September 9th, 2009

Cruddas Underwhelms

Guido has to confess to a soft-spot for Jon Cruddas. He comes across as the more thinking type of leftie – he spotted earlier than most within Labour that Cameron might have electoral appeal and a competitive ideological offering, when they were dismissing him merely as a salesman-chameleon.  He has shown a far better understanding of the Notting Hill set, possibly because he is a member. So his widely anticipated Compass speech last night was a little underwhelming.

He was good on the diagnosis of Labour’s troubles and the loss by New Labour of the social anchor of their core social base (LabourList has the full text). Policy-wise his prescription seemed as uncompelling as Gordon Brown’s own. The FT’s Jim Pickard took notes:

1 – establishment of a High Pay Commission – Yawn, symbolism of no consequence.
2 – greater tax justice, including closing tax havens and more equal distribution of income and wealth; Levelling down.  When even the Guardian uses tax havens you can bet they won’t be closed.
3 – index link benefit levels, pensions and the minimum wage to average incomes; Can taxpayers really afford higher dole and benefits with 6 million economically inactive welfare recipents and gargantuan government debt?
4 – replacing tuition fees with a graduate solidarity tax;  Whatever.
5 – a Fair Employment Clause in all public contracts; Whatever.
6 – windfall and transaction taxes and resetting capital gains tax; Sure, drive businesses,  jobs and capital overseas.
7 – a new covenant with the military, including more investment in mental healthcare, equipment, housing and support for veterans funded by scrapping plans to renew Trident and re-deploying the money saved within the Minister Of Defence budget;  Maybe.  Isn’t this LibDem policy?
8 – a Green New Deal, to include scrapping the third runway at Heathrow; Hardly going to inspire consumerist voters.
9 – remutualisation of the finance sector;  Half of it is nationalised already.
10 – a credit card bill of rights for consumers. ‘What do we want – Standardised APR definitions – When do we want ‘em? NOW!’ To the barricades comrades

If Cruddas is to be the source of inspirational ideas for the left, Guido has to say: the cupboard is bare.


174 Comments

  1. 1
    shelling-out says:

    John Cruddas stood for Harriet’s job. He should have got it.

    He is one of a very small handful of Labour people who actually talks sense.

    • 2
      shelling-out says:

      …and by that I mean then – not so much now.

    • 29
      Anonymous says:

      They don’t stand a chance, they booted out success and welcomed failure when they replaced Blair with Brown. Labour are the suicidal party.

      • 35
        Dr. David Kelly says:

        Suicide? Yeah. Right.

      • 89
        Anonymous says:

        brown being the longest suicide note in history, taking us all down with them.

        • 161

          Exactly. He is the sort of suicide who takes a shotgun to his family and pets before smashing his car with a sledgehammer and burning the house down.
          The sort of mentalists who can’t stand the thought of people thinking him a failure, even when he won’t be around anymore, so he decides to take them with him

    • 33
      Dick the Prick says:

      i think he realised last night that he was putting the boot in and got a bit nervy – bit late for that shite

    • 51
      backwoodsman says:

      ” He’s one of a very small handful of labour people who actually talks sense ”

      Not on the evidence above he isn’t, he’s just another worthless mong who hasn’t realised that East Germany wasn’t an unqualified success. The thought of people like crudas walking away with a pension that I have contributed to, makes the concept of a political party with a manifesto to prosecute these fuckers infinitely appealing.

    • 64
      Talwin says:

      If he was really talking sense he’d call for Brown to be removed.

  2. 3
    Throbber says:

    Yawn

  3. 4
    Phil O'Pastree says:

    You fogot one:

    11. White owned farms to be seized and the land given to the Afghan war veterans.

  4. 5
    Let the Corporations and City run wild and free says:

    This is Communist nonsense.

    Anyone would think there had been a cataclysmic faliure of the free market and it’s idealogues instead of the triumph of the City and it’s bonus led culture that has led us out of this tiny downturn.

    Curbs on bonuses ?? Greater Tax justice ??? Shutting down Tax Havens ???
    Is this Communist quite mad ?
    Tax loopholes, havens and incredible bonuses are a natural function of the market. tax is only for the little people after all.

    Increasing welfare and pensions in a recession ?
    That’s not going to be very popular and it’s not as if we bail out companies with hundreds of billions of taxpayers cash when they get in trouble.
    Fend for yourself unemployed and sponging old people.
    Where was your forethought in fecklessly not avoiding the recession or irresponsibly becoming old ? You have only yourself to blame.
    Show a little responsibility for once.

