December 2nd, 2009

PMQs Live-Chat : Saving the World Edition

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Gordon Brown made the same (erroneous) claim Will Straw made yesterday, namely that in recession Spain is in the G20.  Almost as if they were working from the same (fictional) script…

UPDATE : The Wall Street Journal’s Iain Martin also noticed Gordon’s fib, Tory Bear too.  Brillo spotted the same mistake on the Daily PoliticsBritain chairs the G20 this year, maybe Shriti can rename it the G21?


254 Comments

  1. 1
    Tankboy says:

    Spain, G20, “Renee” Witherspoon

    He has lost the plot – but we all knew that anyway

    • 26
      Hang The Bastards says:

      Even my 12 year old new that Spain wasnt in the G20 ! mind you he is publically educated.

      Brown you are a fucking idiot !

    • 73
      Anonymous says:

      Hate to say it but Brown gave Dave a bit of a spanking on PMQ’s.

      • 90
        Sir Trev Skint MP says:

        We OEs like a bit of spanking

      • 95
        Get A Life says:

        Dave is ex public school. He is used to it. But you are right; Brown refered to him as a PR man and that’s the quinticential truth. Camerooooooooooon is the same lightweight content free zone that was Bliar. He couldn’t even show 1% of the balls mad Maggie had on an off day.

        by teh by, here is what the G20 web site says about membership and it doesn’t include the word Spain

        Membership

        The G-20 is made up of the finance ministers and central bank governors of 19 countries:

        Argentina
        Australia
        Brazil
        Canada
        China
        France
        Germany
        India
        Indonesia
        Italy
        Japan
        Mexico
        Russia
        Saudi Arabia
        South Africa
        South Korea
        Turkey
        United Kingdom
        United States of America

        The European Union, who is represented by the rotating Council presidency and the European Central Bank, is the 20th member of the G-20. To ensure global economic fora and institutions work together, the Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the President of the World Bank, plus the chairs of the International Monetary and Financial Committee and Development Committee of the IMF and World Bank, also participate in G-20 meetings on an ex-officio basis. The G-20 thus brings together important industrial and emerging-market countries from all regions of the world. Together, member countries represent around 90 per cent of global gross national product, 80 per cent of world trade (including EU intra-trade) as well as two-thirds of the world’s population. The G-20′s economic weight and broad membership gives it a high degree of legitimacy and influence over the management of the global economy and financial system.

        • 132
          Steve Expat says:

          Spain, the Netherlands and Poland in the top 20 GDP but not the G20

          Saudi Arabia and South Africa in the G20 but not the top 20 chart, probably as regional leaders. the EU is also in the G20, they’re not even a country!

          Either way Broon was wrong. DC apologised for his mistake last week, will Gordoom do the same this week?

        • 152
          Mr Ned says:

          So what you are saying Master Baiter is that the G20 is made up of forty seven nations? With four of those forty seven nations having two seats each?

          Welcome to new labour mathematics 101!

          Spain is NOT in the G20. The EU is not in the G20 to solely represent Spain either, it is there, alongside the IMF, the world bank as a major economic block to represent itself.

          After all, the EU is as close to being a country in its own right as is possible.

        • 176
          jgm2 says:

          Oh do stop lying MB. Spain is only in the G20 in the same sense that California or Texas is in the G20.

          Brown might just as well have said ‘California is still in recession’ to try and hide the fact that uniquely, in the G20, the UK is still in recession. As a direct result of the preceeding 12 years of his own, personal economic fuckwittery.

          Brown is a liar. Stop lying for the liar Brown.

        • 194
          jgm2 says:

          Stop repeating the lies of the lying liar.

        • 234
          Nasty Liebore says:

          So Spain’s even more fucked. I wonder if its run by lefties.

      • 102
        thick as pigshit labour voter says:

        I agree – I especially liked the way he kept pointing out that Cameron went to Eton. I learned in diversity class that eton is racist.

        • 233
          Brown shite says:

          No 114 Eton is not racist, but bad spelling and punctuation shows how little improved you are – could do better – keep voting Labour dear heart – they’ll knight you for services to the oarty!

      • 108
        Master Baiter says:

        Brown looked as medicated and moronic as ever on PMQs.

        That’s all folks.

        • 129
          what's in a name says:

          You do know its the ‘combover’ that shows up when you post under your many different names?

          I know you like it but only you use it.
          Like Gordon’s shadow-shadow chancellor. It won’t catch on.

        • 185
          A small boy in the crowd says:

          A question from the Honourable Labour Member for Hove praising the invention of surgical optical implants by one of her constituents stood out from the baying hounds on the Government benches. A foreshadowing of retirement due to failing eyesight?

          Other planted questions allowed Brown to namecheck the Very Important People’s shindig coming up in Denmark the following week.

          Hans Christian Andersen was a Dane, so it would be very fitting for someone to point out that our Emperor’s finery (got up at great expense from the finest tailor in the land) consists of nothing more than a conspiracy of flatterers.

          The Warmists have got no clothes!

        • 228
          Anonymous says:

          His accent has gone Scot again, och aye!

        • 231
          Brown shite says:

          What’s up with Master baiter all of a sudden – had a conversion on the road to the ballot box have we?

      • 127

        I thought you were banned? Or was it just an Asbo?

      • 171
        Spank Sinatra says:

        Call that a spanking?

