Dave Dines With Deripaska’s Spinner
Will caveat this story with a warning that no one concerned has confirmed (or denied) the veracity of the story. Did try to confirm it with Cameron’s spokesgirl, but she is probably too busy with Twatgate…
According to an impeccable source, Roland Rudd had David Cameron over to his Holland Park mansion for dinner at the beginning of the month. Rudd is the spinmeister for Oleg Deripaska, Nat Rothschild and a few nationalised and bailed out banks, including if Guido’s memory serves him right, Lloyds and RBS. (Rudd is also a good mate of Robert Peston, who coincidentally had the inside track on those same banks during the banking crisis).
Didn’t the Tories claim recently they were telling lobbyists to “back off”? Odd therefore that the party leader is dining with Rudd. Guido hopes he supped with a long spoon. Rudd represents a number of corporate interests critically exposed to government regulation – BSkyB, BAA, and telecoms companies like Cable & Wireless and Vodafone. No doubt his clients at the bailed out banks are critically keen to protect their interests and bonuses as well.
We seem to be on the path to transparency in politics – the incoming Tory administration is committed to opening up the workings of both parliament and government to sunlight. Fine words and promises…
What about the shady world of political lobbying? People like Roland Rudd, Matthew Freud and Alan Parker are not in favour of an open democracy. When they lubricate corporate deals with politicians behind closed doors, or nowadays more likely on private beaches, on behalf of their clients you can be sure that the interests of the taxpayers and voters are not on their minds. Osborne has learnt his lesson with Yachtgate, Cameron should likewise distance himself from these corporate schmoozers.
Guido’s five year Porkbusters campaign against troughing by MPs is now winding down. Guido’s new campaign over the coming years will be to highlight the fat cats of spin and their hidden hand in politics, in particular how they corrupt and seduce politicians. Ironically Cameron is an ex-corporate spinmeister himself. Guido thinks it extremely unhealthy for democracy that the next Prime Minister is hitching freebie lifts on Matthew Freud’s jet to Santorini, or taking a beach holiday in South Africa with Brunswick boss Alan Parker. It is human nature to be helpful to people who have been generous hosts towards you. That politeness is ruthlessly exploited by the likes of these spinmeisters: there is no such thing as a free ride on a jet…
UPDATE : Cameron’s office have got in touch to say it was more like a year ago rather than a month ago that he last dined with Roland Rudd.
Isn’t it spelt Deripaska?
Deripesky!
I am a transvestite, visit my blog.
Iain Dale here! Just two things Guido!
1. I’m gay! Didn’t know that?! Well, it’s true! Hehehehe! I don’t tell anyone about because I’m quite a private person! I don’t like lauding it on TV every night doing the newspapers or being a rent-a-quote at various local Tory gatherings or on regional radio stations! But there you go! I’m gay! Just to spell it out for you: I am a homosexual and I like to indulge in homosexual tomfoolery!
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2. Don’t you ever speak ill of DC or I’ll f*cking kill you!
Lots of love,
Iaaiinnn
F*ck you.
Iain, I would never have fooking guessed…thank you for sharing.
What about your circle of friends Iain are any of THEM in your circle as understatedly gay in the same way you are?
Do we KNOW any of them – are some of them AC/DC ?
WELL I NEVER !!
________ska is feminine old boy
It is…
They wont get a fucking penny off me ! The troughing scum bags
Are you a shite as well – I come from a long line of shites – Bullingdon Club shites mainly, don’t you know.
This comment was a reply to some one who said RE: Rudd “it wouldn’t matter if his name was MR Shite so long as he is rich !” But for some reason that comment has now been removed ???????
I believe that was me – gu1d0 jacks off at deleting my posts.
As opposed to our dear leader who has presided over the biggest financial transfer from the tax payer to the already disgustingly rich. In fact our grandchildren will have to pay for this transfer of wealth, and also all this mortgaging in the name of PFI.
Fuck off p€d0 h0r
Derriere, more like!
All this crap just shows that all the people we hate, and you hate, have got Blackberrys as well, and they are in Tuscany near a broadband node. That’s why you have so many comments, when you are nowhere.
It just shows the extreme permeability of civilisation by the Enemy Class, and why it must be stopped. The permeability by them, I mean, not the liberalism of freedom.
A libertarian government, whn elected, will have to pass a Law (a tautology, I admit) that PPE graduates from any “universities”, and also people associated with the MSM in any way, even as production houses staff, will have to undergo “police checks”, and, among other impositions which will be chosen for their specific uncomfortability, will be prohibited from owning Blackberrys, or “Apples” (whether the vegetable or the electronic kind) or Credit Cards”, or “Broadbad”.
We will have to find out who all these people are before we mallet the Hard Disks of the State, in the street, outside the (ex) departments which we will have just closed down, having got receipts for all of them (the disks and servers.)
It’s not the “taking part” – it’s the “winning” that matters.
“A libertarian Government, when elected”.
Norwich North byelection result.
Howling Laud (Loony) 144 (0.42%)
Anne Fryatt (NOTA) 59 (0.17%)
Thomas Burridge (Libertarian) 36 (0.10%)
Sadly the Libertarian Party is taking this inevitable path to glory and power by coming a couple of places behind the official Loony candidate.
But never mind! Onwards and sideways!!
Do we seriously think that on the morning after the general election, the Conservative Party will wake up and decide that privilege and justice is meant for all? This is the party which New Labour replaced because of its sleaze and many of those around then are still hovering in the background today. Let’s not forget that Tory MPs dug deep into the cesspit of corruption that is MP expenses. Would the Conservative leader have been so brutal in his response to selected MPs actions, had the media not been on the case? He may make a better PM than he does a spin doctor, but David Cameron and his pals at times still give the impression that public service is not for them an honour, but a right. Roland Rudd, Matthew Freud and their kind will continue to issue invitations and David and his circle will eagerly accept. These people are their friends and they have more in common with them than they ever will with White Van Man.
Hello again! I’ve just fetched Charlie from his father’s, it’s usually only at weekends but as it is the school holidays and so on. Of course She Whom We Do Not Name came outside to gloat I suppose wearing a top that left nothing much to the imagination and Charlie made some coarse remark about ‘the top shelf’, he gets it from his father really.
Anyway SWWDNN had given Charlie a book, I didn’t know she could read, she must have to hold to book up high to see over them, by some old fogey called Professor Eric Frogspawn or something, anyway Charlie seemed to like it and it even kept him from playing with his computer. This book by this Snobsyawn person it’s called Globalisation, Democracy and Terrorism which doesn’t sound very interesting really but Charlie has packed away his books by Zen and his orange Meditation Robe and he’s going on about the death of capitalism and the spectatorship of the proletariat and saying that the sacrifice of 20 million lives was all worth it. Really I don’t know what to say but I thought I should warn all you kind people that you will be getting a lot of quotes from this Professor Blogswarm but please don’t be too rude as Charlie is really quite sensitive and he means well whatever the social workers say even if he won’t visit his Nana. Anyway must fly have a good holiday.
Pam Hardwidge
Have you upped his Ritolin, Mrs H?
The point of maximum pessimism for Labour has passed, and so has the point of maximum optimism for the Tories. Cameron has yet to be properly scrutinised and the fight between the Thatcherite zealots and more frightened backbenchers has not yet been fully flushed out into the open. As Labour gain momentum and begin to resonate more with the electorate this will translate into positive gains and the Tories will look increasingly like a busted flush.
Be still, grasshopper.
Charles, the latest poll (ComRes) suggests otherwise, although Labour did click up one point, hopefully from the unmentionables.
CON 42 (+4) LAB 24 (+1) LD 18 (-4)
Put those figures into a general election and Cameron gets a bigger majority than Bliar had in ’97!
I won’t vote for the blighter. Shalln’t you know; until he undertakes verbatim and in steed the UKIP policies.
Charles, Charles, Charles
The point of maximum pessimism for Labour has passed – really
Poor people are paying more of their hard earned income to your troughing paymasters than they were under the Tories
and you reckon they will vote you in again.
dream on sunshine
Is that why the latest poll puts newlabour and McLoony EIGHTEEN POINTS behind the Tories then?
Perhaps thats why newlabour lost the Norwich bye election then eh? The way you tell it always differs from actual reality, its called ego/pride driven spin!
No wonder you fucking people are less popular than a bad case of genital warts, still at least McBust can claim a world lead in swine flu and industrial decline!
…and as Gordon stripped off his corset to reveal his manly pot belly, Charlsetta’s bosom began to heave and she came over all funny like.
Who is Mr All Funny Like?
Mr. Hardwidget.
Help draft the Great Repeal Bill – get rid of most of Labour legislation which is strangling Britain – where would you suggest we start?
http://www.talkcarswell.com/show.aspx?id=893
Mrs Hardwidge
Young Charlie has been firing his home made SCUDs again and one landed in the greenhouse. Please can you keep him under control.
I realise he is very proud of his missiles but they are very short ranged, wildly inaccurate, noisy, smelly, let out a thick smokescreen and after they explode, make no noticeable difference to anything. I don’t mind myself but some people find them very irritating. Much like him.
Please try and restrain him as best you can,
Yours,
Wylie_E_Coyote
I do apologise Mr Coyote (or is it Mr Quango, I get confused) and let me say that I have watched all your films and enjoyed them although I do think some of your schemes are too elaborate really. Anyway I know you recover very quickly from being blown up so Charlie’s SCUDs won’t do any serious harm and I feel it gets him out of the house and away from his computer but I am sorry about your cucumber. Perhaps it will grow back they do sometimes I gave Charlie his Ritalin in his food but then I found out he had already taken it himself which is one for the diary quite frankly so I’m afraid he will be a bit ‘hyper’ today.
Oddly he has the same problem with his grasshopper it just won’t keep still.
Pam Hardwidge
Mrs H, you are an inspiration to us all. That said, I note Charlie is getting out of hand again down the lower reaches of the comments section. Any chance you could dose him up with something a bit stronger?
Dear Mrs Hardwidge
Young Charlie has been firing off home made press releases on the internet again. Please can you keep him under control.
I realise he is very proud of his messages but they are very short sighted, wildly inaccurate, noisy, smelly, hide behind a thick smokescreen and after they are read, make no noticeable difference to anything. I don’t mind myself but some people find them very irritating. Much like him.
Please try and restrain him as best you can,
Yours,
Wylie_E_Coyote
Mrs Hardwidge, have you tried a whole food diet? It sometimes works in difficult cases like your Charles. I wouldn’t worry about his Zen, I suspect he is no more knowledgeable about it than he was about the Tao. Read him a chapter of “The Road to Serfdom” (Hayek) every night to calm him down and show him rational thinking.
Dear mrs Hardwidge (Pamela)
I can see charlie is now repeating himself , and the SCUDs episode only goes to prove , that holiday in in Shareml Sheik didnt help him to move on from the trauma of David Millibands , “the earth would be better with red tinge” speech.
You must keep him away from the Labour meetings and other bad influences , and down grade the meccano kit from “international ruthless dictator kit” to a “no4″ .
We try and steer him right when he comes on here to give us his views , but he just keeps messing himself , in some sort of weird mental feedback loop , he posts he then reads what he posts then he messes himself . This synthetic emotional overload both in his brain and in his trouser , must be hard work for Pamela , but the Boy must learn some indpendence , begin the journey to becomming a man , he must come off the teat .
Charlie’s 13 then is he?
I might have known. Socialism gets them about then, as a disease, if it’s going to.
If he survives the attack, he might even become a liberal (which is to say, a libertarian. The word has been stolen and lynched by our Enemy Class.)
Get all the facts you need to know, about the Enemy Class, our current rulers and helot-masturbatorists, at
http://www.seangabb.co.uk
or at
http://libertarianalliance.wordpress.com
where we say all the stuff that Sean can’t even bribg himself to say!
I like to advertise the Libertarian Alliance site on Guido, for it brings in the GramscoFabiaNazi voyeurs, and terrifies the Enemy Class who also read him.
It makes us feel important, an improbable result for such a tiny and nugatory organisation.
And I hope he does not mind:-
http://libertarianalliance.wordpress.com
If so, he can delete me: we know the rules, which are made by him, from time to time, absolutely as it’s his blog.
Norwich North byelection result.
Howling Laud (Loony) 144 (0.42%)
Anne Fryatt (NOTA) 59 (0.17%)
Thomas Burridge (Libertarian) 36 (0.10%)
I think you need to do a bit more than one link. Perhaps you should ask the Loony candidate how he manages to be so popular compared to Libertarians?
His Boss Hogg outfit must have been worth a hundred votes on comedic value alone.
I’ve seen a lot of lies and negativity from the usual quarters but where are the concrete plans and enthusiasm from those who would be king? What job opportunities do they want to create versus cost cutting? What sort of society do they want to build versus self-interest? I see the Prime Minister developing solutions but why are the opposition trying to talk everyone back into a recession?
Be still, grasshopper.
Accusing those who point out the truth of false optimism of being negative is a classic socialist ploy. Socialism depends on mass delusion that everything done is for the good, no matter how bad, and you are a prime example.
What is wrong with negativity anyway? If some were negative towards Hitler’s ideas was that wrong?
You make the fundamental mistake of all socialists in presuming both the correctness and moral superiority of your ideology. There is hubris instead of humility, arrogance instead of compassion, delusion instead of realism, dogma instead of pragmatism.
Your promotion of Gordon Brown is laughable. He is the principle architect of the problems he is pretending to solve. He is the man who, having burnt down his own house, blames it on the previous tenants, then points his finger at the neighbours and accuses them of painting their front door the wrong colour. He is a charlatan and a liar. I write that not in anger but in sadness. He is undoubtedly the worst prime minister of the worst government in the history of Britain and you support him here not because you really believe in him but because of your tribal loyalty to an ideology which is no longer relevant and no longer able to offer proper government. That is government on behalf of the people and with the peoples consent. Gordon Brown does not govern on behalf of the people or with their consent, he governs for himself and his party. Each and every action of that man is designed to preserve and extend his own power and the majority of people can see it.
You cannot bring yourself to accept this truth, which is why you waste your precious hours posting your madness here. Insisting on the false being true when each and every one of the people reading know the truth, understands the madness and incompetence that is New Labour, personified by you. It gratifies you to goad and bait the “Tory boys” in your childish game when real issues and real tragedy, caused by the government you support and praise are all around us, for all to see. When you tap away at your keyboard, mischievous and arrogant, British young men are fighting and dying in a war. I think about the tragedy of that, and the tragedy experienced by the families who have lost sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, fathers and mothers, more than I post rubbish here. Do you?
For all your bogus and sham talk of Zen and grasshopper, there is no sage wisdom in you. No true understanding of the state of man. You are a sham, like the man and the party you promote. You do not understand the Japanese psyche, for if you did you would not post. The man with true wisdom does not bombard others publically to boast the fact. There is no mystical wisdom of the ancients in Gordon Brown. He is just a man with such a lust for power that it has robbed him of integrity and truth, forced him along a twisted path of deceit and manipulation, weaving a web of lies that have now trapped him. Everyone knows this, not just “Tory boys”.
You target this blog because your comrades fear it. Your sustained attack is like everything promoted by your party. A manipulation of the truth. A scheme. A connivance. A cunning plan. A ploy contrived to secure advantage. It has nothing to do with the hopes and fears of ordinary people, struggling to make ends meet, to hold onto jobs, to raise families, to protect their children.
You should feel ashamed man.
You are Sarah Brown and I claim my 5 litre drum of upper lip wax.
Re one of your earlier comments – you neither debate nor discuss, and like a cracked recording you spout but never listen, and you never actually respond to what anybody says to you. Are you trying to bore us into voting Labour? You’re not a very convincing advocate.
BACK into a recession?
Did I miss something?
When did we come out of it?
Get back into the shallow end Charlie Pondlife – you are out of your depth.
HaHaHaHaHaHa!
Here’s an excellent job scheme: Young Unemployed To Be Trained
I Know i lied to feather my own pockets,but the question is what the fuck can you do about it haha
Solutions! Do you mean more taxpayer funded non-jobs designed to harrass the hardworking overtaxed private sector?
Don’t respond to Charles.
He’ll soon get bored and go back to his colouring book and crayons.
While the western world use a knife and fork, the Chinese use chopsticks, of course Sarah Brown marrying an alleged homosexual irons out misconceptions from our consciousness.
When one is faced with people of today a central theme emerges – Sarah Brown marrying Gordon is either adored or despised, it leaves no one undecided. It is intrinsically linked to adolescent inner acclimatisation.
you don’t half come out with some utter tripe Charlie boy!
I’m sure he just cuts and pastes random sentences together in the vain hope of fooling us into thinking he’s an intellectual.
None of his posts ever make any sense!
The recession has only just started to bite you fuckwit,you probably haven’t noticed because either your a politician or a mental patient.
The cost cuting job opportunity the want to create in that of The Prime Minister
…and anothet thing, how can the Tories talk us back into recession when we haven’t left it yet.
If you actually left your No. 10 apologist blog troll bunker and (unlike Gordon Brown) actually talked to real people, things are bad and they ain’t getting better soon.
The grasshopper needs to jump before he gets squished
that is the third time you have repeated the same comment.
you will be modded to fuck if you do it again.
thankyou.
Libertarian manifesto looks like saturday night in Dodge City. Whose standing as Witless Earp?
Because North Norwich is traditionally Labour heartland – they don’t go big on personal liberty as long as the giros turn up each week.
What you should be wondering is why the Tories did so well in safe Labour territory.
The subject of “tractor stats” is a controversial issue. In depth analysis in defence of tractor statistics can be an enriching experience.
Interweaving social trends form a strong net in which we are all trapped. When The Tygers of Pan Tang sang ‘It’s lonely at the top. Everybody’s trying to do you in’ , they must have been referning to trying to anyone trying to defend tractor statistics. Both tyranny and democracy are tried and questioned. Yet tractor stats demonstrate a coherent approach, something so lacking in our culture, that it is not recognised by all.
Primarily “tractor stats” build trust among the people. It grows stonger every day.
10,000 Hardwidge posts per annum and no sign of any useful comment.
Hopefully that will build your trust
Hang on. I messed that up. Let’s try again!
What fresh disaster await Gordon Brown? Lots! And lots!
Peter Oborne’s books tell it like it is, so go get ‘em, Guido, but I’m sure our corrupt politicos will still give you potshot opportunities in the future!
Give the guy a chance Guido – you’re lampooning him for nothing more substantiated than dinner round a mate’s house
Rudd was a confidant of Mandleson. He also promotes the UK dumping sterling for the Euro.
Does that mean “You bend over and it will be our little secret”.?
Rudd will court whoever is or might be in power – that’s what lobbyists do!
It’s way better if you can get both main parties supporting your interests, means that legislation can go through with almost no scrutiny at all
Rudd is an out and out EU fellow traveller, lickspittle and general disgrace.
TANSTAAFL
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, eh Bob?
#235 – Quite so, Australian.
“There aint no such thing as a free lunch.” Should be required reading at Secondary Education level, as should the teaching of “history and moral philosophy” [ST].
Gay mafia.
Would that be Robert Peston, the BBC business editor and spinmeister in chief of the Labour Party, you’re talking about?
Or is it a different Robert Preston?
The same.
Is Peston’s father a Labour Peer? Is that why he gets the scoop on all these things?
His father is a Tory
If he’s a Tory then so was Karl Marx!
Typical BBC Boy! Trying to convince the world that white is black!!
shelling:
Is 5pedo a Labour Pee-er, do you think????
Peston’s head of Common Purpose media committee
Where did you pop up from?
Everyones left.
didn’t Freud’s great-grandfather diddle his daughter.
Freud, Rudd, Deripaska, Rothschild, Peston et al, are they all non-Palestinians?
Are the English thick?
Is this a nasty anti-semitic comment.
What he is saying, in his coy way, is that they are jews. But of course you can be English and a jew at the same time just as you can be Scottish and catholic.
… or presbyterian even.
Speak for yourself (not that you do that very well anyway)
No Surrender!
The bibical Hebrews are God’s chosen and we come a close second, so there, you filthy fornicating fenian.
I second that Doctor Reverand Gobshite Paisley. To bring about Rapture and the Second Coming we must deliver unto the blblical Hebrew ones their righteous real estate in the Holy Land. The fact that I get a Lear Jet and a Swiss bank account for my preachifying is merely an incidental.
God Bless All scotch Presbyterians. The Pope can go fuck himself.
God’s chosen people are a peaceful race.
that rules out the war criminal child murdering zioniststs then dunnit.
The israelis are more like Herod, killing all the newborns and occupying Palestine.
God have mercy on their souls.
But personally I think the israeli satanists are doomed to hell.
their choice innit.
tat, as usual a large grain of truth there. U don’t need to dress it up though.
Did you not see the sign as you came in? [ NO RACISTS ] “You rascist c’unt”. Now, where have i seen that before?
what are you going on about you moron?
the great thick as thieves is anti racist and anti fascist.
the israeliis are getting it in the neck from me because they are fascist occupiers.
you are a very dim zionist troll.
the problem with you zionist trolls and israeli army is that all you want to do is sit around smoking superskunk.
useless potheads.
your propaganda is shit because you are too stoned.
put the joint down arsehole.
It matters not if it is, as it also happens to be true.
It is also true that they are all men – no women you understand. That may also be significant.
Oh, we see where your priorities lie ducky
I couldn’t give a fanny about capillaries
Odd that should ignore the insult to the English, presumably that’s OK, but are sensitive about the bridge players.
Don’t worry, they can look after themselves.
fuck the English!
The English aren’t ashamed of who they are so its impossible to insult them.
Anti-semitism is now synonymous with anti-fraud, anti-sleaze, anti-bribery, anti-embezzlement, anti-greed, anti-tax evasion, anti-nepotism.
that sir is a slur!
Dont leave out Aunty Myrtle !
Dont forget Antidisestablimentarism !
And anti-selling of illegal body parts.
And anti-theft of pension funds.
I am not anti semitic, I am anti fascist.
and the israelis are without any doubt fascist occupiers.
that old anti semite garbage doesn’t wash. indeed jewish people disrespect and dishonour those who were murdered during the holocaust by overusing the phrase to defend and justify the occupation of palestine.
PEACE IN PALESTINE AND ISRAEL 2009 GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!
I’m with you mein tat. The jews cost Nazi Germany the War.
The German war effort was so dissipated by the Wermacht having to haul trainloads of jews around the country that they had no time left to fight.
Now the jews are butchering little Arabs in Bethlehem.
What can be done?
This is a job for George Galloway. get him on the blower … er I mean phone… pronto.
What is it with all the jew hating from the left eh? As the only democracy in the region and where one can be openly gay without having your head cut off and get a bit of welfare if you lose your job I’d have thought Israel would be seen in a better light.
It does lead me to associate ‘socialism’ with National Socialism. Statist bigots generally.
Sorry but I made a couple of critical errors in my last post, here is the correct version of that last one which was all wrong:
What is it with all the peace hating from the jews eh? As the only democracy(he must be having a fucking larf, the knesset is a far right wing fascist elective dictatorship, innit?- Ed) in the region and where one can be openly gay(so the cost of being gay in Isreal is the murder of Palestinian children? that doesn’t sound right-Ed) without having your head cut off and get a bit of welfare if you lose your job I’d have thought Israel would be seen in a better light.
I suppose they would be seen in a better light if they didn’t drop bombs on schools and kill schoolchilren just to stir up trouble. We’re a bunch of warmongering wankers really aren’t we?
It does lead me to associate fascism with the state of Israel. Statist bigots generally.
We better be careful, the greatest threat to the existence of Israel are the fascist zionists who currently hold power in our joke of a democracy.
Guido lecturing Dave on ethics?
He’s ‘avin’ a laugh.
MB
There is not a lot to be gained by challenging the internal logic of many socialist arguments. Instead, it is the initial premises that underlie their arguments that must be challenged.
Hake-san. Pine trees grow tall but they do not reach the sky.
The His Excellency Brown will bring the sky to the trees. Anthing is possible if you vote Labour.
Guido is right to _/shift target to next ahead/_ now.
The Enemy Class self-augments by suborning and corrupting otherwise-clever-and-potentially-harmless people, from “universities”, into “Public Relations”.The natural result is that these useful and clever people get sucked into the meat-grinder of Government spin and Goebbels-type propaganda.
Believe me, I know: When I was young and rich, I foolishly worked for Reginald Watts Associates (anyone remember them?) and O&M PR (are they still going?)
We positively salivated over stuff like “the Westland Account” – that was the end of 1986 and Thatcher-Heseltine-time. £20,000+++ a month it was going to be, so I got hired….as “head of research” – this meant designing “research” that would give the result that the “client” wanted publicised….