    Fair employment. Credit card bills of rights ? Pshaw!
    Who cares about idiot consumers. Buyer beware.

    What about the Corporations who suffer terribly ? when will we hear a Government stand up for the rights of big business and the super-rich for once ?
    (Mandy can’t be everywhere you know)

    • 36
      Dick the Prick says:

      tit

    • 44
      John Crudarse says:

      Where is Mandy at the moment? He seems to have given up being Gordon’s nurse-maid. Perhaps he’s in a bar somewhere, getting hammered (so to speak), drowning his sorrows.

    • 52
      Sir William Waad says:

      Your irony is well-aimed, but the solution is not higher taxes. We’ve been trying that for the last 15 years and it hasn’t worked. We need to cut down both on corporate welfare (billions for bankers) and personal welfare (billions for the idle) and get away from the idea that the Government owes us a living. Cut taxes on the poor – it is disgusting that people start to pay tax and NI well below the poverty threshold and then pay VAT on essentials such as clothes – and end handouts to those who should be able to look after themselves, including corporate Britain.

      • 68
        Anonymous says:

        Tell it to Brown and Cameron or rather Darling and Osborne
        Because for all their talk about cuts yesterday they were noticably reticent on taxes. The fact is that both of them know they will have to put taxes up.

        The debt will have to be paid down and the cuts can only do so much.
        Cuts are a certainty but the reality is they won’t be enough and ringfencing only emphasises that fact.

        • 86
          shelling-out says:

          Well at least Cameron has started his cuts at the top, ie. parliament. He knows he can’t expect us all to tighten our belts if the people at the top are still enjoying the sort of lifestyle most of us can only dream about.

          Haven’t heard anything like that from Alastair. He wants to cut public sector spending, but hasn’t mentioned MP’s. That tells me he has no intention of cutting any of their perks.

        • 101
          jgm2 says:

          Yep. Brilliant from Cameron. Big announcements. Cuts in ministers pay and numbers. Cuts in their perks. Cuts in their pensions. Cuts in their numbers.

          Cuts all costed to provide large sounding figures in the hundreds of millions. Sounds like a lot but only half a days additional debt under the Labour Occupation of Economic Imbecility.

          You’d want to be fucking blind not to see what who he’s setting up with that. The public sector is going to get a proper arse-fucking by Cameron. He’s removed every fallback position UNISON and the rest of the deviant fuckers have.

          We’ve cut pay for ourselves. We’ve abolished our own final salary scheme. We’ve cut numbers by 15%.

          We’ve shown the way.

          Now it’s your turn.

          Labour and the public sector unions are being completely out-manouvered.

        • 108
          Anonymous says:

          wait till the Party conferences for the real “red meat” from both Parties.

          the two Parties own reports and investigations have also yet to come in on the expenses affair and they will re-ignite the matter for a time and prompt yet more handwringing and surface gloss proposals

          Camerons cuts are pure PR which isn’t to say that Mandelson won’t be doing precisely the same thing soon enough.

          they don’t even scratch the surface as Cameron himself admitted.
          Darlings “reforms” will be little better

          the pork will go on

    • 67
      Phil O'Pastree says:

      The success of the City has been the one thing above all else which has given the Blair/Brown government any credibility whatsoever. Its temporary failure has exposed these charlatans for what they are.

      Yes let’s blame the evil bankers with their top hats and cigars – it is their fault we have millions unemployed, record and unsustainable national debt, the NHS creaking at its seams, the British Army fighting for American foreign policy yada yada..

      Makes you wonder then what the fuck the government has been doing these last 12 years. It’s a bit late now to be coming up with bright ideas, if you can call Cruddas’ tired old socialist policies of envy that.

      • 79
        Anthony Steen says:

        Envy is always at the root of this vile populist communist streak running through politics at the moment

        take me for example

        I think I behaved, if I may say so, impeccably. I have done nothing criminal, that’s the most awful thing, and do you know what it is about? Jealousy.

        I have got a very, very large house. Some people say it looks like Balmoral, but it’s a merchant house of the 19th century.

        It’s not particularly attractive, it just does me nicely and it’s got room to actually plant a few trees.

        • 90
          Anonymous says:

          Cut from Wikipedia

        • 97
          shelling-out says:

          There are a lot of people out here whose houses “do them nicely”, and they are far more modest than your abode, Mr Steen.

