Labour Looks in the Mirror and Knows It Has Lost
Guardianistas and the unpopular parts of the blogosphere are raging about the Sun’s full on assault on Brown and all things Labour. When Labour delegates were ripping up copies of The Sun on prime time TV what did they expect the response would be? There is a logical inconsistency about their rage; on the one hand they said the Sun wasn’t important and on the other hand they froth about it almost continuously. That they keep on repeating the mantra that it isn’t really important tells you it is really hurting and they fear it. The Mirror is an avowedly Labour supporting paper whereas The Sun is the biggest swing-vote paper, and it has swung decisively to the Tories. That is why Bad Al Campbell and the rest of the Labour spin operation are bleeding so badly over the Sun’s shift…
This morning’s reporting of Brown’s conversation with Mrs Janes was a good news story, news is after all what people don’t want you to hear, the rest is spin. The left is now in full on “Murdoch is evil” mode, Fox and the Sun will be characterised as liars. They will take presenters like Glenn Beck and columnists like the great Kelvin MacKenzie and make out that this is biased news – it isn’t, it is opinionated infotainment. Audiences like that, it is provocative and entertaining, Jon Stewart and Polly Toynbee do the same thing from the other side.
Murdoch does not have a monopoly on bias, the BBC and the Mirror are not exactly objective – though only the BBC pretends to impartiality. Look at the Mirror and every day you see made up news, not just opinionated comment. If you think the Currant Bun is tough on Gordon here is a selection of recent Mirror headlines resulting from a site-search for “Cameron”:
Cameron Choker, Cheap Cameron, Confused Cameron, Slippery Cameron, Bad Joke Cameron, Big Guns Turn on Cameron, David Cameron: Cheesy And Sleazy, England – It’s the Curse of Cameron (bloody hell, Kevin Maguire’s nicked the idea of a political leader who is a sporting jinx) and Cameron’s Credit Crunch Christmas.
The Mirror is no different from the Sun, yet you don’t hear the Tories whinging about it…
Hopefully for ever!!
Make sure this time don’t make the same mistake as before and let them survive even slightly.
“yet you don’t hear the Tories whinging about it…”
Haaahahahahahhahahahaha!
so you don’t read this blog or the amusing vitriol aimed at McGuire do you Guido ?
McGuire is a source of derision, not whingeing.
We’ve got Brown’s number:
http://www.westbournemouthukip.com/toons/toons.htm
AlJaBeeba have been in full Sun-bashing mode since the paper’s volte face with regard to ZaNuLiebour.
Strange how Auntie feels the need to preface the word “Sun” or any associated journalists with the words “Tory supporting”, but feel no need to apply the same standards to the Mirror, its journalists or the numerous sycophantic guardianistas that litter its news and current affairs output.
For Labour to complain about the Sun’s coverage just misses the whole point about the government’s woeful record in supporting the military. The Sun are telling the story in a way that is a: accessible to their readers and b: gets the issues of Brown’s betrayal out into the open.
http://cogitodexter.wordpress.com/2009/11/10/complaining-about-the-suns-janes-coverage-misses-the-point/
Great piece of deflection By the BUM, I mean Sun. Or Red Top or to name it by its real Title SHIT. How in fucks name can we be diverted from the issues of the day by a smmelling I mean Speelling mistake. Just shows who is really runnig the country. I hope Gordon hasn’t mentioned retreating from Afghanistan, Oh I thought so, The sooner we get the Cameron Knacker in he will spend a bit more in that Shit hole and Skin the country a bit more. That Smack has not half greased some palms with the Billions getting made from its prohibition.
Fellow socialists.Im affraid the wheels are falling
off
MI6, , I hereby invite you to join us!!-People like you we like!You are doing more than we ever could to destroy your country.
We know of your secret desires to formally join our organisation-but take it from me Comrade, you can and have done more damage from where you are Tovaritch.
Dasvidanya,
Boris
Da svidanya
It’s fucking amusing watching Toilets and his ilk twisting in the wind though.
Err, Guido does media critiques so taking the piss out of Maguire and indeed Maguire taking the piss out of Guido is par for the course.
Maguire is still after the job of Gordon Brown’s chief spin-doctor.
The sad, pathetic piece of fake-Geordie crap.
So given the length of time the job as the PM’s spin doctor is likely to last I guess we can now describe ‘toilets’ as
a Kama-”Kharzi” pilot !!
Ok, I’ll get me coat……
Is he? I’d love to see him get it!!!!!
maguire and gordon the world’s best vote losing combination.
The Labour leader is the ‘breath of fresh air’ that Britain needs, the editorial says. The Tories are ‘tired, divided and rudderless’ and no longer deserve support.
The paper declares: ‘This is the election for the millennium. In six weeks’ time, Britain will vote for a government to take it into the 21st century.
‘The people need a leader with vision, purpose and courage who can inspire them and fire their imaginations. The Sun believes that man is Tony Blair.’
Editor Stuart Higgins said last night: ‘This is not a decision we have taken lightly. We consider Mr Blair has all the qualities of leadership required to take this great country forward.
Will that be true in 6 months time though…
How does a Geordie become a Fake Geordie?
Maguire on ‘Have I got News for you’ recently hardly said a word, simply couldn’t be witty. Just laughed in a fake way at everybody elses’ jokes. He was absolutely useless, they won’t be inviting him again in a hurry.
Talk about a dead man walking………..This getting extremely nauseating to watch.
Go as soon as you can for your own sake Gordon.
It’s all a set up that backfired, allegedly…
http://rantinrab.blogspot.com/2009/11/just-one-more-postlettergate.html
I watched Kevin Maguire on last Friday’s HIGNFY expecting some funny “witticisms”(he was on Ian Hislop’s Team) and frankly – unless the BBC edited him heavily – he barely spoke 3 words.He was totally overshadowed by Hislop,Noble and Merton. Not up to Kevin’s usual standards even given some of the topics aimed at the Tories
The Left’s reaction to the Sun endorsement is like watching the five stages of loss. Like Ms Janes, they’re currently at anger.
and now Dave has the exact same thing to look forward to in a few months
for 5 years
The Tories are a bunch of hypocrites.Cameron will tonight unveil his plan for tackling poverty but there is no real heart in his policies.He has one eye on winning and the other eye on Murdoch.The Poor will have to fend for themselves with Cameron’s mixture of private provision and charity.The Workhouse here we come.
At least Cameron has two eyes.
DON’T FEED THE TROLL!
and a freakshow forehead
Beneath contempt ,mocking the partially sighted.
I’m only mocking one eyed jock mong’s who live in Downing Street and sends hundreds of soldiers off to be killed or blown up and not provide them with the right kit, steal back their compensation and then pretend he cares.
Broon’s coming round on the blind side – Meddlebum’s trying an up and under. The rest of the government are lying on the ball – an obvious invitation for a good kicking!
No it’s not. You’ve got a lot to learn.
They thinks it’s all over well? …it is now!
This is straight out of the Zanuliebore manual for trolls – you are meant to put it into your own words.
Why is the language beneath your understanding and as for the pathetic allusion to Zimbabwe it is not even fresh or clever.
the truth never is fresh, but it is clever and has a habit of cropping up alot.
Is it coz we is blicks?
Ooh! I do hope that the workhouse comes back, that will sort out those idle welfare bludgers. It would be particularly suitable for teenage mums.
Though that would be stealing a labour policy from their conference. No shame in that, but leave the door open when you go mr brown.
Oh! And labour stole it from mr griffens party too, I wonder which of their other policies will magpie brown take on.
As long as it is self-sufficient, it could be a roll-model for what to do with the soon-to-be unemployed millions
Poverties got worse and bankers richer under no boom or bust brown
AKA Mandy’s plan.
The poor will have to fend for themselves?? Ohhh, diddumms widdums!
The last 12 years that Britain’s chav filth have spent being parasitic scum are coming to an inglorious end, and the wretched little shits that constitute Britain’s sponger class will have to stand on their own two feet or be dragged into the grave that Brown, in his utter incompetence, has dug for them. God, I feel soooo sorry for the little morons. Not.
As Lenin once said, “a man who does not work shall not eat.”
Let the parasitic Benefits Brigade starve to death in their squalid little council flats, surrounded by the Dolby Surround Sound Systems that workers have had to buy them. Like Lenin, I have no pity.
And don’t forget the £50 a pop at the local premiership game and the pints of lager before and after the match.
Yeah, and Jonah’s done a tremendous job for the poor hasnt he?
Man you are so full of shit, I dont know how you can still breathe.
Guido says amd he is CORRECT
“though only the BBC does pretend to impartiality
Now that is the biggest sin of the lot at least the Sun and Mirror are honest about their bias.
A very odd thing occured on PM this evening. The Top of the programme played part of the taped telecon between Gordon and Mrs Janes but the content of the programme featured an actor voicing Gordon for “legal reasons”. It was the same part of the interview, so perhaps they messed up the intro but I somehow doubt it.
You’re shitting me. Voice of an actor ‘for legal reasons..’. Maybe they’ve re-enacted that legislation they had when Martin McGuiness et al had to be voiced over to deprive IRA terrorists of the oxygen of publicity.
In Brown’s case that makes solid sense.
The BBC have been stating all day that because Gordon did not know his phone call was recorded then they can not broadcast his recorded words but have to use an actor to say them.
I kid you not.
they did use Brown’s own voice for the intro but not the feature
perhaps number 10 had a quick call round after they heard the intro ?
It is nothing to do with normal peoples laws: It is the broadcasting code of conduct:
“If at a later stage it becomes clear that a call that has been recorded will be broadcast (but this was not explained to the other party at the time of the call) then the broadcaster must obtain consent before broadcast from the other party, unless it is warranted not to do so.”
So keep on recording.
Challenge for a virtual bottle of your choice: Where in RIPA does it say that you can not disclose to a third party a recording made using private equipment of a phone conversation. I can not find it. It seems it is misunderstanding of the restrictions of other intercepts.
The weird part is: How did he get the phone number or address?
Under the DPA the personal data has been used for a purpose outside the original intent. It is given as a contact for the army in the case of emergencies.
DPA: “(2) For the purposes of this Act each government department shall be treated as a person separate from any other government department.”
Unless there is an exclusion I missed, that allows crazy PMs to try and dig themselves out of a holes by annoying people on Sunday nights, there is no way he should have contacted her. A letter forwarded by the army would be correct.
Glenn Beck is on a news network, and John Stewart is on a comedy network …
Yes, but Jon Stewart reports the news, while Glenn Beck hosts a comedy show. I don’t hear anyone slagging off Stewart for mission creep.
One has to Question why Gordon was cold calling Mrs Janes at 10 O’clock on a Sunday night. If he really was intimately concerned about the death of her son then he has had a month to phone her but within hours of hearing that the Sun was publishing his ill scrawled letter he was on the blower to Mrs Janes. Surely that is Political?
What was Gordon doing slapping her down verbally? The woman has lost her son and yet the bully boy PM thinks he can ring people up and abuse them.
Its not me – its you.
I wish he’d ring me up, all i get is indian call centres.
we get a lot of wrong numbers who want curry.
Dad said William Hague is gay
True!
Hmmm. The choice of “name” say it all.
Charlie Whelan has organised the this weeks mass trolling of websites like the Daily Mail. (and today’s onslaught on The Sun) He has a team of full time staff posting pro-Brown messages constantly under different aliases.
Eventually someone at the Mail (or The Sun) will investigate and then it will all blow up in Brown’s face.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1226278/Jacqui-Janes-Mother-dead-soldier-confronts-Brown-letter-errors-equipment-shortages-astonishing-13-minute-phone-call.html
Whelan. Always puts me in mind of Robert Newton – a fine actor who had so much more to give. Sadly not as stout in liver or heart as Whelan.
Charlie Whelan is a slimy, cynical, burnt-out pice of shit who hates people.
Just the type of specimen that Gordon Brown likes to have working for him.
Whelan east turds and sucks cocks, just look at his face. He was on the BBC this morning going on about how some right wing people put the rumour about that one eye was a shirt lifter. What so that story about Brown and Mandy being caught together isn’t true then?
Sorry Fred, I didn’t make myself clear. I’d be hugely pleased had Newton’s career come to a natural conclusion and Whelan’s not.
Why are New Labour shit? Because they aarrrrr.
Pieces of shit! Pieces of shit! AARK!
I don’t find that at all surprising – the pro-Gordon comment has been huge.
Almost everyone I know who listened to the tape was against him. I assume most didn’t.
FD,
You’re right, there on was one on here today called “Duncan”
HAHAHA
BIT PARANOID AND INCORRECT.
BACK OF THE DETECTIVE QUEUE FOR YOU.
Yes, all pro-brown comments have single named commenters with first lowercase letter… not hard to pay people to come out with that.
What is worrying is the sudden skewing of the green/red arrows.
Either there is loads from the same IP which means the mail could easily discount them, or they are doing something dodgy to either fool people to clicking it (I guess you could put the particular URL in an IFRAME on your blog) … or are using botnets to do it.
Unless they are actually getting hundreds of the unemployed (or indian call centre workers?) to actually click it.
It’s easy enough to do I’m afraid.
The only way round it is to ask people to register. It’s not that you can’t fake lots of registry entries but if they’re tied to emails then that would be a real pain for the SOB’s to just write and run.
Look at voting on youtube, you register, you’re allowed to rate any given video once and once only.
Wonder how much they pay these drones per hour to click on little green arrows for posts in support of Brown and little red ones crticising him ?
Labour have been true to their word on one thing though, they did promie transparent Government and we can certainlky see right through them.
As for Charlie Wheelan, he’s the man who has made a career out of being Gordon Browns “ex” spin Doctor. Listen fatty we know you have never left his employ so why dont you fuck off back to the bunker where you belong !!!
CWhelan is no doubt using funds from UNITE paid in by poorly paid hardworking staff about whom he doesn’t give a toss.
It appears I have mistakenly mispelled Fattie Wheelans name. Some might say that shows disrespect well….ex- fucking- actly !!!!
surely we can use freedom of information to find out how much tax money is being wasted on the stooges – every site i visit regularly has been taken over during the last 24 hours by posts/clicks/comments whatever all totally supportive of the great leader, mcbust himself. bad enough if the labour party did it themselves but i know the bastards will make the taxpayer foot the bill.
Whelan – DT 13.4 2009
He resurfaced in 2007 with a new job at the top of the labour movement, working for Unite, the country’s biggest union. As political director of Unite, Mr Whelan’s precise duties are nebulous, but he controls a large budget and staff of press officers and public affairs specialists, giving him considerable political clout.
Few are in any doubt that that influence is used to benefit his former employer at least as much as his current one.
The revelation that Mr Whelan was privy to discussions about setting up the Red Rag website will only strengthen suspicions that he remains very much an active part of Mr Brown’s inner circle.
Fat boy is so far up Browns inner circle that he brushes his teeth in the morning !!!!
Unite
watch those manufacturing jobs disappear !
a union which takes the money but does nothing for its members.
It’s a spelling mistake. It should be “Untie”.
No manufacturer in the country lets a union within loudhailer distance of the gates in this day and age. Unite and GMB and all those other fucking dinosaurs are only good for taking money off public sector workers and using their monopoly positions to screw more money out of the taxpayer.
Look at that wanker Bob Crowe when they were shutting down that wind-turbine factory ‘Comrades…’
It’s the bloody 1970’s all over again with those jackasses. They’re absolutely spoiling for a fight with a Tory government just to finally finally get their revenge on Margaret Thatcher. Never mind that she’s been out of power for 20 years. This is the union equivilent of exhuming Cromwell and flogging his corpse.
The other 60 million of us are mere spectators while these jackasses work through their personal vendettas.
Bob Crowe’s a former railway track repairer (if ever there was a job that required a gargantuan intellect, Bob’s wasn’t it) and self-confessed Communist (sorry, Bob, did 1989 pass you by?) with no academic qualifications and who can’t pronounce the letter T when it sits in the middle of a word (“we’ll ba’er them Tory ‘eds togevuh, Comrades! Def to Fatchuh! *dribble* *dribble* *licky window*” etc.)
Sad. But not quite as sad as the wanking little farts who are members of ‘his’ union.
YOU CRUDE TORY TOFFS.LOOK WHAT NU/OLD LABOUR AND UNIONS HAVE DONE FOR THE TOILERS OF THIS NATION.WE CAN NOW WORK UNTIL WE ARE 90.OUR PENSIONS ARE IN TATTERS PLUS THE ADDED BONUS OF SHIT WAGES.GORDON WAS ONLY TELLING US YESTERDAY HOW GREAT IT WAS TO LIVE IN A WONDERFULL DEMOCRACY.I THINK HE MEANT HYPOCRACY.
It would be lovely to live in a Democracy – Australia’s got one.
Not here in Britain – after all – which of the ‘electorate’ get to vote on the EU President? Or the Council of Ministers?
Democracy – that’s the one thing that Labour don’t want – it’s more like Communism!
I have *met* Charlie Whelan. He is a sweaty, arrogant, ignorant, boorish cocksucker. Really quite sweaty. I mean, okay, it was a small radio studio on a warm day, but there was a very unpleasant bitter tang coming off the man. It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest to see his hand in this astroturfing
So does this fucker Brown think it is acceptable to undermine democracy by subverting a free press? Does anyone know any Human Rights lawyers? Surely you could make a case in Europe if you could gather hard evidence.
oh do calm down ladies.
yes, it is true, charlie whelan sweats like a fucking rapist.
and yes, he is behind today’s frantic new labour troll activity.
but I have seen these trolls come and I have seen them go, they are part timers, lightweights with no stamina. I myself have crushed the skulls of many dozens of new labour war party trolls and normally they run away from the great thick as thieves because they are scared of him. but today they have been hunting like packs of dogs and they have all been working their fucking nuts and c’unts off trying to protect the utterly utterly useless lying c’unt, gordon brown.
what a waste of time innit.
brown’s a dead man it matters not how many trolls charlie whelan employs with union funds to protect the dead man, he is still a dead man.
they are defending a political corpse.
charlie always was a dopey c’unt though.
charlie whelan is total fucking spastic. just like his master, gordon ‘bullshit’ brown.
what a pair of wankers.
TAT could you please show Mr Wheelan some respect he is after all you’re boss and paying your wages to spout Labour propaganda and anti Tory bile all over this blog.
I am top boy you dope.
therefore I am boss.
now get back in your fucking wheelchair cripple before top boy gives you a good fucking slap.
you silly slag.
Erm. Cherie Blair?
