60 Million of Us, 646 of Them
The FT’s Jim Pickard is reporting that representatives of the Tory 1922 Committee are meeting with representatives of Labour’s PLP to discuss fighting Legg and his letters. Proof, if proof were needed, that the political class looks after itself first, us second.
The sense of self-entitlement of a British politician is a marvel to behold, troughers like the ridiculous Sir Stuart Bell wander from broadcast studio to broadcast studio bemoaning the unfairness of being asked to justify the depths to which they sunk their snoughts in the trough. Sir Stuart incidentally employed his wife on some £35,000 – obviously on merit. Now the venal cross-party porker’s alliance is coming out into the open. Stop squealing start paying, you have been ripping us off for too long. Welcome to the real world porkers…
So Dave is going to de select the 1922 committee then is he?
£1922 paid back each will do for starters!!
Gorbals Mick, a known thief, sworn in as Baron Springburn
This has to stop. Somebody is going to get hurt
Never hear of a robber Baron sonny?
Join me on November 5th. Enough is enough
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Old holborn I think you had better look at your posting from another computer?
“[ichc-flickr-slide width="400" height="300" username="straytoaster" set_id="72157608685679009" player_r="71649"]” … the most sensible and interesting, and grammatical, thing he has written for 3 years.
To be governed is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so.
To be governed is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be placed under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonoured.
That is government; that is it’s justice; that is its morality.
What a bag of cockdribble html is.
Right, back to hyperlinks it is then
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No, LJ, that last one (at 11:30pm) is the most sensible and interesting, and grammatical, thing he has written for 3 years
Old Holborn
Here Here
Very simple. Appoint a committee of NON-MP’s to investigate all fraudulent claims prior to 1/1/2007 (start of the current Fraud Act) and again prior to that date (subject to previous legislation. Given that this is the public purse then there is no statute of limitation on fraud by a public servant (MPs are public servants) so we can go right back to these foul troughers’ inauguration into Westminster’s finest cesspit.
We have the courts, we have the prisons and we have the laws to convict them with.
That is a very good idea seeing as all MP’s would have voted or heard about the 2006 Fraud Act and its aspects. The SFO should be doing this without prompt?
would get that piece ‘o shit blair too!
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nice.
Here’s when we find out if he’s got any real cojones!!
Indeed, there will be a lot of tory or UKIP votes resting on what Cam does next.
These troughers need to be strung up, tory and labour a-like.
Don’t forget that Michal Kaminski, of ‘Poles murdering Jews is nothing to apologise about’, fame and the head of the Conservitudes’ European Parliament grouping is in favour of the Lisbon Treaty.
Yes Kaminski is in favour of the Lisbon Treaty, so why has Dave joined the grouping of the weird?
No! He’s just left the grouping of the weird. He’s now joined the grouping of the more weird.
Thanks, Hugh. UKIP are fielding 500 PPCs’. Not Right wing or Left wing, – just patriots who believe Parliament should be a peoples’ Parliament
No they’re not that twats in polyester blazers.
There are some constituencies where UKIP declines to stand due to a shady backstairs deal with some other candidate(s) – you know who you are. That only leaves the BNP as a feasible vote for those determined to protest about the EU. Is that what they want ? Because that’s what they’ll get.
Thanks Mr Schwartzporsche,
It seems that Carter Ruck got to the video?
>Thanks Mr Schwartzporsche,
>It seems that Carter Ruck got to the video?
And I mean that really sincerely, folks.
MB, attention deficit disorder?
Er, OK TaT. Right you are then.
what the fuck are you going on about ivor?
go easy on the superskunk for fucks sake.
Master Baitor-if ever there was a case for defamation. That is untrue and for your information: Daniel Hannan has a video interview where he corrects the mis-informed like you.
er, ivor, hannan’s a lunatic.
best not to raise his name in pleasant company.
now go about your business.
Err Dan Hannan is unusual in that he’s a popular and intelligent politician.
However you Thick as Thieves are usual in being insignificant and stupid.
no no, hannan’s a loon.
best to keep that c’unt in the cellar.
and mind your tongue when you are talking to top boy.
you fucking retard.
Quotes from Kaminski
On Lisbon Treaty
“I was on the side of those who were in favour of the Lisbon Treaty. It is well known in Poland. It is not a secret,”
On Poles apologising for murdering Jews
“My position is that there were acts of collaboration of the Jewish people with the Soviet army when the Soviet army came to Poland. It’s a fact. It’s a historical fact… If you are asking the Polish nation to apologise for the crime made in Jedwabne, you would require from the whole Jewish nation to apologise for what some Jewish Communists did in Eastern Poland.”
Nice man
having found out more about the fatfuck gayhater anitsemite kaminski I must say that on this one occasion, and I can assure the reader it will be the one and only time cross my heart and hope to die, that I am in agreement with titbox.
kaminski is SCUM and it comes as no surprise to me whatsoever that the TORY SCUM PARTY should hook up with an ANTI-SEMITE SCUM PARTY: ’tis a marriage made in hell, innit.
’tis nothing more than an extension and blurring of the beliefs of the majority of the right wing racist inadequates that infest the tory party.
let us not forget the TORY SCUM PARTY were the party who lost the empire, the party who sold the infrastructure, the party who cheered on the markets, the ones who voted in the greatest numbers for WAR AND OCCUPATION; the tory thieves are yesterday’s men, on the wrong side of history.
and anyone who votes for a millionaire housing benefit cheat and thief like david cameron and gideon snortlot who knows fuck all about economics must be a total fucking wanker.
FUCK GORDON FUCK DAVE THEY ARE WANKERS
DON’T BE A WANKER – VOTE INDEPENDENT
oh, one last thing masterbaiter, you have just used the Holocaust of the Jewish race to score a cheap political point on the lisbon constitution.
you are fucking scum you lowlife c’unt. it does not get much lower.
the Jewish people experienced hell on earth during the Holocaust and you try to score cheap points.
you fucking wanker.
you fucking satanist black magic motherfucker.
take your black magic spells and fuck off elsewhere you piece of shit.
you are not welcome here masterbaiter.
fuck off.
TaT. You are right.
MB
when you sort out Bob Ainsworth IRA supporter and then move on to some of the delightful characters Labour sit with in the Europarliament themselves, your comments will have some relevance.
Until then it’s just spin.
Kaminski is in favour of the Lisbon treaty.
Kaminski leads Conservitudes grouping in European Parliament.
What’s it all mean Einstein?
Surprisingly they haven’t got a clip of my saying “Morning Kippers” to them!
These people were a laughing stock – everyone was taking the mick out of them….
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
Master Baitor- Starting an illegal invasion of Iraq does not make me obligated to apologise for the deaths of innocent iraqis’ much as I would like to see the war crimes judges seek punishment and convictions of culprits. I support our armed forces but am not an apologist for the UK. Listen carefully to Hannan and read, again, your own cut and paste
I seem to have missed something but what exactly is the word ‘Conservitudes’ supposed to mean or imply?
Conservitude is a pleasant piece of music played by the Conservatoire and entitled an “etude”, I think.
No that’s a quaalude.
A conservitude is a conservatory that has been approved by the fees office.
Its functional, delightful and adds value to the paid for second home.
Even better, they’re free.
The way I see it is some conservatives aren’t really conservatives.
Dave cameron is one of those. Daniel Hannan wants a referendum regardless of Lisbon and so do true conservatives. You can be a traditional Labour or libdem supporter and be patriotic at the same time though. Vote UKIP if you want to continue sovereign political choice in future, whereby you are then able to advocate the domestic politics of your free choice and vote accordingly without threat of arrest or sanction.
LOL, CMD shit himself over a referendum promise he did not want to honour. Thank God the Irish caved in and saved him from an embarrassing dilemma.
Now he can just wait until there is nothing he or anyone else can do and then impotently stamp his feet and pretend it is all “their” fault and he never wanted Lisbon to be ratified, but now that it is, well, we just have to get on and make the most of it.
Why even now BoJo is talking about implementing the very same road pricing the EU demanded years ago to justify Galileo, that ZaNuLab have already signed up to.
Some choice? No choice actually, the big three, are ALL the bloody same.
My Tory MP, whilst not a trougher of Pickles Proportions, will not get my vote without a cast iron guarantee of a referendum.
To say he can’t do anything post ratification shows how little vision of the size of change that is required/possible he has
Nigel, you become more and more attractive
maybe we could all write to prospective tory MPs and make clear that without a cast-iron promise form them to push for a referendum they will lose our vote to UKIP. Must be a fair few seats where the Tories are hoping to take strong labour seats by getting maybe a few hundred majority – this puts a small number of activists in a powerful position – take those few hundred to UKIP and Cameron loses another seat.
Ditto. we need to motivate the non-voters in HUGE numbers though. Tell them that THEY are the majority. THEY have the power, if only they would use it to vote against the so-called “big-three”
Okay, perhaps you chaps or chapesses are far better informed than I. If the treaty is ratified before the election, does this not negate us having a referendum? Some one help this woefully under informed personage from the land of the depressed.
What is the point of having a Referendum if Lisbon has come into force? “Stable”, “horse” and “bolted” are the words that come to mind here…
A vision might include a complete withdrawal post ratification
A poster last week laid out the legal logic, referendum, withdrawal at 5pm Friday, just walk away, leave them with Bliar and the wide mouthed frog, EU have to sort out contracts of staffers etc
Things really must change.
We should have a referendum on being in or out of europe. Period.
There is nothing to be afraid of if the vote is OUT. We can, over time, keep similarities as suits us and change where there is advantage: such as electrical sockets, vehicle specifications, whatever.
I am adament that our politics should be wholly sovereign. Iam Sick mentioned galileo. I am very familiar with galileo and we contribute to galileo and this wouldn’t change one jot being out of europe political control.
There cannot be a referendum on “Lisbon” once it is ratified; what would the question be for a start (because you cannot “un-ratify” ie it is done)?
There could be a referendum on continued membership of the EU but that is less cut and dried than crashing Lisbon. It is one furthermore that could be lost and what then?
In practical terms Dave’s only “anti-EU” option post-ratification is to start negotiations for the UK to have certain powers and opt outs returned and he would not need a referendum for that ie he would have just been elected and that is all the mandate he needs.
If the EU will not renegotiate then Dave’s ulimate recourse is a referendum on the EU and by that time the form (and question) and the support to ensure a win gauged and put in place.
UKIP needs to grow up because at this rate, without much in the way of brains in play, they will simply split the anti-EU vote and give ZaNuLab another miserable two years.
BTW I am totally anti the turgid, socialist, federalist, lying, cheating and corrupt EU. I am no pinko by any means but you have to plan properly, this must not go wrong.
And two more years of McDoom and the IMF running the Treasury will deliver a broken-backed nation happily into the arms of the EUSSR.
Thanks. I figured that was the point. And I am with you concerning Europe. It makes no sense whatsoever.
McDoom has nicely bankrupted the country ready to hand over to the EU while his cronies have been manouvering for nice unelected jobs there. Have we been had.
I’m afraid a nation cannot be held to account for a signature of a mad man.
Every day is a school day Max,
Not at my age, Reg; would most certainly be arrested.
Max- the way to do it is to create one area of the treaty as being contentious and in need of amendment. You then go to Brussels and re-negotiate that part. WHen that is cleared you return t the UK and request a referendum based on that part but can widen the issues.
Therefore, as WIlson in the early 70;s was able to hold a referendum, the same question could be legitimately asked. If the UK vote to reduce powers already transferred to the EU we have a result and the whole treaty and EU becomes void.
Yes we may be forced out, but we will regain our seas, and other benefiots, we coudl sell the North Sea to China so they can feed Cod to their people.
That would fuck up the Frogs and Krauts.
Well done Max.
People must focus on getting the GE and harry ZNL into having one sooner than they’d like… President Klaus may be able to hold out for us for the Tory’s, but we’ve got to do out part too. We nearly got it in the summer… Brown nearly toppled , we’ve got to do it again and make his and the rest of the Government’s life a misery.
Yes, ie need to get elected first. ZNL will do none of this and UKIP will never win so cannot. Get in first, hold Dave to account after. Planning is what wins wars; emotion is great to get people over the tops of trenches and (likely) killed. I am not in this to get killed trying, I am in this to succeed alive.
As no government is allowed to bind a successive government then DC can just declare ratification as null and void as he knows only too well but hey ho why bother? he’s one of the elite and will have a seat at the top table when the time is right!!!
We are the EU, You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile
You can’t renegotiate the lisbon treaty once in place and signed by all 27 members. It is simply imposible. It has to be an in/out referendum but there is nothing to say Dave can’t have further referendum to agree on common agreements between europe and UK.
This europe business is totally about socialist corporatism and political control as we know from the political wish lists of former european statesmen and our own traitorous politicians over the past decades.
There can be no pussy footing around at the next general election. It has to be In or Out.
Max-I’m afraid I don’t agree with you. Like for like it will be like the british patriots equal to the native corsicans.Europe being like our France is to them.
We must have a vote on our gov’nance whether you are pro-europe or eurosceptic. without a majority approval there is guarenteed to be insurection and we know what our present leaders call foreign patriots. ‘Insurgents or terrorists.
I don’t want to be called a terrorist in my own country fighting for democracy back which was taken from me without majority consent.
Just before I retire to my nice bottle of red for the evening, I do understand what is being said but to win this requires a huge degree of subtlety. You have seen the Irish being soft soaped down this path and they were allowed to vote!
The first hurdle is getting Dave in and if he is not in then rest assured all is lost and England will simply be just another state in the EUSSR. Every vote for UKIP is a vote in the correct place for ZNL. I wish it was not so but in 2010 it is.
After 2010 a referendum is the wrong thing almost regardless of the “question” because, particularly if it is “in or out” that vote will be lost. And as I said earlier, then what?
Everyone’s passion here is fine and that passion will get you over the top and shot. Poignant but for what end? The battle will be lost.
I know this is counter-intuitive but believe me heaping the pressure on for a referendum after ratification and before any meaningful renegotiations is the wrong tactic. Why else do you think every numbskull in ZNL is racking that scenario up? They are not onside for goodness sake so the glee is for their purposes not ours.
If Dave fooks up then punish him after his first term. Don’t nobble him before he goes to war by letting the McDooms back in, nor nobble any chance of a strategy by prematurely using the nuclear option!
A yes/no vote is likely to be lost. Once you get that into your head you need to realign what you are doing in order to attain the objective.
Strategy. Tactics. Need to win not die trying.
Max. Isn’t it great being allowed to converse in a free country?
I don’t believe the in?out vote would be lost to the ‘Ins’. If that were the case we would have been given a referendum on the treatyconstitution.
If in doubt have a vote which is what we want. Dave can do nothing once we accept him and lisbon after Jan 1st 2010. I was re-reading the lisbon treaty again last night(without the other part 1 or the constitution) and even reading that amended looks very sinister and irreconcilable. Any changes need full agreement and he will need the agreement of other states just to ask the question of any change.
Have you read it I ask?
Let’s clear the air here.
If significant numbers don’t vote tory because they are insistent upon a “referendum” on Europe (wording unknown or yes/no, it is irrelevant) then ZNL will get back in.
What is your Plan B?
Important story
Carter-Ruck has gagged the Independent
http://tory-politico.com/2009/10/independents-story-about-trafigura-goes-offline/
Sure they weren’t just feeling jealous of the Guardian?
Those internal emails quoted in the independent stroy (reason for the gag) can be found here:
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Guardian/documents/2009/09/16/Final_emails.pdf
Ta Muchly. v interesting.
HANG EM, DRAW ‘EM THEN QUARTER ‘EM
I’m NOT joking!
Don’t hang them, just draw and quarter them.
Would be a good idea, one or two just to ensure that the rest know we’re serious.
To be honest I think paying back of excessive gardenig and cleanng claims is a scam to deflect attention from the big frauds such as mortgages and flipping.
Give the public some chicken feed and hope they ignore the banquet.
Really do agree with you, throw a few scraps to the general public in the hope we forget that the Big Money was made by many in Cabinet.
If Cameron really kicks the shit out of his money grabbing MPs he’ll get a huge vote from the people. Fuck the BBC they just want to stick up for fellow leftie money grabbing bastards.
At this point, the Tories seem to have my vote… I am afraid Labour is merely a poor replica of a party for the people and the Lib Dems are frankly a joke!
Europe still the issue with Dave, bit of a show stopper really
How mny billions do we pay into the EU? Still plenty of clout left as long as Gordon hasn’t bankrupted us completely.
Fair play to R5 tonight talking to fattie Hattie.
Are you going to respond to my question about Labour MPs having to pay back expenses or just continue to answer a question I haven’t asked?
Yup, even Peter Allen is nervously sniffing the winds of change.
Bill – Is there a link to that interview with Hattie.
