Cameron’s Drug Question Double Standards
Oddly Guido doesn’t recall anyone in the media saying it was unreasonable to ask Cameron if he took drugs in the past, why is it suddenly unreasonable to ask questions about the use of drugs by a politician? Kevin Maguire seems to have had the most dramatic change of heart on the issue.
Maguire says in the Mirror today that Andy Marr crossed a line and was disrespectful. Yet in February 2007 Maguire listed “10 unanswered questions” about Dave’s spliff habits, claiming “The character of a future Downing Street tenant is of crucial importance” and “David Cameron’s lofty refusal to discuss what he took and when he took it is contemptible”. This from the man who obsessively refers to Cameron as “druggie Dave” in the Mirror and the New Statesman. Is this an example of the kind of phraseology that Gordon Brown now thinks shouldn’t enter the political lexicon?
I suppose the Marr question was really asking the Prime Minister “are you fucking mental or what?”
Why has he not been asked about the flying Nokia problem and bullying at work?
Aethelred, are you really saying they should ask ‘are you fucking men ‘t ‘al?’
Where are my knickers?
bang out of order
Is this Maguire is trying to be funny.
Maguire is lower than vermin and should be hunted to extinction
Someone please explain…why has earned the soubriquet “Toilets”?
I believe he was caught by the plod hanging outside womens public loos listening to them pee for some kind of sexual kick – that is what some people here have said before.
people have also said cameron was buggered senseless by osborne in bullingodon so it must be true
Interesting Simon. If true (and as its a rumour probably a very BIG if) I cannot believe it hasn’t been followed up…
Lower than vermin…he is a bloody angel compared to the bunch of weird nazi fuckers on this site….all of which are following a rer
peated convicted drink driver…..oh the irony.
Bloody hell! This blog really winds you up, doesn’t it.
Have you considered medication? It’s all the rage, I’m told…
Come on Gordon, time for your medication.
Compared to commie twats like you, Mother Theresa looked like a fucking nazi.
At least she didn’t name herself after female sanitary ware.
It would certainly liven things up a bit. Nothing like a bit of honest dialog to cut through the bullshit, or in Brown’s case, the elephantshit.
Where can I get some of these obesity pills cheap ?
marr thinks he’s the new messiah because he’s stopped using medicated shampoo
Thank you GF, truly…..
“The character of a future Downing Street tenant is of crucial importance” and “Gordon Brown’s lofty refusal to discuss what he took(amphetamines, intravenously) and when he took it (injected by doctor directly prior to speeches and PMQ’s) is contemptible”
with a couple of tat adjustments your statement is bang on the money kev!
it is simply unacceptable to have a fucking junkie like brown in charge.
I mean, you cannot have a PM injecting amphetamines and then going into the house of commons to answer questions whilst high on amphetamines.
it is just not fucking on.
is it.
Dave could bring a “Ghetto Blaster” into the house on PM questions. If say Gurning Gord was on speed then he’d have to dance.
I reefer the honourable gentleman to the hug I gave earlier.
coke does the same much thing doesn’t it dave ?
*sniff* *sniff*
I smell hypocrites
I take it all back: if Gordano were to leap about in the Commons on a Thursday morning a la Bez from the Happy Mondays to some bangin’ choons he’d get my vote. No question.
The only thing our great leader is taking is our money and the piss
When you think about it when has he ever given any sort of an answer at pmq’s?
Answering any question while your as high as a kite,apart from
repetitive cliches and tractor statistics,is probably all any politician could muster.
When’s the hanging TAT and can I get it on freeview?
There again…… :-[
He should have asked how his extra marital shagging has affected his bastard child’s relationship with ‘Daddy’ and see how he liked it?
WTF?
Yep I reckon you are spot on there. “PM are you mental?”
But he could have added that he keeps changing history on a daily basis except that he believes he saved the world and is in complete denial about his time as Chancellor.
Marr would have done better not to ask him but tell Gordon that he is Stark raving BONKERS.
I should think what the PM is taking now whilst supposedly in charge is a hell of a lot more relevant than what DC did or didn’t take years ago when he wasn’t…They just don’t like it up ‘em, do they?
Good point.
well said
Guido banned your earlier posts for using the same name – just a matter of time I hope.
Precisely.
I care if someone is driving when drunk or drugged up but I’m not concerned about someone having a beer when they aren’t driving.
I think that is just too complex for these idiots to understand.
With Mandy up to 1400 RPM for the next 8 months, who will be holding Maguire and his ilk to account?
NG, that’s the point exactly. It’s about what someone IS taking and whether that affects their ability to do what we pay them to do.
If Cameron HAS a grug habit, that is certainly relavent, thay he may have dabbled in a few dodgy substances as a student 20 years ago is really neither here nor there
Tim Montgomery from ConHome has just been on Radio 4/PM saying that the Blogosphere is irresponsible and shouldn’t do tittle tattle and rumours.
What a hoon.
Also Guido, Dahhhrrrling, Old Holborn broke the Brown on Pills Story on 4th September, not the Indy, a fucking week later.
Why on earth not? Hardly much fun without tittle tattle and rumours….
Guido was referring to the MSM, we of course all saw it on your throbbing organ and errrm, at the source.
If the issue is important, which it is, then answers should be sought not from those will always plead ‘medical and therefore confidential’ but from the Cabinet Secretary. He shoud be asked:
1) are there protocols in place to deal with the possiblity of a PM whose judgement is or may be either temporarily or permanently impaired by a medical problem or course of treatment?
2) What advice is given to cabinet ministers about their responsibilities to report the circumstances as outlined above
3) in the case of 1) applying to a serving Prime Minister, who would be responsible for judging what action should be taken, when decisions taken should be countermanded and to whom in government prime ministerial authority would then devolve.
Easy answers, without going to the Cab Sec :
No, none and no one, respectively.
The irrational behavior of McKhaki has been obvious to the public for a very long time. The blogospere has merely given us for one possible explanation for it.
Montgomery was playing bloody clever. He took the moral high ground to say the blogosphere was irresponsible ‘to talk about Brown’s mental illness’ – when we all know that all Marr did (and what the BBC was trying to discuss) was talk about Brown’s ‘painkiller habit’. So now, the ‘mental illness’ that is Brown is well in the MSM, courtesy of the BBC PM Prog.
No, Montgomery was saying “you can buy me just like you can any MSM Journalist”
Old Holborn would have said “of course he’s on drugs, the fucking looney” and let them prove he ain’t.
Montgomery has a boss. I don’t.
;-)
Perhaps Guido or OH should be asking Mr Cameron the same question Marr asked Brown?
It certainly seems to have upset Tim Montgomery that the blogosphere dare be so impertinent.
Old Holborn is constantly on drugs and lots of them, the fucking looney let them prove he ain’t.
reminds me of the looney Glen Beck and all the mock-rape-murder sites that popped up taking the piss out of him doing the same retarded thing
rumours an gossip are rumours and gossip
nothing more
Also, when Marr starts asking Cameron (or other Tories) about their alledged use of mind-altering substances, Montgomerie can say “Tut, tut, said that was naughty, old chap” without being called a hypocrite.
Smart.
So no one can ask if Brown’s a nutter or Cameron is a cokehead.
I know this helps Montgomery, but how does it help you, I or the other 61,000,000 people who live under their rule?
We’re the blogosphere – or ‘public opinion’. What Montgomerie and MSM journo’s get up to doesn’t really affect what we type on here, though Guido has to be a bit more careful.
Montgomerie, being attached to a political party, has to be a bit more careful.
Yeah, yeah bro, we’re gonna have to cool it for a while baby.
The heat’s on Brown man, everyone has figured out he’s a speed freak, dude.
So to get them off my case I’m gonna have to make a bulk purchase to last me until the election. Sweet, here’s the list my man!
10 Kilos Columbian Flake (top grade)
5 Kilos Heroin Fair Trade if poss
10 Kilos Superskunk
the superskunk is optional but you gotta come through with the heroin dude.
I need that shit motherfucker don’t let me down baby.
Can you drop it round tonight?
Sweet.
Laters.
There is no longer a monopoly on control of information thanks to the internet. The “blogosphere” is simply one of the many facets of this modern phenomenon.
Tim Berners-Lee should be made a hereditary peer for what he has invented.
So Montgomery and his political party are more important than “public opinion” in a democracy.
I think not.
He can piss up a rope, the fuckstick.
yeah coz the blogosphere is public opinion and not the amusingly mad ramblings of a few obsessives who mistake ego for importance
Very very true, after all, as Iran is being lined up as the centrepiece of a potential nuclear war, we have a guy with his finger on the button who appears to be a total fucking mental case.
It is not only appropriate that Brown be quizzed on his mental state, it is fucking essential.
In fact Brown should present himself for a fully independent and public psychological mental health assessment.
Yep, you have to ask yourself whose finger is it on the nuclear button. Would you prefer a drugged-up Brown or a (reformed) Cameron? (Let alone all the other ancillary stuff – like the economy etc etc.)
What do you expect from such a slimeball,and his party?
Do anything ,including allowing Mandlebum to be their hero,to keep them in corrupt power.
Did mandlescum really say that newlabour should fight like insurgents? That man should be instantly arrested, he is a menace to society, if he did! He’s encouraging terrorism.
One good conference speech should not blind the party to the fact that Mandelson is the most loathed and detested politician in the country. When Brown goes, Mandelson has to be removed if Labour is to recover from the inevitable electoral disaster next year.
Brown’s decisions may be criticised because they are usually wrong, but Mandelson is the one advising him. He is a reminder to the voters of all that was wrong about the New Labour project – the spin, the lies, the hypocrisy. He will do his party more harm than good as long as he is in office.
I’m the same age as Brown and most of the Cabinet (although I look far more youthful, but then I haven’t spent my life as a bitter and twisted trougher) and anyone of my generation that says they haven’t at some point during their youth had a brush with drugs during the ’60s, ’70s and 80’s is an outright liar.
and 90’s, 00’s
Speak for yourself, which you clearly are, but plenty of people did not touch drugs in the 60s and 70. Not so sure about the 80s.
isn’t that a bit old to be ‘doing drugs?’
As a contemporary, Susie, I beg to disagree. While I was offered dope at university, being a non-user of tobacco, I did not come in a palatable formulation. Now if it had been in beer….
I didn’t touch them. Not that I wasn’t tempted, but you could see what was happening to those who did.
Fred you shouldn’t put yourself down so, you sound perfectly palatable to me. I’m always up for a nibble but then, if you don’t like my pipe smoke…
I managed to make it through the 70s, 80s and 90s without taking illegal drugs. That’s school, college and work; am I that exceptional?
er…a bit…
do you really live your life by the law for law’s sake, and be proud of that fact?
Fair enough what drugs you do/don’t decide to take, but choosing based on what government decides so they can control different markets is just odd.
… but labour has driven you to drugs in the 00s?
Then again, it could just be something like a fitness supplement you were innocently taking suddenly for no apparent reason became illegal as they did a few years ago. How do the moral overlords deal with that one?
Me too, unless you count underage beer drinking
So Susie, with your great expertise and knowledge of the world and its people, you see fit to call me (and many other people) an “outright liar”?