          I wonder how you would feel if your home was repossessed? Envious? I doubt it.

        • 98
          Sir Fred Goodwin says:

          Well said that man Steen!

          Take me. Anyone would think I had behaved like a contemptible arse if you believed the populist gutter press.

          Nothing could be further from the truth.

          The Banks behaved responsibly throughout and if some pocketed Billions in Bonuses for making incredibly risky gambles on toxic derivatives, like credit default swaps and collaterallised loan obligations, then that is as it should be. The plebs can have their Bingo and National Lottery the City has it’s own exciting gambling opportunities.

          You can hardly blame such enterprising behaviour merely because it brought the whole system crashing down around our ears.
          The bonuses were pocketed so it was a superb success.
          Anything else is the petty jealousy of socialists and malcontents.

          I might say that the credit ratings agencies and the regulators were only obeying Browns orders so if anyone were foolish enough to try and level blame in the trifling matter or the worst recession in decades, the Banks and the City have totally clean hands and consciences.

          Brown can make his own excuses for behaving like a cretin.

        • 121

          Governments extorted alot more in tax from banks than bank staff got in bonuses.

          The state also regulated the credit bubble into existence through manipulating the inflation measures and getting rid of reserve requirements.

          The Regulator failed dismally.

        • 135
          Anannymong says:

          Those poor bankers *sob* that’s the saddest thing I’ve heard in years.
          If only there were more like you willing to selflessly put the plight of these helpless, pitiful, unfortunate victims of circumstance and over-regulation to the wider public.

          You would move them and all those silly Politicians to tears with such an impassioned plea on their behalf. They don’t know how lucky they are to have such a loyal friend.

    • 147
      Hard-Lazing Voter says:

      Failure of the free market? You’re right. Those shit banks shouldn’t even exist anymore. So much for that “free market.”

      And without companies there is no economy and without an econome are is no welfare and pensions, you daft Hunt.

      0/10, get to the back of the class so I can’t see your face.

      • 152
        Hard-Glazed Floater says:

        What you’ve done there is mistake valid criticism of the mollycoddled and bailed out financial sector of the economy for some kind of lunatic conclusion that all Companies should therefor not exist.

        Let’s also gloss over the fact that you appear to have have forgotten the small businesses that make up the backbone of the economy and are understandably enraged that they go to the wall in a recession while the square mile’s finest sponge of the state.

        There’s also the small matter that almost every other Western Industrialised Market economy managed this clusterfuck much better than the UK without either collapsing into your nutty idea of a pre-industrial barter system or sucking the cocks of the bankers quite so shamelessly.

        Apart from all that though.. nicely done.
        You fuckwitted pile of baboon-shit.

  5. 6
    Anonymous says:

    He looks good because the rest are so bad.

  6. 7
    WhiteEagleClub says:

    Cruddas is the next Kinnock. After the 2010 defeat we’ll have the pleasure of the Kinnock-Hattersley ‘dream ticket’ in the form of Cruddas-Purnell.

    • 16
      Anonymous says:

      an election against johnson is looking more likely by the day
      the plotters are gaining ground and support with every failed tired brown relaunch attempt
      every day that passes with the polls steadfastly indicating to a conservative landslide makes a leadership challenge in october probable not just possible

      • 27
        Reg511 says:

        And where is the Baroness of Boy, what dark arts are being practised whilst out of scrutiny?

        • 42
          brussel-louts says:

          he’s probably having a word in the ears of his EU buddies and various EU politicians to ensure Tony’s smooth coronation as EU President

          but no doubt he’s got a few of his minions taking delegations and promises from the Johnson and Milliband camps to see which way the wind is blowing and who might be the more malleable of the two

        • 140
          Trainspotter says:

          Last heard of in China, working on lucrative contracts for our hard-working businesses. And certainly not puppeteering with plausible deniability.

  7. 8
    Anonymous says:

    LABOUR, THE POLITICS OF ENVY, ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, ALWAYS WILL BE.

    Labour only know how to spend money they have never earned. Once it is gone and they have borrowed to the point of bankruptcy, they are left with nothing. They stand for nothing apart from telling you how to live your life.

  8. 10
    Centre Parting says:

    (Apologies to David Steel) -

    ‘Labour MPs, go back to your constituencies and prepare to put your houses on the market……..’

    • 39
      Dick the Prick says:

      Their houses aren’t in their constituencies…..much like maddine dotties

    • 72
      Talwin says:

      “….put you houses on the market….” But mind how you go with avoiding capital gains tax this time.