Sorry there is a postal dispute so ’slotgob’ is sealed for the duration
What a relief!
p.s. How much to make it permanent?
Brown’s office in damage limitation mode. Full pelt!
You’re right. Interviewed on the Today show Mandlebum has just mentioned the weight of emails (posts) supporting Brown on the BBC, Sun and Sky websites. This confirms that NuLab top brass have got their people reading the blogs and would suggest, that they are actively posting NuLab material on them. You need only read their sloppy efforts on here – the Master Baiters of this world refer – to pick up on this.
Just a little bit pathetic – where’s the great thundering Guido gone?
Oh yeah, he just taggs along on others coat tails
Fuck off Whelan. Get back to trolling The Sun, fat boy.
yeah the dead tree press is where it’s at
fuck off while we stick our head up Murdochs arse
‘dead tree press repaste’ = full-time, taxpayer funded, Labour stooge employed by Brown and Whelan to troll websites.
Brown and Whelan are ignorant pustules on the face of UK Politics and their incompetent blundering will be spoken of in hushed disbelieving tones for years henceforth
they are cun’ts
twatty NuLiebore cun’ts
the idea that Murdoch must be subject to universal groveling praise and if you don’t jump on the badwagon you must be Labour is, admittedly, childish fuckwittery
but you DO seem to be a childish fuckwit
Cocksucker
So, who’s going to break the Mirror and collect the seven years bad luck?
Ok!
I’ll do it because given the fact we have just had 12 years of bad luck I think I’ll risk another mere seven which cannot be any near as bad.
I wonder if Gordon could be invited to visit the Mirror offices? It would demonstrate the Mirror’s faith in him – but do they really want to take that particular risk with Jonah?
Labour keep whinging about The Sun because they are lead by a deranged, self-obsessed, sociopath (Brown) who is full of self-pity and whose monstrous ego can not stand even the merest trace of criticism.
Brown is severely damaged goods who is taking this country on to the rocks.
Watching Brown at the cenotaph I really was not sure whether he was going to lay the wreath or just top himself on the spot. I cannot remember another PM off hand that looked as bad as that.
I somehow imagined he would throw the wreath like a hoopla and piss off on a motorcycle, just my impression.
Did you see the sociopathic fucker at today’s press conference? The makeup was caked on, presumably to make him look healthy. He looked like the Tango man.
Funny I thought exactly the same and what was with the dress sense very funerial I thought. Given the afghan death toll not surprising I suppose, but my hope was he would be going to his own funeral.
hear fucking hear.
slightly grumpy i was 200 words into a post saying pretty much the same in a rather more long winded fashion though. oh well.
Do keep up FFS
Six more months of this kind of shit to go!? Groan.
Yes, it’s painful for all of us.
Seriously. There’s no debate on issues left. It’s all just tribal mudslinging from here on in. They said! He said! Nah nah ner nah nah!
Truly, we get what we deserve [holds head in hands]….
Six more months?! Ha how about 60 more years? What with President Blair in EU and a Conservative leader who has wholly accepted the left-wing agenda even if we let the peasants have their say next year it won’t matter. And I stress even if we let them. I will be proposing some emergency legislation, given the economic crisis which was started by the white conservatives in america, to postpone the election. it’s the right thing to do. oppose me and the bbc will smear you as a racist.
It’s obvious from reading the comments after that story in the D. Mail about Brown’s call to Mr’s Janes that Labour apparatchiks have organised a campaign of mass posting under different names.
What I want to know is, are the people doing the posting doing it direct from Labour Party HQ or 10, Downing St and, are they being paid from the public purse for this dishonesty and propagandising?
I don’t know if it’s technically possible, but perhaps The Sun could run a story of how so many pro Brown comments seemed to be coming from the same IP addresses.
I don’t think it can come from the same IP address. When you vote thats it you can’t red/ green arrow again. This is as I mentioned before seems to be either a multiple number involved with different IP’s or somehow they have been able to beat the single IP address block.
No expert so I not a clue but was surprised to see so many supporting Brown when I know on the street they think his actions are appalling. Ho hum!
Yes it can, well not same ip address but same computer as long as it doesn’t have a fixed ip address, after voting just reset the router/modem and you will have a new ip address try it out at:-
http://whatismyipaddress.com/
I have a fixed ip address and it will allow new arrows, but you have to leave it a while between clicks.
The Brown operation will be sophisticated enough to ensure they are spoofing IP addresses, and their system will allow each user to work with multiple personalities across many media channels.
There are traffic analysis techniques that could be deployed by the Mail etc to identify stories which are being astroturfed. It’s also possible to analyse text to identify which posts are likely being made by the same individual. The easy way to do this, though, is for the Telegraph to offer 50K to first intern to come forward with hard evidence. The Telegraph gets a story to rival expensegate and we hire a lawyer to sue the corrupt Labour motherfuckers. Mandy, are you reading this? I’d be a worried chump, lmfao!
99.99% of floating voters in key-marginals do not look at the Daily Mail web-site. Taxpayers money being wasted by Zanu again!!!
Ted Heath & co organised letters in support of the EEC (now EU). What Brown’s ’supporters’ are doing is likewise fraud, pure and simple.
I was driving around Suffolk listening to Jeremy Vine discussing the Gords PR cock up, and he read out e-mails from listeners. All of them, and I mean all of them, said The Sun was bad, Mrs Janes was wrong and Gord was a great guy doing his job, writing personal letters and we should leave him alone. I have met NOONE in the real world who says this. GB’s letter was appalling, badly written and looked as though he scralled this off in a hurry because someone had said it was good PR to do so. This may not have been the case, but anyone with a brain can see why Mrs Jane thought they way she did.
Over on the BBC’s site loads of bloggers are trying to smear Mrs Janes, and defend the Gord. I agree this is an obvious concerted attack and we suspect is organised by the socialists
Whelan is a dangerous and possibly evil and dishonest git
Article Number One in the marxist-socialist (liebour version 1.0) handbook of infiltration and state subversion : Control the media.
Strawshit just got his shonky law on holding coroners hearings in secret through the house, that effectively ends any more awkward moments with Mrs Janes or future Charles de Menezes.
Oh. Shit. AARK!
Mr Vine is an irritating squeaky excitable scare-mongering shit stirring twat of a creature,little better than Jeremy Kyle. People that ring in to his show are mostly dolies,mumsies or OAPs. His next story was – Leaf blowers – should they be banned? FFS get a life cretin.
Aww…diddums, they don’t like bully boy Brown getting some of his own medicine kicked back at him do they, the thin skinned twats?
They have been dishing it out for 12 years and more, but strangely they can’t take it when it’s coming the other way. They have had this coming for a very long time, and I for one am enjoying it immensely. No longer are the NuLiebour bully-boys calling the shots. No longer are they controlling the press by threats and smears. The game is up. Rejoice at that news!
Labour hate the Sun because it is read by people who want to improve life for themselves and their families. The Mirror is more for people who want somebody to live their life for them.
Research has shown that The Mirror is the favourite rag of welfare recipients and immigrants, ie Labour voters.
The Mirror sniveled all over its front page when Honecker kicked the bucket.
The Mirror= Robert Maxwell
Sums it up really
HUGE WOBBLING TITS AND BINGO!
I bet that’s where Gordon scores all his Headington Hills.
Handrails for your boat?
£4.99 from B&Q
Being buried near Shirley Pauper…….Priceless!
“HUGE WOBBLING TITS AND BINGO!”
And lot’s of lovely jubbly swing voters. Cor, look at the votes on her!
Q:What’s 8″ long, brown and cylindrical and goes “pppzzzzzzzhhhhh”?
A:Robert Maxwell’s cigar
I used to work in a maximum security prison some years ago (really). The prison “canteen” records showed that the most widely bought newspaper on the normal wings was The Sun. On the nonce wings it was The Guardian :-(
Ugh why target poor immigrants,they can read anything they want . Lots of them are professionals in their own countries and would not stoop to read the scummy Sun.
And many of them cant even read or write English
我再发出了。
Really? According to the EU 95% of all immigrants into the EU are poorly educated and unskilled.
Google it fool, jeez ZaNuLab cannot even get intelligent trolls.
This is wonderland. The Sun is not even a newspaper. As for its readers being aspirational,no demographic study will verify that. Sun readers are the pits.
I only buy it to keep abreast of events
Snob
Knob
gee Jack what a swell life
are you one of the Waltons ?
maybe you should speak to Porky Pig MP, he’s logged off just as you logged on.
Night all!
Er thicko it’s made of paper and has news in it and also it has the largest sales of all the red tops !that must really hurt you mirror/ guardian types other wise you wouldn’t scream so nicely !.
Ah the children of the right what sweet music they make!.
What She meant is that news is secondary to gossip,scandal and breasts. Therefore it is not a newspaper per se.
The Guardianistas LOATHE that the Daily Mail outsells it.
Doesn’t everything outsell the Grauniad?
Erm no, the Indy has even worse sales figures than the Grauniad.
Nobody wants to buy, what the left are trying to sell.
Ouch! I bet that stings after nearly 13 years of non stop leftist propaganda.
Did anyone see Kevin Maguire on last Friday’s ‘Have I got news for you’ ?
What an absolute hoot he was …………………..Not.
Evidently can’t make a two word sentance unless it has Toff and Eton in it.
Agreed he looked totally out of his depth, shrugging his shoulders in an affectation of a laugh when he clearly didn’t understand the jokes.
He was fucking useless. A tub of lard would have contributed more to proceedings.
Get the fuck off the tv Maguire you thick socialist cnut.
He is a joke and the tub of lard was supposed to be Hattersley remember the missing panellist
Yup. Paul Merton still won that week. Classic.
The ‘Mirror’ is the one which the ugly princess Toilets Maguire looks into and which squawks back ‘Who’s a fucking ugly boy, then!’.
Did you see Mrs Janes interview just now? An honest lady and non political. She does not and will not even vote at elections.
How could that moron ring up a grieving mother at 10pm to argue with her?
He is despicable beyond belief.
He is carrying Labour to the depths of disgusting behavior never seen before in British politics. It will be the end of Labour. For ever. Rest in Hell.
Brown phoned Mrs Janes to try to intimidate, her just like he tried to ’stare out’ and intimidate that young girl last week who challenged him over her father’s murder by scumbags.
Brown hates women and seeks to frighten and control them. Just ask Glenys Kinnock and Yvette Cooper. They could tell you things about him that would make your hair curl.
The only thing I would ask Glynnis Kinnock now you mention her is Where did all your principles go when you and your husband where troughing like fuck at Brussells ?
On reflection Id ask her another question namely…and what was the real story behind your recent appointment into the Cabinet and what have you actually done in that portfolio ??
Last reports (2 or 3 weeks ago) said that she had been moved to other post. Can’t remember quite where I saw that but I think it was some African portfolio. No doubt she will still get a big payoff from the job she never did and would have been totally useless at anyway.
Meanwhile on planet earth as opposed to planet EU….
Glynys Kinnock and Yvette Cooper make my hair – and my toe-nails – curl.
No he didn’t phone her to intimidate her.Do sound as if there is some truth in your biased allegations.He phoned because he wanted to speak to her about his spelling errors.He is patently a good man,be fair.
He’s pondlife.
Pondlife is productive and beneficial to the environment,quite a compliment that.
Hastings Jo = Labour troll paid from taxpayers funds to post Brownite crap across the internet.
come on JG, be fair to Hastings Jo
But 10pm FFS? Who calls a stranger at that hour to discuss their dead son?
good???????????????????????????
man??????????????????????????????
fair????????????????????????????????????
Finally Mc5YrOld’s famous reverse midas touch is coming back to its maker. Yay.
Presumably – thinking about this – it would have first started in earnest in adolescence and been responsible for the jessification, a massive chip on the shoulder, and the overweening sense of entitlement.
If Damien McBride had still been working for the one eyed jock mong he probably would have threatened her, that’s how these jock bastards work.
Yep. I wonder how it feels for Gordoom to get a taste of his own medicine from Murdoch?
BBC HYS full of the Politbureau comments with anything too critical censored…
I posted a comment against Brown very early on HYS being very careful not to say anything too offensive, knowing how sensitive they are.
Why am I not surprised that it hasn’t been published.
Impartial my arse!
Obama is not a twat.
Flag Waver – Red Flag waver.
No–he is the socialist shite scum of the Earth and a twat as well
Some of the Army guys can always wait outside the gates of Finchley School for McBride and bury him in a field off the A1.
whats the address? i aint got nothing to lose by beating the twat up.
She did ok on Newsnight with Paxo
Different newspapers are entitled to different opinions and buyers are entitled to buy whichever paper(s) that suit them. This is the free market in action: nobody is forced to buy the Sun or the Grauniad.
The BBC is another matter entirely because it is wholly subsidised by a poll tax, even applicable if you don’t want to watch the BBC at all. The BBC claims the impossible: impartiality. Better to break it up, sell it off and make the bits pay to view. Then at least liberals will not have to support a monopoly statist cheerleader like the BBC.
No just take the beeboids out one by one and execute them, put it on Sky Box Office as well. £9.99, worth every fucking penny.
I’d pay 99.99 for that
each shot!
cool we can call it “the x f”cker”!.
Actually, I think Gordon has come out of this OK. I think most people recognise that he was genuinely trying to offer a modicum of sympathy and support.
I do feel desperately sorry for the family involved who I think will come to see all this as a time when they were used by the right wing press in a rather shabby game of ‘let’s try and stick some more dirt on Gordon’. Grief does terrible things to some people – and the way that the press have shamelessly exploited this woman is beneath contempt.
No froth – just despair that politics has come to this.
Jack = another Labour stooge paid out of public funds to troll websites posting comments favourable to the odious Brown.
Why do you all assume that anyone who supports Labour on this site is paid to do so.You are so wrong. Many people blog on here to counteract the poisonous,unilateral pro TORY GARBAGE ON THIS BLOG SITE.
Flag Waver = Jack = Labour troll
I’m a troll and so’s my wife!
I she a goer wink wink no what I mean ?
Jack=just another confused kunt
Jack is clea
You forgot to say, “I don’t support Gordon Brown but…………”
You forgot to say, “I don’t think everyone is a Labour plant but…………”
Same Cocksucker or a different one? Not sure, but a Cocksucker nonetheless.
I am not sure why you think ‘cocksucker’ is a term of abuse – but I don’t – as it happens.
really ?
try using it more in your day to day conversation.
Meet your customers with the line ” what’s up cocksucker ? ”
please video and post on this web site.
I suck Murdoch and wavy Davy’s cock all the time
that’s a cast iron guarantee!
MB are you on overtime tonight ?
Jack doesn’t have customers, he is a fully salaried minion of Brown. Paid for by us taxpayers no doubt.
A shitforbrains like him would never survive if he had to actually deal with a customer. The mere thought of operating in the private sector would cause his head to explode.
It’s going to be such a glorious day next year when all these vermin are suddenly unemployed and unemployable.
Jack does work in the private sector as well as the public sector – and does OK – thank you.
Jack has customers – lots as it happens – my business is doing well.
Ah, a diversity awareness training consultant!
Customers!!!!…….don’t be ridiculous. That would be like working.
nope guess again – and my name is not Rumpelstiltskin either!!
cocksucker?
So it’s alright for Gordon to exploit it (and lie about it) but the the lady must keep quiet? Presumably Gordon knows where she lives? You evil little moron.
And we know where the evil Brown lives – he just has bigger gates at the end of HIS drive.
Still,not impregnable.
“Still,not impregnable”
Yup! has to wave a ‘turkey baster’ in front of the IR before He comes inside
Fuck off Brown doesn’t give a shit about dead soldiers. That fucking one eyed jock mong will probably send the families bills for the repair to the body armour that he had to buy because all those soldiers were fucking whining about being shot and not having kit. He could have given that money to pram faced fat bitches on council estates to breed yet more fucking Labour voters.
I look forward to Dave trying to emulate Blairs paper thin acting skills in emoting and pretending he gives a shit about dead soldiers while keeping them in the slaughterhouse for five more years
Brown being a cun’t hardly means Dave isn’t a cun’t either
Yeah. Whatever you say. Jack.
If Toenails is right, and the MOD is finally taking urgent action with the Treasury to bring forward the purchase of more Chinooks as a result of her searing public criticisms of lack of helicopters and equipment, the lady will have achieved more than the General Staff, Media and Opposition put together.
Watch out for the next bit of spin, though – I’ll bet that the hastily requested report into her son’s death will say that he could not have been saved by the availability of a helicopter, whatever the truth of the matter.
After I had stopped laughing at your comment I remembered Brown sent the guy to is death without proper protection, argued with her on a phone and has now been on the BBC World news apologising.
Of course the BBC are emphasing strongly that the mother had accepted the apology and lined up a load of NuLab simpletons to say ahhh poor PM. BBC also just pointed our with stopping the film report with click of camera photo taking noise) that he is being scrutinised in every word he said. Funny that seemed not to happen with Cameron or anyone else.
They have now stated in this news broadcast on BBC world and I quote:
” We are not broadcasting Browns conversation AS IT WAS RECORDED WITHOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE?”. Hahahahahahahaha so they won’t repeat his conversation for that reason but will record our emails/ calls conversaions etc and repest then at their own convenience. That quote should be recorded and repeated everytime these guys even go near the subject. Proof enough this government has to be thrown out along with the BBC.
FUCK YOU BROWN by sending the guys and girls our there without the protection you are responsible and they still loose their lives. You Hoon!
Got to the point when it’s the woman who’s apologising to the gorgon!
I don’t believe in anything I read in any newspaper any more. I get my news all on-line from a variety of very varied and interesting free sources. The quality and up-to-date-ness of online news is vastly superior to anything newspaper based. And the red-top don’t even come into it. They’re basically comics about trashy celebs, thier tits,TV details and horoscopes. No one with any brain at all would read them. Online is the only way to go.
Fuck off Whelan.
Well said Whelan is another ex beeboid turd sniffer.
‘thier tits’
Dead giveaway…. trying to be all posh….. ‘their’…. but lost it in front of tits.
A lover’s tiff. Labour and The Sun were like *that* in Ali Campbell’s day. Now they ain’t.
Either way it’s all out war between The Sun and Labour now. Brown missed the opportunity to eat a little shit and do his best impression of an apology over the phone. It would have been the obvious, natural thing for most people to do, given that they’d mis-judged the effect their ’sympathy letter’ would have.
‘Mrs Janes, I’m so sorry for upsetting you at this time. That was not my intention, etc etc etc…’
He’d have gained some kudos (had he twigged that ‘The Sun’ was recording it). But no. He just couldn’t manage it.
