • 51
      Mad Fucker Gordon says:

      How about ““The Sun Crossword””

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      • 79
        barefootcontessa says:

        Their front page has been a disaster area.

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      • 107
        13eastie (116 days: Goodbye, ☭ordon) says:

        You’ve either never attempted the Sun crossword or you’ve never attempted the Independent Crossword, Gordon, you mad fucker.

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    • 127
      Rosebudski says:

      Why not just call it “Oligarch Pravda”, ruthlessly tracking down the “truth” of any opponents to Russian oligarchs.

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      the fettes/eton axis says:

      I had no idea that the “wet liberal hand-wringing shite” (or Dodgy Dave as we know and love him) works for the Independent.

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  4. 4

    To survive the ‘Inde’ needs to increase circulation and reduce costs. Installing Rod Liddle would to my mind, clearly have the reverse effect. Editing a newspaper is not the same as editing a radio programme.

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  5. 5
    Anonymous says:

    Great idea, Guido. That way they could lose their entire readership base.

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  6. 6
    Barry Obama, painter and decorator says:

    Would be great to see premier arseholes YAB and Hari get the sack.

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    EU = Willkommen zum Vierten Reich! says:

    Good proposition,young Fawkes – but you know it won’t happen.

    Old habits die hard…

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    Dack Blog says:

    Two journalists killed Afgh – Sunday Mirror.

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  9. 9
    Dave Cameron says:

    There really is only one choice as Editor of The Independent.

    Everyone’s favourite,the man of the moment,

    The very cuddly,the one and only Iain Dale.

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    Bonkers_Ten says:

    Trendy Liberalism gets squeezed during hard times.
    The only way forward for the Independent is to become dependent.
    It will end up waffling on behalf of some fat cat.

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  11. 13
    Chuckey Chutney says:

    get a newspaper on the sony ereader – it can’t be that hard

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    • 22
      Carry On Don't Lose Your Head (1967) says:

      The new Apple iSlate – or whatever it will be called – might reboot newspapers in the same way the iPod did for music.

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      • 36
        fashion victim says:

        the MacWheel will be a better bet for those who are true apple fans, it is the most intuitive design ever.

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    Chunky (the man with the pineapple bollocks) says:

    A page three ‘Stunner’ would work better for the independent.
    “The tits are out lads and been replaced with………a top heavy bevvy of humongous TITS”

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    • 21
      Chunky (the man with the pineapple bollocks) says:

      Include a special pullout of readers wifes……on second thoughts fuck that.
      Ethnic beads drapped through a massive muff aint my cup of tea.

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    • 24
      TUTING VERY LOUDLY FROM SOLIHULL says:

      TUT TUT and that’s whats missing from the Daily Mail, I said to wife a chap doesn’t want a free puzzle book at the breakfast table but what he wants is bossoms, big plump milky white ones.

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      • 28
        Chunky (the man with the pineapple bollocks) says:

        They are sly bastards at ‘The Mail’. read the ‘Femail’ section.
        Plenty of undressed women doing alleged surveys into body/tit/arse shapes.
        Dirty feckers.

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      • 61
        barefootcontessa says:

        It’s the women who love the Word Wheel etc.

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  13. 18
    Carry On Don't Lose Your Head (1967) says:

    The Indy should go liberal-right/libertarian, mash-up blogs (like this one) with it’s staff content and ban George Monbiot. Then I might start buying it again.

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  14. 19
    concrete pump says:

    Get Kelvin Mackenzie in.

    That would be interesting.

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  15. 23
    Anonymous says:

    I’m afraid political position is only a minor factor in many people’s choice of newspaper. If you think otherwise, you’ve obviously never worked in the industry.

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  16. 29
    Down with Brown! says:

    Riddle is pissing off cocky little Will Straw. Riddle is therefore not entirely bad and better than the Guardian clones currently working at the Indy.

    http://www.leftfootforward.org/2010/01/stop-rod-liddle/

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  17. 30

    So by moving the “Indy” in political terms that frees up all the ground for the Grauniad and saves them

    Why would anyone wish to save the Grauniad?

    So let’s move the Indy’s position after the Grauniad has gone, once it’s mission is completed

    Then D’Ancona can go to the Times and revitalise that dead trees press to bring down the LieBourGraph

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  18. 33
    AW says:

    While I’d love to see the Indy come out for Cameron I think they would be seriously risking turning many of their readers off the paper. (Let’s be honest many of their readers are only an inch off going with The Guardian). – Not that Tories don’t ever read it, I do now and again, but moralist hippies seem to love it (a lot) more.

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    • 67
      Engineer says:

      “Turning many of their readers off the paper.”

      The Indy’s problem is that it doesn’t have many readers. Gargoyle Carver’s Monthly probably gets more readers than the Indy.

      A ‘Big Name’ editor will only help if backed by good columnists and quick, decisive journalism. Guido’s right in that more of the latter is now happening in other media – television, radio, interweb. The big money can earned in television and radio (especially if you land a cushy number with the Beeb), and there are better places for the hard-hitting columnist to be – if you’re freelance, you’d want your articles in the higher-circulation papers.

      Time to read the last rites over the Indy, sadly.

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      • 234
        Budgie says:

        The BBC has a captive audience (well nearly – you can avoid the TV poll tax legally by not watching), so can pump out modernist, semi socialist, corporatist bilge without responsibility. The Indy tries to do the same and no-one wants to buy. Arf, arf, arf, arf.

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        • 244
          Moley says:

          You can avoid the BBC Poll tax by not paying.

          Since the BBC automatically assumes that no sentient human can survive without their drivel, it makes no difference whether you watch or not; they will still persecute you.

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        • 251
          Foxy Fuchsochs says:

          Their latest trick is to allow you to watch live tv on their website- so long as you’ve paid the licence fee. Should you be prepared to wait until a show is over and available on their iPlayer service, there is no need to have a licence (as the law currently stands).

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  19. 34
    Anonymous says:

    Matthew D’anconservative ??? You do talk some fucking wank sometimes guido.

    I’m sceptical about this. That’s sceptical. With a C.

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    • 44
      Top Tips for Tories says:

      Is D’Anconservative not write for the Boris Standard and has a posh socialite girlfriend these days !

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      • 68
        John Bull says:

        He also looks like Nick Griffin’s younger, surlier and less intelligent brother.

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        • 111
          NeatherForget! says:

          Is he related to professional hippy Bob d’Ancona, who used to be married to faint-hearted feminist Jill Tweedie?

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  20. 35
    Anjem Choudary says "I love anal with pigs" says:

    Fuck the Indy, it’s just another toile tbowl leftie rag read by fucking Cocaine snorters and rent boy abusers.

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    • 113
      Amazing what gets moderated and what doesn't says:

      Amazing what gets moderated and what doesn’t

      The Admiral says:
      Your comment is awaiting moderation.

