+++ Rose Friedman Dies +++
She died yesterday according to the annoucement on the Milton and Rose D. Friedman Foundation website.
Our central theme in public advocacy has been the promotion of human freedom….it underlies our opposition to rent control and general wage and price controls, our support for educational choice, privatizing radio and television channels, an all-volunteer army, limitation of government spending, legalization of drugs, privatizing Social Security, free trade, and the deregulation of industry and private life to the fullest extent possible.
So did Robert Novak. He of the US leaking scandal fame.
Damn my ignorance on this matter but I guess she is a great loss to our cause.
you got that right, grasshopper, their likes will never be seen again. CMD and the snottie one will clink glasses tonight over this one and laugh merrily.
do not steal my name thief.
and I fail to understand how freedom for the individual will be achieved if people pay so much rent they have no money left for anything else. trust landlords?
don’t be silly.
private social payments, don’t be silly. private companies will wish to profit from the unemployed even more than corrupt governments who have to atleast pretend they care.
the theories of free trade and less regulation have been totally debunked by the banking crisis.
this is all hokum and very 20th century stuff.
throwing in legalisation of drugs to get the potheads onside just does not cut it I am afraid.
in her attempt to promote freedom she was actually encouraging financial fascism.
I am sure she meant well but she was completely misguided.
Why don’t you save your energy for Labour list or some such.
You have no influence here. People either laugh at you or find you mildly irritating.
“the theories of free trade and less regulation have been totally debunked by the banking crisis.”
No, not really.
anonospaz,
as you do not have the intelligence to think up a name I dismiss your comments out of hand.
hurf,
you have offered no arguments to prove your point.
you dullard.
that will be all, you may go now cretins.
but people think nothing of you, you are a nobody.
see the difference?
I’m not sure which one I prefer, they are both good insults.
Talking of free trade and the banking crisis I rather like Toby Baxendale’s article on the Cobden Centre website outlining ‘honest money’ principles and 100% depositor cover in banking, link:
http://www.cobdencentre.org/2009/08/a-day-of-reckoning/
I like the way I learn things on here. I never knew about Rose Friedman until now.
May she Rest in Peace.
Pleasing to see you are back to sound common sense Nell and away from all this leftist garbage.
I should know more about Milton Freidman.
Would anyone be kind enough to recommend one of hs books, please?
Read “Free to Choose, a Personal Statement” by Milton and Rose Friedman.
Before you buy any books, it would be a good thing to start watching this.
http://www.ideachannel.tv/
You can also go to youtube.com and see the great man ( ok I am biased ) speaking.
Thanks AK, and everyone else for their tips and suggestions.
If you look closely at the plates you can see they are eating baby brains and salad.
joooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooz
And they blew up the twin towers. Elvis told me when he stepped out of a flyer saucer which had kidnapped him from Graceland.
pull that building, sorry, joke.
Ever wondered why the police arrested four Israelis jumping up and down celebrating as the planes hit?
Ever wondered why they were released, and it was all hushed up? You can still find one or two newspaper articles about it.
Then there’s the problem of the building’s collapsing like controlled demolitions, and the recent insurance policies taken out on the buildings. WT7 collapsed even though no plane hit it, again, just like a demolition.
Most of the towers were reduced to rubble, no wreckage larger than a phone keypad, yet all 19 passports of the hijackers, who were not on the passenger manifests with the names on those passports, were found intact at the bottom.
Where did the engines from the Pentagon plane go? The investigators were able to identify people in the wreckage, yet apparently jet fuel caused a fire so intensive it melted 12 foot steel and titanium engines.
However – Elvis is dead
Who gives a shit?
“Who gives a shit?”
Nobody in the UK that’s for sure – get back to Jeremy Kyle, the adverts have finished.
Twat.
looks like Kosher or perhaps Halal Sausages
It’s pork, but don’t worry, the pig was killed by the halal method.
salad, yuk!
Eating meat is much less cruel than eating salad. I mean the meat is already dead – the salad is being eaten alive.
RIP
It’s a sad fact of life that you start dying the moment you’re born and as you’ve read this you are now a little closer to death.