      • 225
        Brown shite says:

        oh pleeeeeeze – Gordon Brown never mentions that darling Bliar went to the Scottish equivalent of Eton [Fettes] and a lot of the labour tossers are/have sent their children to public/private schools. Labour are lying hypocritical bastards.

      • 237
        CHIPPY says:

        BEING AN ETON BOY I BET HE LOVED IT.

        • 252
          malone says:

          So at PMQ’s in answer to a backbencher’s question Brown praised me in my capacity as a Consultant Ophthalmic Surgeon and then dammed me for the school I went to. So where do I stand Gordon? How many blind people do I have to restore sight to or lives to save before I can redeem myself? Cretin.

          • Anonymous says:

            Blind yourself and then, perhaps, we may consider you to be redeemed. Otherwise piss off back to Normandy, useless parasite.

  2. 2
    The IMF is coming says:

    Brain Cox on politics show, stirring up the class war.

    Labour cabinet full privately educated people. Nonce

    • 10
      Sukyspook says:

      Is it me (!?) or are all zanuliebore supporters completely blind, deaf and dumb as to what their beloved party has done to this country??

      • 103
        L Fansafety says:

        Harman
        Straw
        Darling
        Balls
        etc etc
        non arguement

      • 104
        13eastie: (155 Days: "Good-bye, Gordon"!) says:

        “The last few elections have been about aspiration.
        The next few will be about survival.”

        So how is Zanulab going to make a manifesto out of a vague desire that, in spite of the truly appalling state of everything Brown has touched, perhaps not all voters will actually die under a prospective ZNL Govt?

        • 153
          well known tory female MP says:

          Nepotism has been given a bad name…

        • 156
          Mr Ned says:

          That applies equally to labour as it does the tories. Both are full of corrupt millionaires.

        • 161
          Fiscal Prolapse says:

          If MSM allow a discussion of nepotism it is ZaNuLiebore and the Unions that will be the most discraced

        • 190
          Engineer says:

          Labour have a high proportion of troughers who have never made a penny except by sucking at the nipple of public funds, isn’t it?

      • 188
        A small boy in the crowd says:

        Yup: the Full Tommy. Deaf dumb blind (but not gifted at playing pinball).

    • 11
      Tankboy says:

      Can’t stand these Champagne Socialist media types – they all love to support the plight of the working classes from their Malibu Beach Houses and Beverly Hills Mansions

      • 133
        The Ape man commeth says:

        Labour has always claimed to love the people, but it only loves it’s idea of the people, whether their described as working class, proletariat, underclass, the masses, they are the primary pool of sacrificial victims for state/Capitals engine. Labour has never protected the working class despite its protestations and legislations to the contrary.

    • 13
      genghiz the kahn says:

      On the Daily Politics, John Hutton, MP stayed very quiet about going to Westcliffe County High School. Is it because it was a Grammar School?

      At least, his generation of State educated children had the chance to get to Magdalen College Oxford.

    • 15
      Tankboy says:

      Poor Brian – it must be rough watching the plight of the “working man” from his Malibu Beach House.

      Heart bleeds for the dour miserable “bleep” – person

      • 64
        I B Seldom-Lucid says:

        The poor old boy says we should have nationalised education in ’47. It was nationalised Brian you dimwit. What our society had not become was so oppressed that nobody was free to opt out of state education. There are few things as pathetic as a millionaire Marxist. Perhaps he is overwhelmed with guilt that he managed to climb out of the shit hole that is Dundee while others remain to puke in the streets in broad daylight.

        I wish my Dad had been a toff and sent me to Eton. I am bloody glad that the ‘bog standard’ state education was sufficient to teach me to a standard that has enabled me to make a good living. However, that was in the 50s and 60s. My kids have not been so lucky so now its ‘Thank God’ for scholarships – provided largely by rich and successful people, many of whom were, er, public school educated toffs.

    • 21
      Geordie Girl says:

      Brian Cox’s son Alan (also an actor apparently) was, according to Wikipedia, educated at St Paul’s School, London. How’s that for hypocricy. They make me f***ing sick.

    • 195
      Bri says:

      Brian Cox, the guy that started his spiel by saying “I come back to England every 6 months or so…..” So is he non-domiciled as Brillo was trying to make out Zac Goldsmith was?

      • 212
        Delicious Della says:

        See Brillo’s had his pad dyed again.

        He used to have black hair before he went bald and then he put on a blacky bluey brillo pad thing.

        Now it’s brown. Last week it was some sort of ginger. How the fuck did that ugly Huhne ever get a gig on TV.

        And why doesn’t he get a proper hairpiece, like Michael Fabricant.

        Is it cos he’s a tight Scotch git?

  3. 3
    Call a General Election NOW! says:

    FIRST ! Woo-hoo…

  4. 5
    Anonymouse says:

    Will he writing to apologise for getting it wrong? Whoops forgot; GoBro never makes a mistake.

    • 22
      Gawdon Browne says:

      I am writng to ve huuse to apologies fur mistakenly sying thta Spane was in the Gee2

      • 99
        Anonymous says:

        Lol

        • 140
          Dick the Prick says:

          You really are a 3rd testicle arencha – the sort of dangly irrelevant bollock that serves no purpose in the inbreed’s scrotal sack of your semi-bovine litter.

        • 142

          So Israel is a part of Europe because it’s allowed in the Eurovision song contest?
          Swansea is an English town because they play in the English football league?