Speak for yourself – if you were too stupid in your youth to avoid the dubious temptations of illegal drug taking, don’t try and excuse it by coming with the old garbage about “everyone else did it so I did too”.
Some people actually have a spine and exhibited common sense even in their younger days. Just because you clearly did not, does not make you the touchstone of the behaviour and habits of more sensible people than you.
Did any of your ancestors break the law?
I never did illegal drugs but I did get utterly pissed at Number 11 in the 80’s
I was seven when the 60s ended. All I managed was asprin I think. I did get very ill on elderberries once.
But all the other decades, wallop. I did ‘em all.
Nothing now though – I’m a respectable family man.
Anyone fancy a pint?
Damn straight.
Hey: did you get a decent buzz of those elderberries? Ever tried the nutmeg trip?
Sorry Susie, I must be a puritanical little creep but I haven’t. Drugs of any sort just don’t appeal.
Oh well… I’d guess most of you didn’t go to university then.
Perhaps I should have said anyone in further education during the ’60s ’70s or ’80s etc… and a ‘brush with drugs’ doesn’t mean you personally indulged, just that it was commonplace at parties, rock festivals, and still is ever since.
My word, NuLaber puritanism’s done a great job over the years hasn’t it?
Hi Susie,
I was at uni in the early 70’s and most certainly did hash mainly in cakes if I remember. So did all my chums, it was a simple and cheap way to get your leg over.
No Susie, some of us did not go to Uni we were to busy working to pay taxes to keep arsoles like you in grant money.
When i started work I was paid £2 4/7p for 48 hours at 16, at 21 at the end of my apprenticeship I was getting £4 10 shillings (1963).
This is the reason some of us understand the value of money and are totally scared shitless of what these hoons are doing to the country.
My grant was £10 per term.
I worked my way through 5 years of college as an M&S Saturday girl and full time through the holidays, I think I got £3.75 a day. Evenings were spent working behind a bar in a pub. First job salary was £1,300 pa in 1973.
I have never been unemployed for more than a couple of months since and estimate I’ve paid £250,000 in tax during my working life…
Shut up you fucking fart; when I began my appreniceship I earned £72 -a YEAR! It’s not the drugs that I’ve enjoyed over the odd Saturday night – mary anne etc – that are the problem, but the dumb fucks who can’t enjoy them without being totally mental. Go back to your wine/beer/tobacco etc, you fud…
Fucking delicious!
Susie, give it a rest. You’re doing yourself no favours. Are you out of nappies?
Sorry Susie you are talking absolute cobblers.40 years ago this week had just returned from Morocco.I had been on an adventure holiday along with 11 other students from various higher education establishments.We spent six weeks travelling by Landrover camping in France,Spain and then Morocco.We kept meeting up with four blokes from City University who were travelling down to Sierra Leone on an expedition.None of us took drugs – even in Morocco. We had the most amazing experiences meeting incredible Moroccan people,went to a wedding in the middle of the night and watched as young boys danced.We met a young Min of Agriculture bloke who had his own orange groves and ate rabbit cooked in olive oil whilst listening to the Beatles.Also met a British woman whose husband was building a dam at Ksar es Souk.We stayed the night with her and went to the local Moroccan Army officers mess.They were really friendly.We certainly weren’t all keep-fit fanatics,just ordinary students looking for fun and adventure.Not everybody needs drugs to experience real life.
Also used to go to the Flamingo in Wardour Street,London in 1965/66 with my sister.Some people might have smoked a bit of dope and taken a few purple hearts to stay awake but drugs weren’t as widespread as people say.
Lucky old you! I couldn’t have afforded the fare to Morocco 40 years ago and my parents certainly couldn’t or wouldn’t have paid for it. You do realize you sound like a gay nazi don’t you? Meeting up with young blokes from City Uni, watching young Moroccan boys dancing and then back for more of the same at the Officers’ Mess…
I didn’t need drugs and never have done, nor did most of my friends — it was just a fact of life — they were around. So stick your holier-than-thou morality up your priggish bottom.
Sounds like you’re in dire need of an anger management course if nothing else.
‘Gay Nazi’ what a weirdo you must be.Also the ‘I couldn’t afford to go to Morocco’ blahblahblah class thing.I suppose the next thing you’ll say is that you lived in a council house. I have worked since I was 12.Cleaning cars,babysitting,working in the City during school holidays since I was 15 (which was allowed then),Post ofifice at xmas and a saturday job.So Susie or whatever your name is get the facts straight.As for meeting blokes.Didn’t meet many women in Morocco as they weren’t really allowed out.I suppose the nexy thing you’ll be saying is that I ws sh…….g them all.Pathetic……….
Errr S(n)oooze in Morocco women didn’t dance.,well certainly not in 1969.Traditionally it was the young boys.The older men played the music mainly flutes and drums, the women were in the background cooking the food.Nothing weird about that.Just your nasty twisted mind.Sure you’re not on medication?
Anyone who thinks the 60s and 70s were one long round of dope smoking and sunny days has swallowed the media spin hook line and sinker.
1. The penalties for being caught were far more severe than today
2. Many of us stuck to beer and fags like our parents and could not afford anything else
3. University was not an option for many – a contribution to the family coffers was required via a job upon leaving school.
I personally spent part of the 70s being spat on and shot at by IRA freedom fighters.
Lovely ’twas not.
Susie, I am the same age and I have never taken drugs. So stop generalising you fuckwit
Ah but I’m an experienced fuckwit. You are (as we used to say in those days) a boring uptight straight.
Another here who neither touched Illegal substances .. or went to University & unashamedly is quite proud of both .. and I went through the 60’s .. 70’s 80’s & 90’s …
I may be boring, but I never sold my Hoon for a fiver
Nor have I.
Why assume a quick toke now and again automatically dooms everyone (women in particular) to a life of prostitution and criminality? You sound like the stupid drama queen you probably are.
I fail to understand why those who do not feel in any way attracted to drugs are assumed to be ‘lacking in experience’ , boring, ‘not in further education’, straight etc,. In fact, in life it is far more difficult to go against the grain and not go along with the common practices of one’s peers. I think you’re jumping to conclusions there Susie!
I cannot understand how anyone can feel superior for never taking drugs, or for that matter, feel superior for taking drugs. It matters not a fuck!
You are all different. That, believe it or not, is a fucking good thing OK. Has 12 years of labour brainwashing left you all feeling that you must all be the same?
If you took drugs, had great experiences on them and broadened your horizons and never hurt anyone, then good for you.
If you never did, and feel proud that you resisted peer pressure and have your own independent mind, then that is just as good!
I never drank alcohol, but I did do a lot of cannibis in the 1990s. I stopped when I had enough and all of it was through my own free choice. I never hurt anyone, lost a job, caused anyone any problems, had a great time and loved every minute. I used it a lot, but then got to a point where I never felt like using it anymore and stopped. I have never regretted the drugs I did, and never regretted stopping. I never gave in to peer pressure over any of it.
The sad fucks are those that gave in to peer pressure, or parental pressure to not act as they would have liked. Those that were uncomfortable taking drugs, but gave in too peer pressure, or those that wanted to do drugs, but daren’t.
In short, get the fuck over yourselves!!!
Quite so Ned.
Actually I’ve a lot more respect for people I know who’ve been in a hole and got themselves out of it without causing any damage to themselves or others around them, than the hysterical moralizing puritans on here.
My husband is a case in point. He got a triple first at Cambridge in a science after 3 years spent doing industrial quantities of acid while there. He then went on to found 4 very successful companies and has kept several hundred people in employment. He’s always maintained that his acid experiences gave him insight into both his own thought processes and those of other people.
Susie, you’re still suggesting that not taking drugs is beneath your contempt. I don’t look down on people because they’re alcoholics, drug addicts, chain smokers, etc. I feel sorry that they were sucked in to a way of life that causes such pain to themselves and others. We all suffer difficulties in life that we must overcome, we learn that very early in our lives, and know that drugs will only exacerbate not help the situation.
Well I’m trying to make up for the missed opportunities now. It’s the only way to get through my day, man……
Ah you can imagine the line – illegal drugs are illegal, which is an issue in itself, but *prescription drugs* form part of an individual’s medical history which must be considered a *private* matter.
Just like Charlie’s alcoholism – Lord Michael White says the media was right to conceal that; the same view is no doubt being taken of Brown’s lunacy: his dribbling craziness is a concern only for him and his shrink, and shouldn’t be a question for the little people he’s shitting on.
Yes frank and if the loony can’t find a Nokia to throw, somebody could be on the receiving end of a Trident
Good one 187
Do you really believe that Mr Omaha would permit Brown or anybody else in British government actually to light the blue touch paper on nuclear whizz-bangs effectively made in the USA?
British governments destroyed our truly independent nuclear capability decades ago. Healey’s plumping for the F-111 and the chimaeric Skybolt over TSR2 just about pulled the plug for good and all.
True, and so long as the mental fuckwit Brown occupies the hot-seat, we should NOT have an independent ability to launch.
Even with that supposed safe-guard in place, I still do not feel at all comfortable that Brown can even be involved in the UN security discussions about Iran so long as their is any doubt about his mental fitness.
As it is it looks like the west is ramping up the lies about Iran in the same way they did about Iraq as this Article from Scott Ritter proposes:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/sep/25/iran-secret-nuclear-plant-inspections
(I would normally not give the Grauniad the time of day, but Scott Ritter was bang on the money over Iraq’s lack of WMD and where our Government and mainstream media where proven wrong on all their assertions of Saddam’s guilt in the build-up to the 2003 invasion, Scott was proven to be wholely correct.)
It turns out that Iran is obeying the exact letter of the law according to the relevent sections of the NNPT. (Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty) of which they are signatories. ALL of their nuclear material is under permanent 24/7/365 IAEA monitoring and NONE has been moved. NONE of their centrifuges have the capability of enriching uranium to weapons level purity. Adding more centrifuges of the same type will not change that. Iran are not acting like a country ready to wipe Israel off the map, but like a country that is desparate to defend itself from a rogue nuclear armed nation that is constantly making threats to attack Iran, even with nukes. It is protecting its capability to produce civilian peaceful nuclear power in the even that their other plant is destroyed by Israel or the US. The new “secret” plant was not operational and was not planned to be for another 18 months. According to the IAEA rules, Iran had to inform them about that facility within 6 months of being operational. This is what they have done.
Obama has lied to the world in stating that he expects ALL nations to abide by the NNPT as he vetoed a vote to get Israel to become signatories.
It seems that some countries cannot do enough to comply with the NNPT, whilst the western powers are happy for one rogue nation to have the capacity to proliferate nuclear material to anywhere and anyone. That nation being Israel.
Whilst such massive hypocrisy is in play, I am not comfortable with the Prime Mental Case being in a position to influence the incredibly delicate negotiations.
Just look at the way the mad sod was chasing Obama around the kitchens… I’m sure the other world leaders took note of his extraordinary behaviour and will leave him out of any serious discussions.
Hmmm. Israel. I think if any move against Iran is made, it’ll be the Israelis with the US slipstreaming in behind them. We’ll be left holding the Taliban baby.