You know, like when you’re splitting up with somebody but you want to avoid an unnecessary stand-up row so you just give it ‘It’s not you – it’s me…’
Not Gordon. With him its:
‘It’s not me. It’s you….’
Fucking jackass.
As his attorney I advised him never to miss an opportunity to eat a little shit. Oh, and buy golf shoes.
Eat shit? Hello!!!
Oh did newlabour love the Sun THEN!
Fucking Toenails on the BBC news was a joke. This little Labour turd eater really is starting to annoy me.
I reckon not only would he take Gordon’s load in his mouth (and Swallow) he’d give him a good rimming for afters as well.
Toenails was talking about how Gordon’s eyes were glazing over today (probably bored not being able to raise a new tax and having to talk about dead soldiers) then Toenails launched into a full on attack on the Sun. Like I say I don’t EVER remember the BBC sticking up for George W Bush when Cindy Sheehan was attacking Bush on a daily basis.
The whole BBC narrative today has been to allow scumbag rent boy using lefties to come on air and claim that this is all some Murdoch ploy to kill the BBC.
I bloody wish it was, but Brown is a total fucking Knunte who deserves a good kicking.
Shy? fucking shy? He wasn’t shy lobbing fucking Nokia’s around was he? He wasn’t shy telling us how he saved the world was he?
FUCK OFF TOENAILS AN THE REST OF YOU BBC WANKERS. YOU WILL ALL GET YOURS YOU FUCKING COCAINE SNIFFING BASTARDS
Just remember the Sun helped inflict Brown and Blair on this country.
An apology from them would not go amiss.
Quite right, it was the Scum what won it, it’s the Scum we have to thank for this mess.
Good then they can do penance and help remove the bӣtards cany they?.
Their not called the ‘Current Bum’ for nothing you know.
They can take any line they want, but turning a mother’s grief into a stunt Jeremy Beadle would have rejected on taste grounds is beneath contempt. No decent person can be happy that a PM will never again be able to make such a call for fear of being bugged by Coulson’s disciples. The Sun is what it always was, a grubby little bogroll run by vermin and read by cretins.
So you think Gordon should be free to bully people in private?
So you think puppies should be tortured?
See what a stupid form of argument that is?
You can stay here and taunt the window lickers
No puppies should not be tortured and Gordon shouldn’t bully people either.
No puppies were tortured in the making of this latest government fuckup
No no, I’m on for a bit of puppy-torturing, on the grounds that it will annoy the army of cretins known as “dog owners”.
The difference is that Gordon has already bullied the lady – and you want it kept quiet.
Sounded more like she was bullying him. I don’t think there’s any cause to patronise the woman. She’s seems quite capable of sticking up for herself.
On second thoughts she isn’t coming across as a grieving mother more like a revengeful one!
Oh dear, that ‘bullying’ woman just ‘made’ Gordoom dial her number so she could bully the poor prime mentalist.
Gordoom he’s a f%cking grown man [well ish] and he’s getting bullied by a grieving woman not a good ref for a pm is it? plus now he’s blind as well ! mind on marr a few weeks back he wasn’t ?
Jimmy said
“On second thoughts she isn’t coming across as a grieving mother more like a revengeful one!”
You know Jimmy I agree I really can’t possibly imagine why she should ever feel like that. (for one pico second and then realised why she did)
FU Jimmy!
Poppy,
Jimmy didn’t, in fact, say that
Jimmy said
“On second thoughts she isn’t coming across as a grieving mother more like a revengeful one!”
Sorry Jimmy I completly misunderstood what you just said there. Of course you did not say:
“On second thoughts she isn’t coming across as a grieving mother more like a revengeful one!”
How very remiss of me to ever ever think you would say something like
“On second thoughts she isn’t coming across as a grieving mother more like a revengeful one!”
I now realise that the fact that you said:
“On second thoughts she isn’t coming across as a grieving mother more like a revengeful one!”
Was not what you meant or intended and just like the wonderful mother who had had just lost her wonderful son and then had to apologise to the scumbag that sent him there I also apologise to you for the fact I even considered for a single second that you ever said:
“On second thoughts she isn’t coming across as a grieving mother more like a revengeful one!”
Hope that puts the record straight that you didn’t ..say that you know say that:
“On second thoughts she isn’t coming across as a grieving mother more like a revengeful one!”
Ok now?
Perhaps it would make it clearer if I demonstrated like this.
Gotcha!!! Jimmy, and by the way……………………… FU!
Next time make sure when you do the copy/ paste you dont include the ’says’ bit so it comes out as ’says says’
TWAT!!!
Gotcha
By the way FU (in case I forgeot to mention it)
Hmm. If that’s the case why did the BBC and Sky News just run the full interview with Mrs Janes. Perhaps you should see it before making such sweeping stupid and uninformed statements.
This lady is no stooge she is a grieving mother speaking from the heart. Something you and your blundering boss appear to have lost in the cause of fucking up this country.
I’ve not said a word against the woman. I think I made it pretty clear who i was attacking, but read it again if you’re still confused.
1. The Sun did not tape the conversation, her friend did.
2. Your friends at the BBC and Skj also ran the story. Are they also vermin & cretins?
3. It is not I that is confused Jimmy, get back to the bunker and try again.
4. SEE HER INTERVIEW
And this “friend” presumably also put it on the Sun website?
My “friend” thinks you’re a credulous buffoon.
Mrs Janes ‘taped’ the phone call from Brown by simply switching on her answer-phone when she realised he was coming on to argue the toss.
There’s nothing sinister about having an answer-phone. Millions of us have one. They seel them by the thousand at argos.
Ahh? she may think that of course but with you Jimmy, we could not possibly comment.
You just did. You have now complained that she is the bully. So not only do you want to keep Brown’s bullying secret (a trade mark of bullies) but you have inverted what has happened. Truly we are run by the loonies.
It wasn’t meant as an insult. You are trying to suggest some meek little woman being browbeaten, which is nonsense. I think she came over very well, far better than he did. It was simply not appropriate for broadcast
I should also add that some twat has now decided it would be hilarious to post under the same name as me.
probably thick as pigshit
“It was simply not appropriate for broadcast”
OK, define ‘appropriate for broadcast’.
WTF does that mean? Who makes the decision?
Unsworth,
Main Entry: 2ap·pro·pri·ate
Pronunciation: \ə-ˈprō-prē-ət\
Function: adjective
Date: 15th century
: especially suitable or compatible : fitting
synonyms see fit
— ap·pro·pri·ate·ly adverb
— ap·pro·pri·ate·ness noun
Main Entry: 2broadcast
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): broadcast also broad·cast·ed; broad·cast·ing
Date: 1813
transitive verb 1 : to scatter or sow (as seed) over a broad area
2 : to make widely known
3 : to transmit or make public by means of radio or television
I assume we can take “for” as read
The decision is generally taken, as in this case, by the broadcaster.
OK Jimmy, so you’ve demonstrated that you can look things up in some form of dictionary. Now, put these three words together into your phrase ’suitable for broadcast’ and tell us WTF you mean. After all, you coined the phrase.
And, if it’s the broadcaster who ‘decides’ presumably you agree entirely with any such decisions – maybe you are the broadcaster.
Unsworth, the point is that these are ordinary English words. You know what they mean as well as I do. I think it’s a matter of judgment and taste perhaps incapable of being reduced to an exhaustive formula but as a general proposition I cannot conceive of any case not involving serious criminal activity where the public interest would ever justify the broadcast of a secretly recorded private telephone conversation. The subject matter compounded the lapse of judgment here in my view.
“if it’s the broadcaster who ‘decides’ presumably you agree entirely with any such decisions”
I’m afraid the logic of that proposition escapes me.
Jimmy, it comes down to you wanting to cover up Brown’s bullying. That is typical bully mentality – a method of controlling the victim – it’s classic.
Well all I can say is that if what you heard was Mrs. Janes getting bullied then you should get your hearing checked.
Ah yes, Jimmy. Good of you to remind us.
Those who cry foul at the heartless attacks on the poor defenceless Prime Minister are surely the same thugs who co-ordinated the Guardian onslaught against Coulson.
The difference of course being that the Brown-soldier’s mother story is based on facts whilst the Coulson attack has proven to be somewhat less substantial.
Wasn’t it McBride who rang Guido at the time to declare, somewhat optimistically as it turns out, that they were going to “get” the Tory spinmeister? How far the mighty have fallen into their own effluent.
Attack the PM all you like. He’s fair game, as is Coulson. It’s politics, but if you can’t see that a line of decency was crossed here I genuinely don’t know how to explain it to you. As to what sweet nothings may have passed between Guido and McBride I have no idea and even less interest.
It was Gordon who crossed the line of decency.
Of course Jimmy when Blair,Brown.Meddlesome,Campbell told us a pack of lies about Iraq.In so doing cost the lives of many of our own and innocent Iraqs.We then crept out of there only to repeat the same in Afganistan.Of course that could not be considered crossing the line could it.Not in the world of this scumbag government and its camp following wierdoes.
Jimmy
The line of decency was crossed when Labour sent men to the front line that had to buy their own protective equipment. Go on DENY IT HAPPENS!!!
Oddly enought something the government HSE department would shut be down for if I did such a thing myself (Which I don’t by the way and never have but there again I do actually care)
I’m aware that a large section of the press take the line that standard issue military equipment suddenly became inadequate in 1997. Yhe cause of this transformation has yet to be explained.
It didn’t “suddenly became inadequate in 1997″ it became non-existent due to Brown’s cuts and Bliar/Brown’s incompetence at running the MoD, whilst starting two regional wars that we weren’t in in 1997.
How should we deal with Tony Blair characterising David Kelly as a ‘Walter Mitty’? How should we characterise Blair using the press to disseminate his ‘45 minutes..’ lie?
How should we view Brown and the other members of the cabinet going along with the lie just so they too could have their short, sharp, successful little Falklands War and the poll bounce that they thought would come with it?
Brown and the Labour party can fuck off to hell getting into a swoon about this. They’re the ones with blood on their hands. Not ‘The Sun’.
Fuck off war criminal apologist – Radovan Karadzic needs some support on another blog and you’re needed.
If you don’t like how grieving mothers choose to make their feelings known then don’t start so many fucking pointless wars.
Sorry there’s just too much crap in there to deal with. Pick your least insane point and get back to me.
So you think a grieving mother should shut up, but Brown’s ok to carry on bullying provided it is in private?
Where on earth do you get that? Even for a Sun reader, your reading skills are piss poor.
you still here jimmy?
I thought I told you to fuck off you wanker.
fuck off jimmy, your boring and repetitive fishwife nagging is chasing away the decent punters. they can be nagged at home jimmy, they don’t need to come here to be nagged by an old spinster like you all the time, innit.
so fuck off.
no refund.
Jimmy
How about you start with this one from JGM
How should we characterise Blair using the press to disseminate his ‘45 minutes..’ lie?
Always been facinated with that specific one so please do enlighten us all with your wisdom?
The floor is all yours……
I think it’s a fair criticism to say the intel was oversold. As I personally didn’t support the decision to invade I’m probably the wrong person to ask. Nor do I see what it has to do with the topic.
“I think it’s a fair criticism to say the intel was oversold”
Well you know Poppy on the cross (another one) says: SAYS:
We are at last in agreement because your latest statement is probably the understatement of the year and ‘oversold’ is correct. Never thought I would ever agree with you but shit happens I guess.
So “oversold” is the new Zanuliebore euphemism for lie?
We back Blair!
We back Iraq!
We back Afghanistan!
We backed Iraq!
We back Afghanistan!
we sexed up the dossier that has lead to thousands of needless deaths.
What did Bush have on Blair to make him dance to his tune?
and the Conservative Party STILL backed Iraq when it emerged what a piece of shit internet paste the dodgy dossier was
It was millions of needless deaths. You never were good with numbers.
“and the Conservative Party STILL backed Iraq when it emerged what a piece of shit internet paste the dodgy dossier was”
Yeah by that time we were in there on bect info provided and they were shooting shit out of us so what else could we do?
To find out afterwards it was bollox mmmmmmmm
got it wrong sonny
the cut and paste dossier was discovered to be bullshit very soon afterwards
“the bulk of an intelligence dossier heralded by Colin Powell at the UN yesterday, was copied from three different articles – one written by a graduate student.
On Monday, the day before the US Secretary of State, Colin Powell addressed the UN, Downing Street published its latest paper on Iraq.
It gives the impression of being an up to the minute intelligence-based analysis – and Mr Powell was fulsome in his praise.
Published on the Number 10 web site, called “Iraq – Its Infrastructure of Concealment Deception and Intimidation”, it outlines the structure of Saddam’s intelligence organisations.
But it made familiar reading to Cambridge academic Glen Rangwala. It was copied from an article last September in a small journal: the Middle East Review of International Affairs.
It’s author, Ibrahim al-Marashi, a postgraduate student from Monterey in California. Large sections do indeed appear, verbatim.”
So they were so fucking stupid the Conservatives believed all the Bliar spin even after it had been revealed to be complete horsecock
How should we deal with Tony Blair characterising David Kelly as a ‘Walter Mitty’?
We should think that B’liar was transferring his own ‘Walter Mitty’-ness onto David Kelly – that being his own alter-ego Miranda.
We should of course now insist upon a Miranda character in every Xmas panto. Just as commedia dell’arte got a crocodile when it became Punch and Judy, so the crocodile now comes into its own, chasing ‘Miranda’ at intervals through the action, tearing bits off here and there, before biting Miranda’s head off and tossing the remains into the audience. (Scope there methinks for a few half-size Elfin Safety puppets as well).
and I take it Jimmy thats why Alistair Campbell was overjoyed when the Sun came “onside” in 97 ?
No, it’s because the Sun is not a leader of public opinion, it’s a bandwagon jumper. As in 97 it has already decided the next election is in the bag and wants to take credit for the result. The Sun endorsement was a sign we were going to win, not a cause of it.
“we”?hmm who’s we then jammy ?playing away today or on expenses ?
I’m in a hollowed out volcano plotting the return of world communism of course. Don’t you read the Spectator?
So The Sun rejecting Labour and all its evil works and empty promises is a sign Labour are going to lose?
Perfect. Good enough for me.
bit late to the Party aren’t you?
the polls have been saying as much for months
therefore Jimmy by your own logic you admit defeat for Labour at the next Election. You really are a master of the argument, are you perhaps a barrister ?
Now that’s just nasty.
In fact what I have admitted is that Murdoch believes a Labour defeat is inevitable, not that he is right. In fact Labour will be returned for a fourth term in a landslide.
Well it’s no crazier than the rest of the bollocks on here.
the new labour war and occupation party is going to return less than 200 MPs jimmy.
the core vote is going to collapse. the labour voters simply will not turn up to endorse the new labour torture party any more.
they will not vote tory but equally they will not vote labour.
new labour has cannibalised the core vote.
hung parliament this time.
you can bet on it.
I have.
For goodness sake Jimmy if you don’t like what is printed don’t buy the newspaper.If you don’t like what’s on the TV or Radio switch it off. Now be a good boy and sod off
it’s called spin
look it up
I think the Sun’s done good! For once.
As a dyed in the wool Tory (no labour IP address) my take on things:
PM writing to the families = Good idea (W@nker Bliar never bothered). However, a typed letter with a hand written salutation and signature would have been better/safer.
PM rings mother = Not too sure. Gordon does not do empathy nor does he accept blame. Any politician speaking to the public, especially on a sensitive subject, should work on the principle that it is being recorded.
Sun publishes letter = Rough and tumble of politics.
Sun publishes phonecall = A step too far perhaps, certainly published too quickly.
Labour trolls are everywhere! check under your bed tonight and you may well find one telling you it started in America.
Actually I am one of them.
Watch out for the Labour trolls.
They only come out in the day time because they don’t have proper jobs to do. At night they rampage through city centres spending our money.
= just got back from a day’s work in London running my own business. Making my own money, supporting my family and paying my taxes – and doing my bit for the local community.
So not a troll & not paid by the Labour Party and not paid out of public funds.
Just an ordinary person who feels sad for this woman.
And indeed depressed for what the country has probably got to look forward to over the next few years – neo Thatcherite Victorian policies in the name of ‘compassionate conservatism’ (an oxymoron if ever I saw one) – while the rich bankers / financiers / Eton old boys screw us roundly.
Got to go now – have work to do later.
What this country has to look forward to is paying off Gordon’s massive debts.
The problem is both of you posters are right.
We are both going to get right royally screwed by the Eton/Oxford set who already are showing the signs of ‘Blair era politics’ while paying the Gordon-extravaganza debt burden issued onto us.
We hope for better days? Start by electing better politicians and not just the ‘faces’ that the parties want.
Would could be better than a House of Commons with 646 Independents who all demand reform of the Houses of Parliament. That would shock the two ‘main’ parties.
yeah right
you really sound as if you run a business.
Jack is probably that Maguire O2 thief.
TT
I nominate Jack for the biggest dumbfuck Troll ever. Try this post from above
Jack says:
November 10, 2009 at 6:36 pm
I am not sure why you think ‘cocksucker’ is a term of abuse – but I don’t – as it happens.
I suggest we all start using it as a term of endearment to Jack and his pals. Perhaps Guido can greet the PM as such when they next meet.
hey wanker
until Guido puts THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE WEBSITE at the top of this blog then you and all the other little pussies have no right to dictate who is or is not a troll because they aren’t on your fucking ‘team’
bawling “Labour Troll!!!” at anything you don’t like simply makes you look like an ignorant shit-for-brains thin skinned little pussy
take your twatty partisan whining elsewhere
yo cocksucker
Jack Sprat.
er – yes – right. It is my one man band – but it is a business registered with companies house and VAT. What do you do sonny? Is your school shirt a bit tight round the neck?
That’s quite a backstory for a troll, ‘Jack’!
Is it a trolling business?
A lot of us, including females on this blog have to work for their living too! AND pay tax, AND pay vat. I do, and I still hate the gorgon and the gorgon’s men and women, and would be very nervous about voting tory. What’s so special about you Jack?
I am not claiming special status – I am sure many people who post here work very hard for a living. But I am simply saying I am not some troll paid for by the Labour Party – I do have a life – an independent life – where I work hard too.
I run manufacturing companies.
p.s.
you forgot to say it all started in America.
I think “work” as Jack intends it to mean in this context is the meaningless expenditure of effort and energy on a gummint sponsored and funded non-project.
er – nope it is about making London safer as it happens. Or do you advocate the privatisation of the police?