Still, only 287 days maximum to the next General Election.
http://widgets.clearspring.com/o/4a32d532f8610fed/4a45b11625b0a519/4a33a279df04667d/e622761b
Still got fingers crossed for one in the Autumn though!
Toynbee’s toilet protocol needs cleaning up, I don’t know what she eats but it makes you squint
Toynbee is one of those aristocratic socialists who lives in a socialist eutopia where no one builds or makes anything but everyone works in non-jobs for the State doing absolutely nothing their entire life so that Chardonnay-swigging tossers like her can fly off to their second and third homes in Tuscanny in between writing utter codswallop to the tossers who read the Guardian about the environmental impact of flying.
I’m not
A Masterpiece in observation and prose Norwegian Troll, a true masterpiece.
I’m not worthy!
Spook
ps – I often refer to this ‘class’ as ‘metopians’ as there’s generally nothing ‘other’ about them.
And while we’re at it, or I was last night, another labour cheerleader tosser at the Guardian Jackie Ashley is married to yet another labour cheerleader at the BBC Andrew Marr, the world is full absolutely full overflowing with tossers.
and where do the tossers at the BBC advertise BBC jobs? in the Guardian tossing newspaper.
Socialism begats nepotism
And she lives off her old man.
I thought Andrew Marr was involved with someone called Alice Miles? No?
I like the sound of all that.
I am the biggest troll
That will look nice next to your biggest hoon award dear.
I had her. She was crap.
If she had died in a NHS hospital she would have got a free autopsy.
“If she had died in a NHS hospital she would have got a free autopsy.”
At that age she might even have been turned around and discharged (alone and without notification) without her death actually being observed…certainly she would have been left on a trolley for 7 hours in casualty whilst all the younger and relatively ‘able bodied’ had been seen to and despatched wherever…and her having paid more tax and national insurance in 10 years than many of the other “patients” will pay in their lifetime for various reasons.
I speak from personal experience and with great sadness…
NHS wards for the elderly have one thing in common with hospitals in the poorest African countries. It is left to relatives to endure that the patients are fed. Sometimes this means physically feeding the patient who is too slow/frail/forgetful/demoralised to feed herself. Other times it means bringing in palatable food. Meanwhile you are trying to get a nurse to attend to the patient in the next bed who has been calling for a bedpan for 15 minutes or so.
A good game to play in NHS wards is ‘spot the handwash’. Visitors – 1 point; doctors – 5 points; nurses – 20 points.
An NHS hospital doctor of my acquaintance won’t refer to ‘Care of the Elderly’. He insists that it should just be called ‘The Elderly’.
Oh Sukyspook how could you!!?
Didn’t you hear Andy’we have abolished waiting lists in the NHS’ say just the other day that no-one now waits in A&E for more than four hours!!?
Of course he hasn’t been in our A&E because I spent eight hours in there not so long ago with a poorly relative, waiting for treatment.
you should have walked out to express your rage at this communist construct. why accept free treatment when it only encourages them ? abolish the NHS now before it turns us all into communists and terrrorists.
Our local hospital was recently exposed for having a particularly inventive way of keeping to the 4 hour limit at A&E. They just make patients in ambulances wait outside until they can be seen within the time limit. This has the effect of keeping ambulances tied up and unavailable for hours, obstructing the entrance to A&E and blocking the hospital roads.
Once they miss the 4 hours there’s no incentive to look at you at all, you’re lucky you aren’t still there…
It is good of Sarah Palin to take time out to support Nell with such sound views. Well done Sarah, keep up the good work. Wish you were British!
If she were British, do you seriously think that Julie Kirkbride would allow David Cameron to let her join the Conservative Party?
Well said, Nell and Sarah.
Free mercy killing on the NHS, the right to die it’s called MRSA.
Our central theme in public advocacy has been the promotion of human freedom….it underlies our opposition to rent control and general wage and price controls, our support for … bankers in their efforts to trash the world economy, the rich obtaining pay rises far in excess of their employees, environmental degradration, because greed is good and the market perfect…
RIP indeed. Interesting to invert the italicized statement you quote, and imagine it being mouthed (as it were by Lord Mandelson, the current de facto PM:
Our central theme in public advocacy has been the reduction of human freedom….it underlies our advocacy of rent control and general wage and price controls, our support for limiting educational choice, nationalising radio and television channels, an involuntary army, maximisation of government spending, stigmatisation of drugs, state-only Social Security, trade restrictions, and the regulation of industry and private life to the fullest extent possible.