I don’t want to see it. I’ve only just recovered from vomiting macaroni cheese into me fresh made coleslaw. It’s a bugger to separate.
Brown’s a Tosser:
it will be on the drive time listen again but its not worth it. Harm-men was just going on about consensus as the great ditherer hadn’t decided what to do to respond to Dave’s hard line before the interview started. So she waffled until a very bored Peter Allen asked her to stop.
The BBC is also fearful of retribution when their expenses are finally brought under public scrutiny.
As they should be, what the fuck is a Fearne Cotton?
Here in Scotland the BBC have an interesting take on the expenses row. Only mention the SNP’s expenses even though they are all paying them back with no objections, never mention the Labour Party at all. Frighteningly they all seem to have to be Party Supporters, so much for the BBC impartiality.
Funny you should say that J Smith gets caught red handed and does not have to repay over 100000,The man who presided over this fiasco is made a Baron after a quasi sacking and the newsnight leads leads on the shadow cabinet having to pay back 17000 in expenses with barely a mention of Smith, Martin or their top trougher owing 12000.
If Cameron can get all his MPs to pay, the election will be definitely be a Tory landslide. Expect serious pressure from Team Cameron for all the blue piggies to give over their money.
Just because M.P.’s have paid sums back, it doesn’t mean that they are not troughers and quite frankly, the public have had enough of the lot of them, whichever party they belong to.
Independents are the way forward. There is no alternative, if you want to see any chance of democracy returning to this country.
Guido –
Stuart Bell employed both his wife and his son on a total wage of £50,000 per annum.
Get your facts right please!
Time for the version of the Swazi option methinks.
A few years ago the late monarch of Swaziland finally decided his people should have a parliament. Queue much rejoicing until the would be pols read the small print – no political parties.
Naturally this caused much wailing and gnashing of teeth amongst the usual suspects in the Southern African political class, and I suspect that HM Swazi did not have democratic motives, but, personally, I do wonder if this does not have some democratic merit.
For one thing each candidate would have to set out his own policy position and present it directly to his electors. At the end of his term there would also be greater pressure on him to answer to that electorate in terms of what he promised versus how he performed.
Secondly, elected MPs would be spared the the the huge conflict of loyalties they now suffer – follow the party line or actually vote how their constituents and conscience dictate. As we all know, under the current system in Westminster, the parties, with all their power to grant and withold patronage, usually win that fight.
Obviously the corrolary to this is that the electorate would still need to become more involved than they are at present but I think it would be a step in the right direction.
Hi everyone, please go along to my blog and give me support. I am a young card-carrying Tory and am keen to be heard! http://conservative-vision.blogspot.com/
Who are you?
Party volunteer, bit of a knob by all accounts
Careful – he may be the next leader
Someone admits to being a card-carrying tory when he should be chasing pussy and having fun?
Bit of a nob..
And he writes in a style which is needlessly verbose…
It’s so boring, I’m bored to tears : * (
Go and buy some google ads
Bog off
Buy me a beer or get me laid and I shall read your blog. Otherwise, sod off.
Give him/her a chance… at least s/he’s doing something with his/her time a Uni rather than wasting time drinking and debauching…
On second thoughts…
Blog Off.
Bit of a twat too
Go tell Dave we want a referendum-then you will get traffic
Then why post as anonymous?
You’re entering the lion’s den here An; start by posting un-anonymously and remove your link or Guido will soon be kicking your arse and banning you.
Anon,
A better way to attract readers is to comment here about the topic under discussion and using your blog ID (not anon). Your erudition and wit will then inspire readers to follow the link to your own blog. Well, that’s the theory, at least more likely to attract readers than your current advertising strategy.
This matters far more to MPs than:
The economy
Afghanistan
Poverty
The Lisbon Treaty
Crime
Education
Nuclear proliferation
Energy supplies
Well of course it does. Those other things merely affect OUR pockets. The MP’s don’t really give a shit about anything until it affects THEIR pockets!
This shows how out of touch MPs are with the Public – not to mention their selfish money-grabbing crookery
It presents an opportunity for Mr Cameron to demonstrate leadership – or we’d just as well all go and vote UKIP
Yeah-and don’t take too long over it , Dave. ‘Else we’ll still vote UKIP ‘cos we think you are too slow and indecisive. Which you are.
VOTE UKIP! F*ck the EU. F*ck Milliband! F*ck Gordon! F*ck Cowan! F*ck Barroso!
F*ck’em all!
I feel so much better for that….
The prognosis for Dave to show real leadership is not looking good on the evidence available
He is more of a manager than leader, shame, such potential, and his grooming has cost a bit over the years, not very good value for money Mr Cameroon snr
O/T 5 Bellies said she was the poster girl for troughers, definitely nominate her as Marie Antoinette of our revolution
Naturally.
Westminster cannot do anything about your list.
Westminster is the regional talking shop of the EU, with no power at all.
Hi everyone, please go along to my blog and give me support. I am a young card-carrying Tory and am keen to be heard! Vist me at http://conservative-vision.blogspot.com/
This is going to get very annoying very quickly, son.
Its rather sweet
probably a young lady then
I may take a peep if my computer packs up. I’m busy right now.
Get lost
You might be “heard” a little more if you wrote something that wasn’t quite such tedious shite.
Hey IRB do you still put yourself through a time stamper?
I smell a troll here. Having seen how effective Hardwidge and P4edo are at strengthening Tory support, some bright spark at Unite or somewhere like that has decided to try the trick in reverse.
Is that what they do?
Is this a young William Hague I see before me? Thought not. Do one sonny.
Well he can either go and sink 10 pints or better still go and find some young Tory “intern” totty to give a good knobbin’ to. Mummy need never know !!! His secret will be safe with us !!!
Repeat it until you think it might happen?
Ever thought of joining ZaNuLab?
Claims to be a Conservitude
A playmate for you, MB. Why don’t you go over and find out. He’s not going to hurt you. Show him your rattle. See, he’s got one just like yours.
God is Truth is Love
No charge
MB
since you’re clearly in religious mode
Isiah 54 V 1
“burst into song, shout for joy, you who were never in labour ”
( taken from the NIV Bible)
Time to sell the Manse perhaps.
Yeah, as I walk through the valley of the shadow of death and see the mighty destruction wrought upon the land, I think ..
What the hell have I done?
Gordon’s letters to the IMF
chumpter 5. verse 666
Fuck off already.
Fuck the fuck off.
Election now.
They must not be allowed to resign before the election.
They mustn’t be allowed to renew their passports
Might just work out cheaper, and sequestrate all their assets to pay towards the national debt
It seems the “ruling classes” have learnt very little in the intervening 220 years.
They should know that “The Mob” when roused is unstoppable
Well I suppose if they get angry enough with gordon he’ll reverse his statement that they must pay the demands.
How will that improve his and their image in the public eye?
Some of them are going to get a rude awakening when they start knocking on doors come the next GE asking for votes.
Hand them an invoice as they start spouting!
Oh PLEASE let them knock on my door. PLLLLEEEEAAAASSSSEEEEE!!!!
I have been training hard down at the dojo and could do with a dummy to practice on before my next grading!
I have been training my dog to savage anything with a red rosette.
Is it a Rhodesian Ridgeback?
I do hope so.
Grrr
Woof
I don’t think I want my MP knocking on my door to ask if I’m going to vote for her. There is a serious danger I would laugh so much it would kill me.
To quote an old chestnut “Don’t vote for politicians it only encourages the bastards”
That’s incredible, a talking chestnut. What will they think of next?
a talking horse chestnut perhaps?
These idiots are doing all they can to provoke the public.
Interesting isn’t it?
They really don’t get it. There are two theories I guess; the first is that the whole shebang is one big mass of agent provocateurs, and they’re intentionally goading the population into violent revolt so as to justify a clampdown. But I don’t think so – firstly, because they’d all be dead, and I doubt they’re that keen on being torn limb from limb. Secondly because a revolt is uncontrolled – wild, unpredictable – and that is something business and geopolitik hates.
So I tend towards the second theory – they just don’t get it. They honestly don’t realise how close to the edge they are. Their psychology is conservative; they figure how things is the way things will always be. They look at the docile compliant host population, and they think they can suck our blood forever. They’re locked into a vision that sees this as the natural order. It is, as someone said earlier, an echo of the chatter regarding the divine right of kings. They’re convinced this is how it is meant to be. Something will trigger it – perhaps general economic decline, perhaps a single shattering event, but something will trigger the revolt, and it will spread through this angry country like a shockwave through a super saturated solution; every furious man will cross his own threshhold as one. No warm up, no fight or flight signals, straight from placidity to homocidal rage. Click.
Click.
They are either in serious denial or just think they can get away with it as they know the public’s mood (or do they!). I would guess that 80% of Joe Public would be that embarrassed in that similar situation that they couldn’t live with the shame of it all, the ratio for MPs to feel that way is probably 20%! 80-20 rule once again is significant!
Impotence must be hard to bear.
It’s not as though it grows on you, is it?
It’s growing quite well on Gordon.
Grammar: ‘as though it’ is slovenly English. Those who express themselves in a slovenly fashion reveal nothing but a slovenly pattern of thought.
Yeah, quite right, whatever.
I’d go for an enhancement of the second theory.
The ones that do get it, or sort of get it, keep their mouths shut. The terminally vain or stupid get their idiotic soundbites promoted by the media.
I don’t see the population getting that over excited though.
People are not fascinated by this, only frothing and foaming self righteous dimwitted right wing types, really.
The rest of the population is less primitive.
They are more nuanced in there reactions.
“their”
Seriously, I refuse to take lessons on mass psychology from a pubescent desk jockey who can’t even spell…
The District Nurse came to my house this morning, the News was on and when I turned it off, I asked her her views on 5 Bellies, hadn’t heard of her,
Don’t you believe it, young Baiter. The majority of the population are pretty disgusted by the expenses scandal, and the whinging by MPs when asked to pay back their overclaims won’t improve the public opinion of the political class. The British are a phlegmatic race, and with a few exceptions, don’t jump up and down in public about stuff like this, but listen to people chewing the fat as they go about their daily business and you’ll soon find out exactly what they think of all this. They really are not impressed.
their reactions. Learn english.
The people are underwhelmed by MPs expenses.
The MP’s expenses ‘scandal’ is a Rovian Swift Boat type vote suppression smear tactic that will not work.
The people will vote because the situation is grave and they and we are very anxious.
The people are sick of the rip off bankers and their milking the system and then kicking over the milk churn.
The people know that the Conservitudes are in bed with the bankers, thanks in no small way to no mojo ‘bojo’ Boris Johnson.
Well I’m not fascinated, or right wing.
Many people are pissed off by it all though.
They won’t be out in the streets with pitchforks, but it will make a difference in the way they vote.
Baiter … have you actually done any doorstepping to ask people?
Perhaps you should try the rounds with Lindsay. I know he’d avoid my house though!
The MP’s allowances ‘scandal’ is a giant smear and red herring.
The key thing is whether it succeeds in suppressing voting.
Because of the crisis the electorate are now more likely to vote.
From that point it’s a question of who the voters believe.
The Conservitudes being in bed with thieving bankers doesn’t help their cause.
A tiny minority of posters on this site realise that the tsunami is rolling in and it has next to nothing to do with claims for bath plugs which fascinate the dimwits on this site.
God is Truth is Love
These would be the same thieving bankers praised by Brown at the Mansion House for their ingenuity ?
The same bankers who had inadequate supervision due Brown’s changes to banking regualtion?
The same bankers Mandelson said he was relaxed about getting filty rich ?
The same thieving bankers the NuLab numpties used to bankroll PFI and where they hope to become non-execs or consultants?
Master Baiter – can you cast your mind back to the bailouts? Who was in power at the time? Who funnelled our grandchildren’s inheritance to the banks? Was it David Cameron?
clot
Grammar: ‘to be nuanced’ . This is not English. Slovenly.
Again ‘there’ where ‘their’ was probably intended. Double slovenly.
It need not be everyone, just enough brasve souls to provide an excuse for a few of the rest to join in and cover for the psychopaths who’ll find it fun as well.
There are many folk who would love to be able to afford buying things on expenses before claiming back the money that they would have spent had they had the spare money to spend in the first place before they didn’t have any left because it had been taken in taxes.
Name Witheld (sic): You are Professor Stanley Unwin and I claim my £5.
Anonymous @ 4:49
English, with a capital ‘E’. Learn English.
If everything was going along swimmingly, they might have just got away with it.
As it stands we await the real ‘Depression Tsunami’.
That is when the BoE can’t underwrite anymore bonds, the overseas market thinks that we are way too risky even at premium rates. And the IMF is two more sick countries away from being fundless itself.
I predict an economic meltdown of serious proportions, and the inability of Brown to pay all of his millions of staff. Or his former employees their pension.
What will he do? Raid the Private Pension Pots. That is when you get insurrection on a savage level. Blood on the streets. Bring the Army back now!!!
Very true in parts, interesting times….
now back to bath plugs…..
Not long until a much larger % of us are linked to food production, following the financial tsunami
There are historical precedents
I’ve just started to grow apples on my window sill
Brown’s solution would probably be soylent green
Fucking hell, we’re no closer to armed insurrection than we ever have been? Have you seen crowds baying in the street? Are you just about ready to flip?
We’re just on a blog, no rampages, revolutions or riots, Rambo, you’re just getting a premature erection based on the belief that the general public is as angry as you are.
They know it, we know it, most people are apathetic…
True but they will remember all of this at election time.Brown was insane to let this fester on.
Quote from the FT article “Some were moaning that there were clerical errors in Legg’s paperwork (eg dates were wrong), others that papers had been lost.”
Papers had been lost….. shredder working overtime again.
The claim is that Legg has lost the paperwork
whereas they wish they had
Pull the other one
I wish it was over.
Mr Fawkes, the question injuncted in the Guradian was asked in Parliament a few hours ago: Parliamentary proceedings injucted, Carter-Ruck in contempt? .
Thankyou, Swiss Bob
They just don’t learn do they? Well, let’s see a list of who wants to hang on to their money, the one’s standing down we can’t do much about but an internet campaign is in order for those that want to keep their money and their job.
It’s one or the other, not both.
I am glad I am not in the household insurance business. There must be a few MPs premiums that will need careful consideration in the next few years.
A lot can be done even to the retiring ones.
They can be tried in a court for fraud.
Retrospective legislation can be passed to deal with them…. of course that would require a clean up movement to be in place and in a position of power after the next election…. any takers for a new electoral movement?
I don’t think your name is one everyone would be happy rallying round
As opposed to our mate Balls?
Or Brown?
I’m thrusting behind you
Not sure I’m so keen on that idea.
sixty one million to be precise.
But who’s voting.
we’re not counting the under 5′s or over 90′s? They can’t carry a pitchfork.
Soak a granny in pitch and coax them into a trebuchet – incendiary OAPs have great shock value.
and if you did it to an MP, that would be grand
‘Ere, the Pitchfork is a bit 18th century int it? Even woodcarving has evolved to deploying chainsaws and 60Grade sandpaper
Chainsaws … MPs … a picture begins to emerge …
Nah. Too much ” elf and safety “
Me. I always vote.
I’ll be voting several times.
For Labour.
About 20 million…
Unless the 40 million pissed off non-voters realise that it is THEY who are the biggest and most powerful powerblock. We need those to vote independent!
where’s your website ? link please.
More like sixty four million of you count the all the illicit migrants.
MPs haven’t got a Legg to stand on.
MPs are in a Legg-over situation
The old expenses system is on its last Leggs
MPs can no longer use troughing to give them a Legg-up
We have started the next Legg of the troughing scandal
It’s not Legg itimate
Time to Legg it mate,
Backward short Legg?
Probably Fine Legg,
They’ll all just Legg it at the next GE.
Alleggedly.
Bowled a Legg wicket.
Foundless aLeggations!
(That should be “groundless”, of course)
Guido is a Leg end
The whole shebang is a Leggover situation-up.
They are all getting Legg in their face in Leggoland
Legg before wicket; HOWZAT?????????
Fucking delicious!
If I was them I would cough up for their ‘incidentals’before they have to pay for ‘flipping’
3 square meals a day – they get £5.56 tax free for each one, no questions asked
Nope – disagree…. no allowances at all, they are paid far too much already.
Sorry – my point was that Legg just seems to have re-written the guidelines for Cleaning and gardening – The £24k mortgage and £500 food allowance etc etcremain. Therefore if they are only being asked to cough up for cleaning/gardening costs over and above the new guidelines then they should.
The idea is surely that they have a house in their constituency and a second home in London to attend the HoC (Or vice versa). The second home needs only to be functional to allow them to carry out their duties. If they want to ponce about in a big house with a big garden rather than a reasonably sized one then they should pay for incremental costs.
