Rich & Mark’s Monday Morning View
LOL-Factor | Harry Cole
Goodwife Brooks Gossiped With the Devil | Standard
Barker: Mad Ministerial Microwaver of Dog Cushions | Scrapbook
Being the ‘Yes’ Man of Europe Has Got Ireland Nowhere | Irish Times
The Battle of 1922 | James Lansdale
Lurch to the Left? | Kirsty Walker
Greek Depositors Withdrew €700 Million Monday | Wall Street Journal
Macrory Off | PR Week
Adam Smith to Testify | Guardian
Britain is Conning the Bond Market | Speccie
SOAS and “Typical Israelis” | The Commentator
Re-moding | Dot Commons
The 1922 Voting Calculations of a Tory MP | Paul Goodman
Irish Referendum – ‘Yes’ is ‘Ticket for Titanic’ | Irish Indy
Lack of Accountability of Anonymous Spokesman | Boing Boing
Simon Hughes Riding Trucker | Crash Bang Wallace
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Gobby livens up the Brooks’ press conference:
“Have you had any messages of support from the Prime Minister?”
The last Quango in Paris says:
Mr Bryant and Mr Watson managing to make the whole hacking affair look like a farce – the more they moan the less I care about the whole subject! So partisan it beggars belief at all costs. They cannot rise above it ! If I was to call the PM a ‘liar’ I would want to be VERY sure.
Who The Fuck Is That ?
Good question.
It looks like a mash-up of Brown, Blair and Marr.
And Napoleon.
with Prince Charles’ ears ?
By the way. If Blair thinks he’s going to be EU president then I can guarantee that somewhere there is a Frenchman who will be proving him wrong.
Whatever deal Blair thinks he has will be reneged upon as surely as the French planted one of their guys at the head of the ECB when I seem to recall a Dutch guy was the one they’d all thought they’d agreed on.
Those are Marr’s ears.
The French had invested a small fortune in Saddam’s Iraq which is worth a bag of sweeties now. They’ll not forget Blair’s pivotal role.
This is disgusting toilet humour and I find it only makes the posts harder to read.
Points against Emperor Tone1.
1. Warmonger: the Europeans do not want another war at any price.
2. Anglo-Saxon financial Model: the Landesbank bought AAA rated derivatives from London and New York.
3. Godown Brownstuff: Bliar made Doom the boss of this shite and them imposed the loonie upon United Condom. The leaders of Europe have been forced to deal with Loonie face to face!
How would you feel if somebody had introduced the King of Charm, Gordoom into your social circle.
4. Fucking Horrible Wife.
Empress Slotty lording it over Carla and everybody else’s wife!
Serious earache from wives!
Points for.
1. International figure who knows everybody.
This job is Sarko’s. He might let Tone do it for a while, but not for too long.
Whatever way it falls we now have The Holy Brussels Empire with our glorious national leaders as the Prince Electors.
I assumed that it was Charles E Hardwidge on his return from holiday, and a very good likeness, well done Skid and Mark
As one Guido to another, I feel sorry for you Mr Fawkes.
Ken Clarke
More like Charles Clarke’s ears.
It’s a rubbish picture of Nelson who had his arm in plaster and an eyepatch.
Guido Fawkes aka Pau1 Stainez
Doesn’t look a bit like Blair – though it looks vile enough! Insult to Nelson, has brown’s gammy eye, Obama’s ears (although he has got huge ears), and a Napoleonic type of hat. A complete mish mash! Can’t we have a GOOD cartoonist? There are plenty of them about, viz Private Eye!
Contessa, that is very cruel. Are you an oil painting yourself ? I don’t mind admitting I am un ugly bastard.
The filename is “blair.jpg”, so I guess that’s your answer.
You’d never know!
Mega LOLZ. This really is unrecognisable!! Time for a new cartoonist me thinks. ….oh hang on…. it’s supposed to be president elect blair dressed up as a masturbating Napoleon (an emperor). How hilarious…
Look, dictatorships are groovy as long as the dictator is an OK kind of Guy.
Will he have to recite stories now about ‘Citroen man’ ?
Not tonight, Cherie!
‘You were the future once’
Hi Tony,
Will Peter carry on propping Gordon up after you are appointed? Have you got a nice number lined up for him as a reward for helping Gordon stagger on until you got the job. Nice work.
Mandelson, for his treachery, will get the EU Foreign Secretary role (not quite the right title but basically that job spec).
Where the hell do you think he got that watch!
From some grateful Siberian.
He’d better have.
Once the new age gets going youll all have God Emperors
It’s not just a european president, there will also be a high representative for common foreign and security policy.
Reminds me of Christopher Eccleston but obviously more appropriate as Blair.
A good question – Cap’n Birds Eye perhaps??
It’ll never happen. Take up the rallying cry – “No white flag at Lisbon!”
Looks like the scouse git Tony Woodley
I thought it was a bloody Ferengi from Deep Space 9.
Harriet after the HRT
O/T but very important! Please sign this petition to back President Vaclav Klaus of the Czech Republic’s brave stand against the Lisbon Treaty:
http://www.petitiononline.com/sptklaus/petition.html
Let’s get a MILLION signatures.
Is It Andrew Marr In Fancydress ?
He could make his dress into a veil by hanging the shoulder straps from his ears
Who put dat feckin’ dog’s mickey in a sailor suit?
Barry Humphries?
Vee did nott like your first answer, so vee vill ask you vonce more. Vould you like to join us in Europe or vould you prefer bankruptcy?
Is It Nelson Without His Eye Patch ?
It’s Saint Blair before he got spunked in the eye by Europe, hence no eyepatch (yet)
Blair trying to look like gorgon in Napoleon’s hat.
How the fuck are we supposed to learn 27 foreign languages by next year?
No Need Mate We Will All Be Speaking German This Time Next Year !
at least you’ll have one language by then.
Noo achaye than noo
Gehoochhhhhhaaaa!
Eine Sprache, ein Volk, ein Praesident ?
I’m already fluent in bi-polar.
So am I
I always have been. Well, when I’m not all crusty white down there anyway.
Dont worry dude, all of europe will soon need to learn Chineese, think of it like esperanto for the new world order.
The Irish have just voted to been rogered senseless by Blair.
I will puke if Blair is made Napoleon for the whole of Europe
The Irish are not stupid – they wanted to make sure they didn’t have to vote a third time.
… for a turd time, you mean ?
Well, they will NEVER have to vote on another EU treaty ever again now. Neither will anyone else. When the next treaty suggests the closure of National parliaments, we will not have the power to object.
Well, we won’t be able to sort Europe out, especially as by then we won’t have Trident to retaliate against Brussels.
To be sure, to be sure, to be sure
The Irish are not stupid
Actually, the Irish are universally renowned for their stupidity, something reinforced by their doltish volte-face on the referendum. The Irish are too stupid even to make up their minds on the simple question of whether they accept or reject the European Constitutional Treaty.
Can someone explain to me, if the Irish have already voted NO, why are they having to vote again
Wrong answer to the question!
They would have to vote until they gave the correct question. Again, and again.
The French and the Dutch also voted NO. Didn’t make a difference at all.
At least when the Germans take over Europe, we won’t get any trains running late!
Blair will be the first President, followed closely by a Frenchie. Real closely, after all our rights have been signed away forever.
Euro currency here we come!
They Have To Be Sure To Be Sure
Yes, this is the true irony – the Irish have just voted to have a British President – one the British themselves don’t want!
You can’t blame the bogtrotters. They realised that they are chumped without EUgravy. When our money started to flow to the new boys in the East instead of their way, the “Celtic Tiger” became a mangey old cat.
That makes them a nation of whores
Not so much a nation, more of a collection of EU regions.
Oh look its Dave’s new boss.
it’s hilarious because it’s sadly true
Well Done “Skid and Mark” Your Worst One Yet !
Not sure why it shows Blair playing with himself when he’s been screwing us for the last 12 years.
Ah yes – but while he’s wanking too.
British: Austin, Morris, Vanden Plas, Wolsey, Riley, MG & Rover, forever gone. Jaguar-Land Rover owned by TATA motors of India.
German: BMW, Rolls Royce Motors, Bentley, Mercedes, Porsche, Audi, Volkswagen, Siemens, Man Turbo, Man Bus & Trucks, Liebherr, Bosch et al, all alive and kicking.
French: Citroen, Peugeot, Renault, 320 km/h Société Nationale des Chemins de Fer, Electricité De France now responsible for the UK nuclear electricity.
The German word “Gleichschaltung” is used in a political sense to describe the process by which the Nazi regime successively established a system of totalitarian control over the individual, and tight coordination over all aspects of society and commerce.
Modern Germany have succeeded peacefully where Hitler, at a cost of 70 milion lives failed. Britain didn’t win the second world war, France & Germany did and are now rubbing our noses well and truly in it.
Making Blair the President of the German Gleichschaltung would simply rub Himalayan edible salt into the wound.
That Himalayan salt is bloody expensive.
Even the fucking “Made in England” labels are made in China.
There ain’t no ‘Made in England’ labels anymore, the bastards banned them. It’s all ‘Made in the EU’ now.
“We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight them on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.”
The labour party did surrender though and dragged us all down with them.
Also the Lib Dems & Torys.
Sadly, true.
Referendum or Riot.
Vote UKIP.
You don’t say much about French stuff there. Their car industry is in crisis.
And all the things you’ve mentioned get massive subsidies. Do you long for the good old days of Britain in the 1970s?
Having said all that the 125 was a damn good train.
true. The French have bet everything on electric cars produced by Renault and Peugeot and powered by nuclear generation. Once the Global Warming scam is fully exposed the bottom falls out of these £30k mickey mouse cars – goodbye French car industry and what’s left of its industrial base.
The Germans and their like, the Dutch, Austrians, Swiss and Nordics will continue to be and are the industrial powerhouse of Europe.
I would expect them 30K cars to come down in price with mass production. And France has so much spare electrical capacity they’ll cost bugger all to run.
It then becomes an issue of reliability an maintenance costs. But if I could pay (say) 15K for a car that cost fuck all in fuel and lasted at least as long as a petrol car then I’d be interested. It would probably pay for itself in five or six years.
I think the problem is that basically the amount of money you save in fuel is equal to the cost of completely replacing your batteries every 12K miles. So no saving at all.
They will come down in price over the next few years and range/performance will increase. As far as reliability goes, there’s only one moving part in an electric motor, compared to thousands in a combustion engine/clutch/gearbox.
I know about the more reliable motor argument. It’s the batteries that are the problem innit. Cost, weight, replacement.
Oh that’s alright then unless you work for the thousands of service stations, garages and spare parts suppliers who spend their wages in your bakers, florists, computer stores, etc
I’d be more worried about range.
Oh and Mr shwartzporche, thats broken windows economics.
I’m old enough to remember the last of the wolsleys, and even up to the mid 80′s I seem to rember cars breaking down and needing to be fixed all the bloody time. So are we better off or worse off since cars became dramatically more reliable about 20-25 years ago? (unless you were daft enough to buy a renault perhaps).
Tim Cunliffe-It was a fair point and you make yours. Seriously we do have to consider employment. What would really happen if there was no crime and vehicles had anti-crash prevention technologies, etc. Answer without alternative employment=more unemployment less salary to go round and round. Do tesco’s really employ more people than the previous myriad of High Street specialists? As on ‘cars’ that is my field and has been for 30 years and continues with new technology of the type I describe.
Electric cars only shift the carbon generation. What we need are the hydrogen cars. Better range better reliability, refueled in the same tome as petrol cars ( not 5 hours to re-charge batteries ) and these cars also produce enough electricity to power your home too.
Shwartzporche. Do you know all about “broken window economics”?
Clearly doesn’t, Tin. The thing about your broken window economics is that it gives work to those who might otherwise be unemployable, so they are kept off the streets and are engaged in society. In an ideal world they might be doing something useful, making stuff for export for instance, and our economy would not be so dependent on the City, but that seems a long long way away.
Mongrel- I see your point about broken window economics but I think that you have missed mine: If you improve to such an extent, whether by automation or reliability, then there can’t be people employed to sustain themselves, their ambitions of betterment nor the wider economy. That was my point about replacing cars with electric cars which may well have simple non- servicable motor. Further more; improvements were recognised in crap cars of the 70′s and made good by people who had the benefit of repairing them.-Giving further opportunities for disenfranchised businesses to start up on the back of that need. Another example: If there was no crime we wouldn’t need locksmiths, alarms, insurance, glaziers, stolen product replacement and police. lets all retire and do nothing is the unrealistic alternative.
No worries, we’re going to run our cars on wind and wave power according to Millitwit (involves a 60 ft. concrete dam across the Severn Estuary and one 180 ft. wind turbine every square kilometer of the country).
That is if there’s any left over from whatever industry and agriculture (we have left’s) requirements, domestic heating and cooking, trains and whether or not the wind’s blowing.
The only sane voice in this green soup of bollocks, was Prof. David McKay (http://www.withouthotair.com/) but they made him a government advisor last week to shut him up.
It’s a better way than Dr David kelly’s promotion
You’re dying to tell me. Go on please.
look on the bright side mate, your shit houses are going up in price at £56/day(D.Express) and your young people have worse English than foreign students(Prof at Imperial, on spelling, grammar, puctuation of Brits v J.Foreigner).
Face it mate, it’s got nothing to with ‘Two Wars, One World Cup’ and other shite, you were always shit, going back centuries, Francis Drake et al, as pirates, plundering Spanish gold; rum, sodomy and the lash, keeping you violent retards in line in the ‘Royal’ Navy and your ‘wealth’ was down to Amsterdam money changers setting up shop as a base for their criminal cabal in London in the late 1600s.
You neatly leapfrogged the British Empire (which kicked off with the subjugation of the Scotch) – the greatest and most benign Empire the World has ever known.
The Scotch were forced to join the British Empire thanks to their bankrupting themselves in the Darien Adventure (look it up).
The nation that was actually subjugated was Ireland – at which point the British Empire really took off. The rot set in when Ireland left.
Ireland. The Alpha and Omega of the British Empire.
yeah, and the Black and Tans were social workers.
Fenian head cracking heroes they was.
the British Empire (which kicked off with the subjugation of the Scotch)
You slept through history class at school, didn’t you? (Assuming you even went to school. You were probably too busy sniffing glue and getting your sister pregnant to bother with any of that edumucation malarkey.)
jockoe alert
So where are you from, Dr Dave, so we can understand how you came by your innate racial superiority?
As I’ve been saying for half my life, we’ve been waging WWIII for 30 years now and we’ve just given up.
OK at military war, no good at commercial war.
Sad.
Singapore?
they might be the only ones to find the thought of President Blair funny
I seem to remember Hague having a bit of a laugh at Brown’s expense on this very subject.
The great thing about Hague’s speech on the subject was that, as McMental wasn’t in the House, even the Labour front bench were pissing themselves.
Looks like that bloke on TV flogging insurance.
You know the crew 25% off any figure I care to come up with!
Boner Blair?
Obviously the picture shows “Blair boney-pat”! (think about what he;s doing in the picture)
I give in. Who’s it supposed to be?
I hope that Guido is not paying for these ‘cartoons’.
It is that well known blogger Carles E Ardwidge, and a very good likeness
That being the case Guido’s money is well spent.