Toynbee “Conservative mockery of courses in cake decorating, flower arranging or golf course management defies the evidence that shows these lead to more jobs: communication skills are highly valued, so media studies graduates earn more than many taking “serious” subjects.”
Toynbee you must be fucking thick, the reason that the country is in such deep shit is the very fact that “communication skils” are currently valued more than “serious” subjects. A quick google about cake decorating, flower arranging and gold courses will quickly establish they are fucked becuase they all rely on income from people with serious jobs
The Toynbee’s of this world are a dying breed, the internet will see to that as you no longer have control over the media
plus i would get your teeth sorted out
Just like Gordon at a private dentist.
It’s perfectly true that graduates in media studies tend to get jobs more readily than those in many subjects, but ain’t that part of our problem?
The point is not that courses in flower arranging are useless, it is that they shouldn’t be degree courses and shouldn’t involve all the time and expense of going away to uni for three years. We should promote and honour vocational courses rather than devaluing the honours degree.
I’m actually about to start my own business manufacturing wooden flowers and plants that can then actually be used as models at degree level flower arranging courses at my local university. I want to promote recycling as a virtue and wooden delphiniums as a lifestyle choice.
Toynbee like all seriously stupid socialists, imagine that creating non jobs, like green jobs for instance, is in someway entirely disconnected and viable, without real productive jobs elsewhere in the economy.
Without real wealth creation, not artificial wealth creation as in the green economy or the immense non job public sector, nothing is achievable.
Adding layers of cost or debt, eventually destroy the very thing that creates wealth, free trade.
That of course is the long term objective of the anti capitalist, corporatist /statist, greenazis and has been since day one.
anyone who isn’t a rabid neo-conservative or libertarian is a socialist
anyone who thinks scientists might have a point about global warming is a green hippy nazi
anyone who dares criticise corporations or banks or deregulation or corporate welfare and subsidies is an anti-capitalist hippy opposed to all wealth creation
these are in no way the gross oversimplifications and misrepresentations of the world parroted by idealogues
Yes, and…..?
Anyone who isn’t one of us is one of them.
You are either with us or you are against us
“anyone who isn`t a rabid neo-conservative or libertarian is a socialist”
A farcical analysis that displays your narrow minded ignorance and prejudice, rather than any insightful, rational point.
“anyone who thinks scientists might have a point about global warming is a green hippy nazi”
No, they are, just as you have demonstrated, woefully ignorant and have no scientific knowledge at all. The idea that CO2 generates global warming is absurd. It never has in the past and there is no evidence that it will now or in the future.
“anyone who dares criticise corporations or banks or deregulation or corporate welfare and subsidies is an anti-capitalist hippy opposed to all wealth creation”
Once again your ignorance is embarrassing, for you. Corporatism like Cronyism is NOT Capitalism.
Try reading it up some time, while you are at it look closely at the system we are living under right now and have been for many years and ask yourself this one simple question. Is the UK a Corporate or Crony state?
thanks for proving my points in such an amusing and timely manner
where else can you rely on such caricatures turning up up doing precisely as expected without the slightest hint of self awareness or irony ?
An engineer with no communication skills is a lesser engineer, someone with excellent communication skills but no engineering training or experience is no engineer at all.
You can apply the same simple truth to any walk of life.
Someone with communication skills but no other skills or experience will not be contributing much to society. Toynbee is an excellent example.
Well said Eng.
She’s what’s known in real life as a “bullshitter”. We’ve all worked with them.
you are one phil FFS!
no cash donations; increases the money supply. send pizzas
Dies unpunished for the damage done. Still I guess Maggie will be going soon. I have a bottle put aside for that.
Just one bottle Les?
I will put aside my Magnum for Gordon Brown.