          You KNOW – yes even you – you well know that the only reason that dullard you write for included Spain was to pretend that the UK was not the only G20 country still in recession.
          it was a bit of good old nuLabour spin.
          If he can’t admit to the truth then he can just make another truth.

        • 173
          Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

          Spain is in Spain?

        • 186
          Mr Ned says:

          Yes MB, Spain is the 47th member of the G20!

          You fuckwit!

      • 238
        Brown shite says:

        Your apology on behalf of McShite was brilliant – I’m still laughing – you should write something for that knob Master baiter – he really does need to lighten up!

  5. 6
    Grumpy Bloke says:

    It would have nice to have heard something about the proposed Scottish referendum and our independence FROM Scotland in general and Broon’s socialist ideals in particular…

    • 36
      Nick says:

      Get rid of the Scotch ASAP & goad the Welsh into a referendum immediately afterwards!

      • 57
        DaemonBarber says:

        What’s wrong with Scotch? I love a glass of a good single-malt.

      • 247
        Anonymous says:

        Couldn’t an independent Scotland provide an open invitation for all those in the rest of Britain who want to live in a Socialist Dystop…sorry Utopia, an opportunity to come and live in Scotland where they can all live happily ever after so that the rest of us can get on with our lives, safe in the knowlege that our country will not be trashed by a bunch of thieving champagne socialists ever again?

  6. 7
    gone fuckin mental says:

    Guido what was the result of the sencond poll ? my pc crashed wanted to add my vote to its bollocks .

  7. 8
    Al Lane says:

    Brown’s jibe about Cameron “The more he talks, the less he says” was great though. I liked that and it merits being repeated frequently.

    • 16
      Pyscho Nurse says:

      said the mentally retarded twat from his padded cell

    • 114
      13eastie: (155 Days: "Good-bye, Gordon"!) says:

      Yes it was highly original (he’s very, very witty).

      And it was not in any way an example of Brown choosing to waste PMQ time talking complete shit rather than trying answering a question.

      Or, to put it another way, trying to talk more while saying less.

      Brown = Сunt

      • 131
        Anonymous says:

        It was actually true.

        He was talking about Brown’s economic policy.

        Surprised Dave didn’t pick him up on that, although I think it was Dave’s last q.

      • 241
        CHIPPY says:

        I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT GORDON WAS ONE OF OUR WITTIEST POLITITIANS.HE APPEARS TO BE ONE OF OUR MORE SENSITIVE POLITITIANS TUNED INTO OUR EVERY NEED.

    • 208
      Father Abraham says:

      Think Gordo lifted that one from the Talking Heads’ Pyscho Killer “You’re talking a lot but you’re not saying anything”. Thought he was more of an ELO man myself.

    • 240
      Grumpy Bloke says:

      … a bit rich coming from the man who evades every question. It must be the right thing to do!

  8. 9

    my blog has childish drawing and commnets on the labour leadership race but i hope you like it. http://political-graffiti.blogspot.com/

    How can Andy Burn them be lining himself up? By the time he has finished as health secretary we will all be dead. Maybe its just tories he is killing off.

    Ed Balls – His best hope is that no one can read a ballot paper

    and the others well harperson, postman pat and milibland . what a choice!!

    • 20
      Doris says:

      Andy Burman is an idiot – thick and stupid. You only have to listen to him speak to realise he’s not the sharpest tool in the box.
      But then labour believe in ‘dumbing down’ so who better to lead the labour party of the future? A dumbed down nerd.

  9. 14
    Sukyspook says:

    St Oma…Osa….sorry, Obama lying to get elected:

  10. 17
    Freudian Slip says:

    Brown called President Obama “President Banana”.May we say he trod on an Obama skin.

    • 18
      The IMF is coming says:

      Shadow Shadow Chancellor. or was it a joke

      • 24
        Rick the Roman says:

        I think he’s referring to Ken Clarke – jibe at Osbourne

        • 28
          Faux Fighters says:

          I thought you’d been redacted?

        • 32
          The IMF is coming says:

          It was a delivery then

        • 109
          nurse says:

          It’s happening as we speak. See ya MB, wouldn’t wanna be ya!

        • 201
          A small boy in the crowd says:

          If I had to sit in front of a pack of baying Hoons, psychopharmalogical assistance would be a rational choice. From the sound they made, it seemed as if the old soaks had been whipped into the Chamber directly from the bar.

          Cameron’s repeated references to ‘marginal seats’ must have reminded a lot of them that Annie’s cut-price Bar had just called last orders on them.

          And why was Brown flanked by two no-mark junior ministers this week?

          It all seemed very odd…

  11. 19
    Tankboy says:

    I wonder if the rest of the reporting press will pick up on this G20 mistake

    Can’t see Toenails saying much

  12. 23
    Master Baiter says:

    Gord is great, Peter is his prophet, and Ed wipes his bottom for him.

    Isn’t it?

    • 149

      The New Labour Creed

      I believe in Tony the Father Almighty,
      Saviour of heaven and earth:
      {Just 16 days left but Gordon will manage to sort it all out somehow.}

      And in Gordon his only unwanted Son of the Manse

      Our Gord,
      Who was conceived by the Unholy host, Lord Peter
      Born of the Virgin Harriet,
      Suffered with his Moral Compass,
      Was crucified, dead, and buried in the opinion polls
      He descended into the bunker;
      The third day he relaunched again from the dead;
      He ascended into Europe, and embraced climate change as a new religion
      And we all now sitteth on the right hand of Gord the Father Almighty;
      From thence he shall come to fudge and trick and make us misled.