Privatise the police? Why not – most of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan is run by the private sector. So I say yes, privatise the fucking police and be done with it.
There is a knock at the door – it is the German / French / American owned police force company that your council hired to clean up the town from miscreants like you….
Oh you clean up the streets and polish the no parking signs then?
Gordons Brown shirts more like
Yawn!!!!!!
My dear Jack.Its not the Tories who are bankrupting the country, producing the poorest educated children,sending troops to their deaths underequipped.telling us crimes been reduced when 39000 cautions have been issued for ABH.GBH and rape so as not to be counted as serious crime.The bankers have been doing very well under your leader who relaxed banking regulations in 1998.
Bankrupting the country – has been caused by the international & privately owned banking corporations who loaned money when they should not have – we the taxpayers have now had to pick up the bill because of their greed and ineptitude.
As for police cautions – I agree a very worrying development – caused in no small part by a target led culture that began in the early 90’s.
Banking regulations – yep a real problem – I certainly did not support their relaxation. But there again – the Tories did – along with Labour.
“Running my own business” and “doing my bit for the local community” at the same time, eh?
Let me guess, some sort of ex-council service that’s been part-privatised? A “housing association” perhaps? So if the council money dries up then you go under?
Yep, really independent that is.
How about utter fucking lies and bullshit. It’s a rehash of the ‘big push’ Labour had on the BBC blogs when the Maximum Imbecile cut VAT to 15%. Suddenly hoards of ’small businessmen’ were appearing spontaneously appearing out of nowhere, signing up to the BBC and procaliming a massive upsurge in orders for their little manufacturing business.
Utter bullshit.
Absolutely correct.
Labour NZ had the same strategy and tactics.
They also had come to the end of the road. They also couldn’t help but interfere with everyones lives and really started to push into the house.
Smacking Ban as law, Shower pressure regulations in the pipeline.
Their bloggers were a highly organised team working from the 9th floor of the Beehive. Paid for by the taxpayers, and NOT by the Labour Party.
They were decimated in the election, and had it been FPTP and not a German style MMP there would only have been 6 full constituencies returned for Labour.
All centred on Bludgers or Quangocrats of course.
Since the election, the Tories down there have consolidated their position in the polls hugely, and what a relief to have a happy, balanced. and smiling Prime Minister. Rather than a dour, embittered freak that was Helen Clark. The parallels are very spooky.
Helen Clark of course had by then bought her job as 3ic in the UN. By paying more contribution than Australia x4 per capita. Just like Blair did, and Brown passing legislation to spend money we don’t have on overseas aid.
Labour are failing their own ideology and look ever so lost, and unpopular.
But did the NZ Labour party utterly fuck the NZ economy? Nobody will be smiling in June here either way. It won’t be a ‘Thiiiings can only get bettteeeer…’ parade.
Thiiiiiings is totally fucked. And they’re getting fucked-er with each passing day this shower of imbeciles endure. Every year of this government’s profligate idiocy is going to take at least a year to unwind.
Glad it’s all working out in NZ.
Im a communist, run my own business, plus I’ve been decorated
for my service in in Iraq and Afganstan and lost a kid there to boot…and
I buy fairtrade so there.
How dare the sun insult Gordon, the best economist in the world.
there be two Jacks – as it happens!
easily done
you will be modded like a motherfucker if you steal my name again.
two liars will DARE anything.
Doing my bit for the local community – means things like organising street parties and helping neighbours out. Nothing grand – just to sort of ordinary – non funded neighbourly work that goes on everywhere. Maybe you do some?
And my business includes training engineers out in the Middle East as well – as it happens.
Key word check:
Thatcher – tick
Bankers – tick
Eton – tick
Toffs – Oops, forgot one
abuse bingo:
Hoon – check
jackass – check
troll – check
etc…
yawn……………
oh I see – hoon = cun’t
oh god that so funny – I am seriously falling off my chair – wow – the humour of this site is just stunning….
ho he ho he ho he……
bingo
cunnt = what I actually wrote…
Just to remind everyone that despite all the time that has past since this message was brodcast in the past on this blog when this blog was green fields for as far as the eye could see and not this built up urban area:
I am and still remain a total utter ‘hoon’
So you didn’t know about the c-word/hoon thing?
Not a regular reader then?
So what brought you here today Jack?
State funded astroturfing perchance?
Whoops!
what brought me here – was the crass, shabby and vicious pillorying of Gordon Brown over the letter he sent to a grieving mother.
This is a fucking rogue govenment. However, you can always trust the honourable Mr Straw
The same Mr Stew whose father is a coward?
GUY TV Competition
who is this morbidly obese trougher????
So how much are you troughing on your little jaunt to Strasburgh you greedy bastard go on prezza make sure you stuff your fucking face at our expense, go on gorge yourself thats it go on my son shag one of your staff as well , ah you have outdone the tories with sleaze fat boy !!!!
I hope this fat fuck isn’t cremated. I would hate to miss out on the chance to piss on his grave.
he’s not that bad really honest.
ooh! you are awful but you are a fat twat but I like you, are you married?
Presnot has more chins than a Chinese phone directry. Why has he not died of a massive heart attack yet?
Whelan is a Panto Dame
a bad one at that !
GB:Im sorry mrs janes,we have tried to give the troops the equipment they need and i have tried my best . . .
JJ: And failed
GB: WELL IF ITS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ,FOR THEM THEYLL HAVE TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS BUT I HAVE TRIED MY BEST
What the fuck,is brown serious.
Instead of doing everything he can to provide the troops with all the equipment they need and deserve.He seems to be saying if they dont like being under equipped they should quit
In any other walk of life, trying your best but failing would be grounds for resignation – c’mon Gordon, give the public what they want – ELECTION NOW!
Broon’s coming round on the blind side – Meddlebum’s trying an up and under. The rest of the government are lying on the ball – an obvious invitation for a good kicking!
who’s got their hand in the ruck?
hello! oh you said ruck not shit
sorry
SCHADENFREUDE is how the Germans have it (‘the enjoyment of another’s discomfort’), but I much prefer — as I look at the one-eyed snot-gobbler’s fake tears — the old Chinese proverb: “There is nothing so joyful as watching your neighbour fall off his roof”.
Correct and really good observation Kim but I think in Nu Labours situation perhaps it should be rewritten slightly.
“There is nothing so joyful as watching your neighbour fall off his SPOOF”.
Especially if you don’t own your own roof…
It makes me sick … this sympathy for Gordon line ..
Did McBride never exist ? What about the thousands of unemployed/homeless families that Gordon help put there, the thousands of dead in Iraq etc. due to the Government not ordering basic equipment.
The UK is so run by the liberal set who take over the various media ‘outputs’ to make sure that the ‘independent central’ news view is always left biased.
Keep up the good work Guido and stick it to them, thats what they deserve…the Mirror, Brown, Campbell et al
Sympathy for Gordon my ar*e
Well put !
The left-wing/right-wing paradigm = ‘divide and rule’… to which the MSM is fully complicit in stirring up.
As long as we have puppets/muppets like Gordon The Clown/Tony Bliar/David Cameron/Obamarama, we will always have wars started by their paymasters. If only soldiers would realise this and simply not play the game.
He resurfaced in 2007 with a new job at the top of the labour movement, working for Unite, the country’s biggest union. As political director of Unite, Mr Whelan’s precise duties are nebulous, but he controls a large budget and staff of press officers and public affairs specialists, giving him considerable political clout.
Few are in any doubt that that influence is used to benefit his former employer at least as much as his current one.
The revelation that Mr Whelan was privy to discussions about setting up the Red Rag website will only strengthen suspicions that he remains very much an active part of Mr Brown’s inner circle.
What horrible vision is this?
It’s only a semi circle ! As Brown can only see half of it !
The thinking public has about as much interest in the Mirror’s worldview as I have in that of Paolo The Peasant, and so it ever was.
Socialists march and whine, whilst the usefully occupied and self-determining work, play and enjoy life with little rancour.
Labour, Labour, pants on fire. And they know it.
There are many pleasant things about living in Britain but the tabloid press is not one of them. I have never been subjected to the sort of vile, tainted abuse that The Sun and The Daily Mail (in particular) vomit forth every day. I have no idea how I would cope with it if I was.
Gordon Brown has handled this sorry affair with dignity – which is more than one can say for The Sun, Mr Fawkes and many of the commentors on this blog.
What a vicious lot the British can be – and how insensitive sometimes.
Fuck off Paddy.
Bet you never heard that before.
“Fuck off” is a profound comment from jgm2, he thinks it sounds intelligent.
You can fuck off too.
Labour apologist jackass.
nicely done jgm2.
Paddy, please remember that this is the man who personally appointed and worked closely with “Mr” McBride, the man who would smear anyone who dared to critisise his master.
Meanwhile six more of our ill-equipped troops are brought back today in wooden boxes.
Some perspective please, or as jgm2 so eloquently says above, Fuck Off.
You can choose to buy what paper you like paddy.
Gordon Brown handles everything like a dog’s mickey
Well said Paddy. You are one of the few reasonable voices on this message board that has a regular cesspit of foul mouths and infantile lunatics like jgm2
Do you mind i like the “cesspit of foul mouths and infantile lunatics like jgm2″ gives the place color mainly blue but hey its a right leaning blog moron !.
Sod off to the labour site and spend a evening agreeing with each other !
‘Message board’? What effing ‘message board’?
This is a blog, see? Take a look at the top of the page.
Car for sale, no MOT, high mileage!
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ke me an offer
Nice Irish jig, Paddy.
Without the tabloid press this country would be steeped in the mire of corruption! They have opened up political and other areas to the light of day. newlabour are squealing like stuck pigs because they havn’t got The Sun on side. Also, if their educational policy had been more successful people wouldn’t be persuaded to buy and soak up the views of these newspapers.
Oh come on – Have I Got News For You make an extremely good point about the 20-somethings on page 3’s having a political statement to make while being photographed topless.
The Sun is an adult comic!
“Gordon Brown has handled this sorry affair with dignity”
Gordon the Clown wouldn’t know what dignity is if it bit him on his fat smelly arse. The puppet/muppet is just a another sociapathic politician in a cheap suit biding his time waiting to hopefully join his fellow sociapaths in the Bilderberg-run EU.
You seem to have the ‘vicious British’ confused with people entitled to having freedom of speech… the same freedom of speech which your beloved Gordon the Clown is fast taking away from us.
If you hate the British so much then kindly do one… take the one-eyed-Jock with you too.
Macguire??? what a fricking loser, was about as much use as a chocolate fireguard when he was on HIGNFY the other night…..
odious turd…….
Labour leftie?? Macguire…no independent thought process going on in HIS head, one can only assume his parents voted Labour when they did support the working class, of course we did not know it at the time but they were all Soviet spies….. what a fricking loser this guy is!!
Toilets Maguire the fake Geordie is such a big fan of the working class that he has chosen to live amongst the millionaires of Weybridge in Surrey.
There gan’s the neeahbahud like.
Fukken haddaway an shite man, arm in the money now man an arr live in Surrey like so stick the Scotswood Road up yer arse.
Weybridge is a dump as well… all the hideousness without the decent people.
This is great fun – I haven’t heard such stunned lashing-out by the chattering classes since we kicked Livingstone’s arse out of his fiefdom (we being the voters)! I can even remember that patronising racist Yasmin Aliwhatever Brown saying that poor Gordon felt ‘bullied’ by Dave’s superior Etonian flair: a ‘class cringe’ she called it, as if Brown was some kind of comprehensive educated prole being outdone by those dweadful toffs. Excuses, excuses. This government really is full of shit and shits, and history will reveal all, eventually.
Yeah fair enough. Mackenzie the Hoon is still a Hooning Hoonstain though.
The key point is that our papers are all run by crooks and cowards. I remember as far back as 1985 or 86 being on holiday in Dublin and the leading paper reporting the emerging scandal of a senior UK cabinet minister involved in child molesting. It never surfaced in the UK. I assume a D notice was issued but any proper press would have made sure the story appeared and damn the consequences. Similarly, I was told by a tabloid staffer that all the papers had the real story of what happened to Stephen Milligan and who really was first on scene – but they were scared off printing. I am no conspiracy theorist and do not brand all politicians as either evil or incompetent, but our press do us no good by focusing on the trivial (expenses, affairs) whilst suppressing major scandals which go to the heart of a few leading figures fitness for public office. If Guido or anyone else wants details on the kiddie scandal I suggest a quick search through the Irish press archives.
Really?
And after all these years, you still post your own version of this “story” anonymously and give no details…
Crook, coward, or a bit of each!?
Funny how you never complained about the Sun until the Labour conference.
And the expenses affair is trivial eh?
The only nice thing about Labour trolls is they always hang them selves.
Funny how you never complained about the Sun until they backed Blair
And the expenses affair is trivial eh?
The only nice thing about Paramoid trolls is they always hang them selves.
Funny how you never complained about the sun until they backed Cameron
And the war in Afghanistan is trivial eh?
The only nice thing about Paranoid and ”Paramoid” trolls is they always hang them selves.
First story is easy enough to check by an archive search. Suggest you try that or don’t you care about the truth unless it only cuts one way?
The Sun – Murdoch’s anal tampon – and a used one at that!
Oh what lovely child you must be with a mind like that ! and you think the Sun is a wrong un, try looking in a Mirror more you’re thing!.
Guido is quite right. The shitzkrieg coming from an overnight hatching of ‘I dislike Gordon Brown buts…’ is proof positive that Brown and Labour have finally realised just how much they are hated in the world outside their little bubble.
They’ve obviously all been concentrating on the BBC HYS and Tony Robinson et al’s blogs without realising that the censorship had forced all dissent to move on to other places. Where we happily swap ideas and then ‘poison’ the minds of everybody we meet in our everyday life by explaining exactly what kind of a clusterfuck Brown and Labour have made.
And nope The Sun has abandoned them too and they’re like lovers scorned. They’re the ones claiming custody of the kids and threatening to poison them rather than hand ‘em over come the courts decision hence their utter destruction of the economy and their systematic botching of every major decision that needed making this past 12 years. Even now their ‘fast-track’ nuclear power station planning proposal is just to defer the decision onto the Tories without giving ‘em any time to get anything built just so they can claim that although the lights went out (in say 2016) it wasn’t their fault.
Evil. Evil. Evil.
We should be grateful for this ’shitzkrieg’ and learn from it – we now know what they are capable and we must plan accordingly – in the mean time we should examine the technicalities and possibilities involved – and expose them !!
We also need to educate the media in all respects – the BBC this evening would certainly not believe the reality of the situation!
I agree – the website analytics programs give you everything – The Sun Mail Times etc should all perform this task. The BBC can and will but it will be kept a secret – unless a FOI Act enquiry is asked to be performed in such situations
Now that’s a goooood idea !!!
it’s a conspiracy!
nobody could possibly disagree with The Sun so they are all plants
Seemples!
How do I get a glass eye as dashing as Gordon Browns? I can’t find any videos telling me.
Also is their are video showing us all how to do that funky thing with our jaws?
You know?
The thing Gordon does with his jaw that looks like he is giving a fly a blowjob.
jgm2
Oh but I have – but it’s usually accompanied by some approximation of reasoned argument. And usually from people who don’t hide behind anonymous names. And who have the courage to engage in discussion rather than just throw playground taunts.
I have managed to blog for six years or so without resorting to insults and without needing to disguise who I am. Think about it…
Actually I’m not really who I say I am. I’m not that daft!
To Mr Paddy whoever you are.
Do you mean this sorry affair as you call it from the perspective of a lady who has lost a son.
You say McMental has handled this well,you are having a laugh sonny,all the world are feeling sorry for us having to suffer this Kirkcoddy egotistical,mendacious,malajusted arsehole.
All the Liebour scumbags are running around in a blind panic thats how well the moran handled it.
If I were you I,d go and take a pill and have a lie down for a bit.
JG this could be your mother-in-law !
Paddy, you sound like a proper Hoon.
If the Labour Party don’t care about The Sun then why monitor their figures: http://twitter.com/johnprescott
hard to believe I know , but the mirror was once the leading intelligent social story paper , but the we found out maxwell was on the take wich kind of blew a hole in it .
perhaps positons are defining as the election nears 177 days defore freedom at the most
They don’t like it up ‘em.
Actually, now I come to think of it, Mandy does.
hehehe oh god i feel ill now !
Sadly Mrs Janes is beginning to appear as a nasty, revengeful woman rather than a grieving mother. My sympathy for her somewhat disappeared as soon as she got involved with the gutter rag.
She’s not the only woman in the country to lose a son! And most act with much more dignity that she is now showing.
Why?grief is as personal as gets why should she shut up? why shouldn’t she feel vengeful against the goverment who failed her son? just cause you think so or because you and you’re beloveds enforcers cannot deal with the few of us minions who don’t play the game and bite back ?
Labour MPs cannot empathise because not one of them has ever spent a day in the military. Except possibly Blair and Ed Balls in their CCF at private school but I don’t really think that counts.
To JGM2.
Straw Jack didn,t he was a conshy.
Yep. Ironic that a man who was once so against war was so comfortable going along with Tony’s little gig in Iraq and so laissez faire about allowing the yank military to transport prisoners through the UK to be beaten on the soles of their feet in Cuba.
Good ol’ Jack. All growed up now.
That’s it Porky. The best form of defence is attack. Learned that from the Maximum Imbecile did you?
Just like his approach to economics. The best form of prudence is bank*up*y.
Well done jgm2 you managed a submission without resorting to obscenities – I’m impressed.
To Porky.
This might impress you more then.
FUCK OFF YOU RETARD>
You loved the Gutter Rag until it saw sense and does dignity mean keeping quiet?
The empathy of your boss has rubbed off on you.
Take a moment to read your own post and hang your head in shame.
Actually I have never bought a Sun newspaper. However a neighbour (somewhat retarded) lets me have his old copies which I use for cleaning up dog mess when walking on country pathways.
You should wait until you get home to have a dump you dirty fucker.
You clean up dog crap in the ‘country’? with a ‘newspaper’?!? Unbelievable.
You loved the Gutter Rag until it backed Blair and does dignity mean getting plastered all over The Sun?
The empathy of Murdoch has rubbed off on you.
Take a moment to read your own post and hang your head in shame.
I read the daily mail thanks
The beano too if their is time to spare
I even pay for the Metro to read up on serious affairs, I hand the woman a pound and say go on love get yourself a cup of tea.
“The beano too if their is time to spare.”
You mean of course The Daily Mirror.
You’re giving pork pies a bad name you mendacious little сunt.
