Guardian Get Over It
Unusually for Guido he flicked through the Guardian first thing this morning. It seems to have developed a mono-mania. Peter Wilby writes The Biggest Media Story in Years – So Why the Silence? Hmm, possibly because it isn’t news that newspapers hack mobiles and has not been since we listened to Diana’s squidgygate recordings over a decade ago. They also strung out another news story rehashing Sunday coverage. Martin Moore from the Media Standards Trust says incredibly supportively This Calls for An Inquiry – But Not by the PCC (nothing to do with the fact that the Guardian’s owner funds the Media Standards Trust). Jackie Ashley kicks out 800 words on Coulson Must Go Or Else I’ll Scream Until I am Blue in the Face. Julian Henry says the same, Coulson apparently has to lose his current job for the same reason he lost his last job or else presumably the Guardian will keep writing articles about him.
Hell, forlornly looking for Tory division, they have even roped in ConservativeHome’s Tim Montgomerie for a piece. Seven articles today about Coulson not being destroyed by a Guardian scoop? Isn’t that overkill? The scoop, such as it was, really boils down to the payouts which happened long after Coulson’s tenure. It wasn’t news that voicemail hacking and worse happened on Coulson’s watch. That is after all why he resigned last time.
It could of course kick-off tomorrow if the select committee skewers Coulson, if he is worth the money he is paid he should be able to get through Tom Watson et al trying to ensnare him. He won’t enjoy becoming the focus…
guido lad they got knickers in twist its a shit paper anyway
Its not even good for that.It just smears
Smeared knickers then
Cleggover is doing a social media interview
GET IN
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/07/08/ask-nick-clegg/
as opposed to an antisocial media interview…?
Does anybody actually read the Guardian
Well its difficult to understand unless you’re dyslexic…
Yes expat, I read it online every morning, as I like a good bellylaugh before starting work; I wouldn’t waste my money buying it though!
Why not just write that you admire Coulson, Cameron, Murdoch or all 3, so are attacking the messenger ? Would be more honest after all Guido.
Here’s an idea. Try expanding your reading from Iain Dale twatter numbers to the bible on the corruption endemic in the Newspapers, or “Dead Tree Press” as you call them when you aren’t doing a 180 about what they get up to.
Its’ called “Flat Earth News” and was written by Nick Davies one of the main forces in uncovering the Guardian story. But he must be a muesli swilling lefty ? That must be why Peter Oborne (you may have heard of him he GOES to Iraq and Afghanistan is a serious journalist and doesn’t bend over for ANY Party) wrote of it “This is an exceptionally IMPORTANT BOOK”
But you keep right on spinning for Coulson as I note with vast amusement that despite trying to rubbish the story you admit that Coulson is neither safe and that he has already broken the spin doctors golden rule and BECOME the focus.
Remember Campbell appearing in front of Parliament ? He was gone not too long after despite not being charged with anything.
It’s not a story? Yeah, right! Of course it isn’t. Widespread illegality among one of Brtain’s biggest selling Newspapers under the editorship of Cameron’s Spin Doctor is barely worth mentioning. And the fact that the Newspapers up to their necks in the same illegality won’t report on it properly is a surprise to you ?????
Coulson was unequivocal to both the police investigation and Cameron that he knew absolutely nothing whatsoever about the phonebugging or any illegality despite paying for private detectives and approving any stories that resulted from them.
Looks like I’ll have to go to Conservativehome and see if they have a more balanced view of this story.
I don’t read the Guardian – just look at the pictures. Especially on page 3 – the hairy wimmin of the day in dungarees.
It is the only broadsheet defending Gordon Canute’s Afghan startegy headlining Miliband with “Afghanistan conflict making Britain safer”.
Deluded Insane Tossers have a circle jerk.
The Penguin
The only reason it might make the UK safer is the fact that anyone who might have terrorist leanings have buggered off to Afghanistan to fight against the UK and USA.
It was some deluded newlabour worker’s idea. Suspect Guardian will end up with egg on it’s face. Boring, turgid ‘likes to think itself worthy’ newspaper.
That’s called the “flypaper strategy”, and I believe the Iraq wars real purpose was this.
Don’t fight terrorists on home turf with police rules, fight them in a proper war against the military.
In Gordon Brown’s case, he should not be dubbed ‘King Canute’ but King CLINT.
The Grauniad has always been an extreme statist (quasi Marxist) rag – not quite there with the Honecker supporting Mirror but an evil propaganda sheet all the same.
Oi! don’t diss Canute. He was actually trying to prove to his nobles the opposite of what most of our politicians, journos and other under-educated commentators seem to think when they use his name – that he thought he could turn back the tide. Read the story.
Quite right Airey Belvoir, but then nobody studies history any more.
Would they be Posh Toynbee’s big knickers? Horrid thought, the old prune.
AK-KHAARRRKK! CHIT! POLLYWANNACRACKER! POLLYWANNACRACKER!
o/t can anyone tell me why andrew neil is called brillo?
@45 Brillo is Private Eye’s monicker for him. Short for Brillo Pad because of his fuzzy hair.
But don’t quote me on that…
cheers lad
I think the jury is out as to whether
a) It is hair
b) Whether it is his or not
Aye, the comb-over looks like a brillo pad.
Media Standards Trust is Common Purpose. Perhaps because Coulson is not one of them that they feel they should try ( rather feebly ) to destroy him? The cowardly shits have plenty of “form”.
If the Grauniad wants a leading story perhaps it can ask why its pals, the Nu-Facists, have signed us up for a multi-trillion pounds carbon tax scam based on computer models that even the one of the global warming alarmists own experts (Gavin Schmidt of NASA GISS) says can’t accurately predict a fucking thing beyond two weeks let alone thirty years.
They could get George (Moonbat) Monbiot to write it.
Earth cooling at the moment, bit tecky lack of sun spots
2 degrees reduction a shoe in
High fives all round by the politicos
They have done. George in full flow on CiF, seven pages of comments already.
Perhaps they will investigate the Rover cover up…..or perhaps not?
The real story is the plot behind this Labour -Guardian-BBC conspiracy.
Come on Guido earn your keep.
Trevor, that’s it.
good point. this was story was carefully coordinated between Labour PR/ BBC/ Grauniad.
Toenails ( 3 blogs in one day)and even little Lord Peston ( new showbiz editor ? ) were furiously pimping this non story to any punter who would have her.
Thankfully, the british public turned their nose up and walked on by.
If Coulson’s previous ‘form’ – and unproven ‘form’ at that – is to be used to make him lose his current job where exactly does that leave Peter Poppet, the Unholy Lord Mandelsnake himself? He had to resign, not once but twice for dodgy goings on that were proven, not just suspected. Shouldn’t he now be ‘considering his position’ too?
Oh sorry, of course he’s NuLiebour so any & every form of corruption is OK, is indeed expected & commended. Coulson, on the other hand, is Opposition & must be hung, drawn & quartered, publically whether guilty of not. Ain’t life in Brown’s Equality & Diversity Stasi Britain just great?
Agreed …. the respected scientist Dr Kelly was put through the wringer by a ’select committe’ of the ruling party – filmed and broadcast by the BBC. He died shortly afterwards. His crime ? His findings didn’t suit Bliar and the ruling party; he (reportedly) confirmed NO WMD’s to BBC journalist Andrew Gilligan.
Dr Kelly paid with his life – Gilligan (reportedly) funded by licence payers.
Whilst Princess Diana (allegedly) played the paparazzi at their own game, she (reportedly) believed her phones were bugged by ‘the establishment’ – hence no police involvement or action to protect her privacy.
Following reports of Bliar’s ex foreign policy advisor being appointed Head of MI6 – a ‘phone tapping’ story is reported on a person allied to the Opposition Party. Viewed, undoubtedly, as an ‘enemy’ of the ruling party.
Stazi Britain – trial by media and ‘ruling party committees’. BBC will undoubtedly be as complicit in Mr Coulson’s ‘case’ as it was with Dr Kelly.
Do victims of filmed select committee interrogations have no right to legal representation in the ‘kangaroo court’ ? I doubt it.
innit.
I hope that fat pig Watson is reminded of his emails to a certain disgraced newlabour scumbag engaging in smears from No10, a well timed smackdown and/or relevation of a highly embarrasing email or two from the bloated bastard might just turn the whole newlabour entrapment/smear opperation into a fisaco.
I hope the media friends of newlabour like toe nails and kneepads white et al are skewered, it would be justice served wouldnt it?
They’re only jealous ‘cos they didn’t think of it. The Guardian didn’t worry about trapping Jonathan Aitken with a forged fax.
The Prime Minister is known to favour positive effort, society, and the long view. This is a difficult thing to nurture in a disorganised and disjointed country like Britian but the essence of his economic philosophy looks like it is designed not to remove the business cycle but expand the sweet spot.
1. The benefits of bodhicitta (the wish to reach full enlightenment for others)
2. Purifying bad deeds
3. Adopting the spirit of enlightenment
4. Using conscientiousness
5. Guarding awareness
6. The practice of patience
7. The practice of joyous effort
8. The practice of meditative concentration
9. The perfection of wisdom
10. Dedication
This may not sound like much of a business plan but the principles of Daoism, Zen Buddhism, and martial arts seem to be something the Prime Minister understands. They’re battle tested across a range of industries, countries, and history so I have confidence in them. Better still I see they work with my own eyes.
Nurse!
I am not changing Mr Hardwidge’s sheets again today !
Does anyone actually ever read any of CH’s posts? I don’t think I’ve actually ever got past the second sentence of even his shorter offerings.
Life is too short.
Pity his is’nt.
I’m bored Engineer.
Presumably means you’re at work, and not much is happening. If you have any access to BBC ‘listen again’, there was an interesting prog this morning on Radio 4 called ‘The Political Club’ about back-ddor state funding of political parties. Alternatively, look busy and keep posting. Guido won’t mind having his stats boosted.
yes i am at work…good old Guido, he’s very tolerant of my work avoiding strategies.
I’m too lazy to listen to anything re party funding though…! Is that your best suggestion?!
Where’s Tat? Did I scare him off last night?