Now we know just what the world’s greatest blogger looks like. Perhaps I will be able to claim my £5 when I see him in the flesh…
Josephine Slotgob should be next to him.
You know who else is going to be at Napoleon’s side……… bloody Mandelson and Miliband (that is why they have propped up Brown).
I don’t think I can take New Labour running Europe – it is the ultimate sick joke
Exactly why MiniGland has been sucking the shit out of blairs ass for all these years….nice little job for him on Eurograytrain eh?
What an absolute vagina.
good the guillotine for her then.
If that “thing” becomes President, I am going to drink lemonade, secretly, in the US.
but only after they kick Barry O out
Its The Judge Off Strictly Come dancing !
These cartoons make Mondays the real low point of the blog.
Blair won’t get the job.Merkel and Sarkozy will at least try to bring Cameron “on side”and they will know that appointing Blair would make any attempt impossible.
That top job has Berlusconi’s name on it.
We have wards, councillors, county-councillors, 750 Westminster MPs, Scottish Parliament, Welsh & Northern Ireland Assembly, god knows how many in the EU gravy bowl and on top of all this next year a federal United States of Europe.
Mountains upon mountains of bureaucracy and all for what? to get my wheelie bin emptied once a week.
And in the mean time back at the Happy Farm, Brown off to see the Wizard of Oz wandering down the yellow brick road to UK oblivion handing out to die-hard fans crisp new £20 notes with the ink still wet from the BOE printing presses.
Bloody hell Ingloriioous you are going it a bit this morning, oh well here goes if its going to be a fight for crown nutter…!
The Invisible Cloak Of Credibility.
G Brown happily wrapped this already threadbare article around himself the day he assumed office at number 10. Many before some justifiably, content in its ability to cover and hide the truth of irrelevance of those that take high office and claim to govern on behalf of the British people.
Those that seek to persuade the voter that the disastrous costly mistakes of those that went before, is, nothing to do with him, his party or their ideas.
Ever the cry of the failed scheme the incompetent the liar the cheat, is a fresh start, a new leaf, another chance, and of course jam tomorrow.
The cloak stained with the blood of brave, the sweat of financially overburdened, and the ink of the press, lay once more upon the dirt, its power of credibility long since spent.
Another now seeks to use its dubious powers.
Well yes I know I have not earned your trust, do not possess a CV, nor have any proven experience in the job whatsoever. But! I have a plan. I intend to make it up as I go along, cut my experience along the way at your expense. Just view it as on the job training, and of course if I’m no good you can always sack me at the next election, but I and my mates will be richer than Croesus by then so Nah nah, na nah Narrrr.
Same old story same old cloak!
You get your wheelie bin emptied once a week?, lucky bastard, they are out on strike where I am, the Rats are having a Beano!
Bins emptied once a week, pure luxury!
Now they want to issue half size bins to help re-cycling.
The fine for a bin transgression is higher than stealing from a shop.
But our Local Council management need gold plated Pensions. Don’t they?
My council is financially broke like everything else in this Country now, they are desperately trying to save money by cutting front line services so they can still, as you say, service the pension commitments for all the shiny suits, I think it is now something like £1 in every £4 paid in council tax goes to their pension provisions pot.
I’m not surprised that local councils are financially broke.Just read in the ES that two London boroughs paying out £366,000 for two families on HOUSING BENEFIT.They have large families (so most probably not British)They have become accustomed to living in areas like Camdem where housing is expensive.However local letting agents say that even though rents in that area are high the rent charged to council are grossly over-inflated. Why should people on benefits get houses that cost £2,000 PER WEEK???.This is absolutely scandalous and should be stopped immediately.What are the tossers at the council thinking of?So,we have people living in areas like Notting Hill,Kensington and Chelsea,Camdem and Richmond living in over-priced, luxurious properties. You poor old council taxpayers….They can’t move them to cheaper boroughs like Dagenham because I understand Nu-Liebor brought out some kind of ruling that people should be allowed to stay in the London borough where they have always lived??????
same here, but mine’s been emptied two weeks running. Mind you, I do have a councillor living on my street.
If that is B’Liar, what is he doing with his right hand, the leader of the Roman Catholic Church would not be very pleased if he doing what I think he is doing, the face looks a bit like a cross between B’Liar’s and Maggie Thatcher’s puppet in spitting image, very frightening, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
If he doesn’t get to be President of Europe, I reckon he’ll put in a bid to be Pope after that German feller, Benedict.
New-Labour > New-Pope! Pope Tony 1st?. Guido’s Catholic, he’ll know if there have been earlier Pope Anthonys. A few preliminaries to be got through first… but with Mandy at his side as Lord High Facilitator… Who can gainsay the possibility?
Nar B’Liar is married (mind the first popes were married, yes I know the first ‘pope’ Peter, was married @ there were various bonking popes ie Alexander VI) Mandypooh is Jewish or Jewish extraction so that is out. Mind they do have a habit of altering varying unchangeable rules when it suits them.
I believe there is a precedent for a person of Semitic origin to head up the Christian Church. Look above any altar or in any New Testament for details. In many ways, I’m better qualified to be Pope than Tony is.
Mandy’s DAD was Jewish: to be Jewish you need your mum to be Jewish. Anyway, I bet he’s a decent atheist like me.
Not if you unorthodox, only the orthodox consider themselves to be racialy pure and stick to that rule, historically if they read back there are many instances where gentiles becomes Jews even king David via Ruth.
Yes he’s maybe going for the President of Europe job while waiting for a Pope vacancy, then after that he may arrange a new post of “President of the World” and finally he may be planning eventually to just go for it and apply to be God.
Meanwhile back at the ranch,
The way for Cameron to secure a massive majority AND kick the legs from under the eurotrash collaborators is to promise a referendum IF the treaty has NOT been ratified when/if he is elected BUT if the treaty has been ratified before he is elected then he could promise the nuclear option to the UK voter and that is?
A full referendum on EU membership!
Can you imagine the consternation in Brussels and from the eurotrash quislings here in the UK?
Cameron would be in the fantastic position of being seen to offer a POSITIVE package to the electorate by stating that they would offer the voter something that has been denied to them for decades and the eurotrash would be forced to offer a wholly NEGATIVE package consisting of denying the voter a chance for the long denied vote on federal integration.
The eurotrash would be in turmoil and caught on the back foot, they would have to offer massive concessions to Cameron if he announced the above policy straight away.
Federal intergration ! They all want to live here !
I am afraid it is too late for that.
Armed insurgency leading to civil war is the logical response & conclusion to the anti democratic shenanigans from Brussels.
Mark my words – there is trouble ahead – you can’t steal a country without consequences.
Yes, there is trouble ahead alright and they know it. They knew it would come one day, hence the Civil Contingencies Act. But the day is not yet here. I reckon it will come next year some time (most likely) or the year after. Austerity is looming. There will be savage cuts and huge job losses. It’s inevitable, as is the fallout. There will be rioting in the streets, but the protesters won’t have a common purpose this time around, unlike in the 1980s. There will be conflicting interest groups, but the politicians will be their target. It will be fascinating to watch. A lot of skulls are going to get smashed in. The poll tax riots of 1991 will be nothing compared to what’s coming.
“Armed insurgency” ! er hate to point it out but here in the uk no one has firearms but farmers/police/criminals all do well out of Europe ! best us poor folk can do is a few air guns, not much use against a G-36 assault rifle!.
agree
The whole negative weight of the EU would then fall apon the Tories but maybe it would be worth it. We would get a vote on this is the point. I actually want a NO but if it turned out the result fairly done was YES then I would accept that so long as I had the chance to voice an opinion.
The vote would show a resounding NO which is why they refuse to give us one. One of the main contributors to the EU saying NO would never be allowed.
Now Bliar has given back our vetos and refunds even more so.
This has been in the making for years and an iron curtain is starting to fall on Europe.
“he is poised to abandon the referendum if the treaty is ratified – a move guaranteed to enrage the Tory Right.”
Don’t worry mate, the whole country will be up in arms if he reneges on his promises! There has been talk of unrest and insurrection regarding the falsity and downright lying of politicians generally, and I suppose it is only to be expected that this cretin will do the same.
Where the hell is the next Guido Fawkes???
- Kathab, Oxford, UK, 5/10/2009 7:41
Read more: http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1218128/Dithering-Cameron-urged-speak-Europe-Tories-divide-referendum.html#comments#ixzz0T38X4zP1
Go ahead Pawkesporsche, try and stir up a riot in your own tea cup. Pathetic.
That was a quote from the Mail on-line you fuckwit. I do have an agenda which is clear. What’s yours? Keep taking the sit at home public salary.
So your plan is to piss on the graves of 70 million war dead and cravenly accept dictator Bliar?
Face it, the “mainstream” media and “mainstream” politicians have lied their arses off for decades about a federal EU dictatorship. They called anyone that saw this coming, “little englanders” and “extremists”.
They cannot deny the truth anymore and now we wait to see what (if anything) Cameron can do about it.
If he cravenly accepts it too, then it will be time for the pissed off majority in this country to unite, for once, and vote out ALL the traitors at once.
Mr Ned. what are you accusing me of? I merely posted a comment from the Mail. thepoint being we had fought for freedom and the commentator was suggesting we may need to do that again. Or maybe folk are saying we’ve lost enough already and should capitulate this time?
That would work if Macaroon was not one of the Eurotrash brigade!
Cameron could only make progress if he articulated a strong, positive alternative to the EU as it is currently forced upon us. Many, if not most, agree that there are benefits to the EU but object to the lack of democracy, the blatant fraud, self serving functionaries, the arbitrary application of petty regulations and stifling of dissent. The good does not outweigh the bad, and you can die of being force fed the finest food.
The EU project has more in common with China and Russia than the USA or India. It is telling that the EU is not seen as one of the great democracies of the world.
I am sure that there would be broad support amongst the Nordic and East European countries for a sensible pairing back of the the EU to focus on trade issues – perhaps even Germany after the recent election results. The EU needs a new direction, and someone needs to articulate and provide leadership.
I suggeset that you read some of Thatchers speeches from the second have of the 1970′s. Even if you don’t agree with everything she said, she laid out her case for change underpinned by a philosophical argument. Every criticism of the then Labour government was based on a coherent and rational opinion. The bitch fight that goes for politics today is an obscenity.
The EU project is a potentially worthy cause built on a flawed foundation of dictorial arrogance combined with the back room deals, stifling of dissent through the arbitrary application of unjust and immoral laws and bribary with our own money.
Treat the voters with respect – they may even surprise you with their willingness to accept change rather than have it forced upon them in a not-so-subtle attempt to create a political system that is controlled in perpetuity by unelected self appointed functionaries.
The “this far and no further” ship sails with Lisbon. After Lisbon, the people of the EU, will NEVER be consulted about further integration ever again. They want their federal dictatorship and they are right on the cusp of achieving it.
Wooly talk of pragmatic, which bits can we negotiate on are irrelevant now. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT OPTION.
We are faced with a simple, stark choice. All the way into a fully federal EU dictatorship. Or all the way out!
Labour never wanted “in Europe not run by Europe”. They want a federal Europe dictatorship. That is why we stand today on the cusp of such a reality. Post final Lisbon ratification. “in Europe but not run by Europe” will not be an option. We either get out, or we are forced by the terms of that treaty to comply with ALL their further steps of integration, no matter how extreme. Lisbon gives the EU dictatorship the power to grant themselves infinate power unapposed in the future.
And there will be plenty of little Nazis willing to take the pieces of silver to enforce. We know from our own townhall facist commandants and their imposing ways on us under constant threat of fines and imprisonment.
There are plenty of people in this country who can and will abuse any position of authority without hesitation.
A case in point is the Tesco checkout operative who refused to sell a packet of teaspoons to someone because they could not prove they were over 18.
England is very close to emulating the mistakes of Germany in the 1930s.
And we save £40m a day….
C King. erm, so what happens to the massive loss to british businesses due to tie ins with current EU laws when we pull out then. Some people just don’t live in the real world.
I’m all for BOO, but ffs idiotic comment like yrs just do the tory plan a massive disservice.
we will get what britain wants out the EU in time, but for now all this stupidity is costing us the chance to get the power to change this.
A referendum after its been ratified by all states is bollocks. brown signed us up, so we have to make do. IF cam gets in BEFORE its ratified then he’ll offer the chance to throw a monkey wrench in the EU plan.
but it will massively damage British business if we ‘pull out’ or thow our toys out the pram by threatening a referendum POST ratification (cos that’ll just won’t work anyway and we’ll lose any chance to effect any post ratification proccesses)
With the new party we’ve signed up for we have a real chance to effect changes from within and give FURTHER weight to our threat to withdraw in a gradual process like The Plan.
Thats what the irish voted for. My decision is still no because I realise what british business is capable of doing around the world with the current deadweight of regulation and I fully anticipate british business will exceed well of that without the EU interference around the world let alone dealing within UK.
We have no chance of changing things from within.
We have tried and failed to do that for years; that argument has been decisively lost.
Too true Moley!
I do not buy the old cannard about UK industry suffering if the UK makes waves and sticks up for itself, sometimes people amaze and sadden me by their kneejerk cowardly ‘oooh lets not stir up the bully, he might leave us alone and pick on someone else’.
The EU needs our trade MORE than we need their federal superstate, its as simple as that isnt it?
We are(or used to be) a world trading nation, for us to look inward and give up our independence to people who dont even speak our tongue would be crazy BUT if the majority want to be a part of a federal superstate then OK, but I want the vote, we all want the choice.
OT but I am delighted to see this morning (in the Mail) that the Tories are shopping some of the BBC’s top Labour luvvies to the tax man on IR35 grounds.
Lets see how supportive they will be of Brown after THEY have endured a ruthless investigation by HMRC’s Compliance Inspectors and been presented with a huge bill. Backdated for 6 years of course. Plus penalties and interest.
Wont happen.
They are the ruling media elite, twin cheeks of the same arse as the ruling political elite.
Smash the EU state.
Unfortunately you may be right. A blind eye has been turned for the last 9 years.
Still, we can hope. Paxman’s bill would be about £2m I reckon. See how smug the fucker is then.
I bet Clarkson is in the frame too.
He ain’t exactly a fan of Brown as it is.
As I understand it, many of the top BBC presenters have clauses in their contract forbidding them from working from anyone else. Under a contract such as that, if they are operating through a service company they are most definitely caught by IR35.
Polly might be in the frame too.
I can well believe she’ll have set up a one woman company which, coincidentally, derives a massive percentage of its earnings from one ‘contractor’.
She may yet get the opportunity to redistribute several years back taxes.
That would be particularly sweet. It would provide her with a nice opportunity to put her money where her mouth is.
Yes I’ll think you will find the IR35 was only designed to screw the little man,
W.W.
IR 35 was one of the most pernicious peices of legislation ever and caused real hardship to guys, particularly in the software and onshore oil support industries in Aberdeen , who had been forced to go self employed .
Its particularly satisfying to see beeboid luvvies , who were such nulab cheer leaders , being stuffed by the same legislation – who knows, perhaps it will lead to all the bbc jobs being outsourced to Bangalore, the way that programming jobs were !
pukka!
Pies?