      January 10, 2010 at 1:44 pm
      Bugger, can’t drink the stuff…

      Reply
      The Admiral says:
      Your comment is awaiting moderation.

      January 10, 2010 at 1:46 pm
      I only said I couldn’t drink the stuff…

      Reply

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    • 115
      Amazing what gets moderated and what doesn't says:

      Oh come on…

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  21. 37
    CMQ says:

    To have any chance of success, he’d have to sack everyone but the tea boy (person).

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  22. 41
    P.Handlesman's Broad Church says:

    Let us pray:

    Our Pariah, which art in Downing Street,
    Hated be thy name.
    Thy party come,
    Our Nation’s wealth go, in 2010 as in the 1970’s.
    Give us this day our daily soundbites
    And forgive us our tirading against those who tyrannise against us
    And lead us not into another term of office,
    But deliver us from evil
    For thine is the catastrophe,the penury and the gloom
    For ever and ever. Amen.

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    • 43
      P.Handlesman's Broad Church says:

      Kindly say The Gord’s Prayer every day. Thank you.

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      • 52
        Gordon Brown says:

        Gord is great
        Allweather snackbar,

        Please vote for me Muslim Council of Britain.

        Muslims gave Ken backing eh?

        Oh, he lost didn’t he.

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    • 49

      That seems a fairly sound set of ideas, Guido.

      Mind you, there are several good people out in the regional press who might be useful for the Indie. Some fresh blood is required.

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      • 214
        cant hunter says:

        Please let the Indie hire that ghastly, and flaming useless, Mary Riddell ( the worlds worst columnist), then we can go back to buying the Torygraph again.

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    • 90
      AC1 says:

      He’s going to bomb and murder innocent people in Shops?

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    • 126
      Maladroit Labour Chump says:

      Brown thought B£iar was one of the greatest slime ministers. So why did Brown spend ten years ousting B£iar from number 10 ??

      Sounds like the lies are just being stacked upon the lies.

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  24. 46
    Connie Lingers says:

    Guido = ‘Balls deep with Camoron

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  25. 47
    Firkin L says:

    Is it posssible for Guido to get any higher up Camoron’s ‘arse?

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  26. 50
    LU says:

    Brown must be getting really desperate again:

    “Glamorous Sarah will be thrust into the election limelight after Labour chiefs identified her as the PM’s greatest asset. She has redrawn her diary so she can be constantly at her husband’s side during the hectic four-week run-in to polling day.”

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  27. 57
    Jumbo says:

    Guido your advice is redundant if the bogrolluaridan goes as expected out of business mid-2010

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  28. 62
    Eva Brown says:

    Rod Liddle is one of very few political commentators prepared to speak the truth about immigration and the ‘benefits’ of multiculturalism, I think for that alone it would be beneficial for political debate to have him as editor of the Independent.

    Another establishment govt insider as editor? No thanks.

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    • 72
      He's not the Messiah (he's a very naughty boy) says:

      Please don’t go off message, it confuses the daily mail readers on here.

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    • 112
      Tron says:

      Rod Liddle talks about Muslims while everybody else is shit scared. That means you Guido.

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      • 133
        Mr Ned says:

        Why is anyone scared of muslims? They are utterly incompetent. 14 year old council estate kids cause more damage. Look at the “terrorist outrage” that took place just after Brown became Prime Minister. Three attempted “car bombs” and what did they achieve? one car fire in which they set themselves alight!

        You get more than that on a liverpool council estate every week!!

        As for 7/7 and 9/11 they could not possibly have been achieved WITHOUT some intelligence service assistance to ensure that a known plot succeeded.

        You don’t believe me? Well can you tell me what officially happened? NO!!!

        As it is, both co-chairs of the official 9/11 commission report have disowned that report completely and described it as not truthful, as has their chief legal council and many of the witnesses who had their testimony rejected by it. The official 9/11 commission report is one of the weakest conspiracy theories ever produced. So if the official 9/11 commission do not buy the ‘official’ version of what happened, WHY SHOULD ANYONE ELSE?

        REAL independent Islamic Terrorists are utterly incompetent and no threat at all.

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  29. 65
    barefootcontessa says:

    Good news! Tea’s making a come back!

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  30. 69
    Technology Expert says:

    I suggest you all look out for the Apple and Sony digital tablets, they will be the hot thing to own in 2010.

    Stream comics, books, play music, watch videos, play games they look very sexy as well etc. etc.

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    GILF Expert says:

    Mrs Robinson has got some mileage still left in her

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  32. 83
    Breaking News! says:

    Guido’s plan to save the world whilst sucking up to “The Boy” Dave!

    Well got to have something in reserve when the blog goes ‘tits up.

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  33. 84
    politically motivated press says:

    God blimey at this rate the left will be reading the Beano or the Dandy. The Beezer is just too right wing.

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    • 163
      My Other Cars Not A Prius Either! says:

      Nah,the beano is too voilent and apparently the dandy has a non-vegetarian in it!!!!

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  34. 85
    AC1 says:

    Ambulance Chasers.com posted this in the previous thread.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/6958131/Health-and-safety-experts-warn-dont-clear-icy-pavements-you-could-get-sued.html

    Isn’t-Working seem to be on a path to destroy civic society. Under Labour there really will be no such thing as society, just state slaves.

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      Sir William Waad says:

      I thin this is an urban legend. There is no way you could owe somebody a duty of care in relation to a piece of land that is not under your control.

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    • 171
      Lil Olmey says:

      Will there be enough bullets and walls for these clowns when the day of reckoning comes ?

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    • 223
      Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

      In France and Germany it is compulsory to sweep the pavement outside of your house once a week.

      Clearing the snow is also compulsory!

      Not sure about here in Belgium, but people do it anyway.

      Bloody uncivilised Europeans.

      We are still allowed to wave kitchen knives about.

      When Old Bill came to check us out when we first moved here he was very impressed with my kenjutsu (japanese sword play)

      Old Bill, European, have (generally) a fond weakness for samurai hippies. They respect it.

      Just wanted to know if we had any unregistered guns.

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    • 287
      Hugh Janus says:

      It gets worse – if you heard Farming Today This Week on R4 yesterday, there is a farmer who used to voluntarily plough the snow from the road through his village – until some pathetic jobsworth showed up and pointed out that, since his tractor uses red diesel, he had to stop because he was breaking the law by using in on the public highway.

      Understandably, he no longer clears the road and now just leaves them to it.

      What is this bloody country coming to?

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  35. 87
    Raptor says:

    The Independent is just the Guardian when it has forgotten to take its medication.

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  36. 91
    AC1 says:

    My idea for The independent of Reality.

    Sack the Press Release recyclers, and employ some journalists.

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    • 315
      The Press was killing itself even before the internet says:

      ‘churnalist’ is shorter and just as accurate
      but you’d be sacking most of the street of shame since 90% of them just recycle AP and Reuters copy and then change the tone for Red Top or broadsheet

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    Sid the Sexist says:

    My plan to save the Indy. Page 3 topless tottie.