Well… no…
Nah, Mr Engineer is correctamundo – 29,000 politicians costing the paultry sum of £half a billion of your squiddlies – kerching! Where’s Charlie’s nurse when ya need her?
Lets go to the pub then.
Did have a read of yesterday’s threads. TaT seems to have developed an ability to morph. Several people had their identities stolen, by the looks of it. You do seem to have a remarkable effect on him.
Name the pub – I’ll be there. I should be working, but it’s Monday, stop for a cuppa….just have a quick look-see what’s going on….next thing you’re posting. Nell said the same thing a few days ago.
Ha ha winding Tat up is one of my fav occupations..He’s so eminently windable. Wait til he sees this later – he’ll get all upset and call me an adulteress slut again…Talk about a woamn scorned…a Tat scorned is like an angry wasp that can’t get to the jam ..
Its a shame we don’t have a universal Guido pub really…though I expect if there was one Guido’s stats would suffer dreadfully
Given some of the things that get posted, it might even improve coherence at times.
I see you’ve morphed as well. You’re now a 45 year old batchelor with personal hygiene issues married to a 6′-5″ jealous rugby player with an anger management problem. No wonder TaT scarpered.
Ha ha yes but I also live with my mum and I’m having a lesbian affair, don’t forget. I haven’t yet been accused of being a gay man…I don’t think…
Just a matter of time. He is running out of possible insults though. Wait till he starts calling you a brunette one-legged lesbian Glaswegian Speaker.
The Guido pub….Hardwedge would have his own barstool in the corner, which everyone would avoid once they’d been caught by him once, TwAT would keep being barred for calling the barmaid a cripple when she gave him the wrong flavour crisp s. Me, you, Misog, Dack Blog, Freddie and SteveExpat would definitely be part of the raucous element with Chronic. Nell, would look after us all and make sure I got home safely, while she fended off advances of Grumpy Old Man. Ewanme would be stoned. Master Baiter would be irritating for England in the corner with half a shandy. And the more earnest amongst us would be having animated political debate… Guido would probably pop in so he could take the piss and pick up the Guiness we would leave him behind the bar…
TaT spent Saturday night at Boujis. He had unexpected success with a girl called Caroline who misunderstood his ramblings about a hung parliament. This led to a posse of Bullo boys outside his door the following morning. He hasn’t been seen since.
Post of the day NewGirl!
Moley, AC1 and several others would bring a little decorum to proceedings, with barefootcontessa adding class and a certain je-ne-sais-quoi. Not sure about Master Baiter, though, think he’d have to be accompanied by a responsible adult, and there probably wouldn’t be many volunteers. Nell would become increasingly animated as the Aussie red flowed. I’d probably manage three pints of Pedigree and fall asleep in a corner, Chronic would be the one who doesn’t speak very often, but causes brings the house down when he does. Guido would regard the anarchy with a quietly satisfied eye, and offer the local Plod a few on the house to avoid too much official interest after closing time.
Sounds like Britain at it’s best, actually….
Nope, never read them nor do I read Baitors or any pride shit! It all just Labour propogander and not making a good point.
Agent 99 if you read this you’re a liar.
And Dr Mick! He’d be MC wine choice, and helping me upset TwAt, who would be barred but loitering outside, glowering…
Tee hee hee, either the site’s buggered again, or Agent 99 and MB have been in the pub already. Lads, take your bar room arguments into the snug!
I regretfully confess I DO read CEH’s posts, especially the ones that are by the other CEH. Whoever you are, your parodies are so good I struggle to decide who’s who without checking the link.
Or perhaps they are both one and the same, a surrealist comedy act who could be hired to perform in the putative Guido Arms.
Except I actually think the ‘real’ one is an admirer of North Korean style state control and may be trying to brainwash us into acquiescence since he can’t use thumb screws.
But then I’m a retired ‘cripple’ – what do I know?
PT I will definitely buy you a pint. You will be rep of the Forces and therefore inundated with goodwill pints. Probably by the end of the night you’ll be singing Two little Boys with Hardwedge!
LOL NewGirl. Ta muchly. More like singing ‘Show me the way to go home’. I do hear there are some lovely substances you can put in people’s beer that makes them all quiet and calm. Think CEH would like some?
Ha ha imagine what he’d be like on acid…..
NG, have you been reading a manual on Blog Anarchy? You really have started something here!
We forgot Sir William Waad and Airey Belvoir sampling the vintage port and generally raising the tone in the Lounge bar – and there seems to be a bit of a scrum at Public bar. By the way, for heaven’s sake don’t let TaT have the darts – we’d have to evacuate the place.
NewGirl and Engineer, you two obviously have far too much time on your hands…
Should be working….. not quite sure what happened…
and in the pub the juke box will be playing our song -
“just can’t get you out of my head”
you are obsessed with me new girl and your lust is driving you insane.
try taking up a new hobby like knitting or jam making.
anything that will help you stop obsessing about the great thick as thieves.
mind you if you have got an arse like kylie minogue I might succum.
fnarr fnarr.
There’s a clip of NewGirl’s elegant rear elevation at the end of the thread. She’s invoiced Guido for modelling work. Decide for yourself, but I’d give it 11 out of 10.
P.S. You’re not the real TaT. There are no swear words, and you forgot to call someone a cripple.
the unredacted version of thick as thieves(hero:1st Class) will be available exclusively on order-order from 7pm.
you lucky lucky cripples.
Non vedo l’ora.
Poor little c’nt is just a ‘bot’ ain’t he? String meaningless sentences together & post on all blogs that don’t praise Bottler Brown & his Govt of None of the Talents.
Yes, you coming to the pub too Biffo?
The Buddha-field is the result of a Bohdisattva’s altruism, which does not aim at isolation from the evil-doers, but at their conversion
Ah Jonathan Aikin,he of the sword of truth,convicted of perjury. Now I know why I recoil everytime I see the Champneys ad. at the top of the page. Still at least he’s only bothering God now. Now what was that thing about dogs and fleas?
This story smacks of the Grauniad and the Liebour party desparately trying to smear Coulson personally as much as the NotW. Now their “story” has been exposed as nothing new they’re desparately trying to spin it into something it isn’t.
Are you sure McBride’s not still around somewhere, Guido?
With AlJaBeeba forever in support. Drip drip drip
The Guardian wanted their own ‘Telegraph’ expose, and are a little miffed that the bigger papers aren’t taking them very seriously. They think they can get questions tabled and heads rolled.
They may very well get Coulson, but he really only has to survive another week and then its holiday time for Westminster.
That also brings relief to the helicopter denier himself. The real story of why the Chancellor from 2001 -2007 thought that two wars could be fought on a peacetime budget is not to be discussed. In fact the guardian have a ‘public think everything is fine in Afghanistan..no really they do’ article today.
Strange from the liberal pacifists, being supporters of an 8 year foreign war government.
Yes, but its only men (mainly white) who are dying – so that girls in Afghanistan can go to school.
Double whammy for the feminists, then.
Does that help to expain the support of the liberal pacifists?
you appear to be going for a crap excuse when it suits you. Do you really think the conflict is about girls going to school?
It’s about sucking up to the Americans, AFAICS.
I thought we learned our lesson in Afghanistan in the 19th century; reinforced by the catastrophic Russian invasion which led (thanks to intervention by Reagan) pretty directly to the collapse of the Iron Curtain.
Apparently not.
Q1: How many British citizens have died in this conflict?
Q2: How many British citizens would die in some putative “terrorist attack” mounted by al-Qaeda in the UK?
Q3: How much is this costing?
Q4: What would be the economic cost if the putative attack took place?
Given Labour’s dismal incompetence in every other sphere of its influence, how can we believe that they know what they are doing in Afghanistan?
I read a book in which I think the cost of the wars to Britain in Afghanistan and Iraq is estimated at about $600 bn. It will cost the US about $3 trillion*.
*$3,000,000,000,000
You’re wrong, I believe less girls are going to school now than before. Less boys AND girls.
And Dr Mick, much of that cash supplied nicely wrapped in plastic on big pallets – very handy for transhipment. Wonder how much of the Gulf property boom has been funded by this windfall, and how much has actually been spent on the ground in Iraq?
Cunliffe @ No.48
That was what Ms Harman said at PMQs last Wednesday. Are you suggesting that she lied?
Am I suggesting that a politician lied?
No. I would never suggest such a thing.
And how much have these wars contributed to the “credit crunch”? It’s difficult to reconcile a few bad mortgages with a worldwide recession.
Got the numbers wrong for UK cost. The cost to the UK is a mere £20 billion. Must have been confused numbers with the UK deficit for this year.
Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes, The Three Trillion Dollar War.
Just let the papers and politicians have their hissy fit. No one else is bothered
The biggest media story in years ? dont make me laugh. Doesnt even lick 1% of the boots of the telegraphs expenses scoop.
Mr Ashley on his Sunday morning comedy show was whinging like a wittle girl too – ah, diddums.
His? Jackie Ashley is female.
Mr Jackie Ashley = Andrew Marr. When he’s not Mr Alice Miles.
i found it amusing when he was suggesting that nick griffen might have done things in his past that might make people not trust a word he said now. i wanted griffen to bring up alice miles and the issue of the past and trust just to see marr’s reaction.
As a story ,it seems to lack any detail at all so far.Unless they come up with specifics,this is going to die a death.Perhaps they believe that if the Guardian says so,it must be true.
The specific is that the Dirty Digger has admitted to paying out one MILLION pounds to settle and seal the files on a civil case involving criminal activity by the 450k per year press secretary of the Leader of Her Majesty’s Opposition.
If it’s no big deal unseal the files, sunlight is the best disinfectant, isn’t it?
Yeah, right – except it’s illegal numbnuts.
What’s illegal?
Coulson said he had no knowledge of what was going on. But he was man enough to accept responsibility for it because he was in charge.
Similarly, Gordon Brown said he had no knowledge of the disgusting smear tactics of McBride and Draper. Nobody believes him and he does not have the integrity to resign for what happened on his watch.
The specifics of the story remain.
Dirty Digger admits paying one million to settle and seal civil case involving criminal activity by the press spokesman of the Leader of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition.
