October 21st, 2009

How the BBC Lobbies Politicians

Culture Secretary Ben Bradshaw has laid into the BBC in recent months with surprising gusto for an ex-Beeboid.  How does the corporate affairs lobbying team get him back on side must be a vexing issue for them.   Well the aging groover is a pop fan.  Free tickets to see Robbie Williams, minister?  Bradshaw was seen shaking his booty at the Robbie Williams concert last night…


467 Comments

  1. 1
    Sunny Jim says:

    Was it a freebie ticket for the hoon then?

    • 5
      Jethro Q. Walrus-Titty says:

      why does public money have to be spent to keep this arsehole sweet?

      • 56
        Financial misconduct = Conservatives says:

        The Inquisition

        • 90
          McGroom says:

          New Labour = We didn’t do it, it was the Tories

          • Gordon says:

            … and then they ran awa’ …

          • Mervyn King says:

            “We shall all be paying for the impact of this crisis on the public finances for a generation.”

          • Mervyn King says:

            “The belief that appropriate regulation can ensure that speculative activities do not result in failures is a delusion.”

          • Master Baiter says:

            The crisis is global, it started in America.

            The UK has the lowest government debt to gdp ratio of all the leading economies except Canada (source IMF).

            Government spending didn’t cause the crisis.

            The Conservitudes are bought and paid for by the faction that caused the crisis, which is the financial kleptocratic oligopoly.

            You may go.

          • Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

            Who gave the IMF the shitty figures.
            It doesnt include all the PFI debt does it?

            Brown was over-optimistic about future growth, and so was running the economy on a big gamble. One should realise that whether left or right.

          • David Cameron The Millioniare Housing Benefit Cheat - CLOSING IN ON BENEFIT CHEATS LIKE DAVE! says:

            so it is okay for government to waste money but not for the private sector?
            that turkey won’t fly MB.
            doesn’t make sense.

          • Anonymous says:

            I think you will find that the IMF numbers are historic. If you look at future projections the picture changes somewhat. Having said that even I would prefer the UK to France (or Longbridge 75 as it is to be renamed), Spain (where the banks are all still carrying property loans on their books at pre-collapse values) or Italy. Sorry, wrong on the last one – I long for a story involving Broon getting inside the knickers of an 18 year old.

          • Master Baiter says:

            The IMF projections are the same in that UK is projected to have 87% debt to gdp ratio in 2014. Up from 57% in 2009.
            However all the other leading economies except Canada are forecast to have higher Debt Ratios than the UK, some of them much much higher.
            So the UK’s debt ratio is ballooning and as are all the other leading economies

            It’s a global crisis.

            It wasn’t caused by government spending.

            Lesson over

          • tat says:

            I don’t give a damn about other countries.
            only this one.
            you are like a thick student, who uses the thickness of other pupils as an excuse to hide their own uselessness and incompetence.
            if brown had not wasted so much public money is such a short time with so little results then the global crisis would not have affected us as it has.
            the new labour war party has had long enough in power and it has failed.
            everyone can see that apart from you.
            oh well.

          • Anonymous says:

            Oh dear MB. I suggest you go to the IMF World Economic Outlook database, as updated this month and look at projections for government net debt (better than gross) as a % of GDP for developed economies. You will find that the UK is forecast to rise from 68% in 2009 to 98% in 2014. In 2014 Canada is forecast at 68%, Germany at 89% and France at 92%. Please get your numbers right in future.

          • Master Baiter says:

            rat a tat a tat tat, why so tame?
            Run out of steam?
            Nervous?
            Maybe to stick to the usual script that is repeated ad infinitum.
            Don’t let facts stand in the way of ill informed irrelevant opinions about the effect of government spending.
            The point oh mental midget is that the neo-liberal ‘free market’ bull has run its course, it’s over, it is no more, it has expired, its metabolic processes are a matter of interest only to historians!
            You may depart tat

      • 62
        THE 3 A.M. Guido says:

        An ex-beeboid wouldn’t y’know already have any fucking contacts in the Beeb to get those tickets. DUH! But no, that would spoil the “story”.

        This is what counts as News ? Stalking a lightweight like a 3 A.M. girl because he once worked for the Beeb and went to a concert ?

        Quality Reporting!

        • 71

          Look up to the top right of the blog masthead – tittle tattle and gossip is what we do – on a good day. Why are you here? Shouldn’t you be over at the Indy?

          • THE 3 A.M. Guido says:

            You had, and still have, some excellent stories about the piggies porking and casting the political news of the day in a different light.

            That you think all your stories are like this one and that there might not be any discernable difference between this story and the good ones some of your readers might be keener to read speaks to a low opinion of your better stories or a strange attitude that all your stories are equally gossipy.

            Very few of your stories actually fall into celeb spotting and you know it.

          • tat says:

            3am crackhead,
            if you do not like it here you then know where the door is.
            refunds are only payable upon production of a valid receipt.
            goodbye.

          • THE 3 A.M. Crack-obsessed Brown-nosing Cripple says:

            CRITICISM WILL NOT BE TOLERATED!
            I must lick Guido’s arse in a way that would make Oaten cringe to ensure my continued ‘lapses’ are overlooked. Innit ?
            CRITICISM WILL NOT BE TOLERATED!

          • tat says:

            boo hoo, don’t start crying crackhead FFS.
            I told you, no receipt, no refund.
            them’s the rules.

          • THE 3 A.M. Crack-obsessed Brown-nosing Cripple says:

            And I told you dipshit, stop overcompensating by leaping on anything remotely critical because it makes you look like a pathetic little brown-nosing sycophantic worm

            I also praised Guido for his better stories numbnuts

            So why don’t you fuck off and stop embarrasssing yourself
            Kay ?
            Kay

          • tat says:

            “I also praised Guido for his better stories”
            stop rimming Guido you dirty slut.

          • THE 3 A.M. Crack-obsessed Brown-nosing Cripple says:

            It’s the difference between constructive criticism and your embarrassing toecurling unquestioning arse-licking.

            Lesson over thick as pigshit.
            Shame you’re too feeble-minded to learn it.
            Now fuck off and find your daily crack dose.

          • tat says:

            your poor husband!

        • 114
          Clarence says:

          The bit in your post about having “fucking contacts in the Beeb” is the key point here, my dear man. The cosy relationship between NuLab and the BBC has been well documented over a number of years.

          Even after all these years, the BBC still performs the role of a candid friend – or a backseat driver – to the NuLab government. This is hardly surprising as there appears to have been a revolving door connecting the two organisations in recent times.

        • 201
          bandersnatch says:

          Oh for goodness sake! I certainly enjoy a bit of jollity gossip now and then.
          Even the Gloomy Grauniad has its lighter ‘In praise of…’ section, and its splendid Steve Bell cartoon. I think the Beeb/Bradshaw story is a comical one not a ‘shock horror’ Beeboid corruption one… but then I think Robbie Williams is pretty comical too… Bradshaw and Williams deserve each other.

      • 67
        Brown's a Tosser says:

        Whenever I see Bradshaw I see that hair Gel “Something About Mary” moment is it subliminal perhaps but I fear this government is sending me to the funny farm.

        • 75
          Ivor Blackskateboard says:

          Emily maitlitz needs some of that. What with her hair flopping over her eye and all.

        • 237
          barefootcontessa says:

          Ben bradshaw’s hair is his pride and joy. Surely you know ……he’s worth it!

          He fancies he’s one of the ‘demi monde’, a louche lad with large private income, apartments in Blenheim Palace, and a cute teddy bear called Rupert to cuddle when he goes to bed at night.

      • 142
        Greychatter says:

        It takes the public’s mind off more important issues like Gordon’s 175 Billion Debt and the Lisbon Treaty where we should all have had our say.

        http://petice.eu/?lang=EN#

        sign the petition against a United States of Europe with Tony Blair as President.

        And the continued Gravy Train of Politics.

        http://petice.eu/?lang=EN#

    • 8
      Mondeoman says:

      All BBC concerts or shows are free I think, so we paid for it and in the case of Bradshaw, no doubt paid for his transport there and back too! You couldn’t make it up. While Rome burns, debt increases they are still spending, dreaming up new schemes that will fail, new ways to waste money, and will our great leader answer any questions today at PMQ’s, let’s just ponder on this……NO.