  9. 11
    Solutions not Problems says:

    More tax and more “rights” is a recipe for failure, electorally or economically. So why do people think Cruddas is clever?

    Most of these new rights are ephemeral anyway, since employers will adjust their behaviour to avoid them applying (ie they will employ fewer and fewer people).

    Oh yes, and he’s missed a really good idea to improve the Treasury’s revenue stream – why not have a tax on all the tax you pay, of say 20%? This would send receipts soaring to infinity and cure the deficit for ever once the cycle of ever-increasing payments got going……

    • 25
      Sod 'em all says:

      Taxing tax? Don’t give these cu­nts ideas, please!
      They just don’t understand how the free market works. Trevor Phillips of the “Equality” Commission is still scratching his little woolly nut over why women STILL after decades of legislation, earn less than men. Phillips, you thick fuck-head: no employer in their right mind would want to take the risk of employing a woman of child-bearing age, given the amount of fully paid time off she can now get for having a baby. When there’s NO other choice than to employ a woman, she’ll naturally get paid less by way of a risk premium against her getting up the spout. Obvious – to anyone but a Socialist – innit?

      • 59
        shelling-out says:

        There’s the ageists out there too.

        At 53 I can’t get jobs that I’m more than qualified to do. They keep telling us that there are more jobs out here but I’ve seen no evidence of that.

        Employers would rather employ people who, either already work for them, or youngsters who would do the job for a lot less money.

      • 71
        Sarah says:

        I don’t see why any woman should get maternity pay at all. State benefits, yes. Money from the private sector? no. If you want equality, here it is: you work like men, and get paid the same. You want a couple of years off to have a baby? great! Just get your state benefits for the time off and re-apply for a job on the open market when you want to return to work. Having ovaries should not mean that you’re “entitled” to a job.

        • 91
          shelling-out says:

          I agree with that. When our children were born, it was up to us to pay for childcare, or stay at home and look after them ourselves, which is what we did. We didn’t get the help from the state that parents are getting now.

          If you can’t afford to have children, don’t have them.

        • 110
          English Viking says:

          I think you may be missing the point of the so called ‘help’ the Gov ‘give’. It creates a sense of entitlement and in fickle, weak-minded people it even engenders gratitude. The recipients begin to think that they ‘deserve’ the money, and become vocal supporters of the benefits system, even though they are not unemployed. The Client State expands, Labour get constantly re-elected. Until the money runs out.

      • 107
        Memory Man says:

        Well, the evidence suggests that it is the impact of career choices, interuptions for child-bearing and lifestyle choices thereafter.

        The pay gap in wages/hour worked that exists is for women in relationships and increases with the number of children, young single women, or those without families experience no significant aggregate gap.

        So your Alan Sugar style rant is sexist bollocks from someone who – I am guessing – is not actually a major employer. Please don’t propagate this out-of-date lie any more.

        • 122
          shelling-out says:

          Yes, but surely if couples want to start families, that decision should not be made on what they get from the state.

          Plenty of young girls go out and get themselves pregnant because the council will house them and they will claim state benefits, which means they don’t have to try and get any form of employment.

          We have bred a generation who rely on the state, to live, and support their children, when they should be supporting them.

          We have already paid for our parenting. We got Child benefit and that was all. Why should we now pay for the children of layabouts?

          As I said, if people can’t afford to have children, they shouldn’t have them.

        • 139
          Sarah says:

          “career choices, interuptions for child-bearing and lifestyle choices thereafter”
          Why should any private employer bankroll this?

    • 150
      Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

      tax on tax of 20% works out at 25%, not infinity.

      • 164
        English Viking says:

        Tax of 20% on tax of 20 % is 24%.

        • 166
          Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

          So you start off with £100 tax.
          On the tax-tax you pay £20
          on the tax-tax-tax you pay £4
          on the tax-tax-tax-tax you pay 80p

          Keep going forever, and the tax on tax is £25.

        • 169
          Boycott the Р Я А Б Д А licence fee says:

          It doesn’t quite ever get there, though, does it? Do we have an expert in infinitisimal calculus who can inform us?

  10. 12
    Bring back Blair says:

    What a load of crud

  11. 13
  12. 17
    Rt Hon. Egbert Thumbtwiddle says:

    Another dribble-filled manifesto from the lefties.