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  38. 102
    Camels Arse says:

    What part of ‘Independent’ didnt the cu*nts at the ‘Independent’ understand?

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    • 241
      Andreas Whittam-Smith says:

      It is. Are you?

      It was.

      I think the independent part is the part that they do not get.

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      • 327
        AC1 says:

        Maybe they should, in a fit of pique against false advertising, rename it the “Tryingly Predictable Marxist Comment Paper”?

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  39. 106
    Unicorn Administrations says:

    Hush

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  40. 108
    Alistair Campbell Reformed says:

    I’m available. I’m quite a nice chap now. Champion of mental health issues, pro expensive alcohol, pro permanent closure of pubs and off licences,pro Burnley, pro open government, pro integity in politicians,pro Xmas, pro apple pie, anti war, anti dodgy dossiers, anti hounding honorable to death in the woods, anti slander, anti calumny, antil lies, anti spin.

    Liddle is a Cameron toady lickspittle and a disgrace to journalism. He is also a wifebeater and serial adulterer. I mention in the interests of fairness.

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    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    Nice article, but why the Nick Griffin photo?

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  42. 117
    Miss Direction says:

    Unicorn Administration? What is that about Guido? Students with bunions?

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  43. 121
    Sir William Waad says:

    My sources in the Civil Service tell me that the GE is definitely scheduled for 6 May. This is the date the Speccie picked and is also the date of local elections. All special events and exhibitions involving the Civil Service have been cancelled for that day.

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    • 130
      lol says:

      what? you mean they’ll all have to turn up for work?

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    • 143
      streamfisher says:

      Pas de Calais or Normandy?, don’t be fooled by a corpse washed up on the beach with false papers, I am constructing a mulberry harbour in my back garden, just need enough hose to stretch over channel before the fuel runs out. Who do you think you are kidding Mr Hitler if you think old England’s done……. Gordon says… Stupid Boy!

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    • 202
      bergen says:

      It’s got to be the most likely date as it will at least help Labour at Council level even if(when?)they go down the tubes at Westminster.Let’s face it.Labour voters are certainly not likely to be “enthused” enough to turn out for a Council election alone at the moment.

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  44. 134

    Hahahaha…

    Guido, what have you got against Matthew d’Ancona?

    He’ll never get a job on the Indy now :-)

    Ampers.

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    Amazing what gets moderated and what doesn't says:

    It occurs to me, if you really want to “save” the Indy you’ll have to buy it. And for that you should re-post this on Monday when the real money are working from home, and not trying to find a plumber for their lead pipes on a Sunday.

    Just a thought – A

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    sick bucket needed says:

    ‘glamorous sarah brown’ !!!!!!!!!

    who wrote that?
    david blunkett?stevie wonder?ray charles?

    brown-uber hoon.the man that wouldnt use his ‘family’………

    so thats why his kids were at the conferences and sarah ‘brian moore has nicer legs’ beard is constantly trying to grab attention……….

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    “Save” the Indy?

    Guido didn’t you read the Speccie when D’Anconna edited it? He got in lots of celebrity “writers” (with more of an emphasis on celebrity rather than writer) and dumbed it down. Not that I am saying the Indy is anywhere near the quality of the Speccie when Boris edited it, but there is a lot of room for it to slide.

    Under Liddle there is a chance that the quality of writing will improve. Also, D’Anconna is a soft touch, a conciliatory type of guy he is too willing to allow people to have their own way. Liddle is far more authoritarian and will run a tight ship. I think that is the reason why Lebedev wants him – he wants to protect his investment.

    Finally, I think the reason why D’Anconna was removed so quickly from the Speccie goes a long way to explain why he won’t be made the editor of the Indy.

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  48. 148
    Anonymous says:

    D’Ancona almost finished off the Spectator. I’d buy the paper if Rod was editor. At present I wouldn’t even click in that direction.

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  49. 151
    Oboyo says:

    You are spot on with your assessment of what would lift the Independent. There is such a gaping void to replace what the Telegraph used to stand for.

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  50. 153
    Brown - a study in treason says:

    Brown will be gone by the end of January.

    There is a drip,drip,drip of attacks happening every week and for Brown,it is not a case of a week being a long time in politics,it’s a DAY being a long time.

    He is one of those freaks of nature that causes chaos and failure where ever they go.

    He is simply a one man Armageddon.

    There must be a handful of these type of people around the world,the difference being that Brown just happens to have managed to get to the position of PM, “leading” a country of 60 million people.

    It’s like something out of an airport pulp thriller.

    Now we are at the point where the Queen has to tell Brown – during their weekly catch-up at the Palace,that he must now step aside.

    Elizabeth – over to you.

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  51. 158
    lol says:

    more pranks and daring do……

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6982747.ece

    harwoman to get more ‘face’

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  52. 159
    Happyness Stan says:

    What does liberal mean? Does anyone know? Does anyone care?

    One thing liberal does not seem to mean is anything to do with modern political parties. At a time when, we have spy cameras everywhere but in our own bedrooms, ID chips are becoming a serious proposition, and our national democracy has been successfully usurped by unaccountable appointees, what indeed is the point of having an electable liberal party at all?

    The whole concept of national democracy is no more, this is an EX nation.

    Maybe we can somehow turn back the overwhelming tide of world corporate communism, but it is far more likely that we can not, under any circumstances.

    This is not just a deliberately bankrupted, financially dependant EX nation, with a one way ticket to hell in its back pocket. It has become a nation not worth saving. Not even worth the effort needed to try to do so.

    Therefore The independent, The Guardian, The Daily Mail, The BBC and all of the rest, can start supporting Krishna for all the difference it can possibly make to the way things are about to be.

    The future of this country was decided long ago by people you don’t know, have never heard of, and could not give a flying fuck whether you all live of die. They care about their pet Corgi’s, or garden bean plants more then your children. Come to think about it, they care about their own farts more then a whole City full of human beings.

    Socialism is, and has always been a form of Apocalyptic GENOCIDE dressed up as Father Christmas.

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      Equity abhors a Maxim says:

      ‘Liberal’. like ‘progressive’ is a moveable feast. Rather than depending upon predictable lunar cycles, they depend upon the fallacies of the Fabian left. In America, the ‘progressives’ are a bunch of neo-conservative rightists. Once the term crosses the Atlantic, its meaning is transformed.

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      AC1 says:

      Just part of the attack on civility.

      Remember NEVER EVER phone the police, just dispose of the bodies.

      Luckily as the police stop bothering about crime, they also lose the ability to stop people retaking the law from the leftists and back into their hands.

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  54. 170
    Angel says:

    Cameron’s so called liberal Conservatism is an oxymoron and no Independent editor would sign up to such a hostage to fortune. The readership would be lost and it would have to change its name to the Dependent.