Is a Taliban baby like a Rosemary’s baby but with a dirty rag on it’s head?
I personally think that there’s quite a difference between recreational and prescription drugs.
The latter should be completely in the public domain for all government politicians.
It’s very simple – Maguire is a hypocritical piece of shit who really shouldn’t be allowed to breathe the same oxygen as the rest of us. I wonder if he can hand on heart tell the world that he’s NEVER imbibed any illicit substance and speak the truth?
Maguire is a chief Collaborator, come the revolution and all that
Maguire’s attempts to defend McPoison and Draper after those disgusting e-mails revealed what an utter slime ball he is.
Defend??? he was the MSM part of the smear operation from what I recollect.
I cannot imagine that a pompous muppet like McGuire has lead or leads a life of unbridled innocence in the big city. Newspaper hack, champagne socialist, friend of McBrideshead et al, Neo-Labia confidante.
There must be some real dirt on him? Anyone?
Head him off at the pass Guido!
Why is he called Toilets frinstance ( or “Netty” in your Geordie language)? I mean you can’t get much dirtier than a Northern outside bog can you?
Netty, cudgie, oot the back, midden, shithouse – all the same thing. Guess which one would suit McGuire?
You’re right though Phil, you wouldn’t eat your crisps in one of those!
We couldn’t afford crisps when I were a lad. All we ad were potato peelings warmed up with me dad’s tab. If were lucky!
He’s a Geordie FFS. Those deluded fuckers are out of their heads all day long.
We don’t all vote New Labia…but deluded? Perhaps. You probably don’t have to support the Toon!
Greggs cheese pasty anyone?
Cheese’n’ Onion please. Greggs are now open 24/7 at Newcastle airport so when you get back from Malia at 3am you can enjoy the taste of home.
You should worry, I support the Boro.
Parmos anyone?
A Greggs pasty is delicious and should never be compared to the taste of home.
The taste of home is leftover and out of date beef substitute, rotten to the core with a faux glaze set on a bed of incapacity benefit. Sinking in a pee foam, a light duffing up with mace and pepper completes the dish.
Best prepared by a mouthy chef, served cold and eaten without any passion.
it will set you back shit loads.
It was always called Greggs of Gosforth before it got ideas above its station.
Now Gosforth can also boast to be the home of our very own Northern Rock!! Should’ve stuck to pastys.
Geordies are not deluded. Newcastle for the European cup!
He is not a Geordie and we will take action against anyone else who repeats the claim. He’s a Sand-dancer FFS!
Aye man but his granda was on the Jarrer march and them’s impeccable surcialist credentials.
I’ve been on before about this and I’ve always suspected he was a Vaux drinker (Man In The Moon, Gay Trouper, Percy Arms etc).
He sortenly gans ern like a Vaux drinker!
Good to see we’re not all in the Northern Labia fan club, eh lads?
Guido, will you be making arrangements for a Muslim Prayer Room here?
And a decent pub
Which sells Pork Scratchings …
and scampi fries, for those special occasions
and is bomb proof
God forbid!
Scampi fries smell deeply unpleasant.
Reminds me of a woman I used to know
Maguire’s questions provide a helpful template to suit the needs of the modern journalist:
1) Which drugs have you used?
2) Did you start using drugs at School?
3) Which drugs did you use at university?
4) Did you use drugs when briefing Neil Kinnock?
5) Did you use drugs when advising John Smith?
6) Did you use drugs when working for Tony Blair?
7) Did you use drugs when you were a TV journalist?
8) When did you last use drugs?
9) Did you know the Chancellor responsible for selling gold at the bottom of the market?
10) Did you help the police arrest Damian Green?
P.S. New poll showing Labour 5 points up on Sky News….. who are these people?!!!
They always have a bounce in the polls during conference week – it won’t last.
Follow up questions to 4 and 5 should be “If not, what is your explanation for their subsequent actions?”
Looking at the graph, there is a 5% swing to liberals in their conference week and then 5% swing to labour in theirs. It seems that there is a small group of people who will vote for whoever happened to be on the TV last.
Very short attention spans.
The poll news is troubling, sampled Sunday and Monday. No coincidence that the “big news” was Marr asking the question on McDoom’s personal health. The great unwashed love an underdog, as I have posted on another thread, so if the McDoom (“I’m used to this bullying of yours, Andrew, I have had to fight for everything I have in this life, poor poor little me”) can present himself as an ungodly amalgam of Goody and Strictly Come Sergeant he will get the public vote!
Remember that much of the electorate is more addled than the PM and as reliant upon debt and the sincere hope that house prices go up next month as he is. Furthermore their grasp on numeracy is probably very similar to his especially after 12 years of Ballsed-up reducation. Spend more money and everything will be alright.
When the Christmas decorations are up and the UK’s mawkish quotient is at maximum the tide will turn and McDoom will get his “aaahh” vote. On your TV sofa soon, accompanied by the close to divine now Sarah and introduced by a swooning Kathy Lette.
Me, I’ll be on that plane and brushing up on my German.
H/T
Unfortunately grounded, will join the resistance in your abscence
This was of course the whole point. Throw McMental a soft ball on prescription painkillers, so that the entire BBC can now jump up an down on Cameron’s skull demanding answers to the ’spliff’ question.
Note how McMental ignored the question and replied to an unasked question about his eyesight. It’s all just cynical cover for open season on smearing the opposition parties.
That’ll be your New labour election strategy in full, then.
I absolutely disagree..the two cases are completely different.
One concerns what someone did in their youth prior to a political career.
The other concerns the mental stability of this Countrys’ current Leader.
If the question is put to Cameron…I’d expect a reply that nails Brown.
That’s been their only strategy since 1995, election or no election.
I still don’t believe the eyesight rugby accident thing, Brown is a total pants of fire.
It sounds a bit macho – any offical confirmation anywhere ?
He’s going for the sympathy vote. Can’t be many of those around.
Remind me, where is sympathy in te dictionary?
Between shit and syphilis, isn’t it? And the rest of us are up shit creek without a paddle under this mental case.
I don’t believe it either. The question’s been asked on here before-but never been answered. Someone must have dug around for this?
I read this account in one paper; Brown injured his eye during a Rugby game ( a kick during a scrum) and subsequently had a problem with his eye……but continued to play sport. Weeks,or months, afterwards he HEADED a ball during a soccer game, with the well known outcome. Now sympathies aside, dont you think that this demonstrated a certain….stupidity .
Very few rugby players footie and I have seen photos of brown in his youth, all Byronic with long floppy. Can you see him as a second row? No neither can I.
It’s all spin, makes him look manly
I know few rugby players who tolerate football as a sport
I bet he wishes he had a byronic eye.
whoever kicked him didn’t do a very good job
my thoughts exactly.
He doesn’t seem to have had any sort of youth. It has been airbrushed out of history, like all of his ex-girlfriends.
Perhaps it was really a nasty cottaging accident?
You mean as Brown had his poor child victim bent forward over a table, the victim bucked backwards very hard launching his own head backwards and hit Brown in the eye with the back of his head? Sounds plausible.
Perhaps it was a mis-directed donkey punch
The other New Labour election strategy can be seen on this site, following on the matters, direction and method discussed by Draper and McBride.
We know what type of mind McBride has and we know how spiteful, unpleasant and vindictive he is. McGuire comes from the same “school”.
There will doubtless be more of the same, orchestrated by Labour leaders who will have covered their tracks beter this time.
Let’s see a denial from Labour and McGuire about that.
Well noted,
he mumbled a sort of no behind his hand when asked about the drugs and then went on and on about his eyesight. Who among us hasn’t told a white lie sometime, the easiest way is often to simply try to pull he conversation onto something else, hoping it seems natural.
So Gorgon sort of answered no to “using pills and painkillers to get by” – leaves him lots of wriggle room if he is on something for treating a serious condition for example, cold say that’s far more than just getting by.
Really no idea. The guy repeats himself a lot, looks very ill, appears disconnected from reality… but honestly I think this might just be his nature – those who know him say he was like this a decade ago – plus add in the bunker mentality. maybe it’s more, will we find out??
That was exactly how I perceived it. Some strange fit-up going on there.
All Cameron has to do, before being elected and smashing the BBC to pieces, is to respectfully point out the sheer number of squalid, coke sniffing libertines that reside at the BBC: Richard Bacon, Angus Deayton, Johnnie Walker, most of Radio 1, …
Here is a list of ‘celebrities’ not on substances.
End
I wondered about that… anti-psychotic drugs are totally different from prescription painkillers and not for the same problems.
So why introduce a straw man Marr?
Shut up about drugs for just one minute ya middle class ageing hippy.
Shut up you boring fud; and speak on Susie…
Fucking delicious!
Middle class ageing punk, to you, sonny.
There is a difference between prescription drugs and recreational drugs. If you take “recreational drugs” then you are breaking the law (daft law IMO, but it is still breaking the law). That is why Maguire asked “austerity Dave” about his smoking habits, if Cameron became PM he would have to make decisions about drug laws, so it is important to see how hypocritical he is.
There is a difference between prescription drugs and recreational drugs.
Not if your prescription drugs impair your ability to do your job. If the drugs you use are making you functionally incapable of doing the job – and especially when the job in question is that of prime minister (i.e., the man with his finger on the nuclear button and who controls the Royal Prerogative to declare war – there is no difference.
If you take “recreational drugs” then you are breaking the law (daft law IMO, but it is still breaking the law).
1. Breaking the law? You mean like “Baroness” Scotland? You mean like “Lord” Mandelson?
2. If you take “recreational drugs”, they are, by definition, recreational. If Dave did a line twenty years ago, it does not affect his judgment in a crisis today. Broon, on the other hand, is alleged to need to take drugs simply to function. The man with his finger on the nuclear button is a man who is so mentally unstable that he cannot function without huge quantities of highly dangerous pills.
3. If you take “recreational drugs”, you are scarcely less honest than someone who takes antidepressants and then denies it. You are scarcely less honourable than someone whose mental state precludes them from doing their job but who, from pure narcissism, clings to a job he is unsuited for mentally, physically, temperamentally and intellectually.
In conclusion, up yer maw.
Yeah man!
Drugs never affected anyone!
buzzzwanggggggggg
You’re a moron, aren’t you? How, you tiny-brained bastard, does doing a line twenty years ago affect Cameron’s competence today? Fuck off back to LabourList.
Medicines (prescription drugs) have both desired and undesires (side) effects. So too do recreational (non-prescription) drugs.
It is not unknown for medicines to have a warning which states something like “May cause drowsiness. If affected do not drive or operate machinery”.
Obviously, psycho-active drugs act on the central nervous system. I do not know what the warnings on those types of drugs will say, but it is likely that they will also affect areas not too far in function from the areas that they are designed to affect. Anti-depressants act on the emotional centres in the brain, so one would expect that other areas such as those concerned with judgement would be affected by them.
The matter of the office holder’s fitness to do the job of prime minister is a matter of and for public concern, especially if the drugs he needs to take to control any type of medical condition is a factor affecting his performance.
Fred, they are not (side) effects, they are the effects. Prescription or otherwise, they are chemicals that have a variable effect depending on the state of the physical body they are entered into.