      • 12
        Down with Brown! says:

        Are much did the BBC Robbie Williams gig cost us? It’s time for Pravda to stop wasting our money.

        • 13
          Anonymous says:

          One would hope williams paid the BBC for all the free publicity (The BBC even think this concert is News) But I somehow doubt it.

        • 16
          Mondeoman says:

          Now that side of the balance sheet for this little Gig would not be free, I am sure RW’s come back would be costly. I love the way the BBC has morals when it comes to advertising, Rum and Cola, sticky tape, vacuum, etc. but appear on the beeb to sell you new book, film, record or ‘come back bid’, no worries.

        • 25
          THE ISLAND FORMALLY KNOWN AS BRITAIN says:

          £50 I Believe ! He Cancelled His Gig Down At The Rose And Crown For The Chance To Get Back On Telly !

        • 45
          Bendover says:

          How much has this BBC ‘charity’ “Round the World in 80 days” cost – and what was the carbon footprint?

          Words fail me !!

          • Curious of Shaftsbury says:

            So just what is a carbon footprint?

          • Ivor Blackskateboard says:

            A carbon footprint is like a tv licence. That’s all you need to know

          • RavingMad says:

            a carbon footprint is what is left on your shoes after you’ve just cleaned out the wood burning fire.

          • barefootcontessa says:

            I think Robbie Williams is reeeeeeeally sinister.

          • rebel says:

            You’ll find out when the bill comes thundering through your letterbox with all the others. You may be entitled to a 5% discount if you pay by direct debit though, so it’s not all bad news.

        • 250
          Hugh Janus says:

          Second prize was presumably two tickets….

    • 18
      Truth or dare says:

      What some politicians think of the BBC.

    • 20
      Robbie duz drugz says:

      I kid you not Turnbull and his bit of fluff this morning said Williams’ spaced out appearance on Xfactor was because he had drunk too much coffee.

    • 28

      Free tickets to see Robbie Williams – it sounds more like a punishment than a reward.

    • 203
      Down with Brown! says:

      Message for the BBC:

      Angus Reid/pb.com
      Con 40% Lab 23% LD 20%
      Con 380 Lab 184 LD 55 Nat 10 Min 3
      Con maj 110

      ICM/Guardian
      Con 44% Lab 27% LD 18%
      Con 395 Lab 192 LD 33 Nat 9 Min 3
      Con maj 140

      IPSOS-MORI
      Con 43% Lab 26% LD 19%
      Con 390 Lab 189 LD 41 Nat 9 Min 3
      Con maj 130

      • 375
        Lin Rees says:

        Selective reporting ,what about the ones earlier which suggest a hung parliament? Have you ignored those,not really intelligent and fair to do that. Class will show its form in the end and I don’t mean social class,wait and see.

    • 349
      Oily Stick says:

      It’s culture, of course the shit stabber had to be there.

  2. 2
    Gary Baldy says:

    Angels

    • 59
      Jethro says:

      That takes the biscuit.

      • 72
        last of the Bourbons says:

        It’s our raisin d’etre

      • 86
        Comment says:

        don’t get in a flap jack!

        • 102
          Ivor Blackskateboard says:

          Lol

        • 106
          Sent by my Bleuberry wireless device says:

          Crumby

        • 258
          barefootcontessa says:

          Squashed flies?

          • From last weeks Gordon is Crackers competition.
            Capitalists@work

            George Osborne -RITZ crackers
            Vince cable – Fox’s Assortments – pick the ones you like , something for everyone
            Baroness Scotland – She just takes the biscuit.
            Blair – Jammy Dodger
            John Bercow has to love shortcake..
            David Cameron – Hobnobs (sounds posh but really quite substantial)
            Nick Clegg – Rich Tea (not much substance, falls apart under pressure)
            Alan Johnson – Digestive (working class favourite)
            Alex Salmond – oat cakes (slow burn calories, no sweetness at all)
            Alistair Darling – Short{of}bread
            George Osborne – Millionaire’s shortcakes from Fox’s super indulgent range.
            Gordon Brown – McVitie’s Boasters.
            Tony Blair – mini shredders
            Boris Johnson – more of a crumpet man really.
            Vince cable – Tesco value caramel wafers. Looks like the real deal but is actually quite disappointing.

          • Australian says:

            … and no mention of Marcus Oatcake himself?

          • barefootcontessa says:

            Kit-Kat Club, dark orange variety of course.

  3. 3
    A Pensioner says:

    Meanwhile the the PSBR is T1.2 And counting.

  4. 4
    Anonymous says:

    Well they probably got the tickets for free in the first place so bribing ministers with free stuff so they are nice to them sounds good to me

  5. 6
    ian e says:

    Bradshaw is clearly trying to curry favour with the labour rank and file – I wouldn’t rule him out of the race for NuLeader. Though, if they have to stoop that low, labour’s end is extremely nigh!

    He is just emulating the Bliar/Campbell attack on the BBC of all those years ago – still just as farcical as the BBC is still stuck in its massively pro-Labour stance (and it better move along quickly if it doesn’t want to rile the incoming govrnmrnt too much!)

    • 51
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      Bradshaw BumFuck for leader will never happen. Moreover he will have a hard battle at next GE and one of those who thankfully will hit the scrapheap and well deserved it would be.

      • 262
        barefootcontessa says:

        He’d have more money to spend on his hair.

      • 462
        cider drinker says:

        Us Exeter geezers will sort him out at the GE , the slippery bloody stabber.Funny he should attack the Beeb , aint his other half a Beeb cameraman ?

        • 464
          cider drinker says:

          I do actually remember knocking him over once when i came out of my local off-licence with 48 cans of Fosters in my arms.Shame i wasnt driving my car at the time

  6. 7
    next slide please, d-day says:

    If they can afford to butter up ministers with free tickets they can cut the licence fee for pensioners.

  7. 9
    Moir says:

    Not hard to find the BBC connection in the household.

  8. 10
    James1st says:

    He used to be my M.P. – he really is a smug ‘glad to be him’ creep – Oh and he cannot be trusted!

    • 65
      Revolution now ............ says:

      I attended an HoC Committee meeting on Bovine Tuberculosis when Both Bradshaw and Prof Bourne were ‘examined’

      To describe Bradshaw as a greasy, slimey, repellant slug of a person is an understatement – he truly was nauseating – really awful.

      Having said that – the Committee members were equally incompetent

      I think we really need a sensible Dictator next time around and if your money comes from the taxpayer – you bloody well do what your told – inc Royal Mail, BBC, Banks etc etc

      • 97
        Jonny B ..... says:

        He also tells lies

      • 145
        Moley says:

        The biggest problems facing this country are what?

        Economic meltdown, social breakdown and the inexorable rise of the fascists.

        The Conservative solution to these problems?

        The literal and metaphorical emasculation of Parliament by all women shortlists on the part of Cameron.

        To come through the times we are now experiencing requires a Parliament of the highest standards and integrity. Compromising our future by discriminating against male candidates is an act of crass stupidity which insults the intelligence of the electorate.

        I will not vote for a party which is so stupid and out of touch.

        • 274
          barefootcontessa says:

          Insults the intelligence of women. Is that what you mean? Women can do it without discrimination in their favour, if they really want to.

          • Hugh Bristic says:

            Selection on merit, not to fulfill some HQ inspired quota.
            Surely there is an under-representation of red haired people in Westminster?, also dog owning cricket lovers are few and far between.

          • Bottle-fed Triplet says:

            Isn’t it amazing, the ONLY female prime minister we have ever had was

            a) Right of Centre
            b) Not madly keen on feminists
            c) Elected as a result of campaigning and not from an all women shortlist.

            There must be a link there somewhere

          • Cyco Billy says:

            So how many women on these shortlists do you think will denounce the all women shortlists? Weakness of will?

        • 348
          snaf2 says:

          Cameron is the brand logo, not much more. The real policy decisions are made up by more substantial figures off to one side of the thone; including the un-photogenic and hence unelectable (in this dumb-topia) slap-head Hague. Nobody believes that Vaclav Claus will hold out, and Hague knows this very well. But don’t expect to hear the Conservatives’ policy on this before the election, there’s too much at stake to give Brussels a fore-warning.

        • 425
          RobC says:

          Not a very bright tirade when you consider that the female voter is a very important cog in the electoral wheel.Cameron has to appeal to large sections of women voters or we may very well get the gormless clown back in to fxxx the country up completely.