    Now, if Cruddas had proposed compulsory mental sectioning and forceable ECT treatment for anyone harbouring the delusion that socialism works, then he’d be on to something.

    • 80
      Sarah says:

      Possibly not quite what you’re after – but labour have set up one of the most sinister organizations I’ve ever heard of:
      http://ftacwatch.blogspot.com

      I followed a link to this from the Gruaniad this morning – Jonathan Freedlands limp dick of a column.

      Sigh…… how much longer?

      • 116
        FTAC Watch says:

        Thanks for mentioning my site. My story is only just beginning. I shall shortly be telling of the abuse I suffered, such as physical degradation, and the lies told to the tribunal by ‘doctor’ Ferdinand Jonsson.

      • 124
        Sarah says:

        You’re welcome. Good luck with your campaign. I’ll check back regularly to see what’s going on.

  13. 19
    another day another non global warming story says:

    Why is a report by the climate change committee news headlines on the BBC?

    Is it editorial policy that anything global warming is to the the news of the day?

    This time they are attacking air travel, which is a shame as a full aircraft flying in a straight line dierectly from a to b is far less polluting than car or rail transport.

    I remember back in the 70s when acid rain was the BBCs hobby horse and always showed pictures of water vapour rising from they power station cooling towers to make their point. Totally ignoring the fack there was not a olecule of sulpher dioxide in that vapour. What happened to all the trees that the BBC said were going to die across Europe and around the world?

    • 22
      shelling-out says:

      It’s just another way of taxing us all to oblivion under the guise of global warming.

      • 28
        Sarah Palin says:

        Scientists are satanic devil worshippers.
        I will perform an exorcism on them live on Fox when I get my own show.

        • 40
          genghiz the kahn says:

          what happened the the threat from the depletion of the ozone layer? Al Beeb have been very quiet on that recently.

        • 64
          shelling-out says:

          They’re all scratching their heads to find something which has much more impact on us all – like gas and electricity.

          Some guy on TV this morning was saying that we would have to reduce our use of power by up to 90%. Scaremongering? Or trying to deflect attention away from somerhing far more prominent.

        • 73
          Phil O'Pastree says:

          Because it’s going to be a nice day today? I might even go fishing this afternoon.

        • 134
          Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

          63: That 90% figure is to do with “if you don’t cut air traffic you’ll have to cut everything else”.

          so it is scaremongering, but probably to highlight a point about air travel.
          Whatever they believe, politicians pretty much avoid the issue of air travel.

        • 156
          Van Jones says:

          It’s not cos I’m a truther communist, it’s cos I’m black innit.

    • 30
      The Director of Politically Correct 'n Convenient News at Al_Ja_Beeba says:

      Speaking as the Propaganda Arm of Al_Ja_Beeba, the State Broadcaster for Comrade Colonel Igorovich ben_gabe Kim Brownstainovich, the answer is “Yes”.

      We are here to promulgate, pontificate, and promote Gummunt ponzi schemes, poxy pounds, heavy taxes for all except us Very Special Comrades, and generally soporificate the sheeple wiv climate_Bore Noos.

      And we’re all going t0 get new Zils when Gorgon is proclaimed Commissar and Word Savior again next year!

      There!

    • 120
      JMT says:

      They did not die – in fact the Norwegians reckon “Acid Rain” boosted their forests.

      The yanks actually set up a mulit-billion study and made an astonishing discovery.

      “The difference between theory and practice is that in theory there is no difference”

      Acid rain was over-hyped.

      Big Problem: Governments had overtaxed and over-legislated for a non-existant problem. Solution: remove sulphur from diesel and claim to have saved the world, thereby keeping the proles quiet.

      This is the same sulphur that they suggest firing up into the sky to “combat Global Warming”.

      • 126

        and they claim Global Warming is caused by a “pollutant” that just happens to also be the basis for all plant-life.

        This “pollutant” is at it’s lowest level for 400 million years.

        • 148
          DZ says:

          AC1 9.55
          Not sure about that. Data from the Vostok ice core in the Antarctic shows an increasing CO2 level from about 10,000 years ago. However, based on the previous cyclical peaks around 125,000 and 250,000 years ago (at the same level as now – 285 ppm or so) the current peak is near the top. However …. can it keep on increasing when the Earths orbital dynamics change?

      • 154
        Sarah Palin says:

        I cast thee out satanic scientists with your sciencey sounding “facts”

        Invisible gases ? pollutants ? what kind of fools do you think we are ?