This line of shit is a NuShite standard–like the old woman who was left in the hospital corridor for ages and then they tried to smear her as a supposed “racist”. Piss on all you vermin. Brown is scum who sends troops to die on the cheap but has billions for his tinpot soviet commisar shit (ID cards/DNA/are you a paedo? checks).
fk-orf ppmp.
How many children have you lost in an illegal underfunded war fought on a shoe string because the Marxist Mcsnotbag has always opposed the armed forces since his time as a jumped-up socialist student agitator and Kremlin-assisted place-man in a party whose treacherous Soviet betrayal is now being exposed .
The army would be perfectly justified in putting bullets into the heads of the entire scummy cabinet.
porky does that mean the Guardian ,thought so
Porky, you are a heartless basturd
The astroturfing has moved into seriously corrupt territory now. The BBC Radio 4 news at 6 closed its hopelessly partisan report on Gordon’s letter/phone fuck-up, or Spazzgate as I like to call it, with an announcement that emails to the BBC strongly supported Gordon. This will no doubt feed back into other “supportive” mails, in what I term carousel propaganda.
It is absolutely beyond doubt that there is an orchestrated campaign afoot to fake public support for the PM in online fora. Fine. If little old ladies are impersonating hesitant tories on the web, fine. If they pay for it all themselves. But if *we* are paying for wholesale lying, a national campaign of lies… then that’s a very different matter. Guido, you da man. Winkle this out. This is *as* important as the expenses scandal. This is about subverting the entire modern media, manufacturing consent, based on lies.
Sure, they do it all the time, but this is so blatant, so slapdash, that I reckon they may have exposed themselves. These are not bright peopl e- they just think they are.
Somehwere there is a bystander, a sysadmin, an ISP tech, stooge themself, who has a smoking gun. Fellers, do the right thing. Tell all. Document all.
You know what really feels good? Doing the right thing. It does. Do it.
Tell…
Good grief, are you feeling okay pal? Time for your medication I think.
Oh by the way, I’m not a Labour troll, just somebody who happens to disagree with your point of view.
And they disagrees with you and you make a jibe about them being on drugs ! good debating skills bud ?
plankstein: It was not a jibe I seriously believe this person is on medication. Not because of any disagreement but because he just comes across as rather demented. In fact I think he and jgm2 are the same person.
Well. You,know, you’re right. I confess. I am an asthmatic. I take my inhaler, sometimes as much as twice a day. You got me.
That was your point right?
Only… it doesnt’ seem much of a point…
You would be wrong. But then, as a Labour apologist, you will be well used to that.
No, no, when Zanuliebore trolls make a jibe it’s not a jibe, geddit?
you aren’t allowed to disagreee with the herd around here without being called a Labour Troll
they can’t help it any more than they can help posting paranoid conpiracy theories about plants if it seems like public opinion does not back them up 100%
eventually they calm down and lose interest like a meths swigging tramp barking and spitting furiously at passers by about the voices in his head and the space-aliens reading his mind
Yup…. there’s another one.
Can’t resist the gutter language & insults can they
another meths swigging conspiracy loony breaks cover
Yup…. there’s another one.
Can’t resist acting like lunatics can they?
Paranoid Troll Spotter is a little liar.
Wacked-up on anti-psychotics is a little liar.
someone mention plants what labour ones or those that all the twats are
are on
No space aliens please
Lizard people and hypocrite Gordoom supporters at the same time!
Yeah I’m feeling fien thanks, and I’ve been sniffing out this pollution for some time now. I have a nose for astroturfers. The online world is my domain, I know the rythms, the cadences, the subliminal signals of FAKERY, I can sniff ‘em out liek the childcatcher sniffs sssssssssssssssshildren.
Agreed – Guido – over to you !
I don’t think that most of the dirty tricks will be uncovered until they are well and truly out of office, and even then I wouldn’t hold your breath.
Be thankful that the clock is ticking and the sun is setting on New Labour and there’s not a damn thing they can do about it.
All the Telegraph has to do is offer 50k to the first whistle blower to come forward with evidence of this desperate astroturf campaign and Brown goes down like Nixon.
Hope the Sun rises up tomorrow as well.
gordon brown is more hated than hitler!
There speaks the profound voice of reason.
Well poker prove the statement wrong then ?
How dare you sir! It’s porker not poker!
Oink off.
only because hilter is dead !!
Ben voilà!
Just what I was thinking myself.
And that education under NuLab is so poor that many have never been taught about Hitler.
Glenn Beck is great entertainment. I wish we had an equivalent here but the folks at Ofcom would sooner eat their own shit than allow that.
He is funny. After watching Beck with his Chairman Mao red telephone waiting for a no-call from the Whitehouse, you quickly get the Fox slogan ‘Fair and Balanced’ for what it is – a self-mocking dig at the pathetic US mainstream media.
Glenn Beck is a fucking idiot. He is so fucking thick people mistake it for being self-mocking. He’s another one of these reborn again bigoted ex-substance (and probably little boy) abusers. I do find it fucking funny, but probably not for the same reasons you do.
it was all mrs.janes fault for having children.
i lectured her upon this nasty evil act and she now fully agrees with me.
I’ve got my finger on the nuclear button and i will not hesitate to press it if you don’t obey.You think i’m joking? Keep pushing ingrates,just keep pushing,
breaking news
it appears Johnson’s ignorance is paying dividends as the row rumbles on and threatens to engulf the Home Office and Johnson in yet more scientists quitting and complaining about “despicable” treatment
Has Postman Al been a tad maladroit again ??
That woeful situation has two things going for it:
1. Elected MPs taking responsibilty back from unelected and undemocratic quangos is the right thing to do. Advisers advise not dictate. The whole lot of sorry shitstains in the Government and Parliament have dodged their duty to us by taking only two important decisions – to delegate matters to their chums and to accept what their chums decide. I am not keen on the current practice of us electing MPs who then hand over all our authority to other people just in an attempt to stop the shit sticking to them. Let Alan Johnson make the decisions and let Alan Johnson carry the can for them when he gets it wrong.
2. There are plenty of experts who disagree with Prof. Nutt and his panel. Science and statistics can be interpreted many ways. Coincedence is not causation and there is no such thing as a consensus in science.
” Ericsson announces 700 job losses in Coventry.”
“Earlier this year the prime minister Gordon Brown paid a visit.”
We all sat down and watched “Have I Got News For You” last night.
Hilarious how bully boy’s mate McGuire was silent – just spoke to confirm his name IS “shit for brains” and then sat there pretending to laugh and not be seen.
Typical bully boy – scared shitless.
I hear there’s some dirt that could come out on Mr Maguire. Really sordid stuff, so it’s no wonder he’s somewhat reticent at the moment.
Like all bullys he is not so tough when he is on his own or up against clever opposition.
Brown is shitting himself. The smell in the bunker is unbearable. Poor Ed Balls can’t stop gagging.
he was totally, absolutely, USELESS.
That’s McGuire I’m commenting about, although it could apply to the gorgon as well.
He should be used to that smell at home
Unlike the press, which has a free hand (don’t mention PCC, they are a spineless bunch of insiders), the BBC *has* to be unbiased. They have a requirement to report the news in an unbiased way. When they are accused of even the smallest amount of bias there is a seismic response – look at the fuss over Gilligan.
Your accusation about bias in the BBC is simply because it exists in your Reich-wing mind. But if you truly have evidence then do the British public a favour and make a complaint to the BBC Trust, and if you are right then we will be yet another seismic inquiry. You won’t complain, of course, because you are a coward. But that is a trait of all you self-proclaimed “libertarians” whose form of liberty requires that the rest of us suffer.
Richard, just out of interest, how much are you paid to write your crap?
gi us a job mate, i can write and spell most words unless they are hard.
You fuckwit. There was only a ‘fuss’ over Gilligan because he exposed the Labour government’s deceit. When the BBC indulge in their customary Labour bias there is no fuss.
BBC Labour bias is just par for the course and if Cameron doesn’t sort it out as soon as he gets in next year then he will be making a rod for his own back.
Did anyone call me?
Yeah, I called you a сunt.
And another one.
A bit full of waffle this one but still has the mandatory insults we expect from Labour trolls.
They are easier to spot than a fish going for a run on a bike.
And another one.
A bit full of waffle this one but still has the mandatory insults we expect from paranoid trolls.
They are easier to spot than a fish going for a run on a bike.
lying paranoid troll spotter is lying. fail troll is fail.
lying Wacked-up on anti-psychotics is lying. fail troll is fail.
Some people complain that Guido makes too many complaints. Complained about the Smith Institute, got them restructured and formally reprimanded. Jacqui Smith, first complainant got her ordered to apologise (not the best result, not done woth her yet). Jim Devine now under formal police investigation, Shahid Malik under investigation. Jeez there is a rota of interns doing Guido’s complaining. Whaddya want me to do about the BBC they are a abomination unto themselves.
a very popular abomination though
I look forward to Politicians versus the BBC
because the public loves and trusts politicians don’t they?
Semen
Who fed you all this stuff?
You are not called Robbo’s Recepticle” for nothing.
For those of a historical bent, you are the sewer not the sewage.
Still it means Robbo fires a load of his muck in your direction on a regular basis.
NLJD = No Logic Just Diatribe
The fuss over Gilligan ended in the murder of David Kelly you stupid wanker. Deny that one – your Labour spinmeister will probably pay you a £5 bonus if you do.
Do you know how many web sites there are devoted to cataloging BBC bias? Google BBC bias you fucking twat, you might learn something.
“The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It’s a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people. It has a liberal bias not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias”,
Andrew Marr
the Daily Mail, Oct 21st, 2006.
No bias there then.
So what has Wednesday got in store for Brown?
Perhaps his driver will run an old lady over?
Perhaps he will be caught with Mandelson in an up and under?
Or perhaps for once, Cameron and Clegg can combine forces and reduce him to a blob of quivering fat by 12.15pm at PMQ’s?
He obviously won’t be sleeping tonight – I shiver to think how he could ever have thought that letter was acceptable to post!
And the winner is……..
A poll showing that 80% of the population doesn’t believe the one eyed idiot about his war.
I wonder how the BBC and Charlie Whelan will spin and lie that story?
I’m sure Toenails is working on it right now.
So what has Wednesday got in store for Brown?
Perhaps his driver will run an old lady over?
Perhaps he will be caught with Mandelson in an up and under?
Or perhaps for once, Cameron and Clegg can combine forces and reduce him to a blob of quivering fat by 12.15pm at PMQ’s?
He obviously won’t be sleeping tonight – I shiver to think how he could ever have thought that letter was acceptable to post!
not by 12.15. PMQ’s is on late because of Remembrance Day ceremony
I have this feeling that McDickwad does not know that and have this image of him turning up in the HoC and the cleaner is flicking around her duster
“oh ello your maj, never spected to see you er today gov , all the locals are dan the ceno’ Never mind eh maybe they will remember your birfday huh? Fancy a cup of char while yer waiting?
5,000 job losses within 12 months at Lloyds Bank as financial losses mount up.
Lloyds were doing fine and were financially sound before Gordon Brown blackmailed them into taking on the basket-case that was HBOS.
I’m here to help. Apple?
just dress up in your brownshirt, Ann, you look lovely as long as you don’t speak! :)
an adams apple more like
Coulters dark secret revealed
They have copied the B*P’s tactics well and truly in the comments, I AM NOT A B*P SUPPORTER BUT…….
They must be really desperate and scared.
“When Labour delegates were ripping up copies of The Sun on prime time TV what did they expect the response would be? There is a logical inconsistency about their rage; on the one hand they said the Sun wasn’t important and on the other hand they froth about it almost continuously. That they keep on repeating the mantra that it isn’t really important tells you it is really hurting and they fear it.”
Guido, have you been spying on me at the corporation bus depot? That’s almost word for word what I said to some muppet who was bleating that he thought that the Sun was being “a bit unfair” to McUselessChuckingFunt. These Liebore idiots are quite ahppy to play rough when it suits them, but they don’t like it when someone does it to them. Old saying from my childhood – if you can’t take it, don’t dish it out!
Order Of Public Hangings:Friday 4th June 2010 12;00GMT
1:MPs
2;Lords
3;Banksters
4:BBC
5;The Sun
6:Local Government
7:All LabLibCon Party members
8:Tracy Emin
9:Murderers,rapists,peadophiles and the c’unt who backed into my motor while i was in Tescos
10:G Brown(Big Finale)
You missed out those two charlatans Damien Hurst and Grayson Perry
SORRY TO BUTT IN BUT THAT FUCKING LABOUR LACKIE MICHEAL WHITE
from the Guardian rag,you missed him
any chance of uping the BBC to No 3?
I have a slight issue as I have to pick up my daughter from piano practice on that day and to reschedule is a real pain and I don’t want to miss anything important.
thanks
We will be the listening government.Let us know what time’s suitable for you,and we’ll string ‘em up to the Bobby Crush Greatest Honky Tonk Classics for the little’un.
Mr Hurst will be preserved in a tank of urine with a silver rod up his arse for the nations cultural enlightenment
Grayson Perry is actually talented, unlike Emin and Hirst…
wankers who make lists will be first against the wall
too late
11:anonymous trolls
wankers who make lists will be first against the wall
12:Surprise Bonus. “wankers who make lists will be first against the wall” merchants
Start with Fabians.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8353492.stm
BBC now trying to spin that jacqui janes accepts gordon’s apology and desperately trying to deflect attention away from her brave attempts to highlight equipment shortages.
All this afternoon’s ‘astroturfing’ has been aimed at that too. Message from slippery al and cwhelan to trollers – “Concentrate on gordon’s handwriting and his poor eyesight to get sympathy for him – don’t concentrate on Jacqui Janes real message that men are dying because gordon is failing to provide helicopters, equipment and enough troops to do the job.”
Just listen to the end of the video where she says that gordon does not understand the anger and grief of a parent who loses a child, needlessly bleeding to death because there was a shortage of medevac helicopters. She says she is sending him a detailed report of the last hours of her son’s life and that she hopes he has sleepless nights over it as she does.
Those are not the words of a mother who accepts his apology for not properly equipping her son before he sent him to war. And that is what this issue is really all about.
it’s not about the war it’s about helicopters
No!!!!
It’s about a government which embarks upon an ill thought-out war to gain macho credence and , of course, the most important thing of all to gordon votes!!!!.
This failed labour government was, and is, prepared to sacrifice lives to soup up their macho image in the public eye, to gain votes, but it is not prepared to properly kit out and equip our soldiers that they are posting to War Zone.
Afghanistan really is necessary for our safety is it???
First bliar and then broon. They have both failed our troops and us and they are still failing.
Because there is no truth in anything they say.
‘Afghanistan really is necessary for our safety is it???’
nope
so why does call me Dave say that exact same bullshit as Broon ?
Broons a cun’t but since Dave is spouting the same lies & wank he is too
‘They’re actually bullying the poor woman now. Blaming her and threatening to investigate the death of her son so that they can prove that they didn’t need more helicopters when he was killed. It’s ridiculous to suggest that he can’t write a well spelt well written letter. He’s totally out of step with the ordinary man. He’s now proved that beyond doubt!
That letter is not a jotting or rough copy. It is a signed and delivered message of condolence, in his own hand, to a complete stranger from the Prime Minister of Great Britain.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them
are you a fruit farmer?
just fruity
Are you a noisome puddle of Labour, Fruitbats-R-Us, guano?
Medevac helicopters – I wonder where they were in the Falklands.
Last week it was APCs now it is helicopters.
Where will it all stop, duvets?
Systemic failure from within.
All this anti GB ranting is cover for the failures of the MOD.
Maybe if they stopped paying for the officer corp to send their sprogs to private school there might be a few bob to buy some.
Trevor, I am talking about you.
Root and branch reform is required.
Only then will MOD warehouses stop burning down in the month before a new audit.
Ask questions about the Puma upgrade.
Ask questions about the 10yr old Chinooks that have done no real work.
Ask questions about the Trigger’s brush upgrade for the Lynx.
Ask questions about the delay in training aircrew.
These are all issues that are down to the MOD.
Why are they not on the agenda?
The excoriating report into the Nimord crash that killed 14 people in Afghanistan in 2006 heaped scorn and blame rightly on the MOD.
But it also contained some of the most devastating criticisms ever levelled at a government and hammered the Arms contractors at BAE and Qinetic.
They are all failures and Brown is not just responsible for how the MOD is run and managed via his Defence Secretary’s, but personally culpable in his actions as chancellor and PM trying to fight 2 idiotic wars on the cheap.
“trying to fight 2 idiotic wars on the cheap.”
That’s what it ultimately boils down to.
The Boarding School allowance has been covered here before. It is not exclusively for the “officer corps”:
Boarding School Allowance
Purpose
BSA is provided to enable the children of Service Personnel to have continuity of education that would otherwise be denied in the State sector because of the need to accompany the Service parent on postings at home and abroad.
Cut the class war crap because it detracts from the valid points you raise about the MoD. Bearing in mind the MoD have to play be the rules set by No 10 & No 11. The Nimrod episode was shameful, budgets before safety.
The Tories might have the Sun but Labour still has the BBC and trolls.
How long ago it seems when the nation was united in it’s hatred and loathing for ALL politicians. They’re nearly all self-serving thieves and liars, no matter which party. And sadly while we all argue amongst ourselves, they’re still getting away with screwing us all. Our soldiers are still dying needlessly, the economy collapsing and our sovereignty has been given away.The row about MPs expenses has faded into history along with any hope of tightening up the rules.
Well X factor has started init guv
The Labour govt is the enemy not a few LibDems and Tories claiming for moats and trouser presses.
I agree and I’m well into retirement. I have always followed politics but have never known such a hated Prime Minister and government.
I hope to see them gone next year and believe that any one of the other parties and their leader’s would be better and more honest than this corrupt rotten shower and that includes the one who’s name we dare not speak.
Tory/Lib Dem/Ukip/B&P Troll
Please delete as applicable
Well I’m off now, cannot afford any more time on this board. Just a parting shot – I was most impressed on BBC TV news with another grieving mother who said she got comfort from a letter from GB. Althogh obviously suffering from her loss she had such dignity, such composure. Made my day!
So they don’t pay overtime after 8:00pm. Either that, or they’re on shifts, and afternoon shift are handing over to nights.
Fuck off Labour twat.
Porky Pies MP says:
November 10, 2009 at 7:56 pm
“Well I’m off now, cannot afford any more time on this board”
Obviously double time after 8.00pm then, the Labour party being short of funds and that
just saying
Fair play to Griffin. It seems he went there quietly and without any fanfare or attempt to spin it. The first party leader to show such respect for the war dead.