There was a case a couple of years ago of a freelance draughtsman who worked in the oil and gas industry. HMRC came after him on IR35 grounds. The tax bill would have cost him his home, so he appealed. The stress caused the poor sod to have a heart attack. Did the tax man show any mercy? Did he fuck – the Commissioner’s meeting was held in the guy’s bedroom as he lay sick in bed. And they found him ‘guilty’.
This is a policy supported by the BBC luvvies, Polly Toynbee and others. Only fair that they should receive the same treatment.
Ward 451 Broadmoor.
“I saved the world, you know. Barack, you’re my best mate. Have another we pill, what are youse looking at yer foockin scunner.”
“Time for you medicine, Mr Brown.”
Eh? Is it supposed to be Blair?
I normally find Rich & Mark funny but this one isn’t very good.
If you normally find Rich & Mark funny then those are the days you should be worried about.
I found the one last week funny, the one with Gordo guzzling his pills made me chuckle.
If no one else finds them funny then may be Guido should ditch ‘em and get someone else? Or tell them to buck their ideas up.
May we should put it to a vote??
Those in favour……..
Only those that are Irish get to vote and you can do it twice as well.
It’s a bit too democratic this voting thing anyway.
Why bother voting? What do we know anyway?
Probably better off being dictated to by those who know better…
William Hague last year.
William Hague is very good ain’t he.
Yes, everything eventually gets back to Gordon and bites him on the bum, almost makes me wish Blair does get the Presidency, then perhaps people would realise how well and truly they have all been stitched-up again.
Hague’s a very intelligent man, but as the general election slanging match a frew years back, New Labour and their paid for press portrayed Hague as a “slap-head”, and that’s VERBOTTEN in New Labour’s sick society from making you a Prime Minster.
Far better to have someone who’s severely mentally ill, and a pathological liar as a PM instead.
Churchill and Shakespeare were slap-heads too. I am sure you can lay that one at the door of that chump Alistair Campbell.
They say that heavy drinkers keep their barnet
So that’s stuffed David Millibald’s chances to be next Labour leader then.
Got to go to work now ! so my tax’s can buy another sports car for the Spawn of an eu commissioner !
WE asked the Tories to stop ducking and diving and start delivering on the pressing issues facing Britain.
It’s still early days, but the first answers – on health, welfare and education – are encouraging.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/sun_says/244723/The-Sun-Says.html
Europe? What about Europe Murdoch?
What I really do not get is “Who the fuck wants TB as EU President”? I can possibly see it as reciprocating favours. But whomever is paying back the favour still ought to be at least slightly aware that the general electorate in the UK despises him, and from what I have heard from friends and family in other EU-countries he is at best considered a suspicious scare/warmongering character, so it would be a political suicide to advance him as a candidate.
The only ones I see really benefiting from TB as EU president are UKIP and the like; People will turn away from anything associated with the EU in droves.
Tony Blair will not be EU president.
The French would never allow it.
The first EU president will be French as befits the nation that dreamed the whole thing up, the nation of De Gaulle.
Blair might be EU president eventually. But the first one will be French.
Perhaps Blair will change his nationality then, just like he did his religion.
Irish you mean?
Could be.
Austrian: they don’t mind war criminals as presidents.
If they give that mass murderer an Irish passport, I will send mine, liberally covered in blood, back to the Irish Embassy in London, and apply for a British passport.
Blair hasn’t changed his religion. He still worships at the throne of his deity…himself. All else is merely window dressing.
He does worship at the altar of one god, and that’s money!
Sorry JGM, I beg to differ.
This plan has been years in the making & has been slow to implement.
President Blair will be crowned Emporer of Europe.
Stock up on ammo.
We must be ready to fight back – fight the EU occupation of Great Britain & hang the collaborators live on the internet as a future warning to all traitors..
Indeed Blair was selected years ago and has been carefully moved up. Does anyone remember the bizarre “raising up” ceremony he did at the Giza pyramid years ago? That was no tourist ceremony. He is a high level initiate. He serves his master well.
“The French would never allow it…………”
Strange then that Sarkozy has actually been lobbying other leaders on behalf of Blair and with a bit of “schmoozing” from His Excellency-elect The Right Honourable Anthony Charles Lynton Blair PC putative President of Europe – of Merckel ie offering the more influential role of foreign minister to a german as got the germans on side. Blair is also the most “well known” of any candidates and the USA would also regard him as THE candidate. He’s “sealed the deall” as the saying goes !
It’s too late to create a rumpus now-It should have been done earlier.We’d all better get used to the idea of His Excellency President of Europe Tony Blair and the First Lady of Europe Cherie Blair- no more having to bow the knee to “Her Maj” for Cherie(as if she ever did anyway )they will be “superior”(well they would like to think so)and Prime Minister Cameron would need to get approval from the EU on the majority of things that really affect the UK even in time any foreign policy areas.
Well if Cameron doesn’t like the idea it is within his power to do something about it.
It might explain why Brown signed away our sovereignty in a darkened room and in private.
Yes, slinking in late at the end.
I have the picture of the signing ceremony – that old commie Barroso grinning like pervert in a playground behind Mcmental as his unmandated hand signed away British freedom.
I wish you were correct BUT I’m afraid that THERE is little that Cameron can do effectively once the Treaty is ratified by the Poles and Czechs and comes into effect. He can hold a referendum as promised but if as expected the vote is “No” what the does he do ? He could then legitimately go to the EU and say that the British People have rejected the Treaty and wishes to re-negotiate – the EU says basically “Sod Off!” He then says he intends to abrogate the treaty or rather threatens to unless it’s re-negotiated – the EU says “Fine – it’s not being re-negotiated!”The UK government starts to disrupt the workings of the EU. The EU responds by stating that the UK’s full membership is suspended. So then Cameron has to probably call ANOTHER referendum asking the British people if they wish to continue their membership of the EU or withdraw.
All this of course will take place against the backdrop of a plummetting sterling;increased unemployment and take up government and parliamentary time.Meantime the oppositiition and “Yes” campaigners both outside and in the media will be having field day and forecast all sorts of doomsday scenarios. Cameron and the Conservatives back a “No” Vote what then happens as if in Ireland the “Yes” vote wins the second referendum which is possible after weeks/months of scaremongering by the EU and its supporters .Cameron would then have to call an election or resign and then quite possibly Labour would return to power.
The Conservatives then move further to the right under possible the leadership of Dan Hannan and are never elected again.A truism in British politics is no party on the far left or far right of politics(or even quite right of centre)has or ever will form a government in the UK
The result would be that 5 years of a Conservative government would then have come to nothing , squandered time.goodwill and support over the matter that divided Party and Country in the past – Europe. The thing that has kept the Conservative Party out of power for 12 years but it appears some on the right of the party “have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing” as someone said of Louis XVIII.
The treaty is a “fait accompli” and if the Poles/Czechs ratify we simply have to get on with making the best of a bad job.
And as for those that say that people will take to the streets over Lisbon – dream on – they won’t – the majority of the British Electorate don’t give a monkey’s.It’s all a bit like someone trying to ovethrow the government saying “the people are behind me” only to find their too busy watching “Eastenders” or “Corrie” or “X Factor”. Britain isn’t the Continent- Britons don’t stage revolutions and to think they ever will is just sheer fantasy
Reality check.
I’d say that about summed up the reality.
Good job.
Scots have got form in the signing away their sovereignty — they did it in 1707 after the collapse of the Darien Scheme:
http://www.parliament.uk/actofunion/02_02_darien.html
So it’s no surprise another Scot has buggered up again…
http://www.parliament.uk/actofunion/02_03_future.html
In Scotland, however, the case for union found much favour among its political elite during the 1690s, mainly because of the poor state of the economy. In 1699, there were discussions between politicians in London and Edinburgh about how the developing political crisis over Darien might be resolved, and the English side acknowledged that a union might be in ‘both Nation’s interest’. The Scots hoped for a union ‘of trade’ with vital access to English colonial markets. By early 1700 these talks had hardened into a legislative proposal backed by the King. At Westminster a bill for negotiating a union passed the Lords, but was thrown out in the Commons. This example of continuing English inflexibility did little to dispel the intense anti-English attitudes that were rife in Scotland.
So for the next few centuries we are in the same position as the Scots were in the early 18thC. I wonder when or where Culloden II will occur?
Superb analysis, Reality check – again.
A referendum has to be about some future decision to be made, and the government consults the electorate as to their wishes. The Gorgon has signed in Lisbon on behalf of the UK already (albeit he did so late , on his own, and with a bad grace.) In my book that is it, as far as the Lisbon treaty legalities are concerned from the UKs point of view.
Cameron’s floating of the idea that because the Polish and Czech PMs haven’t yet signed on the dotted line means that the whole thing is ‘still under discussion’ is dubious in my book. True the treaty doesn’t have the force of law yet, but we, the UK, have shot our bolt. (Yes, New-labour SAID there would be a referendum but they didn’t allow us one).
If the Poles and Czechs do sign on the dotted line and all 27 countries have therefore ratified it, the treaty is in force, and any so called ‘referendum on the Lisbon treaty’ in the UK after that would be plain daft. It would just be an opinion poll, and 26 nations will say: “Huh?’ Don’t you know it’s all done and dusted, chaps?”
Cameron’s first option, if he comes to power with the treaty already in force, is either to try and get some Maggie Thatcher-style UK opt out clauses for the stuff he most objects to (fat chance, Dave); or option 2, is to lobby hard with like-minded MEPs and other PMs and bigwigs within the Union to get EU-wide agreement on the things he wants changed. Course number three is to go home, go to bed, and pull the blankets up over his head. Course number 4, the nuclear option, is to attempt pull out of the EU altogether which would indeed require a referendum, which is likely to be lost IMNSHO.
Reality check – it’s a great pity that a substantial minority of the Tory party don’t recognise this analysis. The incessant jabbering about a “referendum” is a complete red herring. What’s the question to be? As others have pointed out the electorate couldn’t give a monkeys. UKIP? A complete waste of time and space. A flea on an elephant.
The old Tory fault line is opening up – the Beeb just LOVE it. This is going to be like defence was for Labour in the 80′s. Ideological purity at the expense of power.
The constitution etc is done and dusted. Obama wants to phone Europe – not the UK (hence the G4 proposal). And he’ll want to have Tony answering the phone.
The issue then becomes how our Government repatriates those powers that enable us to live more freely. How to define how we want to live, and then go about getting it. How do you frame a referendum question to deal with that? The French, Italians et al seem to have pretty much an a la carte approach to what the EC is about. It’s our lot that seem to “gold plate” every regulation and drive us into a state of bureaucratic insanity.
The next Government has horrendous problems to confront. The Beeb will be jubilantly reporting the riots. The currency will be going down the toilet. There will be strikes all over the place. If the likes of gobshite Hannan would rather have their ideological purity than a majority Tory government then we’re even more fucked.
While I agree with Reality Check’s points, there is one bargaining point the threat of withdrawal would have.
Britain pays, what is it? £100m/week into the EU pot (I don’t know the precise figure, but it’s huge). If we were to leave, either the French & Germans would have to make that up or some of the net beneficiaries would have to take cuts. Could you imagine Sarkozy & Merkel having to put up their taxes to plug the hole?
It’s not much, but as one of the EU’s biggest net contributors, the threat of Britain leaving is far more uncomfortable to them than, say, Latvia or Romania doing it.
Wim Duesemburg was the guy I was alluding to.
Wiki…
Owing to the success of his monetary policy, he became well-known in other European countries, and this led to his appointment in 1998 as the first president of the new European Central Bank in Frankfurt, much to the chagrin of France, who wanted a French candidate. A compromise was agreed upon (although publicly denied by all parties) whereby Duisenberg would serve for at least four years, upon which the Frenchman Jean-Claude Trichet, director of the Banque de France, would take over. In 1999, Duisenberg received the Vision for Europe Award in recognition of his efforts toward the unification of Europe.
Duisenberg announced he would retire on 9 July 2003, (his 68th birthday), but he remained in office until Trichet was cleared of charges of fraud in connection with the collapse of the French bank Crédit Lyonnais.
At best Blair will get one or two years in post and then the French candidate will assume power indefinitely.
The EU is run solely for the benefit of the French.
If any ‘good’ does accrue to any other country it is purely an accidental by-product.
The EU rewriting history. In this European taxpayer funded clip, they imply that the Berlin wall and the entire Eastern Bloc fell because of the EU, when in fact it was political unrest from the pissed off people against their corrupt masters. The same fate will happen again someday against the crooked MEPs in Brussels. We want out countries back from the New World Order Communists.
Spot on analysis. If GB renages on a Treaty all bets are of. For example Spain could void the Treaty of Utrecht claiming sovereignty over Gibralter. The only real referendum to be had will be in or out of Europe. Dave is to much of an establishment figure to risk asking a question like that. Unless someone with real leadership comes along to reform the UK and The EU we are doomed to just trundle along getting ever closer a European Union that does not work democratically, socially and economically.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218139/3-5m-payday-Boney-Blair-Cherie-Antoinette-march-presidency.html
boney blair and cherie antionnette are storming towards the EU Presidency and a £3.5milllion pay package over 5 years.
Apparently tone has won over merkel’s support with the promise of top jobs for her chosen pals.
Just when we thought we had seen the back of him some idiot lets him escape from Elba and now he may have an Army of 27 mercenary Countries at his command, It will all end in tears.
With the original Boney, it only lasted 100 days – perhaps Cameron will be our Iron Duke. We can but hope….
Some hope,Wellington was an Irishman. Shame they don’t make them like that anymore. The current lot seem easily bullied,greedy and dependant on EU handouts. Let’s hope for another round of potato blight?
An ashamed Englishman of Irish descent!
Regrets, Dixie
Wellington was an Irishman.
Wellington certainly wouldn’t have agreed with you about that.
correct he said ” just because I was born in a stable does’nt make me a donkey” It appears though he didn’t always deny it.
Surely anonymous you haven’t followed the EU edict and burnt all your history books. Anyway those that are left will tell you he was born in Dublin approx 1770.
Did you study history under New Labour or just stupid? They didn’t do PC in those days, a digging implement was called a spade. So its of no bearing what Wellington thought he WAS an Irishman- and represented some of the best of us all!!
A photograph of the Iranian president holding up his identity card during elections in March 2008 clearly shows his family has Jewish roots. …TELEGRAPH
All we need now is to discover that Blair has Iraqi roots
He has grey roots.
He has Scottish roots. I never knew they had Jackals up there.
Jockinese is in their DNA.
Free care for the elderly
Free hospital parking.
No university fees.
Free prescriptions…etc etc…all denied to the English.
Of course it’s only a coincidence that we’ve had a jock government for 12 years.
all denied to the English.
Because English MPs refuse to implement them. You don’t like what your MPs are doing, take it up with them, you subliterate bigoted retard.
Yeah we would but you lot prevent it but we still pay for it you fucked up twat.
He has no roots – he just developed from some detritus lying around.
Slime mould. Lot of it about this autumn.
” We are the people’s pikeys.”
Cameron needs to nail his colours to the mast and declare he will give the british people a referendum come what may.
I am amazed that he has not realised that by doing this he would be swept into power with a massive majority.
What stops him doing this,certainly not what a chek pm might do,Cameron knows damn well this is a non starter.