      I believe in the Holy Ghost;
      The holy multi-cultural Church;
      The Communion of personal restraints;
      The Forgiveness of spins;
      The Resurrection of the reputation,{anyone can come back in this government..}
      And the Lie everlasting.

      Amen.

      • 243
        Brown shite says:

        Brilliant Bill Quango – effing brilliant [just like to give praise where praise is due]

  13. 25
    Z says:

    This is what happens increasingly more often in Comrade Brown’s police state Britain:

    “Photographer questioned by police under anti-terror laws… for taking ‘too many’ pictures of town centre Christmas lights”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1232513/Photographer-taking-pictures-Christmas-lights-questioned-police-anti-terror-laws.html#ixzz0YXJdU3TO

  14. 27

    Was the Spanish inclusion in the G20 in left foot forwards rant yesterday also ?

    Looks like a common script of what to think is needed for all socialists to deal with their deficiency in the independent thought area.

    • 80
      The UK is becoming East Germany circa 1976 says:

      They all e-mail each other with talking points and groupthink responses.

      Yes they are THAT thick.

      • 144
        Lurker says:

        and 15% inflation, mass unemployment and a crashing construction sector.
        About 12 months ahead of UK I’d say

        • 216
          Mr Ned says:

          With a left wing labour government… Spot a pattern?

          And it is NOT in the G20!

        • 223
          Australian says:

          Of course it is in recession, you prat – it has a Socialist Scum Government just like the UK !

          Spain is not, however, a member of the G20, so stop your pathetic little lies.

    • 111
      new labour big brother says:

      Spain is in the g20
      Spain has always been in the g20

      • 178
        Do it to JULIA! says:

        Workers rejoice! The glorious leader has increased your weekly chocolate ration from 60g from 70g!

        • 180
          Winston can't type says:

          I fucked that up good and proper. Bastard keyboard!

          Workers rejoice! The glorious leader has increased your weekly chocolate ration to 60g from 70g!

  15. 29
    No pasaran!! says:

    Gordo sure wiped the smile off Eton tory boy Cameron today. Non dom Eton boy Zac fuckt in Richmond marginal.

    Polls looking crap for Cameron too.

    Even Dale realises the game’s up.

    • 39
      labour brain dead nonce says:

      Wow, Labour are streaking to a 10 point deficit in the polls. Yippee!

      • 45
        Eton mess says:

        Labour has an inbuilt 5% lead, so Cameron is only 5% ahead.

        In a crisis of this magnitude, that’s nothing.

        Blair was averaging 20% ahead at this stage, with no economic crisis.

        All the numbers men know it’s bad for Cameron, very bad. You’ll see them fall out and implode from here on in.

      • 47
        thick as thieves says:

        the rapid nature of the albeit completely fucking inane rebuttals from masterbaiter are sufficient proof that my judgment is correct.
        masterbaiter is a fucking tory troll. paid to post.

    • 40
      Eton mess says:

      The polls are looking very bad for Cameron.

      If they can’t win this, they’ll never win anything.

    • 42
      Al says:

      The better the polls get for Labour, the more the pound drops and the gilt market begins to freeze.

      If Labour got within 5% of the Tories in a series of polls this would trigger a run on the pound, a gilt buyers strike, and bankruptcy for the UK.

      The economy is only being kept afloat because the financial markets expect a Tory landslide. If that prospect disappears then all hell will be let loose.

      • 70
        Eton mess says:

        The markets haven’t feared a Labour victory since 1997.

        The markets will respond to the economy. If, as expected, we emerge to growth in December’s numbers, then Brown is home and dry. Cameron is finished, and they know it.

        • 92
          The UK is becoming East Germany circa 1976 says:

          “The markets haven’t feared a Labour victory since 1997.”

          LOL, Brown has changed all that, single handedly too. Yay, big up McDoom!

          • Eton mess says:

            That’s right. It’s down to Brown that a Labour victory didn’t impact the markets.

            The markets will be more worried about an inexperienced Tory victory. The Tory policies were quite simply wrong and their inexperience showed.

            Only clueless Tories are blaming Brown for the recession. Recessions are a function of markets.

        • 115
          dfs says:

          Call an election…..

          • Eton mess says:

            OK.

            After the December numbers come out.

          • jgm2 says:

            You reckon borrowing and squandering 200bn will buy a single quarter of ‘growth’? What ‘growth’ are you predicting for the cost of 3.25% of GDP in a single quarter?

            0.0%?
            0.1%?

            That’s not very good is it? You borrow 3.25% of GDP in a single quarter to generate 0.1% of growth?

            That’s fucking nuts.

        • 244
          CHIPPY says:

          BACK TO GROWTH IN DECEMBER.WELL BY THE TIME JONAH HAS FIDDLED THE FIGURES PERHAPS DECEMBER 2015 WOULD BE NEARER.OH! I FORGOT BROWN THINKS BEING IN DEPT FOR 2 TRILLION WITH 8 MILLION ON THE DOLE.THAT BEING WITHOUT THE OTHER DISASTERS HE HAS HIDDEN WILL BE GOOD NEWS.IF THIS LOT GET BACK IN THE 1930s SLUMP WILL BE LIKE A PICNIC.