        Only God is invisible and everywhere

        begone foul demons of the lab, lest Jesus smite you with a fake dinosaur bone

    • 130
      Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

      Aircraft versus car. What are your figures for that?
      My figures would be – perhaps about 4l/100km/person for the best planes, full.
      So many many normal cars with two people in beats that.

      What’s the numbers for a train?

      PS: Acid rain- W.Germany and sweden seemed to ignore east germany burning masses of coal that contains huge amounts of Sulphur.

  14. 20
    bergen says:

    I suppose his greatest advantage is that he is not Balls,Milipede major or minor,Harperson or any other of the cast of Bright Young Things who have bankrupted this country from around the Cabinet table these last few years.

  15. 21
    The Fat fairy of fanciful finance says:

    Aye, – but wait ’til ye see ma’ secret weapon to gain back ma’ huge popular vote!!

    It’ll be punitive taxes on th’a airlines ye ken.

    Min’ ye, – nuthn’s ma’ ye und’stn.

    An’ a’ the sheeple luv me!

  16. 23
    Annonymong says:

    First a support for electronic vote counting, then, a soft spot for Cruddas, what more shocks have you got for us Guido?

  17. 24
    99999 says:

    So will the world end at 09:09 on 09:09:09 ? Pay no heed to those who say those in different time zones are still living so all is well, it is the Greenwich Meridian where time starts and ends.

    • 32
      tired and jaded says:

      We seem to have squeaked through 13 months ago on 08.08.08.

      And 13 months before that, etc. etc.

    • 45
      Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

      Maybe God is generous and loves mankind. We might all get a prize. I should like a new car please, and the wife would like some valeting equipment. Just off to make room in the garage.

      • 47
        IRB says:

        It would be one of those prizes where you have to call a premium rate line, hang on the line for fifteen minutes and be told that you’ve won a reconditioned PC (delivery not included).

  18. 26

    So where can I buy a chameleon from?

  19. 31
    jgm2 says:

    Labour MP Jon Cruddas says the party has “no compelling case for re-election” and is in danger of drifting into opposition.

    I’d say the Labour party isn’t ‘drifting into opposition’ it is steaming full ahead, smoke pouring from the funnels, boilers bursting at the seams into opposition.

    Good.

    At the rate it’s going into opposition it might crash through the Liberals.

  20. 38
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Looks like an sounds like the sort of politican whose ideology was kicked out for good in much of Eastern and Central Europe 20 years ago. If he is the answer then Labour are truely screwed.

  21. 43
    Sir William Waad says:

    Let me just pick on the ‘graduate solidarity tax’. This would not be paid by people who just push off overseas after graduating. It would also encourage more people to doss around for three years taking useless, low-grade degrees that do not fit them for work. It would not solve the problem of social mobility having fallen so much since the postwar period, because that failure is casued by the collpase in state secondary education and the collapse in family life.

    • 57
      Comrade Cruddas says:

      Comrade Waad, please read the entire policy. New graduates will not be eligible for exit visas until they have demonstrated sufficient “solidarity”.

    • 92
      Sarah says:

      If I can keep earning fuck all for the next few years I won’t have to pay back my student loan at all! hahahahhaha
      Well, if free university education was good enough to Tony Blair, it’s certainly good enough for an uppity peasant like me.

  22. 48
    nell says:

    They keep fooling themselves that if only they replaced gordon, if only the economy would turn round, if only they changed the message, then they will win the next election.

    They can’t accept that we see Labour as a corrupt, spent force and have stopped listening to them.

    In 2010 most of them, thank goodness, will be facing the prospect of selling off those posh taxpayer funded houses and getting a proper job. And good riddance too!!

    • 61
      jgm2 says:

      The only way the economy will turn around is if 200bn quid of printed and squandered money really is enough to make up for the real fall in economic activity. Which it may well be.

      The problem comes when we try and repeat the trick next year. Say 250bn? 300bn?

      And the year after that. And the year after that. Because that’s what Brown has been doing since 2001.

      This is just the classic daytime TV mentality of taking out another, bigger loan to pay off your existing loans. It is Ocean Finance economics.

  23. 55
    Hazel Ble-arse says:

    Does this mean I can have my cheque back?

  24. 58
    Andy Murray says:

    I’m a winner and I know a winner when I see one: vote Gordon Brown

    • 170
      Snotsicle says:

      Perhaps you could help Gordon to improve his personality and sense of humour.
      On second thoughts, perhaps not.