So what is the masterplan,I personally dont think there is one other than coming up with wasn,t me guv it was that NuLab that sold us downt river.
I dont think on reflection that Cameron cares a toss about this country and I have written to him a while ago on this subject,the answer I got was two pages of dross which told me absolutely zilch.
Ah well one can only hope that I,m completely wrong about Cameron and he will at some point tell this unelected bunch of commissars called the EUSSR that this sovereign country is no longer for sale.
As for Bliar and all his treacherous bunch they need hanging from the nearest lamposts.
So an unmandated jock junta & the Irsish electorate have bought Englands proud 1000 year old history to an end?
No, not quite – we are the English & we have not yet spoken.
And we certainly have not started shooting back yet.
Cameron be warned – you stuff us at your peril.
FCUK Cameroon!
We English go through this cycle every so often. History tells us, however, that we prevail in the end. It’s just that we always let things get out of hand before we stand up and do something about it. That’s our only national failing: being too tolerant towards traitors.
Quite correct.
Now though we have a large fifth column of traitors to deal with.
Once the fighting is over & we have once again prevailed, if we do, I favour giving these traitors the choice to relinguish their British citizenship & leave for Europe in exile for ever.
I favour hanging the bastards and displaying their corpes in cages as a warning.
Oh I think we have more failings than that.
I think it’s different this time – the assault has been on our *identity*, and it’s been very cleverly carried out for decades. Schools have become quite effective brainwashing factories, all in the open – yet few have raised alarm bells, and when they did, the very effective controlled media could poohpooh them.
When the English have rebelled before they have done so with the weight of history behind them. They have felt empowered by our traditions of liberty and individual freedom. Today, no fucker under 20 appears to know anything about anything.
When you hear “first time voters” on the radio saying they could never vote tory because of what “Thatcher did to the miners”, you know schooling has become a critical issue.
“When you hear “first time voters” on the radio saying they could never vote tory because of what “Thatcher did to the miners”, you know schooling has become a critical issue.”
Too true Frank.
It was in Nottingham, and there are plenty of places round there full to the brim with “unemployed miners”.
Nottinghamshire certainly has had its share of unemployed miners but was actually the seat of the breakaway UDM who opposed Arthur Scargill and the NUM and effectively broke the strike by maintaining supplies.
But it certainly was where Charles raised his standard during the English civil war. Though it did him no good eventually.
To the East of the county they are mainly tories, to the West and North they still vote ZaNuLab (at least did in 2005). The city itself comprises some sink estates each actually ruled by a non-elected yob clan watched over by the usual well-meaning Labour social worker types who hold sway with a turnout of around 20% of voters.
The other 80% can’t be bothered or are barricaded in. Little Britain.
That time has come and passed, it was the 2005 election.
Brown studied history… this is his revenge on England for the act of Union 1707 which came about as the result of Scotland’s trashed economy by the Darien Scheme. As soon as he became chancellor he set about it again, trashing the UK economy, very successfully. He’ll be well rewarded by the EUSSR.
The UK is bankrupt. It’s over.
To Adam.
Any roots Bliar has should be round his bloody neck strangling the treacherous bastard.
Hell just turned on to the parly channel ,and found a Cameron beautey on,must go and have a sit down
After you’ve had a wank of course.
Counter insurgency against the EU is needed – Christ knows they have robbed us of any democracy.
Stiff upper lip & all that.
I recommend everyone read up on Churchills plan for armed insurgency should the Germans have ever occupied Britain.
Where is that available?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Churchills-Underground-Army-History-Auxiliary/dp/1848325150
I would have buggered off to Canada of course, out of harms way. You little persons can fight them on the beaches…
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Churchills-Underground-Army-History-Auxiliary/dp/1848325150
Wrong link should have been this one.Doh.
The Last Ditch: Britain's Resistance Plans Against the Nazis
I will get the hang of this sometime soon.
Point one in the armed insurgencygameplan was to shoot all the Chief Constables because they knew too much.
Clever bloke that Churchill.
like it fawkes
Have a listen to 5Lies, IQ test before you can vote anyone?
Bloody good idea. Minimum IQ 100 before you get the vote (and let’s face it, 100 is pretty low).
We ought to stop the buggers breeding, as well. We just don’t need cannon fodder any more.
That’s fifty percent of the population not allowed to vote. Are you sure you’re in the top half, mate?
Dispatches tonight at 8pm: “Who Took Your Pension?”
Let’s hope it ends up with the villain having a stake thrust through his heart.
G.FAWKES IS CLOSE TO P. MANDELSON ???
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/thetorydiary/2009/10/dan-hannan-guido-fawkes-and-peter-mandelson-shoot-up-the-league-table-of-britains-most-influential-r.html
When Irish Eyes Are Smiling…
They are usually up to something!
according to this t-shirt anyway
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WHEN-IRISH-EYES-ARE-SMILING-LISBON-TREATY-MOD-T-SHIRT-M_W0QQitemZ180415983347QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Men_s_Vintage_Clothing?hash=item2a01a16ef3&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262
I’m watching / listening to Tory Conf on watchtvonpc.net
Cameron could only make progress if he articulated a strong, positive alternative to the EU as it is currently forced upon us. Many, if not most, agree that there are benefits to the EU but object to the lack of democracy, the blatant fraud, self serving functionaries, the arbitrary application of petty regulations and stifling of dissent. The good does not outweigh the bad, and you can die of being force fed the finest food.
The EU project has more in common with China and Russia than the USA or India. It is telling that the EU is not seen as one of the great democracies of the world.
I am sure that there would be broad support amongst the Nordic and East European countries for a sensible pairing back of the the EU to focus on trade issues – perhaps even Germany after the recent election results. The EU needs a new direction, and someone needs to articulate and provide leadership.
I suggeset that you read some of Thatchers speeches from the second have of the 1970’s. Even if you don’t agree with everything she said, she laid out her case for change underpinned by a philosophical argument. Every criticism of the then Labour government was based on a coherent and rational opinion. The bitch fight that goes for politics today is an obscenity.
The EU project is a potentially worthy cause built on a flawed foundation of dictorial arrogance combined with the back room deals, stifling of dissent through the arbitrary application of unjust and immoral laws and bribary with our own money.
Treat the voters with respect – they may even surprise you with their willingness to accept change rather than have it forced upon them in a not-so-subtle attempt to create a political system that is controlled in perpetuity by unelected self appointed functionaries.
Too late.
You want to be free from tyranny you will now be required to fight for your freedom.
The Telegraph’s ‘Top 100 most influential Right-wingers’ shows Mandy at number 18! Is the old queen preparing to cross the floor when Labour is dumped by the electorate? There was I thinking he was a man of principle. (Not!)
indeed – but when he breaks cover & is on open ground in no mans land between the lines that is the time to get him.
tap, tap
One shot. One kill.
None of this SAS close quarters nonsense.
Saw ratty old lady Kinnokio on the box yesterday trying not to look smug about the Bliar plan. Has she resigned from the Europarliament yet or has she still got her trotters in two swill pails?
OINK ! OINK !
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/gordon-brown/5463587/Glenys-Kinnock-the-lucrative-transition-from-MEP-to-Europe-Minister.html
OINK ! OINK !
Dosen’t answer the question though. Bear in mind that Mandleson is I understand paid for up to 3 years by the EU after departure you can bet this kinnock bitch is getting a similar deal.
I can’t believe that having lost twice in a GE they have such powerful positions in the EU. Now Bliar to join them WTF? Mandleson will follow as sure as egss is eggs and McRuin will get a high flying job on the finance side.
Its already been decided mark my words.
asked same question the other day and no one seems to know. I would just like to know what any of the Kinnocks have actually done for their money besides screw us.
anything?
Kinnock is being rewarded by the Labour party for losing the 1992 election. But the Tories have only themselves to blame. They had no excuse for appointing Kinnock an EU Commisioner in the first place.
None.
Kinnock lost and should have been consigned to obscurity. Instead of which he was given a second chance to feather his entire families nest without the need for anything as ditracting as an election.
Can you imagine Blair/Brown promoting a non-Labour apparatchik to anything? A bit of cross-party recipocracy?
No. Me neither.
Mr and Mrs Welsh-Windbag, the ultimate hypocrites. Both were against Europe, so they went to work for it. Both wanted to abolish the House of Lords, so they joined it.
Words fail me.
Words have never failed us.
Zilch. Havn’t even picked up there rubbish.
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to have a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Lisbon-ref/
Remember that you can also help by telling others about it!
what’s the point?
Basically to help stop the next leader from backing down.
Signed.
Thank you! Now tell others so it can go viral!
Wouldn’t it be ironic if ‘events’ pushed the political complexion of Europe to the far Right… I’d love to see some of the So-schlist shills on this site try and backtrack out of *that* one… before their doors caved in. A bit late then to discover what checks, balances, Democracy and accountability were supposed to prevent!
It may already be written into the script.
What do you think all those cameras and databases are for?
Boris is now on,the place is not exactly full to the brim.
Why don’t you move abroad when Dave gets in? It’ll help to stop your head imploding.
Why don’t you find a railway crossing to stand in the middle of.
I know it’s tough having dementia, but at least you could have finished the sentence FFS.
Looks like a complete sentence to me.
Leave it alone jgm2 it ain’t worf it.
And you look like an interfering tosspot to me. Now butt out and mind your own.
“Leave it alone jgm2 it ain’t worf it.”
Yeah, listen to the retard jgm2.
I was in the train at Slough last weekend. Don’t do it. Not nice for passengers.
Europe.
By far the most important issue of the day.
Immigration (Human Rights Act), Crime (Human Rights Act), No-win-no-fee lawyers running amock (Human Rights Act)
All of these issues exacerbated by our involvement in the EU. And now the prospect of Emperor Blair.
My guts churn.
Guido, can you please do a seperate blog explaining why the feck you continue to use these second rate “cartoonists”, and why you think second rate toilet humour is better suited to your blog than satire?
Dead children, venereal disease, sex toys, ‘That’s brilliant, Damien’…
Maybe it’s because Lefters don’t like the taste of their own techniques, and Guido knows it. Hey – at least it isn’t funded out of taxpayer’s money!
Something is happening, and you don’t understand… Do you, Mister Jones?
who the hell is it? jug ears, hmm… must be marr, right?
You know who it is tat. The problem is cartoonists Rich and Mark aren’t all that hot at creating a very good likeness to go with their satirical ideas. I think it was Steve Bell who first drew Bliar with one mad-looking eye. Every caroonist seems to do it now.
Boris is good,bankers= a leper colony that makes money for the country.
almost right – makes money from the country
nope he had it right the first time
Oh dear dear me what a plonker!
Blair will get £3.5m over the next 5 years – PLUS a tax rate of just 5% It’s easy to see why these shysters want the top jobs.
No 5% tax rate for us plebs – we’re shafted.
Blair gets much more than that. Money is laundered to him from inflated after dinner speech fees, extra expenses, book advances and ways we can only guess at. All paid for by our yachting friends for services rendered while in power.
I am speaking to you from the living room . This morning The British people handed the EU a final note stating that, unless we heard from them by 11 o’clock that they were prepared at once to withdraw the Lisburn treaty, a state of war would exist between us. I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received, and that consequently this country is at war with the EU.
Lisburn? Brown’s in Northern Ireland today isn’t he?
Figures.
I surrender and so does Scotland.
I shat myself first then surrendered.
Let me help you with that
Lisbon even….
Liesborn
Portugal is the only land in the world on which the British(English) have not fought
You’ve clearly never been in Praia Da Luz on a Saturday night.
So what about the Battle of Busaco in1810. What the fuck was Wellington doing with Massena? Holding a Fucking tea dance? The 52nd put up a good show. Yet again we were outnumbered, and still we beat those twats. We’ve stopped the EU twice before, Boney and Hitler. I guess the fightingwilltake place on home turf now. Remember Oxford union vote about not fighting another WW in thirties? These guys mostly died for us. And as for the kids of today remember what Wellington said about his soldiers being the scum of the earth,but what great men they have become.
absolute fucking bullshit
Like the malarial mosquito, the Ebola virus and many other organisms that seem to have no good purpose, Blair is proof that God does not exist.
Or if he does exist, he has a pretty sick sense of humour.
The best trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing everyone he did not exist.
Emporer Blair, leader of the Holy Roman Empire, is proof positive that the Devil incarnate walks amongst us.
Maybe there wa something in that Demon Eyes poster……
Of course their was, but john q public was too comfortable and ignorant to fucking get it! Blair is a Lucifarian’s puppet and a damned willing one at that.
Boris’s Brilliant Conference speech
Seconded – There’s only one Boris!!
Buffoon.
Iasn’t he the one that wants amnestys for illegals?
Iasn’t been told bout dat
SHUT THE FCUK UP, WOMAN !!
I is just getin me coat B
Please report to your line manager for re-training after your shift has ended.
Ah, but he’s promised this will be a one off, and they’ll be proper checks carried out, and there’ll be a clamp down on further illegal immigration blah fucking blah…..
It just goes to show, when your loyalty is only to money and profit, amnesties for illegals make perfect sense.
Steve, Swiss Bob is back to the daily yap 12:00hrs or 16:00 if your in the ME.
Thanks, might take a look if work doesn’t get in the way!
RELAX
Frankie he say relax ! – I say don’t do it !
Read and be damned, Labour
The official version of the new constitutional treaty is almost unreadable for most non-specialists, as it takes the form of a series of amendments to the existing treaties, without reproducing the existing text which it would alter.
The new treaty ( Lisbon) effectively alters the existing treaties to bring them into line with the rejected European Constitution.
Several EU leaders have admitted that the new treaty has been made deliberately inaccessible:
The author of the Constitution, Valery Giscard d’Estaing, has said that “All the earlier proposals will be in the new text, but will be hidden and disguised in some way.”
Former Italian Prime Minister Giuliano Amato has said that: “They decided that the document should be unreadable. If it is unreadable, it is not constitutional, that was the sort of perception… Should you succeed in understanding it at first sight there might be some reason for a referendum, because it would mean that there is something new.”
Belgian Foreign Minister Karel de Gucht has said that, “The aim of the Constitutional treaty was to be more readable; the aim of this treaty is to be unreadable… The Constitution aimed to be clear, whereas this treaty had to be unclear. It is a success.”
Some opponents of a referendum have even argued that the “new” treaty is shorter than the old constitution and so therefore cannot be substantively the same thing. This is a dishonest argument.
The new treaty, in its unconsolidated form, contains only the “active ingredients” – the changes which were proposed by the original Constitution. However, once it is turned back into consolidated text it becomes obvious that the “new” treaty essentially edits the existing treaties to bring them into line with the rejected constitution.
“The manifesto is what we put to the public. We’ve got to honour that manifesto. That is an issue of trust for me with the electorate.”
(Gordon Brown, interview, 24 June 2007)
“The new Constitutional Treaty ensures the new Europe can work effectively… We will put it to the British people in a referendum.”
(Labour, 2005 Manifesto)
So, essentially, Gordon Brown is a disingenuous liar?
Glad that’s settled then.
So, apart from bare-faced reneging on the Lisbon Treaty/Constitution and completely fucking up the UK’s economy is there any other reason we shouldn’t be voting Labour?