          • Moley says:

            Any man in this country who gives his vote to a party which has openly decared that it is going to discriminate against men deserves everything they get.

            I thought we wanted rid of Harriet and were on the way to achieving it, and lo and behold, Cameron has put on her clothes and is poncing about the political arena extolling the virtues of positive discrimination in favour of women.

            Enough.

          • Chump says:

            I think that Cameron’s use of all-female shortlists is intended to send a very different signal to Labour’s quotas.

            He appeals to a rather nostalgic sort of ‘fairness’ (used to market the Britannia building society not so long ago).

            Labour insists upon defining and enforcing a whole series of ‘entitlements’ (which come across poorly to broad swathes of the population).

            A very British battle-line.

  9. 11
    Down with Brown! says:

    Still no mention on Pravda last night of the three polls that put the Tories 17% ahead, but the one last week that put Labour 10% was labelled on Newsnight a “Labour fight-back”.

  10. 15
    Twinscrew says:

    Free tickets….that should do the trick.

  11. 17
    Anonymous says:

    Who on eath is Robbie Williams???? What does he do that is so marvelous?

    • 74
      Jethro says:

      Not sure: I think he was married to Judi Dench…

    • 144
      Queequeg says:

      He’s the Archbishop of Canterbury — anyone knows that, FFS!

    • 196
      Why Has Williams Been So Long In LA??? says:

      RW’s comeback is shite. It must be a great disappointment to only reach number 2 after all the hype.

      He’s washed up, finished. An ageing boyband member with very little talent of any description.

      But why hide away in LA for so long? The only reason for going there is to make movies. Is that what he’s been doing? God knows he needs a big idea to relaunch his career.

      He’s in greater need of a decent relaunch than Brown- and that’s saying something.

    • 465
      Anonymous says:

      I believe he is George Osbornes supplier.

  12. 19
    Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

    Was he shaking his booty or his botty?

  13. 22
    Sent by my Bleuberry wireless device says:

    Neurotic man with saucer eyes seen at BBC gig

  14. 23
    Hamish Macbeth says:

    With stories like this…
    on can appreciate why there is a growing ban of licence fee non payers.

  15. 24
    nhs drone says:

    “Bradshaw was seen shaking his booty at the Robbie Williams concert last night…”

    Some of us haven’t had our fucking breakfast yet you know.

  16. 26
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Time for privatising the Beeb.

    However, the Brook’s cartoon in The Times reminded me of the Douglas Bader Fokker joke.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/cartoon/

  17. 27
    Terrible But True says:

    Yet another example of ‘unique’ funding at work… er… play.

  18. 29
    corky says:

    Robbie Williams,wasn,t he that guy who failed to take the USA by storm.
    Sounds about right for Benny boy and the Pravda muppets.
    Reports this morning that McMental is toying around with giving mp,s a rise to quell the backbench rebellion,supposedly off the back of ministers pay.
    Yes and a pig just flew over my house if you believe that one.

  19. 34
    streamfisher says:

    Culture Secretary goes to see Robbie Williams, ha,ha,Haaaa!

    • 53
      Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

      Well I hope Robbie sings my favourite: ‘Tripping’. First line is the Mahatma Ghandi quote; “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win”

  20. 44
    Odds Bodkins says:

    Some interesting articles on the BBC’s coke-fuelled celebs:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6883052.ece

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6389212/Off-the-wall-TV-and-radio-stars-may-be-high-on-cocaine-says-former-BBC-producer.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1221850/Former-BBC-producer-reveals-TV-executives-PRAISED-cocaine-use.html

    These are just high-profile tips of a big and squalid iceberg of course… They are all at it, lock, stock and barrel, executives as well.

    In the same way that those who use this drug often turn into raging assholes, the real reason why the BBC wastes so much money and makes so many crap decisions are probably cocaine-influenced.

    • 69
      Sent by my Bleuberry wireless device says:

      Frank Bough!!! Forgotten about that one.

    • 77
      ColaStoker says:

      Who was that popular BBC Sports Commentator – nice guy but sniffed a lot?

    • 190
      Moley says:

      What do you think was the cause of Ross’s stupid and offensive behaviour?

      High salaries and cocaine use go hand in hand.

      In return for public money the BBC needs to institute compulsory drug testing and zero tolerance of drug abuse. The same applies to the Banks.

      The taxpayers are subsidising cocaine use, crime, and terrorism.
      In return we get a financial industry which has thrown our future away and a broadcaster which has not produced anything of value in years.

    • 227

      Yes.

      Durrr obviously it’s coke. Given a vast budget and t’power to high and fire who you choose, can there be *any* other explanation for the incredible shitness of BBC programming? Have you seen Clever vs Stupid?

      The only other possibility I can think of is too many dopey timid women unwilling to take creative risks. Or too much bumming.

  21. 49
    It's Wednesday and time for PMQ's! says:

    Wednesday and another PMQ session at midday.

    Last week Brown was clearly trying to speak slowly and appear relaxed at PMQ’s,with only the last planted question from Salter bringing out the old Stalin (I shall shoot you all) mentality.

    Today I predict he will revert back to Stalin very quickly and lose his marbles by 12.15pm.

    Watch closely as Harman keeps everything crossed in the hope Brown doesn’t come out with any dreadful (“I saved the world”) announcements.

    And watch to see just how switched off the moronic front bench appear – after all they only have the task of running (ruining in their case) the country.

    And just think, we have circa 20 of these sessions before he gets well and truly kicked to smithereens in the election that he has tried so hard to avoid.

  22. 51
    Sukyspook says:

    This pretty much sums it up:

    WARNING – IF YOU DON’T LIKE SWEARING – DON’T WATCH!

    • 95
      rhoot says:

      He’s obviously hiding out in his shed.

    • 97
      streamfisher says:

      Not a happy bunny, “In your face Fuck You!”, yeah tell me about it.

      • 131
        Dixie Dean says:

        As bad a case of tourettes I’ve seen in a while. He’s gotta point and is actually quite restrained. Sacks of Gold man!!

    • 160
      Justice Fingers says:

      I could only watch to half way. Does his head explode?

    • 186
      Doc Trough says:

      I wonder whether this gentleman has a concealed firearms permit? Reminds me of Hunter Thompson.

    • 200
      Meanwhile,down in the shed pleae meet Brown's psychoanalyst.... says:

      I recognise this guy – he was Brown’s former shrink and tried to keep him sane during the Obama Beach day’s of the past summer months.

      However,he was sacked as his approach was seen as being too mild for Brown.

      Could we set up this guy to be around when Brown turns up to open another of Ball’s local schools? Would be better than Ali v Frazier!

      Did you notice the sides of his head where it has previously exploded and they have done a really good job of cramming his brain back in without showing too many stitch marks.

  23. 54
    How the BBC Lobbies Politicians says:

    It calls them up and tells them to meet either them or one of their minions at News Corp HQ or even at number 10

    No, wait… that ‘s Murdoch

  24. 73
    Sir William Waad says:

    Wenn ich Kulturminister höre … entsichere ich meinen Browning.

  25. 80
    The Public Wants the BBC Privatised!!! In your fucking dreams says:

    But only in Guido and the far-right nutters heads

    Cameron despite being the Heir to Balir at least knows reality and wouldn’t dare get into popularity contest between him (an MP that most popular of people next to the Bankers) and the BBC.

    He has no intention of making himself a liar to the British publicgoing back on what he has said and doing Murdochs bidding and privatising part/privatising whatever.

    Which in case you didn’t already realise, is the reason Murdoch via The Sun said they still weren’t fully “convinced” by Cameron when they switched sides and stopped supporting Labour.

    Cameron already told Murdoch he wouldn’t recast the entire Network TV regulations and dismantle the BBC according to Murdoch’s “plan”.
    So Murdoch still isn’t a happy bunny with Cameron.

    Tough titty Mr Murdoch as Cameron can now dodge you by claiming (rightly) that after Lisbon much of the Big TV Regulation Decisions won’t be his to make and you will have to fight for your Sport and Media holdings in the European Courts.

    • 96
      genghiz the kahn says:

      Why do we need to have a state run broadcaster?

      The BBC instinctively plays up the role of the state, and plays down the cost of big interventionist government.