Very good point – there is no need for a big house to allow them to go to Westminster. I think my point still stands though…. bugger the incrementals – I have to eat each day and noone pays for it regardless of where I am. They should be on the same regime. Likewise if I have a couple of houses I have to maintain the gardens. So should they. After all they are paid plenty in their basic salary already.
Stuff them all.
Some people get a food allowance if they are away from home on business, really because they’re away from their own larder and kitchen, but MPs with a second home have their own larder and kitchen, why do they need a food allowance.
Don’t forget the throbbing Balls, £300k pa courtesy of good old us, plus claiming a food allowance.
Scum.
Perhaps they think if both parties fight to hold onto their expenses together then the voters won’t know which party to punish.
I can see some independent anti-sleaze candidates doing very well at the next election. Hell, maybe they’ll even have an overall majority.
here is hoping. However the mainstream media will keep pushing the lie that ONLY the tories, or labour stand a cat in hell’s chance and a vote for anyone else is a wasted vote.
This is clearly bollocks.
We need to let the pissed off non-voters know that THEY ARE THE MAJORITY NOW!
It is these people who will decide who wins the next election. Either they stay at home and Cameron will most likely win, or they get off their asses and create the biggest peaceful revolution in this country’s history.
I would LOVE to see Cameron and Brown the evening after the next election trying to explain why the British people dumped both parties!!!
so shouldn’t you be out campaigning or have your own blog instead of wasting your time here?
Fucking good point Mr Ned, deserves an answer, in time
A lot more people, especially politicians and people interested in politics, read Gu1do than you could hope for on a start-up blog, so airing these views here may not be such a bad idea. Just think, tat could start a nihilist non-party.
I am far too busy processing and scrutinising a mountain of completed and submitted application forms for membership of the thick as thieves fan club to entertain such thoughts.
I just hope for your sake that your fucking subs are up to date mongrel.
eh?
Wot a boring twat. Not witty, or clever, or even interesting. All he has to offer is conceit. No wonder he has a fan club.
I am not here to entertain you, you cretin.
Come on!
They are all furious about the fact that his criteria are being applied retrospectively. “Why not just go back and decide that Germany won the 1966 World Cup?”
It would have been nice to know which MPs actually broke the rules.
Is good.
Never mind his so-called retrospection!
There is nothing retrospective about the following:
“The additional costs allowance (ACA) reimburses
Members of Parliament for expenses wholly,
exclusively and necessarily incurred when staying
overnight away from their main residence (referred to
below as their main home) *for the purpose of
performing Parliamentary duties*. This excludes
expenses that have been incurred for purely
personal or political purposes.”
It may be desirable to have a very pretty garden or an exceptionally clean flat but it adds no more to `for the purpose of performing Parliamentary duties` than would a fairly clean flat or a well kept garden would…
Sir Stuart Bellend, a serial troughing modern day Durham ‘Prince Bishop’; he was supposed to protect us against the Scots, wasn’t successful as he let the marauding Scotch labourites in to run this government.
Sir Stuart Bellend VD and Bar
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/the_daily_politics/8304887.stm
Oh yes that was so ‘live’ he clearly didn’t know the contents before opening it!
How strange to get an MP who appears cleaner than the rest to do this!
Lord Martin being sworn in – how beautiful!
Never since 1066 has anything proved more shameful.
Rotten to the core is Parliament
Makes a change. He’s usually getting sworn at these days.
What happened to his expenses? They’re keeping those very quiet. From trougher to lord. Some farce.
Liked the suit – dark grey with white chalk stripes.Very dapper.He even looked as if he had had an expensive haircut(on expenses no doubt).The ex-sheet metal worker looked more like a prosperous Doctor Cameron from Dr Finlay’s Casebook than a socialist “son of toil”
I hope he signed in…..would be a shame if he didn’t pick up his expenses……
proves how weak the leaders of each party actually are.
more independents required
5 nov coming up. effigy of our pric*k to be placed atop
Any MP who is considering putting himself/herself forward for re-election at the General Election will be a total idiot to have anything to do with getting involved in these shennanigans. The public is not sympathetic and several MPs who consider themselves in a”safe” seat will probably find actually they no longer are if they refuse to repay amounts requested.
So? Go on then mate.What are we going to do?
DC needs to organise a mass resignation of Conservative (and Lib Dem too if Nick Clegg has the balls) MPs to shame Gordon Brown into holding an election. This way the UK gets an election before the Lisbon Treaty is ratified by the Czechs and all is sweetness and light. Of course the flaw in my plan is that it relies on Gordon Brown having a sense of shame… damn, back to the drawing board.
Shame. I remember that word from somewhere…
I reckon Gordon would then just not hold an election – is there a legal requirement to do so in this case? – probably stating that this proves that he is right and that the cons/libdems have given up opposing him and this shows them to be giving him carte blanche to do whatever he wants.
HM Queen || can disolve parliament if Brown doesn’t command the support of the house. Anyway its on her website.
It also relies on C.M.D. having something vaguely resembling a backbone.
You didn’t think that one through very well at all, did you?
,
i think this parliament should be called the parliament of Wan@#rs
http://newslion.blogspot.com/
Surely the ‘Chump Parliament’
Hello Chumps!
Yep. Surely kids 100 years hence will learn of The Chump Parliament in history lessons, but sadly the true derivation of chump will be concealed… with a ‘strict injunction’.
Not ‘snoughts’ – ‘snouts’!
‘ . . 2. Contemptuously: The nose in man, esp. when large or badly shaped; the face or countenance.
. . 1508 KENNEDIE Flyting w. Dunbar 550 Out! out! I schout, apon that snowt that snevillis.
1548 UDALL, etc. Erasm. Par. Luke i. 26 The sturdie holders up of their snoute he hath cast downe.
1592 GREENE Upst. Courtier Wks. (Grosart) XI. 242 Betweene the filthy reumicast of his bloudshotten snowt, there appeared smale holes.
. . 1771 SMOLLETT Humph. Cl. (1815) 72 A young fellow,..when he first thrusts his snout into the world, is apt to be surprised at many things. 1’ [OED]
Did they scrap that programme where Portillo and co lived on benefits for a week. I say bring that back and let them do a programme like wife swap, where they swap jobs for a month…..
I think this may be a declaration of war, on the people.
I will say again. So? what are you going to do about it?
60 million of us-646 of them………………..
that was actually started by me!!!!!!!!!!
stuart bell-end……….
will anyone be so stupid to ever vote for him again?
a total fucking hoon……..
now where is the guy that started that/ it was and is still so funny!!!!!
sums up geoff and his chum(p)s entirely
But the Labour bastards know that the thick northern wankers will still vote for them.
Not if we’ve moved South
‘will anyone be so stupid…’
He represents Middlesborough. Niff said. Welcome back Stuart.
“Middlesbrough”
1922 Committee, that’s the Conservitudes backbenchers union isn’t it. Hardly any members for years because there have been so few Conservitudes in the House.
Sounds like the PLP as of next year!
They’ll be holding their meetings in a phone box.
It’s members are mainly the “old squirearchy” of “Duck House” and “Moats” fame. It’s power is greatly diminished under the Federation of the “Cameroon Meritocracy”
Jim Pickard is now saying the meeting won’t happen, if it ever was:
“Despite a groundswell of enthusiasm among the Labour ranks for this meeting I’m told that Tony Lloyd, chair of the PLP, has put a kibbosh on it. “The prospect of a joint action…it’s just not going to happen,” says my (more authoratative) source.”
Does sinita know about this?
Repay then bolt on a 10x fine, make brown pay £120,000
Gentlemen, I am of the opinion the Palace of Westminster would be greatly improved with a visit from a Mujahideen suicide truck bomber as shown in this clip:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=99f_1254768950
In this attack the heroic martyr is blowing up trailer trash terrorists from Texas, but you can see my point innit.
Our MP’s are at least as loathsome and odious as the dregs of humanity the Washington warlords send to slaughter poor people in Iraq and Afghanistan, so it follows a truck bombing is entirely appropriate.
And I am unanimous in that
Don’t damage the building with a bomb! It’s just the political vermin infesting it that needs to be eliminated. How about nerve gas, or poison in their subsidised food and booze? Of course, executing them outside the Palace of Westminster would be cheaper. Even just locking them in stocks lining the streets and letting the public vent their displeasure on their foul carcasses would be a better idea.
Bill Etherington .Labour. Sunderland North is saying he will not pay the money back the Sir Thomas Legg is demanding.
Ha! So is gordon now going to withdraw the whip, as he said he would, so that etherington cannot stand at the next GE as a Labour candidate?
Bet gordon will dither if Etherington is one of those northern MP’s who have a large majority, a safe seat and who might carry his rebellion into standing as an Independent so losing the seat to Labour, just at a time when labour are going to lose loads of their less safe seats.
Poor gordon caught between a rock and a hard place.
Any MP who doesn’t pay back will probably not get voted back in, except the Liebour fuckers who probably will as Liebour voters are dozy fucking hunts who’d vote for a paedophile in a red rosette.
he’ll refer it to an independent committee staffed with experts Zzzzzzz……..
Etherington is not standing again.
could you arrange the same for Jacqui Smith ?
Well that’s a relief I’ve just seen him on TV –
I was having nightmares thinking that the International Press were going to pick it up and broadcast it across the world, saying look this is what the average, illiterate, uneducated, troughing, British MP looks like.
He would have made us more of a laughing stock than we are already.
Brown is like weak tea.
Pleasant and not bitter
Just right when introducing young children to the national beverage.
There’s no way the Mackem dole bandits would vote for any party other than Labour.They would vote for a monkey with a red rosette. Or is that Hartlepool?
Precisely. The mackems did not vote for Etherington they voted for Labour. This is a perfect constituency to land in one of the young public school educated fresh-out-of Oxford dynastic socialists that seem to be hawked around every available seat.
Geordie Boy you know fine well the monkey hangers aka codheads are Hartlepool. These nutters voted in a shandy drinking southern pooftah for no other reason than he was Labour.
You’re spot on. And as long as they think that the state will provide them with handouts to finance a “life” of beer, brats,tabs and the X factor they’ll continue to vote Labour. In fact along with immigrants they are its core support.
Good spot for mandy to re-launch his career as an mp/Labour Leader then.
There’s a solution, which may become acceptable as national bankruptcy looms closer. Don’t allow those on benefits, or state employees other than the armed services, to vote
Possibly. If there is to be any change it will start in Newcastle. Labour has already lost the council (after being in charge for 30 years) and the only reason two of the Newcastle MPs are standing down is that they would have been kicked out anyway. Unfortunately the local Tory organisation is useless and unable to capitalise on Labour’s demise. Votes go to the Libdems by default.
Yep,twice…..safe seat for young Mr Wright here then…..till he comes knocking at my door….
Spot on Guido. I wonder how many people have lost their jobs today whilst this fucking scum and vermin hassle over a few quid the bastards ripped off in the first place.
And why are the fucking plods taking so long to arrest a few of these bastards? They couldn’t wait to drag Damien Green off.
What sickens me is how the BBC (and Sky) are sticking up for these Huntzee, perhaps they are frightened a few of THEM might appear on the expense bills?
ONLY the bloggers have been all over this.
Absolutely O’Bama they should all be made to read the blogs on Order=Order
The only reason I can think of why the MSM is being soft on these thieving toerags is that they need talking heads to come in and burn off some time between the hourly news bulletins, discussion on rising crime and items on obscene looking vegetables.
G U I D O…….. Help….. serious stuff!
Guinness will be the first under attack.
If alcohol were invented today, it would be classified as a drug and restricted, according to Professor David Nutt, a government adviser who chairs the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs.
He compares its effects to a range of other drugs, including prescription-only and illegal drugs such as heroin.
Professor David Nutt, a government adviser
Nutt? a government advisor? You just have to be kidding…
The name of the Senior Investment Services Manager for HSBC is Nick Cashmore…
Yep, the Neo-Puritans are targeting Alcohol after their success stopping people enjoying smoking.
but you are a prohibitionist antisocialcitizen and yet here you are moaning about the prohibition of smoking inside.
your views just don’t add up.
you fake-ass mothefucker.
I’m not a prohibitionist.
You making shit up again you loon?
Jeez. Who didn’t see that one coming?
This November the 5th people will be wishing Guy Fawkes was around.
But nowadays, he’d be called a fundamentalist.
I’d call him “Hero”
I certainly wouldn’t call him a Tory. Only the hooniest chump would think that.
Parasites. Tics that suck on the blood, sweat and tears of the sheeple
Fucking MPs have had 4 months off. Why didn’t they NOT have their holiday and stay at Westminster and sort this out once and for all? These fucking kuiintzee only have themselves to blame.
They are being picked up for NOT BEING REASONABLE with their expenses. These fuckers must have known that trying to claim £18000 for three bookcases wasn’t “reasonable”.
And why can’t they cut their own grass? Soldiers who go to Afghanistan for 6 months are STILL expected to keep the gardens of their houses tidy, so their wives have to do it or get someone to help. No gardeners on expenses there.
I would suggest that the PLP annd the 1922 ctte.have a look at what is being blogged on this site as it indicative of the level of anger that has percolated throughout Britain.
The party leaders have lost control, time for a bit of discipline or as FU would say “put a bit of stick about”.
The game is up troughers pay up ,shut up, or ship out now and let us get on with climbing out of the shite.
Aye Aye Captain
Its birds eye to you!
A one eyed bird? that sounds familiar.
My bird is the pretty one. You get the aforementioned one-eyed bird. Did you see her soliciting someone in a passing car in the Steve Bell’s cartoon today? Unmissable!
The names of all these troughing tossers who are conspiring to overturn Legg’s adjudications or to undermine him in any way must be published and re-published and published again. Lest any voter forgets.
Yeah ungrateful bastards
If they have anything between the ears they had better give in to Legg’s demands.
Interesting that all the whingers are hiding from the cameras. Come on you fucking bastards show your faces.
They’ll be in some committeee room banging their desk-tops in protest, in unison. Juvenile half-grown hoons that they are…
These bastards just don’t get it, do they?
No they are stupid Huntz. All they’ve done is moan about retrospective action, yet these wankers have introduced plenty of taxes that are retrospective.
Now that is a very good point indeed! I’m sick of the BS we get from these people. At what point does it get to be too much? Most of the problems appear to be coming from the *clears throat* ‘people’s party’… yeah right! They’ve all done wonderfully well out of us, just so depressing!
Retrospective, they’ve never heard of the Inland Revenue and it’s “restrospective” abilities then.
Oh they have someone managed to bypass the BBC droids this morning on the Vicki Derbyshire show and put that very point to some fucking MP. He couldn’t reply.
But notice none of the MSM will ask any MP that same question, not fucking one.
Yep, you’re right. I thought that earlier when I was watching one of the news broadcasts and Anne was bemoaning… we get hammered left right and bloody centre by taxation. Did they forget that other little gimmick they were bringing in… what was it? Lots of taxes for older cars?
Yes spot on, the thieving bastards were quite happy to tax old cars more and road pricing on roads we’ve already paid for and the Dartford crossing which was supposed to be free after it was paid for.
How deep is your trough?
Forward this to the PLP & 1922 ctte, Bastards
Thieving troughists of all parties are invited to a meeting tonight at the home of Sir Fred Goodwin.
The subject of the meeting is: Why don’t the suckers like us any more?
Travel expenses or a second home for the evening can be applied for as usual.
Its simple.
Any MP who refuses to pay and is standing for re-election, with whatever majority, will lose their seat.
Some non standing troughers will resist.
Troughers who have escaped a Legg demand letter but who are clearly guilty of theft will lose their seat. Prime example is Piggy Smith who calculates that she will lose anyway whether or not she repays her immoral earnings.
Its all in the arithmetic.
No it’s all in the “General Election”.
Not so fast. I keep having to point out that the retards of Salford had a vote just after the flippin chipmunk got caught red handed, and they voted her back in.
They probably thought they were voting for her to go on “Strictly” as Anton du Beke’s new partner – “Cor ain’t you bloody short ! You’re like a midget you are !” This as “Brucie” was quick to point out was in jest and she should have a sense of humour after all she was a member of Brown’s Cabinet and she didn’t have to help Caroline serve the tea and biscuits.
Yep… that’s the sadness of party loyalty or some folks actually believing politicians and their lies. They keep voting Labour, or whatever party no matter what. Frankly I’d rather have a republic of Keynsham than the greedy sods that get elected.
The people of Salford did not have a Vote, it was a closed meeting, in which, the PLP voted for her. The people of Salford do not want her there, but, they do not have any recourse, nor, did they have any vote. She has seriously upset the so called “working class” people of Salford. Also Salford is now a Labour marinal seat. So do me a favour, and get your facts right.
I think it was the local party that kept her on was it not?