That is absolutely correct. The reason for the constitutional treaty was to replace many older treaties altogether and have one universal treaty become the legal basis for the EU’s constitution, establishing for the first time a ‘legal personality’ for the EU itself.
When this constitutional treaty was rejected twice, the EU decided to amend all the earlier treaties to make them create the exact same legal framework as was proposed in the constitutional treaty.
That is why the Lisbon treaty is called the ‘reform’ treaty as it reforms all the previous treaties in such a way as to create a patched up constitutional treaty.
The effect in law is identical.
HAS ANYONE SEEN MY CAMEL?
It’s just behind the Elephant in the Room
He got the hump and fucked off.
I say “great sovereign state” with design and emphasis,
for I reject the view that Britain and the Commonwealth
should now be relegated to a tame and minor role in the world.
Our past is the key to our future, which I firmly trust and believe will be no less fertile and glorious.
Let no man underrate our energies, our potentialities and our abiding power for good.
Winston Churchill.
WIBBLE WIBBLE WIBBLE.
Your last two posts were extermely offensive to Muslims and other people with learning difficulties. While we appreciate your zeal, we feel that termination of your contract is the only path we can take.
HAVE YOU SEEN MY WEENER.
vote Labour they are the pro retard party.
Oh dear dear me,
also known as labour List. with the very first leak of Labour’s manifesto.
Wibble wibble wibble.
I win! I will keep the gorgon in charge until the czechs are pressured enough to cave in. Then Tony is President. Hello unlimited expenses and power, they will finally get me my maserati and never again to have to worry about a referendum or election. And to think the people of England thought we were trying to help them! Ha ha dream on you peasants.
Free first class travel for life and huge pension for free – all it cost was my nation’s freedom. Betrayal never felt so good.
If Blair ever gets to be President he had better invest in a lot of armour plated clothing.
Cherie has been banging on about getting a bigger, better security detail just this past week. Hmmmm, now would be a good time before he gets fully kitted out.
They and their children will live out the rest of their lives in a gilded security cage… how ironic — they steal our freedom and democracy and end up de facto prisoners themselves.
That reminds me, I’ve got a letter to post.
Unfortunately, he is under no threat at all. The English will just sit back and do nothing.
What makes you think that only the English hate him?
Looks as if some some lefty don’t like me,I thought they brought the harassment laws in.
10% of the population is unrighthanded, and may find that comment distressing. If you have failed to applie ideological self-rectification by lunchbreak, we will set our UAF members on you and redact your Party membership off of you.
HRM – “unrighthanded” – A gem.
Another one from Labour List
It is me coz I’m a daft c unt
The phrase “daft c unt” demeans both the special needs community and the vaginally enabled. Are you sure you are a member of the Burnley sector Labour Party activist comittey? We can check, you know…
Politically Sinister
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinister
4. Of or on the left side; left
F both Nulab / ZanuCon
Good to see boris on form on BBC news just.
Proof that you don’t haver to be a nasty, vindictive, inveigling liar to be a top Politician
Oh yes you do.
Neil following the Al Beeb Manual to interview Tories. Hectoring, constant interuptions.
Boris is cool under fire for the monment.
Al Beeb seem to lose the plot when they are confronted with Tories.
add the GMTV Twat to that.
Watched him interview Michael Gove this morning and did all of the above so we never really once got to hear any answers. The bastard also got the term ‘nasty party’ in the first sentence about 3 words in during the introduction.
I also watched the same guy with Labour last week and all sweetness and light. Put them back to back and watch them yourselves if you don’t believe it.
Cnuts
Again I would like to state I am all for rigourous interviewing of any politician but that should apply to ALL parties and one party should not be exempted just for political gain.
GMTV’s not all bad… “I LOVE you Alan Johnson!” ex-presenter Fiona Phillips producing the most toe-curlingly awful introduction I have ever witnessed — look at Straw and Johnson’s faces — the phrase ‘having a blond moment’ doesn’t come close:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8280719.stm
Just seen Hague. He is always good to listen to… both sharp and funny… He also used the words ‘chumps’ with its new Mandelsonian meaning, and gave the reference too.
When Im licking windows…..
is that you Derek?
LOL….Boris is tying Brillo up in knots on the Daily Politics Show
Has done very well not to thump him in the nuts.
Brio should have been asked about how much he has been earning for being such an aggressive SOB.
They’re mates !!
Brillo enjoyed it so much he forced his hand into Boris’s to illustrate that – I’ve never seen Brillo do that ever before
Yep..that was a telling moment.
No doubt the Beeb mafiosi will wrap his knuckles over it.
Boris to Brillo….
“I am a mere toenail in the body politic”
Brilliant!
Hope Toenails was watching!!!!
Really the uniform is wrong. Since Blair would be running the Fourth Reich, it should be a Hitler based one.
No medals-just the ribbons and a funny rednose
Unfair. Hitler was freely elected.
It really is wrong for people to make I’ll-judged comparisons between Blair and Hitler.
Blair makes Hitler look like an amatEUr
Boris goes off message:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/borisjohnson/6261277/Voters-could-still-get-say-on-EU-Lisbon-Treaty-under-the-Conservatives-Boris-Johnson-says.html
Nope! fraid not
He says the same as Cameron and has reiterated that fact since. Nice twist by the Telegraph though and almost up to the standards of Pravda
Judge rules that EU has no power over Parliament
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1385824/Christopher-Bookers-Notebook.html
That’s very interesting but it comes back to the point about the patriotism and integrity of the ‘Serving’ Prime Minister.
Like many I am disappointed that Ireland saw fit to go back on their ‘NO’ pledge over Europe but then again what do you expect when we used to get nil pois from them in Eurovision when on avaerage we gave them 5 points! Ho hum but my points here are how come 6 million Irish voters seems to have more validity then potentionally 60 million British votes who I believe, and having read a number of my blogs nationally, would be a resounding NO!!
Where is Farage when we need him?
More to the point my first thought when I got the news was to be reminded of Italy’s change of allegencies during the second world war, but then again it is never clear who they are loyal toThen again why did so many allies lose their lives 64 years ago if today we are handing our sovereignty to an unelected Brussels on a plate?
Then again why did so many allies lose their lives 64 years ago if today we are handing our sovereignty to an unelected Brussels on a plate?
‘Where’s Farage when we need him?’
http://www.ukip.org/content/latest-news/1273-tory-defectors-line-up-to-join-ukip
Emporer Blair of the Holy Roman Empire.
We really are in the fight for our lives now.
Without a shot being fired, Great Britain is on the verge of being consigned to history – to be turned in to a mere economic region of the Franco German Empire.
Its enough to make you stock up on shotgun shells.
This might sound strange but do the tories want to lose the GE?
Or to have a hung parliament where Dave will not have to make serious decisions?
The guy does not seem to want an outright win IMO
Blair will be a puppet. The French and Germans will expect him to do exactly as he is told, just like Bush used to. But he will think he’s an emperor, just like one of those people in psychiatric wards who think they are Napoleon.
Le twat, c’est moi.
A Kapo effectively….
Hague speaking now…
Whatever you think of him personally..he’s the most accomplished orator in our political system.
He’s just tearing into Brown..but in such a polite manner.
Sorry to go on….but he’s been talking for about 5 minutes on this Governments’ failures..then says..
“I can keep going if you wish”
This is one of the most damaging speeches against Brown that I have ever seen.
Now Mandlesons’ getting the treatment!!!
What’s the chance of this speech getting top billing on the BBC news tonight??
None!!!
You’ve got two chances of that.
None and bugger all.
At least it’s getting repeats on Freeview BBC Parliament channel.
Undoubtedly the best speaker of any politician around now.
His comment on Brown and Mandy was both cutting but hillarious – he was undoubtedly the leader at the wrong time, dare I say he would probably make a better PM than Cameron.
You’re dead right…it was too early for him.
Too small, too bald, otherwise agree with you 100%. I was lucky enough to be in the Strangers’ Gallery a while back for PMQs/whatever, he was (is?) one of the few people that could match T Blair’s oratorical skills.
PMQs between Hague and Bliar was worth watching every week – no matter what you thought of their views and policies here were two champions of debate arguing the business of the day as should happen in Parliament. It is a shame that there is so little of their exchanges available in the usual places online.
Contrast with recent PMQs, Broon not coming close to answering the same question several times yet Cameron unable to finish him off with his words.
Hague will be PM one day – and he’d be okay I reckon.
BTW, TuscanTony, if you fancy settling that bet with a tenner to these people,
http://www.vulcantothesky.org/pledge_form.asp
it would be great. I reckon we could do with having at elast one long rang nuclear bomber in the sky….
£ 10 will be on its way Frank, I’ve checked their site and it didn’t seem to be https: secure, any way I can get them the tenner via paypal?
The iframe with the donation form is on a secure server TT – https://secure.romancart.com/payment/checkout.asp – bit of a cheapskate way of doing it but I reckon that’s secure enough. No one pinched my details anyway…. Paypal would be better wouldn’t it? Faster for one thing.
I was going to suggest the RNLI instead but their online donation is via a cc form too. I guess paypal take too much of a cut.
Missed it, someone needs to youtube it pronto and maybe we’ll be able to get it to go viral.
Hannan says Dave has delivered on what he’s promised. That clip (posted yesterday) from 2007 tells me otherwise.
http://www.ukip.org/content/latest-news/1273-tory-defectors-line-up-to-join-ukip
You tory boys gonnae have referendum on Lisbon, then?
Naw yer no, ur ye?
Aw talk.
You Labour boys honour your manifesto promise?…
Naw yer did’na !
An answer will be forthcoming when we work out what language you are speaking.
Failing that we will do what Labour did and LIE.
Allow me Anon. I have a few words I’ve gathered over the past half century.
295. Jist once, Jist once. I wid like tae be able talk tae you withoot feelin… like I’ve jist gargled wi’ Preparation H!
( I am indebted to Mr Robert Nesbitt of Govan for his most excellent linguistic tutelage.)
Right toryboys
That’ll be a no then.
Yis are a bunch o’ chancers, an’ public school yoyos.
Gies us peace wi yer Wee engerlund ranting.
Hague’s speech bloody blooody good
Hague’s up there with Churchill, Martin Luther King — what a speech that was!
Best of all: “The next Conservative Government will amend the 1972 European Communities Act so that any future Government which tries to transfer powers to the EU will have to hold a national referendum first.”
Horse. Stable door. Bolted.
Yeah we also need to lasso some of those horses and get them back.
And if the Law of Precedent still has any meaning here’s the rope for it
Judge rules that EU has no power over Parliament
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1385824/Christopher-Bookers-Notebook.html
“but buried in Lord Justice Laws’s judgment was a highly significant point generally missed. Reporting on the case suggested that EU law must now override the wishes of Parliament in all respects.
Hence, for instance, the front page of The Sun which carried the one-word headline “Surrender”. But this was not what the judge said. He was anxious to underline that Parliament has no power to give away its sovereignty.
EU law can only override the will of Parliament because Parliament agrees to allow it do so through the European Communities Act. But there is nothing in this Act, the judge explained, which allows the EU or any of its institutions, including the European Court of Justice, to “qualify the conditions of Parliament’s legislative supremacy in the United Kingdom.”
As Baroness Scotland would say, “A technicality”.
But he is outranked by the boxfresh Supreme Court and they, in turn, by European Court of Justice in Luxembourg. Theoretically.
Too late the hero Mr Vague! how about repatriating some of those powers in the here and now. What’s that? Speak up a little, I can’t hear you.
Well said anonymous. We want action now. when? NOW-this week or I’m going to donate to UKIP next week
What a load of horsehit…they’re in Opposition,and have been for 12 long years.
It’s this Government that’s let the people down..or do you still blame it all on the Tory legacy?
Pointless discussion. He’s in opposition, so in no position to deliver on anything, other than clearing out troughers, for which I would give him about 4 out of 10, compared with Brown’s 1 out of 10.
So what’s your point and what do you expect him to say?
“I’m in Opposition so I’m in no position to deliver anything”
Pretty pointless comment if you ask me.
Sorry sleeper it was meant to be a reply to 270 above, not a comment on Cameron’s or Hague’s speeches. It does look a bit daft out of context, but my point was that the government should talk about its record (ouch!) and the opposition about its plans, rather than the other way round, which is nonsense on both sides.
Sorry mongrel..I got it out of context
For those not able to get to a telly at the moment where can Hagues speech be seen on a rerun?
I don’t expect the MSM to do it as it criticises the dear leader.
Sorry..don’t know,but I’d expect someone to put it on YouTube in time.
So many wankers on 5Live this morning. Obviously full of Labour stooges.
We shall overcome
BBC 1 o’c News – blah blah blah Tory announcement ……… but could be overshadowed by Europe
What a bunch of tossers the BBC is !
It is overshadowed by Europe. Hence this thread.
It’s simple – Liebor has done nothing and will do nothing re EU whilst the Tories will do something when and if it can.
The Tories may ask a different question more apt at the time
It’s a Red Herring – the only thing Liebor is trying to hang on to
How much EU gold has been received by Al Beeb at White Powder City?
..and no mention of Hague’s speech, which was undoubtedly the best oration from a politician since Hannan had 3 minutes at Broon.
Just read the speech, barnstorming, get it on YouTube quick someone to override the editorial censorship by our media! The list is a great starting point for any discussion on who is best to lead the country oit of this mess. Well done Mr H, a great Foreign Secretary in waiting, a great deputy leader.
ITV first to post an abridged version – superb speech!
Thanks Steve. I don’t want to make a joke of something so good but was that The Duke and later on Blunkett in the audience?
Whatever happened to that obnoxious little boy….
The BBC did start to broadcast his speech live, but then they realised how damaging to labour it was so they cut him off half way through, told people to tune in to BBC Parliament instead, and said that the tories were in disarray over europe.
I’m sure that little misdemeanor will go in Daves little pocket book
the BBC are so far in labour’s pocket it makes me sick – it’s like having a state broadcaster in the ussr – abolish the license fee
you have to be kidding!!!
Where is Cherie Antoinette?
Behind that guy’s camel
Eating cake.
Cake is a made-up drug. It’s not made from plants, it’s made from chemicals…by…sick bastards.
Guido,
Why are Skid and Mark featuring Nosferatu in this weeks
display of retarded cartoon incompetence?
Is it his connection with mainland Europe?
BBC reporting that Ainsworthless and Alan Johnson turned up in Helmand this morning (obviously to try and get media time during the Tory conference).
Instead of the puff piece for which they were hoping, they got “ambushed” by a few of the Queen’s finest suggesting that more troops and equipment were needed urgently.
How many times has one read in recent weeks and months of HM’s Servants openy criticising Ministers? This is unheard of, in living memory.
The Arrse forum are talking about it.
Pathetic Bastards !!
Brown’s in NI – watch for feeble announcement
well steve, when a government breaks the military covenant, as the new labour party has done, then they should expect no mercy from the military.
the words summary and execution spring to mind.
In history, whenever a government starts to abuse their armed forces, the armed forces usually decides to take on the government. But I don’t think this will happen to Brown and Ainsworth. Why? Our armed forces are too well trained for that. Too dedicated. But push them too far…
Bloody hell tat, you and I are agreeing again!
Government have completely fucked up in Afghanistan – if you are going to do war it has to be done properly, either send enough men with enough kit, or get the fuck out of there!