  25. 60
    Has anyone seen Mike Hunt says:

    Sir this man is my mp , Never seen him since i mved here in over 6 years .

  26. 62
    anonymously says:

    Cruddas is not that underwhelming – he’s clear about where he stands:

    # Voted a mixture of for and against a transparent Parliament. votes, speeches
    # Voted a mixture of for and against introducing a smoking ban. votes, speeches
    # Voted moderately for introducing ID cards. votes, speeches
    # Voted very strongly for introducing foundation hospitals. votes, speeches
    # Voted moderately against introducing student top-up fees. votes, speeches
    # Voted strongly for Labour’s anti-terrorism laws. votes, speeches
    # Voted very strongly for the Iraq war. votes, speeches
    # Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war. votes, speeches
    # Voted very strongly against replacing Trident. votes, speeches
    # Voted very strongly for the hunting ban. votes, speeches
    # Voted strongly for equal gay rights. votes, speeches
    # Voted a mixture of for and against laws to stop climate change.

    he just trying to endear himself with the voters, something about enjoying the fame of being in the spotlight…

  27. 63
    Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

    Are you there John?

    Nobody’s listening old mate. You’ve blown it. You are all finished for the foreseeable. We need to believe the future will be better, that things will change, that we can progress through our own efforts and determination to succeed. Do you really think there is a place for you in those dreams? Of course you don’t, because you are not an idiot for all your shortcomings. You are just in denial, hoping against hope that something will turn up. It won’t. So just go quietly and quickly. Please.

    • 129
      Oil Beef Hooked says:

      It’s simple really.

      Stop spending money you don’t have.

      Plant trees.

      Stop sweating.

  28. 74
    J.Langer says:

    Like I said your scotch pom tennis player is a lazy bastard who thinks he’s better than he is.

    Justin.

  29. 77
    Andy Murray's mum says:

    Go Croatia! Murder those sassenach bastards!

    oh dear.

  30. 78
    Stronghold Barricades says:

    Haven’t we known for sometime that the Labour cupboard is bare?

    Throughout their almost 13 years (unlucky for some) they have cherry picked policies from others policies when they have tried to force the opposition to make the running

    Hopefully the vacuum will consume them

  31. 82
    smilie in your stout says:

    Where’s Mandelson? Don’t know. But wherever he is, you can be sure he’s plotting!

    Cruddas is in many ways worse than your more raving, foam-mouthed leftie. Putting on the decent bloke veneer doesn’t appeal to me when he refuses to address the big issues – the burden of the welfare state, mass immigration and the democratic deficit in the UK.

    Cruddas’s approach is just a kind of Wilsonian wish list.

    There’s certainly room for a left-orientated progressive politics but it should be about ensuring full employment, freeing the working class from welfare dependency and getting back control of the country from judges, bureaucrats and quango officials.

    • 96
      R. Sbandit says:

      Guido’s promised a story about a norty tory deviant ex foreign minister. All roads lead to Foy.

  32. 84
    SmogMonster says:

    Stripped of all the romantic waffle and endless quotes from lefty intellectuals you’ve never heard of, his basic thesis seems to be that Labour is all about redistributing wealth, so if there’s no wealth because they’ve wrecked the economy, they’re completely f*cked, like now. The Cruddas solution? Carry on regardless. Save the quangoes. Do not get a clue.

  33. 87
  34. 99
    Anonymous says:

    with regard to tax havens,

    since when does the british government have jurisdiction over non – british territories?

    how could a british government shut down litchenstein, monoco etc . without annexing them?

    …surley the proposal has to be to prevent british citizens or companies using tax havens.

    oh wait, everyone will leave (or stay here, skint). I know the bullys in G20, EU and OECD don’t like competition.., but seriously, short of global governance, how is this proposal possible?

    ..it isn’t and thus his policies are much like the rest of the government’s.. a load of shite calculated to get some headlines. yep lets just fuck sovereignty or honoring past commitments, or any of that. its not our fault our taxes are 60%, its the tax havens!

    ..what a load of old bolloxs

    • 113
      South of the M4 says:

      NuLabour thrive on the positive headline. By the time the 20% discover the deceit, the 80% only remember the headline. Clever bloke that Pareto fella….

  35. 103
    Barry O'Bummer says:

    Shit man, I’m gonna go to jail, or Kenya, which is even worse!

    http://americangrandjury.org/lucas-smith-affidavit-now-filed-with-the-us-district-court-obama-kenyan-bc

    Barack Hussein Obama’s Kenyan birth cetificate

    • 114
      jgm2 says:

      Hmmmmm. If you say so.