      • 100
        Bankers Billion Bonuses for all! (Bankers) says:

        That interventionist big government and it’s medlling ‘light touch’ regulation in the City. That’s what made the Bankers fuck the Economy up the arse while laughing at their Bonuses. Big Government! Seemples!

        • 118
          Master Baiter says:

          It started in America, it actually did.
          The governement didn’t make the bankers do anything.
          The political consensus was that the market self corrected, that the market was efficient.
          It isn’t, the neo-liberal revolution is over, broken, just like communism in the run up to 1989.
          The US banks are in state control.
          The US car companies are in state control.

          • Media Barons for Broadcasting fairness and irony says:

            The Government was charged with REGULATING the Banks and the Credit Ratings Agencies. In the Square Mile and in Wall Street. It manifestly FAILED.

            That’s a big fat Government mistake of epic proportions and few were more lax than Brown because he was stupid enough to believe delivering almost everything the City wanted would protect him from any possible downturn or iminent catastrophe.

            Look up what happened in AIG and where the London offices were pivotal in it’s downfall and promotion of C.D.S.s

            This was an Atlantic market disaster and Northern Rock isn’t an american Bank. Brown gets half the blame for being utterly clueless and hopeless.

          • resurgemus says:

            Ford is an independent company.

            Chrysler is owned by FIAT

            No Uk automotive companies are in state ownership because the government pushed Rover and LDV into insolvency, though not until elections were out of the way.

            Watch Mandelson screw up Vauxhall.

          • Sent by my Bleuberry wireless device says:

            Who is Vauxhall?

          • rhoot says:

            Angus Reid/pb.com
            Con 40% Lab 23% LD 20%
            Con 380 Lab 184 LD 55 Nat 10 Min 3
            Con maj 110

            ICM/Guardian
            Con 44% Lab 27% LD 18%
            Con 395 Lab 192 LD 33 Nat 9 Min 3
            Con maj 140

            IPSOS-MORI
            Con 43% Lab 26% LD 19%
            Con 390 Lab 189 LD 41 Nat 9 Min 3
            Con maj 130

          • Anonymous says:

            Nothing to do with socialist tw*ts pressuring the banks to lend to the great unwashed who could never repay?

            Nothing to do with the socialist tw*ts trying to pretend that the poor were better off by getting them to borrow money?

            Hmm, a very one sided view MB!

          • Master Baiter says:

            GM is state controlled.
            Ford is state supported.
            Chrysler is state supported.

            The US banks are state controlled.

            None of these came about as a result of Gordon Brown. In fact they came about under a right wing tax shredding Bush Presidency and Republican legislature.

            The market has failed.
            ‘Free market’ neo-liberalism is unmasked as a fraud.
            The Conservitudes are bought and paid for by the faction that created the cirsis, the financial kleptocratic oligopoly.

          • resurgemus says:

            really Baiter you need to keep up with events dear boy

            Chrysler was bought by FIAT back in June.

            Ford have stayed a listed company and refused Govt help as they don’t want the interference.

            I’m sure the folks at Goldman Sachs will be surprised to discover they’re civil servants.

            Since your beef seems to be on companies being supported by the state
            and we could had Renault, Peugeot, FIAT, Opel ….
            perhaps you would like to expalin why every other government is supporting major industries through tough times except the UK ?

            Ironically, banking which you whine about most, is the only sector getting support , and they’re promptly paying it all out in big bonuses. One can only assume this is with the agreement of Brown and Mandelson. Looks very Neo Liberal to me.

          • Putin says:

            At least they have US car companies whereas our scheme involves subsidising foreign companies through the scrappage scheme.

            A thought – could we extend the scrappage scheme to include politicians? Obviously two grand is way over the top but 10 to 20p would be a fair exchange I think.

            I don’t want anything back other than a signed agreement to fuck off into the sunset.

          • Master Baiter says:

            How stupid, Fiat is a fig leaf, what did they get paid to take Chrysler? I
            t’s state supported, it’s bust, the tax payer is stumping up.
            It can’t pay its own way. Ford is bust too.
            Which leaves just the erstwhile largest corporation in the the world GM or General Motors which is state controlled clearly unequivocally.

            Free market my aunt…..

          • resurgemus says:

            your knowledge of US car companies and Chapter 11 is minimal

            Chrysler in private sector, restructured and trading.
            Ford in private sector and issued a strong forward looking report .
            GM going through Chapter 11 and will emerge later and be privatised.

            UK banks – assited by Uk government. No controls put in place and big bonuses all round despite what govt. said.

      • 108
        rhoot says:

        If the BBC didn’t exist, the suggestion to create a state run broadcasting corps would quite rightly be looked upon as something deeply suspect and sinister.

      • 109
        Media Barons for Broadcasting fairness and irony says:

        Why do we need to have a Tax dodging Murdoch ?
        Because the public still buys and likes some Sky TV packages.

        And the public still likes the BBC and pays the licence fee.
        Until that changes the chances of a privatised BBC are Zero.

        • 121
          genghiz the kahn says:

          Is that the best you can do to justify a state run broadcaster?

          • Media Barons for Broadcasting fairness and irony says:

            I don’t need to justify it any more than I need to justify Murdochs Tax dodging Media Empire. They just are and until there is sufficient demand otherwise they will just be.

            And if the public were really as foaming at the mouth angry at the BBC as the nutters then it would already be gone.

            Public opinion matters and Cameron is, if nothing else, pretty canny with public opinion. Which is why Cameron won’t ever do more than tinker at the BBC. Even Maggie wasn’t dumb enough to try and privatise it.

            Cameron will also be a bit busy trying to put a shattered economy back together and paying back the debt without putting up our Taxes too much. So any BBC P.R. reshape of the Trust and slight tinkering with Ofcom (his most likely reforms) will hardly be his first actions anyway.

          • Evan More Anonymous says:

            You seem to be suffering from wishful thinking. The BBC will fetch a very good price, and tories have already spoken about this.

          • Media Baron's for Broadcasting Fairness and Irony says:

            Cameron has spoken about it and ruled out privatisation completely.

            It’s the nutters who are delusional and suffering from wishful thinking.

      • 111
        Master Baiter says:

        Murdoch is past it.
        tic toc, tic toc

        • 170
          maggie maggie maggie says:

          Angus Reid/pb.com
          Con 40% Lab 23% LD 20%
          Con 380 Lab 184 LD 55 Nat 10 Min 3
          Con maj 110

          ICM/Guardian
          Con 44% Lab 27% LD 18%
          Con 395 Lab 192 LD 33 Nat 9 Min 3
          Con maj 140

          IPSOS-MORI
          Con 43% Lab 26% LD 19%
          Con 390 Lab 189 LD 41 Nat 9 Min 3
          Con maj 130

      • 129
        Vox Populi says:

        Totally agree

    • 164
      Anonymous says:

      In industry, when you make a loss you send out the accountants to find all the “hidden” losses, and make it one huge loss, so that you get back to profit as soon as possible.

      Labour was making a monumental loss during the conference season, and sure enough they went out, and made the loss the biggest they could.

      Now as the election approaches you will see that defectors will start realigning themselves, for their own good, and the sheeple will get positive Labour messages daily. Not “convinced” means we will defect back just at the last minute, maybe.

      The groundswell is being set up. The conservatives have lost the ability to see the tsunami coming, since few have had any industrial practical political training.

      Labour have even started the double target tactic, again. Vote for us and you will get X and in time you will get Y. The illness issue is the inevitable change decision that the voters who prefer the alternate will cling to, and the Brown lovers will disbelieve. But the conservatives just go for the traditional single stand up act, with support artists.

      • 216
        Charles Softwidges Prozac supply says:

        It’s called off balance sheet accounting and apart from the Banks the biggest culprit of all is.. BROWN. PFIs and PPSs are costing hundreds of Billions and going to cost many more.

        There is no strategy as Brown has been lurching from disaster to disaster for months hoping appearing on the world stage would help him in the polls.

        It clearly hasn’t and the polls are pure electoral disaster.

        That you would actually try and pretend that the Labour Conference was deliberately shit speaks to a level of derangement that can easily be classed as a mental illness.

        Fear of the Tories only works if you aren’t desperately copying every policy they have and that is Mandelson’s one and only strategy. Try to outflank the Tories in the forlorn hope the middle England marginals will prefer Brown to Cameron.