Well we sent them Freddie Flintoff and Gary Lineker. If those chaps can’t make the Taliban pack it the fuck in, it’s a poor show
This government must be at its wit’s end. To have wasted so much resources in stirring up terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan, only to find that not a single IED has thus far been deployed by Islamic militants within the UK. What on earth are they going to do for an excuse to bring in martial law?
Good God,tat…excellent comment.
Pity they don’t shoot the vermin, for treason.
Brown turns up during the last Tory conference and was rightly mocked by the media.
This year 2 Labour drones turn up and are mocked by the troops, never mind the media.
Its like the plot out of a Carl Hiaasen novel.
I don’t know about a Novel, but living with this government is a living nightmare, and the Irish vote to pay the Danegeld is just the icing on the cake.
A Labour government completely out of any other ideas of what to do.
Ainsworthless was lucky not to be shot.
BREAKING NEWS
PRIME MINISTER BROWN
WATCHING TORY CONFERENCE
HAS GONE THROUGH 5 TV’s
AND 6 MOBILES
Already? – blimey !!
It’s TIN AT WEEK – innit !
is it john hutton?
Can’t be Hutton, not covered in whitewash…
Whatto tat,how you keeping?
I am in fine fettle sir, thanks for asking.
Silly pair of tossers. Shouldn’t you children be at school?
yes, but I am a delinquent so I choose not to attend.
I am a genius anyway, so what could they teach me, eh?
ROTFLMAO
Yeah. Good one, tat!
Anyone seen the reports on Infowars Ireland and Prison Planet? Irish vote null and void ‘cos ballot was rigged! Fact or fiction?
FACT.
It wouldn’t surprise me. I saw a picture of a Nun posting her vote in a ballot box tied up with white ribbon held together with a padlock with the padlock key attached next to it on same ribbon.
Saw the same pic and thought it was a joke – key attached to the box!
Will this story get picked up by the regular press or am I being a tad naive?
tell me. what is the point of having a padlock with the key to unlock it attached to the padlock? I just can’t work that one out no matter how hard I try because if everyone was honest in elections there wouldn’t be any bloody need for a padlock.
Simple. The padlock was there to stop someone trying to nick the ribbon.
Pretty incoherent and hysterical, but perhaps a kernel of truth in there somewhere. Some very dishonest campaigning, but that is true for most votes and elections.
Cry wolf syndrome
All you Tory dinosaurs like to have a go at Gordon Brown but at least he’s doing everything he can to prop up house prices in this country.
Without high house prices Britain would be bankrupt.
Think about that before you attack the man.
It’s clearly old Boney or The Blessed Tone as he is also known.
But it is interesting that this should come up now, as it seems a former Labour Prime Minister, Harold ‘the Pound in your pocket’ Wilson offered Libya a large bribe in order not to support the IRA.
Harman doesn’t give a stuff for equality, will Cameron save lives? Wilson tried to bribe Libya, Czechs have good reason to distrust EU bloc
But who owns the cock shoved up his arse?
tony thinks he is so clever.yet EVERYONE knew that cherie was smarter than him when they worked at derry irvines company…..
how the fuck did he ever sire 4 kids( 1 might be gordies of course) when looking at that ugly face?
so clever that he has been stuck with that for 30 odd years……….
blair for prez?
not even fit for cleaning sewers.
It’ll soon be pay back time if teflon gets the top job in the EU. Also he’ll have a wife, 4 children and mandy to fit up with lucrative jobs when and if, he gets top job, plus Uncle Tom Cobbley and all!
I met her in real life and was forced to reappraise my opinion of her. The camera does her no favours, it has to be said.
Not having read the Lisbon treaty like 99.9999999999999 of people, I’m just a tad ignorant of what it is all about.
Can anyone tell me what the job description of the European president is and can anyone apply? I rather fancy the pay, pension, expenses and palace that comes with the job.
It’s only the pay and the perks that’s finalised, the rest is on the job work experience.
The Post Holder writes his (or her) own job description.
In plain english – F UCK ALL!
You swan around the world talking crap and raking in the cash. So pretty much what Blair’s doing already.
We, the people, are not meant to read the treaty. There will be enough clauses so that should they want to, for example, start turning people into Soylant Green-style food bars, then they’ll be able to quote some part of the Lisbon Treaty that they will claim gives them exactly that power.
look I have said this before and I will say it again:
there is more chance of tony blair being assassinated than of him becoming the president of the EU.
the EU will not allow tony to continue to be protected by his CIA bodyguards instead of by european bodyguards and without those CIA bodyguards blair’s a dead man.
it is simply a matter of logistics and perception.
if american bodyguards are protecting the EU president then the EU looks weak, too weak to defend itself.
innit.
Go for it, tat.
Oh Tat, you’re a tonic on a monday morning!
The population of Europe is 731,000,000 so that’s a lot of potential snipers.
Your faith in the accuracy and availability of freelance snipers is touching.
Gordon in NI today. Perhaps one of them thar dissident groups could do us all a big favour although I guess their aims (total annihilation of the UK) are best served by leaving the Maximum Imbecile in post.
You were wrong about the Alan the Postman becoming P.M. Browns still there.
time will tell, antisocialcitizen.
your comment is premature.
oh and don’t be so fucking cheeky you wanker: you are a part time troll anticitizen, you only turn up here monday-friday.
you fucking lightweight.
what’s the matter, the zionist lobby refuse to pay overtime?
fuck off part timer.
Projecting again TaT? You are the troll!
we shall let the reader decide.
ps. try to come up with some new lines you boring c’unt.
By the way – are Browns children at a state school?
His son went to the same state school and at the same time as my daughter. That was in the early days – I suspect it will be the last time any of that family see the inside of a state school again.
Sorry, misread your question – I was talking about Blair’s child.
Morning schmorning – rename this post “Rich and Mark’s All Day View” immediately!
phUK EU Tony
Y phUK EU(r) HO 2
Scruffy, bit of a waker and Irish
Who could that be ??????
Brian Cowen?
sure I’m the biggest wanker going. much bigger than plastic paddy pizza boy.
BIFFO… Big Ignorant Fucker from Offaly
I Don’t see what wavy dave can do. The Queen has already sealed off our ratification of the treaty, so even if the people vote know they can’t overturn the Queen saying Yes.
To be honest I think the Queen has let her subjects down over this. She should have kicked Gordon’s arse and told him to as the people.
I wrote to Her Majesty stating the same points as you, without intimating that I believe her gracious Majesty had in fact done a dis-service to her people.
I always thought that when push came to shove, our Queen would make some subtle statements as to being most dis-pleased.
I doubt our Queen knows the level of support she would receive if she had gone toe to toe with this cabal of crooks masqueading as a British Government.
I believe that support for her would have been over whelming – a word from her & she could call a million patriots to the Mall with the sworn intent of marching on parliament & dissolving it – dissolving it with extreme prejudice.
Did you get a hand written reply?
Could be worth a bit in future.
I don’t do subtle.
Mrs Righty right, where have you been? You haven’t been around for ages!
HM Queen is head of the armed services, and it is her job to protect the sovereignty of the UK. As you say, what’s the point of the Qeen and her well funded family if she fails to carry out her primary duty?
That bitch is in this up to her neck. Can the Sovereign technically be a traitor? I’m no expert in Constitutional law, but I know where that old cow’s loyalties lie, and it ain’t with the British people nor their exemplary armed forces.
Yes, the monarch can be technically in breach since 1688 (Glorious Revolution) when Parliament decided that James II was conspiring to sell out to a foreign power (Louis XIV). Sent an invitation to William of Orange and Mary to take over on Parliament’s terms.
So, if the Queen DID try to do something, Brown would have her off the throne immediately.
Then there WOULD be a civil war, which is probably why Her Majesty will not do anything precipitous…
Well I wasn’t amused when She had a Volkswagon product for her latest Limo.
Billy Hague’s speech is being repeated on Parliament tv,missed it this morning.
Abridged version from ITN
Nobody does a speech like william. I hope gordon saw it and realised what a rubbish speaker he is by comparison. And wasn’t it nice to see such a crowded hall – so different to labour’s empty seats last week.
Oh Dear gordon nearly at the end of your road.
Full version? Please.,,,,
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Nice one Axe!
Well done – and hat-tip to Swiss Bob I assume from the caption.
All very well listing out problems, how are you going to fix them?
Remember well the words of Reagan(PBUH).
“Government doesn’t fix problems it subsidises them”.
Let’s remove the failure rewards and success punishments that underlie so many of this countries problems.
Shouldn’t that read : Ready, for a change.
Maybe he expects you to throw coins at him. I WILL!
Boris is using all my bloody lines – from here.
Wanker bankers generate taxes… for roads… I didn’t bloody know that.
Yes. And we remember a lot of the other crap Reagan came out with.
Like: And there is no word for freedom in the Russian language.”
That was utter bollocks. As was much else of what he said. When he didn’t have a film script written by someone else.
Got to admit he’s good!,as i got through watching it and i didn’t want to hit him !!.
Look on the bright side! IF that tony bastard blair DOES accede to the European throne, he’ll have to take his ‘humanity flea ridden loud mouthed wife’ with him. They’ll be resident in Europe, and not in England. HIP HIP HIP HOORAY! HIP HIP HIP HOORAY!!!!!!!!hip hip hip hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
His Tonyness & slotgob are in fact non doms for tax purposes.
We only get the pleasure of their compnay 90 days a year, I believe.
90 days too many!
Can’t fault him for that. I think any number of people would love to avail ‘emselves of a similar rule. Particularly when you look at what the evil, lying, mendacious, incompetent, fuckwitted Labour government do with your tax money.
Let’s face it. She’ll absolutely Wow the Europeans with her sense of fashion. Not.
All the same £700,000 per annum for five years seems rather expensive to make sure that they stay away from Britain.
I’ll give’m £1m to saty away for life.
Money well spent.
Enough to make Cherie open her mouth.
What news from Toryfest Guido?
http://www.ukip.org/content/latest-news/1273-tory-defectors-line-up-to-join-ukip
Yes what news from Toryfest and can this news above be elabourated upon from your festy contacts?
erm no, ukip isn’t resistance, its support for brown. How difficult is that to understand ?
It’s no such thing you fucking knob-head.
Don’t be daft.
Vote UKIP get Labour
thankyou for proving my point that the tories have no popular support.
well done ATTT.
good job!
Vote labour, get Blair,
Vote Tory, get Blair,
Vote UKIP to tell Blair to fuck himself!
How difficult is THAT to understand?
What is the point of Cameron if Blair becomes the President?
I have yet to hear a real tory answer that one!
No referendum no vote. How difficult is that to understand ?
Didn’t realise that Napoleon Blair plays golf!!
Isn’t that a pitch-mark repair tool attached to his bicorne ?
I just want to humbly thank people for voting me in in the first place.
But hey – trust me – I’m kinda straight.
Kinda? What a guy!
Ah, yes, Blair being president of the EU; that’s everyone’s worst nightmare.
Vote in a new government, then have Blair do his best to supercede all our laws via the EU, with Brown being Blair’s “advisor”.
Can you imagine what would happen in America if, after Obama becoming president, Bush had just said “what you say, Obama, is irrelevant; my party’s just been booted out because of ruining the economy and starting an illegal war, but I’m going to run an organisation which can force you to do whatever we want you to do and there’s fuck all you or the electorate can do about it” ?
There’d be an immediate civil war if that kind of thing happened in the states. It wouldn’t just be a polite demonstration; they’d have full blown civil war, and rightly so.
Cameron; get off your arse and tell the electorate that you simply won’t accept a situation of blair (or some other labour bastard) becoming president of the EU. If that means leaving the EU then so be it. Some things (notably our own basic democratic freedoms) need to be stood-up for, some things are absolute and should never be allowed to happen. Would Churchill have said “well, at least the Nazis can run their trains on time, so let’s just join them” ?
Brown & Blair back on the same team?
Oh it will be great to get the band back together.
Did I tell you they are the Lennon & McCartney of the political world?
Great guys – such vision.
Laurel and Hardy, …..except I love Laurel and Hardy. Laurel and Hardy – their totally incompetent, inept part.
What is Straw then.. their performing monkey?
An inappropriate flyer allegedly.
Obama wants to join the ICC and do EXACTLY that to the next President.
er, you backed the midget john mccain, didn’t you?
YOU LOSER ANTICITIZEN.
“There’d be an immediate civil war if that kind of thing happened in the states. It wouldn’t just be a polite demonstration; they’d have full blown civil war, and rightly so”
Yeah, ‘cos they still have their guns, “the right to bear arms”!
The BBC has managed to convince us that we don’t need guns in the UK. They, and the allied conspiracy to rewrite history, (also known as the department of education) further managed to convince Brits that we’ve never been an armed citizenry (y’know, that Bill of Rights must have been written just for a laugh) and even make us forget that til 1920 you would walk down the street toting a revolver or anything else you damn pleased. Anyone who wants an armed citizenry is a nut – according to them – and people like George Orwell who though it essential for liberty that the workman’s cottage should a have rifle on the wall well…. that was *then* eh? Things are different now. We don’t need guns, we have the government to look after us. And they’re nice. And they’ll *always* be nice…
What fools we were to waltz gently into this disarmed, impotent, fucking helpless state. Too trusting by half.
Guns would have been handy, but we don’t really need anything more than sheer weight of numbers if truth be known. And that’s one thing we will have in due course.
No. You need direction. Purpose. You need an enemy too. What are we fighting? Fog.
When you outlaw guns, the reesult is that only the outlaws have guns…
And coppers
“Would Churchill have said “well, at least the Nazis can run their trains on time, so let’s just join them” ?”
With the benefit of 60 years of hindsight, perhaps he should have.
Being a computer hoon I can’t get this to work..but most of Hagues’ speech is on YouTube now…posted by Daily Politics.
Must dash then. Hang on my medicine’s arrived.
Oh..it does seem to work!!
The Irish have given the peoples of Europe the “Kiss of Judas” and for a few coins too.
To be expected, to be sure to be sure.
Thick morons have sold themselves and the rest of the free world into Eurobondage, and their kids also for a couple of bucks.
Wait until the tit runs dry and they get fucked over by their new pals Blair the unelected and Milliband the asslick…not forgetting Mr Creedy mandleson.
I will just laugh at them.
Which Miliband? David the black-eyed Zionist? Another space on the scaffold required.
I should buy shares in a rope manufacturer, we will need LOTS of strong rope! And cages to display the bodies in!
This is a sovereign nation, Parliament is STILL sovereign as Christopher booker noted in 2002:
If only Cameron had the balls to enshrine our soveriegn law as being paramount over EU diktats in some sort of British Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Perhaps that is what he means by not letting matters rest?
I hope we have definitive answers by the time the next election is called. Unlike some, I do not give a rat’s ass if Cameron does not want to answer what that means now, or not give a promise now. I mean, in 7 months, most people will have completely forgotten what was and was not said at this tory conference.
So long as I know at the time I am about to place my X on a ballot paper, what Cameron means by not letting matters rest, That will satisfy me.
If he does NOT stand up for British Sovereignty, he will NOT get my vote. END OF!
it’s all going perfectly
It is’nae fair.
It’s mee who shood’bae Prus’dant.