Yes, not the people, it was a closed vote.
Sincere apologies – wouldn’t have used that term if I’d known that, but, well thats how it looked if you see what I mean. If that is the case its an even bigger bummer – imagine how bad it must feel having someone forced upon you without you having a say when you know the feeling on the street it to ditch them. Err, hang on…
Gordons Gestapo are watching you all.
They are building a very big Gulag in Docklands. And you thought it was for the Olympics?
Bwaaah HHHaaaaaaaaaa HHHHHaaaaaaaaa
A century ago they (criminals) were sent to Australia, no chance of that now, they wouldn’t want any of them.
Yeah, but they do have many Islands off their coast for holding illegals
If anyone is contemplating emigrating to Australia & is in urgent need of a criminal record ..
My 82 yr old Mum has a Des O’Connor LP, I feel sure I could talk her out of ..
Get your coat captain
It’s true. I’ve recently applied for a work visa out there and they needed to check me for criminal records. Fucking cheek.
Legg certainly “legged it” when approached by Sky reporter today, he quickly ran back into his offices. This whole episode of expenses shows Brown’s weakness as a leader. Brown couldn’t herd sheep!
Bet he could shag them though.
I gave this matter some thought this afternoon.
On the one hand we hope that these law makers (e.g. House of Commons & the House of Lords)* make fair and good laws for us all (which includes them). This means that the laws that they vote in** are laws from a certain day hence and not retrospective.
However in this expense gate matter many people including David Cameroon seem to think it fair that the rules/laws on MPs expense claims can be retrospectively applied. We wouldn’t want them to do the same to us, so we shouldn’t let them do this to themselves!
* Both houses have been subverted by executive orders by Ministers of the Crown who can introduce new laws without recourse to Parliament
** Both houses have now also been subverted by the Supreme Court which opened for business at the Middlesex Guildhall in Parliament Square in September 2009. It replaces the House of Lords as the highest judicial appellate body in the land. Many think that this is a huge constitutional disaster in the making.
Methinks you is wrong Sir (says Dobbie)
The Honourable Member self certificated their claims and got paid, so they thought they would try again. If Sir, you refer to the Green Book, you will see that MP’s have to satisfy themselves thet they complied with the rules both in spirit and truth.
Duck houses etc.?
Dear House Elf
You clearly do not understand what is happening in regards to this matter.
For example: maximum limits for gardening costs are now trying to be retrospectively applied.
In any event, as my previous posting explained, both the House of Commons and the House of the Lords have no real authority now for laws in the UK and this is even before the Lisbon Treaty is fully ratified.
The UK is no democratic democracy. It is a constitutional monarchy and a plaything of the unelected elite.
Actually, had these people been true to the meaning of the rules this would not be in debate at all. In my view they have no right to claim for cleaners. Those that work hard, long hours still have to do our own cleaning and gardening.
There were no limits set for massage services, does that mean they were entitled to 10k a year worth of massages?
The only way out is Revolt. Open, bloody and concerted.
CMD (if he gets elected) has a chance to show us all he has a pair of big brass balls by announcing that we wont be bound by the terms of a treaty that the people of this country didnt get a chance to vote on.
After all, its OUR country, not politicians like brown and Minibrain who did all the signing off.
So there we have it, Dave has a chance, if he fluffs it then the way forward is clear- revolution.
No one in Britain should be ruled by brussells and absolutely no way in hell should a war criminal be at the head of it all.
I for one am sharpening my pitchfork…in the nude.
and we, the electorate, have never been asked what we think
There is a BIG difference between the rules that they misinterpreted in order to trough themselves silly, and the laws that they legislate upon.
The rules have NOT changed. The same rules that they claimed under are still in place, the difference is, with public accountability, they cannot interpret them so loosely that they can claim almost anything against expenses.
The rules have not been retrospectively changed. The rules were very clear before, but they were completely ignored.
Mr Ned
You also do not understand matters here.
Your reply is pure rubbish.
Time will prove me correct and MPs will “rebel” against the payment requests.
Get back in your dungeon Peter
…and we Dear Boy will be rebelling (avec pitch forks) against useless bloody MP’s who you accept have no bloody function anyway.
I think the retrospective limits were introduced to make some people say “thats not right, you can’t do that to anyone”. However, the sheeple are now so pissed with the political elite to the extent that no sympathy would be forthcoming even if they were told to repay all their expenses and salaries, and then go and cut off their own balls/whatever with a blunt and rusty hacksaw. Unfortunately Leggs & Co simply don’t get it.
The trouble is the disgrace they’ve brought upon themselves is making news around the world in Canada, America, Australia, India and China.
We’re being portrayed as some sort of shifty third world banana republic. MP’s should be ashamed of themselves to have so brought the country into disrepute.
Not only but also, Brown’s shedding the assets is doing wonders for the pound worldwide!
Why should any of them worry?
They’re probably all putting their feelers out in the private sector to make sure they have nice well-paid jobs to go to when they all step down next year.
In the meantime, the trough is still very much open for business.
we are a shifty third world republic in case you hadn’t noticed.
NuSlaver has TURNED this Country into a third world banana republic. It took twelve years….
‘Socialism is a great idea until you run out of other people’s money’
Absolutely right!
True,true,true.
Cool Britannia is now Drool Britannia
Well done Parliament.
A nation’s reputation,,, the object of glee….. all because of a bunch of greedy, incompetent, self-serving troughers
Truly the end of our window in world history, socialist fuckers
I disagree it is not the end. The next election we have a choice. Go knocking on doors.
I’m not holding my breath. MP’s will either get off scot-free, or pay very little in the way of remuneration for the years and years of troughing, at the taxpayer’s expense.
They all deserve to die a very nasty death.
They will get off scot free if we allow it without a whimper.
Thats what theyre counting on, public lethargy.
Put some more braindumbing “X” factor, arsenders or “corrie” on for the thick fuckwits who think the real world is composed of simon cowhead and co.
Until people wake up and are prepared to put themselves out and take it to these pigs, we will never be bloody free of their pernicious influences.
We dont really need “politicians” with “left right or centre” ideologies, we just need a system that runs with the sole aims of serving the people and only the people for their greater good.
Mother of all parliaments? What a fucking sick joke. The model by which all others shall be judged….ha ha ha……unbelieveable.
We dont really need “politicians” with “left right or centre” ideologies, we just need a system that runs with the sole aims of serving the people and only the people for their greater good.
Yep. That’s what we want.
Not some over-arching ‘philosophy’ or any shit like that. Just doing the right thing. It’s actually very simple. And it means you can sleep at night.
And we are surprised about this why? Our society is a complete and utter joke. The alright-Jack brigade just do whatever they can to prove it with their greed and endless raids on our taxes… apparently they pay taxes too… unless they have some accountants to assist or are a Tory contributor with a huge bank balance! Sickening, when are these leeches going to learn?
People had some guts in the old days. They marched on Downing Street over the poll tax……what now! this is worse.
If I thought for one minute that we could actually march on Downing Street, I would be the first in the queue.
Blair decided that demonstrations shouldn’t be allowed within half a mile (I think) of the place, so they wouldn’t see us anyway.
Probably just as well – there are several people on here, including myself, who would not be able to restrain themselves!
What about all the other demonstrators that have been allowed recently. It a simple matter of telling Brown to go.
Just go? How polite.
Its not a question of them allowing it. How very gracious of them to grant us our rights.
This is OUR country, not theirs!
Who are they to tell us what we can and cannot do in respect of protesting?
Are we really going to allow a bunch of self serving, thieving, corrupt, hypocritical, doubletalking shitpricks to dictate terms to us?
You are not allowed to get within 1 mile of Downing St unless you are alone,let alone with a placard.
Bastards!
I am bewildered at the lack of public demonstration to some of this governments actions.
Is it not some sort of archaic offence to march on Parliament? I am sure I heard this somewhere?
Didn’t see you come and listen to my excellent speech denouncing the march to war in February 2003.
Saw over a million others in Hyde Park, the biggest demonstration, ever.
That was the free concert to see Bono perform, George ol’ son.
Bounders
CHUMPS and CLINTS
Can we bomb them yet Guido?
Please :0)
Is it just me or do we as the tax payer own those assets? Is it not time we as a nation were consulted, because it seems to me all we’ve done is pay to elect these monsters and then bent over to get fecked for our sins! At some point, someone honest has got to step forward and sort this mess out! I would volunteer, but as a depressive I find it really hard to get out of bed some days and this lot just make it worse!
Tally-Ho will put his foot down for sure, just like he slapped one of his MP’s wrists when he laughed at the public after his troughing was exposed because “he had a very big house”. Yup, that sure showed him. If I lived in his constituency I’d be proud to have him represent me.
I think it’s all gone a bit past that now.
Cameron knows that if he doesn’t take serious action against the MP’s from his party who flagrantly broke the Rules, his chances of winning the next election will be reduced considerably.
It’s not rocket science.
No, just projectile vomitting.
Vote Conservative – get Blue Labour.
Vote Labour – get Brown
or, vote SLaver and get totally fucked all over again.
Vote UKIP – get Brown
Just VOTE TORY !!
Well said
Well said my man.
Oh bloody hell.
you tories sound fucking desperate.
At least vote for a party with policy. Voting independent is like writing a blank cheque, innit.
don’t talk daft phyllis you silly old tart.
you are a torydalek that runs on a computer programme uploaded hourly from toryHQ. we will get no sense on the subject of democracy from you, you fucking retard.
note to reader: fuck morons like phyllis right up the arse(no vaseline)
VOTE INDEPENDENT
All you keyboard revolutionaries predicting insurrection should get real. The evidence after the initial exposure of the expenses scandal was that the majority of the voting public have short memories. Indeed many of those here screaming for blood,quickly reverted back to singing conservative praises. The next election may bring a change of government,but not a change of attitude.
Just a reminder.
Norwich North By Election.
C Smith: Thieving bastard Conservative Party. 13,591
C Ostrowski: Thieving bastard Labour Party. 6,243
A Pond: Thieving bastard Lib Dem Party. 4,803
71.2% of the votes cast
Such a nice looking girl Chloe! to be dumped among this trash yesterday.
Actually whatever happened matters not a jot! What is the point of voting for any of them? We never seem to get a representative that actually stands up for his or her constituents… never asks how we want them to vote on big issues.
The expenses showed us that all of them are a joke. Vote Labour, get bankrupt and screwed by Gordo and his big bank love or vote Conservative and give them ten years to screw something up. Either way we’re fecked!
A new politics is needed, you can’t deny that.
I’ll say it again this is only the tip of the iceberg. These expenses are only what can be traced back to the fiddling Dishonorables and Gay Lords of Westminster. How much cash in untraceable pound notes has been passed under the club tables in brown envelopes from those who want little favours done by our Lords and Master Perpetrators of these crimes? And it’s been going on a long time. You don’t buy Morning Cloud yachts and run them on a PM’s pay.
These idiots haven’t a clue about the modern technical age and how blogs work. They will bury their fat heads in the sand and bitch and whine but we have seen through their dirty games. They are finished it just remains to get them out. As other bloggers have said when the election finally does come they will get such a load of stick at peoples doors they will just capitulate and retire to spend more time with their family. Let’s just hope that their families despise them as much as we do.
Blogs like Guido’s have given us a say and it is becoming real power so eventually these sponging MP’s will have to play an honest game or go. Cameron knows that now and Brown is following his lead like a moody Rottweiler with sore nuts. This lot will soon be condemned to the dustbin and I hope they rot in hell.
That’s another reason why Gordon wants to control the internet.
It’s the ony way we can communicate with lots of other people, quickly.
Greed
Since all MP’s purport to be “Honourable Members”, and I am sure it must have been something worthy, but what did Sir Stuart Bell get his “K” for??
Does it have to be anything important?
I thought getting a peerage or knighthood was a given these
days.
Chump?
Of less cudos than a Blue Peter badge, no a Christmas Cracker.
What beats me is how these creatures can live with themselves having been caught red handed with their fingers in our till and for literally all the world to see.
If I were trougher in chief Piggy Smith I would be resigning and repaying just as fast as I could to try and salvage something. This thing will haunt her and others like her for a lifetime.
Yes .. but you obviously possess that rapidly disappearing trait once known as “Decency” .. they don’t .. that’s the difference ..
Useless, lowlife parasites. Only thing they really care about is topping up their bank accounts
“60 million of us,646 of them”
And who puts them there?
A very good point.
To be accurate, it’s the stupid electoral system. Where I am you could not unseat the Tory if you got a 50% swing. His arse is on velvet.
Most seats are fairly safe, so most MP’s only need to pay lip service to the public whilst concentrating on self-enrichment. Democracy is a sham.
Then its clear- dont play the game. Dont vote for any of them.
John Mann is an honest MP who hasn’t had to pay back a penny and lives frugally in a shared flat.
He’s one of a vanishingly small number.
Surely someone can publish a list so that we can then vote for them, REGARDLESS OF PARTY.
If your candidate is the standard troughist, write your feelings on your ballot paper and therfore spoil it. (Don’t be libellous though!)
One of the saddest things about the fiasco is that decent people of all types and from all backgrounds will not even consider being an MP because of the rightful opprobrium aka shit being rightfully shovelled at this lot.
Er….£110, oh no, he did not do it!!!! What a joke!
Scam Scam Scam.
They should be paying back their Flipping Mortgage dodges
SCAM SCAM SCAM
Cleaning bills are just a token repayment to try and avoid paying back the big frauds.
SCAM SCAM SCAM
Didn’t he have some “siring” issues in 1984?
supposed to be a reply to 223
Can I bum Brown for a fiver?
I think he’d probably give you a tenner if you asked him nicely.
would that be a fiver + VAT? or is a bum exempt?
The Daily Mash correctly reports that everything is for sale HERE. I think McDoom wants a bit more than a fiver though; start bidding at say £8 I think. VAT would likely apply if you considered he was doing you a “service” and if he’s done it enough times this tax year to reach the VAT threshold. Different if by this transaction you consider that you “owned” his arse outright. It’s a complicated world.
Can I burn Brown for a fiver?
Depends. If you burn Brown permanently that would be good. If he survives that would be bad. In the latter scenario you would be doing the UK a bigger favour if you just burn the fiver. Lots of them.
Hettie Hardbint just said live on Sky news for the HofC that as a London MP she is not involved in Leggs review as he is only looking at 2nd home allowances and when challenged if she had a problem with any expenses said NO as she only has one home in London which she pays for herself and not involeve in Leggs review.
I can see a number of immeadiate inconsistencies in her statements which bear closer scrutiny
Now being challenged on the 2nd home comment. Shes hiding something I tell you now she’s hiding something.
She won’t answer the fucking question. Will labour withdraw theb party whip from non payers, she just w answer it.
She doesn’t claim for gardening. You should see her front bushes!
Sick, sick fellow.
Seriously though, we’ve got to find a way to persuade our fellow citizens not to vote for any of them but to go to the polling station and write ‘None of the bastards’ on the ballot paper. Voting for a crook other than the one already in is useless.
You won’t.
Make sure the “T” doesn’t appear within a box or they’ll be arguing it aint spoilt but a misshapen “X” and a vote for them!
They subject us to retrospective tax legislation. So as far as I am concerned they can stuff off whining that the allowances set by Legg are retrospective.
And the conclusions reached by Legg are in no way retrospective. The rules have always been clear: claims must be above reproach, and must not give rise to an impression of an unfair gain.
If MPs didn’t understand what that means in practice, they have only themselves to blame.
Peter summink of Exeter /\ reckons I am wrong on this.
Don’t forget to froth and foam, dimwits
Smallest repayment so far. Ed Balls (Lab, Normanton) and Yvette Cooper (Lab, Pontefract), a married couple, are to repay £13.50 each because of a “miscalculation” of interest claims on their joint mortgage in 2006/07.
It’s OK MB Gordon’s £12,500 makes up for it.
They are so clean MB !
Just other thieves in other words…
Like the rest of your New Zanu Labour traitors and scum…
Absolutely right, MB, because they were previously let off all of THIS of course.
Thanks for reminding us about your “golden couple”. It makes you proud, no doubt…ah go on, you are a little bit doubtful aren’t you?
The whole Balls-Cooper thing is a joke… so I truly enjoyed her getting slam dunked even if ever so briefly by Mr Hislop.
Glad you hold them in such highregard:
The Cabinet’s golden couple claimed more than £300,000 in expenses in the last financial year, including £30,000 for the cost of their “second home”, official figures have revealed.
The six-figure expenses bill was racked up by Ed Balls, the Children’s Secretary and his wife, the Housing Minister Yvette Cooper.
Despite typically spending the working week in London, the couple are able legitimately to claim that their “main home” is in Mr Balls’s constituency of Normanton in Yorkshire.