        Anyone with even the most rudimentary political knowledge knows that this hasn’t worked, won’t work and Brown is doomed.

        Keep dreaming softwidge as you are a masterclass in self delusion and clutching at straws.

        • 306
          Anonymous says:

          I see you have trouble reading. I’m sorry.

          I said “Labour was making a monumental loss during the conference season” I did not say it was deliberate. Just like companies do not make deliberate losses.

          However, I was talking about the side shows that have dumped their poll ratings: like the Sun. Once dumped their only trend is to get better!

          Taxes used to be the main voting argument. Now we have handouts. The electorate knows that these handouts will go away if Labour fails. There is no tradition of maintaining handouts. Therefore the sheeple WILL vote labour as they only see the short term. There is no long term, because the EU stands in the way of any long term plans as a wall of uncertainty destroying all decisions.

          My proof is that even after the Iraq war the country still voted them back in, and there has been no demonstrations against them in particular. However, G20, energy companies, climate conferences, etc. still get a good turnout.

          The delusion is within your mind.

          (As for your other assumptions, you are wildly out.)

        • 372
          Charles Softwidges Prozac supply says:

          I see you have trouble reading and understanding what YOU actually wrote.

          You said “Labour was making a monumental loss during the conference season, and sure enough they went out, and made the loss the biggest they could.” You did say it was deliberate.

          Taxes are stil la massive voting argument but since all Parties will have to put up Taxes after the next election they are dodging the issue, for the MOMENT only.

          In the short term we are in a crippling recession with people in those crucial marginals losing their jobs daily.
          Instant Electoral Death.
          That isn’t going to stop tomorrow or next month or next may.
          It’s going to keep rolling on till the end of next year IF we are lucky and the recession doesn’t double dip.

          If unemployment reached 20% it still wouldn’t be 20% of votes going to Labour as the Labour heartlands deserted NuLiebore long, long ago. And it still leaves that 80% who aren’t obsessed with ‘handouts’ as you put it.

          You ‘proof’ is based on the misconception that the Iraq War is the only issue anyone votes on or that there was a credible alternative at the time. There wasn’t.

          “and there has been no demonstrations against them in particular. However, G20, energy companies, climate conferences, etc. still get a good turnout.”

          Iraq had the biggest peacetime demonstration ever seen.
          You have demonstrations on issues and don’t tend to get demonstrations against the big Political Party’s because you get ELECTIONS and OPINION POLLS to register displeasure.

          We recently had a European Election.
          Labour support dropped like a stone to unheard of levels.
          Spin all you like even a child can tell those numbers mean they will lose.

          Elections are almost always won or lost on the state of the Economy and unless you have indeed had your head up your arse for many, many months then you’d know it’s up shit creek.

          Anyone who thinks there is a glimmer of coherent Labour strategy or is so deranged as to think he has “the ability to see the tsunami coming” needs urgent medical attention.

          The tsunami is going to be that which sweeps some of Labours Ministers from Power in a hilarious reverse rerun of 97 as Brown’s promised ‘turnaround’ of the polls proves to be yet another delusion that he promised months ago but just can’t deliver.

          BTW anyone who describes the British electorate as wooly farm-animals is a complete cock and/or a tin-foil hat wearing lunatic.
          Just so you know.

          • Anonymous says:

            So “for many, many months then you’d know it’s up shit creek.”

            I have known it is up shit creek for years. 2004 to be exact. I was gob smacked when they got back in last time. The reality is that for most the economy is not the issue. The next cash in hand job, or the next hand out is as far as they can see.

            If the greater population was knowlegable about economics why is the personal debt at record levels. They all believed the “new economy” story and followed the one in front over the fence to borrowing hell.

            Europe elections were insignificant, they less useful than a poll. That organization is not even democratic. No vote actually makes a difference to anything.

            The only thing that counts for labour is election day.

            As for Iraq demonstrations, that was years ago. What has happened in recent times since the realization that the economy is toast? Nothing.

            They might be crap at running a country, but there stage act does have the ability to hold the audience in silence.

          • Anonymous says:

            missing “are” and a wrong “their” Sorry.

  26. 110
    STRICTLY DAILY POLITICS - says:

    Today from 1130:
    - Tony Blair as EU president?
    - Labour MP Caroline Flint
    - Tory MP Nick Herbert
    - PMQs and Guess the Year
    - Strictly’s Camilla Dallerup on dog micro-chipping

    IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FLINTSTONES – THE GOBBY FLINT SHOW

    ANDREW HAS HER ON JUST TO ANNOY ME !!

  27. 112
    Smarmy git says:

    Right at the end of Brown’s dire speech to the Labour Conference, as lukewarm apathy filled the room, one man, a certain Mr Bradshaw, jumped up to hail his leader’s words. The BBC camera caught this display of spontaneous loyalty.

    I’d love someone to post it here. It sums the odious slug up perfectly.

    • 119
      Media Barons for Broadcasting fairness and irony says:

      That cun t that was on Newsnight last night after being proved a complete idiot for massively overstating the forced prostitution based in a Daily Mirror report should be pilloried more.

      He was as big a waste of space NuLabour mong as I have ever seen and tried to bully both Paxo and the Guest with hilariously pathetic results. Utterly revolting little tosspot.

      • 122
        Hold hard says:

        No – that wasn’t Bradshaw – it was that obnoxious twat that was European Minister – bloody awful geezer – wot’sisname – I am glad I’ve forgotten it!

      • 141
        Media Barons for Broadcasting fairness and irony says:

        Yeah, didn’t think it was Bradshaw but couldn’t remember his name.

        McPain.
        He really is a repulsive little reptile who should be strung up by his balls.

      • 337
        barefootcontessa says:

        Dennis McShane, a puffed up trougher of the worst variety. He was attacked by a woman, and he didn’t like it! She represented ‘ladies of the night’, and was brilliant, bested Paxman and all.

        • 380
          Media Barons for Broadcasting fairness and irony says:

          Pure professional jealousy from McPain then as he is merely an amateur prostitute of the state.

          Those ladies have to work for a living and can’t claim expenses.

    • 120
      Odious Git says:

      My dear Smarmy Git

      “It sums the odious slug up perfectly”

      Don’t you mean –

      “It sums up the odious slug perfectly”

      I thank you!

    • 139
      streamfisher says:

      Try this dynamic meeting in Cornwall, couldn’t keep my eyes off the optics, definitely stoats arse territory (that’s a pint glass and measure from every bottle along the wall).

  28. 128
    Bill Quango MP says:

    Good to see Impy still doing the slogan thing.

    Strength Through Joy! etc

    Communists and fascists love their slogans. Hides the failures.
    Nothing like a long list of self proclaimed achievements to mask a longer list of self evident failures. Anyway , carry on, but maybe a little variety.
    Even clunker Brown eventually changes his tune. Usually when reality makes the slogan impossible to continue with, but still..

    How about…

    The Imposition
    Financial Services Authority = Confusion

    The Indigestion
    Final solution = consumption

    The Incipid
    Gross misconduct = Jacqui Smith

    Just to liven it up a bit.

    • 132
      Gordon Brown says:

      Message to the our Futures Generations

      ARBEIT MACHT FREI

      • 153
        But I,me, Gordon, personally,saved the World and I can do it again - honestly I can I tell you says:

        47 hours 18 hours 34 minute left for me to “Save the World” ! Why has Peter taken away my Nokia ???

        • 162
          Master Baiter says:

          In the words of Mervyn King last night:
          “The belief that appropriate regulation can ensure that speculative activities do not result in failures is a delusion.”
          That’s the Conservitudes for you, delusional.
          They say that regulation should have been with the Bank of England and not the FSA. The Bank of England says it’s delusional to think that appropriate regulation can ensure that speculative activities do not result in failures.

          Check mate.

          • Financial misconduct = Conservatives says:

            The Inquisition.

          • we love you dave says:

            Angus Reid/pb.com
            Con 40% Lab 23% LD 20%
            Con 380 Lab 184 LD 55 Nat 10 Min 3
            Con maj 110

            ICM/Guardian
            Con 44% Lab 27% LD 18%
            Con 395 Lab 192 LD 33 Nat 9 Min 3
            Con maj 140

            IPSOS-MORI
            Con 43% Lab 26% LD 19%
            Con 390 Lab 189 LD 41 Nat 9 Min 3
            Con maj 130

          • Concentrate please MB says:

            I’ve checked mate and I really do believe that you are not at all familiar with all the ‘types’ of ‘banking’ – they ain’t all the same – it goes from Co-Op type finance to having half-a-crown (that’s Gordon betting with the Nations money on Public Services for electoral gain) on the fifth favourite in the 3:30 at Ascot

          • Polled in the Stalls says:

            Silence in the stalls, and up in the circle.