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  55. 173
    Another ignored media hack says:

    Here is a shocking thought;

    Why can’t the Independent be Independent?

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    • 174
      Thatcher's 'snatch says:

      Hear hear!

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    • 175
      Lil Olmey says:

      Why can’t Jockland bugger off and be independent ?

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        BillyBob ... reduce crime, national debt and carbon footprint, stop immigration? Every little helps! says:

        From The Sunday Times today….

        Scots most affluent

        Scotland is now the most affluent country in the UK, according to a new study which reveals that a decade of devolution has produced higher wages and less poverty and unemployment than in England.

        The report, by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation, suggests the north-south divide, which previously characterised Scotland as the poorer relation, has been reversed. Scotland now has fewer families living below the breadline, more people in work and higher average salaries than England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

        The changes have prompted renewed calls for an end to the preferential Treasury funding formula which gives Scots 20% higher public spending than those south of the border.

        I wonder why they are sooooooooo affluent…..??? Scottish Labour Mafia…..?? simples !!

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          I.S. Mellarat says:

          Paid for by English taxpayers

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        • 198
          Please don't say "simples" says:

          Please don’t say “simples” – It makes you sound like a chav cnut

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          • BillyBob ... reduce crime, national debt and carbon footprint, stop immigration? Every little helps! says:

            Okies……… sorry !! :)

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          Geordie-on-Thames says:

          This is good news.The Scots can now pay off the RBS and HBOS debts.

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        • 207
          Ed Balls kitten says:

          Roll on Scottish welsh and irish independence. Brown and all his scottish cronies gone and England free. Send all people born in Scotland back as well

          Like

          • Tutting Very Loudly From Solihull says:

            TUT TUT, can they fix that dam wall Hadrian built, it looks a frightful eyesore and lowers the tone of the neighbourhood.

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  56. 178
    I have money says:

    I read the wall street journal

    fnar fnar

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  57. 182
    barefootcontessa says:

    Buying salt from Germany?! Whatever next?

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  58. 183
    shergar says:

    Didn’t Jonah recently lead the free world’s response in the battle against man made global warming? Expect another year of this weather. Someone needs to try holy water and a stake.

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    • 199
      I.S. Mellarat says:

      Piano wire and lampost will suffice

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    • 200
      Bob Ainsworth's wig says:

      Google “Piers Corbyn”. He is a weather forecaster who has been right so often that bookies now refuse to accept any more of his bets — unlike the craphounds at the Met Office (typical public sector service, i.e. you pay for it but don’t get it). Corbyn reckons AGW is complete bollocks. Awkward for his brother Jeremy, who is (was?) a Labour MP with all that the title implies.

      P. Corbyn’s forecasts are so good that you have to pay for them — and lots of businesses, farmers and whatnot do. His complaints that the establishment have signed up to Greenery have fallen on predictably deaf ears. I’m not sure that he understands the role of green taxes and economy-destruction in the global master-plan.

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  59. 187
    BillyBob ... reduce crime, national debt and carbon footprint, stop immigration? Every little helps! says:

    The NotSoIndependent….save it??? noooooo let it die, I used to buy it when it was truly independent but these days it is cr*p !!

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  60. 203
    anon, anon, anon....... says:

    Never mind The Indy………………………..The Sun will come out tomorrow.

    About time for the killer headline

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  61. 205
    Bonkers_Ten says:

    Halt! Ve haf vays of making zu sellus yur salt!

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/incoming/extra-salt-for-gritshortage-areas-14630255.html

    Now it will be the Germans who will have to look to Russia for salt. Putin will have to press gang peasants into the salt mines – all because Gordon listened to the global warmists and got the salt orders cut back. We all know how much Gordon loves peasants!

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  62. 206
    smegma says:

    The swivel eyed climate scientists need to be asked the simple question – “has there been a period of the earth’s history when the climate has NOT been changing?”

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      JMT says:

      Actually the simplest way to f**k their heads is to ask:

      What sort of weather can we expect from Global Cooling Cooling, as opposed to Global Warming Cooling?

      Any shite about not understanding the differenec between Climate and weather is simple.

      Weather is what we acually get whereas climate is the weather the green wankers would like us to expect.

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        Chuckey Chutney says:

        i like that

        “global warming cooling”
        V
        “global cooling cooling”
        V
        “climate change cooling”

        I am off to shout at the darts

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    • 292
      Max says:

      I’m sure “Climate” is one of the controls in my Jag. Does that help?

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  63. 210
    Blackadder2 says:

    Do we need another “liberal” paper? I can’t tell the difference between the Guardian, Independent and the Notting Hill Crowd on matters of substance at the best of times. How about a radically skeptical paper that exposes corruption and waste and holds politicians and bureaucrats up to the scorn they deserve?

    It could also do fitness specials on “Vlad’s abs” to cover the Russian angle and shine a bit more light on that vast country, which has the gas we will need to keep warm as CO2 emissions do their (non-existent) work. Mr d’Ancona is not going to rock the State’s boat, Mr Liddle has some potential to make for interesting times.

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  64. 212
    anon, anon, anon....... says:

    It’s just struck me …a way out for Gordon.
    Turkey baster from M&S for £6
    Sarah becomes pregnant.
    Gordon takes a year out
    When it’s all over
    Comes back to save the party in 2011………….. simps

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  65. 215
    Gordon Brown says:

    …..and I thought that”Cameroons house paper” was The Sun.

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  66. 217
    Tick as Teefs says:

    Sorry,wrong blog

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  67. 218
    Dave"call me Wayne Rooney" Cameron says:

    There it was then.
    I hit the ball first time and there it was in the back of the net

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  68. 224
    Zac Goldsmith says:

    This is bollocks

    Donations to a political party are regulated by the Political Parties Elections and Referendums Act 2000. By making a donation via the Labour Party website I understand and accept the following:

    •If I am making a donation of more than £500 checks will be made to ensure my name is included on a UK electoral register (excluding the Isle of Man and Channel Islands)
    •if I donate more than £1,500 to a Constituency Labour Party or more than £7,500 to the national Labour Party in a calendar year, my name and the amount of the donation will be reported to the Electoral Commission. Such donations will be published on the Electoral Commission’s website, although my home address will not be made public
    •The money you use to make a donation must be from your own funds. You must not pass on money to the Labour Party from a third party. It is an offence not to reveal the true source of a donation. Please call the Compliance Unit on 020 7783 1498 for more details.
    •this donation is not tax-deductible
    •this donation facility is provided for individuals to make donations to the Labour Party. UK companies, limited liability partnerships, trade unions and unincorporated associations may also make donations to the Labour Party. Please call the Compliance Unit on 020 7783 1498 for more details.

    The information you have provided will not be shared with any organisation or individual outside the Labour Party without your consent, nor transferred outside of the United Kingdom. Full privacy statement.