Mr Balls, who is regarded as the Prime Minister’s closest colleague, is the top claimer of taxpayer-funded expenses in the Cabinet, picking up a total of £157,076 in the 2006-07 financial year.
As I mentioned earlier! The Balls claim that their entire family shifts around the country en-masse to justify the multiple addresses scam and tie in with HoC sittings, schools, holidays etc. Anyone fancy tailing them 24/7 so we can be sure this actually occurs? Anyway fully let off and even if ever found as guilty as Jacqui another time an apology will sort it; precedent set.
A decent QC would have them tied up in knots and pleading for mercy very quickly.
You mean the sherry?
I’m sure these two bozos will deduct the cost of two postage stamps if they condescend to repay their 27 quid.
Poetic justice for one former home secratary I guess?
..Bet she wished she had not claimed for that mud juccuzzi now!
The seem genuinely resentful that we want our money back. Their sense of entitlement is such that they really can’t believe it! Cant imagine a more unconvincing person to put their case across than Stuart Bell, a political hack who whinges on their behalf like a spoilt child.
try Lord Foulkes.
I eally can’t wait till he’s on TV when the HoL get their turn.
Just look at Julie Kirkbride and all she`s taken. What trivial amount is to be paid back. The whole thing is a sick joke and an insult to us all.
I wish the BBC and other media outlets would stop perpetuating this fallacy that the MPs acted within the rules. The rules are clear: expenses must be exclusively for parliamentary business. Just because the standards committee gave them the all-clear doesn’t mean they were within the rules, it just means the standards committee wasn’t doing its job. MPs knew what the rules were, and they knew what the committee would allow. The two things were not the same.
And if Cameron had any real balls he’d remove the whip, not just deselect.
Good point.
We also have to question a system whereby the people claiming the expenses can make the Rules.
What other business would tolerate such a lavish expenses scheme?
Bankers
Entirely on public public funds?
And look at Andre MacKay – the sums are enormous. Never mind the ridiculous Sir Stuart Bell, Dave, focus on the actual and real issues in all this.
And what about their office expenses Guido
A whole new section of expenses to investigate not covered by Legg
Actually, what is covered by Legg? Is he only looking at the second home allowances?
My own MP lives in London and so hasn’t claimed for a second home. However, when I had a look at her expenses, it looked very much like she’d been claiming for party political activities under her “communications” expenses. I’d like to think that if they were indeed party political (which I’m pretty sure is against the rules) then she’s going to be held to account for it. Will I be disappointed?
There’s a second investigation on other stuff, reporting in December I think. It was all a part of the “extremely well thought through” McDoom response to this scandal ie instigate a rolling car crash over the course of a number of months. The man is inept as demonstrated by everything he touches.
Actually McDoom is fantastic in one respect…
No one in the history of the modern world has been able to create a series of rolling car crashes all at the same time…
This needs exceptional talent…
and is clear proof he should be in the loony bin….
He does have an exceptional talent for fooling people. At first.
The whole country should boycott the products and/or services of any private business that employs any of these thieving liars after the next ge. Let’s drive these bastards into the gutter.
Why don’t Guido and his pathetic Right-wing sycophants pick on the true pigs, i.e. the Old Etonian Toryboy troughing toffs who expect the taxpayers to pay for their moats and stately homes to be cleaned?
Reducing MPs’ salaries would leave their profession open only to rich public-school Toryboys like Cameron and Osbourne.
Let’s face it, MPs do a noble and demanding job running this country, keeping us safe and helping us together build a better Britain that our children can be proud of. Gordon Brown is committed to taking the long-term decisions necessary to help us go forward as a nation, and is working through great physical hardship and self-sacrifice to achieve this.
Why don’t you start being patriotic and get behind Gordon Brown for once.
Why don’t you start being patriotic and get behind Gordon Brown for once.
With a meat cleaver, chain saw or sharp instrument of choice.
Why don’t you post your name and address here.
Your comment is probably illegal and beyond the limits of free speech.
You don’t get to place limits on free speech you nasty little labour fascist
Don’t tell the fascist your name, Pike!
Fabian: Dostoevsky once coined the phrase ‘tongue in the mirror’.
Jung later expressed a similar reality when he talked about ‘the imagination for evil’. We may all see the perfect need to ‘love thy neighbour’, but inwardly that mirrored tongue just can’t help imagining something different – envy, hatred – that little chuckle at another’s misfortune.
Now you may not have this reality of mind, fine by me, but just to be clear, such perfection is usually ascribed only to the likes of a Christ.
For the rest of us, it might be better, healthier in fact, to be a little more realistic. It’s only through realism that we become creatively human.
Legislate all you like for another’s speech. But the mind will still offer that reflection. Only the most dissociated person could not admit to this (Blair, Brown etc.). They just can’t admit to the living reality of that ‘evil imagination’ – worthy, perhaps, but not healthy. Sums up Labour’s demise I think.
Yeah, and it applies both ways, I realise that (left and right). But not everyone here is the right wing sycophant you expect.
why don’t you fuck off nazi?
not you kraft, that wanker fabian.
what a fucking fascist that c’unt is innit.
Er, is it time for your medication yet?
It is the right thing to do…for all the hard working Britons….it started in America….there will be no cuts…..0% increase……
Fabian, you are so right, why didn’t I see this before! I would be delighted to get behind Gordon Brown. How soon can you get him to Beachy Head?
Because you should be down the pits and in the Factories and not running the Country, Education is a dangerous thing in the wrong hands. Oh lets think, why has Parliament been brought down to your level, because basically, you latched on to making money. Look at you, all bigged up in the Lords, amazing isnt it, you wanted we had worked for and what we gave to this Country, and hey, straight of our backs! Go screw yourself, your working class piece of shit!! From a Toff with hugs xxx
There are NO fabian solutions
There are Final Solutions for you enemies of the Party blah blah ….
To Fabian Solutions. How dare you talk to us about patriotism.It is your government of TREACHEROUS feminazis and new man nonces that have sold our nation down the river. you spend your entire time rubbishing our country’s traditions valuesa and history and think up new ways to impose discrimination against the White male population. But at the same time you are relying on those same white men to fight your pointless wars for women’s rights in Iraq and Afghanistan.Like all feminists you are a coward hiding behind the men of our nation to protect you from Islamic nazis. You are scum of the first order and if there was any justice you ,harridan Harmsmen and all the other useless cowardly bitches would be deported to Afghanistan and handed over to the Taliban. Then you really would know what oppression felt like. Now fuck off you labia whore!!!!
Yvette Cooper MP, Labour’s Work and Pensions Secretary, responding to the Conservative plans announced today said:
“This is a carefully packaged con. The Tories still want to make cuts in a recession that would destroy jobs and, according to respected economists, would actually push unemployment up to 5 million.
“They are simply rehashing Labour policies without the investment needed to make them work.
“The Tories don’t understand that you can’t get people from welfare into work if you destroy the jobs for them to go to.”
Stupid bint.
Misogynistic sexist pig.
I suppose it makes you uncomfortable to see women in positions of power, able to boss men like you around after centuries of oppression?
Get used to it pal.
Oh right, all these women should be recognised for their valuable contribution to the nation and politics. It is a shame that Harriet forgot to mention Maggie Thatcher when she drew up her list of women politicians. But then that was her ‘socialist’ version of history. Pass the airbush Hattie!
Yuch. If there’s on thing worse than a socialist it[s a socialist woman. And fabians – they were a little eugenicist fascist group weren’t they? How do you reconcile all that eugenicism with the idea of Fabians being “nice”? Odious, earnest, fanatical fucking nazis. Blow it out your arse, labour girl.
That’ll get rid of him for a while! (Until he’s looked up `eugenist`…)
The Nazis were keen on the Fabians. HG Wells presented copies of Fabian writings to Hitler on one of his visits Wells said. “I am asking for a Liberal Fascisti.” It was also to Communism that “we shall have to turn—we outsiders, that is, the young people with foresight for enlightened Nazis; I am proposing that you consider the formation for a greater Communist Party; a western response to Russia.
A Fabian Socialist illuminatus
They Fabians also had a cracking line on Eugenics.
Also shows the connection between National Socialism and State Socialist ideologies. Fabians saw Nazism as an advanced socialism with plenty to offer.
Yup, fascism and the left are comfortable bedfellows.
Nasty bunch, fabians.
Didn’t that Ozzy chap, Kevin Rudd(?) have to apologise for the fabian-driven eugenics policies of previous Australian administrations?
Is she a woman?
You really don’t get it do you? These women are not in positions of power but positions of responsibility. They are there to do what we the people (men and women) tell them to do. If a woman wants to tell me what to do there has to be a quid pro quo. i.e. she has to employ me and pay me.A female M.P. or a male M.P. are the servants of the people not their masters or mistresses. To back this up I will quote the NEW MAN NONCE himself. Bliar said” The people are the masters.We are the sefrvants of the people. We must never forget that.” It seems that ZaNulabia did forget that and that is why they are so hated.
err … Balls-Crapper is female?
Fooled me.
To fabian solutions: You try and boss me around and I will make you cry real tears and I won’t even need to raise a hand. I will just use reason and logic. Your poor little feminazi brain will simply implode when you realise that you are a fat nasty useless hypocritical piece of control freak scum. Now fuck off! This site is for patriots and lovers of liberty not evil control freak whores like you!!!
there are definitely NO fabian solutions
give me a big enough blender…
There is one and it is FINAL
It is the right thing to do…for all the hard working Britons….it started in America….there will be no cuts…..0% increase……
Their are lots of excellant women managers,but she is definatly not one of them,she’s all mouth and is a Liebour bot or clone.
Unemployment is already at 6 million, because of the lying stupidity of corrupt and incompetent Labour polticians.
What a shame Cooper-girl is as void of ideas as everyone else. Frankly I find her objectionable. Especially since she and her other half were on a top of all second homes scams ever! Wonderful… Labour, the party of the people… bankers, rich people and people that have something to give them!
Cooper is a complete and utter bint!
Excellent London the Capital of World Finance, lets, just for a minute, substitue it with the Mines and the Factories and the wonderful Unions. So, the Thatcher Government set up another Industry, just for you to Nationalise it. You make me sick. Now, just now your are trying to Nationalise my life, go screw youself, when you can come back and tell me how we can take this Island back into the positive without having to keep your ideals, and when I do not have to pay for your dream of Utopia, you working class piece of crap.
ve form a Toff xxx
Guido that is your best blog yet. Just reading it you felt a sense of power and strength and determination. Thanks
Sir Stuart Bell – Notable Speeches in the House of Commons 1982-2009
4 fucking speeches
http://www.stuartbellmp.org/#/SPEECHES/
TOSSER
and 200 self-serving TV appearances
So. If I do a bank job and then apologise and offer to pay some of the money back, it’s all tickety-boo, then?
At the very worst, even if I don’t pay it back I may get deselected and not be eligible for future bank jobs.
Close. I think the gummint agency for retrieving your ill gotten games as a crim spends about ten times what it, er, retrieves. So you could rob plenty of banks (or do something more lucrative like drug dealing for example or VAT fraud etc) and after a few paltry years in jail (reduced sentence obviously because you have expressed remorse, whatever; your brief will, er, brief you) you just go back to the high life on the Costa del Sol or wherever you fancy. You’ll have sorted out the financial planning before you go obviously; plenty of “legit” businesses in your control anyway, say car washes for example. Must have the potential for plenty of cash transactions (even when you are not, em “transacting” but two lads on £6 per hour each 40 hours a week sorts that bit out) and, thank you gawd for the HMRC, the Treasury launders your dosh for you at maximum 40% (ok 50% soon) but hey that is cheaper than any of the crook competition. Or have I said too much? I really must try and stay away from the nasty world of finance. I must.
I wrote “games” for “gains”! Now that is what you might call a freudian slip. Arf.
Well his Scottish Lordship ex speaker Martin has been exaulted into the upper house, hip hip hoorah!, and Labour want to get rid of sycophant hereditary Lords. Kicked out of one house and installed in another what does that say about Labour, country is going to the dogs chaps!
They want all their own people in there. When the hereditory peers get thrown out, they’ll have a nice majority in there, thank you.
Disgusting, I have an hereditary Title and I will not use it, they make me sick working class pretence. Amazing how they hate toffs but they want to emulate us!!!!
David Cameron is willing to lose influence in Europe, rather than lose face with the Eurosceptics in his own party.
The Tories have shown their true colours by allying with homo-phobic and climate-denying politicians in Europe. But worst of all, they have allied with the Wafen-S_S, as today’s Guardian editorial makes clear there can be no excuses for this.
David Cameron is willing to lose influence in Europe, rather than lose face with the Eurosceptics in his own party.
The Tories have shown their true colours by allying with extreme Right, homo-phobic and climate-denying politicians in Europe.
That’s fine while they’re in opposition – although it is shameful that any mainstream British party would ally itself with such dodgy characters in Brussels – but it would be a disaster if it formed a central plank of this country’s foreign policy.
That’s fine while they’re in opposition – although it is shameful that any mainstream British party would ally itself with such dodgy characters in Brussels – but it would be a disaster if it formed a central plank of this country’s foreign policy.
F*ck off and get a job
Before calling names check out your gang of headbangers and who they hang out with in the EU.
Tory trolls are really quite boring. They are sociopathic and blindly worship at the feet of Cameron, Hannan, Maggie or whoever else.
It’s pointless arguing with you.
Well don’t then. Just wait until next May. The results will speak for themselves.
New Labour War Party trolls are really quite boring. They are sociopathic and blindly worship at the feet of the Torturer-in-Chief Brown, his assistant torturer Miliband, Mandelson the mortgage fraudster or whoever else.
It’s pointless arguing with you.
Go away you pathetic troll.
Ah Harriets back
Trolls… better a Troll than a Toll dear boy! And Tolls and taxes are all we get from the Labour banking Party.
Just what ARE you on?
Go away troll.
I am waiting for you my boy, the Pit Heads are going to be opened up just now, instead of being Business Parks, we are going to repatriate our Land, and you will be digging underneath it, working class droit.
Fabian, if all the Tory Trolls fucked off, you’d be here talking to yourself.
Gordon, is that you??
Once was more than enough of this drivel
“Climate-denying”? I’ve never met anyone who denied the existence of climate. Perhaps you’re thinking of the old joke “In other countries they have a climate. In Britain, we just have weather.”
So, we forget the fact that we have been at war with the Germans and the French and the Spancish all Communists. Oh, selective memory, do me a favour and get back down the Mines. Just love Socialism, I want it, you have it, so I will take it. Either by force or by indoctrination! Cameron, did what he had to do, to box the other parties, do not forget that the parties he is align to are ex communist Countries, they know and feel the way we have to put up with things here now. Go away you pretendy Toff xxx
Cut and paste, cut and paste ….all without attribution.
“That’s fine while they’re in opposition – although it is shameful that any mainstream British party would ally itself with such dodgy characters in Brussels – but it would be a disaster if it formed a central plank of this country’s foreign policy.
That’s fine while they’re in opposition – although it is shameful that any mainstream British party would ally itself with such dodgy characters in Brussels – but it would be a disaster if it formed a central plank of this country’s foreign policy.
”
Check your cut&paste, Dollybot…
I woke up this morning and realised my trousers didn’t fit. That was because of all the MP’s hands in the pockets.
go get ‘em, Guido; if you want helpers for the streetlamp lynchings, yours truly is only too glad to help…
‘ Ere “Fabian” .. there’s a cup of tea for you, going cold in the canteen at “The Yard” .. so piss off & drink it and stop being a boring twat ..
Grave concerns that we are seeing crocodie tears here and that they will all agree, after furious complaint, to pay everything Legg asks, which will be a fraction of what is rightly due, but be seen as a major sacrifice and drawing a line under it all. They are setting us up to see compliance with Legg’s requirements as more than they need to do. Bollocks. Fact is the “new system” that that old labour fart keeps talking about is as bent as the one they are all claiming against. How do you deal with it? Simple play them at their own game – The press must take the stance that Legg does not go far enough. There is far more due than he says and any decxent investigative journalist should be able to broach this – Pinnochio Smith is the starting point – if as I understand she did not get a Legg letter.. Secondly – go back beyond five years – why do you think Brown et al picked this – what went on before was even more blatant fiddling because the rules were clearer. Why should this not be looked at. Where are the attack dogs on the net or in the press – come on Guido give us a steer.