            Chubby cheeks isn’t going to swing it.

          • Mervyn King says:

            The belief that appropriate regulation can ensure that speculative activities do not result in failures is a delusion.

            Yes, the Conservatives are delusional.

          • Charles Softwidges Prozac supply says:

            Bank of England, the FSA, the Tripartite system.

            I’ve got news for you MB. IT FAILED.

            So what the fuck do you expect King to say ?
            If I and Brown had been doing our job this shitstorm wouldn’t have happened and took out the whole Economy plunging us into recession ? Don’t think so somehow.

            Delusional

      • 173
        Homer Simpson says:

        The Leader is good,
        The Leader is great.
        I surrender my will,
        As of this date.

  29. 137
    Engineer says:

    While we’re on the subject of Beeboids (paid by the public via. the License Fee), here’s a bit on Jenny Abramsky’s £4 million pension package. And more.

    Troughers don’t only reside in Parliament….

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3560523/Jenny-Abramsky-are-you-retiring-comfortably.html

    • 159
      Alan Yentknob says:

      anti-setimitic bastard.

    • 206
      Sir William Waad says:

      To be fair, Radio 3 is still very good, though not quite as good as some US stations playing proper music. Also, to be fair, this woman must have approved the appointment of Chris Moyles, so that Stupid could have a voice.

    • 456
      Anonymous says:

      Troughing Yentob, Troughing Abramsky, Troughing Thompson (pp Mrs Thompson). I am seeing a rather embarrassing pattern here at the BBC. What is it with these people that they just can’t keep their heads down.

  30. 146
    chomping at the bit says:

    O/T

    Frank Field has now replied to his critics

    “How fair is my comparison of Sir Thomas Legg’s imposition of a retrospective 5 year claw back on MPs’ housing claims with a similar retrospective decision to change the speed limit?

    I have likened Sir Thomas Legg’s application of the rule on expenses to the scenario of a motorist who drives at 25 miles per hour in a 30 mph limit zone then five years later, once the speed limit has been changed to 20 mph, discovers he has been fined for speeding following a decision to back-date the claim.

    Emails have pointed out that I’m wrong to use this analogy. The speed limit should not have been 30 mph in the first place. It should have been 20 mph all along. Yes, that is presumably why the Highways Agency has taken the decision to reduce the speed limit. But should the change be introduced retrospectively and fines imposed?

    I have never made an ACA claim which I thought was unfair to the taxpayer. I would be ashamed if I had. Indeed only by assuming that I was intellectually inadequate could one take the view that I was using my housekeeping bills as a means of boosting my personal income. The total of all of my claims over the past five years have ranged from 50 per cent of eligible sums to 30 per cent last year.

    The main point that I was attempting to make in my column for the Liverpool Echo was that Sir Thomas has arbitrarily imposed a cap on only cleaning and gardening expenses. At no stage has he explained this, nor why he has restricted his cap to only gardening or cleaning costs.

    If his precedent had been followed consistently Sir Thomas would have applied his retrospective rules to all the main headings allowed in my claims. He has not done so.

    Robert Verkaik in today’s Independent goes further. He argues that Sir Thomas Legg’s decision is not akin to retrospective changes to the criminal law, but to the changing of tax loopholes or windfall charges on corporations who have benefited from unintended legislative consequences.

    The charges arising from the closing of tax loopholes, however, are never retrospectively imposed.

    But if Robert Verkaik’s argument is to hold, and there is much attraction to it, shouldn’t the new retrospective rules be applied consistently across all main headings of expenditure?”

    Yes Frank they should and all troughers should go to prison.

    Time is ripe for a root and branch reform of both houses.

  31. 161
    Bert the Cert says:

    is robbie a gay icon?

    • 454
      Why Has Williams Been So Long In LA??? says:

      Yes.

      But he’s not gay at all- honest! That’s why he’s so in love with his beard, sorry- girlfriend, Adya Field.

      Can’t alienate the gays because the pink pound has such huge purchasing power. So it’s good business sense to keep his sexuality ambiguous.

      Perhaps he should go into musical theatre. That would be a good relaunch for him. Can’t be any worse than his present relaunch.

  32. 177
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    Brown was heard singing this morning:

    Come cheer up my Lads, ’tis to glory we steer,
    To add something more to this wonderful year.
    To honour we call you, as freemen, not slaves,
    For who are so free as the sons of the waves?

    Heart of oak are our ships, jolly tars are our men,
    We always are ready, Steady, boys, steady,
    We’ll fight and we’ll conquer again and again!

  33. 198
    Sir William Waad says:

    Ben Bradshaw might be thinking:

    “I’m not going to have a job after the next election, unless I can persuade Cameron that I would be a good ‘independent’ person to put into the BBC or some broadcasting quango. So if I slag off the BBC now it will improve my career prospects.”

  34. 199
    Trinny says:

    OMG what has Caroline done to herself?

  35. 205
    matthew hopkins says:

    i thought the bbc still ran on cocaine?

  36. 208
    Down with Brown! says:

    The children’s secretary talking Balls again::

    http://page.politicshome.com/uk/balls_defends_atkinson_appointment_to_committee.html

    I know he’s minister for children, but he doesn’t need to behave like one:

    • 224
      Anonymous says:

      Just confirms it really. Being attacked by Dopey Dave is like being savaged by an arthritic toothless Koala.

      • 231
        Down with Brown! says:

        Dave’s good enough to be 17% ahead in the three polls last night.

        Angus Reid/pb.com
        Con 40% Lab 23% LD 20%
        Con 380 Lab 184 LD 55 Nat 10 Min 3
        Con maj 110

        ICM/Guardian
        Con 44% Lab 27% LD 18%
        Con 395 Lab 192 LD 33 Nat 9 Min 3
        Con maj 140

        IPSOS-MORI
        Con 43% Lab 26% LD 19%
        Con 390 Lab 189 LD 41 Nat 9 Min 3
        Con maj 130

  37. 211
    Sir Reginald Titbrain. says:

    Caroline Flint on Daily Politics showing how useless she is at anything above the hotizontal.

    Some talk of a 7p increase in income tax.

  38. 219
    Anonymous says:

    What next for Dithering Dave? Eton only shortlists?

  39. 221
    Anonymous says:

    If the Beeb is adopting this approach can we expect to see pictures of George Osborne snorting a line with various Beeb luvvies?

  40. 223
    Anonymous says:

    Why not Bullingdon only shortlists?

    • 232
      Anonymous says:

      Its obvious. Women only shortlists are designed to provide fresh meat for the Bullingdon members.

  41. 226
    Plobbyist says:

    Presumably he was drowning his sorrows after an abysmal performance in front of the DCMS Select Committee earlier in the day. He has all the smugness of Ed Balls but even less substance! Quite remarkable.

    http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=4866

  42. 229
    RestandBthankful says:

    Why is Ed NoBalls appointing yet another trougher? A children’s minister – the current lot can’t do their jobs. In the current economic climate why do they feel the need to add another little piggy?

  43. 230
    RestandBthankful says:

    Ooops! Children’s COMMISSIONER

  44. 233
    Down with Brown! says:

    Nick Robinson is reporting that Gordon is powerless to stop the Parliamentary Labour Party troughing. The greedy piggies aren’t going to pay up.

  45. 236
    Dick Scratcher says:

    No Live Chat today?

  46. 240
    Down with Brown! says:

    Planted question on Swine Flu. Gordon boasting of the success of producing the vaccine and quoting lots of statistics.

    Ahead of the world, didn’t the Australians have the vaccine a month ago.

    • 328
      Comment says:

      Swine Flu is just a cover to transfer more of our money to parmaceutical drug barons.

      It’s the Blair way, artificially create markets for very few people to benefit from financially

    • 458
      Infanta of Castile says:

      But the swine flu question related principally to a local programme in Scotland which is surely a devolved responsibility.