    ‘Scuse me while I light my spliff

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      all the scoops that Andy Couslon approves says:

      nah mate
      see what you’ve got there is lawbreaking and a scurrilous political story any independent minded political blog would be delighted to scoop on

      but it’s just the wrong colour for Guido
      come back when you have something a bit less blue

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      vote dave get gordon says:

      Still peddling your globallshit warming Zac with your puppet dave?

      One word – climategate!

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  69. 233
    Anonymous says:

    Hat tip
    From a poster on ConHome. and PB.com SallyC

    This is part of the BBC’s story: “Jonathan Kramer, son of Susan Kramer, MP for Richmond Park, donated more than £1,300 to the Liberal Democrats between December 2008 and March 2009. But the party was forced to repay the money when the Electoral Commission discovered Mr Kramer was not registered to vote in the UK. Parties can only accept donations from those on the electoral role. [...] Parties have 30 days to check whether donations are permissible or return them – something the Lib Dems failed to do.”
    For more see: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8211809.stm

    Glass houses and stones etc.

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      Moley says:

      Donations of several hundred thousand pounds were disallowed to UKIP for the same reason.

      The Electoral Commission has to pretend to be impartial.

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  70. 236
    Brown Guilty as charged says:

    Leaked ministerial letters reveal how, as chancellor, Brown repeatedly prevented Hoon from ordering life-saving battlefield equipment for Afghanistan and Iraq.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6982440.ece

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      Uncle Si says:

      Just shows that he’s quite happy to gamble with other people lives, Bl*ar is up in front of the enquiry soon, I wonder how many more leaks will hit the new desk’s over the next few weeks.

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      stiff upper lip says:

      what will you cock suckers in the UK do about it? nothing you are a spent force and a corrupt cesspit.

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      Hugh Janus says:

      Never forget that McPENO (Public Enemy Number One) lopped £1.4bn off the helicopter budget in 2004 – I wonder how many troops we have lost or who have been maimed by the wanton stupidity of this utter bastard?

      At what point does a politician’s decision cross the boundary from the merely incompetent to the obviously criminal??

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        Gordon's favourite Butt Plug says:

        Mr Brown has said repeatedly at the despatch box that he has supplied EVERYTHING our troops could ever want. Lying Toad.

        He said that Helicopters would have made no difference. Really?

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  71. 243
    Max says:

    Evening all, apologies for being late (and even more apologies if my quick speed read of the above failed to spot that this has already been posted) but you can compare and contrast Liddle versus D’Ancona here:

    Liddle

    D’Ancona

    From the stats Liddle is obsessed with the BBC and D’Ancona with McDoom, interestingly the latter is shared with a certain G. Fawkes (to be fair the stats are not as directly comparable as Liddle/D’Ancona) as can be seen here: Guido.

    I think Liddle would be more fun.

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      nell says:

      I hope hoon humiliates him before Chilcott for pulling that £1.4billion funding for helicopters when he was chancellor, which gordon did simply to annoy bliar, and which would have saved so may of our young mens lives in Afghanistan.

      But I hope, really hope, that gordon stays PM to fight the next election.

      After he’s lost it, I hope the labour party tosses him out on his ear like so much unwanted rubbish.

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        Uncle Si says:

        On C4 tonight there were pictures of Broon in 2007, he’s not aged well in the last three years! a very troubled man

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        Hugh Janus says:

        Sorry Nell, same point above, should have read further before posting.

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          nell says:

          Yes Hugh – Sorry! didn’t see that.

          All the same I think it bears repeating that in 2004 when brown pulled that £1.4billion funding for helicopters we were in the throes of the Iraq War and our lads were short of helicopters.

          Brown pulled the funding to politically embarrass bliar and give himself a power boost. He wanted to show labour MP’s and Ministers that he was stronger than bliar in the labour party. He cared more about causing political embarrassment to bliar, and proving that he was a ‘bigger’ man than bliar in the labour party, than he did about protecting troops in the war. That says everything about this man!!

          That decision has come home to burn him now that our lads in Afghanistan are suffering grievously from his incompetence , misjudgement and that loss of helicopters.

          gordon is of less worth than that pile of mice droppings I found in my garage this morning!

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          • thick as pigshit says:

            Dave will save the troops by commiting them to 5 more years of bloody carnage
            innit?

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          • nell says:

            The truth about Afghanistan is that we have put our hand into a bucket of water and when we take it out, as cameron must, no-one will ever know, despite the sacrifices of our troops, that we have been there.

            You think about that – cameron didn’t put us there, bliar and brown did.

            Problem with brown is that as chancellor and then as PM, he has trimmed the MoD budget so tight our Armed Forces didn’t have anywhere near the equipment that they needed to survive the Iraq War.

            And let’s face it they are even more deprived of resources and support for his Afghanistan War. Frankly they are dying for lack of support from this useless PM. There is no doubt that he is going to go down in history with blood on his hands!!

            cameron now needs to work a way to get us out of bliar/brown’s incompetent egotistical war. I just hope it’s sooner rather than later!!!

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          • barefootcontessa says:

            Trouble is, Tories are war mongers, always have been, always will be!

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          • Blair should have sacked him.

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      barefootcontessa says:

      Hoon perhaps not such a hoon as we all thought.

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    BillyBob ... reduce crime, national debt and carbon footprint, stop immigration? Every little helps! says:

    Gordon is a good gay….oops sorry, I mean guy, he has promised to educate all the pickinnies in Africa…… so he must be good !

    will only cost us tax payers £8.5 billion

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4893980.stm

    toss pot !!!!

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    • 259
      Not Likey Pikey says:

      Are those the same guys in willy wonkers chocolate factory?

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    • 261
      stiff upper lip says:

      We are bankrolling our own demise, if we keep funding the African population explosion it doesn’t take a genius to see where they will all end up.

      You Limes need a written constitution to stop your PM from throwing your money away like confetti without public consent.

      We need our presidents to stop undermining the constitution.

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    50 Calibre says:

    Some light relief…

    An American woodpecker and a Canadian woodpecker were in America arguing about which country had the toughest trees. The American woodpecker claimed America had a tree that no woodpecker could peck. The Canadian woodpecker accepted his challenge and promptly pecked a hole in the tree with no problem. The American woodpecker was amazed.

    The Canadian woodpecker then challenged the American woodpecker to peck a tree in Canada that was absolutely ‘impeccable’ (a term frequently used by woodpeckers). The American woodpecker expressed confidence that he could do it and accepted the challenge. The two of them flew to Canada where the American woodpecker successfully pecked the so-called ‘impeccable’ tree almost without breaking a sweat.

    Both woodpeckers were now terribly confused.

    How is it that the Canadian woodpecker was able to peck the American tree, and the American woodpecker was able to peck the Canadian tree, yet neither was able to peck the tree in their own country?