It’s time that something was done so that if a department of State wants to say something, then it ought to bloody have the balls to say it by itself in its own words. Clever “graduates” with too much time on their hands, such as are “employed” by “lobbying firms”, ought to go and find out how to make stuff that people want to buy, instead.
Guido should go after those ‘Common Purpose’ Bastards
Yes he should.
I wonder what would happen to me and my children if I typed “Julia Middleton is a GramscoFabiaNazi” ?
But I won’t.
Not yet.
Or I culd get it paintsprayed on Balliol wall, or even the bit of Univ that fronts the High.
Am I right in thinking that all the people interviewed on the Today programme’s item on legal aid were immigrants? Nice to know my taxes are going to a good cause!
I have just about given up on Toady. The programme has become a joke, with its never-ending items about poetry, garden birds, books and other luvvie-orientated padding. Time for a replacement methinks.
FFS! Don’t forget the Global Warming bollox!
If you really want a taste of the buck tooth and bloomers brigade watch BBc Breakfast News any day. I would rather watch paint dry in slow motion than view their banal version of current affairs seen through bottle top pc lenses.
you’re spot on. Unfortunately even as it is it’s about the last reasonably, – if too flaccid – , intelligent prog on the BBC,
Quite right too,Guido.
These people are a boil on the backside of public life and all that you can do to shine a light on their activities will be welcome.
I have seen enough to know that there is no such thing as an honest MP, indeed if there is it numbers about three in total.
The rest are dishonest spongers off the taxpayer.
No amount of spin from any voice in Westminster or via the media is convincing anybody with half a brain cell any different.
We know who they are, and what they are!
I am hoping to meet one!
If there are any “honest” politicians You could count them on an Iranian Thief’s Right hand !
“Ya got trouble with a capital T and that rhymes with P and that stands for pool.” – Robert Preston
Amen to that, Boy!
Go Get ‘em Guido!
Dave not only needs to be whiter than white, but needs to be seen by the electorate to be as such too. Of course people like Rudd will seek to court the man most likely to be the next PM, the important thing is how DC reacts to the lobbying rather than the fact that it happens.
You are right that the lobbying “industry” needs to be curtailed, but hopefully the Tories are aware that the public are looking to elect honest men and women to Parliament in the next election – those who have not been honest or are seen to be backing “big business” rather than the average man, can expect to be unseated whichever party they are from.
It’s nice to think that the lobby corruption will be disposed of, but I will say “Fat Chance”. It isn’t going to happen – too much money and too much self interest is involved for it to be easily dealth with.
It’s like the situation with the unions. We now need a thatcher figure who will tell the bullying corrupt corporates where to get off as thatcher told the unions where to get off.
Agreed. Dave has to prove to us that he’s very pro-active in this matter. We’ve already seen many MP’s (including Conservatives) who are happy to do deals under the table. The reason for Mandleson’s so-called holiday on Deripaska’s yacht still hasn’t come to light, but it will eventually.
Steve Expat, that is fine in the ideal world but we must see mankind with its moral limitations, acquisitiveness and ego as inherent and immutable. Under this vision, the fundamental challenge that confronts mankind is to organise a system consisting of social mores, customs and laws that make the best of the human condition rather than waste resources trying to change human nature.
It is this realistic vision of mankind that underlies the thinking and writings of Adam Smith, Edmund Burke and Alexander Hamilton, among others.
Nobody is saying that Dave should be dishonest but he must not be naive either.
We will now sing Hymn Number 99, “Bless the squire and His relations”.
Oooow Arrr!
All the creeps in the land and further afield will be beating a path to his door. Making sure they’ve got the ear of the ‘new nearly king’. Almost certainly, when DC finally takes on the mantel of power, he’ll behave as badly as all the rest. Plus ca change.
George Osborne and Oleg Deripaska, now that rings a bell of someone who was so out of his depth it took Osborne months to even realise when he should shut up.
What a lightweight he is.
Mandleson was only there because there was something in it for him. Pity you missed that.
Osborne mouthed off and got fried, the fool.
Those in the time of economic crisis who have any faith in Osborne in the time of economic crisis, fools too.
Mouthed off Jonty? Sorry, but it sounds remarkably like you’re trying to defend Mandy’s presence there in the first place. Ahh, you are a true socialist after all then, as you believe in the whole “one rule for my lot, but another for everyone else” thing.
You miss the point.
Osborne spoke to the press about what happened at a private party when hosted by Nat Rothschild. Nat Rothschild was incandesent with rage because Osborne’s prattling had offended Rothschild’s hedge fund’s client Oleg Deripaska.
It’s nothing to do with Labour ethics it’s to do with competence and intelligence, Osborne hasn’t either.
But will Osborne get us into trillions of debt, whilst parroting “no more boom and bust” and “I saved the world”? Hopefully not.
But everyone is a “lightweight” in comparison to your intellectual collusus.
Still waiting for an update on Coulsongate. There’s absolutely fuck all in the papers so we have to rely on you as the sole source of this mega political scandal.
Ah, Mastur Bator! Are YOU Mandlebum’s Right Hand as well?
Fisherman’s friend google Peter Grimes.
Does a fisherman’s friend get to share a fisherman’s cottage ?
Ask or google Peter Grimes
Surely, if the meeting with Osborne was above board,why should he not speak out? If there is something to hide,I suggest Mandelson has behaved far more suspiciously,yet you would have us believe he is more trustworthy.
What bizarre argument.
OK Putin, try to concentrate.
Osborne irritated his host’s important guest, which guest is a very important client of Osborne’s host’s hedge fund.
Osborne’s host was also Osborne’s patron in providing GBP500,000 per annum ‘office’ expenses.
Or in other words Nat Rothschild was upset by Osborne talking about his hedge fund client Deripaska and took away GBP500,000 funding for Osborne’s office.
Or in other words Osborne is stupid and now thoroughly damaged goods with a lot less funds than before he opened his manic gob.
Isn’t Coulsongate a toothpaste?
I do not recall.
Great change of direction Guido.
Hit them where it hurts, fuck their slimy back room deals, abuses of parliamentary process and fuck their cosy corpulent coterie club.
Bastards the lot of them.
I may have to put you back on the naughty stool if you continue to make desperate attempts to draw attention to yourself. You’re bad, little boy! Dead boring as well.
Mark Oaten says
“Did someone mention ‘stools’?”
put me on the ‘nasty’ stool, please
I think you mean put the nasty stool on me.
preferably upside down
Tw@g8 surely Guido, yoof cultcha and all that.
I think the politicians are so up their arse if they honestly think we believe all their crap.
An example; Brown says no cuts are needed, a quick read around the newspapers, the internet, money / investment newsletters show most “experts’ say there will need to be at least 10 – 16% cuts. So we have to make a call who is right? Who is trying to fuck with our heads? Do we have any respect for any fucker that tries to spin us a line, no we don’t.
With all the sources of info available nowadays anybody that tries to spin their shit , no matter how smart they think they are, are onto a loser.
If they can engineer 10-20% inflation then no-”cuts” are needed.
Think about how Brown thinks.
Cameron’s personality type is incapable of deep strategic thinking or forming meaningful relationships with people. He can change his policies like he changes his socks and if the herd changes direction he’ll follow even if it means selling you out. People like him like to talk up cutting edge ideas and be seen to be your friend but under the presentation he’s deeply conservative and prone to gossiping behind peoples backs with his chums.
Don’t believe me? Phone Harvard.
Be still, grasshopper.
Another repeat. You’re getting like the Beeb, Charlie.
You’re a bit redundant yourself bitch
Why do you always resort to insults? I respect your views and some of your comments have been measured and well thought out. Why can’t you respect other people?
Simple, he is Harwidge’s cyber thug. An enforcer who patrols the crowd to ensure we are all enraptured by the great one. No dissent allowed.
Some of his “reasonable” views are there to give some credibility. But remember, this person is a self-confessed wifebeater and his hatred of women is evident everywhere.
Shame Guido doesn’t have an ignore button on this site so I could blank out this fascists ravings.
coz you’re a nice girl that has for some crazy reason decided to collaborate with the enemy…it saddens me as much as it does you I can assure you.
I think you are being too profound.
He just likes the sound of his own voice, and believes himself to be both amusing and interesting. Think of him as the human equivalent of a fly, but without the intelligence.
He will go away when his mum has recovered enough to let him out of his room, then reappear when she can’t tolerate his constant prattling any more.
Speedo was a very bad boy yesterday – looks as though today’s going to be the same.
Sir Reg, you are probably right.
Indeed he reminds me of Spoilt Bastard the a comic character from the magazine Viz, the young vain child and bane of his self-sacrificing and long-suffering mother. The boy is called Timmy Timpson, wears a sailor suit and lives with his doting, docile mother (named Cissy appropriately enough) after his father walked out immediately following his son’s earliest outrageous demand. Timmy spends each story viciously bullying, cajoling and blackmailing his mother. (As all wifebeaters did).
Henceforth, whenever I can be arsed to respond to his feeble and unpleasant posts I shall address him as Little Timmy and in patronising terms. I urge others to do the same.
Ah yes, AGITPROP. Agitation Propaganda. Say something long enough and loud enough and people will begin to believe it.
Hence the mindless repetition of the minion troll Harwidge.
Brown’s personality type is incapable of deep strategic thinking or forming meaningful relationships with people.
Fixed that for you, Charles…
well done steve.
good work.
Steve,
Brown is incapable.
Fixed it for you.
Of course your loony McBust is a mental defective incapable of telling the truth, how many times has McLiar been caught out out and had to backtrack and U turn while blaming everyone but himself?
I hope that one day soon the cold shower of reality will wake you up!
Thats what your Shorts Chant! As a countdown to the next time you wash them !
“It is human nature to be helpful to people who have been generous hosts towards you.”
Well now, there’s a thing. How long has this been so?
Interesting post Guido. Cameron should be very careful where he dines; and this looks like one to be treaded with utmost suspicion – we have had the Blair, purer than pure, line whilst he and Brown were taking money from Geoffrey Robinson and his ilk to run their private offices and within months of taking power they were changing road schemes to please that nice little Mr Ecclestone who had given them a million quid. Utterly disgusting and Cameron surely has the nous to know that he will be damaged by even been seen in the company as men like Rudd. Let them lobby as supplicants when the Tories are in power and decide on merit alone. The country is awash with the fallout from Browns malevolent and incompetent Socialist spending spree; every single day comes evidence of retrenchment on every front and to carry off the hair shirt regime we are all in for Cameron must be seen to be clean.
Don’t forget the 1.1 million pounds donated to New Labour by various animal rights groups before the 1997 election. That’s why more parliamentary time was spent on the hunting ban than the Iraq war.
700 hours on fox hunting as opposed to 7 hours on the Iraq invasion according to Private Eye.
And did we ever find the foxes’ weapons of chicken destruction?
Did we bollox!
I would sincerely like to see Blair in Europe.
In the Hague.
That’s an Oxy, you moron…..
“labour and Work” in the same sentence….tut, tut….back to school for you
I’m still laffing at the thought of Brown doin a televised debate !!!
I’m sure Nokia are looking forward to the extra publicity!
There will be no ‘debate’ just like there are no questions answered at PMQ. If Brown plucks up enough courage to show up then no matter what the question he will filibuster with five or ten minutes of lies, mendaciousness and tractor stats and then stand there with his smug self-satisfied leer of idiocy writ large on his glib face/
Yep, Broons approach to debate is the same as Hardwidge’s – ignore the question and give your prepared speech instead of an answer. I doubt even the beeb would want to broadcast anything that tedious.
Let’s hope everyone broadcasts it live in a prime time slot.
That way everyone can see what the rest of us see every Wednesday at midday – that Broon can’t answer a question with a straight answer and resorts to reading his prepared statement and tractor stats, answering the question he wished he’s been asked!
Cameron is much more confident and gives the impression of being candid, honest and trustworthy (but so did Blair, I know!), he would win quite easily in the minds of the average man in the street..
McBust’s doctor must have upped his dose a lot for Mendaciouscum to be so confident.
Well McBroon is the master debater of his time.
The more exciting issue is the identity of a chairman for any dabate. All of the self perceived “heavy weights” will be after this one…
David or Jonathan Dingleberry (now there’s a sibling spat in the offing…), Brillo, Toemnails, Poxman, Marr, Adam Bolt-on?
Mandy will doubtless want a Labia loyalist placeman as a pre condition. In that case my suggestion would be Ronnie Campbell.
I’m not sure what the media’s issue is. They should be wise to the marketing tricks Cameron is using to look plausible while covering up his policy on the hoof and rewriting history. Plus, the Turbo-Tories are quietly tearing themselves apart behind the scenes as the tax cutters and the ones who don’t want to rock the boat, and this is not being given any coverage.
Be still, grasshopper.
Thank you, Jonty.
The problem for the media is their conditioning to the socialist slavery propaganda system.
For 12 years, they have been told what to write. The threat of excommunication has worked well with the use of D notices for anything really unpleasant ( think a Scottish town starting with the letter D or depressed teenagers here).
Mr Campbell worked his black arts well. A suicidal doctor walking in the country discovered what it felt like to be destroyed by a compliant media. That power is starting to wane. The media sense a change, but having to think for themselves is strange and will take some getting used to.
We could wind up with a fair and balanced media in the UK that thought for itself and was wary of following political spin. Unlikely though, with so many vested interests.
Hop along grasshopper, lawnmower approaching.
I am not convinced Dr Kelly was suicidal.
Nor am I. Where was his note to his family? A man like that would never commit suicide and not leave a message for his family.
Don’t know how this one slipped through:
I’m not sure what the media’s issue is. They should be wise to the marketing tricks Gordon Brown is trying to use but failing to look plausible while covering up his policy on the hoof and rewriting history. Plus, the new labour war party are quietly tearing themselves apart behind the scenes as the tax cutters and the ones who don’t want to rock the boat, and this is not being given any coverage.
Be shrill no hoper.
Please let me go.
Lobbyists are like Slinkies. They may not have any real use but they can give you a lot of fun when you push them down the stairs.
Yip – my posts have been deleted again – at least this time it’s not been ALL of them so I should be grateful for small mercies….sorry to the rest of you who may have had your line of thought disrupted by it as you read but – “not guilty your honour” it was the big boy upstairs that did it.
Re 82 – that was such a humble post from you. I was going to thank you for your apology, say how much I appreciated the gentle humour in it, the absence of foul language, but then I read 85. It’s not funny – it’s cruel and wicked.
I STILL SAY CAMEROJN EXPLOITED THE DEATH OF HIS BABY FOR POLITICAL ADVANTAGE COZ IT IS A FACT.
*****IGNORE THE TROLL*******
Your One Sick Puppy !
No, yer pal DC is a sick puppy Scott – it wasn’t ME who advertised it on the telly – it was your pal Dave, gettit?
SS
Why are you such an unpleasant person? What possible motivation could anyone have to make such vile statements?
because the things I say are factually accurate and in the public domain – it’s called political discourse, ever heard of it Grandad? But just you go ahead and vote for that ch1ld abu5er anyway coz your wallet don’t have no conscience anyway Sengai, does it.
SS. I support your comment. SP you are offending people who would otherwise support you. On this particular subject you are wrong to express your opinions in that way. Have you no feelings for anybody else? There are plenty of other things you can mouth off about. Please apologise, and desist.
I have fought the good fight all my life my dear I am not about to apologise for it. Sometimes life is less than pleasant but we all have to stand up for what we think is right _*irrespective*_ of the slings and arrows that get thrown our way.
Fook me – have I got this wrong – I must be getting tired.
Contessa:
I am sorry that you can not support my comment. Your statement that there are plenty of things I could “mouth off about” is of course true; but it applies to any topic anyone chooses.
I feel fully justified in what I said. How can anyone – using the justification of political debate – accuse a parent of wanting to exploit the death of their child. It is a sick accusation and has no place in civilised discussions.
I support David Cameron and loathe Gordon Brown and the original accusation covered both. It is vile in both cases.
To ask the question “have I no feelings for anyone else” whilst apparently supporting the comments by SS seems to me to be a trifle eccentric.
WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE NATION’S POOR CHILDREN WHO BARELY HAVE ENOUGH TO EAT? THEY WOULD HAVE DIED FOR A FEW MINUTES OF THE LUXURY THAT CAMERON’S BABY ENJOYED.________________________SAVE THE CHIDREN!
What fucking children with nout to eat ? they do not exist ! With one exception where the Scum parents Choose to spend their vast amounts of Benefits On Drugs Booze and Fags Lazy Bone Idle Fuckers Should Be Sterilized before they can sign on !
*precisely* you dimwitted piece of shit *precisely so* – why should innocent children either be privileged by riches liek the Cameron Children or starved by having ignorant parents – a caring society wold protect ALL its children. Don’t forget, most incest comes from RICH families, gettit?
S’cuse me? Most incest comes from RICH families? And your evidence for this bizarre claim is?
JGM2
His parents perhaps ?
To be fair there is strong evidence in the fact that
Cameron, Prince Charles, Princess Diana and Camilla Parker-Balls are all related to each other.
It can’t be healthy, evidently it isn’t.
Absolutely, how else can you explain Harriet Harman ?
162 – from years working in the field that is where I get it – what is your evidence for denying it?
Fred West was a millionaire?
SHUT THE FUCK UP. I KNOW THE CRICKET’S DELAYED BUT HAVE YOU NOTHING TO SAY THAT’S NOT OFFENSIVE…?
After twelve years of Labour mis-rule thare are still children in the UK who have barely enough to eat?
Surely, that was only the case when Mrs Thatcher was prime minister.
You were lucky, we dreamed of being starved to death by Mrs. Thatcher!
Good point SP. I was in a run down part of a major English city yesterday and it was astonishing how many of the people I saw there were smoking, talking on top of the range mobile phones and wearing tattoos, jewellery, designer and sports clothes as well as being FAT!
All classic signs of the poverty out of which Gordon Brown wants to lift us.
Yes there are poor people in this country but benefits should be targetted to the truly deserving.
True – the political question is “who is best placed to achieve that objective” – neither of the two main parties have done very much that also is true
TIME to do somehing about it now though and the trickles down economics of the last thirty years have been shown not to work.
The tories stand condemned by their history of anti-workign class actions.
Labour stand condemned for inaction
So Labour are the lesser of the two evils, albeit still unsatsfactory for what needs to be done. The best of a bad lot (not much of a compliment I know) but we can only work with what we have.
Tory government? – NEVER AGAIN, NEVER NEVER NEVER.
Personally I’m looking forward to the first Conservative administration in Scotland it’s only a matter of time
450 – I agree with you and it will be no bad thing for democrcy. Most capital cities have conservative administrations so I don’t expect Edinburgh will be any different. Try getting that common sense across to some of your mates, eh?
I’d rather leave it to you, the more you cry vote labour the fewer votes they get.
Personally I categorise you as an SNP troll. Your comments are very much aimed at provoking anti- scottish feeling. It’s Salmond’s goal to piss the english off so much that they tell the Scots to piss off.
There are many Scots who are unfairly tainted with your trashing of Scotland’s heritage. Not least the 20+% who vote Conservative, For my part I am going to start a hug a Jock campaign to counteract the SNP and if I see George Laird he’ll have a huge French Kiss or one up the jacksy.
Thanks (((S)))
469 – Do I make it that obvious? Basically you’re right but my antagonism is not against the English people – it is against the idea of an English tory party governing in Scotland again if it does not even have a single MP –
A Scottish tory government FINE – that is okay. If i have been harsh, it was only to be harsh with the facts and hoping they got through.
The English are NO victims, they are big enough to fight for themselves, it is MY culture that is under threat NOT yours/theirs.
About the most interesting thing you’ve said all day.
And just at he point when my son is dragging me to the pub ( no Hamas )
Will debate what Scottish means if your still here when I get back.
enjoy! catchya later
ENGLAND – A NATION OF ANIMAL LOVERS AND CHILDEN HATERS – BE ASHAMED – BE VERY, VERY ASHAMED.
presumably you prefer a nation of animal haters and child lovers – try Scotland
If you can’t say something sensible then shut the fuck up
Whatever became of the Scottish Enlightment ?
You’re lookin’ at it baby.
Yes I rather thought so, all the sensible one’s have left now.
Yes, governing YOU
Is Cameron PM already ?
Oh joy Mandelson no longer rules !
THAT DOESN’T STOP YOU DOES IT?
Socialism in all its various guises is probably the most evil government system ever invented by man. More people have been murdered, tortured, displaced and impoverished by socialism (including fascism, communism, national socialism, Trotskyism. Maoism, Leninism et etc) than any other ideology or religion.
Budgie – calm down.
vote labour to end child poverty FUCK THE TORIES.
5p€d0 will you shut the fuck up your I’m trying to watch Bid-Up TV enni & your shouting at that fucking computer?????
Fining people who have done nothing wrong in order to reward people who have children they cannot afford to look after will never work.
It will just divide the nation even more.
Having a child you cannot afford to look after should be a crime. It should not be an excuse to parasite upon wealth creators.
FUCK THE PARTY THAT MURDERED OUR ELDERLY WITH HYPOTHERMIA FROM NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD THE HEAT OF A FIRE – FUCK CAMERON – DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL.
Smart thinking – if everyone’s damned to hell they don’t need the winter fuel allowance.
This makes a change from pensioners being frozen to death because the miners fancied another pay rise. For more production? For more efficiency?
No. They just fancied more money.
Now fucking well pay up or you’ll all freeze to death. We’re ‘key-workers’ you know. You can’t live without us. We’ve got you over a barrel.
Fucking socialist miners and their union controllers killed waaaaaay more pensioners in pursuit of their selfish ends than Cameron ever did or will.
I see that GFB Bob Crow sticking his fucking oar in down on the Isle of Wight last night. ‘Brothers and sisters…..’
Fuck off Crow you CLINT.
If DC introduces road tolling I bet more pensioners will be killed on t’pavement.
He’s not my brother. He’s too heavy.
Have you checked your fuel bills lately ? Or does your mum pay them for you ?
Time To Put Your Longsleeved White Jacket on Again And Have Your Shock Treatment ! Oh And For Fucks Sake Wash Them Fucking Shorts !
So Labour won’t be pushing old folk nearer starvation by raiding theirpensions then? Hypocrit! The Tories don’t need your parliamentary seats at the next election, so carry on raging impotently with your over-melodramatic exaggerated bollocks. I wish I could vote SNP to get rid of you.
Turn the caps lock of you fecking redundant child!!
It’s pretty clear that Labour are creating real solutions to real problems while the Tories are selling a con trick that ordinary people will never profit from. The Tories had no response to the economic crisis and no plan for creating a recovery, and more and more people are beginning to see that.
Jeez, just let it go.
Be still, grasshopper.
Do you get paid by the Students Union to write all this drivel, Jonty?
CEH. Surly you mean that Labour are creating real problems and conning ordinary people with incorrect solutions.
The Tories are the opposition ( not the government ) at present so all the ills from the last 12 years ( and they are legion) are the work of the socialist slavery Labour party.
Hop along grasshopper, lawnmower approaching.
TEN MONTHS TO GO
YOU’RE OUT
GET OVER IT
This identical comment was posted at least once before. Please reboot, to prevent the statist’s regurgitation program repeating as obviously as the BBC.
ALL YOU YOUNG GENERATION CLASS TRAITORS THAT VOTE AGAINST YOUR GRANDPARENT’S STRUGGLES – FUCK THE LOT OF YOU AS WELL – YOU ARE A SHAME TO YOUR NATION’S HERITAGE.
VOTE LABOUR – FUCK THE TORIES.
My grandparents’ struggles were primarily against Germany. Presumably yours were fighting the english about the same time?
their real struggle was birth control otherwise they would have aborted you at birth.
I see you have not understood the basics of sex education.
No you have not mastered the basic of reading fuckwit – the GRANDPARENTS could have aborted the bastard AFTER BIRTH – if the parents did it themselves (as you seem to imply) then I would have been contradicting my own assertion that hey had a problem with birth control (having evidently acted properly according to the circumstacnes they found themslves in) see?
Abortion takes place inside the womb, outside it is known as murder or a sensible precaution if in the Cental Belt of Scotland
I bow to your greater wisdom of abortions but , so far as I can see, military operations can be aborted, governement plans can be aborted, etc so for the life of me, I cannot see how YOU could not have been aborted by your grandparents shortly after you “popped ou”, as it were.
Probably because they were too busy fighting the Germans, while yours were busy lowering the IQ of Scotland
every message getting scrubbed or bl0cked – waste of time.
To the best of my knowledge Cameron hasn’t
- invaded a foreign country
- introduced ID cards
- allowed the ceation of a surveillance state
- tried to suppress dissent when citizens disagree with the State ideology.