  47. 241
    Boycott the Licence Fee says:

    Guido, are you losing the plot?? No Monday cartoon and now no PMQs??

    • 245
      BillyBob poops on ZaNuLab says:

      Perhaps the Men in Black have turned up……and taken him away??

    • 252
      Hi there says:

      Times Izzard m’boy !!

      • 296
        Sniffer says:

        Who was the female MP sat behind Jacqui Smith? She looks like that woman who gets out the bath in the Shining – the rotting one :(

        That’s what all women shortlists could lead to

        • 323
          udderly 'orrible says:

          289 …and now Cameroon wants them so its dozens of Tory Jackboots next! Poverty stricken fool.

    • 412
      Anonymous says:

      Maybe there’s something big going down in Westminster (and I don’t mean Jockey Spliff).

  48. 246
    Screw them says:

    Daily Politics is doing a livechat now

  49. 247
    oi loike gold says:

    come on the GBP

  50. 249
    Down with Brown! says:

    He didn’t stop the bill because he couldn’t sell the Royal Mail, he dropped the bill because he couldn’t sell it to his backbenchers!!!!!!

    GB referring to Tory frontbenchers as ministers!!!!

  51. 255
    .243 Win says:

    CMD got a good hit in about the CWU funding cyclops…..

  52. 257
    Down with Brown! says:

    Dave keeps using the word “weakness” to describe GB.

    • 271
      Boycott the Licence Fee says:

      Brown’s now obviously on beta-blockers too, since the side-effects of the antidepressants are now much reduced.

  53. 259
    Down with Brown! says:

    Gordon’s mad now. He’s angry that Dave mentioned the biscuits.

  54. 263
    Anonymous says:

    Blimey, she’s a size!

  55. 263
    Ahead of the World and The Right Thing to Do says:

    I wish they wouldn’t ask me difficult questions…..

  56. 266
    Sniffer says:

    Like a toddler throwing a paddy then, laughing my tits off watching him, he is so easy to wind up.

  57. 267
    Anonymous says:

    Browns losing it on PMQs

  58. 269
    Down with Brown! says:

    Clegg asking a question Mervyn King’s speech. Gordon disagrees strongly with what the Governor said last night.

    The Governor of the Bank of England and the PM are clearly at war!

  59. 275
    Anonymous says:

    Obama mention!

  60. 278
    Down with Brown! says:

    A Labour backbencher refers to Karzai as a corrupt thief. They are no longer on message. Watch out Gordon for the knives in your back.

    • 282
      BillyBob poops on ZaNuLab says:

      Typical ‘cos Gordo say’s that Karzai is a good all round egg and a real snappy dresser!!!

  61. 281
    Anonymous says:

    Greenhouse gasses moonbat alert!

  62. 286
    Boycott the Licence Fee says:

    Brown definitely on beta-blockers to control the shakes.

  63. 287
    • 343
      Sir William Waad says:

      You’ve no idea how expensive kosher champagne is, if you want something drinkable – and if you invite one person to these leaving dos, you have to invite the entire shtetl.

  64. 288
    Anonymous says:

    Lock your doors, it’s the ex. Home Secretary.

  65. 290
    Anonymous says:

    On fucking CO2 now on PMQS

  66. 291
    Down with Brown! says:

    Piggie Jacqui is asking a planted question. Gordon is thanking the thief for everything she has done…….

  67. 292
    Boycott the Licence Fee says:

    Brown thanking Fatti Five Bellies! Bitch should be put down!

  68. 294
    Anonymous says:

    Jacqui Smiff looks a right old munter now

  69. 295
    WrongOnBothCounts and WrongAgain says:

    is that Jacqui Smith?? I mean is that fucking Jacqui SPLIFF????? What the fuck??? Apoplectic fucking apoplectic, me that is not her, she’s a lying cheating whore

  70. 301
    Down with Brown! says:

    Peter Bone asks a question about losing our rebate and Bliar becoming EU President. Gordon responds with lots of tractor statistics. Ignore the bit about Blair.

  71. 303
    .243 Win says:

    Christ. Hain’s been irradiated. Glowing or what ??

  72. 305
    Anonymous says:

    Gordon Brown is a real cnut

  73. 308
    Anonymous says:

    Hes going to cure diabetes now.

  74. 309
    talk about dogs says:

    Jacqui smith looked awful (more awful than before) . Why isn’t she sleeping at night?

  75. 310
    Anonymous says:

    Harman is looking hot!

  76. 313
    Down with Brown! says:

    Fat Leftie sitting near Skinner slags off Brown for letting poor people subsidise bankers. I sense a major rebellion coming.

  77. 314
    Be Gone Gordon ! says:

    Bob Ainsworth Minister of Defence and can’t be bothered to wear a poppy – he’s a first class weapons grade contemptable ar*ehole

  78. 316
    Anonymous says:

    Wee dougies nose is growing biger by the day

  79. 317
    Anonymous says:

    Mrs. Balls is looking a bit retarded

  80. 320
    Anonymous says:

    Next labour government thats a laugh

  81. 322
    GordonBrown's My Dad says:

    ………and he’s fuckin’ mad

    all the rumours are true……….

  82. 323
    Stronghold Barricades says:

    Could we not get him a free ticket to the British Antarctic base for next February?

  83. 327
    Nearing Normality says:

    who’s the boris look-a-like just sitting behind georgie osborne?

  84. 329
    Geordie Girl says:

    What’s with all these North Eastern Labour MPs being called to speak. At least 4 now – all of them as thick as two short planks.

  85. 330
    Boycott the Licence Fee says:

    Jaqui Smith looks like the female equivalent of Mr. Creosote:
    Seeing this smelly, one-eyed pile of jock shite wheeled out yet again makes me ashamed to be British. When is Mandy going to hand the useless fucker a pearl-handled revolver and a stiff drink FFS?

  86. 336
    Down with Brown! says:

    Ratings:

    Cameron 5 ( Dull questions, but linked the strike and GB’s poor leadership).
    Brown 1 (Evasive, grumpy, angry at times, linked himself to Jacqui Smith).
    Clegg 7 (Good questions, poor delivery as always).

    • 360
      South of the M4 says:

      Clegg might ask a good question, but he will not understand the answer. The man and his party are an irrelevance.

      It is a pity that Cameroon did not bring a link into the PSBR figures of yesterday, or King’s comments on the economy. If his strategy is to make Brown lose the plot then Brown will get the sympathy vote from his supporters. For it is they who should be made to see the link between Brown and the *ucked up economy.

      Cameroon 5? You are being over-generous. He still under-performs.

      • 383
        Down with Brown! says:

        Cameron wasted his four middle questions by asking the same thing. But he annoyed Brown big time by mentioning the biscuit indecision as an example of his poor leadership. Brown had a whole set of statistics in his back pocket about the banks and the deficit but instead he had to answer a question about why he can’t decide what his favourite biscuit is.

  87. 339

    funniest PMQs for ages – he’s off his fucking nut, surrounded by sychophants, the morbidly obese and/or orange, and crooks. What must the rest of the world think of us?

    • 356
      joker says:

      it’s the multi-coloured swap shop innit

    • 358
      Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

      Nothing. They won’t be watching.

      And wouldnt it be a bit like on Father ted when they looked at “rugged island”, or when you catch sight of a foreign version of weakest link.

      Of course Jean-Marie LePen would never suggest that the army chiefs should be hanged for taking France into illegal wars.

    • 394
      streamfisher says:

      Britain’s got talent,

    • 436
      The Sleeper says:

      To be honest,PMQ’s is a complete waste of time now.

      I’m sick and tired of the planted questions that give Brown the opening to dive headlong into Party politics.

      PMQ’s is supposed to be the tool for Opposition parties to bring Government to account. Wasting valuable time by planted questions from Labour stooges is not what it is supposed to be.

  88. 345
    Govt By Cluster-Fuck says:

    Devils Kitchen gone ?

    http://devilskitchen.me.uk/

    • 374

      Humm… Maybe he’s given up the fight? DK was pissed off with the whining about him threatening to punch some Hunt in the Hunt and throw her in the sea. It seems even the libertarians are becoming infested with PC. It’s a fucking war….

  89. 347
    Down with Brown! says:

    In other news Alaister Darling things borrowing is the best route to recover. He thinks debt is dandy. Watch the black hole get bigger and bigger.