Shouldn’t really wish death on anyone. My champagne is on ice for election night though, and maybe a second bottle too…
oh, so that is what you tramps call pear cider these days: tramps’ champagne!
but if your alcoholism helps you withdraw from crack use I suppose it is better than you sucking on your crackpipe innit.
I am a bit concerned about you taking the ‘ice’ though steve the tramp.
isn’t that what they call metamphetamine?
you just go from bad to worse steve you useless bloody hobo.
there is no helping some people, some people are just doomed to fail.
like you are steve. and as you are a thatcherite don’t expect any help from society.
you are on your own.
What the fuck has this guy Steve done to upset you so much, tat?
you misunderstand.
I am trying to help steve the tramp to stop smoking crack cocaine.
it is an arduous task but I will keep hassling him until he complies.
and then he will thank me.
there, you are now up to speed with what is going on.
without me steve would be just another dead tramp found in a cardboard box.
I am helping the hobo to choose life. whether he wants to or not.
I will put a side my Magnum .44…
“I know what you’re thinking: ‘Did he fire six shots or only five?”
Harry – you’d better reload, McDoom deserves at least 7 shots.
May you choke on it.
go back to bed you miserable bastard.
thankyou.
“Just like Gordon at a private dentist.”
Matthew 23 was written for just such times:
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.”
Matthew 23:14
Matthew? Not Gordon’s dad, then?
Ta. Which is why I currently pack a Bible for here for times like these….
And the prophet was revealed to me in a angelic burst of golden light which emanated from his fundament.
And Lo a voice was sounded from his rear end and that voice did spake the words of truth as revealed to him in a holy vision
“We’re gonna git that evildoer saddam mr prime minister timmy beer and then we’re gonna bomb his ass to hell. God told me to do it. so are you fir us or agin us ?”
And so I walked the path of glory and embraced the prophet Dubyas words and mission to my heart, though many doubted me and named me as unto the beast that is called the poodle that walks the earth on all fours.
The gospell according to Tony “I’m a pretty straight kind of guy” Blair
The Book of Dubya – Blair 12:2
Seems Milton’s monetarism died recently as well with QE.
Holy shit, the queen is dead? Does King Harald V of Norway know or does he have to read it on a blog.
O/T sorry. But the Generals this morning are calling for Bob’aintbustinagut’ to be replaced.
He’s been nicknamed ‘bungling bob’ and the General’s say that as well as not providing our troops with the necessary equipment and unnecessarily risking their lives he is undermining morale.
At the very least, they say, they want him stopped from appearing or speaking in public.
Oh Dear! looks as if gordon might have to try and force himself to take a decision. Maybe mandy will do it for him.
I wonder what Rose Friedman would have made of this shambles of a government? Not a great deal I suspect.
We salute the gallant, freedom-fighting people of Afghanistan.
Brown doesn’t want a competent person in the job, he wants someone who will fuck up and take the heat off himself.
And he couldn’t have a better person for it – could he? Roll on June 2010 !!
Am I the only one having a flashback and thinking this is all remarkably similar to what happened to that King of bumbling incompetence Geog Hoon ?
Geoff of course. Damn you fumbling typey fingers
How did ‘elicopter Bob whatever his name, a shop steward at Jaguar, another failed British company now owned by Tata motors of India, become Minister in charge of the armed forces that once presided over the largest empire including India where sun never set.
‘elicopter Bob in theatre
I read somewhere the other day that at the time of the British Empire when we’d turned much of the globe red – we had a lot fewer cabinet ministers and a much smaller government than we have now.
Chopper for Ainsworth…
Gen Sir Dannatt on the front page of the DT today syaing that more resources are needed – anyone want to bet that he will stand against Ainsworthless in the election?
‘Ello. Private Bob here. Just dropping by to let you all know I’m still very busy with my angle grinder and oxy-acetylene torch doing my ‘elicopter uparmouring work.
ironically today is Afghanistan Independence Day
Bo**ocks
Everbody who does not honour the Friedmans is in love with slavery and oppression.
sounds fucking tyrannical to me mate.
Nonsense, I know perfectly well what is needed, it is a visionary leader of courage, who will lead his people to a more just and fair society.
This country, indeed the entire world, needs someone who shows courage in the face of adversity, principles in the face of corruption and honesty in this world of deciet.