    After much woodpecker pondering, they both came to the same conclusion:
    Apparently, Tiger Woods was right, when he said, “Your pecker gets harder when you’re away from home”

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  75. 268
    allan akhbar says:

    i am hearing there are events happening in wooton b. right now………

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    C+P telegraph comments says:

    12:40 – Reports of 4 coaches of Choudary’s muslims heading to Wooton Bassett.
    13:11 – Wiltshire police confirm Choudary is ‘on his way’.
    14:04 – Huge police presence and 150 EDL in Wootton Bassett.
    15:04 – Cross Keys pub shut on police advice.
    15:08 – Choudary stopped by police outside Wootton Bassett.
    13:20 – ITN news crew on outskirts of WB but cannot report due to police
    restrictions.
    15:23 – news finally hits a few papers.
    15:40 – islam4uk gather in Sainsabury’s carpark.
    15:45 – Reports of Choudary put under arrest.
    15:49 – 500 EDL arrive in Wootton Bassett from as far as Bristol, Wales, London etc.
    16:06 – EDL announce a 2minute silence to be held at 16:30 at the war memorial.
    16:22 – EDL leaving Wootton Bassett, NF have turned up.
    16:25 – Rumours of UAF and islam4uk slogans daubed on war memorials in Northern towns.
    16:43 – Rumour has it Choudary was removed for his own protection.
    16:52 – BBC source says all the media are being kept away from the town.
    16:55 – WB resident confirms Choudary was turned back and EDL were ultra respectful.
    18:30 – Still no main media coverag

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      cheche says:

      U making this up or do you have a valid source?

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    • 288
      Max says:

      EDL but no I4UK? Check: Facebook and Local Press. Something happened but not clear what.

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    • 290

      SKY says: More Snow To Come!

      Move along, nothing to see here. Anyone spare a tenner?

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    • 303
      Max says:

      On SKY now 20.23 but no I4UK. Filmed much earlier ie daylight so if above true then SKY not subject to ITV restrictions! BBC probably still working on a “Gordon Wins The Day” angle.

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        13eastie (116 days: Goodbye, ☭ordon) says:

        It strongly seems that there has been a news embargo on this.

        Presumably another super injunction.

        CNN is reporting that, in another massive Labour U-turn, Al-Muhajiroun is to be outlawed in the UK, along with it’s offshoot, islam4uk.

        This move, which was called for by the Conservatives some time ago, has not been reported in the UK.

        Neither has the attempt by islamists to outrage public decency in Wootton Bassett today.

        Who has ordered the news blackout?

        By whose decree are these subversive Muslims being protected from public scrutiny?

        Who is afraid of the British people knowing what is happening in their own country?

        Who stands to gain if the people are kept in the dark when home-grown extremists who hate the country that protects them try to piss all over the nation’s dignity?

        Gordon is on YOUR side, remember?

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        • 339
          Max says:

          CNN say the I4UK website is closed and that is correct as of 21.13; the tab says “Back Soon” and all that remains is the statement that SKY mentioned earlier. It is oddly dated 9th January (and to my knowledge has been there since this afternoon at least) so maybe McDoom’s finger men were busy at work last night after all. Something was due to kick off today?

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      nell says:

      Hope it was snowing and the temperature , like here, had already dropped well below freezing.

      With luck, whether they were Islam4UK, EDL ,NF , they would have suffered frostbite or hypothermia.

      England, after gordon’s incompetent rough handling, needs nurturing. it does not need the stormy edges of extremism.

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      • 417
        vote dave get gordon says:

        EDL is state controlled, a monitoring excersise. Expect some goverment false flags in the near future.

        These people are being set up for a fall, steer clear.

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    • 328
      Max says:

      Fuller story on SKY now, 20.53; I4UK did back down (circumstances unknown) and have agreed no march will now take place. Full I4UK statement to follow.

      Nice to see some of Rupert’s boys are out there doing that “reporting” thing rather than queuing up to crawl up McDoom’s arse in one way or another.

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    • 332
      Gordon's favourite Butt Plug says:

      Is this an actual event or simply mischief?

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      Nothing Dignified about a media clusterfuck a nutter or yobs fighting says:

      GOOD!

      only thick wankers want to give this nutter scumbag and the EDL football yobs out for a fight free publicity

      the residents of Wootton Bassett are smarter than them or the sensationalist media and have dealt with this toerag and the yobs with dignity and skill

      were the media to go against the wishes of the residents and invade the town, turning it onto media clusterfuck to cover the publicity whores of scumbag Choudary and the neanderthal EDL fighting like dr*nken football hooligans, then they would soon find themselves frozen out of any further coverage of the funeral processions and the residents would have a spokesman denounce them utterly in clear and unambiguous terms and tell them they are no longer welcome

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        13eastie (116 days: Goodbye, ☭ordon) says:

        So who gets to decide what news is fit for broadcast?

        You?

        Fuck off, you fascist сunt.

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          Nothing Dignified about a media clusterfuck a nutter or yobs fighting says:

          The residents of Wootton Basset you shit-for-brains simpleton

          It’s their town and if they want the Media and all those fringe nutters to fuck off they should be respected

          Like I said, only thick wankers would want to turn the place into a media sensationalist battlefield for scumbag muslim extremists and the Nazi NF/EDL

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          • 13eastie (116 days: Goodbye, ☭ordon) says:

            Goodwin’s Law

            FAIL

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          • Nothing Dignified about a media clusterfuck a nutter or yobs fighting says:

            you really are a thick b@stard aren’t you?
            what’s wrong ? don’t like the NF described as they are ?

            you’re clearly one of the neanderthal wankers hoping for a fight and for it to appear all over the news and don’t care about the wishes of the residents of Wootton Basset.

            so you’re no better than Choudary or the NF/EDL.
            pure scum

            You were the one who tried to call those who wanted the media to fuck off ‘fascist сunt’ simpleton

            so are you calling the residents of Wootton Basset ‘fascist сunt’ for not wanting the media, scumbag Choudray or NF/EDL yobs invading their town ?

            take your time fuckstick

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          • 13eastie (116 days: Goodbye, ☭ordon) says:

            click here for more info

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          • Nothing Dignified about a media clusterfuck a nutter or yobs fighting says:

            You accidently posted your favourite search there dopey.
            Don’t worry, there’s no shame in you admitting you’re a bit thick.
            Everyone else will have come to that conclusion by now.

            Still waiting for an answer but I can see you’re still busy trying to understand the question by looking up the difficult words.

            You can add confounded, imbecile and delfecting to the list for yourself.

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          • 13eastie (117 days: Goodbye, ☭ordon) says:

            Defintion of delfecting [sic].

            FAIL

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          • Nothing Dignified about a media clusterfuck a nutter or yobs fighting says:

            Thanks for proving my point thickboy.

            Of course if you had an I.Q. higher than an earthworm you would have realised that highlighting a typo was particularly stupid when you yourself tried to quote Goodwins Law. You massive tit.

            Look it up and see what you get and while you’re at it look up what deflecting actually MEANS because you were also braindead enough to highlight a word while being so colossally fuckwitted as to engage in the very practice the word defines.