You advocate voting for the people with these policies.
I see a photograph of A Johnson proudly holding up an id card in today’s independent. Must have been dreaming, but I understood id cards had been dropped? Can anyone enlighten me?
my previous two messages (at least) in reply to you resurgemus have been deleted because they referred to the people DC had all1ed jmself with in Eur0pe and I said how you ought to be ashamed of yourself for supporting him [DC] in that endeavour which is NOT what your grandparents would have wanted you to do and neither did they fight for fasc1sts. Hope this gets finally through but the cens0r has fucked th1ngs up from going any fuurther – thanks for the debate.
My messages are getting deleted and blocked – it is hopeless – thanks for the debate anyway
my previous two messages (at least) in reply to you resurgemus have been deleted because they referred to the people DC had all1ed jmself with in Eur0pe and I said how you ought to be ashamed of yourself for supporting him [DC] in that endeavour which is NOT what your grandparents would have wanted you to do and neither did they fight for fasc1sts. Hope this gets finally through but the cens0r has fucked th1ngs up from going any fuurther – thanks for the debate anyway.shame its been “aborted”.
all my messages getting scrubbed or bl0cked – waste of time.
all my messages getting scrubbed or bl0cked – waste of time.
They also didn’t fight for Marxists like Mandelson and Ainsworth to be running the country
I beg to differ but they did – its just that you’re too stupid to see why that would be the case.
Well that’s good then isn’t it because your messages were a waste of time.
‘Class traitors?’ S’cuse me?
Twatgate?
FUCK THE TORIES FOR NOT COMPENSATIGN MINERS WITH SILICOSIS AND EMPHYSEMIA – VOTE LABOUR – FUCK THE PARTY OF THE RICH AND ITS THIEVING CRIMINALS
No, that was scargill and his tame lawyers, you mong.
you are not worth replying to – so I won’t.
On so many levels your last comment was your most intelligible, is this proof of the Infinite Monkey Theorem?
mu !
shorts,
you are beginning to sound like a marxist propagandist. I feel it only fair to tell you that Guido really really hates marxists.
please stop acting as though the labour party is as white as white.
that is patently a lie and undermines anything else of relevance you may have to say.
step away from the keyboard and have a nice cup of tea.
oh, and the golden rule of blogging is if you are not sure don’t post.
bear that in mind, eh? methinks you are getting carried away with yourself.
you misunderstand shorts.
’tis you who will have to fuck off if you keep misbehaving.
I am only trying to help.
you cheeky c’unt.
Dont listen to these liars. Marxism is a respected academic methodology used all over the world not least in the United Staes which is hardly a communst country now is it? They’re trying to scare people into not thinking things through fully for themselves – IGNORE the scare-mongers!
Here is a big hug for ya (((TaT)))
people who think things through for themselves don’t vote marxist. Marxists murder anyone who gets in the way. Lenin, Stalin and Mao made Hitler look an amateur.
READ the message fuckwith – Marxism is an academic methodology – you DON’T fooking VOTE for it, *duh*
Since when ?
Following the babblings of a long dead German – thought you were against that.
I am only one pair of hand – ask Gu1d0 he prolly studied it at Hull Tech. – but in the mean time
“The theories of Marxism are sometimes called dialectical materialism; to be clear there is no one answer to a question – theory is based on a particular set of conditions that are always finite, and thus, any theory is necessarily limited. To test the validity of theory, Marxists rely on practice as the criteria of truth. Using such a methodology Marx and Engels examined history”
try http://marxists.org
which might open your eyes just a wee bit.
Read it, laughed at it, rejected it years ago.
Too much like we have the master plan – very German
SS. Confused by the line you are presently taking. I remember a few days ago you were pushing the idea that a hung parliament would be the best thing for the country.
541 – Contessa, if I remember rightly I numbered the options and put a Labour victory at 1) and a hung parliament at with a conservative victory at number 3). What was common to all of the options was a vote for independence.
521 back from the theatre already are you?
SS. What’s with your new name? Esquire? Getting awfully posh all of a sudden aren’t we?
645 – Hehehe Posh, mois? had to change the name my Welsh beauty because the g00d gu1d0 is trying to whup muh ass so I have to be fast on muh feet.. There seems to be a personality clash between me and gu1d0
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COMPENSATIGN ???What The Fuck is That ?? PISS BRAIN !
So the Telegraph having usurped Guidos self appointed task he is setting up another aunt sally for his deprived readers to wank themselves off over ??
Mr F has to make a living somehow I suppose. Still if it fires off the likes of McBride maybe there is some small point to it.
As Guido helpfully links – Rudd is ‘close’ to James Murdoch. “Finsbury is one of the leading financial, regulatory and political communications agencies in the world.”
I would be disappointed if Cameron were not speaking to him. Rudd “is one of an elite band of opinion formers who straddle the worlds of politics, media and high finance”.
Naah Cameron, tell the bastard to fuck off – all the tossers who read Guido know a damn sight more than you do.
Cameron is a failed PR, PR is where Cameron failed.
Now he thinks he can play with the big boys, poor fool.
You have to be a bad bad person to ‘get on with the big boys’ . DC isn’t bad. He should keep away from the big boys, he’s the one with the power.
OR ALTERNATIVELY YOU MAY WISH TO CAST YOUR BALLOT FOR THE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS…..IF YOU’RE FUCKING STUPID ENOUGH THAT IS
VOTE LABOUR
FUCK THE TORIES
You don’t cast a ballot, you cast a vote. The ballot is the whole process of voting.
Get a brain fuckwit
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ballot
bal·lot (blt)
n.
1. A sheet of paper or a card used to cast or register a vote
1. Implies 2., doesn’t it?
Or should it be put to a vote?
you can have the casting vote on this one I’m bored
Carried!
Oi Numpty, Pithead ballot = show of hands. Ballot box = where you put your ballot papers or ballot cards. A ballot of members= asking them to vote on an issue.
You no speeko de lingo?
Qualification: you must be a masochist to vote Liebore.
FUCK THE PARTY THAT MADE OUR HOMELESS PEOPLE SLEEP IN THE STREEET IN CARDBOARD BOXES
VOTE LABOUR
FUCK THE TORIES
HONOUR YOUR GRANDPARENTS MEMPORY AND THEIR STRUGGLES FOR YOU.
Nurse, Paedo’s medication is wearing off.
‘Cos there’s been no-one seen sleeping in cardboard boxes for the last 12 years, have there?
Vote ABL
No they Mysteriously all go off and die in the woods ! Strange !
apart from you steve. you sleep in cardboard boxes because you are a tramp.
and I must say that if you do not face the reality of your desperate situation steve you will always be a crackhead tramp.
I know you like the crack steve but it is killing you and it is keeping you homeless and sleeping in cardboard boxes.
snap out of your crackhaze and think about it steve for fucks sake.
we are all very concerned about your depressing situation.
stop smoking rocks steve just stop doing it.
you can’t say I didn’t try my best to help you.
Labout are trying to denigrate the efforts of our wounded soldiers by cutting the amount of compensation offered to them.
That’s not very nice, is it.
get a fucking BRAIN shel – get a BRAIN – you are talking a load of SHITE.
It IS true though, isn’t it.
No it fooking ain’t true – don’t listen to that old hag Nell. The welfare system in this country exists UNDER STATUTE LAW and has done since 1948 USING A SYSTEM OF ASSESSED NEEDS. Believe me, what I am saying is TRUE .
Pants on fire
We’re talking about compensation due to soldiers who have been badly injured whilst fighting for this country.
Tight-fisted. But what can we expect from a government full of Scots.
is this really you Shel – I am not so sure.
Would these be the same homeless “Tramp’s and Cripples” you refere to nearly every time you open your Gob ?
What is the apostrophe for in “Tramp’s” you brainless piece of shit
Brainless ! Thats Rich comming From a Piss Soaked Jock ! Get A Fucking job You Pondlife Fucker !
excuse me I have never fucked pondlife in my nelly – introduce me to your sister coz there is a first time for everything.
Brainless piece of shit sprang to mind when i read your post 156 ” Liek Cameron” And”wold Protect” ? Dyslexic Twat ”””””””””””””””””’
She Wouldn’t Go near you . The smell of stale Piss Emanating from your Shorts would See To That ! You TIT.
Got To Go Back To W O R K Now That mean to earn Money ! Not Just Lounge About All Day Stinking OF Piss Waiting For Your Giro You Fucking Trev !
I really like your first name darling, “Scott” – hmmmm very nice and Scottish and MANLY (just like Sp€do)
Totally Above Your Fucking Big Ginger Scotch Head As Per ! Say The Two Names Together And What Does It Say ? Yeeeees Now Youve Got It . Thick Twat !
Don’t make excuses – its a nice name, be PROUD of it.
Sorry SS. People are sleeping on the streets right now. And they include plenty of Scots. In Edinburgh and Glasgow too.
545 – Did I say they were not? Can you quote me on that?
It was a phenomena that first emerged with the Conservative government of 1979 which still persist even to this day – believe you me, I was there and saw their destruction unfold.
sweep the scumbags off the streets! you dozy lefties!
Yes, Boris is doing that at the moment with high pressure water hoses, the bastard. What a way to treat our boys back from the wars, eh? Maybe they need a dose of Cameron Kindness for good measure, and God preserve them if they ever get it.
The Tories have hijacked the British character of independence and community. They sell their own ambitions to the electorate but this is a con as you’re never really in the club: they’re too scared to truly open their hearts and minds.
The Tao is very relevant to economic issues and has stood the test of time. But, the controlling and greedy mind cannot grasp this, so it is correct for Gordon Brown to criticise “Tory boom and bust”. The Tories don’t get success and society, and unless they really change they never will.
Ditch the Machiavelli. It’s useless. Read the Tao.
Be still, grasshopper.
Troll.
Yawn……
I am trying to understand whether hijacking the British character is better or worse than the socialist slavery Labour party’s attempt to destroy it.
Are you sure the Tao says that replacing boom and bust with just bust is a good thing? I thought that balance, neither boom nor bust was the goal.
Hop along grasshopper, lawnmower approaching.
The New Labour War Party and their american friends have hijacked the British character of independence and community. They sell their own ambitions to the electorate but this is a con as you’re never really in the club: they’re too scared to truly open their hearts and minds.
The Tao is very relevant to economic issues and has stood the test of time. But, the controlling and greedy mind cannot grasp this, so it was stupidly wrong for Gordon Brown to claim he had abolished boom and bust. New Labour don’t get success and society, and unless they really change they never will.
Ditch me. I’m useless. Smoke grass.
“Ditch the Machiavelli”.
I’ve heard it all now, from an advocate of the party that brought us Alistair Campbell,Charlie Whelan, Damian McBride – and (no pun intended) the Prince himself, Mandy Mandelson.
A bit likeBrown when he said something on the lines of “No more spin”.
You both have a short memory, contempt for the public, and your mum took you off the po too early.
The Sultans of Spin are still spinning as we write.
Paedo..The Sleeper is giving you the benefit of the doubt regarding the shouting above.
Perhaps you could confirm your innocence?
And Cameron is unwise if he is doing as Guido suggests..or is this another slur?
Could be young Jonty (the liar) has lied to him again.
Ehr, I’m on a roll – come back later.
Yeh sleeper, where were we? Ah yes, “what Gu1do says” – what compels you to ask me such a thing?
Bye bye Sleeper HAhahaahaaaaaa!!!!!!
If The Sleeper could understand your perpetual ranting,he might reply at length.
Paedo..you should not assume that all questions are aimed at yourself..even though your insecurities drive you to doing so.
Give your voice a rest..it’s sounding a bit fractious now…or is that the onset of pubity?
What a roll in the gutter with all the other wineo’s
If Labour can develop positive consensus and a better appreciation of the short versus long-term, cause and effect mechanisms, and how continuing to develop the “Brown Plan” will create a better alternative then “frustration” and “anger” will give way to happiness and contentment.
I commented a long time ago that people are angry merely because they are angry. Given a generation of fear and greed, it’s not surprising that people lack the vision and tools to get over themselves, but as we move forward this will change and perspectives will change accordingly.
Be still, grasshopper.
This generation of fear and greed would presumably be the last 12 years?
Makes sense. Time for a change then.
We are not merely angry because we are angry. Some of us have a very good reason.
You’re still not listening Charles. Typical Labourite.
Troll alert.
jgm2 alert
Labour have spent 12 years doing the exact opposite of developing any understanding or consensus about anything beneficial to the UK.
The removal from power of Brown and the socialist slavery Labour party will be a good start to clearing the frustration and anger the British people feel.
Hop along grasshopper, lawnmower approaching.
Guess who? Guess what? You got it, and here they are:
There is just no way Labour can develop positive consensus and a better appreciation of the short versus long-term, cause and effect mechanisms, and how continuing to develop the “JONAH’S Plan” which will create a far far worse alternative and then frustration and anger instead of happiness and contentment.
I commented a long time ago that people are angry because Gordon Brown is a self serving useless c’unt. Given his thug henchmens use of fear and greed, it’s not surprising that Brown lacks the vision and tools to get over himself, and as we move forward this will not change and his completely flawed perspectives will remain exactly the same.
Ben stiller smokes grass, so does dennis hopper.
you heard it here first.
Roland Rudd? Wasn’t he on TV-am when I was a nipper? Does he still live in King’s Cross? Yeeeah!
Apparently those ID cards that aren’t going to happen won’t display a Union Jack for fear of offending some minority or other :
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6733245.ece
Hi, Alan Johnson, Jacqui Smith’s replacement – if you’re reading this I’d just like to make something clear. Do you see that ID card? Do you? Well you can take it and stick it up your fucking arse you jackass.
I hope that is clear.
The Tories should be opposing ID cards because of the threat to liberty, not just because of the financial cost.
The Ingsoc ‘V’ and handshake logo would be more appropriate.
The present shower have probably got themselves locked in to a water tight contract that will cost them a fortune to cancel.
Not as much a fortune as pursuing it to idiocie’s bitter end though.
Galling to just gift Ross Perot a shit-load of money like that but, in the long run, much cheaper and less corrosive to our civil liberties. We could ‘surcharge’ Brown and his cabal of imbeciles just like Labour pursued Shirley Porter.
As more enlightened political parties, media, and businesses begin to “get it” the entities that don’t make this leap will find themselves in the trailing third of the population as the power dynamic begins to shift. They know this which is why some are kicking and screaming so much.
The future is innovation and society built for the long-term, and by focusing on developing ordinary peoples success and communities in a lasting way Labour will help secure the general election. Regressive forces will fight this every inch of the way but you can’t fight reality. Give up. Let go.
Be still, grasshopper.
Troll .
Charles E Hardwidge. Meglomaniac.
Charlie – your PC is still affected. If you have swept your PC for the ZaNuLiebour malware, Win32LiebourBolleaux virus and the Mandleson Trojan and still had no success, update your LiebourBot Search & destroy softwareSoftware and updates free from Conservative Central Office). Common symptoms of the above viruses are their ability to mix up Brown/Cameron and Liebour/Tory and adversely affect the fidelity of your graphics, giving people the false impression that intelligent people vote Labour. They are old viruses and have been around for 12 years, but the LiebourBot Search & Destroy software will win. Here is your original message corrected once again:
“As more enlightened political parties, media, and businesses begin to “get it” the entities that don’t make this leap will find themselves in the trailing third of the population as the power dynamic begins to shift. They know this which is why some are kicking and screaming so much.
The future is innovation and society built for the long-term, and by focusing on developing ordinary peoples success and communities in a lasting way the Tories will help secure the general election. Regressive ZaNuLabour forces will fight this every inch of the way but they can’t fight reality. Give up. Let go.
Be still, grasshopper.”
Are we sure the graphics fidelity software is not on to the negative image setting? It would explain much of the output seen receently.
Hop along grasshopper, lawnmower approaching.
As there is no such thing as enlightened political parties, media, and businesses begin to “get it” the entities that don’t make this leap will find themselves in the trailing third of the population as the power dynamic begins to shift(what a load of fucking shit-Ed). They know this which is why some are kicking and screaming so much(charles is a rapist).
Fuck knows what the future holds we in the Labour War Party haven’t got a fucking clue. The New Labour Torture Party is a regressive forces which will send our troops to fight america’s dirty wars but you can’t fight reality. I can’t give up heroin. It won’t let me go.
Bestial? grasshopper: it is the only thing that makes my cock look big.
OT
Looks like gags about being beaten like a red-headed step-child are off the agenda for a few days….
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/8176225.stm
Not a step-child. That would suggest that some of the “adults” involved had actually married. Biological father? Partner? Supposedly grown people who “love” each other but are not prepared to commit to a formal relationship for the sake of the children involved.
Selfless or selfish? Why should it be the child that suffers?
that fat jock poof says it’s nice weather for a barbie.
The Tories have been trying to talk Britain into recession over the past year and are now opposing legislation that secures employment rights. The Tories focus is the type that creates recession and ruins lives, and suggests they will merrily ruin the country merely to get back into power.
The short-term and selfish view is what you’d expect of a dumb and nasty child but it’s wholly destructive and self-destructive, and the Tory party remains incapable of seeing this. For a party that styles itself as “change” they’re doing a remarkable job of remaining welded to the past.
Be still, grasshopper.
Charles. The ecomony is ready fucked, recession in full effect and lives being ruined every day – under a Labour government.
The short-term and selfish view is held by the incumbent government who are desparate to follow through on their scorched earth policy no matter how badly it leaves the nation’s finances for the next government.
Irrespective of what is the cause of the recession the Conservitudes when smoked out to provide a position have been categorically wrong on how to deal with the recession. Their proposed actions and inactions would have made the recession longer and deeper. More businesses would have collapsed more people would have lost their employment. More public debt would have accrued. The Conservitudes with their bland ‘do nothing’ plans are completely out of their depth.
MB – why did you bother with your post? Every single statement in it is untrue. Do you enjoy showing yourself up as totally “economical with the truth” in public?
They are all absolutely categorically true.
Even right wing arch monetarist economists agree the Conservitudes are completely wrong on how to handle the recession.
MB, I know it’s unnusual but I will partly agree with you. Economists do indeed agree that spending should be increased during a recession to stimulate growth.
The problem is that economists also agree that during periods of high economic growth governments should pay off debt and save money where possible.
What has happened in the last 10 years is that the government claimed to have abolished the economic cycle – they carried on borrowing and spending even when tax receipts were higher than at any other time in history.
The result is that the country is now bank.rupt and the IMF are hovering – the next government has no choice but to drastically reduce the debt, by cutting spending, raising taxes or possibly both.
Many would argue that the Conservitude administration had neglected infrastructure including health and education to such an extent that the spending in the period of growth was necessary to correct the shortfalls of the Conservitude years. Those many are correct, schools and hospitals were falling apart, as were many other parts of the country. Labour has made substantial progress in correcting those Conservitude mistakes.
MB
Bollocks.
capital spend has been hived off to PFI which isn’t included in the debt statistics.
Money has been thrown indiscriminately at Schools and Health for no noticeable improvement; much can be said of other government departments. Therefore the levels of debt in the UK are substantially higher than they should be thanks to Gordon Brown’s policy of spend no matter what. The UK national finances should be in a much better state to help us get through the tough times.
Schools and health have been improved, considerably. Note there is no contradicting that the Conservitudes neglected these and other areas.
I also note there is no-one saying these have got substantially better
What part of ‘Schools and health have been improved, considerably.’ is difficult to understand?
The years of Conservitude neglect remain unrefuted, because they are fact and a scandalous fact.
All of it because it’s not true.
Why is Health not a worled beater? See below
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/2798796/NHS-productivity-falls-as-spending-rises-by-billions-under-Labour.html
Try comparing the first PISA report on UK performance with the latest. The UK is going backwards compared to its main competitor nations.
So much for Education, Education, Education.
In the area of education and health the Conservitudes when in power did nothing. They were neglignent and spectacularly incompetent and the country knows it absolutely clearly, that’s why they were electorally slaughtered three times in a row.
UK health and education has improved greatly under Labour.
Education has improved so much that independent schools are running scared of publishing their exam results because of the achievements particularly of suburban and rural state schools. Paying parents are realising what poor value they get from ‘private schools’. The Conservitudes being the party of social division would undermine state schools, deliberately.
MB, if schools have improved under 12 years of Labour, please would you explain why Oxbridge colleges are admitting a higher proportion of applicants from independent schools than was the case before 1997. You may answer without reference to the Bullingdon Club.
It’s easy enough to explain, actually.
The private schools hoover up the promising Oxbridge potentials from surrounding state schools and give them sixth form scholarships in order to flatter the schools’ achievements. The school spoonfeeds these promising candidates through the Oxbridge entrance process. Then the stupid paying wannabe posh or desparate to stay posh parents pay for their thick and maladjusted children to go to the school. The well connected thickos will still get by thanks to rampant widespread nepotism and corruption.
In any event entrance or not to a supposed elite university is not a reasonable measure of the achievment of an educational system. But some are too inculcated in to pointless class divisions to understand.
No charge
Totally false.
It’s because there has been a general lowering of standards and there is a smaller pool of candidates from which to choose.
The data in the international benchmark PISA shows the UK has been falling behind in all sectors, science, maths, literacy throughout the period of the Labour administration. And if you doubt that try doing and O or A level paper from 10 years ago and one from today.
Your reply is either ill-researched or dishonest. Probably both.
The Oxford Gazette on 2006 admissions gives a more accurate analysis.
“Students who apply from state schools and colleges have a comparable acceptance rate to those from independent schools (25% and 32% of applicants accepted respectively, 2006). However, most pupils who are accepted from state schools come from ‘elite’ grammar and selective schools, rather than comprehensives.”
As independent schools account for only 7% of the school population, Oxford has come under significant government and media pressure to improve its admission ratios in favour of the state sector. Initiatives such as the Oxford Access Scheme, Target Schools, and the FE Access Initiative have improved the ratio but not reversed the trend.
Oxbridge entrance may not be the only “measure of the achievement of an educational system” but it is a credible guide to the ability of the state sector to foster and develop academic excellence.
A goal of Team GB may be to field the largest team of qualified athletes in the 2012 Olympic Games, but if Great Britain fails to gain medals it will be perceived as a failure. Lottery funding and government support succeeded in achieving excellent results in Beijing. The much larger resources dedicated to the education system have not had the same success.
Perhaps Labour’s election slogan for 2010 should be changed to “Olympics, Olympics, Olympics”.
The point that private schools hoover up the surrounding high potential state school pupils to spoonfeed them through the Oxbridge process is true, attestable and not refuted in the comments following the earlier assertion of such practices. Oxford or Cambridge has little or no bearing on the improvements Labour has made in education. The education system was left to rot under the Conservitudes. The point of this discussion is to clarify the issue of public spending that was necessary in the ‘good’ years. It was necessary because the Conservitudes left the education and health systems to rot. The Conservitudes did that deliberately and with malice. The Conservitudes are the party of social division, corruption and nepotism, such stance being immoral but more importantly wasteful and inefficient. The UK’s lack of achievements in science, engineering and manufacturing is testament to that wasteful inefficiency. Unlike France, Germany and Italy the UK has not had a revolution to disestablish the hereditary landowning class, which fact perpetuates the country’s degeneration. Even now there are hereditary lawmakers in the UK. It is the 21st century.
Grow up.
Well it took 92 years and tens of millions of deaths but the murderous socialist scum have been finally beaten at last.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6733266.ece
Nice one, Sir William – now we just need to get rid of McDoom and the rest of the Commie B*stards who are still attempting to destroy the UK.
Given that most of the members of the Cabinet are former members of the Communist Party, student Trotskyites and CND fellow travellers, it seems that today’s news from Moldova makes the UK the last benighted Communist regime in Europe.
I think you’ve spent too much time ‘down under’ Aus. Newlabour have only ever been a faux labour party. They’ve espoused almost every tory policy known to man! Tony Blair = son of thatcher. Opportunist par excellance.
barefootcontessa: you may be a bit too close to see the BIG picture. NuLabour are destroying the UK – its institutions, way of life, armed forces etc, as well as destroying the future – thrird rate education, massive debt. This looks like classic Marxism. The fact they managed to enrich and enoble themselves along the way is no contradiction.
Agree ‘down under’, newlabour has wrecked the country, but not because they’re socialists. They have consistently followed tory policies. Tony Blair, with mandelson and the gorgon wanted power at any price, didn’t matter a fig what party they were in. Even their attachment to the USA and desire to go to war was more akin to the tory party than to the original labour party.
Barefoortcontessa: Australian@221 didn’t refer to NuLabour as socialists. The point is its a calculated Marxist/Communist move to destroy the country.