Sky news also questioned relatives about him being there . and the overall consensus was if he says he’ll bring the troops home we’ll vote for him !
Funny the BBC didn’t mention Griffin being there
he goes everywhere quietly and without publicity lest the bonechilling onslaught of an egg makes him shit himself
Or unless the rent-a-mob of the UAF fascists attack him.
That has just got to be satire.
As soon as Tone becomes El Precedente of the EUSSR, I shall become PM.
The Unelected Monkey can continue to collect the money and clean the shit house.
These people are thick their is no other explanation, the sun was onside for a decade towing the party line, that means they know full well what goes on behind the scenes. They have got mountains of dirt to dish on Labour.
Whelan and Brown are deluded if they think they can hope to survive this. They will have to watch every move from now on.
The BBC has signed it’s own death warrant, Murdoch JR is going to come at it with a hatchet next year when he calls in his favour from Dave.
The Guardian…well no more needs to be said, no one takes that overpriced lentil eating new age hippy shite seriously or can even afford to buy it to wipe their arses with.
They really are on the last few throws of the dice and the panic has set in.
Also trying to stage a fightback online?
are these people mad?
It is akin to trying to swim up stream in Nigara Falls.
You simply cannot control the internet or debate on the internet and cover every website. It is futile.
Mrs Janes interview with Sky was very revealing, she is not the sort of person to be manipulated by anyone, least of all the Sun – she went to the Sun simply because it is pro-army. If anything she has made it worse for Brown stating that soldiers are still having to buy some of their kit.
Everyone was slagging off the Sun today but I think her interview completely exonorates the Sun IMO.
Mrs J taped Brown’s call by just switching on her answerphone. There was nothing underhand or planned about it as Brown’s gang are alleging.
O yea? If I were a bereaved mother I would not stoop to such tactics.The vicious attack on Brown does a disservice to all the quiet grief that there is out there. Who speaks for the fallen?Not The Sun I hope. Their memory would be tarnished for ever.
Hello Sapper, ex RE?
Damn my memory, there’s a drink called an ‘Engineer’s Pint’ – you couldn’t name the constituent ingredients for me, could you?
answer came there none
Sapper, you’re clearly not a bereaved mother are you.
On the contrary you come across as yet another, not-so-subtle, Labour astro-turfer.
and arsehole.
The Sun is so full of shit I wouldn’t even bother wiping my arse with it.
Gotcher.
Nasty comment = Labour Troll
Your radar’s on the blink I’m afraid.
I detest the Sun and the Mirror, Labour and the Tories.
Equality of hatred.
Gotcher.
Nasty comment = Paranoid Troll
Actually you may want to paraphrase that, for we have the exclusive rights to having the most shit per page and over charging youto read it.
( . ) ( . )
Labour’s election campaign has started with Gordon Brown’s scorched earth economic policy and an internet onslaught of mass trolling on newspaper and blog comments sites.
Would you vote for five more years of this nightmare?
Obama doing a brill job in memory of those that were killed at Fort Hood.
Why? he speaks as he knows all of them personally and I mean really personaly. Recites life history of all of them and GETS THE NAMES RIGHT AS WELL
Why can’t our fuckwit do that?
check the letter written by the areshole and the argument on the phone and then watch the Fort Hood Obama speech.
Note the huge massive difference
But then of course, even though Obama is now taking a kicking in america, he is one of those people who are ‘comfortable in their own skins’ and good at communication.
As mandy said to damian and derek, in what now seems to be an age ago, gordon is not a person comfortable in his own skin. He is not socially adept. He, like prezza, has a short fuse which explodes into physical violence and temper tantrums. He cannot empathise with real people or the real world. He is an egomaniac.
His eyesight and his handwriting are irrelevant – he is very simply the most incompetent , failed PM of all time.
If his “support” staff weren’t so fucking terrified of flying Nokias one of them might have pointed out the deficiencies in the letter. He has created the dysfunctional environment of which he has now become the victim.
And did he go because he felt genuinely moved by the death of these young men and the grief of their families??
Or did he go because, God forbid!! he thought he could get some media attention and make some political capital out of this labour generated tragedy?!!
As usual Nell you miss the point
anybody can go to pay their respects regardless of who you are
he stood on a quiet corner refused to make any political comment and was not harassed by any egg throwing, police beating, property destroying, freedom of speech denying fascist
He was just paying his respects as we all would if we got the chance.
now he has set the mark the other party leaders would only be seen as using it for political capitol
That’ll be why he was talking to Sky then!!!!
Griffin talked to Sky because they spotted him and approached him for an interview as was clear to anyone watching the report. As it happened he refused to get into a long discussion and just made it clear he was there to quietly pay his respects to the dead.
What’s wrong with that?
Of course, he did not think , at such a high profile public event , he would be spotted . Did he???
I guess he and his bodyguards hid in the crowd or behind a tree did they/he???
And by the way Bring Them Home – we all have the chance – just go and do it sometime – its humbling!!
Poor Nell is as thick as shit. Probably all that inbreeding round the Fens.
Still, I hear she plays a mean banjo and is auditioning for the remake of Deliverence.
Oh Dear the hasbeenpee have just arrived.
griffen – the man who wants to put our disabled children into institutions and keeps two pigs in his backyard called Anne and Frank because he likes to be reminded of how painfully one little jewish girl died in Belsen under hitler.
griffen, gordon and bliar just the sort of heartwarming, caring, human beings we need in British politrics.
Oh dear. This site used to be cutting edge once.
Whatever happened to “Peter Hitchens”, Old Holborn, 45Govt etc etc
Now we seem to be stuck with political retards like ‘Nell’ and loonietunes like ‘thick as thieves’.
You can play a mean banjo with 6 fingers on each hand.
BTW, it’s Deliverance.
Old Nell has 6 fingers on each hand. Is that good?
If Nick Griffin wanted media attention then surely he would have tipped off the media but as the Daily Mail admits, he was only spotted by chance and he was keeping a low profile.
Hardly a publicity stunt !
‘Only spotted by chance’ !!!!
LOL
Which of his many shaven headed body guards was seen by Sky first????
Boring, Nell, boring. You’re the last one here.
Please turn out the light before you go.
No HJ .
You need to explain Griffen’s two pigs called Anne and Frank that he keeps in his backyard to remind him about the painful death of that little girl who died in Belsen under Hitler first.
Then we’ll turn the lights out on the hasbeenpee.
most of the serving and ex soldiers have shaved heads !
Nell wake up and smell the cordite !
you really do come out with some crap !
Good article.
“the Mirror is made up news…”
No joking?. You aint seen nothing. Even worse is its sister paper in Scotland the Daily Record.
Its rumoured it is part of a network connected directly to Labour Party headquarters and including BBC Scotland (that icon of impartiality), The Herald and The Scotsman, with a soundbite a second coming out.
Guido you tend to fight for what is right. How about doing something for Scotland and expose all these crooked manipulators because there is no one in the Scottish media who will do it.
Yes Guido , we really could use some help with the dreadful BBBC Scotland and the equally dreadful print media.
There is an important by election going on up here and ” impartiality” has’nt made it to the starting gate.
And I am absolutely sure that Mr Megrahi will be mentioned in the usual ad nauseum Glencambelly way, not to mention the Orangemen coming out in support of Labour, accompanied by the vested interest of a Labour supporting CBI chap and of course – it being Glasgow and footie mad- we have Sir Alec Ferguson supporting Labour.
In amongst this every anti SNP story that the media can muster from the likes of Maddox ,Barnes and even the loveable ,blubber ball Brian Taylor.
Add to the list those Scotsmen and women who write scathingly of Scotland and the SNP in such revered papers as the Times, Telegraph and Guardian, and even if Scots were inclined to think the Union worth saving, the sheer barrage of anti SNP propaganda with which the media deluges the folk of Scotland on a daily basis , would convince that independence is the devils work and we should all tug our apathetic forelocks and accept a distasteful status quo.
http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=15299
How long will this post stay on Whites Guardian blog
“Its great to see self righteous Lefties and Guardianistas squirming and frothing with anger over this. The bottom line is that this rotten New Labour project has made a living out of smearing its opponents in the last twelve years. Now we are supposed to feel sympathy for Brown after everything he has got up to, (smeargate for one example) I dont think so.
There has never been the slightest reticence among the left wing establishment, (the BBC, channel 4, the guardian, mirror etc etc etc) to get stuck into the tories at every opportunity but when the bully Brown gets a taste of his own medicine then its indignation all round.
Bring on the Election so we can be rid of this obnoxious bunch of neo communists.”
Most of my comments on the matter, vanished never to be seen again.
Pity you don’t.
You know I can’t wait to see what Guido will write about a Tory Govt – if we get one.
It all depends on….
a) If an election is called.
b) How many Patels can be persuaded to send in postal votes.
Probably not much different to the stuff he writes about the Layabout government. You really haven’t quite got it yet have you. Unlike you Guido is not a tory/liberal/layabout stooge.
look around you at all the little girls squealing “Labour Trolls!” if they don’t agree with Fawkes or The Sun
fuckwit
I’m no fan of Gordon Brown but like millions of other fair minded folk, I am sickened by the way he is being bullied by this vengeful old hag who is clearly screwed up and vicious, and her unscrupulous minders at The scummy Sun who are waving tenners in her direction.
Slimy Cameron is probably behind all of this like the cynical vote-grabbing Etonian snob he is.
Sorry old love, satire clearly isn’t your forte
Jane, you sound like a genuine, caring person.
Blyad!
“I’m no fan of Gordon Brown but like millions of other fair minded folk”
It’s nice to see fair-minded folks are not fans of Gordon Brown.
hang on ive just been sick all over my new laptop.fuck off your spoiling my night on here im having a relaxing night with my red wine reading this lively and interesting coments on this site.
CAPTAIN WE CANNAE KEEP UP THIS EFFORT
I am bad
Don’t worry everyone Meesta Brown said Panzer tank division reinforcements will come soon.
Heil Brown.
I do believe we have them on the run.
correct.
Brilliant thread at CiF
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2009/nov/10/analysis-gordon-brown-jacqui-janes
“What a horrible woman.”
“complaining to the Sun about both Brown’s condolence letter and then his phone call is fairly despicable”
“this awful women”
“Jacqui Janes sounds like a total cretin”
“I think the ‘Janes woman’ is dispicable…To then tape and publish a private phone call demonstrates how sick some people are. ”
The bleeding heart of the left, just oozing compassion.
Someone print screen the whole lot for later use.
The Guardian is next on the hit list after the BBC.
ZEY ARE ON ZE LIST!!!!!!
I VILL PERSONALLY CALL ZEM NAMES!!
I wonder if any of them have family in Afghanistan??
Not likely is it?
In fact the one truth about Labour is that none of them have family in the military. I wonder why???
Print screen them, save all on the screenshots, upload them to photobucket, then harrass the commentators at every turn.
It is what Labour and the left wing do to the public and think it is a legal tactic, It is about time the tables where turned and the hunters became the hunted.
I’m sure they are shitting themselves at the thought of a right-wing wanker like yourself stalking them on the internet
truly! you sound as hard as cameron’s diarrhea
Give him time.He’s the 14 year old Willy Hague of our time.He could be leader by 2039.Meantime,he’s wanking like a teenager does.
Not true – my brother was in the army out in the Balkans.
Jesus.
What fucking despicable people. Not all of those are astroturfers, I recognise some of those names from my time at CiF. This is the true fac eof the Left. Bitter, hateful, envious, ignorant, cruel. There are the death camp guards, there is the dark heart that plots genocide. Monstrous people. And so convinced of their purity, their rightousness – that’s why they are so dangerous. In fact, I saw some of those same names screeching hate at Jan Moir for her mild criticism of that Gately feller – angry that his relatives were being discomforted; yet now, they screech hatred at a mother whose son has been, literally, blown to pieces, because she dares to face up to their darling fucking labour party.
There is nothign in this world I hate more than socialists. I keep telling myself I should meet them half way, try to find common ground. But it just can’t be done. Theyr’e utterly alien to me. Wholly evil. Oh they think they’re the good guys, but scrath ‘em, and it’s black wretched poison, right the way through. Like Blackpool rock cored with cyanide.
Yep. Just been over there for a look. Kerrist. Apparently Mrs Janes is not behaving quite as she should after her son got blown to bits. It seems she should just grieve quietly at home and not make a big fuss. Doesn’t she know the Maximum Imbecile has a dodgy eye?
They miss so many points. They don’t question Brown’s motivation for writing these letters in the first place. They don’t question why it was Brown himself who, when none the relatives had failed to credit him with taking time to write decided to ‘leak’ the news about what a caring chap he was by informing the world that he writes letters to the relatives of the dead. Which rather gives the game away about the real purpose of the letter writing. What’s the point of taking time to write private letters to prove what a great chap you are if nobody hears about it eh?
All bed-wetting about Mrs Janes recording a private conversation. No revelling in the fact that under Brown all our conversations are prone to be recorded by any little shit-arse council apparatchik.
Jackasses. As you say – camp commandants all.
Marvel at this gem from one ‘LairdKeir’…
This woman has now lost my sympathy through her underhanded actions.
ie Her son is dead but now that she’s recorded Gordon Brown in a phonecall and exposed him, once again, as being incapable of admitting he made a mistake, well, I mean frankly, it’s just impossible to have any sympathy for the woman.
And we’re supposed to believe this ’spontaneous’ outpouring of support for the Maximum Imbecile is being carried out by sane, rational people.
The very fact that the number comments from new faces here goes through the roof every time comrade Brownstainovich gets a kicking in the press indicates to me that it is orchestrated. BTW where is that tosser Derek Draper? Has he decided to emigrate like that other prick Elton now that his beloved Layber Pahtee are fucked?
This is a particularly good example;
gruenebaum
11 Nov 2009, 8:19AM
British soldiers are volunteers.
Soldiers are there to “export violence” to quote an US Marines commander in Iraq.
The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are part of an American policy agenda which has problematic motivations, to say the least.
The way Western high-tech armies wage war results in significant civilian casualties and material damage.
If I were Brown I wouldn’t apologise at all: The young man took a deliberate risk and died in the process. The only regret is that he did not live long enough to consider his own morality in all of this.
gruenebaum does seem to have a tenuous grip on reality. Either that or our Armed Forces are fighting wars by themselves without instruction from the Labour goverment.
Griffin’s party are currently at over 30% in the latest poll in Barking and Dagenham and almost as high in Thurrock where Griffin is standing.
Enough to win the seat?
All they need is 25%, I think for a seat, but don’t quote me, been a long time since I was in politics.
Let’s hope not!!!!
British politics have sunk low enough with gordon. It’s time to drag ourselves out of the pig trough, and griffen knows all about that!!
We now need a decent government to rebuild our standing in the world. griffen and his yobs aren’t intellectually or morally capable of being any part of that!!
I doubt if any body would be stupid enough to vote for griffin. when he put a double barrel shotgun in his mouth and blew his own brains out on question time that was the end for griffin.
so the bn p has two problems: their leader blew his brains out and the British public are, having defeated hitler, inherently anti-fascist.
as the bn p is a hitlerite nazi party, anyone who votes for them should be shot in the back of the head really.
no joke.
Fawkes has already deleted one of my posts today simply because I had a kind word for the B=N=P so this probably won’t last long.
Nell – do try to spell the guy’s name correctly from the elevation of your lofty steed; but you’re right – he certainly is aware of and despises the troughing from the public purse by Lib/Lab/Con/UKIP carpetbaggers.
As for Top Twat, the only (sick) joke in your post is its originator.
The continual attacks on the party that must not be named and its leader are thoroughly misguided and foolish.
They look like what they are; knee jerk hatred and insults with no logic behind them. It makes the critics look far worse than the party that must not be named.
It will backfire horribly.
Sheesh, some fucking village has lost it’s idiot.
Yes it has.Shouldn’t you go home now?
none shall pass moley.
none shall pass.
This site used to be cutting edge once.
Whatever happened to “Peter Hitchens”, Old Holborn, 45Govt etc etc
Now we seem to be stuck with political retards like ‘Nell’ and loonietunes like ‘thick as thieves’.
Don’t you mean The Hitch ( now The Beast of Clerkenwell)? And Old Holborn still posts regularly if you care to have a look.
I know what you mean though.
It still is cutting edge ‘davie hasbeenpee’ and you were never one of those who made it so.
As for Tat I’m sure he’ll give his own kickin’ in his own time.
I do wonder, and no doubt guido is watching and considering, that the ‘hasbeenpee’ on here tonight are labour trolls trying to smear this blog with beanpea pig manure, just as they have today tried to smear jacqui janes on various blogs.
Nell! Is there anybody who isn’t a labour troll?
Dear Len
You don’t have to be one if you don’t want.
We can all be independent thinkers.
We don’t have to be told what to think, what to post . Step back give your brain freedom and ask yourself does gordon look like he is doing ‘the right thing’??
Whooosh!
We’re all individuals!
I’m not
Shhh!
hey davey, why don’t you fuck off then? eh?
wanker.
this is the golden age of political blogging but you are such a retard you cannot see the genius and history being made in front of your own eyes you tired old c’unt.
you are an old fogey. please crawl away and die in dark corner.
thankyou.
Fuck off you old woman.
we know that is you davey. why post under another name? creepy.
you fucking idiot.
you are clearly the old woman in this sketch you c’unt.
Now that’s more like the old tat; well done.
45Govt still posts on the Telegraph blogs and still dishes out a good shellacking to David Dee and all the other liberal fuckwits.
Six months away and already the election fight is getting vicious
This could be a good ‘un.
I clicked the M White link above – first time I’d read his work. He really IS a retard isn’t he? I mean a 17 year old at my school would have been suspended for writing shit like that.
Jesus Christ I’ve read more of that guardian paper this evening. It really makes the efforts of lower IVb look like Nobel Peace Prize material. I’m rather scared now. These idiots have INFLUENCE? Every monosyllable of every word is idiotic. Tosspot White says the Sun is wrong because it’s Murdoch. So what fucking party was Murdoch supporting most of the past 12 years you rat’s bile?
They don’t call it the Grauniad for nothing…..
I guess he knows his audience
If the various online papers get together and compare the various IP addresses of these trolls – and if they were the same people posting pro govt spam then questions would need to be asked.
Are their IP addresses dedicated to any specific govt servers?
Dear, oh dear. You nip off to watch James May’s meccano programme, and the whole blog falls apart.