Like the Telegraph sunlight on MPs expenses? Refresh my memory on that Master Baiter – how many NuLiebour MPs were caught by the short & curlies there?
Coulson said he was not involved and there is no proof that he was. Even the police admit this. So to suggest that he was involved in criminal activity is (1) libellous and (2) politically motivated.
Better hope that Murdoch’s men don’t request your IP address. This blog is more important than protecting the sources.
You didn’t read law at ‘uni’ did you Master Baiter?
Are you the same age as the Dirty Digger?
Fish frying tonight.
The Guardian’s story was specific-”thousands” of mobile phones were hacked into.No details have been provided.
You can’t get more specific than, “farsands and farsands”.
I can vouch for Master Baiter. We are both 3rd year sofamores reading Sports Science at Luffboro Uni. MB is a high jump athlete.
You are dishonest, sir.
Any Loughborough student would know that the correct spelling is Lufbra.
And there is no such thing in the UK as a sofamore [sic], 3rd year or otherwise.
I suspect you of being someone else’s alter ego and you’re both equally illiterate.
Are you making phun of our uni?
Bet you are a wonkbridge grad.
Who are you, you illiterate little twit?
A sophamore (note spelling) is a second year undergraduate in the US university system.
I’m sure this government and its predecessor has created the University of Wonkbridge (previously known as Wonky Polytechnic), but to answer your innuendo, no I did not attend Oxford or Cambridge.
As for making ‘phun’ of Loughborough, given I taught there for 5 years and have the utmost respect for it, you are the only one making fun of it.
I don’t do spelling, I’m studying Sports Science.
There are no Tory ‘Spelmen’ teaching us now, so maybe you had a Coulson moment?
Cameron stated a few weeks ago
“I don’t care what the government does any more. They can announce cuts, they can announce increases, they can set out whatever they want. Set the whole thing to music and do a karaoke. I have lost faith in a prime minister who stands up and says black is white. We will make our own decisions about what’s right for the country.”
Nobody cares what Labour says, what the Guardian says, what Jackie Ashley says, what Michael White says, nobody cares anymore, they have no importance, their importance is finished
not important
You missed out Polly – no-one gives a shit what she says either!
KRIK-KRIK-KK-K! POLLYWANNACRACKER!
When people get too caught up in themselves or the moment things tend to roll over the edge. Politics suffers from this in general which is why shifting focus or taking a break is a good idea.
Where there’s hope there’s life, etcetera.
You take a break lad – all I can see is £800 billion and THEY’RE PRINTING MONEY!!
Where there’s hope there’s life, etcetera.
Got a job and a nice income, eh, Charles? Thought so.
There’s little milage in taking on the Guardian or getting sucked into arguments with other people. You’ll only get a sore head and wear yourself down. Really, the best thing is just to make the best comment you can and stop worrying.
Nobody remembers anything if you argue against something plus getting sucked into competitive games with other people just lowers the tone. This generates a mountain of negativity and will be the only thing people remember.
I mentally see a pile of shite when I read
“Charles_E_Hardwidge says:”
steaming bum fresh shite
ditto, its like “oh no not this shit again”
Lovely
I see his name and pass on by, never read his posts now. All piffle.
Me too
Please, everyone, just ignore him. Don’t even be tempted to correct his spelling.
I’m just saying that unless people learn to empty their minds they can’t let anything new in or allow what’s there to work its magic. I figure, we can become super-stressed by policy and peer pressure and letting go a bit can do some good. I think we agree on the principle.
I’m a bit of a one party state man so in theory we should never agree. In reality, both approaches are indistinguishable and it’s probably true of party politics as well. The real problem is ego. So, I breathlessly await Imperious Leader’s plan to increase joyous recreational endevour.
What is your motivation?
Sirs,
I just want to point out that ‘Charels E Hardwidge’ is actually a clever anagram of ‘Wierd Cradle Shag, eh?’
Dashed clever these Grauniad readers….
Major Plonquer
Motivation is clear: to ridicule Brown. The claims are so outrageous as to be ridiculous.
The Guardian is trying to level the field and get one back for the demise of McBride. Coulson being the chosen target.
A storm in a teacup over a non-story. And of course the Guardian has always used the highest and most ethical methods to get stories and scoops and can afford to take the highest moral line as its hands are so super clean and aseptic.
Gordo’s pitbull attack dogs, but really they’re poodles doing someone elses dirty work.
Once again, do NOT libel and demean Poodles by this sort of reference.
Guido,
Very brave of you to expose yourself to the thoughts of the enemy. Do be careful, though: didn’t Oscar Wilde warn of the danger that reading rubbish might rub off on one’s own style?
(Do they still do misprints, by the way? I haven’t read the Grauniad for 30 years.)
Probably not but all the papers are full of homonyms thanks to spellchequers, the demise of proofreaders and the abysmal of level of English teaching since the 70s.
I did enjoy Sans Serif though!
the abysmal of level of English teaching since the 70s.
You need to hire a proof reader. Preferably one that was educated in the 70s.
Would you believe me if I said that was intentional?
I may need retraining, but I prefer upper case to lower case.
The ties between NuLabour & The Guardian need to be smashed. The trouble is the the government props up the otherwise bankrupt newspaper by placing most of the well paid public sector job vacancies in said newspaper.
Just have a look at the supplements on Health, Education & “Society”. So it is the chosen organ for the 60K+ jobs with decent pensions. By the way
tucked away on page 11 today “Doctors to challenge Kelly suicide”.
And it’s where the BBC advertises, which is why they are all socialist wankers.
It is normally the only paper they give away on planes and I just noticed this weekend in Starbucks they sell the paper there as well but only that one paper.
Went straight to Costa coffee instead and coffee was actually better.
Fuck em all and any of their supporters!
Cafe Nero sell the times.
Starbucks is the Democrats coffee of choice.Quite how the most globalised of globalisation chains manages to convince the lefty mochafrapachino crowd that they represent fair trade.
But I guess sticking some abstract art on the walls and playing soft mellow jazz and having comfy armchairs and a copy of PollyTwaddle blurs the senses.
Nothing against Starbucks. Just can’t see why a capitalist success appears as Mecca for the Hampstead crew.
Bill Quango,
Starbucks are run by Dr Evils’ Corporation.
Muhaha.
The Graudian is always the last paper to be taken on planes. Usually the Mail and Express go first, then the FT and then it’s, “I’m afraid this is all we have left, Sir.”
What about the link between the Guardian and the BBC. They are very ‘pallsy wallsy’
Remind me how much tax the GMG paid last year? 28p wasn’t it?
Didn’t stop them from raging about tax cheats and spivs.
Funny old game isn’t it.
Preachy chanpagne socialists like Polly Toynbee railing against unnecessary travel being not green from her holiday home tuscan villa.
You can’t spell hypocrite without Guardian….must get a new scrabble set.
Labour = lying tax cheats.
“Unneccessary travel” will be a thing of the past in 5 years time, and experts reckon 100% of airline flights will be powered by sustainable biofuel by 2014 – so that’s one issue to tell Polly & pals to get stuffed on
I recently visted the font of Champagne Socialism – Berkely in California, [Hi Derek Draper] where I learned that in the 70’s, Noam Chomsky and his Lefty pals kicked of the champagne left lifestyle by espousing the revolutionary virtues of fine dining
You need to keep an eye on the Media Standards Trust:
http://www.stopcp.com/cpmedia.php
Don’t know if this has been posted.
Dr Kelly’s death not suicide.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1199256/Dr-Kelly-did-commit-suicide-insist-13-doctors.html
The thirteen doctors say the evidence suggests that he did NOT commit suicide, and they want the inquest reopened.
If I was a doctor, I would slit my wrists properly with a scalpel or other super sharp blade, not a blunt gardening knife.
My sympathy to Dr Kelly’s family for the distress caused by continuing discussion.
And if it should be found that alastair and tony covered up an assassination with the hutton whitewash??…………………………………….
I do so hope that they get the coroner’s inquiry that they want and also the release of the suppressed autopsy report.
it will have MI5 stamped all over it
Nice one bud.
the attending paramedics always said there was not enough blood for it to be a suicide and the amount of drugs found in him may have knocked out a field mouse but not much more.
I do believe I am correct in saying that this information was not presented at the enquiry. Will stand corrected if wrong.
The establishment will never let that happen. Too many other high-ups would be implicated. Such is our transparent honest country!
http://therantingkingpenguin.blogspot.com/2009/07/doctor-david-kellys-ghost-wont-lie.html
The Penguin
Pretty obvious to me that Dr Kelly was murdered because he KNEW that there were no WMDs in Iraq and what is worse he knew that Tony Blair knew there were no WMDs in Iraq and therefore Blair was breaking international law by taking part in the invasion and he knew he was breaking the law. The whole Hutton fiasco was deliberately blown up from a passing comment on the Today programme of no real consequence just to provide an excuse for burying Dr Kelly without a proper inquest and to distract attention away from the possibility of murder. Murdered by persons acting on behalf of MI6 who in turn were working on behalf of John Scarlett who had Kelly killed to protect Blair. Scarlett was then promoted for his actions.
It’s one of the few stories where it is possible to believe conspiracy over cock-up.Doubt if we’ll ever be allowed to learn the truth.
If you were a doctor and wished to kill yourself, slashing your wrists would come about 15th on the list of ways you would choose- assuming that number one was the most effective.
He wasnt a “real doctor” of course. Having a PhD in microbiology and being an expert in warfare probably doesnt give you much knowledge on rapid or pleasant ways to die. Can’t even raid your cabinet for a bit of morphine.
I just wonder who are these “13 doctors”, and whether they’re GP’s, PhD’s or just people who’ve bought a certificate from somewhere abroad.
What channel is this program on?
There are actually Specialists and Consultants.
What is your source for that? The BBC?
Quite a few e-mails “vanished” too regarding the death, must be with the CCTV of DeMenzies shooting.
Funny that.
In any case a man of that caliber would have left a note for his family if he were intending to commit suicide.
Two weeks before his daughter’s wedding. That’s particulary strange.
I dunno. Women get really really strange when their wedding is coming up.
And murder the guy who would be paying for it?
Well … did he say he wasn’t going to pay for the harpist and the string quartet?