    • 51
      Sir Trev Skint MP says:

      You are Reese Witherspoon and I claim my €5

  16. 30
    Prof Phil 'my boots' Jones says:

    The world is going to fry because of global warming……….only kiddin’.

  17. 31
    Jimmy says:

    Spaingate!

    The words “barrel” and “scrape” spring to mind.

    • 54
      thick as thieves says:

      oh right, now you have been exposed as a tory fifth columnist you have to start attacking david cameron to pretend you are not.
      oh what a tangled web masterbaiter.
      but you are wasting your time, everybody knows you are a tory troll who is paid to post.

      • 75
        junta says:

        “The words “barrel” and “scrape” spring to mind.”

        No Jimmy, that’s what we’ll all be doing if Labour get in again, unlikely as that may be.

    • 60
      Master Baiter says:

      Unleash our dole hordes.

      See, twelve years of falling social mobility and failed education policy have left us with many foot soldiers.

      Hahahaha

    • 65
      Anonymous says:

      Tell Brown to hold an election, and then we’ll believe all this polling nonsense.

      Is that the sound of tumbleweed blowing in the wind?

    • 116
      L Fansafety says:

      Pathfindergate

    • 130
      Engineer says:

      No more boom and – er, oh shit.

    • 191
      jgm2 says:

      I admit that comparing the UK economy to Spain is indeed barrel scraping. Why not compare us with the Irish, Latvian and Estonian economies too. After all they’re in the G20 in the same sense as Spain is.

  18. 34
    Eton mess says:

    For fuxake.

    Now Murdoch wants to copyright the news.

    Unless you’ve subscribed to the original feed, you can’t discuss it.

    New World Order, here we come…

    • 59
      Sir Trev Skint MP says:

      Feck other peoples news, make your own its cheaper

    • 122
      Steve Expat says:

      He’s obviously missed the fact that he’s now competing with Guido and friends – they can make money from “free” news supported by advertising, or does he think that the media need to follow the music industry in pissing off on their best customers??

    • 192
      The Webmaster of Warwick says:

      And why would I want to drive website traffic to Murder Doc?

      I’m not going to add comments on his news websites to give him some content for google to spider!

  19. 35
    straight from the horse's mouth says:

    The plan at the highest echelons of the Conservative Party is to throw the next election.

    They don’t want to win, what would be, a poisoned chalice, wherein they would incur the wrath of the public for having to take heavy measures to try to clear up the appalling mess that Brown has left.

    Tory strategists figure quite rightly that another Labour govt or a Lib/Lab coalition would survive for no more than 6 months during which time the international markets would unleash a storm over Britain of unprecedented proportions.

    This would force another election in which a chastened and frightened electorate would return the Tories with a huge majority. They could then go on to impose the austerity measures which are desperately required and which the markets demand.

    • 43
      thick as thieves says:

      go easy on the superskunk.

    • 48
      Anonymous says:

      Just because you’re losing (it)

    • 55
      Nick says:

      Vote Labour – get IMF!

      Savour the irony of NuLab having to axe state spending on benefits to their client voters to comply with the IMF… once the rioting stops the country can elect a government that will rebuild the nation’s finances (and give voters a referendum about leaving Europe).

      • 245
        Rip Van Winkle says:

        Spot on. And it’s the best thing that can happen. Let the whole world see what a complete prick Brown is.. and what a disaster he made of the UK economy in 10 short years.

    • 58
      Faux Fighters says:

      A logical analysis,but six more months of this madness and there may not be an economy left to revive.
      Perhaps it’s as it seems. Cameron is a weak,ineffectual chancer who doesn’t have the balls or any real answers to any subject above maximising his income.

    • 62
      Anonymous says:

      I’m sure there is a measure of truth in that….

    • 68
      L Fansafety says:

      Would they let Brown carry on?What would Labour do? Would they carry on spending and hope for inflation led growth? They would have to make savage cuts. They would have to join the euro as sterling would be worthless. We would be HP7 instead of AAA. Strikes? IMF?

      It does sound like a good policy to let Brown reap what he has harvested

      • 77
        Faux Fighters says:

        Apart from the small error in that we are the ones to reap Brown’s harvest.

      • 86
        Al says:

        There will be no “inflation-led growth” only massive stagflation on a scale far larger than the seventies, though this time there will be no big pay rises just pay cuts and crashing living standards.

        There is no easy way out of the mess Brown has made.

    • 83
      Sir Trev Skint MP says:

      You would have to be a complete twat to want to win the next election. Nick Clegg is in the best position in politics.

      • 136
        Engineer says:

        No, he’s not. I am. Nice comfy chair, mug of tea, no political responsibilities bar wondering where to put my ‘X’ at the next election, and free to make almost any comment I choose. (Downside is that I don’t get anything from the trough, I just get to top it up once the political classes have gorged themselves.)

    • 157
      stilyagi_air_corps says:

      Been reading up, lately, on the end of the Cromwells’ Commonwealth, which was the last time this usually quite sensible country found itself ruled for 13 years by agenda-driven, millennium-crazed, out of their depth puritans on a Mission. as Cilla Black would say, there’s a lorra, lorra parallels between our times. The Royalists were split between the Action Party of Prince Rupert, which favoured all out, desperate attack on all ideological and military front, and Lord Hyde’s Sealed Knot faction, who figured that the suffering, disorientated, and thoroughly hacked-off populace were best left to ‘bottom out’ before finally coming to their senses and volounterily welcoming back the King. Essentially, Hyde viewed the Puritan enthusiasm as a national fever, that had to be allowed to burn, then smoulder itself out before sanity – and fun – could return to these shores.