    • 117
      shelling-out says:

      Oh dear.

    • 131
      Sarah says:

      I get stuff like that from Kenya all the time – but it’s usually in the form of a letter asking me to help some poor person get a few million dollars out of the country. I’m not usually in a position to help them. But I have stopped giving money to any charity working in Africa. With all those millions swilling around, I think they’re only our overseas aid to avoid hurting our feelings. Sweet!

    • 133

      this won’t go anywhere.

    • 138
      Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

      That did actually make me hoot with laughter audibly.

      You pay money to some african military guy, and he gives you a piece of paper.

    • 167
      I'll have some of that says:

      The so called cerificate is a fake. The signatories are using the US dating system (month, date, year) rather than the day, month, year system prevalent in Kenya at the time.

      But I can knock up a proper one if you like.

  36. 106
    Odds Bodkins says:

    Labour are all the bloody same at the end of the day: tax, tax, tax.

  37. 109
    Odds Bodkins says:

    #81 Smilie

    You’re absolutely right. At least with the Dave Sparts and Wolfie Smiths you know where you stand.

  38. 119
    Michael says:

    The guy is obviously not going to tread water until the top job is vacant.

  39. 141
    geagleesq says:

    Senor Guido

    Go on, confess – you kNow you want to

    Don’t you also have a Soft Spot for that puir wee mannie, Mr Draper who (with the Intellectually perceptive Sion) has provided so much Enjoyment & Entertainment for yourself & your Many Visitors and who is (apparently) providing so much Lucrative Economic Enrichment for so many Libel Lawyers

    Heaven forfend that anyone should suggest that these Lawyers are economically unProductive

    Yr obedient servant etc

    G E

  40. 142
    Disco Biscuit says:

    10 is hilarious

  41. 144
    Hard-Lazing Voter says:

    Cruddas is the far-left primo moron of the Liarbore Party, the beating red heart. He’s the Michael Foot for the 21st Century. If he and his Compass friends ever secure power in the current vacuum, the Tories can look forward to at least two terms of government.

    • 146
      Hard-Lazing Voter says:

      Also, Green New Deal is the biggest load of horseshit I’ve ever heard. It’s bolshevism by another name. Fuck that

      I laughed hard at number 4.

  42. 149
    Sarge says:

    The problem they have is that any of them can spout about policy/initiative/crackdown/fightback. However none of them have a clue how to implement a policy and even less idea of what the outcome will be – because it has to be announced today to grab a headline and that is all that matters.

    The cost (sorry investment) is rarely managed -because they do not know how to do it and it’s not their money.Thye have no concept of holding responsibility for spending our cash.

    Witness the car scrappage scheme where we are largely subsidising manufacturing in other countries. This was obvious from the start but the headline was all that mattered.

    Witness the mobile phone usage whilst driving ban – needs a huge effort to enforce for which manpower is not available.

    Politicians should not be allowed to run countries

  43. 151
    Anonymous says:

    Bloody hell.

    The reporter from the Financial times did not like a speech from John Cruddas, shock horror.

    Hard-Lazing Voter:

    A little worried the voters might actually like policies like this I see.

    In case you hadn’t noticed, the current direction of the government is heading the county to at least two terms of the tories. On the day it happens, I will worry.

  44. 162
    Raving Loon says:

    Biggest pile of bollocks ever, usual student SWP nonsense. You can have pure unadulterated capitalism and like it!

  45. 163
    Charles Flaccidwidger says:

    Usual tired socialist class envy bollocks from a clueless wanker.

  46. 168
    Geordie Boy says:

    We need extremism. We are ruled by elites who pay lip-service to liberal-democratic values whilst turning the state into a kleptocracy which they plunder at will to enrich themselves,their families and their friends.Look at the Blairs. Look at the Kinnocks.The Tories are no better. We need to kick the whole fucking applecart over and start again.

  47. 171

    Some of his ideas seem good. Those that he stole from other parties.

  48. 172
    Rantonator says:

    What a load of tosh

  49. 173
    bandersnatch says:

    I’ve just read Anonymous at 62′s list of what Cruddas voted for and against and yep… What Guido said… maybe the cupboard IS bare.

  50. 174
    adam says:

    1 – establishment of a High Pay Commission – Yawn, symbolism of no consequence.

    if only Guido



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