Ah saved tha’ wuld,
an nuthn’s ma fult!
How long before this blog is targeted by the European Security Services – seeking out political dissent & incorrect thinking?
The new Stasi are about to be unleashed upon us all.
They will be chucking EU arrest warrants around here faster than Fuhrer Blair to speaking tour.
Looks like the answer is 11 minutes anon. Welcome back MB – bit too quiet for you on Labour List is it? Will the last person to leave the Labour party please turn the lights out – leaving them on is contributing to fictional anthropogenic global warming.
All your IP addresses are being logged, you’re going to be reported to the Equality Commission for the thought-crime of racism under the ‘EU anti-racism(anti-european) directive’ – trial in Bulgaria, minimum sentence 100 years, no jury, no defence allowed.
Accept it or you’re going to be labeled a little-englander.
Don’t tell him, Pike.
Xenophobia is of course a crime extraditable under the european arrest warrant already. We saw that ozzie feller detained at Heathrow for questioning the holocaust.
And the European Commission already have their own “security” force armed with assault rifles, fifty calibre sniper rifles, etc. Why?
Good question innit? Why…..
Sniper rifles??? Fuck me. Are you ‘aving a larf?
Nope.
Paul Van Buitenan – (this feller http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_van_Buitenen) – testified that when he announced his intention to go public on EC corruption, he was shown by a european commission security contractor invoices for pistols, sub-machine guns, hollowpoint ammunition (dum-dums), sniper rifles, silencers. Some of that has been admitted by the EC (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/1999/jan/08/4). However, Van Buitenan also told my then colleague at Index on Censorship, Michael Griffin, that he took this as a threat to him personally.
Now, the EC budgets have not been signed off for decades, hundred and hundreds of millions of euros have simply vanished. The EC is *known* to have funnelled a great deal of this money to the Mafia via bogus agricultural schemes in Italy, to criminal gangs in Greece for bogus tobacco farms. Do we assume this is accidental? Why? Decade on decade, hundreds of millions are distributed to murderous gangs, anyone who investigates is fired or disciplined, and when they turn against the EC, even get elected as MEPs, they find block votes preventing investigation (http://www.theparliament.com/no_cache/latestnews/news-article/newsarticle/eu-parliament-blocks-whistleblowers-bid-for-key-budget-post/) – and we think this is just evidence of incompetence? My arse.
There is something very rotten at the heart of Europe. There always was.
Guidiot the Oaf is this the opposite of ‘live’ blogging?
oh for fuck sake, would you please just kill yourself?
Good afternoon
There is reason to be concerned
Where is Guidiot the Oaf?
Where are his lame ill informed posts?
Have the completely a para chicks of the Conservitude party oafnapped him?
Seriously
But surely Labour acted illegally?
They told the country that we would have a referendum on Lisbon. So the country voted them into power. They did not hold that referendum and Brown slithered over to Lisbon when everyone had gone home a signed away the UK’s sovereignty to a European power. At the same way pathing a way for Blair into the presidency.
They also told the country that Blair would serve a full third term and of course if had done then he would not able to be European president.
All this plus Blair’s change of Religion to Catholicism shows that Blair was plotting to be EU president many years ago. A whole country’s sovereignty thrown away just for one man’s ego. (probably 2 as Mandelson will be involved too)
Ha ha like we care – I get to own another mansion!! You racist!
Worth sqaut though. Want a couple of mine?
After being taken to court (and winning) because they reneged on their promise to hold a referendum on Lisbon, Labour are the only party proud to enter the next election with a genuine legal precedent proving a Labour Manifesto is a load of lies.
“You can trust us to lie to you. Vote Labour”
That was only *technically* a promise.
No worse than say…well forgetting to pay the congestion charge.
The bastard mustn’t be allowed to get away with this….
Dan Hannan the cod politician’s gone to Iceland.
The Icelanders said he’s not welcome his ‘free market’ claptrap deep fired their haddock and cooked their goose.
Now they can’t wait to join the EU.
Usually you are almost coherent – have you been drowning your sorrows with Meths again?
Opposition is really all you are fit for.
Once the grown ups are in charge again you can fulfill your potential – sniping your treasonous claptrap from the sidelines.
Have a shit day.
Dan Hannan used to love Iceland and its bucaneering ways so much he went there for his stag night.
If he went back now with his ‘free market’ hogwash they’d truss him up like a dead deer.
Unsurprsingly the Icelanders are feeling a bit disenchanted with the ‘free market’ and its proponents like Dan Hannan.
He has the wierdest demeanour he really should be shown more on television as a warning to children about the effects of excessive self abuse. Look at the eyes, look at the eyes.
MB Have you ever been there? No thought not.
Be assured I have and am working for an Icelandic company as we speak as one of my customers. Be also very assured they hate Brown to the core and the Labour party almost as much and cannot wait for them to be kicked out. They have the chmapers already ordered.
They also happen to Like Dan as well as he told your idiot McDoom to go fuck himself. I was up threre when he made the speech. The cheers were deafening.
Next time post on spmething you know so probaly you wont be posting again in that case.
I’ve been to Iceland(without Mum)…
Only two words,Top Totty!
True…Brown is detested by the European Left as a traitor to Socialism given his sponsorship of the banking debacle of the City. When ever Eurosocialists want to put a bit of fear into their core voters they warn them that if they vote for anything other than Socialism they’ll end up with British Working conditions and the NHS as it is. That really gets the converted going.
July 2009, Icelandic Pariliament votes to apply to join the EU.
Dan Hannan is crying, the cod politician, look at the eyes the eyes, literally they swivel.
swivelling eyes ? Balls.
Is that Hannan the Yankee?
Yeez’ll notice his mobile phone disnae works right aifter he’s opened his gub.
MP ‘has bags packed by Bin Laden’…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218007/MP-says-bags-packed-Bin-Laden-violently-ill-plane–sends-letter-complaint-Virgin.html
Ah huv tae laugh at yon English Tories worryin’ aboot the Irish.
Since whan wiz that?
At least thay hud the good sense tae boot you wideboys oot lang ago.
Where is a east European sniper when you need one ?
But Gordon’s in n Ireland.
we need 646 snipers.
I have just had this rejected from the BBC HYS “debate” on the Irish vote:
“I would like to remind the younger pro EU members of this forum about some other European political movements that truly believed it was in everyones best interests to unify Europe by any means necessary:
* Fascism
* National Socialism
* Communism
* Socialism
All of these movements wanted a single European entiry.
None of them were democratic either.
Great Britain out. ”
Can anyone tell me what myopic, BBC groupthink rule I broke?
The bore rule.
are you on a productivity bonus this week?
hey, you break it all the time masterbaiter.
try to post an interesting comment for once.
thankyou.
Boring is de rigueur here as proven by Seroxat tat.
The question was about BBC rules.
fuck off wanker.
Bash ‘is ‘ead in titfer
The tossing in your own mouth rule. Now shit op.
The Labore rule
Can anyone tell me what myopic, BBC groupthink rule I broke?
Telling the truth. They don’t like it up ‘em.
I always ask their mods what rules I broke – never had a reply. I reckon they think that’s a victory of some kind for them and their censorious lefty ilk. One day they’ll discover it wasn’t.
You people are plain daft trying to contribute to the BBC’s various sites. They only publish what suits their loony-leftie agenda; they’re not interested in contrary views at all.
Missus
gies a break. Ted Heath wiz a fascist? closet gay maibe but fascist, no way.
Explain.
Wiz it no Ted Heath that took uz in tae EURUP?
AlJaBeebya is a socialist organisation.
It’s stated claim is to entertain and inform. It’s real aim is the opposite.
To depress and misrepresent is it’s real aim.
You gave people hope that our enemy the EU can be defeated.
Do what I do: ditch the BBC. I’ve not listened to Radio4 (or any of the other number) or watched a BBC TV programmes for 4 years, and I feel great. It is utterly pointess complaining to the BBC. Like a Labour government, they never admit to mistakes or to bias. For entertainment they are crap; for infomation they are useless; for honesty they lie. Watch the other channels and listen to Classic fm, but avoid the BBC. Eventually (I’m not promising when, but it *will* happen) the BBC will die.
I totally agree.
Don’t pay the licence fee and don’t be intimidated by the BBC’s meaningless threats.
Say nothing and don’t let them in your house; they have no right of entry.
Ross broke the law regarding obscene telephone calls and was paid 6 million pounds as a reward.
Worthless scum.
Quite right.
When my current telly dies, or analogue is turned off, I shall cease to pay the TV Polltax.
Overhead projector, a lap top and loads of DVDs is the future of home entertainment.
Fully agree. To hell with the BBC.
Do what I do: ditch the BBC. I’ve not listened to Radio4 (or any of the other number) or watched a BBC TV programmes for 4 years, and I feel great
Some of it is good. Attenborough, Top gear – I’d be happy to pay for that. But most of the rest is shite – propagandist shite, moreover – and I *will* not pay for it. They’re more than welcome to take me to court.
Give yourselves a treat – I accidentally found myself on BBC3 called… Stupid vs Clever, or something like that. The most astounding cack I have ever seen. *Nothing* i have ever seen here or abroad comes close. Just awful. Watch it. You will never pay the telly tax again. You may find your jaw actually hits the floor.
And what a tonic it is to wake up every day knowing that not only do you not have to watch shite that evening, but you also aren’t contributing a single penny to Wossie, management, junketing et al!
I remeber this morning’s news on BBC24
One part of it highlighted some findings of some woodmen from the Arboretum in Gloucester. These findings revolved around the discolouration of Japanese Maples (Acers) in their forest. The suggestion was that this was due to climate change. The BBC interviewer asked what each of us back home could do about it. The reply was that we should all add mulch to the trees.
My response to that, after laughing for minutes, was that we should add some mulch to the BBC – right outside its front door! The assumption this this change to the trees was because of climate change, and that this was assumed to be correct by all concerned WAS BOLLOCKS – just like the BBC
Everyboady kens Tory policy oan Eurup is fur fruitcakes.
see a’ yos conspiracy theorists wae yer daft lounge bar Tory eurononsense, ah’v got news fur yeez.
Cameron will never, as in never, haud a referendum oan Eurup. Even if he did win an election.
Yiz are comical, so yiz are.
Well you are certainly not comical, in fact you are seriously unfunny. Are you really a mindless sweaty, or is this just a wind-up? Hostility to the EU in general, and the new constitution in particular, runs far wider than just Tories, as polls consistently show. Go back to bankrupt, Soviet Scotland and stay there. Remember that although the financial crisis began in America, our share of its losses was incurred in Edinburgh, so we don’t take kindly to abuse from neds like you when you have pissed away our money.
Well you are certainly not comical, in fact you are seriously unfunny. Are you really a mindless sweaty, or is this just a wind-up?
aH NO A mONGREL ANYWIY, PAL
what language is that 526 speaking in?
Hostility to the EU in general, and the new constitution in particular, runs far wider than just Tories, as polls consistently show. Go back to bankrupt, Soviet Scotland and stay there. Remember that although the financial crisis began in America, our share of its losses was incurred in Edinburgh, so we don’t take kindly to abuse from neds like you when you have pissed away our money.
500 posts, and no mention of this odious war-mongering creep’s job with the banksters JP Morgan Chase. No-one is quite sure how much he is being paid, estimates range from $1m to $5m a year, but it’s certain he doesn’t have to go into the office. Would this nice little earner continue in office as President “Teflon Tone” B’Liar?
Not in dispute either is that JP Morgans in London are being investigated by the FSA for pooling clients’ assets with its own for trading with, after which the banksters are unable to account for £8.5 billion (sic) of clients’ money. That’s an awful lot of moolah.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/article-1205631/Customer-probe-Blair-bank-targeted-8-5bn-FSA-probe.html
JP Morgan Chase said: ‘We have no comment.’
The FSA said: ‘We wouldn’t comment on whether we are doing an investigation.’
KPMG [accountants] also declined to comment.
No comment it is then.
Blairs not in it for the dollars- sorry, “Euros” he’s in it for the power aspect.
The attraction to lording it over a couple of billion people with his shitgobbed lower chav class missus is the prime reason for him to be ensconced in that position.
quite what the tories think they can do about it is beyond me, in fact itll give him a hard on (well a limp semi maybe) to think he’ll have gotten one over on them as well, “im senior to you camo “, that kind of thing.
If cambodian thinks the likes of Tony B Liar is listening to anything he has to say, well he’s in a world of his own…pillock him.
besides, he’s got all his mates in eurolalaland to support him, so he’ll support them. All good friends and jolly good company.
Remember this is the Hunt who cocked a deaf un when over a million people protested about Iraq, who continues to think he’s right, likely had Kelly knocked off and has taken taken and taken since he got in to authority- the continued allure of such power doesnt fade with a pond dweller of his stature.
The only positive thing about him getting the position is that a couple of billion people will be gunning for him, hopefully he’ll get his for the lives he’s destroyed.
Like shit, blairs floating to the top.
BLIAR IS THE CONSUMATE PIMPLE ON THE DREGS OF SOCIETY
O/T but Gordoom has been helping hardworking families again:
Prime Minister Gordon Brown has announced that the Government will scrap tax and National Insurance Contribution exemptions for childcare vouchers provided by an employer. In its place, he is offering free childcare for 250,000 two-year-olds.
‘In his keynote speech to the Labour Party Conference in Brighton on 29 September, the Prime Minister said that from April 2011 employees who join an employer-supported voucher scheme will not be entitled to the existing exemptions. This will have a major impact on salary sacrifice schemes, casting doubt over the future of what had been a popular employee benefit, saving employers thousands of pounds’
Scorched earth time again and the BBC seem to have missed this.
http://www.payrollworld.com/magazine/article.php?id=817
Be very suspicious of politicians who want the Government to be the monopoly provider of childcare.
The Hitler Youth movement springs to mind.
Bet the EU will go for it though. Right up their street.
and the Young Pioneers so beloved of the great Uncle Joe.
Blair: I am only obeying my orders…
Cameroon: So am I.
UKIP: Can you hear what the people want yet?
How can Blair even begin to accept an appointment like this when in reality he should be being PM now?
Er, no. He should be at The Hague now.
exactly one or the other – but he shelved being pm as he could not be arsed to do a full term even though some muppets voted for him and yet before that term ends he will pop up as european president? how can that happen?
Corporate Facism?
And also OT, but what the fuck has happened to this latest Harriet “Death Race 2000″ Harman story? The MSM appear to have decided it unhappened.
ain’t seen ‘unhappened’ before – like it
very New Labour – are they tossers?
what death race 2000 story? harman has never broken the law, ever, she wouldn’t, ever……..
Bye Bye British Sovereignity
wavy Davy Cameron is Ken Clarke’s little bitch now
No, he is President Blairs bitch now.
UKIP is a fringe party full of nutters, trolls and single-issue fanatics. The only way to keep the Great in Great Britain is to vote Labour. It wasn’t Farage, Cameron, or Calamity Clegg who saved the world. It was none other than Gordon Brown.
It is also only Gordon who is keeping your house price propped up. If the awful Tories got in they would let prices crash thus destroying the British economy.
You would be wise to remember that next May.
the British economy is destroyed thanks to Brown – 10 years in the job, eradicated boom and bust but didn’t see a huge recession coming and then claimed to have saved the world – what a chump.