There’s a lot of static in the air but I’ve caught myself breaking into a big grin while walking down the street when I remember Gordon’s in charge. He’s a Stephenson, a Brunel, and a Nelson all rolled into one. Britain needs less bullshit and contrariness and more, um, joyous industry. We have our wires crossed but with a little American style confidence and Oriental style teamwork we’re good to go.
How do you keep getting internet access in the psychiatric unit?
That’s really your own demented demesne.
AA-EERRRRKK! ALLOSAYLER! ALLOSAYLER!
Charlie boy rings the bell and all the dogs salivate.
Would you like a tissue?
Only if its new.
I would!
Got some thanks !!
Keep your sticky tissues to yourself. Euugh!
lol
Joyous industry? Arbeit mach frei.
“……a big grin while walking down the street…”
Kraft durch Freude.
Don’t read it….don’t read it……don’t read it…. you don’t have to!
Brown would have to stand on his mother’s shoulders to kiss Stephenson’s arse let alone Nelson and Brunel. You really are a know nothing fuckwit.
Yeah right – *newspapers* bugged Diana’s phone…
Squidgeygate is one of the great ignored stories of our time. WTF was MI5 doing?
However, on the Guardian, yes you’re right. I wrote on their stories shortly after this all broke that there was *nothing* there. The sheer pace of the way the story appear and was rapidly followed up by a John prescott letter, publishing on Cif, then the Campbell piece, published on Cif, indicates (well, yes, obviously) that this was orchestrated and coordinated; and I think we can guess by who.
But there’s sod all there. I think Nick Davies was sold a pup – it’s a great shame as he was building up a nice rep and FEN is a great read, but I reckon he has been stitched up by his corroborating source who, if you read the stories in detail, isn’t described as a cop but someone who “has access” to police files. That *shouldn’t* be someone in Whitehall, but could be, although more likely is a CPS minion.
It all smacks of desperation from within the Labour camp that Coulson was doing some major damage on Labour and so has to be destroyed at any cost.
Just think of all that Government sponsored advertising for “Non-Jobs” that the Guardian is going to lose post the next General Election!
Shame isn’t it!!! They’re already making a loss, a change of government would drop a massive amount of their revenue overnight.
The Grauniad are as much as part of Liebour’s “Client State” as the long term ’sick’ and unemployed – and we wonder why they are doing Liebour’s bidding for them!
In other “terrible” news the independent is going having trouble paying it’s bond holders.
Bye bye.
Auto trader is the key to GMG’s survival. As long as AT keeps making massive profits GMG will keep going.
Apax partners ( 50% stakeholders , private equity, Ronnie Cohen ) are bankrolling the whole shebang and as long as they have auto trader they will survive.
So far as i am aware the hypocrisy of financially surviving thanks to carbon spewing cars, trucks and vans has yet to occur to anyone on that paper.
LOL It wouldnt occur to them never does occur to hypocrites
Listened to a Twit ex-soldier today saying Cameron was playing Political Football with the ‘lack of Helicopters’ issue. Brown DECREED 175 BILLION POUNDS to bail out his backers (you can bet the Unions will get a HUGE minimum wage increase too,to keep their members’ jobs further secure from unskilled competition).YET he can’t find a few hundred million pounds to buy or hire helicopters to help protect our own flesh and blood. JUST WHO is playing football here!!
Typical AlJaBeeba plant call to the ultimate ‘plastic scotsman’ Drippy Cambell phone in.
He couldn’t get the phrase ‘Cameron…Political…’ in anymore without sounding like a total hoon.
That and the pathetic ‘I challenge Cameron to come on this show’ nonsense the man sounded like an idiot.
He couldn’t answer the one point Drippy made about why it was okay for Gen. Sir R. Dannat to ask for support but not the opposition. After a momentary pause he returned to ‘Cameron… Political…’ etc etc etc
BBC should be razed to the ground along with Toynbee, Guardian, entire spineless cabinet (add your favourite here).
Methinks Guido has a dog somewhere in this fight between Murdoch and the Grauniad.
He’s acting cosy towards Murdoch – always a bad sign.
Or is Guido’s jealous of the Grauniad’s scoop?
I was waiting for Guido to picture Murdoch with a target on his head.
And ditto Gates whose shit operating system is now targeted by Google.
But Guido worships power – eg sending pizzas to the IDF; eg saying move along there, nothing to see about the NIW’s criminal snooping.
Maybe Guido will explain himself, or maybe not.
Tony
Maybe he doesn’t give a toss what you think?
I see no scoop
The only scoop they have at the Groaniad is a poop-scoop.
“eg sending pizzas to the IDF”
ah yes, it all fits now. Guido is trying to bring the IDF and Murdoch together so as to arrange for simultaneous 1000lb JDAM strikes on White City and Kings Place.
Hmmm……
Is there curently a shortage of antipsychotic medication in the NHS at present?
Any psychiatric nurses here today who can answer that one? Thanks.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Blair%27s%20law
Blair’s Law: “the ongoing process by which the world’s multiple idiocies are becoming one giant, useless force.”
I have to take issue with the word ‘useless’ there, unless it means ‘contrary to utility’. If it was ‘useless’ (having no purpose or effect), we would have so much less to worry about!
http://frontpagemagazine.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=35544
Fatah: “Our Goal Has Never Been Peace”
The PA will resume violence and terror against Israel when Fatah is “capable,” and “according to what seems right,” Fatah activist Kifah Radaydeh says in a PA TV interview. She states openly that peace is not a goal for Fatah:
It has been said that we are negotiating for peace, but our goal has never been peace. Peace is a means; the goal is Palestine.
Radaydeh says that “armed struggle” has not been ruled out and will continue, depending on how “capable” the PA forces are.
The biggest media story of the year? oh yeh, stemmed of from A Neil, Toenails, Robinson, BBC News, Guardian, Prescot, it does look like it takes one to know one to me, oh I think we can include T Watson in that list as well (I can’t stand that pinstripe suit Watson wears he does need to have words with his tailor)
Guido, where are the other article(s) of the day? Takes longer to load comments too.
Sack your site architect!
Definitely takes longer for comments to load, must have had a web site overhaul.
When I told the police I thought that inter-agency cooperation in my city was poor the produced report said I was wrong and my local councillor swallowed it. Funny thing is, the National Audit Office only issued a report the other month that said I was right and it had the numbers to back it up. I doubt I’ll get an apology or have them spontaneously review their other findings that I’m not commenting on.
You should pay attention to my comments, because I’m (pretty much) always right.
You are just like watching a looney tunes cartoon and waiting for the coyote to get twatted by roadrunner
Know what the E stands for in my name?
Enlightened.
Go figure.
You are that most ridiculous of things, an arrogant and deranged loon. Go play with the your soft toys and try not to soil your nappy.
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!
‘Ave you seen that film ‘White Mischief’, luvverly, my Doris ‘as too.
those who say do not know…
Funny, I thought it stood for ‘Excrement’
‘E’ er well because it’s best after charlie ?
CORRECTION:
‘You should pay attention to my comments, because I’m (pretty much) always right.’
SHOULD READ –
‘You should pay attention to my compost, because I’m (pretty much) always shite.’
lo!.
Sorry lol !
The simplest theory is that its just professional pride, and them thinking that their own stories and their own little world is far more important than is really the case. Anyone want to go for that?
BTW: Is that “vampire chick’s bums” vid getting more clicks than piers morgan in the nip?
Yawnn… will normal service be resumed as soon as possible?
Regards,
Tom
Once we had the potter’s wheel – now we have bloody stupid idents.
Nice to see something constructive for a change.
The Brown/Balls/Mandelson triumvirate should get the Guardian and the BBC to back off on this one. There is no new information or allegations here. Spinning there is something new here destroys what little professional credibility they have left.
It is ill advised to go to war with Murdoch no matter how much you despise his tactics and influence.
All this muck throwing just stops the electorate caring and voting; perhaps that is what the unmandated Mandelson and Brown want.
Yep, Murdoch plays a very long game. They’ll regret ever having crossed him in due course.
The Guardian’s story has been good publicity for News International and Rupert Murdoch. People who felt a bit iffy about them now feel sympathy with wronged parties who’ve been victims of malicious political libel.
CiF writers are a steaming pile of shit. The Graun will pay any madwoman (it’s usually women) to write something provocative in order to impress advertisers by bumping up the click count.
The big danger is that these nutters are now seen as the opinion-formers of the elite ruling class, despite their being totally out of touch with broader public sentiment.
… cont
These bien pensants who increasingly dictate public policy seem to think we are all abstemious, gay-hugging, climate-worshipping, Muslim-loving atheists obsessed with Israel and other weird places. And if not, we should be.
Fuckem all.
Since when did this ‘Select Committee’ employ anyone? They may not like it, but Coulson is employed by the Conservative Party. He’s not answerable to the likes of Watson.
Cameron has every right to tell the Committee to fuck off – and, I think, should do so.
Come to that, so should Coulson.
Perhaps Coulson wants to do it to their faces?
Disgusting!
[...] fight against the surveillance society is over Monday, July 13th, 2009 GUIDO is unimpresed by The Guardian’s “monomania” over The News of the World hacking story: Peter [...]
Thanks Guido
They have a big thing on ex Home Secretary in Saturday’s Guardian. She doesn’t say whether she was bugged… or whether she was told
http://moralorder.mediumisthemess.com/blog also reveals details of expenses claim
29,000 paid politicians – costing What? Do we need that many MPs and Councillors – plus all those earning from Quangos, not forgetting the few million Public Servants.
What bad news are the Guardian trying to cover for NULab by trying to rehash a 2 and half year old duck.
This government takes the lead on spying on people with millions of cameras.
What a dirty business Politics has become under Gordon Brown.
Costing £1/2 Billion per annum, according to Today.
If they truly wanted to crack him all they need do is lock him in a room with Polly Toynbee and Michael White for 15 mins.
When it comes to MPs employing inappropriate people in a professional capacity, the winner of the award goes by a mile to Clive Betts, Labour MP for Attercliffe who employed a Brazilian rent boy as a Parliamentary researcher after having “facilitated” his entry into the country.