“If you take “recreational drugs” then you are breaking the law”
No you’re not.
It’s possessing them that’s the non-legal part.
But again, if he possessed them then it’s hardly relevant to now – except that maybe he has a more reasoned view on them.
From where did we derive this ludicrous description “Recreational” Drugs ?
They’re Illegal Substances .. and as such are forbidden by Law ..
Their users, sellers, importers etc should be hunted down and punished to the maximum possible extent ..
puritan tit.
Ahhh .. I do so love a reasoned response ..
It’s more than you deserve.
grow your own, cut out all the layers of profit
Amen!
Cannabis is legal in the Netherlands.
p.s.
well, it’s not criminal and you can buy it in café’s, which is effectively the same thing.
where did that extra ‘ come from?
Sorry to be contradictory Toke .. but that’s a commonly held misconception ..
All Drugs (other than on Prescription) are in fact illegal in the Netherlands .. the Dutch authorities simply choose to turn a blind eye to it & go for the soft option ..
But occasionally the Police or at the Ports .. the Marechaussee will have a “blitz” including the use of Dogs ..
How do I know ? .. I used to work for P&O North Sea Ferries in & out of Rotterdam ..
The Dutch police like a spliff or two as well.
@Haddock
I used to live there. It ain’t illegal.
There’s plenty of money being made in the Afghani poppy fields. Despite the fact “we” have been there for years and have the capability to raze a field in seconds.
Shit loads of drug production, all sanctioned by the West it seems. Who is making all the money..?
Do politicians practice what they preach? Am off to have a coca tea.
Who the fuck thinks it is sane to legislate AGAINST nature?
Well said that man…
Fucking delicious!
The question to Brown was legitimate and justified, not to say long overdue. If Brown’s evasive answer and ramble about his eyesight are the best he could do we are entitled, in fact compelled, to believe what we like. If Brown wants the world to stop thinking what they’re thinking he’s going to have to produce some relaible evidence. Maguire’s effort is laughable – do the Mirror pay him actual money for his rubbish?
Recreational druge = you take them because you want to.
Prescribed drugs – a Dr has seen you and suggested you need to take them – if a Dr had been called out to see womeone high in Government and prescribed them to take drugs we should know.
Can you fly a plane etc if on prescribed dugs?
Can you fly a plane etc if on prescribed dugs?
If the drugs you are on are anything like what Broon is alledged to be taking, you are almost certainly unfit to be aircrew.
The pilot’s medical takes half a day for a commercial pilot, the private pilot one I did takes two hours!
details at : http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=49&pagetype=90&pageid=527
Did you pass?
yep! But only for a few years, then it’s another ECG, eye test, hearing test, blood test (anemia) and piss test (diabetes) – all on top of what you would normally think of as a ‘medical’.
Private pilots do this every 5 years or so, depending on age, as do bus and coach drivers.
Commercial pilots do a more comprehensive medical every 6-24 months, depending on age – that’s why you don’t often hear of pilots dropping down dead, they are usually retired on health grounds as soon as anything abnormal is detected. Major airlines offer pilots loss of licence insurance to cover this eventuality.
However, military pilots are high on all kinds of fucked up drugs!
And especially so in the 40s… amphetamines were standard issue when we were bombing the shit out of Germany. No time for elf&safety bollocks then… or the nanny state — that came later.
What evidence do you have for such a dam fool statement?
I think there would be close monitoring if yoyu flew a plane while on MAOI A drugs, as they can cause delusions and mania (which often results in excessive spending BTW,, oh and the idea that you are saving the world). As for running a whole country apparently supervision and disclosure are not necessary.
If rumours of what Ruin is on are even half true, he could fly without a plane.
Double standards? In the Labour Party? Surely not!
The door has been opened now for some seriously dirty Labour tricks.
Especially with the BBC’s help, they can ask all kinds of personal questions of any of the shadow cabinet now. It will all be smears and lies of course, but no smoke without fire, they can seed all kinds of doubts in the public’s mind.
I am sure there was a plan behind Marr asking that question.
Of course…. marr’s mate mandy made him ask it badly so that brown could pretent he’s denied it (but also ensure brown’s kept on the ropes so can drop him at any moment) and then have a go at the ‘nasty’ right wing blogs before unleashing a millenium dome sized barrel of smeary shit across the land.
That’s why instead of keeping quiet they’ve complained to be sure that everyone has heard about the interview.
Also goes with their underdog theme – make people feel sorry for him.
If Marr asks anybody in the shadow cabinet that question they can reply “I’ll answer when you withdraw your injunction” and leave the viewers to work out what it’s all about.
Davey Boy should just keep repeating the question in the first PMQ this session
Hoist by your own petard*, Kev.
* a small bomb, Kev, taken from the Middle French peter, to break wind.
Feb 2007 – was this before or after the “psychologically flawed” slur was doing the rounds?
Typical Labour smears and lies, one rule for them, one rule for everyone else, best current example Baroness Scotland.
If someone is on mood altering drugs and they potentially have the key to let the nukes fly then we do need to know, this really important when Leader retreats to a bunker every time the shit and the fan get together
‘Did you get your mouth-gape trying to cut your own sock,Prime Minister?`
That’s one I’m sure Jon ‘Labour-Lad’ Snow is dying to ask.
He flew and flew and flew and flew then hit Suez and crashed, never to recover ever.
brrrmmm, brrrmmmm
What do you expect from a lefty? they go by the commie rule, do as i say not
as i do, as has been shown on so many times by ths stinking loathsome Nulabour Govt
If you were male, you’d be a wanker, you tory Hoon…
Fucking delicious!
Don’t you just love him…. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/david-cameron/6239573/David-Camerons-Twitter-radio-swearing-not-against-rules-says-Ofcom.html
The problem is that the DC question is irrelevant whereas the Brown one isn’t.
Labour are irrelevant and so relevant questions aren’t appropriate.
If they want to talk about their teenage years how about mention all the communist/facist groups the cabinet used to belong to? .. oh because that might be relevant to how they act now so I guess it can’t be mentionned.
I understand that the young Brown wrote some useful guides on ripping off the taxpayer.
If Labour want to talk about DC’s past there is plenty to see if the rocks which hide student Brown are lifted.
There might be a few rocks in Cape Cod which might bear looking under too.
After the release of Megrahi, I am sure that US Intelligence might be persuaded to assist.
Good point. Come on you yanks. Dig some dirt on this festering deluded wanker.
You don’t owe him any favours. He even embarrasses your guys in Afghanistan sending his guys over with substandard shite, calling on your air support because he hasn’t any – air support or balls.
Go on, walk the walk and talk the talk. You lot are the only people left to save what is left of 3rd world Britain.
p.s. don’t use a fake rock that looks too fake, like what we did, when dropping off the evidence in the usual place.
Love and kisses x
They did it before with Blair (why was he so suddenly on-side about Iraq?) what did he possibly have to gain? They can and probably will do it again with Bruin.
She liked her ‘vitamins’ as they perked her up and up and up.
At first she liked them in the thigh, then later straight in to the arm.
She could get by on almost no sleep at all.
A miracle!
We are a grandmother!
I liked a bit of Lotus essence.
Just as relevant.
On his couch with a tub of popcorn, watching the enemy self-destruct. Don’t worry, they’re holding some sort of conference next week, so he’ll probably turn up there.
Oops, they’re gone.
Disrespectful? To that fucking arsehole?
It is a wonderful man he is to be sure, just tink of all his good points and if you can tink of any perhaps you would be kind enough to let me fock’n know.
come out from behind that fucking rock – just for a second…
Surely Maguire of the Mirror’s opinion on who took drugs is unimportant, as no one takes any notice whatsoever what Maquire thinks or says. Maguire is a “die hard” Brown supporter so obviously he will be very upset that anyone should question Gordon’s impecable track record on running Britain. Your question should be “What will Maguire be doing after the next general election?” It’s a hard world!
Whichever, it reads to me as the painful coming to terms by a political lickspittle of a future inevitable armageddon. Irrelevant hypocrisy.
With all and sundry in the MSM trying to tell us that it is a wasted vote to vote for anyone other than Labour because of the massive seat changes that would be needed for a Tory victory
Maguire is just another of those wanting to hold onto their jobs, because I presume both the Mirror and Guardian will be failed entities businesswise after the election
Better hope that their accounts aren’t with banks that the tax payer owns
It’s gone a bit quiet on the Baroness of Walthamstow front!
What’s Mr.Maguires take on the untenable position of the Attorney Generalissimo?
Good evening Tat,I have constructed a Direct Debit with my bank and tributes will be paid monthly to you Top Boy,Crusher of Skulls in Chief.
Don’t you just hate it when partisan hacks pretend to get upset over alleged smears when they’ve done far worse themselves?
Excellent point as usual Guido.
No one should challenge a Labour Party leader, or drone!
It is against the law, or will be soon!
It’s perfectly acceptable to question MPs about their drug habits. Just deny everything and don’t get caught!
(Damn, I see my latest shipment’s been seized in the Atlantic…)
Toilets Maguire, Sir Michael Shite, 5 bellies Toynbee and Steve Richards are all two faced fucking twats.
They all thought McPill was a great leader when he bullied his way into No10, now they want him gone.
Yes , have to agree with you Obama,
Five bellies is an ugly bitch as well.
She’s so ugly that when she was born, the doctor turned round and slapped the parents.
She was born with two arses and no face.
Who the fuck is 5 bellies?
Is it jimmy?
Jimmy 5 bellies was a fat bastard, so is Toynbee.
Jacqui Smith!
If a politician smoked a spliff 20 years ago, then that really doesn’t matter; the media’s free to ask the question but equally the politician’s free to just say “irrelevant; not going to answer.”
On the other hand, if the person who’s currently leading (or intending to lead) the country is on very strong mind-altering drugs that most doctors wouldn’t prescribe to even the most insane of their patients, then I think we do have a right to know.
Brown’s alleged need for pills would be just a symptom though; even if he didn’t need pills for depression/anger-control he’d still be a fucking idiot nut case; it’s his unchangeable inbuilt psychology, it’s just how he is; he’s a natural-born sociopathic moron. No amount of drugs will change that.
So would you suggest that if Cameron is asked about what he did 20 years ago he should say thats “wholly irrelevant” but then he should tell Marr that the question he should be asking is the one he didn’t ask Gordon Brown about “whether he was on any prescribed medication for controlling his mood and which may impair his ability to deal with the affirs of High Office,” bit that since Marr didn’t ask then he must have regarded that too as “wholly irrelevant”?
Please stop leading the witness.
but he did save the world, good job their was a telephone box hady for a quick change
Tese tedious juvenile attacks on the tory leader must come from a collaborator. This is a story in itself.
‘Labour supporters use disgraceful language on blogosphere’
Disgusting peasants
Forget the drugs .
Darling has revealed that he has demanded to know the details of 100,000
offshore bank accounts
The question to put should be to Mandelson —”Minister ,have you got one or more offshore bank accounts and if so ,where are they located ? ”
He will be very uncomfortable and try to slime his way out of answering .