Agree again, newlabour have wrecked the country. But your conspiracy theory that it’s got something to do with communists and or Marxists is way of beam.
correction, way OFF beam, and this an answer to Down Under.
Charles, Charles, Charles when are you going to learn
After Greenspan kept rates too low for too long after the “Tech Wreck” crash of 2000, interest rates should have been raised in 2004/2004 to take the punch bowl away from the party and not fuel the property bubble.
A prudent and responsible chancellor and BoE governor would have done so, but Gordon liked the tax revenue and trully beleive there was no more boom and bust.
He is discredited and we’re all bust.
It wasnae me. It was the Americans. They made me keep UK interest rates low. I had no control at all on UK rates.
And the banks. They forced me to borrow 40bn quid a year to employ one million bedwetters, boxtickes and bastards. They made me do it. And then, when I’d got used to borrowing and squandering all that money the Americans pulled the plug. They stopped me and everybody else pissing away all that borrowed money.
But it wasnae me. You can’t blame me.
I was being prudent. And I can prove it. Just look at all the old speeches where I told you I was being prudent. What more proof do you need?
It wasnae me I tell you.
Vote Labour.
It was financial innovation, advance mathematics, hocus pocus and magic beans, brought to you courtesy of a corrupt and over powerful financial oligarchy. Which oligarchs are busily funding the Conservitudes who have always marched in lock step with the thieving financial spivs. Those spivs have been laughing all the way to the banks as lightweights like you obsess about bath plugs and wisteria. Of it wasn’t the thieving financial oligarchy what was it, the unions?
Idiot!
MB
there are things call laws which are supervised by governments. Bankers under a functioning government do not commit frauds. If the regulatory authorities are doing they ask how new financing schemes work before they approve them, and if they don’t understand them they say no.
Pointless blaming bankers for a failure in the regulatory system. It’s like leaving the house to a teenagers party and being surprised they wrecked it. The responsibility sits with the government and its agncies and they screwed up; and Gordon Brown was on watch the whole way through.
A burglar is a burglar irrespective of whether a plodding, underpaid, under resourced policeman catches him.
Understand?
Most other people do understand. However feel free to use the “not enough regulation” defence for the malfeasance of the thieving Conservitude supporting financial spivs, it is still a delusion.
A burglar is a burglar irrespective of whether a plodding, underpaid, under resourced policeman catches him.
Understand?
Most other people do understand. However feel free to use the “not enough regulation” defence for the malfeasance of the thieving Conservitude supporting financial spivs, it is still a delusion.
Just follow the commission payments.
Yep, the credit bubble was caused solely by mal-regulation.
They regulated everything unimportant about banking in minute detail, but forgot that they should regulate the volume of credit (as they choose to enforce a currency monopoly).
Banks need less regulation and higher (average) reserves. Those reserves need to track changes in M4, in order to manage credit creation/repayment and thus keep banks solvent.
“The Liebourites have succedded in taking Britain into recession over the past year and are now proposing legislation that destroys employment rights. The Liebour focus is the type that creates recession and ruins lives, and suggests they will merrily ruin the country whenever they get back into power.
The short-term and selfish view is what you’d expect of a dumb and nasty child but it’s wholly destructive and self-destructive, and the Labour party remains incapable of seeing this. For a party that styles itself as “change” they’re doing a remarkable job of remaining welded to the past.
Be still, grasshopper.”
It’s a global recession.
Even they turn me right round baby right round like a record baby right round Cameron admitted finally that there is a recession all over Europe.
It did start in America.
It’s ripping the heart out of that country right now.
Calling someone else fat doesn’t make us thin. Brwon screwed up.
How about Chile, Canada, Poland and Australia? They are only suffering from external debt problems as they variously put money away for a rainy day, as in the case of Chile, whose president lectured Brown on this topic, and, Canada and Australia who are more conservative and regulated in their banking practices.
Gordon Brown has actively connived in the decline of Britain’s manufacturing sector. He has only recently started talking about “modern apprenticeships” because even he realised the desperate skill shortages that were having to be filled by Poles. He also was complacent in allowing the unfettered activity of the financial sector to continue as it funded his profligate spending on “investments”. These turned out to give an almost zero return for the public, such as the school leavers who are functionally illiterate and the hospitals that give you a deadly disease.
New Labour have been trying to talk Britain into recession over the past year and are now opposing legislation that secures employment rights. Gordon Brown’s focus is the type that creates recession and ruins lives, and suggests they will merrily ruin the country merely to stay in power.
The short-term and selfish view is what you’d expect of a dumb and nasty child but it’s wholly destructive and self-destructive, and Gorodn Brown remains incapable of seeing this. For a party that styles itself as “change” they’re doing a remarkable job of remaining welded to the past.
I Be still on the grass, hopper.
stop it now charles , ive done you your coco and put a hot water bottle in your bed next to your jim jams , bed time now , thats quite eneough.
Welcome to Pee Stains hovel.
tell the lads to come over, eh?
Hello Bator. Got bored with your old onanym?
I think people should keep their opinions to themselves.
Can we bring back Judge Jeffries ?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/5939176/Tony-Blair-to-be-called-to-Iraq-War-Inquiry.html
Teflon Tony. He didn’t get that name for nothing.
Why don’t we form a “welcoming committee” for him on the day he attends? There must be a convenient lamp post nearby and we can easily supply the “suspending material”!
There’s several convenient lamp posts on Westminster Bridge that would I’m sure be available. Maybe Messrs. Mandleson and Broon could be available at the same time..?
The inquiry will find that although mistakes were made, no minister acted inappropriately, and all decisions were made in good faith.
You may have been receiving confidential information. I shall have your office raided on a fishing expedition and smear your name in the media as a ‘threat to national security’. Just see if I don’t.
I’m not incompetent. I just need training.
No Jacqui. I’ve studied your aptitude tests and your Myers-Briggs. You’re incompetent and your personality is typically massively over-represented in the prison population.
Training would be wasted on you. We suggest you treat this feedback as a gift and pursue something more suited to your talents.
McDonalds need somebody to wipe their tables. You can start today.
A suspended sentence! What a good idea!
He’ll arrive in a bullet proof car accompanied by some hefty body guards. I think the lovely cherie should appear before the committee, she was ‘supposed’ to have whispered persuasively in everyone’s ears the night before the vote on the war took place.
Tony Blair now says he’ll be happy to give evidence to the inquiry on Iraq.
HAHAHAHA !! Yeah, as long as he is does n’t have to tell the truth. Can we not have him water=boarded ??
I had my first bad dream in ages last night. Everyone in the dream looked like Cameron dressed up in his Bullingdon togs, and they were invisible horse skipping around the place and shouting “Rupert! Rupert! Rupert!” at each other. Scary stuff.
The CBI and the Tories need to get over their risk averse and anti-social tendencies, which is why I don’t believe the Tories have changed or are anywhere near ready for government. Only Labour is looking ahead of the curve and safeguarding peoples stake in the economy.
Be still, grasshopper.
Jeez, just let it go.
After reading your comments and hearing you repeat yourself ad infinitum, I have come to this conclusion.
You need professional help, Charles, and very soon.
FFS One of him is enough!
Or an amateur with a shotgun.
The UK 1997 dream has turned into a 12 year socialist slavery nightmare.
Anybody believing that a straight kind of guy, or a son of the manse or any politican not yet elected had or will have an easy solution to all the UK’s ills is deluded.
The UK’s problems are a result of the failure of the political system, not just the malevolent actions of a single party.
The proper solution is not yet clear, but continuing in the current ruinous direction is wrong.
Hop along grasshopper, lawnmower approaching.
Only 12 years Big D?
I suspect that the slavery induced by the Socialist scum that have totally infected British politics and media is now irreversible and therefore permanant.
I meant “permanent”, of course!!!!
Give us a wave!
If enough slaves flee the plantation then slavery will fail.
Socialism like slavery is based on coercion, and will never produce a growing economy.
IMHO the Roman economy failed because it relied on slavery rather than reciprocation.
“I had my first bad dream in ages last night. Everyone in the dream looked like Brown dressed up in his Bozo the clown togs, and they were invisible rocking-horse riding around the place and shouting “Expenses! Expenses! Expenses!” at each other. Scary stuff.
The Unions and the Liebourites need to get over their risk averse and anti-social tendencies, which is why I don’t believe the Lefties have changed or are anywhere near ready for more government. Only the Tories are looking ahead of the curve and safeguarding peoples stake in the economy.
Be still, grasshopper.
Jeez, just let it go.”
“Rudd represents a number of corporate interests critically exposed to government regulation – BSkyB….”
Might explain why the tories are so against helping ITV by topslicing the licence fee to fund regional news. Sky would do anything to see ITV lose a regional identity, or be further weakened in any way. This would also have nothing to do, of course, with the fact that Sky is owned by the proprietor of a couple of the most powerful newspapers in the land. Nothing changes, does it. Cameron really is the heir to Blair.
If there is fat in the licence fee paid to the BBC, that could be re-directed to ITV Regional News, would it not be a lot better to reduce the license fee and let the tax payer keep a little more of their own money.
Let ITV regional news either fund itself via advertising or go broke – it is certainly not something else that should be subsidised.
Well, if you want to leave the BBC to have a monopoly with their pinko leftie broadcasting corps, paid for by us, then fine.
Whilst I agree that the BBC is a pinko leftie organisaton, that does not seem to me to be a sufficient justification to subsidise ITV.
If ITV news was subsidised and not subject to market forces it would rapidly become over manned, inefficient and complacent just like all subsidised organisations. Probably become pinko too, as inefficient and complacent organisatons are attractive to the lefties because they do not have to work very hard to get by.
Sungei Patani
+1 Extortion funded entertainment will always be biased towards the politics of extortion and against more moral reciprocal (subscription) based solutions.
Charles
your dream means you want to be a Conservative MP. The Rupert and horse references refer to Prince Rupert the nephew of King Charles. Meaning you are seeking to ensure the future of the Hardwidge dynasty by mating with a grasshopper.
Charles, you are really fucked up.
Bullshit! The horses represent the animus. They are invisible because he is denying his homoerotic attraction to this Rupert guy. This is one sick puppy. I wouldn’t have him on my couch if you paid me.
Are you still arguing with Sig, Carl? It’s all about sex in the end as Sig says…
hi grandad. how’s Anna feeling?
She’s feeling me good.
you been at the coke again siggy ?
The desperation of the Labour trolls (both paid and freelance) and the deranged mentalists is hilarious.
It’s clear that this site is the nexus for their frustrations, and this can’t be a coincidence given the destruction of McBride’s and Draper’s plans that Guido caused.
I guess it gives us a good idea what Red Rag would have been like. Lovely.
Meanwhile in the real world, Conservatives getting 18% lead over Labour.
Depressingly though 24% ie one in four of the electorate are still so mathematically raddled they will vote Labour. One in ten I could understand – the mentally ill will always be with us. But one in four of the population are so filled with unthinking idiocy that they will vote to destroy the UK economy even further?
What kind of evil have we living amongst us?
One on four of the electorate either live on “benefits” or work in public sector “non-jobs”. Turkeys and Christmas spring to mind…
Don’t believe your own propaganda – you’ll only end up prematurely ejaculating again. One nation tories will NEVER accept DC as their leader (thank God – at least the older ones still have a sense of decency and fairplay).
Has anybody noticed how in older photographs of Scots people they always look very severe and dour? The women uptight and rigid, the men bristly-bearded and aggressive?
I blame the tweed underwear, personally.
Either lay off the Buckfast or examine history a bit more closely. Cameron is precisely what you protest he isn’t – a one nation Tory. It may be the guilt complex but it’s what Old Etonians inevitably are. Like most of the Heath and MacMillan Governments.
5p€d0 – I think you only read Labour publications. Try reading Simon Heffer’s column in the Telegraph and see what I mean. The Tory right are very sceptical.
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Okay I will do that – I tried to answer you in more detail earlier but I am getting my meesages bl0cked and scrubbed – sorry
Accountability and crowd behaviour changes things. If this blog is how people really want it then explain the mass exodus of the people who made more serious comment and didn’t get into rolling arguments. Whatever people believe or say the world works in a certain way, and that can’t be ducked.
People who don’t know this stuff tend to scream and high-five the loudest, until the place empties, and no new DNA comes into or is allowed into the mix. It can carry on for a long, long time. Then, a few cheerleaders leave and the thing finally empties. Like the economic crisis, it’s happened before and will probably happen again.
Be still, grasshopper.
Garbage.
Every time, two four-line paragraphs of interchangeable verbiage and then a short, meaningless envoi. Is Charles in fact a computer?
It seems to be a form of digital pooetry.
This is absolute twaddle. Make that appointment Charles. You need to see a shrink.
yeah, I’ve seen off loads of wankers like you charles, it’s happened before and it will happen to you.
oh, and as charles hardwidge has been exposed as a CIA stooge he has to pump out an extra load of his shit for if he runs away immediately it will show he is guilty as charged.
he’ll bugger off in a day or two. they always do when they have been rumbled.
these posts are merely the death rattle of charles e hardwidge.
excellent.
A couple more weeks until Hardwidge get’s his A Level results(this modular thing is great he only had to take each module 3 times to bump it up to hopefully straight A’s) and then he can bugger off to University of Central England or whatever to study Politics & Psychology and indulge himself in pissing up his bursary grant(well he won’t have to pay will he coming as he does from such a socially deprived background ?)in the SU Bar every night while trying to impress his public of other gullible Freshers regarding his undoubted erudition and zen-like qualties
Hello Paedo.
Still suffering from verbal diarrhoea?
what’s on your mind disrespectful foul-mouthed one?
the sleeper gets it wrong.
yet again.
what useless fucking wanker.
Pompous, pretentous rubbish.
Is that the grasshopper you are addressing?
Guido – with this article you have pissed on any suggestions I have made that you are a Tory stooge. Keep it up!
HAHhahahhaaa – fully paid up stooge – could not put it better myself!
Brilliant observation as ever. It is now clear that the NuLiebor party has brought this country to its knees once again. This time we have sunk as never before. So the Conservatives look very much like forming the next government.
For some this will be by default more than a conviction that they will do better.
Your continued vigilance to shine a light on all temptations to hidden troughing and defrauding of taxpayers will be much appreciated by the whole country.
“there is no such thing as a free ride on a jet…”
Unless its Ryanair of course.
Well done for your part (large or small, depending on whom one asks) in the Porkbuster successes. Your next phase sounds altogether more tricky, and potentially risky from a personal perspective. I’m sure Mrs Fawkes doesn’t want you to be the next Stephen Curtis*, so the (free) Tuscan advice is to steer clear of helicopters for the next campaign.
*One suspects she might enjoy the use of a castle though.
When questioned by the select committee the big bankers robustly denied their role in banking difficulties and blamed everyone but themselves. But, look at how fast they begged for corporate welfare when it’s their turn. By putting a deal in place the government is switching attention from the “authorities” and “high attention” earners who created and fueled this mess and are scooting through the centre. Really, this is quite masterful.
I generally think the business, media, and national culture shares the same broken fundamentals, and by bringing economics and morality together, and focusing on solutions and shared understanding, the Prime Minister will create a ‘New Deal’. There’s lots of Zen in all this.
Be still, grasshopper.
New Labour, New, New, New Deal.
I doubt if Zen has anything to do with it, unless he’s been brought in as an advisor.
It gets worse with every posting. I’d just give up now Charles, if I were you.
When questioned by the select committee the Gordon Brown robustly denied his role in the economy’s difficulties and blamed everyone but himself. But, look at how fast he begged for allowances to clean his brother’s flat. By not putting a deal in place Gordon Brown is switching attention from the government who created and fueled this mess and are scooting through the centre. Really, this is quite pathetic.
I generally hate Great Britain because I am an american and I think the business, media, and national culture shares should all be owned by american companies. By failing to bring economics and morality together, and by failing to focus on solutions and shared understanding, the Prime Minister will do as his american masters demand to create a ‘New Deal’. In other words the americanisation of Great Britain. There is no Zen in all this at all.
It is merely american imperial fascism being facilitated by Brown.
Be still, grasshopper.
I thought there was admission at the select committee hearing that the bankers could have done more. Others carry some of the blame, Gordon in particular for his ignorant, cack handed tinkering that gave us the tripartate banking non control system.
Everything touched by the socialist slavery Labour party’s brand of morality is indelibly stained. How can it not be when the only moral is the pursuit of power.
The action that would bring more Zen influence to the situation would be hitting Brown over the head with The Three Pillars.
Hop along grasshopper, lawnmower approaching.
Jesus, Guido, you’re not surprised are you?
A professional politician avidly licking the anus of a deeply dubious multi millionaire, and trying to keep it quiet, while lecturing his party on propriety?
Daisy and his fags are no different from the current lot.
Get used to it.
No Jacqui. I’ve studied your aptitude tests and your Myers-Briggs. You’re incompetent and your personality is typically massively over-represented in the prison population.
Training would be wasted on you. We suggest you treat this feedback as a gift and pursue something more suited to your talents.
McDonalds need somebody to wipe their tables.
It takes a moment to change an intellectual position but 3-5 years to work that change deep into the middle brain as anyone trying to give up smoking or any other deeply ingrained habit will tell you. When the Tories start proving as people that their ideas and attitudes are genuine they may play a more useful role in governance.
The Tories won’t admit it, and maybe not even to themselves, but this is the effective death of the Tory party. Whatever they were today they will not be tomorrow, and that uncertainty and fear is probably going to throw them off track for a while as they get their heads around it. But, get their heads around this they must. They should be grateful for this lesson taught to them by Jedi Master Gordon Brown.
Be still, grasshopper.
Oh God, not this one again. Can’t think of anything original to write? Labour’s policies are getting like this.
Tired.
Get back in the shallow end Charlie boy!!
That lawnmower is getting a bit close. Sod being still….
CEH, I think you’re re-pasting your old material from previous items at a fairly prodigious rate. Isn’t Mandy rewarding you sufficiently well?
CEH. You and your inane witterings have aided and encouraged the socialist slavery Labour party to destroy UK democracy.
Tories may not be the answer, but you and Labour are the problem.
The destruction is such that even the Jedi would flinch at being given the repair Britain project.
Hop along grasshopper, lawnmower approaching.
It takes a moment to change an intellectual position but 3-5 years to work that change deep into the middle brain as anyone trying to give up smoking or any other deeply ingrained habit will tell you. The New Labour War Party have proved their ideas and attitudes not in the national interest and so they can play no useful role in governance.
Gordon Brown won’t admit it, and maybe not even to himself, but this is the effective death of the New Labour War party. Whatever they were today they will not be tomorrow, and that uncertainty and fear is probably going to throw them off track for a while as they get their heads around it. No one gives a fuck whether they get their heads round it or not everyone thinks the labour party are a bunch of warmongering c’unts. They should be grateful for this lesson taught to them by Jedi thick as thieves.
Be still blah blah blah I’m a boring american bastard.
Arn’t they all?
Poor judgement Camerhoon. Got caught. There will be bucketfulls of similar stories in the future.
You will all be disappointed. Trust me. 100% GUARANTEED.
Lobbyists talking to politicians – no surprise there, that’s what they’re supposed to do. Will they influence the thinking of leading politicians? Of course they will – the thing is, how much?
The Conservatives are currently less bribable than Labour, so may not need the bungs as much as Labour did. Favours for mates? Well, you would too, in whatever field of life you move in – but most of us have the integrity not to take it too far.
How far will Cameron take it? We shall have to wait and see….
Talking to lobbyists is one thing. A “dodgy” multi millionaire another “lobbyist” quite another. Seen his “public” web site? No, thought not.
No, I haven’t seen his website – and I can’t be bothered to look.
My point is, how naive is Cameron, and how malleable? We can’t be sure yet.
Whoops- OK, bang to rights – I’m Flymo!
I doubt conservatives are less bribable than newlabour.
Conservative party funds are currently (I believe) in surplus, with party membership and donations doing well; in contrast, Labour have debts of £18m (declared) or £24m (suspected) and membership at an all-time low.
Voters care about themselves and their families first. Simple. Not complicated. Everything else is window dressing.
So what does our future PM spew out with his boy wonder? Yes you got it in one. “We’ll increase personal income tax”. “We won’t rule out road pricing” “we’ll put on hold the IHT reform previously suggested”.
They are f’ing stupid. But then hardly any of the opposition front bench have ever done an honest day’s work so what do you expect.
God, where are the real Tories?
Whoever gets in at the next election has to balance the books (i.e make cuts). The fact that Labour won’t admit it doesn’t alter the truth, it just shows them to be contemptuous of the electorate’s intelligence.
Balance the books?
There is no cat’s chance in hell any party will balance the books in the next 20 years.
Service will resume as normal with jam today, not tomorrow.
There is no difference between McBroonsnot and Daisy. They are one of the same.
Despairing!
No government has “balanced the books” in a very long time, hence the National Debt. Taxes are raised and thrown in to a big bucket called “The Treasury”. Then everyone in the cabinet squabbles over who gets “first dibs”. Then they “spend” their departmental budgets with civil servants shoving lumps of money in all sorts of funny directions that nobody had thought of. They also spend money against “estimates” that are hopelessly wrong. When this is discovered they spend next year’s money or rob it from somehwere else, who then have to go cap in hand to get a “contingency” or “future spend allocation” or “S.F.A.”.
See, public finance in a nutshell! You couldn’t run your household finances like that without a debt disaster so why do politicians think they can defy gravity?
They’ve got too much money to play with.
I am indeed a four by two.
A ” Marrano” if you like.
This Scotish name is just a cover.
I may be against 4x4s but I love 4x2s
Spaedo, could you tell your colleagues that antisemitism is out of order, please. If you must troll keep it clean.
Yes of course it must stop it is not fair – sorry cant do more I am getting messages bl0cked and scrubbed left right and centre – YES I AGREE WITH YOU AND I HOPE THEY READ THIS.
They are mistaking Jewishness for Zionism and the two are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT –
The Jewish people are a smart and talented wonderful kind people and I LOVE ‘em to bits –
but I disapprove of the Zionist approach in Gazza which most right thinking people do, including Jews). So BACK OFF critcising the Jewish people in their entirety and direct your attack FOCUSED at Zionism where it belongs.
Shalom
P.S. they are NOT my colleagues and I take some offence at that.
Maybe Gazza met some jewish people at that clinic he was in. wa
444 Hahahah – my boys had Gazza haircuts, I seem to recall!
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especially Nigella Lawson and Rachel Weisz
Nigella is nice Trev – I like that Claudia forget-her-last-name that was in stricty come dancing – dont know the other one.
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I have to say that I had the main lead on the banking crisis but have been reliably informed that nothing will come of the consequences of my actions because I, like most of the BBC staff, fully support Gordon and his trusty cabinet to ‘do the right thing’ by the British people. So, there you have it, straight from the horses mouth, so to speak.
I’ve never been a fan of the untrammelled power of the city and the damage it’s wrought. Perhaps, now this ego bubble has had some air let out of it, folks who do more meaningful things might get a chance.
As I’ve commented before, Ieyasu Tokugawa reined in the Daimyo and this began a period of trade and low crime that ushered in the Japanese renaissance. This moment seems equally auspicious. Vote Labour!
Be still grasshopper.
Fancy a spin, Grasshopper?
Better to use a pesticide. No further growth. Dead.
The Sleeper suggests that you go and live in Japan.
The Yakuza would have great fun with you.
I have always been a sycophantic fan of the untrammelled power of the city and the damage it’s wrought. Perhaps, now this ego bubble has had some air let out of it, folks who do more meaningful things might get a chance. That’s me fucked then.
As I’ve commented before, blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah. blah blah I am a c’unt blah blah blah.
Be still etc etc.
“Large rectal probe for Mr Hardwidge, please”
“What, is there room for another one in there?”
Tony do you have a spare one?
The first two got lost up there. FFS his anus is so incredibly large!
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
This is a better guide to the socialist slavery Labour party than any references to a Japanese shogun. Although Ieyasu Tokugawa destroyed all opponents in his pursuit of power(much like Gordon) , he put great store by morals and education.
Labour do not have any morals left in their DNA and are busily debasing education.
Do not vote Labour, you know it makes sense.
Hop along grasshopper, lawnmower approaching.
He’s having a bad summer. He’s thrashed his little weener so hard that I may have to get him sectioned, so they can drug him up and straight-jacket him for a few days in order to give that tortured cock some rest from his incessant frigging. It’s not easy looking after a person with Obsessive Compulsive Wank Disorder.
Aaaa there’s lovely…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8175444.stm
unusual cravings?
ummm, i wonder, lol
Eeeuuurrrggghhh. Too much information.
Chew on a Towel? Bite on a pillow, more like!