See attached link.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200203/cmselect/cmstnprv/947/947.pdf
That is not a story.
The Brown doctrine of positive investment, sensitivity to market realities, and the long, long view are key to overcoming a lot of the structural issues at the heart of Britain. It’s going to take a while to bite but any short term pain is worth it in the end.
However you cut it, this is better than being a failed state. Developing better industry that doesn’t live on bullshit, a sociable society, and a good measure of contentment are good goals but we (that’s you and me, buddy) have to haul ass at our end as well.
Move along now, nothing to see here.
It is a story, and a juicy one at that. Betts is a sad old queen who disgraces parliament. Ok, nothing new there, but it IS a story.
I thought that was the one from Manchester who doesn’t know anything about hunting, but knows he doesn’t like it, dame geraldine kaufman. Or do they all do it ?
Thanks for the recommendation.
Clive Betts was criticised for bring in and employing Brazilian rent boy lover on taxpayers money but Mandelson did the same and got away with it.
Mr. Halfwitted, with people like you out and about on ‘Care in the Community’, this IS a failed State.
I think Clive’s actions also “facilitated entry” somewhere else….
Well frankly they are not what one would call a serious newspaper.
Look at how they tried to spin a lie about that ICM/BBC poll this morning by saying the majority of those polled supported the Afghan War and then at the bottom of the article, where they hoped nobody would notice, having to admit that 42% wanted our boys home now and a further 14% wanted them home by the end of the year . Total of 56% being a majority.
They appear to have spun lies over the phone hacking too.
Like gordon you can’t believe a word they say. Why would you spend good money buying their paper only to read unsubstantiated smears and outright lies.
It’s all in the presentation, that’s what they’re paid for including Andy Coulson.
You lot don’t half whine and squeal.
If it is pointed out to the electorate that Cameron’s spin bob is a former Editor of the News of the World, that in itself is sufficient to do significant damage the Conservitudes.
you see before this spat, they didn’t know.
‘Aunt Mauds’ don’t buy the News of the World or the Sun, they consider them repugnant.
Roll on YOUKIP.
You tedious little wanker.
The Penguin
For Cameron read News of the World
Do you think he’ll talk about his home life – or would that be tacky ?
Tony Blair, responding to a “five times a night?” inquiry from the Sun, confessed: “At least. I can do it more, depending how I feel.” Cherie, meanwhile, was content to tantalise nobody by intimating that Tony was well endowed. Clement Attlee may well have turned in his grave.
BOO!
MB, How old are you my little chicken?
182 20
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=43957&c=1
Circulation Figures
Grauniad 336,034
News of the Screws 3,028,302
and with Gordo as PM the voting ration will be similar.
The News of the Screws has better screamers too. Jackie Ashley as Voilet Elizabeth just doesn’t do it for me.
Ofcom that’s the story
FFS! Three hundred thousand people actually buy this piece of shit???
They’re all people looking for well-paid positions in government non-jobs. Get ready for another 336,034 lesbian community support officers.
They are all libraries, quangos and government offices.
QE has stopped the contraction of money, exactly as it was supposed to do.
An analysis of Q.E. actions does not support a strong cause and effect relationship.
The question is as to whether or not Gilts can be sold in sufficient quantity to support the scale of public borrowing, now that the Bank of England has stopped purchasing fifty percent of the issue.
Read this:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/3739718/one-crisis-after-another.thtml
QE is a scam. Pay attention to the graph showing where the funding comes from. BoE prints money, Treasury spends it. When QE ends it’s going to be like all the bad bits in the bible…
Tim Congdon is never wrong, ask Anti Citizen One.
Which money measure was contracting?
So far QE has been an almost unqualified success. If M4 growth shows signs of slipping beneath the 5 per cent number, the Bank should have no hesitation in expanding its gilt purchases. The priority must be to ensure that the quantity of money continues to rise, so keeping the menace of deflation at bay.
The M4 figure means very little at present.
Banks are propping up their SIVs rather than lending to customers.
The Guardian, don’t you just love it?
I used to read it but have found it’s increasingly childish, arrogant, patronising and 100% new labour bullshit. It purports to be a newspaper but it is full of new labour propoganda quoting spin as fact without any disection. Still, with the likes of Michael White, Polly Toynbee and Jackie Ashleigh as lead writers (hahahahahahaha) what can we expect. These three particularly think, believe, that they are our betters, that we should respect their every pearl of wisdom – if they talked any sense then you might want to at least ackowledge their existence – THEY DON’T!
Alan Rusbridger’s journalistic values must have been lost somewhere because all he provides now is a ragbag of rubbish. Matt Seaton at CiF is an idiot. University rag mags are more intelligent. The Guardian with a declining circulation and severe intellectual difficulties is finished. Good riddance
It’s for big girls blouses – the newspaper where tits talk.
I’m sure you find the current bun more on your level
Gordon was the longest serving and most successful Chancellor in British history. Within a year of his leaving the helm of Number 11, the economy lay in ruins. The finance minister in Germany – Europe’s wealthiest state – called our economic plight “pathetic”. Without Gordon’s careful and brilliant hand on the tiller, our trade deficit became the worst ever and national debt higher than when Britain lay battered and broken after six years of fighting for its very existence in World War II. Imagine the chaos should Gordon heed the demands of the eighty five per-cent of the electorate and leave Number 10! People would be in the streets, crying.
Stay with us, Gordon!
Yeah crying with JOY!!!!!!!!
I likes charles ! he is the best argument for retroactive abortion i have ever come across [pun intended].
and a source of endless satire
It’s a reminder that despite protestations to the contrary that, other than in the blogosphere we don’t have a free media in this country; we have a bought-and-paid for one.
What should worry the Grauniad is that this didn’t take off either politically or in media terms. As a piece of positioning it was classically defunct. And more, if a screaming lead story complete with backup and follow up from the BBC didn’t work, what does that tell them about their waning influence, if they can’t now launch a straightforward media onslaught?
And if they are now measuring their success on the basis of follow-on coverage, then they’re playing for effect and are not really independent journalists but players on the political stage and, as such, they’re undemocratic and unaccountable. As much part of the problem as those they criticise.
The tactical mistake they made was to target Coulson so directly and so immediately. That ensured that anger at Westminister would be muted and that the politicos, who have every reason to want to stick the boot into the media were instead divded on strictly party lines.
Far better to have raised the general issue first and then obliged DC to contain his backbenchers’ anger before asking the polite quesiton as to the status of Coulson. They’d have had the ’second wave’ coverage which usually does for those involved.
Amateurs.
Stop giving the idiots ideas!
When on the first day they ran with this story they kept mentioning Coulson it was so obviously a party political stitch-up that everyone bar the BBC soon ignored it.
When the followups became nothing but personal attacks the rest of the media saw it for what it was and quickly ignored it.
Well done to DC for standing by his man straight away in the face of critisism, as long as there’s no more skeletons to come out tomorrow, he’ll be alright.
Did Coulson give evidence at the trials or a police statement about it all?
I can’t imagine someone as savvy as him being caught out by a bunch of MPs asking [mis]leading questions so they can get on the telly.
As a seasoned NoW hack, he made his excuses and left.
I have damage my sphincter with a strawberry opal fruit
It wasn’t big enough. You’re still blogging.
Post 80 has just arrived from 2001. Opal Fruits? Where have you been, man?
A Rowntree’s fruit pastille stuffed with semtex would have done for him!
pmsl!!!!
Opal fruits!
Made to make your eyes water
If Coulson must resign because he was either incompetent or lying about not knowing when he was editor of the News of the World then doesn’t the same argument apply to Gordon Broon. He was in charge during the Downing Street smear campaign so he is either lying or incompetent and must resign.
One of the first things that Cameron must do when he becomes prime minister next year is to stop the millions of pounds of taxpayers money given to the Guardian every week for advertising public sector jobs.
The very first thing he must do is to castrate the BBC and stop it pumping out pro-Labour, anti-Tory propaganda.
How old are you?
Thirteen?
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Cease and desist; vice squad detectives are on route to your location.
ah, work for the beeb do we, Master Baiter?
13. Unlucky for some.
Actually, I’m 11 and 4 months. As an end of year project, Miss Sprynge-Shewte, our History teacher, suggested we learn about political bias in the main stream media. I volunteered to do a blog post. She suggested the topic of job advertisements as she is a Daily Mail reader and doesn’t want to buy another newspaper to look for a new job. Apparently our SATs didn’t meet targets yjis year.
Which is why I find this whole “story” very strange. The Guardian has just given Murdoch a massive slap in the face. He knows this a Labour smack in the face, an election coming up and Murdoch against you is a very bad thing. The Sun, the Times, Sky etc all printing anti Labour stories (wait until the Summer). I mean you have got to be really fucking stupid to take on an entire news group as big as Murdoch’s with a nothing story. No Evidence, denounced by Scotland Yard straight away and a load of hear says. On top of that, you have a newspaper funded entirely by advertising from the Government Purse. So when Cameron gets to no 10 you can say say goodbye to your extra revenue, and AjaBeeb will be tossed to the ground like a piece of rubbish.
Funny thing is, I think that this smear is about Norwich, it is an attempt to try and win that seat (this is Gordon’s head should they loose and have a whole summer of mutinies). Are the Guardian aware that they are part of Gordon’s Scorched earth policy? Are they aware that they like the Labour party will cease to exist shortly after the election, my guess is that they really have not thought this through, which is why it comes direct from GB, the guy couldn’t organise Burger party in Mcdonalds. The irony is that they are going to have to continue the stories as if they don’t it will expose them for the rubbish they are talking.
Ofcom
Ofcom have 812 staff doing……something, and costing a fortune. It includes a ‘Spectrum Framework Review’, however, which is a giveaway. Ofcom must be a cover for Spectrum in its battle against the Mysterons. How are things at Cloudbase, Captain Scarlet?
PayTV
Why are Ofcom creating review frameworks for obsolete computers? Nostalgia? Or economising?
The Norwich North by-election may well be behind the timing. But even if the Coulson story succeeds, it will have little effect on the result.