      Gordon, BTW, is Queen Dick.

    • 198
      The Pieman of Preston says:

      “Tory strategists figure quite rightly…”

      Are these the same strategists that expected a Tory Victory with Hague in charge?

      Are these the same strategists that expected a Tory Victory with Smith in charge?

      Are these the same strategists that expected a Tory Victory with Howard in charge?

      Jog on matey, these so-called strategists from all sides of the fence are totally out of touch with the electorate. They might as well flip a coin and lift a finger into the breeze.

  20. 50
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Nobody expects the Spanish G20 inclusion

    • 202
      Not the Inquisition says:

      The Spanish G20 Inclusion = financial misconduct

      Did you see what I did there?

  21. 52
    Anonymous says:

    Off topic but worth highlighting (though why only the Guardian picked it up I don’t know?) but that Hoon Martin was at it again yesterday. Talk about brass neck!!

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2009/dec/01/michael-martin-mps-inquiries-old-allegations

  22. 53
    Anonymous says:

    Was it just me or was it a lot more “personal” from Gordy today. I actually found his performance a little odd to be honest.

    “Eton” this and “Eton” that.

    Then blatantly taking the pi$$ out of Clegg about Obama being pleased that Clegg endorsed his speech. Actually thought Broon was out of order belittling someone like that. I think he did it again later to someone else.

    Have to say I thought Brown looked like a medicated man. He seemed to be laughing and gurning a lot which (and I’m serious here) was like the behaviour of someone mad.

    It was as if he thought he was winning and some sort of superior being. He actually embarrassed himself.

    Anyone else think the same?

    Same old shit from Brown though…..but

    • 63
      Nick says:

      Why won’t someone release Helium into the chamber at the start of next week’s PMQs – a manic, squeaking Brown could be the tonic this country needs right now…

    • 68
      Master Baiter says:

      You’re analysis is correct. Gordon is a medicated monster who does and says what his spin goons tell him to.

      Issn’t it, though.

      • 85
        dfs says:

        2 trillion in debt…..didn’t we do well?

      • 124
        Anonymous says:

        Is this where Balls said “The funding for the extremist group didn’t come from our anti-terror budget – it came from another of our budgets” and thought he’d won?

        You can do better than that baiter!

        I mean this with all sincerity (unusual on here sometimes); I thought Brown looked like a man on meds.

        The belittling of Clegg I actually didn’t like. It’s not often that personal attacks get up my nose, but that was a very poor response from Brown. Very playground.

        • 211
          rocknrolla says:

          Agreed – his personal attack on clegg was very poor, further showing gorgon’s ridiculous “I’m friends with obama” line… sure you are gordon, that’s why he ran through the kitchen to escape you.

          The man demeans the office of PM, coming after Major and Blair I suppose that is an achievement of sorts.

      • 166
        Anonymous says:

        Good to see your grasp of ZanuLab tactics there baiter. Don’t answer the question lol.

      • 221
        A small boy in the crowd says:

        Speaking as a fully qualified Therapist-with-a-Certificate-off-of-the-Internet, Brown’s behaviour is consistent that expected of an underprivileged child, grown into a man sworn to wreak vengeance upon all the boys and girls who -did- get the toys they wanted every Christmas.

        ‘Saving the world’ on behalf of all the disadvantaged of the planet is a recurrent fantasy; whether it is his vow to end child poverty (even if it comes at the price of having to redefine poverty so that there is always someone left to save), or keeping to the Warmist creed of Anthropogenic [man-made, in plain language] Global Warming.

        Man is sinful – and he must repent of his sins in order to be saved.

        Maybe Gordon is just another nutter who thinks that he is Jesus.

    • 74
      Anonymous says:

      He was very personal.

      What would Labour think if Dave took the piss out of say Prescotts background?

      It seems to be OK to bully a toff but not a chav.

    • 79
      MD says:

      They have reduced Brown’s dosage of largactil and increased the dosage of xanax.

      He is now as high as a kite and approaching cloud nine soon after which he will plummet back to earth with a bang.

      • 101
        genghiz the kahn says:

        Did anyone else notice the Dr Strangelove hand action, the left hand clamped over his right wrist?

        Its the old war wound, clamp, the old war wound.

    • 121
      rocknrolla says:

      Yes he’s a nasty and spiteful man – look at what was being planned by mcbride to see the kind of gutter politics brown will go to.

      he’s trying to sell off the country’s assets to save his neck. if it doesn’t work, next up will be a much more personal campaign.

    • 134
      The IMF is coming says:

      He was even odder today.
      Pleased with himself that Obama had taken a call from him. Best mates now!
      Mentioned him so many times. What a twat. Obama this, Obama that.

      Arrogance to belittle others because they are not in the ‘Obama gang’. He will get whats coming

      Worst PM ever

      • 151
        Anonymous says:

        Glad so many agree.

        The whole belittling thing about Obama/Clegg….couldn’t quite put my finger on why it bugged me so much.

        Thought about it.

        I don’t mind politicians jibing at each other, I don’t mind politicians using third parties (i.e. The IMF says your policies are sh!t or whatever), that’s politics.

        But Clegg was actually giving positive support to Obama’s speech (and let’s remember this is about a war the country is fighting).