In these difficult times, which started in America, the people of our nations and regions, do not need the distractions of such worthless ideals such as democracy or freedom, whatever they mean, they need a great leader who can be a father to his people and those from around the world who wish to make Britain their home.
Britain needs more of my ideas and I selflessly, indeed humbly, will stay the long course and buy this nation out of depression, by borrowing and spending ever greater sums of worthless money I can find, to implement the fascist utopia I know every citizen is crying out for.
My message is simple, you can rely on me.
seriously Gordon, we can’t rely on you for anything.
nobody reads your books
nobody listens to anything you have to say
your actions defy human comprehension
i’m afraid you have to go – BANG!
next on radio 4, ‘Thought for the Day’
Rubbish
Waad is simply being totalitarian in his monolithic simplistic viewpoint and there’s nothing wrong with that
Wanker
shiteater
Israelis were they?
If this is her philosophy, thank fuck she’s dead.
I bet she was a stunner in her hay day. Is the guy the ventroloquist or is he trying to strangle her?
That’d be heyday you mean oi reckon. Hay day was a day we had the ‘orses, cart and hay rakes in the top field.
Excuse my Engerlish. I was thinking of romping in the hay for the day with the fine looking woman but why is the rest of the restaurant empty. They must have been on the early evening menu the tight buggers.
Milton Friedman lived in a rent controlled apartment for years…….
So what, I lived in rat infested apartment for years with nine others until they released me from hospital.
This is a really interesting essay written in 1972
http://www.bopsecrets.org/PS/hippies.htm
He rejects both the work and the leisure of his parents, but only to return to both in his own way. He works in “meaningful” jobs, for “hip companies” in which the employees constitute a “family,” and does subsistence farming and temporary work. Imagining himself a primitive craftsman, he develops this role, idealizing the Craft. The ideology he attaches to his pseudoprimitive (or pseudofeudal) occupation dissimulates its petit-bourgeois character. His interests, such as organic food, spawn thriving businesses. But the owners don’t think of themselves as ordinary businessmen because they “believe in their product.” It’s good vibes all the way to the bank.
98 years old – wouldn’t have seen 80 in the UK. She’d have been overfed morphine and starved of fluids.
Mind you, she would have kept the nurses amused – one of their favourite games is to place a cup of tea ‘just out of reach’.
How to build slums. Introduce rent controls.
Friedman wanted, amongst much else, to get rid of even legally enforceable professional standards. In other words, if your doctor’s treatment kills or disables you, you or your bereaved can sue him for damages, but he can’t be stopped from practising his incompetence on others. So Friedman was a loony, but like so many loonies he became a guru. Now Guido invites us to celebrate the life of a loony’s wife.
Oh well we’ll just PRINT MORE FUCKING MONEY and before you know it we’ll be sipping champagne on that V-shaped curve pointing to FIFTY PER CENT GROWTH, all thanks to NULAB and G. PILLOCK BROWN’s sensible economic measures
NEW LABOUR NEW LABOUR
IT MAKES MY JOHNSON HARD OH YEAH
The thing about ‘free market’ theories is this:
If you are a wealthy person, then you might think they are wonderful.
However, if by misfortune, you should lose your wealth and end up homeless, then you might not be quite so fond of free market theories.
Did Brown say it was all misfortune ? Did the City ?
Do you believe either of them still ?
I was speaking of personal misfortune. Uninsured losses, etc.
Milton Friedman and Pinochet hanging from the same gallows. What a sight that would have been.
Provided they were join by Stalin and Mao Tse Tung
A Kike & a Spic – yeah!
First lesson learnt on the first day of my long adventure in engineering , ‘Remember son ‘Bullshit baffles Brains” . As true today as it was then.
Second lesson learnt in the afternoon from a colleague who knew it all, ‘Just to think, this morning I couldn’t spell Engineer, now I are one’
‘Bullshitting Morons’ still getting away with it all over the world but especially in Merrie Olde Anglande, where they have their own Newspaper and Broadcasting Corporation
Right! But nobody wants to do anything about it. Cameron is gripped by a fear of conservatism.