Low house affordability only benefits governments and banks at the expense of the population as a whole.
Hence the current economic collapse.
CMD is just a fucking Blair clone so far as I can see. UKIP will be getting my little X next time around.
whoaarrr must be getting into double figures now
Wot wanka still stills Tory?
Try posting in English next time.
UKIP can deliver anything that Dave can promise. Except Dave needs permission from the EU masters which he won’t get if it in anyway undermines the French or Germans. So forget any help for business because it will be taken away or disallowed. How can he cut EU red tape?
http://www.ukip.org/content/latest-news/1273-tory-defectors-line-up-to-join-ukip
except a parliamentary majority
Dream on Tories. As long as Gordon Brown keeps house prices propped up around current levels he wil win the next election. Without high house prices this country is nothing.
until the next bubble bursts?
They’re crashing round here. Sales volumes are half what they were 18 months ago. Some higher priced properties are still selling and they have given the false impression that prices are going up but it’s all smoke and mirrors.
No.
He put an end to boom and bust.
Low Property affordability is another form of “greater sucker” investment whereby you hold it until you can pass it onto another sucker at even higher cost…
No ponzi scheme has ever survived, and none ever will.
Wonderful, all new small business opportunities will now be on hold until May.
That will make sure that real unemployment figures will be the highest ever by May. Lots of companies will also be going out of business in April.
Then everyone will be suddenly be re-employed in June with bonuses to thank them for the volunteer work they have done recently.
(PS. Don’t worry the precedent has been set, as some councils are using degree graduates volunteers to do core services under the guise that they are giving them work experience! Nothing more than slave labour.)
The coming years will be marked by a return to the advertising of just a handful of non-jobs in your local papers: leaflet distributors, commission-only salespeople, burger-flippers, telesales cold-callers and all that old shit we last saw in the early 1990s. Brown’s fucked us over good and proper. Poverty and unemployment here we come.
I’ve listened / watched Conservative Conference much of the day:-
it’s rather good – even better than hoped
we could come out of this much better than I thought (vote %-wise)
this exercise also reminds me of how really ‘controlling’ NuLiebor is and has been
You might have the crappy, chav-rag, the Sun, on your side but can’t beat Labour, the BBC and the Sky news combined.
Tories are fighting a losing battle. With Nick Robinson, Andy Marr John Pienaar and the boys on our side Labour will win the next election.
Your just saying that – teaser !
You don’t believe it – you’re not that stupid – you can’t be
Are you that stupid
are you on the same tablets as broon?
Yeah, right. Troll!
Just like driven snow – they will melt away – rightly fearing for there futures – knowing that if they step over the mark they will shortly be TOAST – they all know it – they all fear it – and so should you!
Nick Robinson
Andrew Marr
John Pienaar
I bet they would struggle to assemble a decent pair of bollocks between them
Marr thought he had a pube until he pissed through it
It does work for reproductive purposes though, ask AM.
Idiot.
We are trying to keep our outrageous bias secret.
Just shut up will you.
The only downside is having Eric Pickes and Alan Duncan there. Both troughers and doing immense harm t the Conservatives. Dave should ditch both.
PCIKLE ME THIS!
By george I think they have got it , I liked the practical help for small business and cutting of red tape for self employed , Wiliam Haugue was a very good attack on labour lies , George Young on parliament reform , quite an interresting mix and some of them so relevant I can hardly believe they have done so much homework , I may even go so far as to say genuine courage . Worth every penny so far . It look likes the lib dems could have made a strategic error conference wise and labour have no right to running the country .
absolutely – if it continues like this Libore is DEADER THAN DEAD
The one that suprised me as I don’t like him was Baker and his Technical schools,about time we stopped producing media studies schools and got down to producing engineers.
It keeps on coming – in torrents – NuLibor is shot to pieces – it won’t be able to respond – it’s truly fucked – and they know it
Like the parrot – wholly stuffed
Rejoice
Ceasars wife- UKIP can do that
Really ?
It seems UKIP can’t do anything without first threatening Cameron.
I suppose you’re afraid of Nick Clegg.
They do seem to attract the independent minded ! but those who dissent against state controlled socilialism have been under the cosh for some time
The BBC News coverage is terrible. Childish remarks and some bad loss of sound/pictures.
I think they are trying to make it look like wild animal watching as opposed to a party conference.
No man, they ain’t. Manchester is an awful long way away from Londinium and there are mountains and deserts to cross nevermind all those sarcy Mancs – one of them has proably found the mains plug and pulled it out, saying ‘aye lads, look what I found…!!!’
The Great Leader will be back, his intellect, honesty and judgement is without question or criticism.
She, the Great Mother, will be at his side and we shall bow before them!!
As Acolytes we are urged, neigh, required to join the Great Leader’s Faith Foundation, for that is the way to enlightenment.
May the Lord bless him and all who sail with him.
A-hoy!
http://tinyurl.com/y9qsdgj
Hannah and Cameroon agree – lets forget it….
Looks like they already have!
snot good enough. We want a referendum on our gov’nance. End of. (Literally)
We don’t negotiate unless we have a position to negotiate from. Vote UKIP
So why don’t you go campaign for one ?
Don’t see you on Labour sites. The government can give you one now, go ask them.
Vote Tory or get Brown. It’s the only game in town.
follow the party line and sell Britain out to europe my little Ted Heath alikes
How people like Putin, Obama and Hu Jintao must laugh to think of that cute little monkey styling himself President of Europe! Charlemagne, Napoleon and our own little Tone!
An organ-grinder’s monkey called Miranda. It’s purpose to hop about grinning to distract the attention of the public while collecting the brass.
Would a “President” Blair be immune to being summoned to the Iraq inquiry to give evidence?
He signed up to the International Criminal Court, so we might just see him carted off to answer for his ‘crimes’ …………. hopefully!!
Yes.
Its a French clause – called the “Chirac Get Out Clause”.
As they say in South America little crook goes to jail, big crook becomes
El Presidente.
Im going to vote NULAB co’s that fuckin’ moron CMD gets on my tits.
Two-faced get
Some people never learn…..
613
its GIT with an I you ‘planker’
could be a Scouser?
fuck you la, dats not funny dat isnt
And that’s the quality of the average labout voter.
And from that pool of crap they shoose their MP’s
God bye and good ridance.
thanks Gordon.
CUCKO0
Let me put this another way ……….
The toons are shit and have been on far too long…
Wake up you thicko
Agreed!
Im votin TORY BLUE
Cos I know Dave will be there for me.
….and for me!
Saying YES to REAL FARMERS
I want to rape Harriet Harman so she knows who boss
has anyone seen my daddy?
Is it Guido McForkes?
Dont worry chaps – BLUE LABOUR’s just around the corner, few more months and you wont even remember the difference.
Smells so Sweet!
Smells so REAL !
EDWIN BALLS HAS SUCKED COCK, EDWIN BALLS HAS SUCKED SEED. MI5 CAN’T TOUCH ME EDWIN THE LAWYERS HAVE GOT MY ACCOUNT.
IN TRENT COLLEGE WE TASTED EACH OTHER’S FRUIT
nice to see a bit of true British grit from the wild haired one
damn shame there are so many cowards in tory high command
I see that Labours’ official spokesbody,Pravda, are peddling the EU ‘Tory split’ like crazy.
It’s “threatening the first day of their conference”…extracts of Milibands letter to Hague (how the f*ck do they get to see it?) slagging their EU stance etc.
Tory benefits plans are crap..blah blah.
Now…I have not been avidly watching Manchesters’ shenanigans all day,but have picked up Camerons’ and Hagues’ speeches..and Boris with Brillo.
It seems to me that actually they have a good degree of agreement amongst them..and it’s entirely reasonable not to comit to a referendum if the Lisbon Treaty has already been ratified (including the UK).What the Hell could they change after the event????
Hagues’ announcement that any future Treaty would legally require a UK referendum seems to me to spike the guns of Tory critics..and gives clear direction.
But the BBC is clearly watching a different event.
Perhaps this is because the BBC knows something that you dont. Which usually explains situations that otherwise would may make little, or no sense at all.
First it has to become a well know fact of life, that the BBC is a part of the BRITISH therefore WORLD establishment working wholly for said establishment. The BBC has ALWAYS been doing so, whether a majority of politicians, or the victims employed by the BBC know it to be the case, or not.
Given the above crystal-clear, and over-established premiss.
Dialectics still have a role to play. Which is why Cameron has been instructed by his masters to form a new political grouping. This grouping will be as controlled by the establishment, as all other political groupings have always been. However if will serve the Common Purpose of creating a new type of establishment controlled dialectic opposition to full on Communism/Fascism.
I hope we can now see that our NEW WORLD ORDER is to be controlled by exactly the same people who have long since COMPLETELY controlled the OLD WORLD ORDER. You decide whether this is a good or a bad thing. I am getting rather frustrated having to do all of the real thinking round here.
The powers that be don’t care about the untaxable, because they have always had the peasant class eating from their hand, and as much as possible, very much ‘ living hand to mouth.’ What the establishment want is YOUR WEALTH and hard died for FREEDOMS, but that is not all. They want to continue to steal all of your future wealth as well, they can only wholly achieve this by persuading the countries wage slaves to continue to turn up at the office for work, on a cold and rainy Monday morning.
Thus the reason to sustain the illusion that there remains some kind of illusionary left right type debate going on. From which the establishment will select, in future without any reference to the will, or needs of the people, the exact same policies they always planned inflicting on us in the first place.
The forces of reaction may be on the rise, but they will be blown away, using the exact same methods of cruel and dishonest mind control that have always been used in the past.
You can’t teach an old dog new tricks.
These particular classically trained ravenous beasties only know a certain amount of tricks, our problem is that they ALL still work to day, every bit as well as they did in Roman, Greek or Egyptian times.
Perhaps Andrew Marr should have asked Gordon Brown if he had field tested this new NHS sympton checker?
This page should help Gordon with the help he so badly needs.
http://www.nhs.uk/ServiceDirectories/Pages/GenericServiceDetails.aspx?id=GS71145
Anon6ymous 390 – I thought that was disgusting of BBC to cut Hague off and tell us to tune in to BBC Parliament. They showed the whole of the speech by some Iranian a while back, we saw the whole Obamarama inauguration and only the other day they showed another Obamadrama from Mr and Mrs Obama when they begged for the olympics and yet they cut off one of the best speeches seen on TV for ages – William Hague. It’s time someone took the BBC to task but I don’t suppose anyone has the courage to do so. Writing to complain to the BBC does no bloody good whatsoever. Snoddy has people on his show and they always deny they got it wrong.
Why the hell do we have to pay the TV license TAX?
Why the hell do we have to pay the TV license TAX?
You don’t. Just stop. Tell them to fuck off. You dont’ have to do anything you don’t want to do.
Stop paying it like i did 5 years ago
Just be thankful they haven’t used one of their transmitters to jam any signals from Manchester, although somebody did say something about wobbly pictures and loss of sound, Hmmm!
They kept cutting to some dog sat down looking bored while the scottish woman was talking.
The choice between paying the tv license or eating this winter isn’t a hard choice for me to make.
They haven’t made a decent programme since the 70′s anyway in ones opinion.
I would like to see the Conservatives set up an independent monitoring organisation to report on how well the BBC is achieving impartiality leading up to the election.
The BBC’s future can then be reviewed in the light of the report. If they fail the test, the licence fee goes completely and the BEEB is on its own.
Choose the right people and it would work.
http://www.biased-bbc.blogspot.com/
http://www.labour-watch.com/bbcbias.htm
Have a shufty at these for BBC Bias…
BTW, watch the ten o clock news tonight.
Last Monday the Labour conference got the first eight minutes, and the last seven. There were no Tories on the programme, matter of fact there was no criticism or opposition whatsoever to anythign said by Labour.
Let’s see if the same happens tonight.
And if it doesn’t, complain. Demand that the BBC abides by its own charter.
Let’s see what happens.
The BBC are signing their own death warrant. Cameron will unleash Lord Tebbit on them. It will be a blood bath. I can’t wait
CLOSE DOWN THE BBC
let them all go on government training schemes for a real job in manufacturing – you know, something that will get us out of this bloody mess
Quite. The BBC was set up before commercial channels were available to inform and entertain. Now, with so many alternatives what’s the point of them and why are we expected to pay a licence fee to the Beeb in order to be able to watch the commercial channels?
Anyone see Freddy lad on crutches and Lineker in Afghanistan, no wonder he aint been on the site in a while he’s been hopping about giving the soldiers a boost.
Before the rats jump off the ship they run round in ever decreasing circles.
I have seen common sense spoken today at Manchester and so have thousands of other good folk but as far as the BBC is concerned any Labour biased slant will do and ITV and Sky are not much better.
The fact is No 10 is constantly on the phone to the MSM bullying them to toe the line and to wheel out another Labour minister to rubbish everything any Conservative says. It wont work the truth is as plain to see as the boil on my bum. This rotten Labour government is finished and so will be the BBC at this rate.
They must be crazy to behave like this but then this is their last stand before they jump into the abyss.
Tony Blair (aka: lying thieving war-criminal child-raping Hunt from the pits of Hell) will prolly get the job and start putting his family on the EUSSR gravy train, like that corrupt retarded Labour shit, Kinnock.
The corrupt Labour moron scum, Kinnock, had his ‘thick as pig shit’ screeching bitch wife, Glenys, mopping up £millions of gravy from EU taxpayers, and his retarded son, Stephen ‘Hunt’ Kinnock guzzling EU gravy. And, to complete the picture, the scum-sucking tramp, Rachel ‘bummer’ Kinnock was put on the gravy train to thieve from taxpayers without actually doing any work.
The Kinnocks are dirty loathsome family of retarded thieving Labour party shit. Enter the Blairs.
Tony lying thieving war-criminal child-raping Hunt from the pits of Hell Blair will put his stinking grabbing low-trash wife on the EU gravy train first -the evil vile nasty scummy scouse slag will demand maximum gravy. Then he will find a nice position for his daughter/girlfriend girlfireind/daughter, Kathryn ‘suicidal pig-faced slapper’ Blair. Then there is the retarded ‘dope’ son, Euan ‘mong’ Blair. Thre fucking idiot was given a scholarship to study some shite at Yale in the US. He’ll be right at the front of the gravy train – he’s an unemployable half-wit.
The Blair family are rancid evil Hunts. They should be banned from Europe and exiled to the filthy evil toilet that is the USA.
Look at the pig:
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/03_01/blair01ES_468x568.jpg
Very well thought through and articulate if I may say so.
But why spoil it with a link to his picture?
Guido, listen to fucking Five Live, those Labour vermin (Pienaar excluded) are running with nothing else.
Fucking Victoria ‘smug northern bint’ Derbyshire is all over it, the dumb slut has no other topic or question.
Tory MPs should steer well clear of that bunch of Labour activist scum
She’s got a face for radio has our lancashire lass.They tried her on a saturday morning tv slot but fish face scared the kids and did nowt for the dads.She’s no sally james.
I cant believe all this vitriol being aimed at our marvellous BBC,I should remind all of you that they are the salt of the earth.
As such they should all be put down a salt mine and the entrance blown up,the thieving lying Liebour bunch of freeloaders.