        The tone of Brown’s response was effectively:
        “Do you think Obama gives a flying f*ck about you, you little man”.

        Which to me, is Brown. Not a politician, but a playground bully.

        • 158
          Anonymous says:

          Gordon is a Bully. Full stop.

          It is time Dave hammered these most obvious facts home. He also owes Clegg an apology and perhaps the speaker should chair more in situations like these.

          • jgm2 says:

            Outsiders would imagine us here on Order order to be unduly onfair on Brown when we mock him for chasing around after Obama and sometimes even I question whether it is actually possible that our PM is so vacuous and vain that he would belittle himself so much by scuttling around a hotel kitchen for a few words from his hero. But when you hear how he does indeed revel in the mere fact that Obama answers his phonecalls and gives it ner ner ner ner ner to those Obama can ignore it becomes clear that it is impossible to over-exagerrate the lack of dignity Brown has.

            Brown is contemptable.

            An arrogant jackass who has fucked this gountry for a generation and isnow revelling in the fact that the rest of us inmates have to sit here and watch him gurning in our face while he fuckwittedly fucks it up even more. He is resplendent in his idiocy. A Terry Fuckwitt amongst politicians.

        • 163
          jgm2 says:

          It can only be good if Brown makes it personal with Clegg. Clegg is a fucking dolt. This incompetent Labour jackass represents the best chance for eighty years that Clegg will have to become the party of the left and come second.

          But does he carpe the fucking diem? Does he fuck. Still off in his fantasy world that he’s going to form the next government with a majority. He’s got the gift that his party was against the Iraq war from the get-go. He should be banging on and on and on about that and stealing Labour voters. He’s got the BBC’s favourite economist-in-waiting, Vince Cable who would give them credibility on the economy so he could bang on and on about what kind of arsehole drove us into this recession and he’s got a whole slew of potentiallly lefty liberal policies he could be banging on about. But no.

          If there is some suspicion that Cameron doesn’t want to be PM from his abject failure to repeatedly stick the boot in on Brown there is no doubt at all that Clegg hasn’t a fucking clue how to even come second.

          • Anonymous says:

            Immaterial whether Clegg is a cock or not really.

            PM should not behave like that.

            It’s the behaviour of an attack dog.

          • jgm2 says:

            I can’t bear to watch PMQ or anything with the Maximum Imbecile in it because he just makes me puke but the sense I’m getting here is that Brown has revealed his nasty side to a wider audience. ‘Eton’ this, ‘millionaire’ that.

            That’s because that is all he has left. He has lost the argument. He has fucked the economy and it cannot be unfucked. We are unique in the G20 as still being in recession despite the biggest amount of borrowing and squandering in UK history. It is in plain view for all to see and so his only option now is to go for the core vote.

            Wrong on the economy.
            Wrong on ‘no boom and bust’
            Wrong on the housing crash.
            Wrong on the Iraq war.
            Wrong on every major policy decision of the last 12 years.

            He’s lost. He’s going for the Labour core vote. The Al Quaeda of Labour idiocy.

          • Anonymous says:

            Yeah, you’re pretty much right there jgm2. But surely you mean Alky Ada lol.

            It’s the dividing line now isn’t it?

            Tories are all toffs and LD’s are all insignificant.

            It’s just crass.

            Had Clegg said “Obama’s a twat” then I may have understood Brown’s response, but to have a dig just for the sake of it.

            Bearing in mind theoretically Clegg represents a party.

            Then Broon nearly spunks in his pants when some non-entity Lab backbencher asks him to comment om the success of the latest labour money wasting policy.

            It’s just wrong.

            As you say, the guy has no defence. He’s fucked everything.

      • 182
        The IMF is coming says:

        Worst PM ever
        Worst Government ever
        Worst case of brainwashing ever

        Cogitate. For once in your life realise that everything you have been told to think may not be true. Have your own thoughts and opinions. Your masters one concern is to stay in power whatever the consequences.

        • 205
          jgm2 says:

          And power for power’s sake. No grand vision beyond using taxpayers money to buy Labour votes and Labour ‘jobs’.

          Pure self-interest and self aggrondissement.

          An absolute jackass in a government of all the jackasses.

      • 246
        CHIPPY says:

        HAVING SAVED THE WORLD.HE HAS NOW MOVED ON TO GUIDING OBAMA THROUGH THIS DIFFICULT TIME.THE AFGHAN PRESIDENT IS NEXT IN LINE FOR GORDONS GUIDANCE AND WISDOM.THIS LEAVES HIM LITTLE TIME TO PUT THE UKs PROBLEMS RIGHT.PLEASE BE PATIENT.

    • 160
      Sir William Waad says:

      Brown can only carry one idea in his head at a time and this week it’s Eton. Everything else, Spain, the economy, etc., goes out-of-focus.

    • 224
      Mr Ned says:

      Yeah, it seems that labour have nothing left other than to fight using the dirty hate speech of prejudice.

      Attacking someone for there natural background is as bad as attacking them for the colour of their skin. People do not have a choice to be born to rich, or poor parents. It is an accident of birth as much as race is, or gender.

      For labour to stoop to prejudicial hate speech is unforgivable.

  23. 66
    Dack Blog says:

    Why is Gordo looking so chirpy? Have they upped the dose?

  24. 76
    Steak Pie says:

    Brown is merely another corpse falling out of the closet of socialism, not the first and won’t be the last.