Brown is using Legg or whatever his name to try and dampen down the hysteria from the braindead Liebour core,Camby is trying to do the same,in a few months this who ha will drop down the list of peoples problems and troughing will carry in ernest,I hope the HMRC are keeping the names of these MP’s as they won’t have power all the time,they forget they can go up as well as down and will join us plebs sooner or later and I hope the HMRC will be waiting for them on that day and take back every penny they stole from the taxpayers
Charlie
HMRC and New labour are thick as thieves (in fact the “as” is optional). Back scratching occurs in both directions. In my opinion, and given the evidence of their greed MPs will have evaded tax with off-shore accounts, no doubt about it. Should an MP be able to take advantage of the amnesty? No f’in way but they are. Has there been one prosecution for this criminal evasion – no yet HMRC policy is to prosecte those who should know better e.g. those in public office. Senior HMRC officials now wine and dine with directors of large companies – and leave to get lucrative jobs in the Private Sector. Do the government step in – no they don’t. And they all hide behind tax-payer confidentiality. One whistleblower in PD 1 would make the expenses issue seem like small beer.
Varney was Brown’s appointee to head up IR C&E merger, then left super suddenly – why? Where did that elusive head of the fees office, Andrew Walker, work before the Commons – you guessed it – HMRC. Why had he not been questioned by the police – t’s absolutely amazing that he hasn’t. This goes very deep but will all fall apart soon.
haven’t we still got the Kelly report?
or doesn’t that matter now?
Behind the crazed, demented ramblings of Guido’s sychophants about the public sector, calling them “unproductive” and not “proper jobs”, I detect more than a hint of Sexism.
Women’s jobs are more important to women themselves. Women’s work is more important now than it used to be in every sector of the economy. And women’s work is vital for public services – they just wouldn’t work without women. In the public sector, 72% of the workforce is women.
Women’s work is even more important than it was 10 years ago. We make up 47% of the total workforce at this time. Women’s jobs are important. For just over 20% of all couples, women’s pay contribute over 50% of family incomes.
If more women worked in the private sector, it might not be in the trouble it’s in now (see Harman’s Lehman SIsters comments).
It’s no surprise that the public sector is expanding and the private sector is struggling right now – women are simply more competent and diligent workers than men, in general. That’s why Gordon Brown’s Labour Party is committed to getting more women into Parliament, while the Toryboys have hardly any women on the front bench.
Women should vote Labour – we are the progressive party that will look after female interests.
Fabian Solutions
What a well constructed, well rounded argument you make for the important role women play in our government – clearly not got the rags in this week.
Love
Get your clothes on and make us a cup of tea
I dont even want to see your tits
Charlie boy…had a sex change then?
Women in government eh? Great Idea FS. We’ve done it aleady with a certain M. Thatcher. First woman to be leader of a political party in Britain, First woman to be British Prime Minister. How forward thinking! 50% of the population had a voice at the top of government. How progressive! Tough in negotiation she was able to call the EU to account and got a rebate and she didn’t flinch when terrorists and South American military juntas threatened the nation’s interests.
So, at last, a woman breaks the glass ceiling in government. And when, precisely, are Labour going to chose a woman to lead them? Nah, lets just patronise them and call them Blair’s Babes. Gather round girls for a photo shoot at Westminster with Mr. Tony. Smile please, teeth and t*ts, thats it! Snap, snap. You can all go now, I won’t be needing you any more!!
You are living proof that a little learning is a dangerous thing.
You clearly know nothing about business or politics. Along with your low IQ, that is why you are unable to make a decent contribution to this debate.
Margaret Thatcher appointed no women to her Cabinet and did nothing to help women in industry or the public sector.
Under her the Tories continued to be the same homophobic, sexists party. they only tolerated her because she won elections, with the help of the Right-wing media.
And just what is your contribution to the debate?
All you do is regurgitate stuff from HQ…cut’n'pasted…so none of it is your own thinking.
Come back when you have something original to say…otherwise just stay away.
listen -put your pipe and slippers down……….
in case you hadnt noticed your whole post is SEXIST!!!!!!
that is how intelligent you are!!!!!!!!
the world is in a mess because people are corrupt……….
lie upon lie has led us to this point….a near breaking point……..
now stop posting bollocks on here…….
pretty soon we will all be up shit strasse!
She did help this one.
Thatcher taught me that if you want to get on and make some money you don’t play the victim. You get respect by hard work, intelligence and honesty — like her. Look at yourselves — still wingeing about her 30 years later LOL!
Good ole Thatch has completely traumatised ‘em. Earlier today, Radio 4 even tried to blame her for the death of Prog Rock, ffs!
Really? I didn’t know that — another achievement by La Thatch, well done old girl… she was the enema of socialism. Right up their arses.
…in a good way
well we must be having an impact because the appearance of fabian solutions (there are none) is telling. why is everything called solutions these days? – plumbing solutions, electric solutions, global solutions – is it because they’re crap???
…because they’re liquid and evaporate fast. All that’s left is a big bruin stain and a huge bill.
Go back to Labia list you treacherous bitch!!!!Women should be appointed on merit not because they are simply female.Women do make up the majority of the public sector workforce which may explain why it is so inefficent. Women seem to think that they are entitled to a cushy life because of the so-called oppression that they suffered in the past. Don’t forget that men have also been oppressed in the past on the grounds of race,class or religion.You are a typical feminist who only wants equality when it suits. What about raising women’s retirement age or making sure that assets and child custody are split equally after divorce.Why not make sure that when women commit crimes they actually get the same punishments as a man would get. What about imprisoning women who make false rape allegations instead of letting them off because they were female and under stress. And finally what about healthcare. Women are half the population but receive 90% of the healthcare budget.When feminazi scum like you campaign for men’s rights I might take some fucking notice!!!!
Go take a look at the harpies and harridans grouped around Jackass Smiff when she misspoke her 54 secs of non-apology in the House, and there you will find your answer. Jumped-up, mediocre mush masquerading as (expensive) MPs to meet Liebour diversity/equality quotas.
Yuk.
And then I woke up and it was all dream… someone show Gordo the shower!
just what the tories need, more absolute crap like this, assuming ofcourse that this really isnt a pisstake?
liebour, continuing to dictate to people how they should live their lives, cos really you know, they absolutely do know best! oh how i wish i could be perfect like them.
You piece of garbage, I am a woman, I was an Imigrant in South Africa, been there done that, you must stop this crap, we are all people. The difference is. will you actually produce anything to help this Island get back on its feet? Everyone is an Indivdual, we all have a mission in life, I am not going to pay for you to spout crap all over the place, by the way, do you work for Capita? Happy tax payers money you working class sorry person.
Good for you. Ms. Fabian and all who loaf with her, always playing their victim card, always spending someone else’s hard earned, always fancying themselves on top of the moral dung heap… parasites.
It’s the stench of moral superiority these socialist clowns adopt as they rant their ideological garbage that gets me. The whole world and his dog are shoe-horned into some ghastly vision. We are expected to conform to this model. They know better. They lecture and pontificate. They know best. Contradict them and it’s degeneracy …..sexist, homophobic, capitalistic, and, worst of the lot, ‘Tory toff’.
I’ve said it before and make no apologies for repeating myself. Socialism is a cult. It goes without saying that cults are dangerous.
Socialists=Scientologists !
Got em now,
Women shouldn’t work in dangerous jobs. If you tell a woman “be careful with that knife, it’s sharp”, she will almost inevitably cut herself and blame you.
Oh I see, work for Capita do you? Oh please help me I am a woman, get a life, working class piece of shit.
Guido, instead of naming the troughing MPs and telling us how they took wads of dosh, how about a list of those whose claims were modest or even zero. By pointing to the saints it may well show the sinners in sharper relief.
You only have to look at the two MPs for Luton!
Don’t think even the ‘saints’ are totally free from criticism. I am hot on the trail of 2.
You ungrateful twats
This shower of shit have just provided us all with a cast iron defense against a whole lot of charges
Fucking excellent
MPs appear to be experiencing a psychiatric state where they occupy an imaginary, parallel reality where they lose touch with their real personalities and histories. They reinforce each others’ delusions and enter what I think is called a ‘dissociative fugue’.
Is that a posh way of saying “They’re a load of troughing chumps”?
‘dissociative fugue’
can I use this, it’s brill!
FLASH>>>
BROWN,CLEGG,CAMERON IN LIVE TV DEBATE NEXT TUESDAY.
But don’t get too excited..it’s part of Speakers Conference and the audience will be MP’s asking questions.
Chaired by…….wait for it…..
John Bercow!!!!!!!!!
FFS….all the bloody MP’s will do is whinge about their expenses.
Send cabbie bercow back to the ea
Send Cabbie Bercow back to the East End where he belongs…
He should be a waiter in that k restaurent there….
The way these MP’s are talking about the £1000 and £2000 limit on past expenses one would have thought that we, the public should, quite rightly, get annoyed that ANY figure is unacceptable.
The point being that all future MP’s will take this figure (adjusted by inflation 5% about base rate per annum) as a figure to aim at, not realising that actually they should not claim at all.
By imposing a limit what Legg is saying is that it is acceptable.
Personally I find it unacceptable. Let them do their own garden. Let them be allocated standard furniture, second hand from outgoing MP’s. If they chose to buy their own house furnishings, so be it, that is what a salary is for ie to live and spend on keeping you and your family.
Labour is working to secure a fair future for Britain. We stand resolutely for the hard working majority of the British people. In this global economic downturn our approach is not only helping people now but also planning for recovery.
Labour is taking decisive action at a local, national and global level to help people through these tough times. We are providing real help now by supporting families and investing in jobs, public services and in key sectors of the economy.
And because we are Labour, we are giving real support to all – not giveaways for the few. We are bringing forward investment – not cutting services. And we will stand by those who are worried that they could lose their homes or jobs – not walk on by.
Key achievements
Labour is taking action to give real help to families and businesses now and for the future:
* Extra mortgage protection to help families stay in their homes
* Giving a £145 tax cut for 22 million basic rate taxpayers
* Cutting VAT this year worth an average of £275 off household bills
* Guaranteed work or training for 18-24 year olds unemployed for twelve months
* Increasing child benefit and child tax credit
* An extra £60 payment to pensioners on top of a rise in the state pension
* Increasing the Pension Credit to a minimum of £130 a week
* A Winter Fuel Payment of £400 for over 80s households and £250 to the over 60s
* Allowing businesses facing difficulties to spread their tax payments on a timetable they can afford
* Extra cash to encourage employers to recruit people without jobs
* Stepping up the training and support people need to get back to work
* Helping savers by increasing the threshold of Individual Savings Accounts to over £10,000
* Increasing statutory redundancy pay to £380 a week
* Extending the Stamp Duty holiday for properties under £175,000
* Supporting the automotive industry with a car scrappage scheme.
Where’s the Referendum on Lisbon that you lot promised in your manifesto,then?
“Labour is working to secure a fair future for Britain”
My arse!!!!
We promised a referendum on the European Constitution that has now been scrapped.
Please learn some politics before posting again.
Idiot.
Just been programmed have you?
Please fully clarify the differences between the EU Constitution and Lisbon.
If you can?
We’re waiting……
Why are we waiting?
..why are we waiting?
Come back tomorrow pal. I’ve emailed head office for an answer from the comrades but they said they need to work one out down the pub tonight.
That is a lie
Fabian Solutions
a downright lie.
The Reform Treaty is the Constitution as every newspaper and media outlet in Europe will confirm.
I have a two ten pound notes in my hand the only difference I can see is the serial numbers,they are still ten pound notes,European Constitution,Lisbon Treaty, the only difference is the version number,it’s still the European Consitution.
Referendum now,
The only future FS has is akin to that of Sharon Shoesmith’s… the country can’t afford parasites, and there’s work to be done.
Cor, blimey FS, it’s a proper little workers paradise innit?
OK, it really is time for your medication.
Yeah, fucking easy to spend money you haven’t got isn’t it
Only of my back, you sorry,sorry,person, try the World, they would not put up with your views anywhere else, I cannot wait to crush you to the bone, and get you back down the Pits and in the Factories, rather than pretending that you can walk around with Clip Boards, you know who you are, you are the sad losers that were the bottom of the class, and we are watching you. For sure, we are watching you half wit, sad, working class piece of shit.
And bankrupting the country…
Great achievement ?
Talk about the colossal fucking public debt you are leaving us with…
New Labour was just a HUGE CON JOB financially…
Which country’s automotive industry was supported?
As well as providing real help now to tackle the problems we face today, Labour is preparing Britain to seize the opportunities of tomorrow. We are investing now so we are best placed to take advantage of the upturn.
* To support families we brought forward an increase in child benefit and child tax credit. We helped pensioners during the winter months with an extra £60 bonus on top of the increase in the Winter Fuel payment. Labour has cut income tax by £145 for 22 million basic rate taxpayers and cut VAT, saving households on average £275 off their household bills.
* Supporting businesses so they come through the downturn stronger is integral for our future economic success. Working with banks, Labour is providing loan guarantees to businesses to help them get the credit they need. And to ease pressure on businesses up and down the country, we are allowing them to defer their tax payments on a timetable that they can afford.
* We are acting now to help people stay in their homes. Labour has introduced a homeowner support scheme which provides extra protection to help families stay in their homes if they suffer a temporary fall in income. In contrast, at a time of recession David Cameron’s priority is an inheritance tax giveaway of £200,000 to the 3,000 richest estates in the country.
* We are guaranteeing a job, training or work placement to all 18-24 year olds who are unemployed for 12 months. We are increasing statutory redundancy pay. Employers are being given up to £2,500 to recruit and train people.
* The UK will need to strive harder than ever to accelerate its transformation into a low-carbon economy, benefiting business and the wider economy. We will not shy away from key questions of the future, such as how we transport ourselves, how we heat our homes and workplaces and how we produce our goods. We will embrace these opportunities positively in order to meet our aim of creating thousands of new jobs in green technology and advanced manufacturing.
* So we need a strategy to support the UK’s economic renewal and future growth – building on existing strengths in low carbon technologies, life sciences and pharmaceuticals, digital industries, professional and financial services and advanced manufacturing. To achieve these objectives, we will need to forge a new industrial activism. Most of all, we will need to improve the skills of our workforce and adapt them to the specialist demands of a modern economy; invest in an effective modern infrastructure; innovate further in science and technology; and industrialise this innovation in commercially successful ways.
Cut’n'pasting still,I see.
Fabian Solutions
You make large contributions so quickly – you must work in a typing pool.
Suggest Harriet you get a life or at least get a boyfriend.
Purveyors of second hand ideas. Solutions my arse.
Labour have fucked the country beyond comprehension.
Piss off with your Fabian ‘solutions’.
I concur Anonymous… sadly some are far too invested in their own fantasy to actually see this. Frankly I have no illusions about the other party I will vote for… sooner or later we will get shafted all over again.
Agreed, but at least we might get five or ten years of respite before it goes sour again.
Is it “on message” for Mandlebum to be calling the posties lunatics at the moment or is he just peeved with this expenses thing. Just thought I’d ask.
Posties Are Raving Loonies: says Mandleson
Good to know everything is running to plan.
What have you got against Mandelson you homophobic reactionary dinosaur.
He’s a lying toe-rag.
“What have you got against Mandelson “..
Thankfully,nothing at all.
xxxxxxx
He is a complete parody, what a huge laugh, actually, the biggest joke is your media.
Mandy calling his core voters lunatics ,good way for the Liebour party to go 4th.
Ha, ha. You know nuffink!
Ha, ha. You know nuffink (Fabian). More than core voters Charlie, they actually convey the core vote from many a muslim elder and other assorted block voters. The bins will be full round Birmingham near election time. Ho, ho. [Sound effect of unravelling in the background]
Everything Mandelscum touches in his department turns out to be a disaster
The car industry…
The postal service…
Industrial employment collapsing etc
He will go down as the worth business secretary in history…
Hardly surprising…
He has never done a honest days work in his life…
Agreed. Try getting some sense out of his Glorious Department of State. Sheer vanity. They cannot respond to simple enquiries. Await the dismantling in 2010, “not fit for purpose” etc.
How Final “Solutions” gets his “ideas”
Nah, I think his “ideas” come from here really: Office 2007 Tutorial Students/Home Version.
As well as providing real help now to tackle the problems we face today, Labour is preparing Britain to seize the opportunities of tomorrow. We are investing now so we are best placed to take advantage of the upturn. [WW: Spending is not investing. It does not produce a return]
* To support families we brought forward an increase in child benefit and child tax credit. We helped pensioners during the winter months with an extra £60 bonus on top of the increase in the Winter Fuel payment. Labour has cut income tax by £145 for 22 million basic rate taxpayers and cut VAT, saving households on average £275 off their household bills. [WW: The child benefit, tax credit and IT changes are only inflationary and do not represent any real benefit at all. The VAT cut is only temporary and benefits mainly the better-off, like me. The Winter Fuel payment is scant compensation for massive increases in energy costs, due to Labour's refusal actually to have an energy supply policy and its building of lots of silly windmills]
* Supporting businesses so they come through the downturn stronger is integral for our future economic success. Working with banks, Labour is providing loan guarantees to businesses to help them get the credit they need. And to ease pressure on businesses up and down the country, we are allowing them to defer their tax payments on a timetable that they can afford. [WW: The loan guarantee scheme was a complete flop. Banks did not want it and the actual additional security for banks and borrowers is negligible. Ask any accountant.]