Actually it’s rather offensive of you to ask how it was I became a millionaire at the taxpayers’ expense.
Thanks Guido.
The difference (in addition to the question of legality) is that Brown has answered the question – Cameron and Osborne haven’t.
Brown has never actually answered a question in his life. He just spews out what he wants us to hear regardless of any question put to him.
What part of the word “No” don’t you understand!
Trouble is Brown didn’t answer the question. Andrew Marr bottled it intentionally or otherwise and asked was he on painkillers? The word ante-depressants was not mentioned.
Of course he’s not on painkillers so it was easy to say no wasn’t it?
He winced when he replied, so obviously not.
He went very quiet all of a sudden. Andrew elephant ears marr asked him about painkillers. He knew full well that the gorgon could honestly say no to that question. Gorgon is a word machine, has verbal diarrhoea. It was the long pause that was significant.
The whole interview was stage-managed from start to finish… all the questions were scripted. Gorgon knew a drugs question was coming up, he just didn’t know if it was a drugs question about what he’s really on or whether it had ‘deniability’. Of course the BBC didn’t let him down.
He didn’t answer the question. According to the transcript, he said his eyesight was fine.
Just after the Labour conference is Labour’s best chance of going for an election. They will know already whether 175bn quid of printed cash has had the desired effect on GDP for Q3. If it has they will proclaim recovery lead by the brilliant ‘Goldilocks’ Brown.
Printed just the right amount of money to end the recession which started in America and has fuck all to do with me.
PLUS it denies Cameron his week of wall-to-wall meeja coverage and post-conference bounce.
If they had the IQ of a fish between them then Gordon would announce an election at the end of his conference speech.
Of course if Q3 is still substantially in the hole then all bets are off.
IF?
I’ll give you a clue. Did Printing help Zimbabwe?
still predicting zimbabwe inflation after all these months ?
maybe next month eh ?
It took Zimbabwe more than 10 years. But once it starts going asymptotic, And a deficit of 43bn ballooning to 200bn in 12 months is getting there, then you need to start setting your printing presses with the figures starting a lot more near the centre of the banknotes.
Actually I’ve been predicting credit deflation and import inflation.
They net out in the stats, however to people trying to live the later is their real inflation figure.
Labour need someone to print them the money to pay for an election campaign.
The cupboard appears to be bare, which suggests that an early election is impossible.
They don’t need campaigning cash with the national broadcaster firmly onside… we’ll be paying for their election campaign.
That’s a bit unfair to fish, can’t see any of them voting Labour
Will Tony make an appearance in Brighton this week, God knows they need somebody on stage who can fill the hall. I’m being physically sick, just seen that tosser Mandelson on the news, How that man just fucking loves it, I wouldn’t believe him if he told me the Pope was a catholic.
I’ll fill the hall for you.
I believe they have Nancy Dell’Olio to brighten up their dreary week.
They couldn’t light a public toilet with a thousand watt eco-friendly bulb! Perhaps she’ll be there to fit the gorgon and mandlescum up with a pair of her new design frilly knickers.
+++laugh+++ Oh contessa that thought’s so funny!!!
Are the scare tactics being ramped up?
Below are the 22 towns identified by the Government as the areas with the highest proportion of homeowners at risk of repossession.
1. Barking and Dagenham
2. Birmingham
3. Bolton
4. Cannock Chase
5. Corby
6. Halton
7. Kingston-upon-Hull
8. Knowsley
9. Liverpool
10. Manchester
11. Newham
12. Northampton
13. Nottingham
14. Reading
15. Redditch
16. Salford
17. Sandwell
18. Sunderland
19. Swindon
20. Walsall
21. Wigan
22. Wolverhampton
How many of those have sitting Labour MP’s
Where do the 3 people who have been helped by HMG’s rescue scheme live?
Westminster. I’m not sure where their second and third homes are, though.
No 10,No 11 Downing St and a certain house bought for £4m by a certain Bliar
Well Corby is Labour’s Phil Hope and Redditch is Jacqui Smith – both hanging by a thread and unlikely to survive the next election.
Walsall North is Labour David Winnick. I would have thought most, if not all, of these seats are Labour unless anyone knows better.
Derek Twigg is Halton
not going to bother to look them all up but i would venture they would all be labour marginals
Cannock Chase is not a town, but an attractive area of heath, forest and moorland in south Staffordshire. My father used to go grouse shooting there with the Ansons of Shugborough, before Hitler’s War.
I see no failed banks HQ towns in that list. Just goes to prove they must not have failed, it was all a rumour.
Darling says:
“We must keep the public finances on a sustainable path because the long-term health of our economy depends on it”
While that’s true, it’s also something that should be implicit, it doesn’t need to be explicitly pointed out unless the people you’re speaking to don’t understand basic economics.
It’s like standing up and saying:
“It’s a bad idea to continue to intentionally destroy the economy like we’ve been doing”
‘Keep?’ ‘Keep’ them on a sustainable path?
How the fuck are you going to even find your way back to the sustainable path. You took the wrong fork eight years ago jackasses. There are nettles, thistles, briars and fucking bad-assed poke-your-eye-out-blackthorn bushes grown all over the way back to the sustainable path.
Imbeciles.
I misread “keep” for “put” when I mentioned what darling said because that’s what it sounded like he really meant.
Your analysis is entirely correct.
Marr just wanted to pave the way to grill Cameron about cocaine.
As others have suggested above: it’s irrelevant what Cameron did twenty years ago.
You have got to be either the dumbest Labour black-ops muppet ever or a very sick Tory black-op.
Or just a bit-not-right-in-the-head.
I think you were right the third time.
This is probably the same person who used to use a name associated with swimming trunks – he’s probably mcbride or one of his henchmen in real life, definitely best off ignored
They were banned earlier under the same name, different syntax. When Guido finishes his pint he’ll hopefully do the same again.
It’s all a big smoke screan from the Left to distract people from the PM’s appalling performance in the interview with Marr yesterday before he asked that question. The PM’s claims about Britain not having a debt problem and him persuading the rest of the world to follow his solutions show how completely deranged Gordon Brown is.
Brown trying to get into the shot on one of the recent vids when Obama was speaking reminded me of Fred Scuttle, so I decided to have a look on Youtube. No joy but I came across this little example of the master at work.
Not pc these days titbrain, especially if you had used it as an intro to the Baroness Scotland fiasco (fucking funny though). Can you imagine Gordon playing the machines in an amusement arcade somewhere down south?
I recognise that accent – its East Ham I believe.
That’s it!
It was driving me mad thinking about who he reminded me of at the UN. I thought it might have been one of the Python sketches, but after a look through most of them were too sane.
But no it’s definitely Benny gurning and creeping into shot at every opportunity. Thanks for nailing it, Sir Reg.
Definitely a closet Portsmouth supporter
F.Hoffman-La Roche are terrified that it’s true that Brown is on valium. Their shares would plummet if it become public that Jonah endorses Diazepam.
“Roche – we ruin whole countries”
Sounds like a decent advert?
He’s not on Ferrero Rocher’s too is he?
I certainly hope not. I’m very fond of those. His endorsement of them is likely to see their popularity plummet to a point where they are no longer worth producing.
Christmas wouldn’t be Christmas without a shit Ferrero Rocher advert.
Christmas stopped being Christmas when the flood gates opened and we were introduced to the delight that is Winterval.
Maguire was making sick jokes about Maggie Mc Cann the other month and now the sad act lefties and himself think there some fucking paragon of moral deceny.
streuth almighty give me strength.
*Maddie even.
‘You made a first class fool outta me’
“Maddie” – Brown’s new nickname?
Apologies if this was posted earlier but ITV news has reported that Alan Simpson MP has apparently described Broon as ‘a dead man walking’ and downing St as ‘the last days in the bunker’
Not a good week for Broon
£ 10 says he’s gone within 72 hours.
You’re on.
Simpson has said he is stepping down already. Nothing to fear.
All this “stepping down” and “stepping aside” bullshit.
They are fucking off and not a minute too soon.
These lefty cu*ts dont like it that the new ‘Alternative’ media are giving them a right royal fucking.
The protests against Obama recently in America were no more vicious than the shite we have seen from left wing wankers for years and the only problem these fuckers have with the blogosphere is they aint running the show.
Maguire is a Minge.
Bear in mind old son the same unruly blogoshere will be there to keep an eye on you faultless tories too.
That, e4E, is the bent thing of all about the new blog-demagoguery.
Best, FFS, too much vanilla-nosed chianti already.
Oh I see. I thought you’d gone all Mandleson
Mine’s Fitou – jolly nice one too
Eh?
Wouldn’t have it any other way.
I resent being called a tory. I am not one, don’t support them and doubt I ever will. This isn’t a tory blog. Please pass this message on to your fuckwit mates.
E4e I hate the Conservatives just slightly less than Labour.
i really cant take snide,bitter mcguire seriously.i just dont think he has any morals.
They are Grub Streeet morals.
Great message from the Sun to the champagne socialist luvies in Brighton.
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/centreright/2009/09/this-sun-ad-van-is-touring-brighton.html
David Cameron took drugs for the same reason that most us have
Being young; foolish and looking for fun
I doubt if he does it anymore
The man also recently lost his son and hasnt resorted (unlike McMental) to a big fuck off amount of prescription drugs to cope.
Nor has he cried in public and debased the short life of his child.
Not a huge fan of Cameron, but he gets my X in the box
Brown is a passed over Lance Jack compared to A Major with promise
”David Cameron took drugs for the same reason that most us have”
Living under a Labour government for 12 years LOL??
Britain PLC is danger of losing its Triple A credit rating, debts it will take generations to pa off, interest payments strangling the improvement of our infrastructure and public services, money spent on everything but better schools and hospital, our streets left unsafe because they have been taken over by thugs with knives, our army left without appropriate weapons and set off to the tougher war zones in the world without clear objectives, more people on benefits, more people without work, the worst economic downturn since the 1930s. DOWN WITH BROWN!
Hoon*,
You missed the most important option. Not extorting it from the people who EARNED IT in the first place!
*Sorry But Schools’sNHospitals talk reminds me of Bliar.
Who cares if he did, or if he didn’t?
of us
Yes, Beast, I think we had just about worked that out, at least those of us with a pre-Blair educashun.
A couple of lines of coke would lighten Brown up a treat.
Yep .. Preferably Coke of the furnace variety .. contained in 1cwt bags & delivered directly to the back of his head ..
That piece of shit from that NOTHING newspaper is nothing but a scummy,crummy nothing – washed up alcoholic wife beater.
Pay no attention to this nothing
A tip to all you young persons out there – if you ever find yourself in a life with John Prescott, don’t inhale.
Plofessor Plescott is our new teacher. He vely knowledgeable about Chinese food and crimate change. Especially Chinese food.
Hate Speech Hate Speech – your name has been added to the list !!
We are all of us in a “life” with John Prescott, Sir William. Inhaling for 50 years but will concede a dreadful stink for the last 12 of them.
My John Prescott story (which I have outlined on here before) is this;
It happened before the notorious punch up with the bloke who threw the egg;
I was trying to get home from Waterloo one afternoon and waiting at Platform 10 when I noticed that a fast train to Bournemouth was late departing.I asked the guard when he was leaving and he told me they were waiting for a passenger.