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE59K27Z20091021?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

    “Withdrawing the support we’ve provided to the economy would put the recovery at risk and abandon people facing unemployment,” Darling will say at Reuters Newsmaker event in London, according to extracts from his speech given to Reuters. “Borrowing to support people now and to invest in the future may feel counter-intuitive … But in the longer run it will mean the bills we face as a country are lower, and that we are better placed to pay them off.”

    • 406
      streamfisher says:

      Said old mother hubbard as she was forcibly escorted from her hovel by the bailiffs and thrown into the debtors prison.

  90. 353
    Dr Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Another fucking knob jockey
    McMental seems to like to surround himself with them doesnt he?
    Now Im no poof hater (OK I am) but its a bit fucking odd how many male politicians enjoy smoking the one eyed owl isnt it?
    As a I would suggest that most of them suffer from “Dirtythievingdegenerativeitus”
    Symptoms are
    An elavated sense of importance, kleptomania and sexual deviancey

  91. 361
    Dick Scratcher says:

    If Cameron wants a battle with Tory bloggers he can have one – but we won’t vote for him. Pillock.

  92. 362
    Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

    What an ugly c’unt Ed.Milliband is!
    Laughing his bollox off throughout PMQ’s
    Why don’t he get a job at the London Dungeon
    scaring kids? They would make a fortune not
    having to employ makeup artists.

  93. 369
    Obama Beach says:

    The most telling thing regarding BBC bias is their removal of the pollwatch.
    If anyone wanted proof then this is it.

    Not a single mention of the triple poll result in one night all giving the same lead for the Tories a common outcome almost unprecedented according to Pb.com

    The BBC are just cowards and must be done away with at the very earliest opportunity

    • 379
      Fuck the Mainstream Media says:

      Bush House and TV Centre should be burned down and the ground they occupied salted so that nothing may ever grow in their place.

  94. 377
    barefootcontessa says:

    Brillo talking goats on tv now. Flint throwing her weight about. God she looks shagged out!

  95. 382
    British Jobs for anyone but the English says:

    Clap Clap Clap Clap

    Well done, I’ve been sacked this morning for being on the BP membership list.

    Now who do you think i’ve got no other choice but to vote for now i’m persona non grata with no chance of remployment.

    I hope you all enjoy forking out for the lifetime worth of benefits, I will be on now. Seeing i’m deemed not worthy enough to earn a wage or pay taxes in society anymore.

    I’m just waiting for the crowd with pitchforks to come get me or my family outside the house now.

    Clap Clap Clap

    Well done you got what you wanted.

    • 386
      UK DebtSlave says:

      Well I’m not a BNP supporter but that is pretty disgraceful to lose your job over your political beliefs.

      Truly the thin end of the wedge.

      • 453
        National Y Fronts for the Librarianisation of the Folk of England says:

        Why so unhappy?
        Don’t you understand the point is that you have lost your job.
        This is all going to plan, excellent.
        Now you can use your undoubted powers of persuasion to get others to follow you.
        The path to power will be paved with loyal followers, there will be casualties. But when we achieve power we will be able to deal with any opposition summarily, no questions asked.

        One Folk!
        One Party!
        One Leader!
        Hail!

    • 389

      Are you John Prescott by any chance?

    • 393

      what who wanted? No one here I’m sure. What were the grounds for dismissal?

      • 413
        British Jobs for anyone but the English says:

        Being a member of a banned organisation that comprimises my ability to do the job, yes supposedly I actually spent my days arresting black people or asian people solely on their colour.

        Infact they where all innocent, those drugs I must of planted on them, I must of punched the people they punched, It was me white cop who stabbed people and planted the knives on the innocent etc. etc.

        All white english cops are racist and it’s a grand conspiracy against everyone of colour that the crime figures in regards to them are so high.

        • 418
          British Jobs for anyone but the English says:

          Looks like I’ll be in the local paper and news as well if not the national news and papers.

        • 421
          UK DebtSlave says:

          If you are an (ex) copper, then most of what you do is to enforce the regulations and rules of a corporation. Nothing to do with law at all.

          Our ancient common law system has been virtually usurped by admiralty law, the laws of bankruptcy and commerce.

          I don’t have any sympathy with the police anymore. Too bad that you lost your job. At least you wont be able to arrest people for non crimes like taking photos of public buildings or wearing a T-shirt with FUCK BLIAR written on it.

  96. 391
    Down with Brown! says:

    Watching back. Brown said that three million British jobs depended on our membership of the EU. Surely this is total nonsense.

  97. 397
    Down with Brown! says:

    England’s going Tory.

    Latest poll for England:

    CON 47 (+8)
    LAB 24 (-1)
    LD21 (-3)

    source: MORI

  98. 402
    Down with Brown! says:

    Legg writes to Ken Clarke to say sorry for over-charging. So the Tory front bench have all paid up.

    http://waugh.standard.co.uk/2009/10/legg-apologises-to-ken-clarke.html

    Oh dear. Sir Thomas Legg has just written to Ken Clarke to offer an “unreserved apology” for getting his sums wrong and for demanding more than £4,000 “payback” for expenses claims.

    The payback demand has been revised down to £1,345. Clarke will see this as a vindication of his clear refusal to accept the Legg letter’s calculations.

    The reason for the error is duplicated forms, I’m told. Yet more proof of the chaos of the Fees Office, maybe?

    Sources close to the Shadow Business Sec stress, however, that he is not against the Legg review in principle.

    But this blunder will be manna from heaven for those MPs who believe the whole process has been shabbily handled and ineptly executed.

    It can only undermine the credibility of the Legg team, that’s for sure.

    • 420
      Odds Bodkins says:

      Probably an honest mistake guv’nor. So it’s all right for MPs to fuck up big time, but not ok for others to make mistakes. I was Legg I wouldn’t apologize, they still gotta pay up.

    • 423
      DelBoy says:

      Abso – bloody- lutely not. He has exposed many gits and £1345 is not just a round of drinks is it?

    • 429
      UK DebtSlave says:

      Cuddly Ken Clarke? Not the hush puppy wearing, jazz loving, cigar smoking Bilderberg fascist? surely not. He’s a jolly decent chap.

      I hope he ends up hanging from a lampost like the rest of them.

    • 442
      Doc Trough says:

      I hadn’t realised until last week that he does a Beavis and Butthead “huh huh huhuh” thing between sentences. Is that a recent thing?

  99. 410
    Down with Brown! says:

    BBC leading on Leaders clash over postal dispute , Sky News showing GB getting angry.

    • 428
      Lizzie says:

      Yes and doesn’t Brown look “silly” when he gets angry, he just makes me laugh at him more.

      • 440
        Down with Brown! says:

        Cameron’s performance on the TV highlights looks much better than it did live at the time. Yes, it was boring stuff at the time. But people watching the news tonight will agree that Brown is weak.

  100. 416
    the people hate gordon brown says:

    Angus Reid/pb.com
    Con 40% Lab 23% LD 20%
    Con 380 Lab 184 LD 55 Nat 10 Min 3
    Con maj 110

    ICM/Guardian
    Con 44% Lab 27% LD 18%
    Con 395 Lab 192 LD 33 Nat 9 Min 3
    Con maj 140

    IPSOS-MORI
    Con 43% Lab 26% LD 19%
    Con 390 Lab 189 LD 41 Nat 9 Min 3
    Con maj 130

    MORI
    CON 47 (+8)
    LAB 24 (-1)
    LD21 (-3)

  101. 419
    Lizzie says:

    PMQ’s is really quite boring and uneventful each week. It is a picture of a dying government in it’s death throes. All stepping on egg shells, there a so many “elephants” in the hall, one wrong move and “your dead” almost. How this is all going to go on until next May seems impossible. Over 100 of the MPs apparently not standing again, what a shabby state of affairs. It would be kinder to the nation to call a General Election this Autumn than dragging this sorry state of a government along for months ahead. Come on Brown put yourself out of your own misery!

    • 432
      Anonymous says:

      This parliment is dead in the water, the Pm looks awful, the government backbenches are off message, the cons and the libs should go for the killer blow asap to save the country, may willbe to late.

  102. 460
    Anonymous says:

    Just how many seats is Dithering Dave going to try and “dump” on with his women only lists?

  103. 461
    Anonymous says:

    Nu Labour Freebie= Not in my name



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