A Tory gain is a ‘racing certainly’. Paddy Power’s odds have shortened from 1/6 to 1/14 since the writ for the by-election was issued. Although Pickles is still trying to focus the efforts of his activists by claiming that the by-election remains a close two horse race, the reality is that Labour risk being beaten into 3rd or 4th place by the Greens and/or Lib Dems.
Labour voters very much see the by-election as a ‘referendum’ on Brown’s leadership. They are prepared to lend their votes to any party if it resulted in Brown being toppled in October.
Good.
Tom Watson sitting on a select committee asking questions about smears, hackings and character assassinations.
How appropriate.
Very good nell, I had missed that little gem.
Tom watson asking questions about probity and standards, that’s a bit like asking turkeys if December 25th is a great festival!
He was hand-picked by AC.
I wonder what alastair thinks to these 13 medical experts calling for a proper inquest and saying that they believe Dr Kelly was probably assassinated?
He’s locked in the lavvie shitting himself.
It’s even on Pravda now:
Calls for fresh Dr Kelly inquiry
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8147454.stm
Dr Kelly was pushed and pushed, this whole story has been covered up and truth needs to be flushed out in the memory of a man dedicated to his job and for the sake of his family.
What does the Grauniad have to say about the latest allegations concerning the suspicious death of Dr Kelly? Or are they too busy executing Labour’s orders of the day to do some real journalism?
I AIN’T GIVIN UP THE DIGGER’S BUNG, NOT ME, NO WAY.
Being honest, or getting real is key to Zen Buddhism. Too often, we tell ourselves lies or bear grudges. We may think we’re better or worse than we really are, or someone hates us when they don’t, but it’s just our imagination playing tricks. We have to live in reality whether we like it or not so it’s better to let go and live it in all its glory. After all, why not? You owe it to yourself.
This is exactly the position Gordon Brown is taking but misunderstandings and partisan attitudes from vested interests are getting in the way. Really, the problem isn’t and never has been with Gordon Brown but their ego couldn’t accept it. However, once ego is taken out of the equation it creates a space for enlightenment to arise.
Very good, grasshopper.
Charles, I must say that I prefer your old profile page. Although I do feel like a guest at a surprise party awaiting the guest of honour.
Best not tie a rope round your knackers though.
Charles, I am sorry to say that the weed and the Tennants must be wearing off because you are becoming boring.
Every time I see one of Schrewie G Lardhead’s offerings I’m reminded of Weston in C S Lewis’s ’sci-fi’ trilogy. Just the same sort of time-wasting claptrap, pointless getting bogged down trying to argue with someone who sees black as white.
Coulson “unaware” that News Of The World was shit:
http://www.thecrunchtimes.co.uk/
Brillo pad pubics of course! He was a notorious shagger in his younger days.
Hence the expression She’s a Bright C***
Wasn’t Brillo the chap who had a wardrobe of suits ruined by some disgruntled ex-bint? She cut out the crotches from every pair of his pants.
As soldiers die in Afghanistan the Guardian still chases the head of Andy Coulson, their partners in crime the Labour party and the BBC have backed off fearing a public backlash over obvious point scoring against a political party as a priority over the safety of our Troops.
Not so the Labour loving Guardian not only do the conjure up a poll saying support for the war remains strong (there must have been a lot of Guardian and BBC staff in this sample) they devote column after column to keep this non-story alive.
When John Prescott and that reborn again Labour spin-master Alistair Campbell have the sense to drop it and the Guardian does not you know a Faustian pact has been struck with Labour. Independent journalism it is not.
The NoTW will have more claim to quality reporting than the Guardian after this tawdry episode is cottoned onto by the general public.
As the NOTW has just written -”If the Guardian has any evidence of wrong doing by NOTW staff then it should pass it, immediately, to the police.”
‘In other words put your money where your mouth is’
They won’t because they can’t because their story was unsubstantiated.
‘Quality’ journalism indeed!
If there had been significant evidence against Coulson, he would have been in the dock with Goodman and Mulcaire. He wasn’t, so there isn’t.
The story was killed stone dead when Yates of the Yard said that Plod wanted nothing to do with it. Coulson will play a straight bat to the Parliamentary committee, the PCC will find nothing it didn’t already know, and that will be that.
Sorry, Grauniad, but the Liebore spin machine has used you, and when things did no go accourding to plan, has hung you out to dry.
Leave the Guardian alone. Its closure would be a terrible loss to the richness and diversity of the British press.
We have already lost the Pink Paper, an organ for gay men, lesbians and bisexuals, which Peter Tatchell himself lamented. It has left a big hole in the market.
Filling holes is what we do best.
Assholes Mainly.
The Guardian. Still as snide and repugnant as ever.
Interesting piece at PB on the voicemail intercept story.
The claim of ‘thousands’ of hacking attempts was across all media – not just NOTW. That’s why the media aren’t running with this, and why Coulson was no more or less to blame than anyone else involved.
Did you read more into the hacking story than was there?
http://politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2009/07/13/did-you-read-more-into-the-hacking-story-than-was-there/
What PB are doing is pointing out exactly what the Grauniad said, whihc is not quite how it was reported by many.
The “thousands” of people were being targeted by private investigators. A subset of these PIs’ investigations were under instruction from the NotW, many others were under instruction from other people (not necessarily other journalists, possibly the usual crop of estranged spouses, employers etc).
The story was then spun for all it was worth by the Grauniad, BBC, Liebour etc, until everyone else slowly saw it for the storm in a teacup it really was. Nothing new to see here, move along to the next story please…
We know that you can hear us Earthmen. Return our replicants Kol-Sson and Gor-Don who have fulfilled their mission to spread confusion and disaster on your planet! If you do not, our retaliation will be slow, but nonetheless effective.
praise guido and his profits peace be upon him
culsin is a big winker and allah will help guido fuck his picket fence
Of course Guido wants the Guardian to lay off Coulson. He believes in the same “ends justifies the means” approach to journalism as the NoW did under Coulson (and probably still does). It should be remembered that by his own admission Guido was trying to sell hs McBride evidence (obtained by whatever means – but certainly sufficently underhand to warrant the destruction of hard disks) before he was given some legal advice that such a course of action would damage his public interest defence.
And do we here anything from Coulson, his relaxed friend, or Guido for that matter regarding how they want to change the stinking culture that pervades much of British journalism. No they are extremely relaxed to allow things to carry on as before.
I’m afraid the stench of hypocrisy is over powering – does any one seriously believe that Guido would be trying to downplay this if it had happened under the watch of someone in the Labour Party press department.
Perhaps in the interest of openness Guido might want to reveal details of all his email communcication with Coulson??
The Oaf GuidOrcs loves the stink.
Boo hoo, your split personalities have come out to play again MB!
You don’t get this blog thing on the left do you.
Guido is a private individual, not a public service, he can do and say as he pleases and we can comment as we please. He owes us nothing.
Where is the successful left-wing equivalent of this site? Can such a thing exist for a political ideology that is inherently hostile to the individual?
Silence
(boo, hoo)
“does any one seriously believe that Guido would be trying to downplay this if it had happened under the watch of someone in the Labour Party press department.
Only those gullible enough to believe that the News of the World wasn’t up to it’s neck in illegality and that the EDITOR, Coulson knew nothing about where his stories were coming from.
It’s a matter of honesty.
We are led to believe that Guido isn’t just another arm of the Conservative spin machine (Headed by ANDY COULSON) and that he reports on corruption, gossip and scandal whomever it implicates regardless of Party affiliation.
Guidos stance on this no doubt pleases Cameron, Coulson, Murdoch and all those Conservartives too partisan to care about what the papers get up to or who is in charge of their mans spin, but for those of us who aren’t so Partisan it’s another nail in the coffin of impartiality.
If I wanted pure Conservative Spin I’d go to Conservativehome.
Tory boys never grow up ? What , like getting real jobs, working in the real economy, running real businesses , employing real people – not living off the tax payer in one of the approved nulab acolyte methods !
You are a deluded fcuk wit and I claim my five pounds !
Fuck off ya deluded Geordie twat.
Here’s one for ya, Kev.
The Pussycat Dolls are paying at Noocassel in September…
Ladbrokes have them odd on to win.
I had a cat once, called smoggie. He was a persian blue.
Any newspaper that employs the dreadful (I have a villa in Italy) Polly Toynbee as a columnist must be really scraping the bottom of the cesspit. The Guardian is simply a comic for tree-huggers, dreamers and all those that contribute sweet FA to real life.
Top right link on main page:
“Prescott Phone Tap Reveals Obsession with Chip Butties”. Now that’s the lead story the Guardian should have gone with, might have restored some credibility to their pretence at being a serious Newspaper.
Prescott Phone Tap reveals Tax Payers fund new Pigeon Loft
Pies, Pies, Pigeon Pies you bring me nothing but Pies (Mighty Boosh.. ish).
I would love to be Coulson tomorrow
You use rent boys
You take coke
You cheat on your family
You are a proven liar and thief
That should shut the fuckers up
Trouble is it could also be said about his own team
Bob “my brain hurts” Ainsworth on his hind legs in the HoC now looking and sounding even more like a donkey than ever!
“60% more ‘elicopter frames….” says gospodin Ainsworth as “Teech” Joyce offers his encouragement and extensive experience in military multiple-choice exercises. They seem to think that everybody has the same needs as the PBI.
Twats.
60% could mean just 3 more if there are only five at the moment.
I ain’t gettin’ on no frame!
Rammell was deploying the same percentages bollocks on The Daily Politics earlier. Brillo ripped him a new one by way of thanks. They really must think the public are idiots if they think this kind of tactic will work any more.
Brillo also mentioned Hatty Harperson’s latest pronouncements on Daily Politics about ….’T't people oop north being discriminated against’.FFS.She’s obviously been mixing with Dolly Draper Hatty is playing to Nu-Liebor’s client state.She is worried abouth the GE.They actually interviewed an old dear from Newcastle who said that people didn’t understand how hard it was for them in the north east.Well, it ain’t f……..g easy for people in the south either dearie.
What really pisses me off is that people from oop north,especially in her area have had a disproportionate sum of money spent on them courtesy of all their Nu-Liebor Ministers. 60% of them also work for HM government.