I turned back to the concourse and there scurrying across from the taxi rank entrance near platform 1 was this scruffy man wearing a black heavy raincoat.
He looked at me as if he thought I was going to take him out ( I am 6′3″ and partial to eating food – the difference between this oaf and I was that I KEPT my food in my stomach (and my dick in my trousers)).
So he waddles past,gets on the train and the guard blows the whistle and off they go.
So they even have their own bloody train timetable!
Bastard!
Are the drugs working, or should Gordon cut that unnecessary programme too?
Well he tells us he is exceptionally fit as he jogs everyday – rather like Omaha.
Although I do wonder whether he is actually capable of telling the truth.
If that crumbling mountain of lard clutching Sarah’s hand to steady him up the conference steps is ‘exceptionally fit’, I’m Kelly Holmes.
What this bunch of muppets don’t seem to understand is that if you ask most members of the public whether they give a toss if DC smoked some dope at Uni the answer would be no.
However, if you then ask what people would think if they thought that a PM was on drugs then they would be terrified – especially if that PM made bonkers decisions, acted quite bonkers and decided that he wanted to be PM and bullied his way there – I might decide that I want to be a heart surgeon tomorrow – doesn’t mean it should happen.
DUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK (just missed a low flying nokia)
Drugs should be legal, then taxed and money ploughed back into helping those who need help.
The ‘victorian values’ that prevail have only made drug dealers very rich.
The Government should stand back and ask is it better they have the money or the dealers?
Drugs are not going away so let us be pro active, bankrupt the market and use the funding to support public services.
This is just a revenue stream and should be treated as such.
All we need is someone with balls to pass a bill through Parliament, does ‘Supermarket Dave’ have the strength of will these times require or will he play the Bullingdon Bitch?
It is not the drugs that are the issue it is the number of people in a society that are happy making money out of suffering. Once drugs are legal they will just move on to higher value illegal operations.
The individual proof your illogical argument is Brown himself. If you need drugs to make it though your day then you get people like him in power positions. Without them the inappropriate leaders would have crashed and burnt long before now. We would not have had the banking crisis if the grasp of reality of certain people was not so diminished by its use.
Ex
Cocaine use and city salaries go hand in hand.
Bankers should be subjected to routine testing as a condition of Government support.
Risk taking, over confidence, poor judgement and cocaine all go together.
The PM spot is a tough job and if you haven’t been tested and hardened you shouldn’t do it. If Broon wasn’t deluded and mental he’d have known that. Unfortunately for him and his family, he is both deluded and mental.
Guido
what is the deal with this premod horseshit?
I thought I had transcend from being a pleb to a disrespected commentator!
Marr should interview Maguire on live primetime and ask him where his “toilets” nickname came from.
Anyone else see Adam Boulton on Sky News just now? He was attacking Marr for asking the question about McCoward. Boulton’s view was that the MSM had ‘quietly’ asked Downing Street who had denied Brown was a pill popper and Boulton thought that good enough and “we” the public didn’t need to know.
Well that is just typical of the MSM they are all too close to the politicians (both Boulton and Marr are married to Liebour types) and I’m sure others are too.
What other dirty little secrets do the MSM know about that thy feel “WE” don’t need to know about? Some anal shagging perhaps somewhere? some kiddy fiddling? financial dodgy dealings?
Fuck the MSM, a bunch of overpaid c.u.n.t.s the lot of them.
Oh and did anyone see Toenails say on the BBC news that Mandelson had “quit the cabinet twice”? Quit? I thought the bastard was sacked for lying and cheating twice?
Why did Tony Blair put a D Notice on the pedo operation when it reached all the way up into parliament and the labour party, would be a good question for the media to answer first.
Parliament doesn’t want that raised.
Labour MPs weren’t the only ones implicated as I understand it.
A conspiracy of silence.
they were all innocent; no 13yr old boys were harmed.
Boulton’s on fat pills. big ones.
Big problem is that too many “reporters” are in bed with labour. They are married to labour staffers/advisors, they are mates with labour politicians, get invited to their weddings, parties, houses for lunches etc. It’s all too cosy and it makes it very hard for these reporters to stick the knife in properly when it is duly required.
If Marr made a genuine attempt at impartial journalism, then fair play. But my guess is that there is a lot of fake outrage going on, because the fact is Broon got off lightly, that is for sure.
God help him if it had been someone like Robin Day asking the questions…
Agreed. Marr was able to look anti Liebour when in fact he’s a red turd sniffer. What Marr was doing was trying to force the hand of the anti Brown’s to unseat him as the BBC fear a tory government with a big majority will rip them a new arse and take away the teat of tax payers money.
Regarding my post about Brown being asked if he was a homosexual, here is the link and quote from Lawley.
His love life was once the cause of a run-in with Sue Lawley on BBC radio’s Desert Island Discs.
Ms Lawley made inquiries about the chancellor’s private life, stating that: “People want to know whether you’re gay or whether there is some flaw in your personality”.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/863837.stm
So is this not MORE out of order than asking if he’s a pill popper?
I think there is enough evidence now to say there is some big flaw in Brown’s personality.
sio we can ask dave if he was a homosexual too ?
happy days
Dave, do you pick your nose, smile when you should look serious, look serious when you should smile, shake Sam’s hand when a kiss would be normal and appropriate, and walk around with your trews tucked in your socks?
That should do it.
For what it’s worth: Toilets makes my flesh crawl. It seems there is is no depth to which he will not stoop to lick the bum-crack of his beloved labour. Guido highlights the greasy hack’s canting hypocrisy; but to me it also appears that Toilet’s has a simple rule, similar to the BBC in fact. Labour = good, Conservative = bad.
And don’t lets even think for one second that Marr’s question represents some kind of damascene conversion. If it had been more carefully worded it would have made it much harder for Snotty to wriggle out of answering properly.
No, the BBC is still a hothouse of marxist handwringers, though I doubt there will be many empty bottles of champagne strewn around their corridors after the result of the next GE.
Maguire is a big nosed geordie twat who like Sir Michael Shite and co just arse lick for the sake of it.
I often wonder if Sir Michael Shite should be called Andrex to go with Maguire’s toilets and Robinson’s toenails?
Please show some respect for the Prime Minister RS, as you well know his name is not “Snotty”, it is “McSnot”.
Fondlebum says they’re still in with a chance. I ‘ll have one of whatever he’s had (as long as it does it can be imbibed rather than “absorbed”)
Fondelbum doesn’t give a shit about party or politics, he is interested in money and power, thought that would be blindingly obvious to everybody by now, but not it seems to Gordon Brown, wait for the Faustian moment, not one Machiavelli but two, (Alastair Campbell being the other).
The most disgusting part of today was his comment ‘if I can come back so can we’ So twice dismissed from a government post for lying and cheating, no charges brought as would be for thee and me and now both situations are just a conference joke to be laughed at by all in the auditorium and a lot of back slapping by Brown.
That in a nutshell my friends sums up the evil depths that these scum have descended too and next week they will be lecturing us on rule of law and morality and lying their heads off.
Very well said.
What he meant was I can come AT the back.
Hurry Hurry people
http://twitter.com/VOTE_LABOUR
“Please Start Two New Trending Topics on Twitter! 1) #VoteForGordonBrown 2) #VoteLabour”
Tell me this is some kind of piss take. I think we should think of a more appropriate hashtag and start using it, not forgetting the #lab09 to get seen with the other conference tweets
more like #lav09 as they’ve gone down the toilet (along with all our money)
Twittering is for Twats.
You have to admit, I’ve been desperately unlucky. Events dear boy events.
nope, you’re just mental and a poof.
Ach you’re right. Im as nutty as squirrell shit and my marriage is a sham.
Surely Kevin Maguire is not guilty of hypocrisy? Why is Brown so touchy about the topic in any case?
Back on the main event – seems to have gone quiet about our Attorney General – I am appalled!
Someone posted this morning that Talksport said she was resigning. Then again it was Talksport. Probably meant Alan Brazil, he’s from Scotland and been sacked more times than Mandy.
Who gives a toss what Kevin Maguire thinks?!
Gordon, for one. Which really says it all, don’t you think?
Yeah there is something strange about this whole Brown-Cameron-druggie caper.
Marrs’ mildly probing questions are probably being used to open the door for some big-ass smear tactics against Cameron et al by MSM reptiles like Maguire.
It won’t work of course.
Not only will it not work; it will reveal how far Marr and the BBC have fallen from the ideal of impartiality.
They will shoot themselves.
My recommendation for the conference season is;
Don’t watch BBC at all. And don’t pay the licence fee.
You know it makes sense.
trouble is it does work. Sky reports 5 point boost for Labour FFS WHAT!
Never underestimate the power of the retard vote. We had a taste in Salford when they chose to let the flippin chipmunk continue to fleece them.
Clearly most of the conference delegates are on powerful stimulants if they managed to sit through a speech by Alistair Darling one of the most powerful sedatives known to man !
Thing is Darling is the only sane one out of the lot of them, I quite like him and feel a bit sorry for him, he seems a decent bloke. For Darling it must be like being the only sober one at a party of 19 year old politics students, you just wish you could punch them all in the face.
When Darling took over the Treasury he apparently hit the roof over the utter fucking mess McMental had made of it and I don’t just mean the snot and sweat all over the keyboard and desk either.
I think he at least admits and know’s the limit of his talents and that he’s in over his head.
He got his own housing finance sorted nicely
Agreed. The only sane one of the lot of them.
I wouldn’t have a problem with him having some sort of afterlife in 2010. Treasurer of the local cricket club or something?
Is it possible that Mandy is praising Gordon to the skies because they’ve done a deal – Mandy saying ‘You resign during the Conservative Conference and I’ll give you a great send-off so at least you can keep your dignity’ – with a sub-text of ‘If you don’t agree I’ll slaughter you in my conference speech’ ?
Only asking
I doubt it, you would have to be criminally insane to trust Mandy enough to do a deal with him… oh on second thoughts…..
Mandelson has already made his speech and as we know, Brown is a liar.
I am sure these two don’t trust each other any more than we do.
Mandy is just frantic that the EU Lisbon Treaty get’s passed this time, as soon as that deed is done, Brown will be dropped like he’s hot.
Can’t believe even Mandy thinks Brown is hot
SHIT.
HELLO!
Can someone please explain why one should concern oneself with the thoughts of Kevin Maguire.
The man is a vile little bed wetter that needs a good smack.
catch the piggy MP’s in action on Dispatches tonight
Watching it right now.
Explaining to little daughter why we currently can’t go to places like Fiji and Tonga and Jamaica, but MPs on “fact-finding missions” can.
“That’s not fair!” she exclaims. Knowing it’s not fair is a good place to inculate in her, at an early age, that MPs / government entities / MSM are scum and not to be trusted one iota.
Did someone say double standards and Labour in the same breath?
Surely not!! Baroness Scotland would tell you that that is categorically not true.!!!
Kevin McGuire,who gives a toss about what he says which isn,t much anyway.