            Sadly for you it won’t work.

            We know you’re just some spotty National Front loving kiddy twat with your repeated use of the word fail, but try to concentrate and see if you can actually answer the question instead of all this embarrassing pathetic flailing around thickboy.

            are you calling the residents of Wootton Basset ‘fascist сunt’ for not wanting the media, scumbag Choudray or NF/EDL yobs invading their town ?

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          • swing seat says:

            i think the mis-spelling in Goodwin may have been his point AC1

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          • AI says:

            13eastie (116 days: Goodbye, ☭ordon)
            said “Defintion”

            FAIL

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      • 358
        nell says:

        You are very right of course!! Wootton Bassett ‘s an old english town .

        It despises extremism whether that be NF, EDL or I4UK. They all have the same shallow aim – publicity for themselves. T

        They don’t give a toss about our troops fighting this desperate war in Afghanistan only inasmuch as they thnk they can use it for publicity for their own cause.

        gordeon is exactly the same!!

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        • 365
          barefootcontessa says:

          Remember the Afghans, they are dying too. I don’t think we would appreciate a foreign country/countries crawling all over England. Why are we in this war? Havn’t heard a good enough reason yet.

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          • WMD says:

            Plenty of people in Wootton Basset don’t agree with the war contessa.
            They are simply paying honour to the dead.
            The alternative would be hiding and ignoring the dead troops like unwanted statistics as Bush tried to do for so long.
            As long as stupid Politicians don’t try to abuse the residents dignified procession as jingoistic propaganda for war I suspect it will continue for many years to come sadly.

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          • nell says:

            That’s because there isn’t one!!

            But that’s no reason not to support our brave troops out there.

            gordon needs hanging drawing and quartering for putting our troops into the field without proper support !!!!

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          • revolting peasant says:

            All politicians that supported the war have blood on their hands.

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          • Should Bliar appear at the Iraq Inquiry or the Hague ? says:

            and all those politicians and people who continue to support the war will have blood on their hands

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          • revolting peasant says:

            And needless deaths on their conscience
            – if of course they have a conscience…

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    • 343
      Max says:

      as of 21.17 BBC News 24 updated now:

      Leicester 1 Ipswich 1

      [Can you spare a tenner?]

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    • 349
      Max says:

      BBC Online have just caught up and worked out a way of putting McDoom in a good light too; here it is:

      Earlier This Week Gordon Brown Said

      That’s me out of here.

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      • 356
        13eastie (116 days: Goodbye, ☭ordon) says:

        Al jabeeba: political wing of Labour terrorism.

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      • 361
        Moley says:

        That looks like a reasonable and impartial report.

        Credit where it’s due.

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        • 367
          13eastie (116 days: Goodbye, ☭ordon) says:

          Really?

          In which paragraph does it mention that islam4uk did actually attempt to stage the march?

          Or that Labour has repeatedly refused to ban its parent organisation, Al-Muhajiroun?

          What has suddenly changed since a few days ago, when Brown was impotent to act, save for an expression of ‘disgust’? Certainly the BBC is disinclined to tell you…

          Carry on dreaming…

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    • 432
      Max says:

      Crikey, went a bit mad on here didn’t it? I think the original point was “why no coverage?” and I agreed with that and did some more digging. If you go to the actual links I provided I think you will actually see a fair picture of what actually happened and get an impression of what may have happened (unproven as of last night).

      Forgetting all of the prejudices around the EDF types and the odd typo (fooks sake GF get a spell-checker on here) the locals’ voices are in these links for example see the comments via the local MSM and or link to the council pages, Facebook and elsewhere.

      I make no assumptions other than (a) something occured and it was more than was reported and (b) that the MSM is either so gagged, so lazy or so slow to react as to be useless in such circumstances.

      The latter is what concerns me greatly. And I believe that broadly it concerns us all which is why we spend time on here.

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      • 435
        Nothing Dignified about a media clusterfuck a nutter or yobs fighting says:

        What was clear was that the residents of Wootton Basset did not want their town invaded by two large factions of extremists causing chaos with a media circus filming their every move.

        Their wishes should be respected.
        Simple as that.

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  77. 275
    Max says:

    OT but are we all keeping an eye on the Save Gordon campaign on Facebook?

    Some excellent stuff on there and both pics and contents must be of great interest to m’learned friends, ho ho!

    How long before it’s taken down Mr F?

    Love the thread re “Dr Who actor supports Brown”; there are people on there cancelling their Dr Who vids! Great stuff, I love the “kids”. Sometimes.

    Apparently Tennant claims McDoom to be the “cleverest man in the room”; er, yes, as long as it is a room in his own imagination…

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  78. 276
    Gordon's favourite Butt Plug says:

    But loads of people on here said that Chowders plans were just for Publicity.

    If this is true, then it is another nail in Brown’s Political Coffin.

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  79. 277
    J Hari says:

    I look like a butch lesbian and have a huge chip on my shoulder. Thus a twat of the first order.

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  80. 285
    Roger Dodger says:

    Rod Liddle pleeeeeese

    Will shake things up good and proper.

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  81. 307
    Gonk says:

    I’ve always liked Rod Liddle.
    He smokes, drinks, swears, hates cctv and
    dislikes bossy people.
    He also seems brave and that’ll do for me Tommy.
    when you think of the way politicians have bullied
    there way through the last 10-15 years or so he
    should be able to be his own man.
    Lastly he hates Yasmin Alibhai Brown. Marvellous.

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    • 430

      He does hate AB – that’s reason enough to stick him in the job. The Indy is pretty shit though. It really takes something to out-smug the Guardian.

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  82. 324
    allan akhbar says:

    i heard choudary arrested in sainsbuy car park(probably seeking a donation from the leftie billionaire) at 16.05

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  83. 334
    Gordon's favourite Butt Plug says:

    Interesting point of view from an unemployed lawyer.

    His mobile number is on the bottom of the Press Release.

    http://www.islam4uk.com/current-affairs/uk-news/421–coming-soon–wootton-bassett-march

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  84. 336
    lol says:

    hey Guido

    it’s monday tomorrow, and weather permitting, all our little piggy mps will be back at work…..

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  85. 338
    caesars wife says:

    Doesnt it make you think fawkes that a funeral for the dead ree press would be anti democratic ?? I mean isnt technology convergence meaning less freedom ?? should have stuck with papers at least they make bog roll and keep yer fish&chips warm , I found it amusing that one extra use for Kindle suggested was that you could use it to hand write a note on the back !.

    soon be the flat battery press .

    Camerons marr interview was surprising in that he didnt get stuck into Darlings worthless no figures cuts annoucement , marrs air brush jibe was bit low , might as well have asked him if jordans cosmetic surgeon had done his ears . Ruins spoiler was very him , Liam Byrne looked like a man in need to dash off to the loo , slightly uncomfortable if you ask me .