‘William Garraway Draper’ is a surprisingly classy name for persons from that section of society, not quite our sort and all that. It does sound like a Sherlock Holmes character though – The Strange Case of Mr William Garraway Draper and the Electrical Stoat.
Willy gerraway ? Sounds like a thief on the run.
Fuck Brown,fuck Blair,fuck Mandelson,fuck Smith,fuck Hoon,fuck Balls,fuck Blears,fuck Purnell,fuck Cameron,fuck Osborne,fuck Gove,fuck Clarke,fuck Duncan,fuck Maude,fuck Pickles,the fat fuck, fuck Cleggy and his seven dwarves,fuck the EU,fuck Brussels,fuck Bilderberg,fuck the Archbishop of Canterbury,fuck the Pope,fuck Mecca,fuck Israel,fuck the ragheads,fuck the Yanks,fuck the Russians,fuck all of you and fuck me. I’m now going to fuck off.
Well fucked, that man!
Fucking Hell.
Try a cup o’ tea, old chap. Good old British cure for most ills…..
sounds as if you could not give a fuck.
cricket starting soon, thank fuck.Ausies batting.
Thanks – I’d switched off – would have missed that.
5pm start – pleased I’m not in the crowd that’s been watching a sunny day try desparately to dry out a wet field since midday!
Yeah, my wanking hand is twitching just at the thought of it.
Sticky wicket – suggest you disappear behind the pavilion – we don’t want more wet deposits on the outfield, just had enough trouble drying it out…
No thanks, I’d probably find you there rubbing your crotch with a leather ball.
Sticky wicket – not I – more likely to find me on the terrace with a large Pimm’s and a slice of chocolate cake, listening to TMS. Enjoy your emission….but on your own, please.
You forgot to Fuck the Met. Office.
It’s been renamed the Wet Office.
Jeez. This guy’s got stamina!
Guido, you’re obviously a bad influence on Dave.
I se the politically correct arse hole donkeys who rule us are censoring the Union flag now. They’re a delicate bunch of flowers. Fuckwits.
I don’t want the English flag on my identity card (if it ever materialises). I’m a Celt, with ancestors whose countries were fucked over by the bloody English for centuries.
Apparently we English are Celts too, if DNA analysis is anything to shout about. We Waads are also descended from King Edward IV, through him the Arab Kings of Castille and thereby from the Prophet himself. We are also descended from the Merovingian kings, which if you believed that other charlatan named Brown would make us descended from the Son of God. Personally I think a man’s just a man and all that.
‘Twas ever thus – there has always been cross-border – erm – intermarrying.
It has been said that a common sport of the medieval Welsh – especially near the border – was to get tanked up on mead on a Friday night, nip across the border to steal the sheep and rape the women. (Sometimes, if they overdid the mead, they got it the wrong way round, thus starting another ancient tradition.)
Obviously, the good denizens of the English border lands took the huff, and arranged a return match.
Think of it as nature’s way of keeping the DNA distributed.
FACT: It Is Still Legal In England “To Shoot A Welsh Man With A Bow And Arrow But Only Within The Grounds Of Salisbury Cathedral And Only On A Sunday
Don’t Forget the English were done over by those blooming Normans. They were the ones that murdered the English ruling class. They were the ones who murdered thousands of the English in the “Harrying of the North”. They were the ones who despite twenty years of resistance carved the country up and did an inventory called the Domesday Book. They were the ones who with the conivance of the Pope took land from the families of murdered Englishmen and dished it out to “Prince Bishops”. They were the ones that invaded Wales and inflicted a Norman French Prince on them. They were the ones that turned Dublin in to a fortified camp and pushed the natives “beyond the pale”.
Yeah, Yeah, lets blame “The English” it’s so easy. At least in 1066 the English stood their ground against two invading armies within weeks, sadly they only defeated one of them.
The above bollocks demonstrates beyond all reasonable doubt that while there may be intelligent life on other planets there is very little on the Earth.
I think the Belgians may have a different view.
You’ll do what you’re told and no lip.
Peter Mandelson’s been very statesmanlike lately. His comments on leadership and presentation, and generally calm and conciliatory approach will be helpful. Mandelson can help secure that.
I’ve always stood for sound management and helped the little guy when I can, and taken a few bullets for that over the years. I’m deeply opposed to the thuggish and smarmy Tory party that’s been surfacing over the past few days, and building a better Labour will help provide that more attractive alternative people need.
Be still, grasshopper.
How can you stand for such SOUND Management when it is quite
apparent you are fucking DEAF.
I could agree with statesmanlike if you are comparing PM with Pol Pot. If not, no chance. Pursuit of power is his driving ambition.
It is a pity that the socialist slavery Labour party did not stand for sound management at the same time you did. The only thing heard now is the discordant wails of anguish from the abused British public.
Hop along grasshopper, lawnmower approaching.
That’ll be your beloved party of arseholes who have smashed their legislative jackboots over and over into the face of the downtrodden average ‘little guy’ in the UK then.
More bilge from our resident Labour berk.
Talking of bilge, I am forced in fairness to say that Mandelson handled the green slime incident very well – such style. There are not many people who could be so forgiving with green custard sliding down their face.
He’s a clever, devious man with an agenda we can only guess at.
Mr. Hardwidget,
Repeal All Labour Legislation brought in since 1997 and get Britain moving again.
http://www.talkcarswell.com/show.aspx?id=893
Use your superior intelligence and add your suggestions.
Peter Mandelson’s been very anti british lately. His comments on leadership and presentation, and generally treachorous approach will be helpful to his EU masters. Mandelson can try but fail to help secure that unconstiutional lisbon treaty for his EU friends.
I’ve always stood for piss poor, useless management and helped the very rich guy when I can, and taken a few bullets for that over the years. I’m deeply opposed to the thuggish and smarmy New Labour War party that’s been destroying the country’s interests and damaging its economy , and the destruction of the new Labour war and Torture Party will help get rid of that bunch of warmongering useless fucking c’unts.
I am Being still, stop going on about it grasshopper or I will stamp on you.
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
Fiscal incompetence = Labour
George Osborne = Conservatives
John Prescott = Deputy Prime Minister
Harriet Harman = Deputy Dog
John Prescott = lazy bar-steward
Handy Mandy = Gordon’s Boss
The Inquisition = Twat.
Darling = flip
Brown = flop
Taxpayer funded masturbation = Labour
If it was just PR would Freud be able to afford a private jet – No, why would any sane person pay him the sort of money which allows this unless there was handsome payback!
The British model tends to reward macho managers and zero loyalty. Cutting training, risk aversity, asset stripping, and hiring and firing are part of that noxious mix. The Japanese model tends to appoint, demote, or redeploy as appropriate. Another plus of the Japanese model is that any position tends to have a bunch of fully trained and experienced replacements beneath it.
Mandelson is able, loyal, and served a distinguished term as a European Commisioner. He’s developed maturity and proven himself fit for purpose. I’m sure, the Prime Minister took a similar view, and Mandelson was gracious enough to serve when he was needed. This is very respectable and welcome.
Be still, grasshopper.
Best jump, grasshopper – I’m coming for ya!
Is that you, Mark of CMS fame?
No – it’s me, I’m just a lawnmower, you can tell me by the way I walk
Shame his sexual predilections go against the word of God.
That’s Mandleson’s of course, not the grasshopper!
Borrrrrring! Along with pork cooked in cream etc……………zzzzzzzzzzzz
“Mandelson is able, loyal, and served a distinguished term as a European Commisioner.”
One has to admit the slimy fuck has done done well for someone who has already had to resign twice for extreme dodginess.
Or perhaps Jonah was desperate to cling on to power and chose the only hoon who could shore up some support for his rapidly sinking ship?
I don’t disagree with your assessment of Japanese work ethic but likening that to the crook you mention in your very next statement is laughable; as are you most of the time.
The first paragraph describes Brown’s government to a T.
I particularly liked the comparison with the Japanese practice of having trained deputies available, so unlike the GB government model with input from Mr. McBride.
Mandelson distinguished himself as a European Commissioner with the shining (sic) example of aluminum tariff agreements for , sorry with Russia.
He was gracious enough to serve his own interests by becoming G.Brown’s number 2.
Hop along grasshopper, lawnmower approaching.
You know what I am going to say, don’t you? CORRECTION TIME!
The New Labour War party model tends to reward macho managers and thuggish loyalty to war and torture. Cutting training, risk aversity, asset stripping, and hiring and firing are part of that noxious mix of the New Labour brand. The Japanese model tends to appoint, demote, or redeploy as appropriate. Another plus of the Japanese model is that any position tends to have a bunch of fully trained and experienced replacements beneath it.
Mandelson is able to rim his boyfriend, he is loyal to the EU, and served a distinguished term as a European Commisioner. He’s likes well developed bous whose maturity he misuses for his own purposes. I’m sure, the Prime Minister took a similar view, and Mandelson was gracious enough to serve Gordon one of his boys when he was needed. This is very respectable and welcome.
Be still lad while Gordon Brown stuffs his cock up your arse and Peter Mandelson sucks you off.
There’s more to the world than the pork scratchings and watered down beer the CBI and their Tory pals would offer you. If folks on the trash estates or serving crunchtime in some office can get a taste of something better, I think, the false promises of the Tories will lose their appeal. Only Labour can deliver that.
Jeez, let it go.
Be still, grasshopper.
Funny they haven’t tasted it yet and we’ve had twelve years for them to get a sniff.
At least something may be offered by the Tories. Compare and contrast with the socialist slavery Labour party’s approach of take take take.
Labour’s promises have not just lost their appeal, they are now recognised for the blatant lies they always were.
The country will feel so relieved when they just let Labour go.
Hop along grasshopper, lawnmower approaching.
Only me folks!
Got a few more corrections for you. I must not be so quick to hit the send button in future!:
There’s more to the world than the pork scratchings and watered down beer the New Labour War and Torture Party would offer you. If folks on the trash estates or serving crunchtime in some office can get a taste of something better, I think, the false promises of the New Labour warmongers will lose their appeal. New Labour couldn’t deliver a takeaway without fucking it up.
Talking of which I had a really hot curry last night and Jeez, I just let it go.
Be still grasshopper? What the fuck am I going on about, I’m such a dick!
Stealing material and throwing it back is cheap and lazy. You folks need to try coming up with your own material and being nice for a change. Cameron’s just as bad. Where’s his policies and sense of kindness?
Seeing you lot banging the desks and slapping each other on the back the other day was like a re-run of Tories sniffing their own gasses when Thatcher was in power. It wasn’t great then, and isn’t great now. Folks want their problems fixed and a fair deal, and the Tories mistake this trend for football hooliganism. It may play the same note but the tune is wrong. When folks clock this you’re busted.
Be still, grasshopper.
Imagine – three years studying PPE, then you end up paid a derisory rate to churn out this rubbish.
Must be a real let-down. Try McDonald’s – more variety.
PPE? Personal Protective Equipment?
Oh God no. Not a ‘safety’ guy. The fucking idiot time-server who’s good for fuck all so they send him on a NEBOSH course which any fucking plankton can ‘pass’ just like a dumbed down GCSE then issue him with a hard-hat, safety boots and a clip-board.
Oh God.
Explains a lot.
Politics, Philosophy and Economics – but the elfin-safety thing is funny…
I don’t think you’re taking this seriously.
Take it seriously? Are you serious?
P.S. to jgm2 – don’t forget the high-vis jacket, ear defenders, light eye protection and condom.
Stealing material and throwing it back is cheap and lazy. Is this the first glimmerings of Labour self recognition? It has only taken 12 years, but I guess we must be thankful for small mercies.
The Tories are not in power at the moment. All displays of hooliganism currently come from the socialist slavery Labour party.
Hop along grasshopper, lawnmower approaching.
Why oh why do I rush my propaganda work for the dear leader?
It is because I am american and it is very important we pump out as much bilge as possible to try to keep Agent Gordon in power.
Anyway, here are my corrections to the last post:
Stealing material and throwing it back is cheap and lazy. You folks need to try coming up with your own material and being nice for a change. Cameron’s just as bad. Where’s his policies and sense of kindness?
Seeing you lot banging the desks and slapping each other on the back the other day was like a re-run of Tony Blair the war criminal sniffing his own gasses when Thatcher was in power. It wasn’t great then, and isn’t great now. Folks want their problems fixed and a fair deal, and the New Labour War and Occupation Party mistake this trend for football hooliganism. It may play the same note but the tune is wrong. When folks clock this you’re busted.
Bestillgrasshopper. There, that makes more sense, doesn’t it?
Please let me go now nurse.
Since Mandelson became effective leader, Labour’s fortunes haven’t recovered. Indeed, they have fallen to new lows. It won’t make a difference whether the PM serving under him is Brown or Johnson, while this slimy and deeply cynical reminder of Labour’s past fortunes is in government there really is no hope for the left. Labour are as unelectable as the Tories were in 1997.
It’s a shame the Lib Dems chose Clegg, as then there might be an alternative to Cameron at the next election. As things stand, whoever Mandelson replaces Blair with, we will be left with Hobson’s choice at the election – Cameron or nobody. Not a choice I’m enthusiastic about.
Politicians are the sock-puppets of jews.
Evil sick child-killing Satanic jews exclude all decent honest people from politics in Britain and ensure retarded trash, like the filthy low-down slag, Harriet Harman, do their bidding.
Just one look at the unelected filthy evil sick Satanic child-killing jew, Mandelson, shows that jews are the evil cancerous filth on the Earth.
It will be wonderful when jews are being burned like rats.
Come off the fence Jim. Let us know what you really think.
said a Jew
Been reading the Protocols of the Elders of Zion again ?
Tell you what go live with Hamas you’ll absolutely love it.
That is unfair to Hamas – one nutter post is enough please and thank you – stay cool
jew.
Devil jews have had your arse.
Hi Scott
Most Of Them Arn’t Jewish You Fucking Homophob ! I Work For The Real Orthodox Jews and They are Good people and always pay on time !
jim the jew,
don’t self hate.
it is the zionists who are the enemy of jewish people.
oh, and that was the worst bit of zionist propaganda I have seen in fucking ages.
you must be stoned, right?
go easy on the skunk motherfucker.
“Schools and health have been improved, considerably.”
Oh MB, you naughty little boy. You’re being “economical with the truth” again aren’t you?
Or are you just a plain and simple envious, greedy, lazy Socialist idiot?
fuck off cobber
Too bad they couldn’t claim that ‘education’ had been improved though. They confused building shiny new PFI buildings on the never-never with ‘improving’ health and education.
All the health benefits can be laid at the feet of Margaret Thatcher for ensuring no miners ever again had to breath in coal dust (when they could be bothered to show up) and neither did ship-bulders, steel workers, BL employees and many others contract nasty industrial diseases.
Hurrah for Maggie. Defender of the common man. Slayer of industrial disease.
Bizzarrely though incapacity benefit claimants have soared under this government despite the lack of heavy industry to incapacitate anybody. Particularly the new generation of incapacitated women.
More cynical observers might suggest this government was rigging the unemployment figures.
JGM2
It’s like “steering” the Titanic around icebergs by holding a magnet near the compass.
Hey Guido – what are you afraid of ?
The Tory mentality and party tend towards power and wealth accumulation, while Labour tends towards learning and sharing. These are mutually exclusive at the extremes, and these extremes ravage the centre. Doesn’t matter if you’re running a country or a blog, once it loses touch with the centre you get a ghetto.
Gordon Brown’s personality tends to be like an architect. He values order, harmony, and patience. Cameron is more like the broken Anglo-Saxon fundamentals – a smarmy pitbull like the media, CBI, and finance that have so spectacularly exploded in everyone’s face. Folks need to calm down, then we need better order and a sense of balance, and patience. Labour gets this which is why I believe they’re the only show in town.
Be still, grasshopper.
Horseshit.
The first post was amusing, the second less so but I’m afraid by now the joke’s worn exceedingly thin, Charles. You can only get so far with irony.
The New Labour Occupation Party mentality tends towards power and wealth accumulation, while independent candidates tends towards learning and sharing. These are mutually exclusive at the extremes, and these extremes ravage the centre. Doesn’t matter if you’re running a country or a blog, once it loses touch with the centre you get a ghetto.
Gordon Brown’s personality tends to be like a demolition man. He destorys order, harmony, and patience. Cameron is more like the broken Anglo-Saxon fundamentals – a smarmy pitbull like the media, CBI, and finance that have so spectacularly exploded in everyone’s face. Cameron and Brown are a couple of dopey c’unts who need to calm down, then we need better order and a sense of balance, and patience. Labour doesn’t understand this which is why I believe they are the worst fucking show in town.
Be still blah blah bullshit etc.
Careful there parody Charles. You’re starting to talk some sense…
HFR seems to have resurrected himself as The big D…
A title which The Sleeper takes to be a reference to his appendage.
Hello Dick.
Sleeper, fuck off ya quack
*quack quack*
Hello to you too,Paedo.
)!(
Big D used to be nuts when I still went in public houses.
Were yer nuts salted in thise days?
Good Lord no. Sodium is murder on the BP.
I like salted peanuts but the wife told me cashews were less fattening.
Are any bookmakers taking bets on when Mandelson stabs Brown in the back yet? Obviously, it’ll be after the referendum in Ireland, but I wondered if anyone had any insider info on when Harman, Purnell or whoever Mandelson’s preferred puppet is takes over.
Mandys got form for stabbing brown.
Another thing: you can’t win an argument on the internet. Folks really don’t change their mind because too much ego is on the line, and correcting a negative just doesn’t happen. It’s why a lot of politicians just ignore the question and give a positive reply. It’s about what sticks.
So far, I tend to think the positive case for Labour is stronger than the Tories case, and what’s really lacking are narratives to describe that. Mandelson is great at stuff like that and, lets face it, the Osborne and Cameron narrative doesn’t exist in any meaningful way.
Be still, grasshopper.#field1_00000
You never mention the Lib Dems, ar the National parties. Why not?
Another thing: thick as thieves always wins the argument on the internet. Folks really do change their mind because tat is such a cool motherfucker, he is top boy, and correcting negatives is what he does every day of the week. It’s why a lot of politicians are scared of him and try to just ignore the question. But despite this desperate loser strategy a lot of what thick as thieves say sticks.
So far, I tend to think the negatvie case for the Labour War and Torture Party is stronger than the Tories case, and what’s really lacking are narratives to describe that. Mandelson is great at rimming and stuff like that and, lets face it, the Osborne and Cameron narrative doesn’t exist in any meaningful way.
grass make you hop not be still
Katich! TFFT!
I`ve been saying this before. I bet Julie Kirkbride and Andrew MacKay are involved somewhere.
They’re not just involved, they married each other 12 years ago. Try to keep up you twat.
Ever been had?
As a happily married couple I should hope they have, frequently.
Frequently!
infrequently actually
you know nothing idiot and miss the point. I was there!
You completely misunderstand. The point is that any dubious activity in this circle is bound to have attacted the tentacles of this dubious couple. No doubt the full truth will be coming out one of these days!
How many more times do you all need reminding: Cameron is a former Public Relations man. He enjoys being round them and the journalists he has known from way back. Now calm down dears and go and have a beer or two at your local. Toodle pip
About 5 more times.
NO Fucking Locals Left Mate Lie-Bore Have Shut Them All Down !
Dude, this might just be some internet wheeze for you but there’s plenty of folks who remember the businesses shutting down and incomes being screwed into the ground to pay off a few middle class shareholders. This isn’t just another round of Halo but real bricks and mortar, and real people.
The lesson of the past few weeks is that if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. The Tories will promise anything and can’t stoop low enough to get back into power. But, building real and enduring success doesn’t happen overnight. Only the spiv and the chancer will promise you that. This next election is a chance to break that repeating cycle of misery by telling the Tories to stick their lies.
Be still, grasshopper.
Again – no Lib Dems. Have you got something against them?
Any shareholder will tell you that the last thing they want is for the business – that provides an income – to shut down. They will forgo any dividend if it means the survival of the busisness.
For who will kill the Golden Goose that lays the egg?
These lies are becoming tedious. Please grant us a modicum of common sense even if you have none of your own.
I am not a Dude, I am just an arshole and this might just be some internet wheeze for you but there’s plenty of folks who are currently experiencing their businesses shutting down and incomes being screwed into the ground to pay off the debts run up by the New Labour War and Occupation and Torture party shareholders. This isn’t just another round of Halo but real bricks and mortar, and real people.
The lesson of the past few weeks is that if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. The New Labour war criminals will promise anything and can’t stoop low enough to get back into power. But, building real and enduring success doesn’t happen overnight. Only the spiv and the chancer will promise you that. This next election is a chance to break that repeating cycle of misery by telling the Labour torturers to stick their lies.
Be still, grasshopper.(that is starting to wear very thin – Ed)
New Labour have hijacked the far rights quite legitimate grievances and by announcing a British jobs for British workers campaign seek to divert support that would otherwise have gone to the far right. The anger resentment and bitterness of the forgotten white working class can therefore be harnessed into producing an astounding Labour victory. This Gordon Brown policy is as clever as it is cynical and is of course not without risk but Gordon will use his great skills to achieve victory and disown the this repellent cause following election triumph. The far right and its working class will be Labours vehicle for success leaving David Cameron and his whimsical party heading for a fourth defeat.
Be still, grasshopper
Charles! You’ve bitten through the toilet roll holder again! How many times do i have to tell you, put the rubber mouth guard in before going to the bathroom. And take that gimp outfit off! Your tea will be ready soon.
You have my sympathies Mrs Hardwidge. Our lad had a prolonged bout of projectile diarrhoea when he came back from Bankok. We have to pretend it’s part of the wallpaper pattern – with matching curtains. We keep the little buggar chained up in the shed now.
I believe Lord Mandlesprocket has had Brown’s belt and laces taken form him lest he resorts to self-harm. The man is ga-ga and needs to be put out to grass.
New Labour have ignored British workers because of EU directives. The anger resentment and bitterness of the forgotten white working class has therefore been allowed to be harnessed by the fascist party. Gordon Brown’s open door immigration policy is as deeply damaging to the cohesion of the country as it is cynical and is of course not without risk but Gordon will continue to ignore British people because he is a Scottish inbred who is loyal to America and the EU rather than to the citizens of Great Britain.
I am still American and grasshopper is designed to annoy and wind you limeys up.
The Tories have too much yang. One merely needs to sit back and watch the bubble deflate of its own accord. The more they try to defend their position the more they’ll pile on yang, so the wise Tories will try and hack Cameron down as the Republicans did with the ludicrous bail out plan. Of course, this will leave them in disarray as all their clever schemes and secret plotting unravels. This is what happens when you mortage your ego at a rate that reality can’t afford to underwrite.
Alistair Darling is correct to reflect my earlier sentiment that government must connect with the people, and their calm and patient approach gets behind that. Ideolgical ranting and handwaving to the gallery is just so much rocking of the boat. Better to let go of all that and just coast along, developing from the ground up, making sure everything is joined together, and allowing success to unfold of its own accord.
Be still, grasshopper.
Nice legs, grasshopper…
What would Alaistair do without you, Charles. I’m sure he wouldn’t be where he is today if it weren’t for you.
Surprised you’re not in the Cabinet. Why is that?
You know Charles I have just returned fromn the centre of town (a small touristy market town). I had decided to partake of a pint of ale, as is my wont.
Sitting there outside the Drunken Ferret, taking in the thin rays filtering through the rain clouds I was at peace with the World. Then for some reason it occurred to me that my little knapsack would be better placed on the ground rather than in the vacant chair opposite. After all, a vagrant, chav or immigrant gypsy could so easily grab the thing and make off. My legs are not so young as once when I was a fly half.
So I placed the bag at my feet.
Whereupon the Jack Russell Terrier at the neighbouring table ambled over and peed on the bag. In my alacrity I was consumed with this incredible overwhelming thought….
Surely this is, or maybe is not, the perfect metaphor for the distinction between New Labour and Conservatism? I think it is and I defy you to provide a better one.
So I can only conclude, vote well and vote wisely when PM Brawn deems it necessary for us so to do.
You know Charles I have just returned from the centre of town (a small touristy market town). I had decided to partake of a pint of ale, as is my wont.
Sitting there outside the Drunken Ferret, taking in the thin rays filtering through the rain clouds I was at peace with the World. Then for some reason it occurred to me that my little knapsack would be better placed on the ground rather than in the vacant chair opposite. After all, a vagrant, chav or immigrant gypsy could so easily grab the thing and make off. My legs are not so young as once when I was a fly half.
So I placed the bag at my feet.
Whereupon the Jack Russell Terrier at the neighbouring table ambled over and peed on the bag. In my alacrity I was consumed with this incredible overwhelming thought….
Surely this is, or maybe is not, the perfect metaphor for the distinction between New Labour and Conservatism? I think it is and I defy you to provide a better one.