What he writes about in that joke of a newspaper the Mirror is hardly an experience of reasoning.
I suppose him being married to a novelist makes a difference,dont they write about make believe rather than fact,it have rubbed off on the Geordie chancer.
Have you noticed that there seems to be a competition among Labourites to see who can work in the ‘mantra’ – “Britain’s hardworking families” – the most often when ever they are interviewed?
When will Marr say something along the lines of “Prime Minister has it not occurred to you that Families would not have to work so hard were it not for the fact that there are millions of families who are too fucking Feckless and Lazy to do any work whatsoever” And do you not find it a little strange that most of the Welsh population seem to be disabled?
There is a question for you Marr!
Hard working families!! If I ever hear that phrase being used near me, I swear I shall punch the fucker that says it square on the nose.
Its an incorrect statement anyway. Me and the missus work hard but the kids go to school and grandad sleeps all day and farts once in a while.
Maguire, spinning Liebour shite of the first order. Give me a gun please the fucker should be shot.
Guido
There is a fantastic thread running on Iain Dale right now – all about people’s hatred for Cooper Balls – the woman one.
It is so funny to read – what is it about her that drives us all beserk?
As one writer says, it is the tilt of her head when a scum member of the public is boring her and daring to challenge her – utterly revolting person.
Oops a rant but it was the picture of the grinning little turd with gormless mcmental that did it.
Magtoilet is really in no position to moralise
He should be asked
“Did you inhale the salty piss aroma as you hung around the Ladies bog?”
“Did you cover your ears as the piss fell into the water?”
“Did you peep under the door?”
“Did you become aroused or was it just investigative journalism on behalf of Twyfords ?”
Just because a doctor has prescribed drugs it doesn’t mean they are right or even legal. Ask Michael Jackson or Elvis, well you could if they hadn’t died of prescription drugs.
Drugs are drugs; if you take them it means something is wrong with you. If you take them for pleasure you are daft. If you are prescribed them you are ill.
In Brown’s case you would have to be half blind and very thick not to see that he is both daft and ill. Plus we all know he doesn’t know the truth from a wet lettuce so Marr knew he would lie. The question was a put up job to get sympathy and leave the question open for grilling Dave about his Bullington days.
The BEEB, Marr and Maguire are stooges. As for the poisonous Mandleson keep the anti venom syringe handy and an axe by your side, he can’t be killed easily.
Roll on election day.
Common Sense-you talk common sense. The fact of the matter is Brown looks like a wierd wierdo, acts weird and has wierd policies and aims. This to me is more scary than if drugs were to be the cause of his natural weirdness. he’s also a war criminal to all intents and purposes as far as war crime law goes. Sane people don’t start wars or kill innocent people for votes or personal reward. IMO
ARE YOU HAVING A FUCKING LARF YOU C’UNT?
YOU OWE ME TWENTY GRAND FOR COKE ALREADY YOU FUCKING ELEPHANT
AND NOW YOU WANT ANOTHER 10KILOS OF SMACK AND COKE AND 5KILOS OF SUPERSKUNK YOU’RE JUST ANOTHER POSH JUNKIE YOU FUCKING C’UNT!
YOU’RE A MILLIONAIRE YOU C’UNT PAY WHAT YOU OWE ME OR THIS WILL TURN FUCKING NASTY YOU SNOTTY NOSED STUCK UP WANKER!
NO DOLLARS NO GEAR MOTHERFUCKER COUGH UP OR FUCK OFF!
YOU WILL JUST HAVE TO GO COLD TURKEY THEN YOU C’UNT!
INNIT!
Fuck off you retard. Get a new keyboard too, twat.
Calm down, tat.
look you fuckers, how many different ways can you say it; this is a dead parrot.
tuscan tony gives brown 72 hours. a bit miserly as usual tone. I would be more generous and give brown a month.
but I must say I am pretty bored talking about the useless failure gordon brown all the time.
aren’t you?
brown’s dead.
and the witch will be soon be deaded too.
so cheer up you miserable c’unts, these are happy times.
paying such close attention to this farce of a labour conference is a bit like studying a dying old person’s blood splattered stools. you know they are going to die, you do not to smell their deathly shit, not really.
the patient is dying on its feet and will definitely drop dead unless brown is immediately deposed.
note to labour party: TIME LADIES AND GENTLEMEN! TIME AT THE BAR!
KILL BROWN.
DO IT NOW.
Sky News reports Labour poll boost of 5 points…(no shit sherlock.)
Fair point, tat, but who would want to take over if Brown did go? We know Mandy likes pulling the strings in the background, but he knows that Labour are going down at the next GE, probably badly. First job for any Labour leader after GE – tender resignation as leader of party. Why would anybody take it on just for eight months of minding the shop? Better to prop Brown up, then go for leader after the GE and get a decent run, even if only in opposition.
A good analogy, tat: there is no doubt Brown has firmly nailed himself to the lectern at the moment. Time will tell. It’ll only cost me a tenner in any event.
Sky news reporting 5 point poll boost for Labour. Some dead parrot that TAT
Labour’s bounce is of the dead cat variety, anon.
It’s a conference bounce. A sympathy vote. An underdog rally. And the poll was done in a loonybin. Or a masochist convention.
anonospaz,
hey, go ahead, base the future of the labour movement on a single sky poll to justify the propping up of the useless junkie failure, gordon brown.
you fucking imbecile.
you are a traitor to the working class and, if a court allowed me to, I would happily hang you with my own hands.
I cannot guarantee that I will get the rope length right and things could be a bit messy and drawn out so I will apologise for that in advance.
The poll was done in a Durham Jobcentre on giro day.
Doesn’t matter any more. We all now know that Mandy has taken over from Gordon and the Labour party are excited by this.
Next stage will be to retire Gordon and elect Mandelson, making it all legal above board and a vote winner.
Even I a die hard Tory would rather have Mandy as PM than Dave.
it is not Mandy or Dave that matters – that is like choosing a band because of the front man or woman – Blondie would always win, even if she was fronting a bunch of tone deaf, anarchic maniacs armed with scrap metal and hammers for instuments.
The choice surely should be based on the overall competence of the band (or party).
Our political system requries a change every few years just to get one bunch of grasping bastards out and another in – if only because they will take a bit of time before they mess us around and subject us to their own form of torture masquading as policy.
Mandy is the best power broker in the UK, and therefore the most effective politician. That isn’t what I want from the PM. I want leadership and vision, not world class scheming and backstabbing. In its’ absence, benine incompetence will suffice and on balance, the Torys will fuck us up less then Labour.
Let’s not also forget that Labour as a party and individually need to be punished for what they have done to our country.
If Mr and Mrs Balls would No stand for re election then a Mandy government would be a no brainer. as it is NO way should this crooked couple siup milk from the taxpayer’s breast anymore.
I’m just fucking sick of all this tat and nonsense. The truth is Gordon brown and his fucking authoritarian, anti-democratic government of none of the talents are just a bunch of self-serving hypocritical bastards who in any other country would be taken out and shot but in good old england are allowed to continue their butchering of the country because we are all so civilised here.
What the fuck is wrong with people???
Can’t we just fuck the lot of them now? Who needs an election? Brown doesn’t??? Can’t we just throw the lot of them out now???? Who needs Brighton being isolated because new fucking labour are in town????? Get rid of them!!!!!
Just saw 10 mins of channel 4 news, journo interviewing Labour vermin as to whether they would challenge the Dear Leader. There was a wonderful shot of the utter arsewipe Ed Balls outside the venue.
The TV shot had a poster for UB40 in the background. Brilliant.
Fuck you Ed. You contemptible PoS.
Ballshit.
I am sure someone more geeky than me can find it and post a link.
What a pain in the arse is the C4 News website
Shot of the UB40 poster (how appropriate!) is at 3′06″ on this video:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1529573111?bclid=41838751001&bctid=42462591001
Lord Adonis has just gone 5-0 up on Sky TV
He managed to work in the mantra “Britain’s hard working Families” 5 times!!
My money’s on him – no hard spinning Labourite can beat that score – or can they?
I use this handy cut out’n'keep bingo card. It’s a little out of date but that is telling in itself; for example “UNEMPLOYMENT STILL LOWER THAN IN 1997″ no longer counts but hey ho and there’s still a chance they’ll use it as their speeches are not exactly truthful in the first place! Maybe a bonus point if someone dares use it?
Brown Bingo
A little off topic, but a thoughtful piece in the Telegraph about banker bashing. The final paragraph is the key part.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jeremywarner/100001103/darling-tries-to-recalibrate-the-investment-versus-cuts-debate/
Oh Dear. Labour actually needs the bankers to balance the books.
And, of course, they need us to ‘hopefully’ vote for them.
Any news about Baroness Scotland’s imminent resignation? Baronness Uddin’s and Jacqui’s imminent prosecution? And no doubt Lord Foulkes and bob’ainbustinigit’ are propping up a Brighton bar laughing up their sleeves at how they’ve fooled the electorate over those imaginary helicopters.
Guido: Where’s my prize for the 10-day ago Caption Competition?
Dunno, can you give me a link to your winning entry?
Hi guys, want a good bash?
I was bullied at school because of my name, I seek retribution by hitting people in an official capacity.
You should thank your lucky stars you’re not called “Lela Swan Decock”. She’s a real person, check out Facebook or google.
O/T a 14 year old girl has collapsed and died after being given the new cancer vacine presently being given country wide to girls of teen age.
The BBC has a report that states
“When the national immunisation project was announced, there was some controversy about the selection of Cervarix over Gardasil, which is used by the majority of vaccination programmes worldwide.”
Serious question.
Why are we using a relative unkown vaccine when a known vaxcine used everywhere else worldwide is been disregarded? I wouldn’t ask normally but it has to have a licence to be used and the licence is issued via the Department of Health and thats Labour.
Just concerned as I don’t tust them and I have two girls myself so naturally concerned as would any parent be.
Presumably this has something to do with cost and with the company successfully selling Cervarix to the government.
Question is who produces Cervarix and who produces Gardasil and what did each of them offer the Health Ministry in order to promote their product? And what did Cervarix offer, and to whom, that was greater than what Gardasil offered?
I have a girl too – so I am very interested in the answer to these questions.
Ceravix is produced by GlaxoSmithKline (GSK)
Gardasil by Merck an international pharmaceutical company.
not sure why one was chosen over the other
It’s the cheaper option, and it’s made in the UK apparantly.
http://cancerdrugnewsblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/uk-chooses-cervarix-over-gardasil-for.html seems reasonably balanced discussion
Reasonably balanced ?
Only if Cervarix is proved categorically, internationally, to be the more effective.
Is it???
We need to know for our kids!!!
As an ExEngineer I know that normally people would not put all the eggs in one basket. You never fly a plane with 4 new jet turbines. Even a new test flight model introduction has tried proven engines.
SO WHY HAVE ALL OUR EGGS BEEN FORCE TREATED BY A SINGLE TIME UNPROVED VACINE. NO trial girl or boy has grown up yet!
Genocide.
My own 14 year old daugther was due to have the vaccine today. We refused permission on the basis of family history of blood clots which is a recognised side effect.