* We are acting now to help people stay in their homes. Labour has introduced a homeowner support scheme which provides extra protection to help families stay in their homes if they suffer a temporary fall in income. In contrast, at a time of recession David Cameron’s priority is an inheritance tax giveaway of £200,000 to the 3,000 richest estates in the country. [WW: Quite right that the IHT cut is wrong; they should increase the threshold for tax and NI instead. The home owner support scheme is tiny and no substitute for not breaking the banking system through abject negligence in the first place]
* We are guaranteeing a job, training or work placement to all 18-24 year olds who are unemployed for 12 months. We are increasing statutory redundancy pay. Employers are being given up to £2,500 to recruit and train people. [WW: Training: you say this every year. It never happens. If you want to create real jobs for young people to take you have to get off employer's backs. Increasing employer's NI will destroy more jobs. Statutory redundancy pay: mostly paid by employers. Thanks a lot. £2,500: see above, you are just bribing people with their own money; cut taxes on employment if you want job creation].
* The UK will need to strive harder than ever to accelerate its transformation into a low-carbon economy, benefiting business and the wider economy. We will not shy away from key questions of the future, such as how we transport ourselves, how we heat our homes and workplaces and how we produce our goods. We will embrace these opportunities positively in order to meet our aim of creating thousands of new jobs in green technology and advanced manufacturing. [WW: meaningless Motherhood babble. You understand nothing about the productive economy]
* So we need a strategy to support the UK’s economic renewal and future growth – building on existing strengths in low carbon technologies, life sciences and pharmaceuticals, digital industries, professional and financial services and advanced manufacturing. To achieve these objectives, we will need to forge a new industrial activism. Most of all, we will need to improve the skills of our workforce and adapt them to the specialist demands of a modern economy; invest in an effective modern infrastructure; innovate further in science and technology; and industrialise this innovation in commercially successful ways. [WW: See above. You demonstrate your utter ignorance of productive work at great length]
Well said, Sir William. You took the trouble to deconstruct a Labour rant. Not a pleasant task, but occasionally necessary. Not a difficult job but must have been tedious for you.
Why bother, just call them working class shits and send them back down the Pits.
Well said.
Just had the new business rates for 2010 in.
A 35% increase!!!
How in hell is that going to get paid? The only good news is that its not due until April so I don’t need to lay anyone off until January.
Labour. You work hard so we don’t have too.
we will need to forge a new industrial activism
Oh for fuck’s sake, when you have left your cosy non-job in the public sector or some fucking think-tank, when you have set up your own industrial business, when you have put your own money on the line, when you have won and delivered successfully against contract after contract, when you have done that for ten years and are still in business…. then, and only then, will I listen to fucking bullshit like…. “we will need to forge a new industrial activism”
In the meantime, fuck off.
comment direct at the Fabian hoon above, not Sir William
Calm down my friend , straight back down the Pits and back into the Factories, oh no, that would be Asda just now. Do not worry we will send them and their clip boards digging out with their pens, think about it!!!!
Guido can’t you rid us of this tedious troll? It’s wearing out my scroll bar.
Some scroll bars are more equal than others.
Fuck off.
Fabian, think on this.
Your party is despised more than any I can ever remember in my life.
You have plundered our pensions, sold off our assets, and your politicians have robbed us blind.
Get the picture?
This is a government that prosecutes parents if they look after each other’s children, prosecutes pensioners if they defend themselves from teenage thugs,spent more than it earned for over a decade in order to engorge the public sector with unprecedented numbers of box-tickers and hangers-on while the private sector (which pays for it all, ultimately) whithered. This is a government that allowed bank regulators to overlook banks incurring debts far greater than their assets, then blamed another country when it all fell apart. This is the government that ignored all the advice and refused to renew ageing power stations, so now we have an impending power shortfall.
And they wonder why this government is hated?
> his is a government that allowed bank regulators to overlook banks incurring debts far greater than their assets
Allowed? It positively forced them to increase credit.
How are you going to pay for all of this? Thanks to your government of useless treacherous incompetent retards,there is no money!! Which bit of “the country is broke” do you and the rest of ZanuLabia not understand?
As has been said many times before socialism is a great way of wasting other people’s money. Why don’t you lot just fuck off and die before you do any more damage!!!
To the less than honourable members quit complaining and pay up if you’ve partied too long tough, we want blood.
Im on the rag
Forgive my insanity
Do you have a webcam love?
If so how much for 5 minutes of beaver play?
I’m on benefits so maybe you can give me a bit of qauntative easing and then I can pay you back in 2345
£50 if you shit on the camera
It’s Blood, Sweat and Tears!
£60!
£ 6000 per second going up in smoke-
sterling dropping like a stone-
ah yes that’ll be Britain-
the best placed country on Earth………..
a fucking disgrace and the dishonourable members make us the laughing stock of the world.well done half-wits……….
The exchange rate is killing me, Thanks to Brown and his useless cohorts.
Tough shit capitalist…
Fucking delicious!
To all those that vote Labour,Conservative or Liberals.
Ever get the feeling you’ve been had, suckers?
It’s not the party supporters that have been had, it’s the taxpayers.
Party supporters are taxpayers. But they’re the ones who prove that they are as stupid as MP’s think they are.
Got any better ideas? Workable ones, I mean.
Workable ones? Another who can’t see his way past the old party system.
What would you replace it with?
You have a vote. Are you happy with the state of the nation that is the result of being tied to the party system for the last 50+ years?
And you can’t suggest anything better, can you?
But who are you saying these party supporters should well support if they do thing past the old party system,your only giving half of a story,expand past the nastiness your showing and give them a clue or don’t you know yourself.
I merely point out the obvious. If you vote for a corrupt party system,don’t be surprised when you’re the victim of such corruption.
Why didn’t you point that out to them using your first comment,instead you played the yahoo u suck a school kids game,it may be obvious to you and it could be obvious to them it’s corrupt but you still haven’t said which party would be without corruption as you appear to have found one and most on this blog are floating voters and would like to give the party without corruption a look at.
Power corrupts the lot of them
Why do you have to vote for a party? I thought the idea of elections was to vote for the best candidate of the choice available in your constituancy. But,as you demonstrate,you have been conditioned to believe that only the “established party system” can deliver us into the sunny uplands of the new jerusalem.
Your statement was parties you never mentioned just the best candidate,I just don’t do mindreading,it’s an excellent idea and I would love to see it happen,but because we are humans and as such one will always try to be topdog and all will have a mixture of idea’s how the state should be run and will want to run it their way and spend more time debating than running the state,the party system is corrupt but it does have one thing,that is order,well a bit of it,just enough for the topdog to get his way.
The whole idea of a parliament of MP’s is that those MP’s, being representatives of their constituants,should act in the best interests of those who elected them. The party system requires MP’s to put their loyalty in the party first,and constituants second. If you believe that any group of people are unable to operate without “order” as you put it,you have been successfully conditioned to think that way.
If you were ever on trial as an innocent person,who would you be best served by? A jury of twelve independant citizens,or the party?
If you had said that first time you would have had agreement but you didn’t ,the next thing would be how do you get the braindead to vote for an indepenent MP,the only one I can think of is the Doctor from Stourbridge and he was fighting to save the local hospital and that was it as far as I know.
1. I’m not looking for agreement,just laughing at those who are shocked that the long known corrupt party politics that they supported has pissed all over them.
2. Who are the braindead that you speak of? Labour,Conservative and Liberal voters perhaps? Surely not.
3. Dr Richard Taylor,i presume you mean,was elected by his constituents against the party machine,and has shown that it can be done. Saving his local hospital is a far worthier cause to stand for election than vote for me because i’ll be whipped to follow our leader.
yes engineer, I do have a better and workable idea.
ofcourse I do, I am a genius.
but it is not good news for a partisan fellow like you.
the best way forward would be for neither of the main parties to gain an outright victory. I believe that a slim majority win would instil a sense of coalition, of being in this thing together, as the tories say, in the commons.
and so that means would have a new parliament working together as a team, heading in the same direction.
that is a workable idea.
and after that in the next parliament I would hope to see even more independent candidates occupying seats in the commons at the expense of the parties.
I would particularly like to see a major erosion of the two main parties’ number of MPs, with perhaps as many as a third of the tories seats stolen from them and maybe the same again taken from labour by independent members.
if that happens then this country and her democracy will be in a far, far superior position to the one it is in now.
don’t you agree?
Slight problem in that Lisbon Treaty will be law above ours on Jan 1st if the Czechs fold. We either recognise all of the treaty or we don’t, TaT. Dave is talking bollox by suggesting he can negotiate it.
voting for and independent local candidate is the purest form of democracy but ofcourse that independence would be meaningless if our parliament is ruled by a foreign power.
so in the first instance we must look to those who will deny the legitimacy of the lisbon treaty: it is an illegal document as far as the constitution of this country and that conclusion needs to be arrived at by a British Court.
so the judges better get in line or they will be for the rope.
and hey, you guys in UKIP have got a great pitch for the British public so I wish you well.
but don’t get too comfortable on the benches because real independent candidates will be in hot pursuit and looking for scalps from all of the parties, including yours.
So that’s it, the party leaders have united in the demand for their respective flock to pay up or Feck off, but what’s this I have just seen new red overcoat and trimmed with ermine Gorbals Mike getting another helping at the trough.
Is he paying up? He’s not fecking off for sure.
I see mandy has had to repay £800 of an £1800 bill which he says he paid to have a large tree, which overhung his neighbours garden, lopped.
Is he kidding?
We are just in the process of having four large ( and I mean large) trees removed from our garden at a total cost of £300. And this by a reputable vat registered professional.
No wonder government finances are in such a mess. These idiots have no idea what a reasonable price to pay is for any given service and either don’t realise, or don’t care when they are being ripped off. I presume they apply the same lack of common sense to their government departmental budgets.
What economically incompetent fools they are!!
Well there were two big burly tree surgeons and for some reason it took them a very long time to finish the work.
Did we pay for extra services as well then?
Same approach as for PFI. When it’s not their money they’re spending they don’t give a shit about getting value for it.
The rate around here is £100 a tree, felled, cleared and burnt.
The extra £1700 must have been for the tree surgeons to strip, oil up and put on a gay cabaret.
Shame Legg wasn’t also looking into value for money.
Have you never heard of ‘cash-back’? Now you know why the flat in Regent’s Park has no mortgage on it.
Worrying from Brogan’s comments…
“the UK government plans to offer to each MP who pays back his undue expenses a special form of indemnification and hold harmless agreement that will effectively relieve that MP or other official from any further investigation or money clawback arising during or after their tenure in Whitehall.”
Why? HMRC don’t do that heaven forbid!
Just read this -orchestrated by Brown and Straw – think this would be the final insult – I for one would be ready to march.
March where? Round in a circle?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/mod-wins-first-round-of-compensation-battle-1801783.html
A good day to bury bad news?!
Well spotted!
What a bunch of Hooning chumps.
What a tragedy for our troops.
An even bigger tragedy is that they are going to have to continue fighting this thankless war in Afghanistan , under-valued, under-equipped and unsupported until next May when we can get this self-serving, criminally negligent Labour crew out of government.
How many dead before then? I cannot understand how the Queen can stand by and watch what’s happening to the country… her mother wouldn’t have.
I think that local people should turn up to “MP Surgeries” dressing in Pink Piggy Outfits…. and accompanied by the local & national press of course.
Let the piggy fightback begin !!!
* * * R E W A R D * * *
Lets start humiliating these bastards. I am prepared to pay £1,000 to the best YouTube clip of a troughing MP being accosted by pink piggies,
Also £2,000 for the first ton of bullshit to be dropped at Fat Bitch Jackoff Smith’s second home !
Guido – please let me know where I can deposit the cash !
ANY MERCENARIES OUT THERE ??
You need to see Old Holborns blog he know’s where he ean get pink piggie costumes,by the way he’s going for a walk on Nov 5th and if you happen to bump into him around the HOC he might go for a drink with you.
The troughing chumps are getting it already. An MP (can’t remember which one, and if I’m honest, I don’t really care) interviewed on PM programme this evening by Eddie Mair told of a school event he attended. Being a good sport, he took place in a seniors race, in which he didn’t excel. A 10-year old heckler was heard to shout “Hurry up or you’ll have no time to fill your expenses in”. Must admit, I smirked.
I don’t envy them when they start doorstep campaigning for the next election.
Look what happened to the carrot topped one when she went campaigning the other month and left her car parked up the road.
She came back to find windows and tyres slashed.
Yes indeed. They’ll be taken aback at how ordinary people will treat them – this won’t be forgotten for a long time.
The House had a collective opportunity to salvage some of it’s reputation today. So far, it has failed miserably. Legal challenges to Legg have been muttered about – a guaranteed way to dig the hole they’re in deeper.
It was the ex Sports Minister – Richard Caborn, very sportingly he is anti-field sports and loves ID cards; he looked for commiseration and sympathy from the line of questioning pursued by Mair by mentioning how he was inconvenienced by being heckled in public. Hanging in public is too good for these troughers!!!
I know a good dairy farmer in Bromsgrove, but he said “it’s a bit sloppy to transport so could he drive the cows round to 121 Rectory Rd to perform”
They are performing cows!
Honest Mr moderator they have equity cards
But where IS the cow’s 2nd home?????
The pig enclosure,London Zoo
She’s not listed as a voter at her London address. Suprised?
“mandy has had to repay £800 of an £1800 bill which he says he paid to have a large tree, which overhung his neighbours garden, lopped.”
How the fuck does this enable him to do his job eh? this is theft pure and simple.
Look saddos you had a good run but you got greedy and sloppy so just pay it back and go get real jobs.
Its not as if your doing a good job, the country is wrecked,doom and gloom everywhere. If your pay was “performance” related you would owe us.
Hunts!!!
Most of them are expected to pay back less than I had to scrape together for a new boiler. And I imagine they’re a lot better off than me. Even if they feel genuinely aggrieved about this ‘retrospective’ issue – don’t they realise it’s a small price to pay to make the public feel that some ‘justice’ has been done?
It doesnt cost £1800 to get a tree lopped.
I had the largest tree in the world removed from my garden this summer. It was one huge huge mother fucker. It cost £450 from a proper tree surgeon (cash ofcourse as I wanted to save on the VAT).
So Mandy charge the tax payer a ridiculous sum – didnt bother getting a decent quote, because after all it WANT HIS FUCKING MONEY !
You, Sir, are a tax evader. Well done!
From The Times
17.23pm Smallest repayment so far. Ed Balls (Lab, Normanton) and Yvette Cooper (Lab, Pontefract), a married couple, are to repay £13.50 each because of a “miscalculation” of interest claims on their joint mortgage in 2006/07.
FFS.
The biggest of troughers if you examine their communications and office expenses. No wonder they were smirking as they walked into no.10 today.
They won’t be smirking come next May.
Yes they will. Because they’ll be enjoying the rewards that they have accumulated at our expense. That’s before they move into well paid directorships or the lords.
God forbid either of these criminals end up in the Lords!!!!
That would be a worse travesty than seeing gorbals mick installed there today.
I think even the tories are now of the view that the Lords has to become an elected senate to clean it up and make it acceptable.
Cameron is going to have to bring that one in. Hopefully that will mean that people like fookes, taylor and baronesses u and scotland are finally consigned to the tip.
God won’t have anything to do with it. It’s not in his remit. They are very astute crooks. All their aquired wealth is fully “within the rules”. As for Cameron changing the system of old MP’s moving seamlessly into the lords,dream on.
Was that deliverance? I bet Fumblebum would like to see it.
http://www.sfo.gov.uk/fraud/what-is-fraud.aspx
why aren’t the police doing their job?
mps= guilty
Grow up,divvy. The police follow “orders”
I hope it’s not the two hyphenated orders at the top of this blog old chap.
It is. They give ‘em,you follow ‘em
Give us back our money, every single penny, stop squeeling and pay up now!
It is not retrospective.
Their own rules have always said: “wholly, necessarily and exclusively incurred” in the performance of parliamentary duty.
This is a point constantly overlooked, for some odd reason.
which is odd because it is the main point.
Absolutement, mon cher tat.
It’s three points or conditions actually.
I’m really angry now, what action can I take without getting up off my fat arse?
Write to HM Queen Elizabeth. Letters to patriotic newspapers and blogs. Try putting cards up in shop windows under ‘For Sale’ The UK is up for Grabs-Vote UKIP. Anything.
traditionally voting UKIP is the recognised way of being angry and doing nothing. Now try blaming everyone else for your problems and you can qualify as a party activist.
traditionally voting Tory is the recognised way of getting angry and at MPs changing nothing.