So I can only conclude, vote well and vote wisely when PM Brawn deems it necessary for us so to do.
But Charles,your beloved party continue to state that the Tories have no policies,yet you criticise them for policies which do not exist.
Explain
Let’s start a game. each person has to tell a baseless lie about the previous person. I’ll start.
David Davis is secretly a giant reptile from the planet Squ0rdzz Zeta.
I’ve never met Sir William Waad! And anyway it was dark.
P Mandelson is a raving poooofta
Brazilian Wax Artiste is working at Madame Tussaud’s
Speedo shorts is a Piss Soaked Tramp From The Gutters oF Glasgow ! Oh sorry you didn’t Want the Truth !
What a pity your once interesting blog has metamorphasised into a really boring exscuse of a blog now. Do u pay hardwidge to blog to improve your stats?
Please get back to interesting debate and comment. You know what you need to do. Why do all this work and pay the associated costs for this blog just to prove that care in the community is not working?
Hear hear. I’m off.
It’s the silly season, and those who can still afford it are mostly on holiday, including our host.
Sadly, trolls don’t seem to know what holidays are.
The problems with the British economy were down to management and workers fighting between each other. British managment was largely tired by that point in time and didn’t have much to offer. The later boom was mostly asset stripping and opening up of the country to inward investment and products from Europe and Asia.
Britain needs to develop a better sense of looking forward, cooperation, and getting over its quarter to quarter mentality. The city has sucked talent from industry and laid waste to countless communities, but better quality business plans, solidarity in work and communities, having the stretch to go the last yard and a Labour government can make that promise a reality.
Be still, grasshopper.
How will they do that?
The problems with the New Labour War Party were down to Gordon Brown and Tony Blair (war criminals) fighting between each other. The New Labour War Cabinet was largely tired by that point in time and didn’t have much to offer. The later boom was mostly asset stripping and opening up of the country to inward investment and products from Europe and Asia.
New Labour needs to fuck off and die and get over its quarter to quarter mentality. Labour has sucked talent from industry and laid waste to countless communities, because of its terrible quality business plans, lack of solidarity in work and communities. If we use every last yard of rope to hang these Labour c’unsts it is okay and we should concentrate on making that promise a reality.
Be still, grasshopper.
The union flag has been banned from Britain’s new identity card in case it offends the nationalist community in Northern Ireland.
The cards will feature the royal coat of arms, alongside discreet images of a rose, thistle shamrock and daffodil representing the four countries of the UK.
A Government impact assessment states that the ID cards must respect the ‘identity rights’ of Irish nationalists in Ulster, meaning that the designers ‘sought to avoid symbols such as flags.’
But the absence of the national flag has drawn a furious response from Unionists who called the design a ‘giant mistake’, and urged a boycott of the scheme.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1203266/ID-cards-display-union-flag-avoid-offending-Irish-nationalists.html#ixzz0MlltrXRG
this is how much liebour hate the english and the union.
upset any one else but not the irish or any other ethnicity.
tthere is no other word for this liebour government other than traitors.
The Union flag isn’t English and neither are the Unionists in Ireland.
you dont say, you’re so clever, another first class honours liebour degree?
up yours
Labour can shove the ID card up their Arse with my out of date TV licence.
Folks need to get that between goals and outcomes lies a thing called process. It can take time to understand and fix a problem. Rushing things just lays the ground for another nightmare. It’s a truism of martial arts that the inexperienced tend to force or rush things. They only hurt themselves or land on their ass. Better just relax and take it as it comes.
So far, I tend to think the positive case for Labour is stronger than the Tories case, and what’s really lacking are narratives to describe that. Mandelson is great at stuff like that and, lets face it, the Osborne and Cameron narrative doesn’t exist in any meaningful way.
Be still, grasshopper.
Charles you could talk a hind leg off a donkey.
Draw breath, go contemplate your navel or get a glass of claret and relax.
Did you know that Julie Kirkbride is the daughter of a Halifax lorry driver? Or that a former boyfriend was the Eastleigh MP who accidentally topped himself whilst doing unwise things with oranges? I think her root problem is being attracted to the wrong kind of man.
What the fuck has Roland Rat got to do with all of this? Isn’t he on breakfast TV?
I thought he had to resign following the Gilligan affair.
BEcclest*one ran into difficulties earlier this month over his remarks that ‘Hitl*r had the ability to get things done’.
A close friend of Bernie’s is M*x Mos*ley.
Bernie hired Roland’s PR company to dig him out of his hole. Roland boasts mandy as godfather to one of his children.
As a tory supporter I don’t like the web that these links lead into.
I hope Dave is watching his back and making sure his PR people are being extra open about the nature of his links with these people.
Surely any senior politician worth his or her salt should know exactly where the big PR companies and lobbyists are coming from, and deal with them accordingly.
Obviously, there are some politicians that fall below acceptable standards – the Lords found taking bribes (in effect) recently, and corruption of that nature needs flushing out (odd how they were Labour Lords, though).
I get an unsettled feeling that what we are dealing with here is ‘wheels within wheels’.
We have to remember that Bernie gave £1million to Labour and shortly after F1 was exempted from the tobacco advertising legislation.
If we thought MP’s and Lords expenses was a snake pit – I suspect this one is more likely to be one of those gladiator circus’s that the Romans used to stage.
Caeser’s Wife would know more about that perhaps.
The unsettling bit is that we know so little about this murky world. The dark arts of political influence are nothing new, of course – there have always been those seeking influence, and those exercising influence in one way or another.
One of the advantages of the elected House of Commons debating and voting on legislation is that it makes it difficult for the influencers. They might convince, bribe or blackmail a minister or two, but fixing a majority in the house would be difficult. Fixing an unelected EU Commissioner or two might be rather easier – another reasdon for keeping the EU at arm’s length.
And that, of course, Eng brings in the EU – a body completely lacking transparency – and the murky influence of people like mandy who were /and probably still are, heavily involved in the EU.
Let’s not forget that mandy already had strong links with Deripaska when mandy was a European Commissioner.
And let’s not forget that Deripaska made significant profits from the EU at the time of his friendship with mandy.
And Mandy, on his return from the EU, was able to purchase a £2.5m (approx) swish appartment in one of the more upmarket parts of the West End. Of course, I’m quite sure all the funds were legitimately earned…..
Its interesting , no one is posting re post , (Hardwidge phenomenon)
guido , would you do one on troughing and bad hedge fund managers in the city ???
this new venture into the deal fixers and spin meisters is very interesting , more so with the russian oligarcs , the international flavour of these super corporations , makes the foreign office unimportant .The politics PR business does need exposing , but how do you discover the undeclared cash of favour.
Be careful what you suck , be careful whom you bite
I always thought Cameron was chaff but he will gain by the absolute hate for New Labour and Brown, thus we may be destined to make the same mistakes as before.
I agree with TaT to vote independent but peoples fear of Labour getting in by default is so great they wont take the chance on a true honest politician.
Scientists are now saying that there is no difference whatsoever between organic food and products grown by conventional methods.
I beg to differ, how about the price, Huhnes…
Thinking about it, ‘conventional’ methods have only been conventional for about 70-80 years or so, since bulk artificial fertilizers have been freely available. Prior to that, pretty well all agriculture and horticulture was organic – though they didn’t call it that, it was conventional.
If artificial fertilizers, insecticides and herbicides were to become scarcer or more expensive for some reason, would organic become conventional?
The ‘authorities’ didn’t say that. They said that ‘it has been proven that organic food isn’t any more nutritious than non-organic food’. Personally I always buy organic food, not because it is more nutritious, but because it doesn’t contain insecticides and other dangerous pesticides etc. Non-organic meat contains antibiotics and other drugs, and the rearing of animals is healthier and much kinder when organic, and the countryside is not threatened by destruction of the water table and soil by the addition of dangerous substances.
The above aimed at CEH.
barefootcontessa,
You are being ignorant. All food contains insecticides. They are produced by fruits and vegetables in response to attack from insects etc.
Organic food contains much more of these substances because the fruits and vegetables are not protected by external insecticides.
sorry Aunty C, you’re only half right. (And, obviously, half wrong). The biocides produced by plants have been around for millenia. Over time we selected food plants producing biocides we could tolerate, and eventually we became dependent on them. The flavonoids, vanilloids, glucosinolates etc – they are all patently important for our health, and there is a rapidlt developing science which shows that they reduce the risk of degenerative disease.
The yield on organic food per acre is also lower so to produce the same amount of fruit or vegetables actually requires more water etc.
I commented that this recession was a mere blip and the global economic situation was doable. After the chaos and despair of the past few weeks has show how little some folks understand economics, and how little character they have, it’s no surprise the Prime Minister is looking pleased. Simply, by delivering on the issues and being unflappable he’ll ship a sound product and do an endrun of the flim-flam. You wanted change? Nothing sells like a demonstration.
Be still, grasshopper.
I’m beginning to feel sorry for you – are you a student being exploited by TWatson and his henchman for a minimal wage? And is that grasshopper your only friend?
Sad. Your mother needs to take a more active interest in your social life. May I suggest pilate,yoga, a local swimming club and gym for a start. A good way to get fit and make new friends. Of course your false friends TWatson and Damian will tell you that exercise is for fools. You must trust the evidence before your eyes on that one.
Will this wind be so mighty as to lay low the highest mountain?
Would that be a scottish mountain that gordon is going to climb very soon?
The weather has certainly turned rather nasty given that the Met Office was trying to spin Climate Change and long hot summers in preparation for gordon’s Copenhagen Conference hasn’t it?
Oh just fuck off you fucking useless twat
I’ve had a bad day and don’t need your endless fucking witterings
piss off to labourlist where you belong shitface nazi bastard
Just ignore it – or use it as fodder for pisstaking. It’s computer-generated garbage, anyway. I suspect even the sad so-and-so who generates it believes not a word of it. Don’t let it get to you.
Have a bit of sympathy for the poor grasshopper – it must be getting cramp staying so still.
The grasshopper has been overwhelmed by a gang of ants, had its wings chewed off and is now being transported back to the nest for the formicaedic (?) equivilent of a hog roast.
Cue ethnic ant drums, bright ant faces flickering in the flames of the BBQ pit and Fuckwidge’s ‘still’ grasshopper getting tossed on the coals.
Poor old grasshopper has had a tough time of it today. It spent most of he afternoon being chased by lawnmowers, now the ants have got it. Another Nulab failure…
Mmm Mr Speaker, the grasshopper’s problems started in America….
Folks can rant and rave, stamp their feet, and run around in circles but it just attacks funk with funk, the problem gets bigger and bigger, and they end up tearing themselves to pieces. The internal market of the mind is the same as the financial markets. So, by doing different ourselves we can effect change in ourselves, and what goes around. Instead of project chaos and fear, we project order and harmony. As we change our perception and the world around us changes.
Be still, grasshopper.
Jeez, let it go.
Charlie I have read that twice. Your sentences do not make sense.
Of course I appreciate that your paragraphs are written by damian or alastair so that all you do is post them by hitting a button.
Perhaps Al or Dam had inbibed a little too much at the time these particular paragraphs were being put together.
Jazz Funk baby.
By the way something really fucking big hit Jupiter this week and left a scar on its surface equivalent in size to one of Cherie Blairs Butt cheeks.
Probably just an arsetroid.
Why is the internet littered with normally peace loving buddhists telling you to f*ck off Charles?
Rant not !
Stamp not !
Jesus let it go!
“Folks can rant and rave, stamp their feet, and run around in circles but it just attacks funk with funk, the problem gets bigger and bigger, and they end up tearing themselves to pieces”
Now watch this drive!
I have to ask the question – why is CEH able to dominate so much of this blog?
He starts almost every new line with his obsessive nonsense and we all know it’s labourlost – why???????????????????????????????????
I hope Guido sorts him/it out, I suggested going back to the old comments format.
Just out of mischief, I thought I’d ask LabourList to take its trolls back. The following is my post and the replies I received.
I’m here to make a polite request to NewLabour supporters on this blog.
Will you please call your trolls off? Those of us venting our spleen at the state of this country over at order-order are growing very weary of the endless drivel, abuse and flamebaiting being executed in what seems to be a concerted campaign in the name of New Labour aimed at making order-order both unpleasant and unusable.
The fact that their tactics merely serve to make this government appear even more grotesque, corrupt and shoddy does not appear to occur to them. So, if you must send trolls please send literate and thoughtful ones prepared to engage in debate. Oh, whoops, then they wouldn’t be trolls.
PT Barnum, ex-Labour Party Member, RIP John Smith
PT Barnum @ 11:44 pm, Wed 29th Jul 2009
Well, there are a fair few nuLabour articles. But there’s no sign whatsoever that the authors of them actually read the comments!
I don’t think any of the frequent posters here are “New Labour” – it seems to be an equal mix of Labour-ish (but definitely anti-nuLabour) and assorted trolls, bigots and nutters.
Nick Weeks @ 12:04 pm, Thu 30th Jul 2009
In case you hadn’t noticed you’re the ones on our blog. You’re not welcome. You’re just here to be nasty. Go away.
Dan McCurry @ 11:52 am, Thu 30th Jul 2009
Seconded.
Peter Jukes @ 12:25 pm, Thu 30th Jul 2009
Charles – not uniquely – is ‘anally educated’ – beyond his own common sense
Flatter him – and he’ll go away
Tell him that you understand and agree with all he says
Bye Charles
You folks do realise this government has done a lot to push things through that people wanted by consensus, and refactored whole chunks of law? But, that doesn’t fit with the “authoritarian” and “out of touch” propaganda.
I’m no particular fan of multi-party “democracy”. It just encourages tribalism, nosiness, and waffle. Less competitive behaviour, or “positioning” and “populism”, would help at a fundamental level. That’s not a governance or party issue, that’s a personal issue. You can’t make any decision while you’re wound up or emotionally raging. “Calm” doesn’t sound much of a plan but it has to happen before anything else. Folks want complicated stuff and instant solutions but that’s just habit and neediness.
Be still, grasshopper.
You mean – Charles – things like :-
FOXHUNTING
&
BADGER CULLING
Both will be re-introduced when DC gains power
The countdown to sanity STARTS HERE
Too right. Death to the foxes. The fuckers eat all my rabbits before I can shoot ‘em and cook ‘em up. The rabbits. Not the foxes.
Although if you were hungry enough I’m sure a fox stew would go down a treat.
Fox stew? I feel a fox hat gag coming on…
I gather the trick is long, slow cooking. (Badger responds similarly, apparently.) Also, better with rural fox than urban; the latter’s diet is somewhat dubious.
Basted badger burgers – ah – those were the days
HEALTH WARNING
Take care not to catch TB from tuberculous badgers
Eng – have read up on some rather tasty grey squirrell recipes – we’re infested here and hubby has been threatening a cull.
Not much meat but I think they might make great BBQ curried kebabs.
Of course, in Aussie, the Ab*r=ginies would think nothing about eating Charles’s grasshopper!!!
Nell – I gather there is quite a project in Northumberland and parts of the Lake District to cull out the Grey population, as they are threatening the remaining native Reds, which are hanging on thereabouts. Part of the project involved getting local hotels involved in serving the culled Greys in various forms as something a bit different – not sure how well this is going.
There is (or was) a butcher somewhere in the Welsh marches that sold oven-ready squirrel, but I haven’t been able to track him down, yet.
Suspect you might need two or three per person for a decent meal, but what better answer to a pest problem than to eat it?
Eng. I would try it as meat if I got the chance.
Guess I’ll have to have a look on the web for a supplier.
The beginning of the end for the grey squirrell?
I wonder if it’s an analogy for the beginning of the end of Labour.
Well I do hope so.
It all started in America. The grey squirrel – Sciurus Caroliniensis.
you clearly are urban allotment lib dem voter
Clearly my friend!
Shouldn’t feed the troll, but…
The twat Hardwidge wants a one party state like China – very harmonious.
You folks do realise this government has done a lot to push through war and occupations that people didn’t want, and totally fucke up whole chunks of law? Which dovetails with the accusation that New Labour is the “authoritarian” and “out of touch” party.
I’m a big fan of a conspiratorial multi-party “democracy”. It encourages tribalism, nosiness, and waffle. It also causes competitive behaviour, or “positioning” and “populism”, which is divisive so I like that big time.
That’s not a governance or party issue, that’s a personal issue. I can’t make any decisions myself because I am a computer programme designed to wind people up and to cause emotional rage. So when you hear about me telling people to be “Calm” you know that I am just being a wind up merchant.
Be still, grasshopper. That is anotther thing I say to be annoying.(It is an old freemason trick)
The disconnection between people and politics is directly proportional to money sloshing around in corporate bank accounts.
Ironically, Brown’s policy of injecting obscene amounts of money into our economy has led directly to his own insignificance.
The current recession shows that corporate interference in governance is a road to ruin, and I am sure Cameron knows this. We shape our society by fiscal rules; a simple solution would be to treat corporate lobby expenses as benefits in kind enjoyed by the Directors of the said company, and apply Class4 National Insurance Contributions to these expenses.
A lunch should not be free, either for the giver or the taker.
Speaker: Order order. Questions to the prime minister.
Brown: This morning i had ministerial meetings,and this afternoon,i shall be visiting a newstart pilot initative in Liverpool,giving young people training in vital new skills needed for the dynamic,thrusting,economy of Britain,ready to take on the challenges of the global market we lead. New Labour. Real jobs for the next generation. (cheers from the government benches)
Speaker: David Cameron.
Cameron: Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker,will the one eyed,snot gobbling,piss stained,jock tramp opposite,admit to the British people,that he’s not only wrecked the public finances,but has also shown himself to be a shit scared excuse of a man,unwilling to face up to the judgement of the electorate. (cheers from the tories)
Brown: Mmm Mr Speaker. If that upper class tory toff does’nt shut his plummy gob,i’m going to rip his head off and shit down his neck. (more cheers from labour. cries of Go on Gordie!)
Cameron: Mr Speaker. I have to say to the prime minister that if you make one move towards me,i’ll ram that mace so far up your arse,you’ll have a new eyeball. Not that you’ll find it any easier to see any green shoots. (tories cheer and wave order papers. Hague shouts Shitt-er)
Speaker: Order order. The Members must conduct themselves in an appropriate and dignified manner. Prime Minister.
Brown: Thank you Mm Mr Speaker. As i was saying to that bag of hot air opposite,if he ever fancies a square go,we’ll take him and his gang on anytime. But i have to tell the house that he’s the do nothing leader of a do nothing party. (sits down and shuffles his papers as labour benches cheer and make wanker signs at the tories)
Cameron: Mr Speaker. Does the prime minister really believe that the public fall for the same old bully boy swagger that scared all the first year boys for so long. He’s a snivelling,snot nosed,smelly sack of solidified scotch shit. I know it. You know it. The benches opposite know it. Oh Yes, look, even the minister for education is agreeing! (laughter from the tories) But whats more important,Mr Speaker is that the British public know it. (Wild cheering from the tories. Duncan shouts Stick that up your kilt)
Brown: Mmm Mr Speaker,once again he shows that he has no policies,just personal smears. We are the party putting forward real solutions to deal with the real problems of the global rescession. He could’nt lead Britain. He could’nt lead Gary Glitter to a playground. (Sits down and talks to Straw. Woodward gives Hague the finger. Osborne and Clarke struggle to hold William back. May shouts Leave him Bill. He’s not worth it)
Speaker: Nick Clegg.
**** APPLAUSE ****
**** MORE APPLAUSE ****
standing ovation
****EVEN MORE APPLAUSE****
**!! APPLAUSE !!**
nick clegg :thankyou Mr speaker , would the house join me in congratualting my honurable friend and member for Montgomeryshire , for pulling an absolutely cracking bit of totty yet again proving the liberal democrats are indeed the only party of pan european titilation and frillies .
540. Charles – no difference betwen organic and other foods??!! Really ????
There are politics and money tangled here – much like Guido is talking about tonight.
You cannot accuse organic food of being unsafe – it is eminently, scientifically proved to be the safest of foods that we can access.
However the growth of it’s market share (currently £2billion in the UK), is winning it enemies in the Pesticides and the Genetically Modifed Seeds Industries. which the present Labour Government is supporting. I bet, when we dig, and we shall, we shall find mandy swimming around in there somewhere. (ie Monsant* D+w etc). BIG money!!
Food for thought – a scientific research paper for the American Academy of Environmental Medicine concludes that ” there is more than a casual association between GM foods and health effects. GM foods pose a serious health risk in areas of toxicology and damage to organs”
Why then is Labour supporting them?
Presumably there are some PR people somewhere pushing them into gordon’s limited attention span. . BIG profits are at stake. Dave take note.
Yes Nell, I thought the recent report on organic/nonorganic food was highly suspicious. I felt GM was lurking in the wings somewhere. Softening us up do you think? Preparing us for another assault on the British public with GM crops?
Yes!
I think I would be less sceptical about GM if it was just a scientific discovery applied to agriculture and horticulture. As it is, the aggressive commercialisation, and even more aggressive litigation hurled at anybody in the way, make me very wary.
I’m quite sure there’s a lobbying link….
See 682, Anti Citizen One, reply to my comment about organic food.
This was the big spin story of the day, ably supported by the BBC to tell us: shock horror, that organic food is no better for us than that laden with pesticides.
Trouble is, the study only considered the nutritional value of the food (i.e. calories, vitamin content etc) and did not consider the other crap like additives and pesticides
In other words: Breaking News: YOU CAN LIVE OFF JUNK FOOD
GM foods is a scam to enslave farmers into buying only from what the international agritech corp tells you .
indeed why is DFID spending uk tax money to supply African farmers with a technology that we have serious doubts about over here ??
welcome to the NWO ponzi scheme sold to you as progress
******BREAKING NEWS*******
Kate Garreway does a really big poo and calls it William.
Sperm Doner Derek Draper said,
‘I’m chuffed to bits. he has got a little peanut nose and sweetcorn eyes and smells just like me.’
When born burst through a polystyrene wall between her piss flaps and wearing a Lycra suit.
and you complained about what I SAID about babies – phah
Credit where credit is due,Paedo.
what part of fuck off don’t you understand.
What the national, organisational, and individual ego needs to do is get a clue about quality, how everything is connected, and how capital accumulates. As someone commented on the wasteful engineering and customer care approach by retailers, life gives you a free masterclass in excellence, or how not to do things. All you have to do is open your eyes.
The global picture hasn’t been too helpful, but the upcoming economic blip can help folks reflect and refocus. Mind is the root of all things. So, if decisions to go with the hot potential and retain employees is made, something new and a little sacrifice won’t seem so scary after all. “Getting it” has never been so easy. Why fight it?
Be still, grasshopper.
Horseshit .
Guys! I was comatose on heroin when I wrote that last post and I am sober now and have had a look at it. Christ Almighty, what a fucking load of shit. There is no way in the world I can correct that piece of shit so I am going to write off the whole thing.
Please disregard my last post.
Fucking awful innit!
I have just listened to the utterly hapless Ainsworth being interviewed. He is just a clone of the hapless career clowns who went before him. Here’s what Paddy Ashdown said:
“Four defence secretaries in three years is an insult to our troops.
That one of them should have doubled up as Secretary of State for Scotland sent a bad signal; that the newly appointed Defence Secretary Bob Ainsworth is only 21st in the Cabinet ranking is unprecedented and deplorable.”
It is completely nauseating to listen to these balloons and liars squirming and slithering out their weasel words as our troops are slaughtered by their callous incompetence.
There is not one shred of trust left, not just in politicians but in the political process. The only reason these young people sign up is because of the wreck this country has been made by Brown and his vile crew.
Yeh go an – take Paddy Pantsdown’s word for it if I were you – MORON go an, go an, go an
You will find that the young people signing up are paradoxically the few with the ambition to get the fuck out of ‘traditional’ Labour areas. One hundred years of Labour. The last twelve of them in government. Billions. Hundreds of billlions squandered in their client constituencies on made-up pretendy government jobs, shiny news schools’n'hospitals and still the British army is massively disproportionally made up of Geordies from fucked up ‘traditional’ Labour areas and Jocks from – oh – what a fucking coincidence – fucked up ‘traditional’ Labour areas.
It doesn’t take a genius to to see the death-grip on ambition that Labour has on those in their ‘traditional’ areas. You can see too how the manifest indifference to the military displayed by the most incompetent government since George III lost America will utterly annihilate them in their ‘traditional’ areas.
The SNP are going to fuck Labour up the arse in 2010. And the B&P likewise.
Maybe Labour are in power in Fiji and Nepal too because that’s where the rest of the roll of honour seems to be coming from.