Hatty really is a nasty piece of work.Perhaps she would like to give her job to somebody from oop north. As for representation I’d say that oop north is far better represented in the Cabinet than darn sarf.
Brillo of course didn’t really take this at all seriously.Does he anything now except the NOW thing? He is crap as a serious presenter.He’s just an old tosser now.As for that woman he works with.She’s just a sneering useless ex Guardianista.Greg ‘Roland Rat’ Dyke was on the show.He didn’t really have much to say except about moving the BBC t’t oop north.
I spent my time at college oop north.There are some really exclusive areas.I don’t just mean Cheshire either. The pound goes a lot further oop north. So people really do have an advantage there.Cheaper houses,food etc yet they get the same money as people darn sarf.So I’d say that we are discriminated against not them.
Ignore the whingers, Jan. You get ‘em everywhere. Most of us people oop North are very happy with their lot, and listen with smug self-satisfaction to constant droning about traffic on the M25, tube strikes, blah, blah. I mean no offence to anybody living in the South-East, but wild horses and much fine gold would not drag me down there.
As to cross-subsidising of areas of the country, it just evens out the money all over. Think back to the days when the industrial powerhouses of the North and Midlands bankrolled the country, and most of the money was syphoned off elsewhere – a great deal of it for the common good. Not much different now, the country’s earnings are (supposedly) used for the common good, though any of us can argue the details, and frequently do.
P.S. Hattie Harperson has form when it comes to spouting tripe. She most certainly does not speak for me.
Hell on Earth is sitting in traffic on the North Circular on a wet Sunday afternoon in January. So it ain’t all fun in the shandy drinking South.
Thanks for your incisive observations that not everyone in the north of England wears a flat cap and works at t’mill but really that says more about you than them. You really ought to get out more.
EEEE HAAAAWW
Oh dear. Is Guido still defending this grubby little tabloid scum.
Let’s hope the stink from his dumpstering trips won’t linger and contaminate all around.
Wish Coulson had tapped phones of those concerned with the death of David Kelly.
Though I am not an espouser of conspiracy theories in general, the convenient ’suicide’ of David Kelly’ has always troubled me… especially its highly unlikely supposed cause, and the swift knocking on the head of any possibility of a genuine inquest…
Hurrah for the 13 medical consultants! Time for a look by Guido and friends?
The debate in HoC with bob ainsworth is a shambles. tom watson has just spoken and looked like a confused bumble bee.
Liam Fox just taking the debate into the need for helicopters – americans have eight times the number of helicopters to more safely move their men about – then we have
bob ainsworth can’t even pronounce helicopter properly – says inefectually that they are doing everything possible ..
what he means is that they are doing everything possible not to put better equipment or more men into the Afghan arena.
What a shower!
Just watching it now, Ainsworth is another idiot Hoon.
Ms. Dorries just asked a question on mental health of veterans. She was thanked for her question but it wasn’t answered properly, only by saying that the government were working on it (as they are with everything)
Would helicopters have prevented the recent fatal casualties among UK troops in Afghanistan?
Some of them yes.
The two soldiers killed in the Vikiing vehicles would not have died.
That is not true.
Course it is
If a helicopter had been available ot take them to their instead of travelling by road, they could not have been killed by a roadside explosion.
The army have been doing this for years in Ulster – so crap from MPs about learning are seen for the outright lies they are.
MB, shut the fuck up please.
Dozens of the British deaths in Afghanistan have been due to roadside bombs and IEDs. If we had moved people around routinely with helicopters (as the Yanks have always done) rather than lightly-armoured Landies, than a number of these deaths would have been avoided.
You’d best take it up with Liam Fox MP (Con), Shadow Defence Spokesman for Her Majesty’s Lyal Opposition in that case. He has admitted today that none of the recent fatal casualties would have been avoided if there had been more helicopters available.
You’re very suggestible.
They’d have been alive if they were travelling in the MRAP vehicles that the Americans are getting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oshkosh_M-ATV
M.O.D have 6 chinook helicopters stuck in a hangar, never used, cost tens of millions, procurement cock-up, still not fitted with flight software, have been sitting there for Years gathering dust.
Playing with words as usual. Fits in with what Fox said:
“resorting to spin rather than confronting the life-threatening reality”
MRAPs are not helicopters.
Perhaps the goverment need more advice try this guy
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1111702/John-shot-fired-Reids-50-000-Iraq-security-job.html
The Americans are getting THOUSANDS of MRAP vehicles delivered especially for Afghanistan.
The UK forces have but a few, and they’re too heavy for the roads.
Don’t do real war very well do you MB, just like the bungling shitholes you work for! Now back to Games Workshop for the afternoon shift.
Baiter’s ‘mother’
Are you still in the Pub, has that man from the News of the World been offering you money again?
@ Resurgemus 315. John (£50,000 pounds) Reid says: O what a lovely War!
If money had been spent on fixing the infrastructure of bridges, troops could travel in more heavily armoured vehicles, the weight of which can’t be borne by the bridges in their current state. Helicopters are only one factor here. Basic military engineering work seems not to have been done, hampering operational choices.
The Gorgon is now speaking which means the whole defense team are on the front bench. Mainly to prop up “in theatre Ainsworth”
Proppin’ ooop ?? I don’t need proppin oop.
I’m every bit as competent as Gordon Brown is as prime minister.
It was always my secret ambition to tread the boards, but I’m in the army now.
Hitler had all the right ideas
Shame that the Hoon crossed those money grabbing Jews.
Who cares?
Nobody but a few swivel-eyed loonies reads the Grauniad anyway.
It’s only kept afloat by the government adverts.
All these people care:
http://news.google.co.uk/news?pz=1&ned=uk&hl=en&q=%22andy+coulson%22&cf=all&scoring=n
And obviously Guido cares too…
Eat my shit ‘Carlos Marcos’ they is only room for one of my alter egos on this site!
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!
Wi’w ya?
Ainsworth, Jones, Rammell…..The MoD is now populated by the sort of people one used to see in little groups at the end of station platforms with notebooks and BOAC bags,
Did one still have teeth then?
Dear dear MBs material is getting thinner and thinner, only a matter of time before he shoots himself.
British Overseas Airways Corporation.
Chocks away!
It’s just that MB won’t let you fellate him if you have teeth.
One still has teeth now. Why d’ye ask?
Over all, I’m in command here.
Ageist (another to add to the hate speech list).
It’s a fact of life, especially for people of a particular generation in the UK with it’s poor tradition of oral hygiene for people to be big sterodent fans. Isn’t it?
Noone is saying people like that can’t make smearing comments about government ministers in the context of the slaughter of men, women and children in Afghanistan, if they want to.
Perhaps your priorities are open to question you shambling fool.
For what they are doing to our soldiers, they are lucky to get away with only verbal abuse.
If you think it’s just smears against our wise rulers, why don’t you sign up for the Army and find out what it’s like first hand? And before the predictable response, yes I have served, but fortunately not in a war.
I’d be amazed if you could find a single member of the services with anything good to say about this Labour government or its ministers.
The disgusting thing we have seen today are the PM and ministers spinning percentages to make themselves look better. They clearly place no value on the human life of our troops.
Still you remain a shambling fool.
Helicopters would not have avoided the recent fatal casualties in Afghanistan.
What is the Conservitude position on Afghanistan?
Answer: wibble wobble wabble
Keep it up Coulson, you have the depth of a cucumber skin and the insight of a marble.
Is it because they’re mostly white and working class that you don’t mind squaddies being killed ?
No, is that why you don’t care?
Quite the contrary
Your answer is yes?
Of the 184 dead, some would have been saved if there had been more helicopters.
Plus, it’s not just about helicopters, there is also the:
1) Lack of adequate vehicles
2) Lack of body armour
3) Lack of troops (e.g. request for 2,000 reinforcements not met)
4) Reports of ammunition shortages
Then there are the very great number of wounded casualties that could have been reduced.
Dr Feelgood
he’s not worried by the statistics or the people behind them.
Spinning away a bad headline is all he cares about
100,000 anoraks taking a tidy slice of the defence budget.
Polly Toynbee = The over diameter turd in the truckstop urinal.
A real worker in a tabard will have to clean up this liberal mess
Bob Ainsworth. Former sheet metal worker, (like Gorbals Mick) trade union activist, former “candidate member” of the International Marxist Group, and now in charge of our armed forces.
Says all you need to know about how fucked up this country has become under NuLabour.
Absolutely right. Dave Cameron, George Osborne, former leading lights in the Bullingdon Club and world projectile vomiting pairs champions (I believe the title is hereditary in the Bullingdon). Shit, we’re really screwed – both lots are as bad as each other.
Hey anon a penis, I’m the only real Labour propaganda monkey on this site!
Mum, can we have fish fingers tonight?
Course you can dear – ram them up your rear end.
Chocolate fingers Chorley?
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!
Have you been to Happy Valley in Kenya, no nor ‘ave I.
My Doris says it’s gawjeous!
But he thinks he knows much more about the conflict than Generals and the boys in theatre, total tosspot union scumbag
McSnot on his feet……. watch and weep
Alky-Ada is back
al-qā’idah
apparently
SterAdent
actually.
Don’t use it myself – checked with my father who does and is very old.
Are you sure you didn’t check with ‘one’s father’?
Your father?
What would an itinerant Liberian deckhand with a predeliction for Southampton dock-gate totty know about effervescent denture care products?
That a six hour soak will kill most known germs.
That’s good to know. I’ll have Ainsworth draw you a bath then.
Don’t you mean:
One will have Ainsworth draw you a bath?
Anyone else refer to themselves as one?
Ainsworth is not bad in water colour: it’s oil that he has trouble with.
Tell you what Baiter. Just take it as read that I’ve written what I mean and like Victoria Street lubricant there’ll be less friction all round.
Don’t you mean one has written what one has meant?
One no longer gives a feck.
didn’t know she’d gone away
The son of the manse must have finished his lines given by Voldemort this morning – write out 500 times Broon – ” I must not let my beard upstage me when I go abroad”
Global leadership!!!!!
OK, I admit it, Ainsworth is a bungling shambles of a fool. Gordon appointed him using his magnificent ability to rule this nation our ours,
Oh, ermm, I see, oh.