    Camerons NHS direct has certainly been acknowledged that he knows what he is on about , very well recieved , some surprised to find out how much he had looked at it .

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  86. 366
    david says:

    If the Indy goes anti-EU I promise to buy it every day.

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  87. 377
    What big freeze and what salt shortage? says:

    This big freeze thingy and lack of gritting salt? How come I have just driven 500 miles North to South and only seen rain and wet salt laden spray ?

    Has the met office got it wrong again? I really think so , as yesterday they said I would encounter oh so strong Easterly winds and drifting powder snow. I do have to thank them for making the roads deserted though, more like a Christmas day experience.

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  88. 383
    Moley says:

    “Met Office Data will prove this is the warmest winter in living memory”

    the Met still asserts we are in the midst of an unusually warm winter — as one of its staffers sniffily protested in an internet posting to a newspaper last week: “This will be the warmest winter in living memory, the data has already been recorded. For your information, we take the highest 15 readings between November and March and then produce an average. As November was a very seasonally warm month, then all the data will come from those readings.”

    (Dominic Lawson, Mail Online.)

    What a waste of money.

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    • 387
      christy says:

      To Moley.
      Tut tut you bad boy,you can’t go calling our met experts like that,they do take their 15 readings in warm places you know.
      Other less braindead observers not singing to Liebours tune call it as it is,it’s f—–g winter.
      Australia are on the beach why,oh I forgot it’s their summer but they will I assure you have a winter.
      Ok I know I’m being flippant,but this AGW/CLIMATE crap being churned out by the politico’s is nauseating.
      The bloody planet will determine what we get and not a bunch of discredited paid for nutters who have the gall to masquerade as scientists,all I say is a pox on all of them.

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    • 396
      TOO FAR says:

      Ha Ha!!! Snowing in Madrid.

      Global warming. Of course It’s still happening. Fucking need a bit of warming in Sussex!
      The biggest political bullshit (almost) of our time!!!!!
      Hate greenies, vegies and Hillery Benn!

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    • 406
      AC1 says:

      Like all good 1984 followers The Met Office temperature readings were recorded in advance for the good of the party.

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    • 431
      sockpuppet #4 says:

      That news … appears to be an entry in a blog comments section.
      Is this supposed to be anything like an official statement?

      I could assert that I am a nuclear physicist at sellafield and I’ve just created gold via low temperature nuclear fusion in a cup-a-soup.

      Chicken with croutons if you must know.

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  89. 384
    christy says:

    Just looked at Sky showing Wooton Basset,lots of whites milling around on the street but no mention by Sky of just who they are.
    Shite reporting as usual,if they are EDL,please tell us,we are grown up you know.

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  90. 389
    Pissed off Ian says:

    I think I’d like to throw up. The thought of yet another wishy washy paper edited by D’Ancona and co.
    Guido, it’s becoming clear, you must be one of them.

    Jesus wept, don’t we have any proper politicians anymore. All these bleeding heart plonkers crowded together in the middle, whingeing and dishing other folks money out while they happily send proper people off to shoot the fuzzy wuzzies

    Cameron’s gonna look really stupid soon ’cause now Gordoom’s locked in the basement, it’ll only take Mandleslime and Darling to move slightly to the right and they’ll have outflanked Dave by getting to the right of him. He’ll really be in queer street then.

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  91. 390
    Troll hater says:

    Give it a rest you putrid heap of soft, smelly stinking shite.

    Like

  92. 392
    Pissed off Ian says:

    So nice to see such rational comment sail through the moderating system.

    I don’t suppose you would by any chance consider yourself racist, so perhaps you’d like to tell us which nationality of objective journalists you admire.

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  93. 394
    Willsteed says:

    Has the mental unelected and totally hated spastic gone yet?

    Please country, wake me up when ….

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  94. 397
    TOO FAR says:

    Who or what the fuck is that….. some pissed school kid trying to attract attention.
    Maybe some idiot who has eaten a rotton bit of pork, then had the shits, and so converted to islam!

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    • 399
      God I hate whingers says:

      Do you think he may be one of those prehistoric, backward thinking, holocaust denying, women hating, delusion, free loading brain washed muppets from the far east? or a spotty white middle classed, billy no mates, free loading, student trying to be with it? Either way the guy’s a as thick as pig poo!

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      • 425
        Anonymous says:

        no
        it was you posting under a different name
        because you were foaming at the mouth about journalists and the BBC/SKY not covering the National Front/EDL, again under a different name, further up. so you had a little B&P Nazi hissy fit against your favourite targets as a tantrum

        you really are pathetic
        and I doubt I’ll be the only person unimpressed by your sickening post

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    • 421
      Anonymous says:

      it’s 13eastie (116 days: Goodbye, ☭ordon)

      Like

  95. 404
    AC1 says:

    http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2010/01/09/upset-in-the-making-brown-leads-coakley-in-ma-sen-poll/

    A poll where Brown leads.

    Hehe Different Brown. I nearly had a heart attack thinking of Gordo winning.

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  96. 405
    Nanziboy Nicky's Gay Lover Martin Webster talks of Bullyramming Nick till he was bong-eyed says:

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    • 412
      The hypocritical left says:

      Are you trying to tell us you are a homophobic bigot?

      Even if this were true and not just made up nonsense by a secret service employee, do you actually have a point to make that concerns anyone other than the person you mention?

      You must try harder in future as you are looking like an ass.

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      • 416
        you're nicked chum says:

        yep, it was delusional Nazi Scum that posted that repulsive anti-semitic rant
        childishly easy to out them

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  97. 424
    Anonymous says:

    That ain’t TaT you disgusting shitsmear and Guido will know it ain’t TaT
    I hope you don’t have any plans to keep posting here as that insane bile is going to follow you around for quite some time and cost you

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  98. 427
    albacore says:

    What percentage of the UK population, excluding incestuous media luvvies, gives a damn about editorial musical chairs at The Independent?
    If the whole Fourth Estate shebang can cartwheel into three-wise-monkeys mode and bypass whatever did happen at Wootton Bassett yesterday, we’d be better off consulting the local village idiot for enlightenment.
    Come on, Fawkes, you’re in with the In-Crowd, give it to us straight and shame the devil.
    Let’s hear the soft patter of a snowstorm of scales falling from the eyes of your vaunted legions of followers.

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  99. 437
    Beth says:

    What an appalling idea. Guido, with all the ruthlessness of a hedgefunder, is not content with MOST of the print world supporting the tories; he is GREEDY for more.

    We already have the Times, Telegraph,Sun, Mail, Spectator and Murdoch who worship the big money cheats and the city while expressing horror and disgust at little cheats like MPs.

    Now Guido wants the Indie as well! Hasn’t he ANY sense of fairness? Can’t we just have a non-aligned newspaper? I find this quite appalling, especially when I read some of the language, thoughts and attitudes of tories on this blog. Ugggh! Very nasty party.

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