No Referendum, UKIP gets my vote.
has it anyway so why pretend you’re going to do anything else ? Acting precious just looks childish.
Put UK Gov on ebay.
There is a special political section.
Its already got the Dartford crossing and the Tote on it. Totes’s only got 2 bids. Worth a punt at £40.00.
There seems to be an old listing for a Buy-It-Now Peerage at £1,000,000.
I was a bit sceptical but the lister, Tony B’s superstore, has some great feedback.
Change channels?
Blow your television to bits with one massive fart
Postal vote fatarse?
Guido, surely it’s time to name and shame all the MPs who refuse to pay up. Let the people know just how grubby their elected representatives are!
Like I’ve said too many times already – SACK EM ALL NOW, as soon enough they’ll all be redundant when their fascist wet dream of an EU dictatorship becomes the reality they and their predecessors have all been striving for.
Like turkeys voting for Christmas, our so called “politicians” are voting for their own demise and that of the United Kingdom as a ‘nation state’.
I’ll be voting UKIP but that isn’t enough sadly, it’s the “permanent secretaries” and their ilk etc we need to be concerned about – they are the lackies and vassals of corporate fascist banksters behind the facade of demockery.
O/T Guido but your random rolling Rich ‘n mark ad seems to have taken rather a coprophiliac-flavoured turn – not got a touch of the Oatens, have you?
Seeing as they are all greedy little piggies they should be sent to the backwoods in the area seen in the film Deliverance and all made to face a gap-toothed hilly-billy. Squeal piggy, squeal.
On seconds thoughts, maybe not, some of them might enjoy it!
In Roman times pigs were trained to eat humans (starvation, then feeding them bits of recently dead humans), and following, corrupt politicians were tied to stakes and eaten by pigs, s an entrée for the crowds at the games before the gladiators came on.
We can learn a lot from the Romans. I would love to see the evil fascist thief, Gordon Brown, eaten by starving pigs.
One’s sympathy would be with the porker, of course,
John Prescott sucking Gordon’s toes.
Would make a wonderful theme for the Olympics Opening Ceremony – but it can’t wait for 2012.
That’s a bit odd? I wouldn’t like a bacon sarnie from one.
Mmm crackling!
just seen Guido on Channel 4 7pm news
he has put on weight over the conference break and got skin problems. Too much food and wine?
Was Mr Fawkes in his MIB outfit?
I thought it was a bin liner
Fat suit.
I would respectfully suggest that you are referring to jacqui smith or maybe gordon or possibly twatson.
I’ve seen guido on the tv over the last 24 hours and he doesn’t match your description but then he doesn’t get an mp’s allowance of £500 per month from the taxpayers to buy food and drink. He has to buy his own, like us.
It will be interesting to see the 2008/2009 unredacted mp’s accounts when they are published later this year, won’t it?
What’s the betting that the first half year accounts show some interesting serious troughing, and then as MP’s came to understand, which they did towards the end of of the financial year that public anger was going to be directed at them for their profligacy, the accounts become more circumspect. No more IKEA kitchens(gordon), fancy BBQ’s(philhope), hand-crafted furniture(militwit), building extensions(juliekirkbride) and on and on……..
I would respectfully suggest that you are referring to jacqui or maybe gordon or possibly twatson.
I’ve seen guido on the tv over the last 24 hours and he doesn’t match your description but then he doesn’t get an mp’s allowance of £500 per month from the taxpayers to buy food and drink. He has to buy his own, like us.
It will be interesting to see the 2008/2009 unredacted mp’s accounts when they are published later this year, won’t it?
What’s the betting that the first half year accounts show some interesting serious troughing, and then as MP’s came to understand, which they did towards the end of of the financial year that public anger was going to be directed at them for their profligacy, the accounts become more circumspect. No more IKEA kitchens(gordon), fancy BBQ’s(phope), hand-crafted furniture(militwit), building extensions(ms k+irkbr+ide) and on and on……..
Modded Twice!!
I didn’t say anything offensive or that wasn’t factual.
Modding on here’s got really tough!!
I agree
Maybe an ancestor of Guido’s had a run-in with Nell Gwynn. Something unpleasant involving the insertion of an orange, perhaps?
NOT THE COCAINE PIPE MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!
Has Sir Thomas Legg stuffed up?
His work has proved less than smooth. “What? I asked you to provide evidence of expenses before you even became an MP? Oh, ha, ha! What a silly billy I am! You can’t give me evidence of your mortgage claim? Oh! You never claimed, as you didn’t have a mortgage? Oops! Sorry! We asked you to pay back money for something you didn’t purchase? Ah. Sorry!”
And yet… and yet Jacqui of the heaving bosom is allowed to get away with a real fraud and just has to say “Sos” Won’t do it again. Honest!”?
Was he chosen because it was known what the result would be? A cock-up with the real troughers getting away almost Scot-free?
Well his defence may be that the Fees Office records he was working from were in a total mess.
Listening this AM to the Horrific Harpic (now completely round the bend) on Humphries R4, the idea that Jacboots should be held responsible for stealing taxpayers money was simply out of the question. Harpic wriggled, squirmed and twisted (as she does) but admit to any criticism of her sister, absolutely not. She, Jacspliff the failed schoolteacher’s assistant, is one of ours, a wimmin tribalist Liebour MP.
Socialism=rewards for all, no punishment fit for the crime
If anyone steals from the public purse they should be prosecuted,regardless of age,gender ,religion,sexual orientation,class etc.If a woman commits the same crime as a man she should get the same punishment. That is equality!!! but then again Harridan” Bitch” Harmsmen doesn’t believe in equality does she?
Good thing Humphreys made her squirm.Personally I would like to make her cry live in front of the entire (just because I can.)
Just because you and 23 of your brothers had the bed collapse on you don’t blame Cameron blame alkea
I’m going to enjoy thinking about how hard their lives are going to be in 2011… having to pay for everything, having to do their own cleaning, having to do their own gardening and missing out on the high life they’ve become used to.
“Things could only get better”, well next year, things will get a whole lot worse… their golden goodbyes won’t last long with inflation about to rip.
Link?
Too much blogging and not enough jogging,
Congestion Charge going UP to £ 10…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/davehillblog/2009/oct/13/boris-johnson-congestion-charge-ten-pounds
Arlo Guthrie said:
“Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
KILL, KILL.” And I started jumpin up and down yelling, “KILL, KILL,” and
he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down
yelling, “KILL, KILL.” And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me,
sent me down the hall, said, “You’re our boy.”
I can relate to that.
shoot the mp’s i say.
Just when I think that every last drop of piss has been extracted from my withered bladder they make Martin a Lord.
Talking of self-entitlement!!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1220125/Arise-Lord-Gorbals-Michael-Martin-sworn-peer.html
Here is gorbals mick being welcome to the HoL by Lord Falconer and Lord fookes. What very appropriate pals!!!!!
When is this gravy train hitting the buffers?
That’s the problem with septic tanks. The biggest chunks always rise to the top.
Just like Bliar and the rest of his ilk
I like to pop in here now and then, just to remind you guys I’m still at large. I just don’t like being forgotten!
saint baroness U – that socialist paragon of virtue, administering to the needs of her deprived , depraved London community, is living in her bangledeshi marble palace.
And the servants and cooks who live in hovels at the bottom of her garden in Bangladesh, in hovels are pampering to her needs.
How much would Caroline flint or Nadine dorries take in cash to let me have a sniff of their panties?
oooooooooooooerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
In the interests of fairness and democracy, does any one know how the Fabian Society is fully funded? There is no information on their website about how they are funded.
At least we have the information on how the Labour party is funded. We all know the unions bankroll them even though they don’t get any thing in return.
Happy Birthday to Baroness Thatcher! 84 years today! A grateful nation thanks you!
I hope she lives to see the country she loves so much and served so well freed once again from the tyranny of socialism.
And for giving the world Sir Mark
Not forgetting,
Cecil Porkinson. Did a Prescott. Shagged the hired help. At least Prescott had the sense to not impregnate the poor bitch,thereby avoiding difficult legal manouverings to keep her quiet.
Nick “nimby” Ridley.
Leon Brittan. Euro Trougher.
“Honest” Jeff Archer
Normo Tebbs. From Trade Minister,who privatised BT,then moved swiftly onto the board faster than shit off a shovel,as Mr Smith observes.
Willie “Short sharp shock” Whitelaw. That really had an impact,didn’t it?
David Amess. I’ll go anywhere for a seat.
Kieth Best. Remember him? Took advantage of Normo’s BT Get rich quick scheme.
The best is still John Stonehouse .
The Labour MP’s trial, on 21 charges of fraud, theft, forgery, conspiracy to defraud, causing a false police investigation and wasting police time lasted 68 days. Stonehouse conducted his own defence at the trial. He was convicted and sentenced to 7 years prison for fraud.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stonehouse
Nigel Lawson. Took the nation from bust to boom to bust in such a short space of time.
Alan Clarke. Always economical with the actuality of truth. Nice bloke.
Kieth Joseph. Even Broadmoor gave him a miss.
John Nott. Here today,gone tomorrow.
300 dead servicemen in the Falklands because of the small error of withdrawing RN prescence in the S Atlantic,thereby giving the mad Argies the idea that they could get away with invasion.
Selling off the nations assetts to fund tax cuts for Conservative money men.
Care in the community. Releasing every Tom,Dick and Nutter on to the street.
The end of “Society”. You know. Where you live. It’s dog eats dog. That sort of thinking.
And of course,her own greatest,self confessed achievement.
New Labour
Happy birthday to a great lady!
Didn’t hear too much snout sniffling or trotter wringing when they were bringing in retrospective taxes on cars, seemed like a great idea then. What goes around comes around porkers!!
No sympathy at all, not happy then resign; oops that principle has also been abandoned.
Good point. I knew there was a crazy scheme that they tried to implement that I had forgotten about. That was it. £600 a year for a Mondeo and £400 for a Focus.
[...] Guido reports on digusting developments in the expenses saga [...]
The rules as applied by Sir Thomas Legg in his audit of MPs expenses.
They seem fair enough to me.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6318196/MPs-expenses-how-Sir-Thomas-Legg-drew-up-new-rules-for-claims.html
Labour MPs smearing Legg and his integirty. We must not let him become another David Kelly.
Brown’s macho stance of ‘Pay up! Or else I’ll… I’ll…’ – whatever – is bound to blow up in his face as well. Most have nothing to lose now except that troughed stash they’ve squirreled away. Dave’s Gov-in-waiting would probably grate their own tongues if they thought it would secure them a few more votes.
fuck em , we must protest and fuck the permit or whatever , THE HOUSE NEEDS CLEANING
Right on man!, now yer jiving!
It was’nae me ye un’stn – but like arl’ ma kind, – ah’m init fae the muny
Just heard Bill Etherington (?) Lab M.P. for Sunderland sounding like gazza after he was booked in Euro 96 or like a 6 year old that just had his icecream swiped by a big bully in the school playground. Its so unfair , blub! blub! Bwaaah! Bwaaah! ah divent want to pay me expenses back, sniff!.
Labour troughing = bad
Liberl troughing = bad
Tory troughing = good
The real nell says it is time for the balls family, and julie and gorbals mick and all those troughing mp’s and ministers to be consigned to the dustbin.
There is a saying ” cometh the day – cometh the man”
Well gordon and his labour crew have proved, beyond doubt, that they are not, ‘that man’
Let’s think about this! Is mandy or militwit or shaihmlk or twatson, or aintbustingagut, or kevan, or jacqui, or alastaird or jack the straw or postmanpat, or edb, or……………????? going to lead labour to their next victory???
Gorbals mick consigned to the dustbin?
The Lords is a very comfortable dustbin.
For now!!
But next year that dustbin may become a cesspit that he wished he had avoided.
Why?
third time lucky,i hope.
Why?
Check out this Sky News video of Adam Boulton interviewing Brown at the G20. Scroll to 02:35. Did he know what was coming?
http://news.sky.com/skynews/video?videoSourceID=2045390
YES, YOU GORDON!
Who me?, where my lips moving again. C’mon its only £12 thousand, barely enough cover the cost of a cleaner for 2 years (illegal of course, £3.50 an hour).
Lets be clear, they are all very rich men and women they have been asked to pay small change. Money they have taken from me and you. They must give it back!
You are having a laugh,surely.
O.K. they don’t like it, venal lot that they are, but you’d think they would at least have the good grace to shut-up and pay-up especially in the light of the real economic hardships they have inflicted upon the majority of the rest of the population.
Oh, you innocent thing.
Just before Brown sells off the channel tunnel link he has bought enough tickets to get his cabnet to Brussels, just wish they would fill in the hole once they are through!
There’s no way I’m going on a train at 200mph.
What a great bit of British engineering! Who actually built these trains?
Just before Brown sells off the channel tunnel link he has bought enough tickets to get his cabnet to Brussels, just wish they would fill in the hole once they are through!Oh and don’t leave without paying your gardening fees back!
sell pravda
Hi darlings,
I’m gay.
Fuck off Tat.
Actually, if I’m being honest, I’m gay too!
Let’s get a room gayboy.
Tat, what part of fuck and off don’t you understand creepo?
What’s all this bleating about retrospection? I don’t remember these squealing MPs worrying about that when they dreamt up the Child Support Agency.
And no, I have never been contacted by the CSA, and probably never will be. I’m just enjoying watching these thieving hypocrites getting a dose of their own medicine; bunch of cυnts.
Does that fat c’unt Dale charge by the minute? Another quick earner for spouting old bollocks on sky.
Fuck me, they’re talking like they’re doing us a favour now.
Is that right that Gorbals Mick is now Baron Spring Heel Jack.
Then I noticed the last line so it can’t be true:
“At least two people claimed that he was able to speak comprehensible English.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Heeled_Jack
No, looks like I go to bed still in despair, Sunlight centre have only raised 13k towards 100k need to prosecute the porker
Why can’t Legg come out and tell us what he has found!! see http://prologue.squarespace.com/
What a wankstain that Paxman is.
What a pathetic performance on Newsnight.
Well like Brillo and all the others he is controlled by his masters.Unlike our Politicians.
Let me be the first here to propose Sir Thomas Legg to be the next special
“Knight of the Garter”
I second that. I am sure the Queen will give him the garterahead of Tony Blair. Bliar has had to wait longer than most former long-serving Prime Ministers for that award, probably an indication of what her Majesty think of Anthony Linton Blair.
Noticable that in these difficult times of “Transparancy” and “Trust” in politics,both Brown and Cameron are willing to take the in depth,tough grilling that only GMTV can provide.
Widdecombe said: “If any other employer did this, he would be up before a tribunal.”
She fails to mention that if any any employer let their employees propose and approve their own remuneration, the proprietor would sack them on the spot.
All else being equal etc
They just don’t get it – still!
As an expatriate pensioner couple, we live on the magnificent total, after tax, (yes I do pay tax ), of around or just under, £14,000 per annum.
We are lucky compared with some, I know, but the average MP has no idea whatsoever how very many of their fellow citizens live.
It is this complete ignorance, at a practical level, which makes those of us “just getting by” so damned furious at the greedy swine who sit in their ivory tower, grabbing all they can – all paid for by we “ordinary” people.
The media are discussing injunctions, super-injunctions, attacks on free speech, and Carter-Ruck.
Q: What one example involving all four is not mentioned by anyone in the media, despite it relating to the biggest selling news story of the 21st century?
A: The McCanns, whose lawyers Carter-Ruck have been mounting a campaign of legal intimidation to close down website after website and silence Goncalo Amaral.
Strange that, isn’t it?
Well Guido just watched Newsnight you didn’t get a mention even after all your sterling service on Trafigura! Twitter got the accolade.
Guido could bring world peace, invent a repacement for oil – even find Maddy McCann – but the BBC will never give him credit because he bolloxed up their Labour friends’ Downing St Smear Appartus and showed up BBC shortcomings..
I didn’t nick nuffing,and anyway i’m paying it back.
Listening to the porkers squeal makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
Natascha Engel on Radio 5 this morning:
“This is very unhelpful. We need to move on and start talking about something else.”
You wish.
But you will certainly be moving on, next May.
The newsnight debate/report on this last night was fucking pathetic.
Nobody bothered to point out that such things were perks and not expenses, which in itself is tax fraud, and that the MPs are lucky not to be in prison for that act alone.
Or that the “retrospective” argument was invalid as the superceding rule was “only directly relevant to your job” so the MPs are lucky not to be asked for a full refund instead of just above a given ceiling.
Any MP who’s moaning about this should pay up right now, and breath a sigh of relief and be immensely thankful for not being put in prison.
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