You wonder what Bunker Control are saying to the minions. Something along the lines of, “Right, lads, we’ve had a good day on the Mail and the Grauniad, and of course the easy shift at the Beeb. Now it’s after six, so Master Baiter’s knocked off – or possibly knocked one off – so everyone over to Guido’s for the evening. His stats could do with upping a bit. The B&P mob are dropping in later, so it should be a bit of a party.”
What a way to run a government…..
Transcript of BBC News today:
Beeboid: we now have Yvette Trotskyballs of the independent charity Army Wives’ Association for Labour. Mrs Trotskyballs, what do you make of this row about Lettergate? It’s not Gordon Brown’s fault, is it?
Mrs. Trotsky: I feel sorry for Gordon Brown because he has tried his best. This is just an attempt to smear him. He has bad eyesight, that’s all. He put more money into military spending whereas the party opposite will cut funding to our brave boys.
Beeboid: Thank you. Dame Suzi Leatherpants is an eminent graphologist and she is in the studio. Dame Suzi, what do you make of Gordon Brown’s handwriting, bearing in mind he has poor eyesight?
Dame Suzi: Well, he has poor eyesight but his writing is superb: it shows compassion, leadership and inspiration. I know the prime minister has these qualities because he made me a life peer, even though I am a completely non-partisan member of the Labour Party.
Beeboid: Thank you. I am joined by Lord Mandelson. Lord Mandelson, The Sun is just Murdoch filth, isn’t it?
Mandelson: Yes, and I would just like to add…
Beeboid: That it is just a plot by the Tories to smear the prime minister, who suffers from poor eyesight?
Mandelson: Yes, and…
Beeboid: Thank you. I am joined by Kevin Maguire of the Mirror. Mrs. Janes is just a Tory stooge, isn’t she? Gordon Brown is a honourable man who just suffers from poor eyesight, surely?
Maguire: Yes. This will backfire on Druggie Dave.
Beeboid: Thank you. So the Tories have real questions to answer about this so-called Lettergate incident. Nick Robinson, can David Cameron avoid a split in his ranks? Should he resign?
[continued ad nasueam]
Fuck me, that was just like the real thing.
You know its right
When the Tory conference started before a word had been spoken they (BBC) were really going on splits over Europe and everything else. It was the first thing the BBC said and did not stop
There was none of that at the start of the Labour conference
BBC meant to be impartial to the British public. Sorry you are no longer that and therefore be free to follow the doctrine or party you want to but DO NOT make me and the rest of us pay for it under law.
When the Tories win you will be the firts to be dimantled get ready and get used to it.
Dream on,twat!
“It’s all going to be so different when Daves in”
The main difference being that a sociopath will no longer be PM.
Other than that,no change then.
The army wives association of labour will have an ever increasing membership under Brown
And as for brown he is a c*nt a nasty unelected (and judging by the hand writing) Unemployable illiterate waste of space
he would struggle to get a job at McDonalds
That’s a keeper.
Oh it’s supposed to be satire!
just without the wit or insight
shame it’s crap
simply a look into the warped paranoid minds of most of the window-lickers on this site who are lunatic enough to believe it’s true
so in a way it IS satire
just not on who you think it is
Yeah, Guido is gutted that his website is one of the most read political blogs on the web.
Now fuck off back to Labourwrist you sad loser.
NICK GRIFFIN DID NOT BLOW HIS OWN BRAINS OUT ON QT
HE DID NOT MAKE A COMPLETE FUCKING COCK OF HIMSELF
OR EMBARRASS HIMSELF BY ACTING LIKE A RETARDED CRIPPLE
IT IS NOT TRUE THAT NICK IS A RAPIST OR SEX PEST
IT IS NOT TRUE THAT HE IS A HEROIN AND CRACK COCAINE ADDICT
IT IS TRUE THAT THE WE ARE A WHITE SUPREMACIST ORGANISATION WHO WOULD DEPORT ANYONE WHO IS NOT WHITE BECAUSE WE ARE FASCIST RACISTS WHOSE MAIN PURPOSE IS TO CAUSE SOCIAL DIVISION AND CONFLICT IT IS ALSO TRUE THAT AS WE ARE FASCISTS WE ARE ANTI DEMOCRACY AND ANTI ROYALTY OUR MISSION IS TO CREATE A FASCIST REPUBLIC IN A WHITE BRITAIN
SHOULDN’T I HAVE PUT THAT LAST BIT IN NICK? BUT I’VE ALREADY PRESSED THE….
TwAT Say something constructive or SHUT THE FUCK UP !
there is no need to shout.
manners maketh man.
top boy has spoken.
Says the” LITTLE BOY “who posts in capitals
no appeals will be heard.
Bruin has another optical deficiency as well. He’s colour blind. Can’t see the colour red – well, not on the nation’s accounts, anyway.
Oh dear Eng . I wish you hadn’t said that.
Gordon couldn’t see, or feel, or understand, red – the colour of Blood could he???
I really feel the anger, the rage and the despair that the mother’s, the wives, sisters.brothers.son’s, daughter’s father’s etc feel for those we are losing in Afghanistan to gordon’s Indifference!!!!!
Sorry, but red is just a colour.
Perhaps i’ve got an underveloped sense of synthesia or something.
LIke gordon you just have an under-developed sense of , feeling and life.
I think what saddens me more than anything else is that I can’t help feeling that someone high in government is trying to spin the whole thing. I don’t really want to comment about Mrs Janes, because grief is incredibly personal, and different people react in different ways. Maybe Broon tried to do the right thing in writing a letter of condolence, but bungled it by making the letter look so poorly put together. But for me, the really insulting thing is the use of the bunker troll team to spin and smear. Broon should have accepted that he’d caused offence, even if it was inadvertent, made a public apology, and left it at that – but no, it has to be ‘damage limitation’, ‘news management’ – which just makes it so much worse.
I gather that most of the telephone call betweem Bruin and Mrs. Janes was her expressing her anger at equipment shortages. Well, that’s a well-discussed topic here of course, and the buck stops very firmly with Bruin. Even he has to accept that.
Eng. You are very wise.
But gordon is never going to accept that troop shortages and lack of equipment are what are causing our losses. His egomania won’t allow it.
He is an Evil! Evil! man!!!!
nell You are very stupid
But twats are never going to accept that an idiotic war is what are causing our losses. Their egomania won’t allow it.
you are a stupid stupid! woman!!!!
Jesus. What a pack of absolute belming retards read this site.
Enjoy your circle jerk.
Feel at home?
Why don’t you fuck off to a web site that hardly anybody reads like Labourwrist then? I’m sure you’ll feel more at home there with the rest of the dullards.
Wicked!!!!!!!!!!
bob’ll be back for more though, they always come back for more.
you’re a fucking hypocrite bob.
Oooh, sorry. I’ve just cum.
Correct your reading it !
Retard !
Bob are you the pivot man?
They don’t like it up ‘em!
BBC vermin at it again. Did you see that? A screen grab of astroturf comments on the Sun site “Id ont’ normally support Gordon Brown but…” and then Robinson again says “and the overwhelming majority of comments sent to the BBC are supportive of Gordon Brown”
Bastards. These people are shameless. Shameless. They’re gleefully locked together in this miasma of lies, they seen no wrong in what they’re doing, because the *cause*, supporting labour, is just, they reckon.
This is undeclared civil war.
I saw it too. How the four eyed twat kept a fucking straight face I don’t know. Oh wait a minute, I do….it’s because he’s a crooked, ZaNuLab apparatchik сunt.
65 comments from “Mike Naylor” in favour.
6 against.
Nobody else could get a word in edgeways; comments from “Mike Naylor” coming every minute.
What makes it worse is that Robinson knows he is lying and he doesn’t care.
The BBC is breaking its charter and abusing the people of thic country.
Stop paying for it.
Some of us never started.
Let’s leave dozy Nell muttering to herself now she’s bored everyone else into deserting this blog.
You haven’t deserted . More’s the pity! You dozy boring idiot!!!
I see the last 4 posts were from dozy Nell.
Let’s leave her muttering inanely to herself now that she’s driven everyone else away from this blog in boredom.
Its a laugh that the cantevenpee party are trying to take over this blog isn’t it?
They couldn’t take over the sootie and sweep show.
They are even more inept than gordon!!!!
And if you are bored darilng then please leave
We shan’t miss you!!!
OT: what happened to that uddin woman … was she made to be quitted yet or is it one of those things that gets forgotten till the next time whilst she stays on the taxtit?
Don’t be silly . Labour person that she is- she is being waited on in her marble palace(built with our money) by her servants (paid poorly with our money) who are living in poverty at the bottom of her garden.
labour = equality= not even remotely possible !!!
goodnight nell and God Bless.
and God Bless the soldiers in Afghanistan tonight.
This is a spoof, right?
Not gone to bed yet TAT!!
Too much to debate for a bit!!!!
Some obsessive poster who calls herself/himself ‘nell’ seems to believe that anyone who disagrees with him/her is either a “beanpea’er” (sic) or a “Labour troll”.
No wonder it’s quiet round here at night when this idiot is posting.
If you had been on here long enough you’d know I’m a her.
Furthermore you’d know I am 1) anti labour and 2) anti can’tpeeornythingelsefor thatmatter.
At the moment the burning question on here is why has griffen named two pigs in his backyard Anne and Frank to remind him of a vulnerable little girl, who was by the by jewish and who died a painful death in Hitler’s Belsen Death Camp????
Sigh!! I bet you know the answer. You are one of his aren’t you?!!!
I have to say Nell, that whilst that makes a good story; we don’t actually know if it is true.
I am open to the possibility that somebody might have made it up.
Sometimes people do not tell the truth, particularly if they want to smear somebody.
The end does not justify the means and it never did.
FFS! You should know better. She’ll be screetching “Labour Troll” at you tomorrow.
Great article on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_OK,_You%27re_OK#Four_life_positions
The phase “I’m OK, You’re OK” is apparently one of four life positions that each of us may take:
1. I’m Not OK, You’re OK
2. I’m Not OK, You’re Not OK
3. I’m OK, You’re Not OK
4. I’m OK, You’re OK
Brown is well and truly planted in 3.
Where have all the anti war loons gone? Normally we have Tony Benn, Tariq Ali and Lyndsey German oh and Galloway on backing the dead soldiers families, yet funnily enough on the BBC today not a single one has been seen.
Where have all the anti war lot gone?
Busy making hay (troughing) while the sun shines.
Well I am sorry but I think the people you have named don’t oppose wars waged by the labour party.
Presumably, should the labour party win the next election, they will attempt to wage war on iran, and those people you mention won’t even raise their voice against that war either.
Labour isn’t about common sense or reason .
Well I am sorry but I think Dave and the Conservatives don’t oppose wars waged by the labour party.
Presumably, should the conservative party win the next election, they will attempt to wage war on iran, and the twats cheering the war on here won’t even raise their voice against that war either.
Canservatives aren’t about common sense or reason .
loadsamoneeeeee…….
I bet if any money changed hands between Jacqui Janes and the sun it ended up in Help for Heroes or some such charity.
Jacqui Janes and her sons are fifth generation armed forces.
Labour, given it’s back stabbing history, doesn’t understand that sort of loyalty.
Mrs Janes has apparently started a charity which will provide money for soldiers to buy the kit they need, (and which the MOD does not supply) before they are posted.
Telegraph had it I think.
mrs.janes has now apologised to me for phoning me and admitted that it is her fault that her son joined the army and that she was in fact responsible for the afghan war.
she also apologised for severely injuring me with a rugby tackle and for forging a letter using photoshop(whatever that is).
mrs.janes has now confessed that she let in millions of illegal immigrants,set up 100+ stealth taxes and wasted £billions of oil and gas revenue.
she also regrets that she gave china and india lots of our money for them to build nuclear weapons and send rockets to the moon.
finally mrs.janes admitted to falsifying the governments economic figures and burdening the uk with £3 trillion of debt.
signed grodnon bwron
It’s going to be a very dirty election campaign.
Labour have no valid defence for all the things they’ve done (and continue to do). The only approach available to them is to lie, cheat, and smear, using the BBC as their mouthpiece.
Murdoch’s no fool though; he knows that if people have a choice of believing brown/labour, or sky/sun, they’d tend to believe sky/sun, so labour’s approach will end up making their own situation even worse.
It’s a win-win situation for murdoch; if labour tell the truth then nobody would ever vote for labour again. If labour lie then murdoch will expose the lies and nobody will be listening to what labour say. Either way murdoch wins.
Murdoch chose the perfect story this week; the letter and Brown’s refusal to apologise about it has turned a massive proportion of swing-voters against labour, and it showed even more people just how much labour refuse to admit when they get something wrong.
That story and Brown’s reaction showed perfectly how labour put their own personal media-image above everything else, even if that means arguing with and lying to a beareaved relative of someone who died for the country.
Brown argued with and lied to that poor women purely because he didn’t want to admit that he’s ever capable of making any mistakes. It was absolutely unforgiveable. Who in their right mind would ever vote for a bastard like that?
so·cial·ist (sosha-list)
n.
1. An advocate of socialism.
2. often Socialist. A member of a political party or group that advocates socialism.
3. Putrid psuedo-humans who are able to dish it out with relish but run off crying to their mummy when they are on the receiving end. Hypocrites.
Wow!..this place has gone crazy tonight.
I went out to a meeting and come back to an overt all out war….
..except that I sense this is all a put up job.
Is it a new tactic?…get all the trolls to post aggressive Mrs Janes vs Gordon Brown vs The Sun comments to give the illusion of open hostility towards each other.
Nah..I don’t buy it guys..far too obvious and easily spotted..
Or is it?..especially if the players in this particularly inhumane game are mentally retarded.
Message to HQ…it ain’t working..think up another little scam to fool the masses.
“Three more drugs advisers resign”
After their meeting with Alan Johnson today, they realised he is a complete twat…the only required trait to be part of the Labour party.
The Government of all the talents (GOATS)
They have all deserted the labour ship – Why is that???!!!
they are scientific advisors and resigned bacause Alan Johnson is an extremely silly scientifically illiterate dimwit
Calling Nell…
A quick look at posts 564 and 565 (and possibly 599) prove a point.
They are obviously the same person using different personas..yet this person is too stupid to realise that their language is one and the same.
So..you have a moral victory in grabbing their attention.
Well done.
Nell’s a celebrity.She’s got her own stalker.That’s fame!
One of the tactics I have seen is to victimise individuals in a concerted attack, hoping to drive them away.
I have a feeling that it’s aimed more at Guido personally and has less to do with politics.
. . . (desperately trying to salvage the disreputable reputation of Gorgon the fearty Moron by reconciling opposing ‘factoids’)
Yeah but No but . . . . yeah He can see – but No he can’t really see and he deserves your sympathy, ‘ n that, innit.
He can’t spell kniva.
However, we can say that 57,000 million tractors were produced last month.
57,000 million UK children were lifted out of abject poverty by Our Glorious and Beloved Leader.
57,000 million t alibs were admitted to YUK
and 57,000 million YUK people were reintroduced to work. (in local Govt)
That is all.
Get Stuffed why don’t you!
Final comments on the main story.
Number of issues have come to the fore.
First is if we go to war soldiers will die.
Second, in war shit happens, we cannot run a war based on individual events.
Thirdly, bereaved parents are not the correct people to develop strategy.
Fourthly, for any aprent to lose a child is a huge tragedy.
Fifthly, did this all start in the last week, month, year, decade?
On the specifics, will we ever know what happened and on the principle that if yer auntie had balls she would be your uncle, would extra helicopters have saved the poor guys life? Will we ever know for sure?
This story is very much one of its time.
The Scum is throwing its weight about with GB firmly in its sights.
Semen and his acolytes are going to rant no matter what GB does.
Consequently why has this death played out the way it has?
Is it only recently that political failings have caused casualties?
If yes then people have forgotten about Gallipolli.
If yes people have forgotten about Dieppe.
If yes, then why is that when in all other areas of life a “Health and Safety” culture has reduced death rates in a whole swathes of human endeavour?
My answer is that we are only hearing about it because it suits not the grieving parent but the agenda of specific papers.
Where was the press outcry over Suez when the paras were forced to jump without a reserve parachute?
Where was the press outcry over Suez and the lack of carrier based performance jets?
Where was the press outcry over the Falklands where mistakes meant that the whole fleet of Chinnooks was lost due to the Atlantic Conveyor debacle?
Where was the press outcry over the Welsh Guards being caught onboard un protected LST’s?
One thing for sure is that in both these conflicts squaddies bled to death on the battlefield due to a lack of medical care / enemy action. However I don’t think the issue ever made the front pages of the papers.
All I remember about the Falklands was the promotion of Simon Weston as the only injured soldier to make the TV. Why was that?
Given all that happened, a political failure leading to the loss of territory followed up by their retaking on a wing and prayer, surely the papers should have been full of questions over why it happened and who was responsible for the heavy loss of life?
The issue becomes why not then and why now?
The MOD has a long track record of failing the people on the front line.
Consequently why is it only now that we get to hear about in terms that show that it is the politicians to blame?
Somebody is playing games here?
Why is there no debate about the use of MOD funds to send the sprogs of the officer corp to private schools?
Possibly because so many in the press, or more appropriately their parents have used it to their advantage.
Something has to give.
We have a high cost low output Armed Forces.
Those at the bottom are on shit money and live in shit accommodation.
Somebody somewhere is benefitting from a culture that measures procurement in terms of decades of delay and billions of cost overruns.
Consequently I accuse the MOD desk jockeys, the MOD middle class welfare state and British Waste of Space.
What’s all this bollocks got to do with the current Gordon Brown PR disaster, you dopey twat?
Who are funded by whom exactly?
Er….. The Treasury, perhaps??
No fucker says the MOD isnt full of fuckwits and that yes, there is blame to be apportioned within.
But it always has been and always will be an organ of government policy.
if you were that serious about it, you would have had 4 defence secretaries in as many years, one of the fuckers being a part timer for fucks sake and you would fund them properly.
And who made that decision?
That one eyed megalomaniacal fuckwit Brown.
So kindly fuck off and boil your fucking head.
Doctor lover — Patter’s shite by the way.
Answer the questions ya muppet.
As usual with “Spunky Spunky” and the Militant Wing of the Green Ink Brigade who call it home it is all a big boys fault and he ran away.
No questions about corporate tax.
If NI / the Scum / KY TV make shed loads of money in the UK but don’t pay any tax on it who does that effect and who makes up the difference?