Does anyone know what the deal is with members of the military voting in the GE? I know in the US a lot of effort goes into delivering the ballot papers, and that Republicans are especially keen on counting those votes. But does the UK have a system for this?
We really should be scrutinising not just postal votes, but the process for serving military voters.
Army people unsurprisingly tend to be patriotic, you could hardly accuse Zanu-Labour of being nationalistic or patriotic.
What is really needed in hell-holes like these Labour ‘traditional’ areas is the return of the grammar schools – here before anywhere else. It’ll work wonders.
This explains Labours hatred of the armed forces though. The ones who sign up are the ones who are not prepared to sit at home claiming hand-outs and voting Labour.
They hate anybody who doesn’t do what their father and grandfather before them did. Vote Labour. Because they’re the champions of the working class. Despite now 100 years of demonstration that the last thing they (Labour) are interested in is work. All Labour are interested in is paying people with borrowed money to vote Labour.
It’s the national equivalent of Shirley Porter handing out homes for votes. Plenty of non-jobs in traditional Labour areas. Lots of unfunded shiny new Schools’n'hospitals for their muppet MPs to be photographed opening in their loyal constituencies. Plenty of handouts to ‘incapacitated’ and ‘single mothers’ and the remainder of their bloc vote.
Figures rigged. Budgets blown. Lives destroyed.
And fuck the economy. Fuck civil liberties. Fuck the constitution.
Evil fucking bastards.
jgm2 is a fossilised dinosaur.
The financial markets collapsed themselves, all around the world, through incompetence, deregulated ‘free markets’ and corruption, which has brought on an economic crisis, all around the world.
It has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with social welfare, health or education.
A government is elected by capturing the votes of the average person, not the indolent. Not all people benefiting from social welfare are indolent, far from it.
However all in all jgm2′s bitterness is a gift to Labour because the country has moved on from rancid hatreds and stigmatisation. The average person wants nothing to do with sentiments and attitudes of that kind.
The country has moved on, really it has.
The countries moved on alright. Except for 24% of them.
The country has moved on from rancid hatreds and stigmatisation has it?
So I take it that you view the election of Mr Griffin and his side-kick as a positive development?
MB is just talking Bollocks. He used to do the same misdirection and outright lies and evasion on another blog until they threw him off.
Now we have him here. Deep joy.
But a better advocate for voting ABL it is difficult to find. Except for the peerless Hardwidge.
Note how jgm2 has moderated the bitterness?
Still jgm2 is a clueless fossilised dinosaur.
Imagine blaming the financial and economic maelstrom that is engulfing the world on unmarried teenage mothers?
How incredibly dim, yet typical.
MB, yet again your misdirection is misdirected. I’m blaming the UK’s economic clusterfuck on the imbecilic economic policies of Gordon Brown. The fuckwit.
Whereas all your energies are going into diverting attention away from the fact. Yo’re still fooling 24% of the population but they’re probably mainly in Labour’s Stockholm-syndrome ‘safe’ seats.
So how is it that the economic and financial meltdown is global?
More diversion MB. Seeking to conflate Bush’s idiocy with Brown’s idiocy as if that somehow lets Brown off the hook.
Nope. Doesn’t work. It would be like blaming Bush for the UK’s involvement in the Iraq war. Blair had only to say ‘no’. And, when the US government was slashing interest rates and borrowing money to avert a crash post 9/11 so as to avoid handing AQ another ‘victory’ Brown had only to say ‘no’. No, I will not slash interest rates. Nop, I will not stoke a housing boom with borrowed money. No I will not employ a million bedwetters with borrowed money.
Instead, his imbecile policies have lead us to a quadrupled national debt and the highest budget deficits in history.
All our own idiot Brown’s work.
Hence the need for constant diversion by the apologists.
Because the facts are damning.
jgm2 is not in touch with reality and always steers well clear of facts. The regulation argument simply does not hold water.
A burglar is a burglar irrespective of whether an incompetent plodding policeman succeeds in stopping or catching the burglar.
Similarly the thieving financial spivs in the over powerful financial oligarchy have brought about the current maelstrom through incompetence, corruption, financial ‘innovation’, magic beans and hocus pocus. It has nothing to do with the policies Labour followed or the Conservitudes would have followed. In fact (note fact) the Conservitudes refrain throughout the bubble was to call for less regulation.
However the important issue is what are the policies now that the fan and excrement have come in to contact with each other.
The Conservitudes would do nothing, which would have led to more public debt with businesses collapsing and more jobs being lost.
The government has followed the correct course. It’s policies are the most prudent options available.
Jgm2 definitely won this round MB! So I’m sorry to say you go home with the booby prize!
jgm2 is not in touch with reality and always steers well clear of the facts. The regulation argument simply does not hold water.
A b ur gl ar is a b ur gl ar irrespective of whether an incompetent plodding policeman succeeds in stopping or catching the b ur gl ar.
Similarly the thieving financial spivs in the over powerful financial oligarchy have brought about the current maelstrom through incompetence, corruption, financial ‘innovation’, magic beans and hocus pocus. It has nothing to do with the policies followed by the government or the Conservitudes would have followed. In fact (note fact) the Conservitudes refrain throughout the bubble was to call for less regulation.
However the important issue is what are the policies now that the fan and the excrement have come in to contact with each other.
The Conservitudes would do nothing, which would have led to more public debt with more businesses collapsing and more jobs being lost.
The government has followed the correct course. It’s policies are the most prudent options available.
I have carefully and meticulously appraised the present political situation and with my many years of political experience I have put my analytical mind to work using the same thought processes used to design the Graphic Fidelity chip. My conclusion is that by next spring Labour will be almost home and dry for a historic fourth term. The facts are irrefutable Gordon Brown is on course to pull it off.
Be still Grasshopper all is going well.
Dogshit.
.
If ignorant both of your enemy and yourself, you are certain to be in peril.
That is a complete pis*take. Now we know Hardwidge is in fact the devil’s advocate, but his mechanism has overwound and now he’s just being silly.
Students Union talk yet again. Grow up.
Anybody want a quick sparring round to help me fight off the tirednesss?
Think of an insult and double it just get the ball rolling okay
You turn now
You turn if you want to..The Sleepers’ not for turning.
The Sleeper knows of a man who’s Mother is also his sister.
Does that ring any bells,Paedo?
please see my sister post to this one where I ask you what part of fuck off don’t you understand. FUCK OFF
The Sleeper appreciates your pun.
But he thought you wanted a slanging match?
Where,pray,is your insult?
Perhaps you should ask your sister what relation to you she really is?
Or ask his mum? Oh hang on, you’re implying that they are one and the same. But that would make Little Timmy an inbred? And possibly feeble of mind.
It looks like the nedia is picking up on the structures and attitudes and as folks get a better understanding the mountain will turn into a pebble, the “recession” will look like the bump in the road it is, and the government will have a much stronger and freer hand to assist folks in knocking things into shape and building success.
If you want to know about philosophy, politics, and games, it’s all the same thing. As the old saying goes, the words may change but the poetry remains the same. Folks can get frustrated and upset, and Zen is a funky way of dealing with that, but the only real game is clearing the fog and experiencing life how it is, not how we might wish it to be.
Be still, grasshopper.
Vote Labour!
Vote for a bunch of rudderless aimless opportunists
although my father moved through depths of height and haves of give searching each morning ?
WordPress uses a great wee program called Hello Dolly that spews out the words of that classic song at random – it seems GU1D0 has paid a programmer to modify it and renamed it Charles E Hardwidge
The protestations against it are shallow and artificial – even I can see its repeating itself. Sorry to have spoilt the party folks.
Might be better to deduct a proportion of the hit rate claims to account for this fake poster — the advertisers would doubtless feel reassured by that.
I tend more towards the neutral. Sound purpose and a sense of context is important. Studying both American and Japanese cultures is informative in this respect. People could move beyond taking the worst interpetation and move more towards the better potential.
I don’t debate. I discuss. Debate is a winners and losers game, and I’m mostly focused on excellence, sharing, strategy, process and the long-term view. If the Tories weren’t so bullish and the Liberals not so fond of wagging fingers, perhaps, some positive consensus would have space to emerge.
Be still, grasshopper.
Ratshit.
Should Hardwidge fuck off? – discuss
I prefer a debate, with winners and losers. If Hardwidge loses, then he has to f**k off
bit lite for me !
HARDWIDGE.EXE has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.
First I think you should ban the tw@t who is gurning Iain Dale. Imbecilic does not even begin to cover it.
Second – so your impeccable source is a year out in his date. Very impeccable. Given the mass of connections this Rudd guy has – would it not be absolutely amazing if he had not met Cameron at some stage??
Yet all this warrants in your vast diatribe of a space filling story is a 2 line ‘UPDATE’ !
Sauce goose and source gander comes to mind. Cheap newsmongering Mr GF.
????
Are you TWatson????
Mint humbug on legs.
Bearing in mind the guy is on holiday, probably half sozzled, typing the piece on an old No. 10 Nokia using that bloody predictive text (like trying to catch an eel wearing rubber gloves it is) then I suggest it’s not a bad effort.
What do you want for nothing? Your money back?
Life is about ability and opportunity and, how we see things can make a difference. What looks like a bad thing can turn out to be a good thing, and so on. Mostly, Labour just need to embrace some Zen calm. Thus, opportunity will present itself. It was probably there all along but a quieter mind can embrace it more readily.
Leadership isn’t just about aiming for goals but, also, forming ourselves to goals. Winston Churchill knew this: “First we build our house then our house builds us”. I have no comment to make on the political issues with this but leave that as an exercise for the reader.
Be still, grasshopper.
Monkeyshit.
Life is about ability and opportunity as I have no ability apart from just trying to annoy people and be a wind up wanker then it looks like my future prospects are completely fucked. sometimes What looks like a bad thing can turn out to be a good thing but in my case I am just a wanker so I have no chance of succeeding in life at anything other than being a tosser. Mostly, Labour just need to just fuck off. Thus, opportunity will present itself. It was probably there all along but a quieter mind can embrace it more readily.
Leadership is all about aiming for goals. Winston Churchill knew this: “First we build our house then our house builds us”. I have no comment to make worth hearing.
Be still, grasshopper. I was beaten badly as a child and I am transferring my rage onto the reader by writing that fucking stupid bit at the end about grasshoppers(the c’unt wasn’t beaten hard enough-Ed)
I’ve sedated Charlie, after an earlier wanking frenzy, in which his hands were just a blur. All over the place, they were. Like an Octopus on speed. Then me having to stick a morrison’s carrier bag over my head as protection from the “spray”. Not nice, but you have to feel sorry for him. He can’t help himself. His hands are wedded to his cock, and he will not neglect it. But his enthusiasm has produced a blistered, shredded, weeping, red raw cocktail sausage of a weener, no use to man nor boy. Nor Gordon. When you go to bed tonight, say a little prayer for Charles….he’s a tortured soul.
you are my rock mrs nurse
Hear, hear.
May Henry Allingham, Harry Patch and their comrades rest in perfect peace. Their sacrifice was immense, but not, I hope, in vain.
Hmm. It seems this blog is under concerted attack by Labour trolls trying to bore us to death with Labour lies.
Lie-bore
Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Ho Chi Minh, Mao, Castro, Cousesceau, Honicker, Pol Pot, Kim Il-sung, Kim Jon-il – responsible for the persecution, oppression, murder and torture of millions – all in the name of socialism.
In the interests of equality and fairness I searched for a Tory dictator of comparable evil – Pinochet, Franco, Thatcher? They pale by comparison. Why is that? All Thatcher did was beat up the miners and threaten the Scots with poll tax – she didn’t fling hundreds of people in concentration camps or shoot Polish officers in the basement of a prison, one by one, did she? Could it just be that socialism is inherently evil and attracts the most evil shits?
What say Lie-bore trolls? Is this why we hate you? Because you support and promote an ideology which, for all its pretence, is evil incarnate? Because you articulate propaganda behind which lies hidden those chilling names representative of the worst excesses and abuses of mankind. Is there a single example of a socialist regime that was not built on suffering and persecution, inequality, oppression and corruption? Why do socialist regimes find it necessary to suppress free speech, to suppress protest and to suppress dissent, to use propaganda as a weapon against the people instead of liberating them with the truth? Why is the socialist rhetoric of the Lie-Bore Trolls so vicious and vindictive towards those who disagree with them and those they characterise as a class with the stereotypes of more than a century ago?
If I were you, supporters of a disgusting ideology with a history like that, I’d feel very ashamed and keep very very quiet.
I have left you a bottle of Banks behind the bar at the Ship Inn.Enjoy
Well said Derek. There are some peculiar comments tonight, clearly designed to detract from the central issues which you highlight. The lefties cannot produce logical and competent answers to your points – no doubt Shallow Mickey will mock! I enjoyed your comments and agree with them.
ed balls would make a fantastic commuist dictator , he just needs a tash
ed balls is a fantastic commuist dictator , without a tash
a quick word in your shell like – it ain’t just me the Cameron kid was adopted as well Shhhh!!
Shalom
Ed Balls would make a fantastic Communist dicatator – he just needs a blindfold and a firing squad.
Socialism brings out the evil in people because it requires them to “Do whatever it takes ” Sound Familiar ?
No, socialism is evil because it based on bad assumptions.
The basic incorrect assumption is that the state owns the people (rather than the people own the state). From this falsehood a narcissistic dictator with socio-path tendencies is guaranteed to emerge.
Whom ever do you mean?
Good passionate post from Derek of Barbados. Would that be the same Derek who is famous for his spontaneous limbo dancing at Bridgetown fund-raising garden parties, I wonder? No matter.
Apropos the regiments of spoiling labour party trolls and their fascist propaganda techniques (‘Useful Idiots’ as Stalin called them) let me put this to you as an illustration of the gulf, not between left and right, but between those on the extremities of politics and those of the liberal centre.
The relative ease with which a young socialist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa is well known, best of all to the propagandists of the two sides.
The socialists and Nazis clash more frequently with each other than with other parties simply because they compete for the same type of mind and reserve for each other the hatred of the heretic. It is happening today with the BNP. This simply shows how closely they are related.
The difference between socialism and fascism is merely a matter of time.
To both, the real enemy: the man with whom they have nothing in common, is the liberal of the old type. Both far left and far right both know that there can be no compromise between them and those of us who really believe in individual freedom.
Vote well and vote wisely when the time comes. It is the one thing the State cannot tell you as an individual what to do, no matter what the trolls say.
Hake Fried Rice uses a pathetically transparent and weak rhetorical device, repeatedly.
It is so fragile that it would be a shame to pulverise it just now.
Better to watch the pompous ego grow, then witness the putrid mess after it is pricked.
Master Baiter – for it is you – you can’t deal with the message so you attack the messenger. What next? Dead Baby shock tactics.
Wait for the prick.
I think the prick has already arrived.
touché Mr Catweazle, touché .
It will come, it will come.
These truly are the words of a Master Bator.
Newlabour were not socialists. Sorry are not, Freudian slip.
Hake-san speaks the truth.
It may be unpalatable to impressionable young socialists, but as they age and acquire a little wisdom most of them put their childish nonsense away. They either become decent democratic citizens or, ashamed of their youthful foolishness and embittered by the loss of their ideals, they become spivs. This latter group forms the bulk of NuLabour.
Hey folks – now its legal to kill me as a favour for my partial deafness – anybody wanna do me that kinda favour? (you won’t get prosecuted guaranteed).
Sorry – I feel very strongly that when G*d’s ready he will call you.Not for us mere mortals to call the shots.
Until then you should be trying to do your best to serve humanity as a decent human being.
Of course if you are TWatson, damian, edballs.cwheln, then you are going to try and be the worst of human nature.
The black face of labour – sad – but fact!!!!
allah will fuck your picket fence
I’ve told you before – he’ll get splinters.
Sorry but throughout it’s leftist governments that “euthanise” the disabled for the “common good”.
Yeah, and Francis Galton was a commy – go back to sleep AntiChrist
Well frankly – this lot in power couldn’t hold a candle to the WW1/WW2 generations could they?
Go to France and Flanders. Do the WW1 walk through Pozieries, Somme, Thiepval, Passchendaele , Jussy. Humbling experience.
WW2, Dunkirk, DDay, Monty in the Desert, those battles and what our soldiers suffered are equally disturbing.
And what are we dealing with today ? Mandy-type people manipulating the maximum financial benefit from their political influence.
RIP Mr Patch and Mr Allingham you are a thousand times better than today’s politicians.
Even worse, the freedoms they fought against are being handed over to the EUSSR for the private benefit of politicians .
In order to understand our selves, we must first understand socialism. Many an afternoon has been enjoyed by our family, bonding over the discussion of socialism. Though socialism is a favourite topic of discussion amongst monarchs, presidents and dictators, it is important to remember that ‘what goes up must come down.’ Often it is seen as both a help and a hinderence to socialists, whom I can say no more about due to legal restrictions. In the light of this I will break down the issues in order to give each of them the thought that they fully deserve
In the words of the star of stage and screen Maximilian B. Adger ‘Taking a walk across hot coals will inevitably hurt your feet.’ [2] This clearly illustrates the primary concern of those involved with socialism. It would be wise to approach the subject with the thought that ‘if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all’. However this can lead to missing out important facts.
Why did socialism cross the road? – To get to the other side! Just my little joke, but lets hope that socialism doesn’t inspire similar hilarity in the next elections.
To delve deeply into Gordon Brown is an exciting adventure. Many an afternoon has been enjoyed by our family, bonding over the discussion of Gordon Brown. Remarkably Gordon Brown is heralded by shopkeepers and investment bankers alike, leading many to state that several of todays most brilliant minds seem incapable of recognising its increasing relevance to understanding future generations. Inevitably Gordon Brown is often misunderstood by socialists, who just don’t like that sort of thing.
While some scholars have claimed that there is no such thing as society, this is rubbish. When Lance Bandaner said ‘twelve times I’ve traversed the ocean of youthful ambition but society still collects my foot prints’ he was clearly refering to the impact of Gordon Brown on today’s society. A child’s approach to Gordon Brown helps to provide some sort of equilibrium in this world of ever changing, always yearning chaos.
Did I mention how lovely Gordon Brown is? It has been said that the one thing in society which could survive a nuclear attack is Gordon Brown. This is incorrect, actually cockroaches are the only thing which can survive a nuclear attack.
Gordon Brown as a cockroach seems particularly apt and appropriate.
I encountered them in Spain – ungainly – unwanted – very especially unpleasant
Even now, as I think of them, they make me shudder.
I was going to finish my evening here but find I can’t do it on this unpleasant note.
Bunch of flowers and box of chocolates for nell.Enjoy
You are very kind. Thank you.
Bunch of belladonna and box of suppostories for Charles.
Is the basque seperatist movement some sort of drunken struggle with whale bone sexy corsetts
Charles I don’t know what youve got but I hope its not contageous.
If you think Gordon Brown is lovely you mus have caught his mental ilness from him.
try this for a cure. Go in a dark room and repeat until you are cured.
Gordon Brown is an evil dictator.
He caused the recession. He stole from the pension funds.
He gave away our Gold reserves.
Anyone with a thread of sence would have realised his actions and deceit when Chancellor could only lead to ruin.
As a PM he is a failure who gave people like Jackie Smith etc responsible jobs when clearly they were incapable and not up to it.
A man like Brown becoming Prime Minister shows how sick and corrupted our society is.
Still,mustn’t grumble.
WlmHague said Chilcott’s proposal to publish his report into the Iraq War in 2011 is unacceptable.
It sure is!!
Chilcott, appointed by Labour, obviously believes that he can bury tony’s sins by delaying the conclusions of his report to the far distant future. He also would like, by this strategy, to ensure himself, a lucrative couple of years.
The Chilcott Whitewash!!!??? aka The Hutton Whitewash!!!???
Don’t even think it Sir John!!! Ordinary people like me are watching. And we aren’t going to go away.
Good night. God Bless.
Mrs. Gentle will sort them out!
They’ve probably promised him as much aftershave as he can drink
Speaker: Nick Clegg.
Clegg: Mr Speaker. Will the prime minister accept that the chancellors fiscal projections for the year 2013 to 14,far from showing 0% growth,actually signal a fall in GDP of 12%,thus proving that his sums were done on the back of a fag packet during a break from barricading the door to number 11,in order to save his career. ( Muted squeaks from lib dems)
Brown: Mmm Mr Speaker. Once again, the right honourable member shows that he has no concept of real economics. He’s been listening to the gnome of zero, Vince the Mince,whose idea of fiscal policy is,I told you so. (Scornful jeers from labour. Skinner gobs at kennedy)
Clegg: Mr Speaker. We have consistently warned that the governments anti green stance would lead to serious problems for the economy. The failure to adopt Lib Dem vegetarian monetry policy is the reason that the prime minister finds himself constipated,with a borrowing turd up his arse the size of one of freddie flintoffs size 11s. (Lib dems wave both hands.Kennedy throws full can of special brew at Skinner)
Brown: Mmm Mr Speaker. Anytime Nancy Nick and his nine nonces feel lucky,we’ll have them as a starter before the main course. (genuine anger amonst the lib dems. Kennedy staggers to his feet and collapses among the benches)
Speaker: Bill Cash.
Cash: Thank you Mr Speaker. Will the prime minister,although he looks like a dosser in that suit,uphold the interests of gentleman outfitters of saville row,by giving the british people a referendum on the lisbon treaty. After all,we don’t want british politics sidelined by cheap EU tailors,undermining our national sartorial elegance. Look at the benches occupied by the government. They would make a good case for enobling man at C and A, and giving him a cabinet seat. (Laughter all round. Gordon fingers his shirt collar)
Brown: Mmm Mr Speaker. We will continue to represent the british fashion industry. Companies like primark, being a successful leader in classless garments,proving that equality for all is a beacon of New Labour success. He would do well to nip down there and get some clobber belonging to the 21st century, instead of looking like Bertie Woosters dodgy uncle. (cries of get back to the roaring twenties and forelock tugging from northern labour backbenchers)
Speaker: Dennis Skinner. (Pandemonium breaks out)
Skinner: Ey up. The rich git’s only pissed because the other rich git cut off his teat. tories! you can’t trust em. (sits down. pats on back from all round)
Brown: Only Dennis can state tory policy! (Laughter from labour front bench. Balls waves his knob at Hague)
By not falling into the oppositions trap of nitpicking and personalities, Labour is turning on a dime to ‘detoxify’ their leadership. The Conservative bubble will deflate accordingly, and the better quality policies and sentiments, and sense of hope Labour have to offer will create a compelling narrative. Most of the criticism and attitude in this blog is, mostly, illusion. It doesn’t matter.
I commented that David Cameron’s fingers slipped from the crown a few months ago. Now, as the arrogance and emptiness of his own unreformed party and the warmed over policies of yesterday swing into focus, the Conservatives are about to be hammered. That’s Karma for you…
Be still, grasshopper.
yawn
Yep, Hardwidge is just a tedious bore now.
The same bland dull parroted spin and talking points in almost every post.
His derangement was amusing at first but he’s clearly run out of steam.
The games up Charles we’ve been found out to be the incompetent frauds we really are,and have zero chance of ever being elected again.
So give it a rest will you as your really boring the fuck out of us!
When HMS New Labour sinks gracefully below the waves,Charles will be on the bridge,standing stiffly,while the gramaphone plays “Things can only get better”,and Mandy,Prezza and Kinnochio gyrate wildly in an attempt to pump some air into the bowels of the doomed leviathan
I doubt it. Mandy – the supreme chancer – will be on Yachty Debriaska sailing towards the riviera. Except he won’t really be there and would deny it if he could get away with it.
nice one socialist worker on B&P festival “stop this festival of hate”
wonder if they could insert government instead of festival for a change .
As ID cards has already hoovered up £200 million and police alledgey should throw the towell in arresting drug users , I wonder what next from the Home Office . Perhaps a curtious waiveing of theiving whilst in need of drugs , paying for a shag .
My My hasnt the home office changed since Alan Johnson took over , its law but not you as know it !!
in his proposed key note speech “these people arnt wrong uns they are just misunderstood” he outlines the new labour policy , that crime is a health problem and that victims of crime are moaning tory voters .
police to be issued with allibis and sob stories , to give offenders better advice when arrested “by letting offenders off at the point of arrest we can save millions in court costs , its a brilliant idea that will save the goverment loads od cash and improve our crime stats so that people dont believe we are moving towards a palermo society”
paying for a shag isn’t illegal.
Running a brothel is.
oh well could do with a few quid lie back and think of Rome it is then
I think you’ll find its euros and brussels,young lady.
wheres my husband when you need him
I don’t need him,but i can find a use for you!