Sympathy to those parents.
just for accuracy, the PM doesn’t have his finger on the button – there is no button.
The order to launch a nuclear (or any other attack) is given by military officers following instructions from the appropriate minister. The sub commander can launch a missile with the agreement of the deputy commander (X0), and may be authorised to do so on their own authority in the event of a pre-emptive strike on the UK – dpending on the content of the letter from the PM to the commander.
The PM is not head of the Armed Forces (the Queen is) so the UK based officers could refuse to issue the lauch order, and the sub commander or XO could refuse to obey such an order at their discretion. Obviously if they were wrong, and there was anything left of Britain, they would be subject to disciplinary procedure.
It is one of the last few vestiges of our consitution that the seperation of powers that this Government has been so assiduously dismantling.
You will be pleased to know that the submarine officers and their families are all subject to mental health screening.
Brown may be able to destroy our country, but he can’t destroy the world.
and I should add he can’t (and hasn’t) saved it either!
That is NOT accuracy. You are just explaining the position as you have been told or perceive it to be.
Rather too many “could’s” there for comfort I’d say, STPF.
Absolutely – lots of could’s, and therefore many brains in the system. BG doesn’t have a nuclear trigger that he can use to unilaterally launch missiles on his own authority. It helps me sleep at night knowing that he can smash nokias and trash our country, but that is small beer compared to deciding to nuke Washington in a Columbine style attack because he was rejected by the cool kid.
‘Depending on the content of the letter from the PM to the commander’
What does that mean? If the PM says Fire!, in writing, does the commander issue an order to fire?
I suspect he does.
He might, he might not – that is the point. The decision is his and the X0’s. Brown cannot force him to, and I hope that if the decision got as far as the sub commander, it had already been subjected to serious scruitiny by the senior officers who would send it to the sub.
Let’s hope the commanders have all got Queen Madge’s cellphone number in case they get a letter.
Watch Maguire-he’s hyper.How would he ever notice Gordo?
Cocaine has allegedly been taken at the Labour Party conference.A newspaper investigation reportedly discovered traces of the class A drug in toilets used by MPs, journalists and lobbyists.
95 The Grand Hotel brighton IRA bomb
Cocaine tests were made at the Grand Hotel in Brighton
London’s Evening Standard said swabs from five lavatories near parties at the five-star Grand and Metropole hotels, had tested positive.
Asked about the report, a Labour spokesman said: “We would always encourage a newspaper to pass such evidence to the police so that they can judge the right course of action.”
FUCKING HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!
“Right course of action”, “lessons will be learnt”. Piss off.
Lesson 1 to Gordon Brown – Shoot yourself in the head you fucking dysfunctional international embarrassment of an individual. If you’re the best Labour can muster you and your party are well and truly fucked.
I think five bellies smuggled it in.
She must have three pounds of crack in her knickers.
Apparently Jug Ears has asked Cameron three times already about his involvement with drugs. Sunday will almost certainly be the 4th.
He should just tell the truth about what he did in his youth. He won’t be alone and none of us ‘oldies’ are going to judge him badly for it. Good grief we all had a youth!! There will be parts of it most of us regret!!!
As has been said on here today, ad nauseum, taking drugs in his youth does not render him icapable of doing the PM’s job. Indeed those mistakes might have made him a deeper and more thoughtful person.
Taking ante-depressants to deal with an entrenched mental illness whilst in high office is another matter and the public/taxpayers have a right to know if that is happening.
Was Data that supported Global Warming “cherry-picked”?
http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=7168
Looks very likely.
Of course it was. Any sane individual can see HardWorkingFamilies living under GlobalWarming as a massive tax raising opportunity not to be sniffed at.
Is climateaudit run by Stephen McIntyre of Northwest Exploration Co. Ltd. Toronto, Ontario, Canada who founded Northwest Exploration Co. Ltd. to be taken over to form the oil and gas exploration company CGX Energy Inc ?
looks more than likely as he admits it himself and is what scientists would call a fact.
No laughable conflict of interest there then ?
Guido does have a point. At one stage Call Me Dave could not fart without a Journo asking him if her did or does do illega drugs. Kevin Maguire called him Druggie Dave.
So why is Kevin so shocked when Gordon is ever so delicately asked if Gordon takes LEGAL drugs?
Because he is a total cnt
They say any PR,good or bad is good PR and toilets is using our Dave’s drug habits to create PR,it gets us trash off the dear Baroness and anything they want to keep us off,it’s working,the dear Baroness has had a quiet day from us trash,therefore the MSM have not had to carry on with it,big ears just helped it along no doubt with ali and mandy’s permission.
He wasn’t asked by Andrew Marr if he took legal drugs – he was asked if he took PAINKILLERS.
C’mon – anyone can see that Andrew asked the wrong question – he should have said ANTI-DEPRESSANTS!!!! Why didn’t he?
mandy and Alastair Campbell were instantly busy around the TV studios and major newspapers euphorically and legitimately peddling the story that , of course, gordon does not take painkillers.
What a whitewash!!! Labour is good at it – let’s give then their due!
And if Gordon does take painkillers then it would be down to his crook eye and his devotion to serve us all and save the world.
He did make a reference to people taking tablets that ‘help them get by’, as well as painkillers Nell. I took that as meaning antidepressants. Most folk would I reckon.
Well let’s face it Dack – I’m going to need them soon too if this Labour crew don’t go quickly!
I’d get ‘em on repeat prescription for when CMD gets in. Vote independent and chase those blues away ;)
I Lie Heavy on the UK.
Geddit ?
I was gobsmacked to hear Tim Montgomerie of Conservaqrive Home defending gordon and attacking Guido on PM this evening.
What an odd world!!
What Montgommery said was surprising in places, but he never mentioned Guido…
He most certainly did in his coded way.
He is a BluLabour supporter.
He’s just a pal of the Next Authoritarian Socialist to ruin the country.
everyone’s a socialist you see
even Bush and the neocons were socialists
the words obsessive and nutjob come to mind
It’s not even as if McGuire is a useful idiot. Useless more like.
So the Argument is that we need to keep increasing the population to pay for the present population’s needs.
Other than being self defeating and ignoring the fact that the present population has been taxed in plenty to cover their future needs.
Would it not be better that we went the other way and reduced the population thus reducing all the costs involved ?
First for the snip then? I hear it’s quite painless.
If you have an economic system based on growth, then you need growth to sustain it. Growth can come from increasing efficiency – using the same resources to do more; Innovation – coming up with ideas that create additional value; Working harder.
This Government has decided upon a policy of reducing efficiency by increasing the proportion of the workforce that doesn’t work and those who add no value in tax funded non-job combined with increasing the tax burden on anyone who decides to work to support the rest.
To fund this they have followed a twin track policy encouraging a debt fueled bubble which they have shown real creativity in finding new ways to tax and increase immigration to provide new workers who will provide a short term efficiency gain doing shitty jobs for crap money (such as Tongan cleaners).
Obviously now that the bubble has burst, increasing immigration is combined by ever greater taxes on the productive minority of the popluation to fund ever more Government spending is the answer – if you live in the Alice in Wonderland world of Labour policy.
Is toilets crossing his legs to hide the fact he’d cum in his pants in Gordon’s presence?
Look, surely you can understand that asking someone if they took recreational drugs like cannabis, cocaine, etc, in the past, isn’t the same as enquiring about what prescribed drugs, if any, they are now taking for health reasons.
Maguire is a slimy little bowl of fermenting tutle cum.
This man is in the same league as campbell, the lowest of the low.
Nope. Let’s be honest!!!
Maguire is lower than any other form of life on earth!!!!!
The election campaign will be full of dirty tricks. Mandleson is a tv operator, and we have all seen
How the broadcast journos have been soft on labour and havn’t asked any of the right questions.
Campbell is a newspaper operator, and it is noticable how the papers are losing their brown vitriol.
As mentioned above, marr probably will ask dave about his student habits on sunday to try
To degloss the tory conference, maybe along with a ’shock’ brown resignation to switch the media
Focus from tory confrence to next labour leader\PM. It is disgusting that they think they can have
2 unelected PM’s, but they’ve sussed that the electorate don’t care much as someone above
Noted the electorate are as financially iliterate as brown and just want house prices to go up again.
What is clear is that the recession hasn’t begun yet. QE, super low intrest rates and a large proportion
Of the population working for the state (directly or indirectly e.g. Capita) and on career benifits
Has mitigated the effects of the bank crisis somewhat. However, the debasement of money and
Market forces will push inflation and intrest rates up, and the weak pound will have us importing
Inflation for the next decade.
What is happening is a massive power grab by the state (not just here but in the EU and US too)
And accompanying this a massive effort is being made to manipulate public opinion in favour
Of state control of the economy. This will not work in the long run, but in terms of the Uk political
Scene, the labour party will campaign on a ’saving the public sector’ and ‘debt doens’t matter’ line
Which will go down well as the electorate view events in the short term, not realising (or not wanting to realise)
That quick fixes and delayed pain can work for only so long.
Dirty tricks and outright lies will be used by the labour party, their political appointments in the public sector,
Quangos and the media. If they can get the rigged polls to be close before the election then postal
Vote fraud etc can be legitimised in the public’s mind.
The claim that blogs are the ‘extreme right wing’ are just the start of a long and uncertain 7 months.
Maguire is a slimy little bowl of fermenting turtle cum.
How can you equate maguire to the beginning of turtle babies??? Wonderful things. Part of marvellous nature.
Maguire????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Apparently the moron has a deformed head and his eye will fall out if you give him a smack. The rugby guy who kicked the other one of the pig’s eyes out should be a national hero with a knighthood and have loads of buxom sluts as his beck-and-call.
Anyway, remember to pray for Gordon Brown to die at bed time.
Why is he called Toilets Maguire?
Macguire is a pathetic character and is well known as an apologist for Brown. He is full of cr@p and the electorate know it. This is his attempt to help Brown recover some ground but his duplicity is there for all to see. Lets see what he has to say about the half empty conference hall in Brighton. It is becoming a farce.
Becoming a farce? It’s been that since 1997
Who doesn’t love a good old face though. It’s entertaining. (at least it was until everybody started hailing Mandleson’s speech as brilliant, when it came across as slightly unhinged – and as far as I could tell most of his jokes met with a stony silence from Labour’s dispirited activists).
No shit?
Given how biased the BBC has been against the Tories and infavour of Brown – no doubt becuase they are still scared of offending their masters’ feelings, the fact that Labour now moan about their treatment by the press must mean it’s about right.
that was the link I meant to post
Maguire is a bit of a two-faced prick. He always presents a genial air whenever he appears on TV, but off screen his behaviour is just shitty. We never got the entire truth about his involvement with the MacBride affair.
Did they have Pils in the green room ?
What about Charles Kennedy and his drinking habits. Was it not right to ask him about his alcoholism? But since all the usual suspects clamoured and pushed for Charles Kennedy to be pushed out, they don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to the Great Blind (GB) leader and his anti-depressants.
Note that Winston Churchill suffered from a mental illness so having one doesn’t preclude a person from being Prime Minister, but it should still mean that they are checked as to whether or not the illness does affect their job.
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