NI / the Scum / KY TV take money of the squaddies, make profits of the squaddies but don’t put anything back in tax to fund the squaddies.
You and the other “GIBys” on here swallow it whole.
Ask the real questions
Target the real villains in all of this.
Tower Hamlets council (Labour dominated) passed a planning consent for the News International site tonight.
Fuck the party.We’re talking big backhanders here.
Tat
I know you are going to keep this lot in line
‘Night. God bless!!
The main justification offered by the Government for keeping troops in Afghanistan is rejected by the majority of British people, a new opinion poll for The Independent shows today. Four out of five of those questioned do not believe that British involvement in the conflict, with its rising toll of casualties, is keeping the streets of Britain safe from terrorist attacks.
The findings come as senior commanders have begun warning that the next few months will see intensifying military action, and that British forces will be expected to play a full part. There is no question of British troops “retreating to safer areas”, senior Nato officials stressed.
In direct contradiction of the Government’s position, almost half, or 46 per cent, of those surveyed held that the presence of British forces in the US-led war actually increased the threat of attacks in the country by creating anger and resentment among the Muslim population
G’Night . God Bless.
Please keep our troops safe!
gordo , griffen and their trolls really don’t give a toss.
But the rest of us do!!!!!
G’Night . God Bless.
Please keep our troops safe!
Cameo and their trolls really don’t give a toss.
But the rest of us do!!!!! it’s great to play politics on the back of dead troops
That only works if you have never sacrificed one or more of your own!!
Have you???
I had to sacrifice Anne,or was it Frank?I can’t remember,but anyway i had nothing to go with the eggs.
yeah!
you can’t criticise Camoron and the Tories for backing the Afghan disaster unless you have a dead relative!
But you can criticise Bruin for backing the Afghan disaster even if you don’t have a dead relative
Simples!
(is she normally this stupid?)
So eight Chinooks can’t fly because of lack of software, are we on the same side ask the septic tanks.
then again again a anti English scottish hiposcacy for twelve years Mr nations and regions to an Englishman is as good as rivers of blood to an Irishman
Who’s Griffen?
Martin Webster’s gay lover
G’Night Guido. God Bless!!
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Swedish PM confirms EU President will be chosen on 19 November.
Goodbye suckers.
What we have seen today has nothing to do with politics, it is raw tribalism.
Fear and hatred are the dominant emotions.
It will bring out the best in some people and the worst in others.
It has more to do with the mob than with democracy, and we can expect much more of the same.
“It will bring out the best in some people and the worst in others.”
It will bring every crackpot out of the woodwork.You are witnessing the waters slowly rising to the top of the levee.When the dyke bursts,it will be with a rush.Look at New Orleans.Within 24 hours,total anarchy took hold.That’s how fragile modern democracies are.
I thought camerons Hugo Young lecture speech was worthy in that it picked out some of the problems , but as sure as he makes a counter point on the state up pops polly trying to frame it differently as mear nectar gathering .
The “fink” has made perhaps the most direct attack yet on the nectar gathering of David Milliband , CW thinks its question is devastingly correct , having delivered lisbon via a commons majority pistol and hand over of the valuables and not by any respect of Uk democracy , kicking back the chair waiting for lisbon to kick in to make hay from , sums him up quite well .All too remiscent of being made chairman when you have betrayed your own company into the arms of the competition . CW thinks Dm doesnt really know much about anything and therefore cannot make the case for the job , he was just another Blair add on , who had found that words can bamboozle people rather than make society , and you can make plenty of money as well .
NN was interesting in that yvettes case started to wobble as soon as paxman found the failiure within the failiure , which Therresa missed , those blair era words that come back to haunt , however Paul Masons look at the figures was interesting as it made me think how dangerous immigration was from 1985 being as we started the great delayering and into modern slim effeicent multitasking workforce , which gave us a competaive boom and began putting the finaces in order after the callaghan disaterous ending of labour .
Yvettes case was startling in that it was ignorant of the fact that saving the banks meant a depression and that this goverment just meanderd on trying to stablise the meltdown yet keeping the fuel source going CW is convinced that Labour have wasted at least 18 months of vital time in mitigating a national diaster , it isnt so much that hoping these toxic debts would turn slightly sweeter , its the dithering and incompetance at the rate at which they could turn sweeter , and the resultant borrowings to bodge the error .
the ruin now has created massive borrowings on top of slow sweetening of the toxic , and created a truly impossible gap for the next governemnt to try and right .
The idea that globalisation would float all boats totally missed individual countries exposure to finance and manufacture , as some countries were clearly carrying more of the risk of globalisation than others , but Cw thinks it always did whiff of marxism hence its inability to tackle planet death pollution senario and its whacky corporate solutions .
So is it gonna be mean and dirty ?, Cw thinks the ruin is incredibly lucky in that dumbing down has meant that people no longer know how to make pitch forks or use them and instead play it on a console, for if they did, you could almost picture this lot joing Ben Elton on an idi amin hurridly arranged special flight out of here into exile .
guido were you moderating your blogg between 2am and 3 am and removed my post , if it wasnt you you are hacked !
opps its back how did that happen ??? sorry guido , honestly it wasnt there when i checked
It’s the aliens.
Just wrote a post in support of Nell and it’s appeared way before She even wrote it. Weird.
In defence of Nell…
Lots of rubbish being dolled out by Zanu and friends at the moment Nell. It appears the pig names may be one of them. I’ve ran some searches and it appears even the beeandpee’rs don’t believe the pig story. Sorry.
Goes to show just how many left wingers are getting there act together though. Throw enough sh*t and some of it sticks, just look at how the media would now have us believe McDooms letter was ‘from the heart’ and not a hastily written scribble with neither care nor concern for the recipient.
Jesus C. H. Rist. Can you imagine how bad this is going to get come the new year?
“even the beeandpee’rs don’t believe the pig story.”
is that supposed to be a joke???
fuck me but you’re dumb
The longer Brown drags out the inevitable General Election, the result will be worse for Brown and Labour. Brown believes the economy is going to bounce back and with it his good fortune, he is delusional. The economic mess Brown has created will continue for the next few years, and it is going to take financial savvy and quite a bit of pain to come right, the next three years critical. Britain is the financial “sick man of Europe”, Brown has been very bad for Britain as Chancellor and Prime Minister.
The 19th of November the EU are going to crown their “king”, will it be Blair?
I doubt it, Cherie can put away her purple coat methinks.
Everyone loves a surprise at christmas
health reasons
two month leadership contest
election
Does anyone read this blog so early? Only insomniacs or persistent worriers!
Yes I just read the Times article. I remember in the 1960s the Times stood up proud to be the “History of the future” – I even remember the billboard ad. of a microfilm (anyone else remember that?). In those days the Times was not overtly socialist from what I can remember, more a boring sort of broadsheet, with very rambling articles, but it had principles that were to my best of knowledge apolitical.
There seems to me a sort of Griffinesque public sympathy developing for Brown out of the lettergate story, even though we would not put a blind man in charge of a train. The political correctness of this country has, I fear dimmed the eyesight of the many.
I suppose the more erudite of us who try to keep history and politics in perspective remember the films of the Yalta conference where able bodied Churchill was humiliated by Stalin in favour of the wheel chaired Roosevelt. but we are, at length talking of a Communist dictator who was manipulating the US to get control of Eastern Europe; so even there the disability of Roosevelt could be argued to have compromised the free world for at least 40 years.
Surely we have better and more able bodied people who could be relied upon to rescue this country from an ignominious future of dilution and mediocrity?
Jeez. It seems that blindly supporting a party can fuck with the ‘reasoning’ bit of your brain.
Several times recently the Guardian has led with a story only for the BBC to pick up the mantle and also run it as a lead on the radio and TV. I haven’t noticed this happen with any other newspaper.
Gordon’s Starsi want your DNA:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8353824.stm
Oh dear!
sort of blows a hole clean through this Murdoch/Sun puff piece don’t it?
it would appear that those ‘plants’ are everywhere now
look out conspiracy nutters! they are behind you!!
Fresh pressure over the mission was put on the Prime Minister on Tuesday night when 19 Labour MPs backed a call for him to lead an urgent Commons debate. Among the backers of the motion is Kim Howells, chair of the Intelligence and Security Committee who dramatically broke with Government policy last week by calling for the phased withdrawal of the bulk of Britain’s military force from the country.
Expect this to be the first of many such motions and it will get support from the backbenches of all 3 main Parties. Some now, far more every month from now on.
To those Party Leaders going into the election without setting a withdrawall date or calling for a rethink, in the words of Admiral Ackbar, “IT’S A TRAP!”
When Brown goes his replacement will be far more sceptical on the Afghan War. Calling for a complete withdrawall by a year or so may well become the set policy of Labour and the Lib Dems.
This is only going to get far worse with a corrupt bastard like Karzai in charge.
For the benefit of the whingers on here, I will be coming out fighting fit and raring to go and demolish David Cameron at today’s PMQ’s.
I just thought you might like to know
See you there, fatso.
FAncy a run in St James’s PArk afterwards? We could even have a race if you like – bottler!
Labour have obviously fallen out big-time with their former mates at The Sun, and Guido’s analysis of how much it hurts seems plausible. Remember that Mandy called them “Chumps” in a fit of pique, and we still await R Wade’s phonecall recording to prove that’s what he said. Surely Labour would be better off just ignoring it, rather than rising to the bait – but the bunker mentality and Mandy’s/Campbell’s personality traits won’t let them. Brown souinds like a man who holds a grudge as well – so they are doomed to months of pointless cat-fights over every little piece of tittle tattle.
Turning to weightier matters, I see that “Trust Me” Jack has slipped through his secret inquest rules, so watch out anyone who is on their list of undesirables.
Finally, can someone please tell me how many additional helicopters and crews have arrived in Afghanistan this year as Ainsworth and Brown have been doing “everything possible” to get them there? What was the number on 31 Dec 2008, and what is the number now? I know of at least one that has been destroyed, so let’s just hope they have replaced that one. Surely Brown will have a good answer with this to show how he has delivered on his promise and regained our trust…………?
You think the Mirror is bias? you should start reading the Scottish papers
especially the Daily Record (aka Daily Retard) and the Scotsman
The Retard continuelly supports Labour regardless of how bad Labour is and is a joke. The Scotsman have a conveyor belt of anti SNP stories kindly supplied by Labour’s press office. The Scotsmans 2 political ‘editors’ David Maddox and his side kick Peterkin exclusively put their names to anti SNP stories, which are clearly from the Labour party. Not surprisingly both papers circulation is dropping. The Herald (Glasgow based) used to be bad, until their political editor Douglas Fraser left and unsurprisingly joined BBC Scotland (which also employs his wife, another Labourite on Radio Scotland)
You want Bias – go to Scotland and see , hear and read in spades all in favour of Labour
I heard on PM that Peter Mandleson was accusing News International of siding with the Tories in the hope/expectation of future advantage. This overlooks the efforts that New Labour (& Tony Blair in particular) made in cultivating News International, to the extent that Blair actually attended two NI conferences. In addition, according to Peter Oborne’s book ‘The Triumph of the Political Class’ the Labour spin doctor Lance Price’s book draft had to be vetted by No 10. Apparently a third of their objections to the first draft related to the mention of Rupert Murdoch’s name. I wonder why Labour would be so concerned at their top level interactions with Murdoch being revealed?
[...] Tory blogger Guido Fawkes defended the Sun as: This morning’s reporting of Brown’s conversation with Mrs Janes was a good [...]
Difference is, Glenn Beck says things that are demonstrably untrue. Jon Stewart gets laughs out of pointing out the lies.
[...] Labour Looks in the Mirror and Knows It Has Lost Guardianistas and the unpopular parts of the blogosphere are raging about the Sun’s full on assault on Brown and [...] [...]
Have you seen Bea Campbell?
Is that Beatrix Campbell of that infamous leftie trio inc. Hilary Wainwright and one whose name escapes me at the moment?
Popular with Guardian and SWP/Trotskyite types in the eighties, as I recall.
Once seen never forgotten. What a fucking mad old bitch. What’s she done or said now?
You banging the bars on my cage, GF?
For 20 years that bitch has been fantasizing about child abuse where none existed and thus helping to split up families – all the while missing where it was really going on. She has a particularly nasty line in victimizing women, then claiming to be a feminist. When the Stasi files are opened I’m going to personally find out who nominated her for a gong (bet it was her girlfriend) and the prawn who approved it when a quick google of her name would have shown that she ought to have been put firmly in the “We’ll let you know” pile.
Bea Campbell is madder than I am. Bea Campbell is madder than Polly. There are times when Bea Campbell makes Julie Bindel look like a model of rationality.
I take it this is the level of the beanpea’s political debate??
Other than griffens backyard pigs, on his welsh farm, that are named after children who were painfully murdered in hitlers Belsen, what can the hasbeenpee offer us as an electorate???
Nell, do you believe everything that the professional liars of Searchlight tell you or do you ever manage to think for yourself?
Ignore her, she’s thick.
Actually Jed I’m an Independent thinker. I don’t believe anythmmming anyone tells me.
I go away and I research all sources before I make my mind up.
I would most like to know WHY griffen has two pigs in his backyard named after Anne and Frank to remind him how painfully this child died in Belsen at the hands of Hitler.
Why does he think this makes him worthy of holding public office in Britain???
‘ She is thick’
That is really enlightened political debate.
So tell me what can the Beanpea do for middle of the road people like me (middle england) to make us vote for you??
I would most like to know WHY griffen has two pigs in his backyard named after Anne and Frank to remind him how painfully this child died in Belsen at the hands of Hitler.
Are you sure that’s true Nell?
Surely he’d call them Abu and Hamza. Or Mohammed and Ali.
Dissing the Jooz is so old-B&P. I thought Griffin was Nu-B&P with new improved bogiemen who even go to the trouble of actually killing British commuters on British soil. Bogiemen you can really get your teeth into (or at least pick out of the underground with tweezers) instead of some nebulous conspiracy.
Well Nell,if you researched so much how come you can’t even spell his name correctly???? It’s Griffin not Griffen
If what I said was not true jmg, they would not not attack.
Some obsessive poster who calls herself/himself ‘nell’ seems to believe that anyone who disagrees with him/her is either a “beanpea’er” (sic) or a “Labour troll”.
It’s no wonder it’s quiet round here at night when this idiot is posting.
Still waiting for an explanation of those two pigs that griffen keeps in his backyard called Anne and Frank.
When we have that explanation, we middle englanders, floating voters, the one’s who will carry the election, will make our choice.
Go on griffen!!!
Explain why you have named two pigs in your backyard after the sufferings of a poor little jewish girl who died a painful death at the hands of hitler in Belsen.
I’ve got two dog turds in my garden, one called Gordon and one called Toenails.
In the smear i read,it was two rottwielers.
Nells gone to bed.She’s got to get up early to milk the pigs.
griffen and Two rottweilers hmm??
Did he call them call Anne and Frank as well???
Why is he going to such lengths to remind himself of the painful death of a little girl at the hands of hitler in Belsen???
Give it a rest “old timer” You are starting to repeat yourself ! Dont believe all the shit you “research” in the papers ! i am not a bnp voter but after the rigged set up on question time i did feel i wanted to hear what they had to say as did a lot of people as they wern’t given a chance on the prog . so lets wait and see what if anything they have got to say over the next 6 months without reading the shit they put in news papers !
Nell! I’m sorry to disappoint you,but it’s a made up story.A smear.Not one of mine.I’m more imaginative.
It’s “Griffin” you idiot.
Damian . I’m sorry to disappoint you but those two pigs,called Anne and Frank,do really live in griffens backyard.
Like gordon. He really really is a sick man!!!
Of course it will be “moderated” and thenremoved because it has the words of BEELZEBUB in its content
But just look at this point ,since about 8 o’clock when i posted that griffin was there nearly all the posts are related to my comment but dispite this it was removed
even though no one has posted a comment supporting him or his party
Nell! Have you got some sort of pig obsession?FFS.Give it a rest with the pigs.This isn’t Trotterblog.
As you, dear girl live in cuckoo land
“it must be true” i read it in the daily mirror !
Uh??
Make sense or go to bed..please.
PS..try brushing up on your grammar.
Why would anyone post a comment to support grifffen?
Time to go to bed Tat.
Absolute, total and utter support for our troops in Afghanistan.
That’s not all she wants to brush up on!
Well go on then …..what does the beanpea party want to say about the afghanistan war??
go on…we..middle britain ……are listening….what do you want to tell us.???!!!…
Nick will send in a regiment of crackling troops.
That will stymie The Taliban.
He could supply the british army with pigs blood
if they fired that at them out of a paintball gun they would soon surender !
As you say ‘It must be true’
Griffen really does keep two pigs in his backyard which he has named ‘Anne’ and ‘Frank’ to remind him of the little girl who died a painful death in Belsen at Hitler’s hand!!
WOW Tha Daily Mirror.
Toilets Maguire and all that!!!!!
Everythnig he says ‘can be believed’???!!! NOT
You are a complete idiot!!!!!
Night Nell!
Night JimBob!
Night Nell’s cousin,Mr Nell!
Night Jim Bob,Night Jim Bob’s pet pig!
Oink!
wtf!?
You have to read
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/melanie_reid/article6911600.ece
“How charming to pillory disabled Gordon Brown
No one deserves the vindictiveness being directed towards an accident-prone Prime Minister
Forget, for a minute, that he’s the Prime Minister. Set his job aside. Let’s imagine instead that he’s G. Brown, an ordinary, partially sighted bloke a bit down on his luck who makes a mess of filling in one of his benefit forms.”
Go on force yourselves to read it. I have to force myself to read it to the end.
WTF!?
Anyone would think the 11th November 2009 is “Gordon Brown Remembrance Day”.
If this is what the UK public really think and agree with then there is absolutely NO future hope for the UK.
it is not a benefit form and Brown is the PM in charge of a country with nuclear weapons…….dozy bint
Good grief.
Either his disability is no impediment to doing the job (badly), in which case don’t mention it.
Or, his disabilities prevent him from doing the job in which case, get out and let someone else do it.
Can’t have it both ways Brown.
I don’t remember Blunkett being given special dispensation because he’s blind, or Prescott because he’s obese…
They’ve “transmogrified” into other aliases probably – this site is an “astroturfers paradise”.Everybody is somebody else posing as another person taking different views.There’s probably in reality really only 10 people posting on it and one of them thinks they’re not themselves anymore
Well here is an eleventh blogger.
I sold 192 Labour seats in a spread bet at £50 per seat at the next general election.
Any views?
Not true.
“John is John” after all!