  25. 78
    righty right wing (Mrs) says:

    Blue Labour- Red Labour – there will come a time when the English are sick to death of Labour & Tories.

    That day is rapidly approaching.

    Vote for anyone but the main three parties

  26. 82
    Argentum et aurum comparenda sunt says:

    I really do like Gold

  27. 89
    righty right wing (Mrs) says:

    I should thank McMental for the gold returns though – made some inroads into the other lossess caused by his massive fiscal incompetence.

  28. 93
    David and Dave says:

    Cameron’s climate change policies under fire as David Davis attacks ‘green fixation’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1232548/Climate-change-sceptics-control-debate-ahead-global-conference.html

    • 143
      anon anon anon....... says:

      We deniers need our own logo and / or flag.
      Guido how about a comp. Or are you going to mleave it ti Rich & Mark? ( or worse still OH?)

  29. 110
    michael says:

    he must have got the balance right…three little pink ones and two big red ones,michael.

  30. 123
    Is Eco Warrior Dave on his way out? says:

    Dave made the mistake of taking the piss out of Balls. The first time he did it in PMQs was funny, this second time just made one wince as Dave failed to make the joke work again.

    The PMQs was a complete turn around not only did Dave fail but Gordon actually did good. I would expect my Doctor to name all the bones in my hand just as I would expect the next PM to know the names of the Countries in the G20.

  31. 137
    Great Granddad says:

    I’m just waiting for McDoom to wish Spain the best of luck! That should sort ‘em out.

  32. 138

    O/T I know,

    but this kind of job might just dry up after the election

    http://hr.leeds.ac.uk/jobs/ViewJob.aspx?m=all&JId=785

  33. 145

    Look lets all pull together now. Things are looking up we have a new fight brewing with the frogs over that twotty midget thinking he runs the City. They are all so jealous of London as the worlds greatest financial centre (yes still).

    So now we need a surge against les grenuoille.

    Dont buy their wine or champagne for Chrsitmas
    Take their cheeses off the shelf in supermarkets and stamp on them.
    Remind Sarko that SIR Mick Jagger has fucked his wife

    • 193
      Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

      And the quality of life in France is 10 times better than in United Condom.

      And 15 times better in wonderful Belgium!

      All Hail van Rumpuy!

      I do not know about you lot pulling together, I would have thought that you are more likely to be pulling each other apart, for food.

      You are so deep in the shit that you will be eating each other before this is finished!

      Africa beckons!

      • 210
        Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

        Rock and Roll Moments no. 59

        Shepherds Bush muso posse gathered together to watch Rorer Daltry on the Beeb, early 90′s.

        One of the wive’s session musician hubby singing with Roger.

        One of the several women there says very proudly:
        ‘I have slept with Roger’

        Session musician’s wife says:
        ‘My dear, we have all slept with Roger’

  34. 155

    Sarko is gloating lets go to war with the French. Its almost as much as a General Election..

    We need the Sun to print some pics of Sir Mick Jagger shagging Sarko’s Mrs

    • 215
      Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

      If Cameroon was half the man that Sarko is, with half the determination, low cunning and brains, you lot would be looking forwards to the future!

      The French have a Finance Minister that can actually count!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  35. 159
    Engineer says:

    Cameron has a bit of a problem – how to keep Broon politically alive until the next election. Broon seems marginally more alert than Brezhnev in his latter days, but he has so many political holes below the waterline that it’s only concerted pumping by Mandelscum and Bunker Spin that keeps him afloat. Cameron has to judge his PMQ performances rather finely – hard enough to look convincing (hmm – not sure he succeeds) but soft enough not to cripple the Limp Fist permanently.

    Cameron is helped a bit by Labour’s indecisiveness in killing off Broon’s tenure as PM. They keep muttering and plotting, but never do the deed – suspect none of them really want the poisoned chalice.

    • 189
      Bouncing Czech says:

      Hmmm.

      So that’s why Cameron is becoming increasingly shit at PMQs, and not capitalising on the worst recession since the 1930s, eh?

      If that’s the best you can do Andy, I expect you’ll be back knocking on mad Bekah’s door sooner than you thought.

      And poor old Rupe, eh. Backing the wrong horse. There’s another empire on its last legs…

  36. 164
    Dave "Cast Iron Guarantee" Cameron says:

    I have had enough of politics and admit I was shit today at PMQ’s.

    Serves the Conservative Party right for electing an Old Etonian as their Leader.

    Anyone on this site fancy being leader of the Tories?????

  37. 183
    rocknrolla says:

    http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/5590783/a-pmqs-to-damage-brown.thtml

    At least someone sees what a total tit of himself the gorgon made today – of course he got labour mps cheering – but among voters, attacking cameron’s background and the fact that gorgon didn’t know who is in the g20 is likely to cost votes, especially in marginals.

    • 248
      Hooray Henry says:

      Absolutely. Brown’s a total twat. Real vote loser that one.

      Everyone loves Eton boys.

    • 249
      oik oik says:

      Me too.

      I was all set to vote for Brown but that G20 boob has put me right off him.

      It’s Tory toffs all the way for me now.

  38. 209
    Master Baiter says:

    My farts are very smelly.

    Hahahahaha

  39. 214
    Mr "New Labour Plant" Speaker says:

    The Prime Minister didn’t answer any questions? Well, pull my tangly bits and kick me out at the next General Election!

  40. 236
    Anonymous says:

    How many shadow benchers have butlers



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