People comment sagely about the recession but were quick to big themselves up while things were going well and trouser illusory gains from house prices rises. Meanwhile, the government has trimmed the excesses of boom and bust and helped create a more resilient economic climate. Apart from 20-20 hindsight and talking everyone into a bigger hole, what else have the Tories got?
As per earlier comment, people may like to consider the value of embracing the totality of issues, and removing cluttered arguments that get in the way of smooth recovery. Managing an economy is no different from riding a bicycle, yet, sophisticated and learned adults forget the simple but effective capabilities they had when they were a child. These things happen. Getting over ourselves is the first step to better times emerging.
Be still, grasshopper.
zzzzzzzzzzz
Monkeywank.
Heaven is Grrreat – never met ONE conservative voter yet and it’s all on the national health
BTW – Dad’s gay and I was adopted
Shalom
You are ONE SICK FUCK ! It matters not how much you hate him it has nothing to do with his children. GET HELP !
Sick.
WTF is wrong with you????
“What! A whole armful?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1203358/Brown-tries-win-voters-fair-play-pledges.html
Desperation. With a capital ‘D’.
Yep. Read the piss (sorry, piece). V. desperate attempt to gain votes. Brown and cronies are doomed, and there’s nought they can they can do about it!
“they will vow to stop foreigners having British organ transplants on the NHS as private patients”
This is meaningless. There is a EU-wide cooperation on organ availability, particularly in the case of very young children. If these “foreigners” are EU nationals, all this will result in is a tit-for-tat blocking of sharing of donated organs.
Make a scary headline about scummy foreigners stealing “our” organs and try to spike the BandP. Great.
More of an own-goal then. Labour has been in power for 12 years now. So they’ve been handing out organs to ‘foreigners’ for 12 years already. At least.
No doubt the B&P will be pointing out that little factoid to keepthe rebel Labour voters on-side.
so i keep being told that asylum seekers and immigrants do not get priority and that allocation of housing is done on the basis of need.
so if you a are a young adult living with mum and dad but aspire to a council house you go on the register. But you do have a roof over your head already.
but obviously if you are an asylum seeker or immigrant you don’t have a roof over your head so you are allocated a dwelling.
or if you are a young woamnd who gets pregnant and now have a baby, you need a dwelling to live in don’t you?
so de facto as we all know in reality, asylum seekers, immigrants and young mums with babies always have taken precedent over young free local people on the basis of need.
Liebour prefer to discriminate in this way. Who else makes the rules?
It doesn’t have to be like this, but they make the rules, so they are responsible.
MP’s of all parties can live off their expenses alone. They never do any thing to address this situation. Nothing will change even when cameron gets in. They will be too busy clearing up the shit again that liebour have left. And there are masses of it to clear up. Why shouldny I care for my own people? Scots care for themselves, asylum seekers care only for themselves, who is caring for the English?
Absolutely no one.
The Conservitudes sold off most of the council houses for next to nothing just to help further enslave workers.
No doubt if they get in they will bring back tied housing, that way they can really get their shackles on workers so that in a deliberately engineered downturn they can sack you and evict you if you don’t work longer for less.
The Conservitudes despise workers.
And we should sell any that are left.
“Council house cheats can earn £20,000 a year by sub-letting”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6734017.ece#none
The reality is that many new homeless applicants,like asylum seekers,are placed in private rental properties,with housing benefit payments meeting the cost. It can be a lucrative way of building a property portfolio,and the benefit to the government is that they can claim that nobody jumps the queue for public housing.
Society is a human product. The immortal and indispensable phrase ‘honesty is the best policy’ must have been coined in support of anti-capitalism. Spanning divides such as class, race and uglyness, anti-capitalism is crunchy on the outside but soft in the middle.
Special care must be taken when analysing such a delicate subject. On the other hand anyone that disagrees with me is an idiot. Clearly it promotes higher individualism and obeyence of instinct.
Jeez, Charles. You’re up early. How do you manage to produce great words of wisdom after a hard night on the crack, smack and wa*king?
That is the Blue Charlie. The Red Charlie reads like a cuttee pastee job from the communist manifesto.
More a cuttee pastee from Edward Lear’s book of political thought.
Hi DC. I know. Charles suffers from a severe schizo disorder. Red one minute, blue the next. Suggest he goes easy on the mind alterants!…
Prescott begging for money on his site
http://www.gofourth.co.uk/the-perfect-xmas-gift
but where’s the money going????
OT though just down the road from you, don’t you think ETA and Spain are like two bald men fighting over a comb?
Here we go – yet another “nice little earner” for Local Authorities and HMG – another “green tax” to add to the coffers!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/5942306/Motorists-to-pay-250-tax-for-parking-at-work.html
Is there no end to what these idiots will try to tax ?
I suppose its only a matter of time that the freedom to have a good f*rt will be taxed and Local Authorities will be recruiting f*art detectors to chase us round the streets – more “non jobs” to advertise in the Gruinard.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
They are also considering a tax on sexual activity. They are calling it PAYF.
Or, in my case, PAYW.
Came across this problem 18years ago in manchester we build a leasure center for children just off a main road so it had quite a large car park we were told by a building inspector “That if we marked out the carpark with lines we would be charge £200 per space ” which i believe is what supermarkets already pay on business rates but if you dont line it out you dont pay it ! goes without saying it never got marked out !
Another useless idea that does not stand up to scrutiny.
Apparently this will raise revenue for transport projects.
Since the whole idea is to stop you driving your car to work, there will be NO revenue raised therefore there will NO extra money and LESS money raised through fuel duty, VAT, etc.
It will only raise money IF people are prepared to pay the extra.
More self-contradictory Greenie crap.
The subject of Gordon Brown and courage has been covered intensively by the world press over the past decade. While it has been acknowledged that it has an important part to play in the development of man, Gordon Brown and his attitude towards courage is featuring more and more in the ideals of the young and upwardly mobile. Since it was first compared to antidisestablishmentarianism much has been said concerning Gordon Brown by the easily lead.
Our post-literate society, more than ever before, relies upon people like Gordon Brown. Clearly he promotes higher individualism and obeyence of instinct. As soon as a child meets Gordon Brown and they listen to him talking about courage they are changed.
mentally scarred for life.
Get back in the shallow end Charlie.
This is the piss-take Charles as oposed to the errrr piss-take Charles. One knows he is taking the piss whereas the other, well I’m not quite sure.
If it’s the same blurred-hands onanist who used to clog the blogs on BBC then there is a non-zero risk that he is a genuine nutter who believes he has something to say. And then proceeds to say it in the dullest, most pointless, most vacuous manner possible.
Charles yesterday revealed the reason politicians, in particular the Labour variety, never answer a straight question. Charles wrote “Another thing: you can’t win an argument on the internet. Folks really don’t change their mind because too much ego is on the line, and correcting a negative just doesn’t happen. It’s why a lot of politicians just ignore the question and give a positive reply. It’s about what sticks.”
This behaviour is best displayed during Prime Minister’s Questions. Let us take a politician, G.Brown for arguments sake, and apply this process. Mr Brown, for some inexplicable reason, has decided that he has been posed a negative question. Something along the lines of “why are you the worst prime minister in constitutional history?” or ” your reflections on your statement that a weak currency shows a weak government” or ” how many helicopters have been damaged by roadside IEDs in Afghanistan?” or ” why are you using a far right party’s slogan British jobs for British workers?” or etc.etc. you get the idea.
Once an inbound question has been determined as “negative” the resultant defensive measures are obvious; tractor stats on a completely un related issue.
Use this analysis against any political interview and you will see the correlation. Supportive question; positive answer covering all the mentioned points and praise for the talents of the questioner. Negative question; tractor stats.
Simples.
Yes Peter. Got it. Planted question – pat answer. Unplanned question – lies and tractor stats.
Got it.
Having ascertained the politicians inquiry standard system (PISS) is used for all negative questions posed to them ( see PMQs) we will now see if there are differences between the political parties in the way they use PISS.
The current government has adapted the PISS matrix and produced a tailored version that better reflects their views and objectives. Labour Inquiry Executive System (LIES) LIES is the system used for promoting government policy, major initiatives, cover ups where a D notice would be inappropriate, etc.etc. It takes the form of a statement that is blatantly false, but is repeated with a frequency designed to make people believe that (a) it could be true or (b) I have heard this before so it must be true.
This method was used to great effect at the start of the Labour administration, e.g. announcing new sums of money for the NHS. The figure always got bigger, but included any amounts previously announced. Another term was “ethical foreign policy” closely allied to “whiter than white”
The effectiveness of LIES has started to diminish. Recent examples such as “zero percent growth” and “enough helicopters” no longer gain the traction they once enjoyed. In PMQs, the LIES technique fails repeatedly and Labour are searching for a replacement.
The Conservative party have designed their own version of PISS. The Conservative Orderly Note System (CONS). The Tory party realised three years ago that the LIES system used by Labour left them at a disadvantage. The piecemeal technique of rebutting Labour statements produced by LIES, in a random order, was failing to produce results in the polls. The method used to overcome the problem was simple. Rebut the Labour LIES with answers delivered in a set order, CONS.
Remember at the next election, all political parties use PISS with LIES and CONS improvements when dealing with the public.
Some books, spot the real one!
“Courage” by Gordon Brown
“Investing for Dummies” By Bernard Madoff.
“Humanitarianism” By A. Hitler.
“Democracy” by Kim Jong Il
“Speaking without Autocues” by B. H Obama.
“The Zen of Tao” by CEH.
With the corruption that currently seems in evidence within all political parties, is it not about time we started opening our eyes and start voting for candidates and not political parties?
Yes, we will get more independent in the corridors of Westminster but hopefully we can begin to overturn this big con the public are falling for. If the ‘lobby’ can ‘bribe’ those in power after they are elected, we cannot claim to have true democracy.
Update?—–How long ago was the Osborne “yatchgate”?
Same day as the Mandelson ‘Yachtgate’ I seem to remember.
Agreed-but how long ago?
Good Morning you happy campers
I walked in on my mate having sex with his girlfriend last night. So, as you do, I walked over and stuck my cock in her mouth.
And as he was beating me to a pulp, I made a mental note not to confuse real life with porn.
I originally read that as you walking in on your mate having sex with your girlfriend and so, under the circumstances, I thought they couldn’t really grumple if you shoved your cock in her mouth.
But I see it was somebody elses girlfriend.
Don’t do that without permission Charles.
I can see how your autistic inability to discern correct behaviour has made you an embarrassment on these blogs. I hadn’t realised you were this bad in reality too.
I am increasingly sure that Mr Hardwidge is none other than Sarah Brown, and the above comment has just confirmed it for me. Poor thing – every night getting a turkey baster stuck into one, you can scarcely blame the old trout.
It’s allways Polite to ask first !
And get it in fast before she has time to speak.
OT
Japan’s unemployment at a six year high.
UK’s is at a 13 year high despite millions being hidden at universities on incapacity benefit and a million non-jobs costing 70bn a year.
We are doomed. Brown has utterly arse-fucked the economy.
Guido,
How’s the fund raising going,the one you hooked us on,to pay for a Private Prosecution against La Jacquiboots?
I have asked before,but you blanked the request for information.
Trouble is he’s not reading his posts much at the moment – so guess he’s missing the question.
I think it would be useful if there could be some sort of counter on the Sunlight site to show how the funding is coming on.
How many more weeks has he got in France? Best to ask this question when he gets back.
eh up lads , who ever has dinner with whoever aint my worry lad, what i am worried about is how good the lib dems will be as the main oppo party after the next election ( if there is one )
Never mind that, just bowl straight.
I think LibDems would do good as the main opposition party.
They look pretty good when you compare them to the shallow, ‘we’ll tell you any lie to get your vote’ Labour Party.
The Son of Steward’s PR Agency seems to have the troll account for this blogsite.
Nope – I think that account is being run by the old redrag team – aka TWatson, edblls, cwhelan and damian.
Gordon is planning to launch a campaign this morning to win back the middle england vote.
He’s going to promise to +stop foreignors getting transplants on the nhs + prevent migrants jumping the queue for council housing ( labour has already vehemently denied this happens) + a new points system for legal migrants wanting to enter the country (what about illegal immigrants which is a vastly greater problem?)
Mandy – talking about these proposals , fingers crossed, tongue in cheek, said ” We like people to pay their dues, abide by the rules and earn their rights and entitlements.” +++++LAUGH+++++
We sure do mandy, starting with you and your mates. And when you’ve done it honestly for twenty years I’ll think about voting for you and your crooked pals – NOT
Morning Folks.
that’s not cricket
This reply adds nothing to the blog, and is merely symptomatic of your autistic inability to endure silence.
Sounds just like “British Jobs for British Workers”again. And even less convincing.
What more proof do we need than this that NuBileOr is the poodle of American foreign policy?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8177561.stm
Sorry for all the bungs I took, for that Lord please forgive me
don’t worry – we can now look forward to another week of geordie drivel
serves you fucking right for having the audacity to have a job.
why bother/ just live on handouts and tax credits.
Motorists facing £250 parking space tax under new Government scheme
Penalised: Those who drive to work and park in company bays could be charged up to £250 per space
Firms employing 11 or more staff who park their cars in company bays will be charged for each space.
This is liebour policy to get even more of your hard earnt money. They really dont want you having any do they?
is the liebour party vulnerable to charges of nepotism?
There’s an interesting article by Jeff Randall in the Telegraph this morning which explores the extent to which “which blood ties and marriages” seem to matter so much within the top echelons on the Labour party.
He notes: that the Labour cabinet includes “…the Miliband brothers, Edward and David; the husband-and-wife team, Ed Balls and Yvette Cooper, daughter of Prospect’s former general secretary; Harriet Harman, the niece of Lord Longford (a former Labour leader of the House of Lords) and the spouse of the party’s treasurer, Jack Dromey; Douglas Alexander, sibling of Wendy, the former leader of Labour in Scotland; Hillary Benn, son of Tony, who served as Harold Wilson’s industry secretary and Jim Callaghan’s energy secretary; and Peter Mandelson, grandson of Herbert Morrison, Clement’s Attlee’s deputy prime minister.”
The bringing together of the family links is interesting but I wonder whether it could be politically significant.
What does it say about a movement that is supposed to be about equality of opportunity that you appear to have a better chance of prospering if you have some family connections.
Do tell.
He or she just did, you brain dead tosser.
Yes, please push that one with all your might and gusto (especially gusto) – it would be to Labour’s tremendous advantage were you to do so – go an, go an, go an, go an give it your gusto
Hows the autism this morning?
Ooooooh. The Labour trolls don’t like that one. You’re on to something.
new stassi are not about equality at all. they are the most authoritarian, anti-democratic and dumbing down fuckers ever
Yes, we’re shaking in our shoes – run with it – get the presses rolling!
Good article. I thought I was reading Stalin: The Court of the Red Tzar again when, no, it’s a British government cabinet. Here’s the link
Damian, I want to congratulate you. I noticed the first ever sensible post from you when you replied to the nutter about the union flag on the ID cards.
Shame you don’t have the staying power to maybe stretch yourself to, say, two, good posts in your miserable life. If you’re an old guy, I take it back and if its a health thing. Just a thought that’s all.
Why would I want the congratulations of a boring, unpleasant troll? Stick ‘em.
Very interesting article – as usual – by Randall. Family and blood ties always played a part in politics of course. Usually sons of famous fathers fail to make it as high as their dad. Still goes on in lots of so-called “family firms”. I know of several where the sons are idiots but still employed in the firm.
What about the Prescott succession plan to hand “his” seat on to his son, the Martin succession plan to do the same (when Brown eventually gets round to calling the By-Election), that funny woman who lost in Crewe and even the Kinnock family firm feeding off the state? It’s who you know in the family, that gets you on in Labour.
Pushing the a bit too far, of course we also have Lord Peston’s son telling us about business matters at the BBC.
Hey Guido – what price a new topic to discuss this one was fated to be a bummer from the get go.
I mean how you got your facts wrong and all that – and the biased reporting I gave you the nod about, remember?
We had more dead baby posts folks (happily now deleted) thsi time about the Prime Minister’s child.
Funny how DC’s tragedy got all the column inches here and is still up to get as much sympathy as possible
But when the same thing happens to the Prime Minsiter then it is deleted off this board before anybody has a chance even to see it.
As all good PR men like cocaine boy DC know – ALL publicity is good EVEN the bad!
SHEER HYPOCRISY
Dead baby posts re Brown’s child will be simply black propaganda from the Labour trolls. You know it, we know it and you know that we know it.
Typical Nu-Labour mindset you see. The end justifies the means.
Even though 76% of the population have a very clear grip of what the end looks like and are keen to avoid it.
So you are accusing the Labour Party of posting Dead Baby messages on public fora EVEN the PM’s own son?
Say that in public again and SEE YA IN COURT
Are you telling me Labour trolls wouldn’t? Search your heart Luke. You know it to be true.
You are as dispicable as your master feeding off the memory of an innocent child…SHAME on you all
Disgust is not strong enough for what I feel right now – this place has dived from bad to worse recently. No more talk please about David Cameron exploiting that child’e memory and no more about the PM’s loss. Agreed?
Notice how, possibly subconsciously, you seek to conflate any mention of Cameron’s kid with Cameron ‘exploiting his memory’ whereas any mention of Brown’s kid has to be the work of Tories dissing Brown in your myopic world.
You do see that don’t you?
Because everybody else does.
Sometimes the answer is right in front of you.
Brown really has fucked the economy. He really has. And those who lie either voluntarily (because they’re true ‘believers’) or because they’re on the Labour payroll will resort to any tactic to divert attention from this simple fact.
Look at the troll’s tactics. You know it to be true.
labour smear campain is up and running, mcbrides new job starts
865 – I was hoping we could have shook hands on it, so to speak. Now I am sorry I gave you that leeway.
Who has the troll account for this blog and would they stoop to such tactics?
871 – Look at what you’re asking for a virtual handshake on. You want me to agree that Cameron is ‘exploiting his dead baby’ (TORIES BAD) and that those posting on here about Brown’s dead baby are really Tories. (TORIES BAD).
Why would anybody agree to that? Where is your evidence?
Seriously.
Could the same charges not be levelled at the Labour trolls? Would you put anything past the party that buried David Kelly without a proper autopsy?
Seriously.
877 – David Kelly? Good point. On the rest, I dunno, I was only “flying by the seat of my pants” on that one talk you and I were having. You’re taking things too wide for this time in the morning.
I see that Gary McKinnon, the hacker, has lost his extradition battle after getting Brown’s sympathy.
Oh, and Sybil, the Downing Street cat has died, presumably after a stroke. From Brown.
Finally Brown’s evil gift has a useful outcome. Could we appoint him cat-stroker-in-chief to eradicate the hateful animals from the realm.
did the cat get hit by a flying nokia ?
You bastards are sick – I hope that poor woman Gary McKinnon’s mother is not reading what you lot said for cheap political point scoring…vile creatures.
At least his mumsie ain’t sissy
Cameron’s just made a statement about this and said that the Extradition Act should be reviewed. This just about balances out his disgraceful statement yesterday about not wanting a replacement for Sybil. Freedom-loving Conservative or cat-hating tory shite? Make your mind up Dave.
a sad loss today rip sir bobby robson
Yes, he must be regretting all the corrupt acts that peppered his career…may the lord have mercy upon his soul
..and yours, you nasty little man.
With a name like yours Django you’ve got some penance to do yourself for corrupt bungs with your expenses claims…what was it again, cleaning the moat?
Little Timmy must be wanting his bottle. His Sistermammy must’ve hidden it.
He’s done it again!!!
Our second greatest leader of all time, aka “The Scottish Scunner” goes on holiday in the UK and guess what. the skies open, the deluge commences, the Met Office has to withdraw its’ BBQ Summer forecast, and the test matches become a waterlogged shambles just when it looked as if we were in with a chance of victory.
Why didn’t the silly fakir elect to go to France for his hollies, they need to rain after all?
I’ll take fifteen more days of rained off test match cricket just to send Ponting back home with empty pockets.
MRS Q pointed out that it rained the day he became the temporary PM.
“And its been shit ever since”
Not sure if she meant the weather, the country or both.
england take 2 wickets in first two balls of the day
The wife-beater was calling for Onions yesterday evening.
Only Onions can make the hardman Ponting cry.
So tell me Ladies and Gentlemen, what policies have come from Tory HQ today to remove/reform some of the stealth taxes imposed since 1997?
In fact tell me any taxes the Tories intend to remove or reform.
Thought not.
God help us all. And I’m a true Tory.
only one i heard was frezzing council tax and tv tax
Smart move – freezing the council tax when the future prospects are that it should be CUT, according to prevailing market conditions.
And THAT impresses you? FOOL
no he asked if there was policy on reducing tax and the only ones i had heard was those stated
Yes, I appreciate that point you make – it is just that I am not well up on internal tory planning so I was trying to make a wider, more general point to the extent that even if it did come to pass, what would it be worth?
The fact is ALL politicians are word smiths – I remember Tony Blair saying “we will say what we mean and mean what we say” and I was silly enough to believe him at the time. Once bitten twice shy – beware of politicians promising tax cuts.
am not tory either , breaking news is not part of any party and reports the news the people need to know
881 – pleased to meet ya.
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I know when I’m not wanted but both GB and the Nation needs me
Vote Labour – you all know it makes sense
england take the wicket of ponting
Mel Gibson, Rolf Harris, Crocodile Dundee, Kylie Minogue, Jason Donavan, Rupert Murdoch, John Howard, Ian Thorpe, Cate Blanchett, your boys are taking a hell of a beating.
you forgot mr glenn 5-0 mcrath
breaking news suports the england team in the ashes
As long as McMental doesn’t we’re OK.
Alan Johnson really is an utter cock .
As a dim Scotsman I don’t understand cricket – Have I got it right when I say that you had a bad day yesterday but today is going better ?
Good luck from,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Sp,e,d,o
can confirm that england have the tourist on the ropes however as the weather is dodgy for the rest of the test match a draw seems the most likely result
Sadly, years of following England cricket fills me with foreboding. England are a team who can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Or even a safe draw.
can agree with said statment , there something strange about watching england as you put it “snatch defeat from a draw or a win “
Are you sure you don’t mean Roland Rat?
It pisses me off to get my messages deleted yet Charles E Hardwidge goes Scot free – at least I generate conversations -
If I were an advertiser on this website I would either want my money back or demand Charles’ messages be deleted – unless, of course, Charles is part of the overall con. . . . . . .
You are just a boring unpleasant troll. He is a boring troll. Please go away. Forever.
The Oaf GuidOrcs is an unpleasant fat bellied self important irritating lickspittle of Coulson.
However the tap is off, having served a purpose in the email hacking of Labour.
Back down to earth for the slimy smearing host of this blog who physically resembles most closely an ogre. A limip posturing self confessed Librarian.
How dare you impersonate the site owner like that – he would never speak to anybody in that tone. How LOW can you GET
I am REALLY pissed off at folk impersonating me which is bad enough now they’re even doing it to the site owner…Guido, if you can hear me mate, TURN ON DISPLAY OF THE IP NUMBERS FOR GOODNESS SAKE then we will not be fooled any longer.
The Oaf GuidOrcs is an unpleasant fat bellied self important irritating lickspittle of Coulson.
However the tap is off, having served a purpose in the email hacking of Labour.
Back down to earth for the slimy smearing host of this blog who physically resembles most closely an ogre. A limpid posturing self confessed Librarian.
So there you have it ,prick.
The Great Man has disrupted his holiday to tell you what the entire blogosphere already knows.
Whether you are a genuinely tedious nonentity who can’t help it or merely an inadequate with a bizarre and irritating sense of humour is irrelevant.
Nobody is impressed or interested so do the decent thing for once in your dismal life; eat shit and die.
england take wicket of clarke
They’re going down like nine-pins… two more
Ken or Charles ?
What fresh disaster await Gordon Brown? Lots! And lots!
British Airways is an unusual example of a British institution being buggered up by an Irishman rather than a Scotchman. Coincidentally their losses are very much the same size as the fine they had to pay for price-fixing. They’ve done away with the sarnies on short-haul flights. What next? Switching off the fountains at Head Office? Being nice to the passengers?
I think my posts are becoming inreasingly pointless & so I have decided to hang up my instrument before I do myself any more damage.
I remember the days when it was worthing reading and commenting. Sigh!
“Anthropologically speaking, the young are only good for shagging, the elderly for euthanasia and the middle-aged for wife swapping,” said….
I’m thinking of starting a political novel with these words.
Anyone like to continue it?
Let’s not forget that Mandy is Rudd’s son’s godfather. Call my cynical but that could be a rather good way to get politicians to look after your client’s interests…
What a bunch of venal vipers. If Cameron gets sucked in, the media luvvies won’t give him 12 years to get it right.
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