The Fuhrer has, this day. produced 1000 tanks from nowhere to push back the horders from our gates.. drone, drone blah blah etc zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
here come those tractor production figures….
“This summit will be known as The Climate Change Summit” the Gorgon.
Really…more like Silvio’s babes and “what the hell are we doing here summit”
Tractors are yesterday’s production stats – it’s all helicopter statistics now.
Rammell would not answer on the Daily Politics the ? of the number of helicopters. Talked in %’s saying it was not a good idea to say the actual numbers as it gives the enemy confidential info! Which are something like, there were 10 and now maybe 20. Why don’t they send some of those machines the army have that were on Top Gear last night. You just drive over the bombs, easy.
He’s droning on about climate change now…..more ways of screwing taxes out of us.
That’s not very nice, is it, and yes I am gay.
Dave on his feet. This is an improvement on PMQ’s
Beeb of course cut dave off mid way through his speech….
Beeb cuts back just in time for dave sitting down and Broon speaking again….you couldn’t make this up…well done Beeb! You really are impartial! Not.
http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=4509 is a live feed – Broon is back to being a twat again, saying that all is wonderful in Helmand.
Apparently helicopter numbers are up by 60% in two years – sounds like helo stats are the new tractor stats…
60% increase from 10 = 16, hot a lot of choppers
What from 5 to 8?
Dear All
I have to disagree with the Guardian’s stance, Coulson has been punished once.
There is no need for further action.
Losing his job was enough.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
the pills are working!
Dear The Master
“the pills are working!”
Do I really need to be informed that you can now get a hard on?
Have you told George Osborne?
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Good. There’s nothing worse than making unsubstantiated allegations. It can be a very expensive mistake to make.
Dear Prick
That doesn’t apply to people who steal from me.
Finally, what is that smell?
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Dear Prick
I almost forgot every allegation against you made by me is backed by audio tape and University of Glasgow documents.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
BBC + Guardian = Stasi Labour (don’t you know)
The comment about Coulson needing to come out of the select committee hearing ok is spot on – but the idiot Watson is irrelevant. The man to watch for is Paul Farrelly. He is both bright and an ex Reuters and Observer journalist – so will, no doubt, have all the inside info from the press side. Should be interesting. Personally I would like to see Coulson skewered – not for any political reasons (I hate them all) but because NOW journalists would be my first candidates for a new eugenics law.
People may remember the deliberately tight tax position the Tories left behind and some rather cruel legislation that would’ve forced anyone who was unemployed out of their homes and into hostels. Gordon Brown’s circumvention of this with PFI has helped created a better NHS and repealing cruel law has helped create more winners.
Go and wank yourself stupid, Charles. You’re about due for your mid-afternoon toss.
Even a Labour lickspittle such as myself has to admit that any Party follower who thinks it good tactics to spout this metronomic diarrhoea has a serious screw loose.
Bloody hell MB – for the first time in weeks I think you have posted a sensible comment, one that most people here will agree with. You are to be commended!
Seconded.
Take no notice of the Steve Expat above he’s some late night call centre drone, 60p an hour.
That last one is either TwAT come back to haunt us, or MB who doesn’t know a compliment when he sees one. Money on the former….
No representation without taxation. I really should fucking shut it.
484, nice to see TwAT’s multiple personality disorder has returned again…
Are you sure your real name isn’t Benjamin Button,Chuck?
It seems the older you get the more puerile you become.
More helicopters on the ground next year…….. WTF!
I’m sure the forces would prefer that they were in the air – those on the ground are the unservicable ones, surely?
Churchill used to mark important memos with ‘Action this day’ and woe betide anyone who failed to do so.
We are stuck, 8 years, into this war with the pathetic figure of Brown spinning percentages and making empty commitments for next year.
If the MoD went into the open market with an open chequebook they would be able to source some better vehicles and ‘copters much more quickly. We could even do a ‘lend-lease’ with the Americans – I am sure they would be happy to help if it keeps UK ‘in the game’.
This whole situation is yet further evidence of Brown’s:
1) Parsimony
2) Hatred of the Armed Forces
3) Incompetence
4) Indecison
5) Lack of imagination
6) Lack of leadership
You forget that Churchill helped the US clean out the UK using precisely such arrangements.
Not bad for an alcoholic son of syphilitic parents.
Still you remain a shambling fool.
What a nice way to talk about the man who saved the world from the Nazis – this says a lot about your personal values (or lack of).
Plus, your ignorance of the history of the war is risible.
What’s up?
Don’t you like the truth?
Churchill was dragged out of oblivion to kow-tow to the US because of his American heiress mother.
He was booted out of office in 1945, following the landslide general election victory of the Labour Party.
Get over it.
I told you not to mention ze var, you fuckwit!
I repeat my previous comment – that seems to cover it.
That’s a nasty lie about Churchill and your arguments become increasingly lame. Unlike Brown, when Churchill was defeated by the very thing he saved – democracy – he had achieved something few other men could have done.
Brown’s sick legacy is that he has whittled away democracy, decimated the armed forces and racked up debts which will take generations to clear. He may well have succeeded in what Hitler failed to do to this nation.
Dick to Mock,
Dardanelles
There’s a lot of doctors on here today.
I’ve got this pain in the neck that appears every time I come on this blog. Any advice?
Master Wanker
Katyn Forest. Socialism inaction.
My great-grandfather was at Gallipoli – so Master Baiter, you silly little boy, I am not going to take lessons in the history of Churchill, WWI & II from a ignorant child like you. Read some history, get some education.
Chinooks regularly lumber clumsily through the sky above our house like lazy drunken bumble bees… on their way to Brize. For the life of me I can’t see why such huge slow-moving craft don’t make e-a-s-y targets for any Talib with a simple shoulder-carried RPG. BUT if they will help stop eighteen year olds getting blown up by roadside IEDs, blasted Broon should pay up ,and get that mothballed bunch of them properly converted.
……..I have ended boom and bust……….
I don’t want to know about Mc twats perverted sex life.
Please Jonny foreigner – please can we borrow your shiny helicopters?
No Englander – f*ck off and buy your own !
The Guardian has decided to invent some rumours instead of just spreading them.
That sounds awfully like a damian mcbride scam. Perhaps he’s acting as consultant to the guardian – under cover of darkness of course.
To be fair, the Guardian still does a decent crossword.
5 across: “Perfectionism comes from short education in the butler’s domain (8)” That’s ‘pedantry’ – ‘pantry’ with ‘ed’ in it. Get it? Clever, eh? It gives all those public-sector recruits something to do in the morning, so that they can save looking-out-of-the-window for the afternoon.
I agree. Their crossword is the best. It s the only thing about The Guardian I still miss.
steve bell as well
But not Martin Rowson, who is slick and heartless.
The TV Guide on Saturday has been a favourite in our house but last week I decided that I could no longer bring myself to part with £1.70 to help pay for Polly and the GMG’s tax haven. I gave up on weekday issues many years ago.
Simon Hoggart used to be amusing but he was never the same man after the Kimberley Quinn/Blunkett saga broke.
The Telegraph TV guide on Saturday is v. good.
The Telegraph concise and cryptic crosswords are undoubtedly the best, but The Daily Mail Word Wheel is devilishly good fun!
& Martin Kelner on a Monday
oh to be in Japan
http://tonybrookes.efx3.com/2009/07/13/taro-aso-and-gordon-brown/
The Vazman just asked a question about Yemen because he was born in Yemen. Give me strength
Labour isn’t imploding. They’re crouching before they pounce. All hail Blessed Leader!
Crouching before they what? Not sure ‘pounce’ is the right word…
Why is there a “u” in the middle of that word?
More likely to be ‘mince’ in Mandelson’s case.
No crouching would be fine – rather like Scar in the Lion King. Maybe Jeremy Irons could play a Mandy figure if they make a follow up to ‘In the Loop’
In view of NuLab’s history with regard to the control of bladders and sphincters, I’m not terribly sure that a crouch is the wisest position for any of them to adopt.
A “crouch”, are we talking… the human giraffe?, second only to a lamp post for heading ability inside the penalty area.
Well said Charles old boy but I think you’ll find there bent over double with cramps and there arsehole is about to explode with diarrhoea. From a man who invented the High Fidelity chip, the LCD TV panel and the TSR-2 fighter bomber I would have expected you to be more accurate.
Kin ‘ell, Mr. Halfwitted ! Why has n’t your Probation Officer picked you up from your after school literacy classes ?? Doing detention again ??
crouching bugger, hidden douchbag.
Charles, didn’t mean to read your drivel but, did you mean to write ponce where you put pounce?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko4nmdYGEDE
Another gut wrenchingly poxy day in Brown’s Britain.
Do not show this to children
http://blogs.ft.com/westminster/2009/07/no-worries-mr-chairman/
I love this guy. He’s gonna kick Gordo’s butt.
BTW, the sooner we get a UK version of Fox News the better. There’s too much of a media consensus in this country towards the liberal left.
nobby, have you ever watched Fox News? It’s really not what we want here, propoganda is propoganda no matter which side it comes from.
What we want here surely is an unbiased media – one that is willing to debate issues intellectually, and prepared to put both sides of a story forward for the public to make up their own minds..?
It’s not gonna happen Steve. I’m not saying they need to be as full on as the American version, but enough is enough. The cosy media consensus in this country must be forced to change through competition.
Just look at Guido’s blog as an example, where things can be said that would never get anywhere near an airing in the MSM.
Tele and newspapers are old technology. Only radio seems to be holding its own, remarkably (thanks to the sterling efforts of Terry Wogan).
Tele and newspapers are old technology. Only radio seems to be holding its own, remarkably (thanks to the sterling efforts of Terry Wogan).
PS
Wogan is a moderated word! Ha!
Nobby, I think Sky news is more impartial in politics coverage, but I would much prefer to see the BBC (which of course we all pay for) take a neutral stance and actually have some fair debate, rather than the endless pro-Liebour drivel we have to put up with at the moment.
Honest debate is what we need when we’re in the shit – as we are now. It’s better to have two impartial channels than one blatantly left-wing one and one blantantly right-wing one; which would let everyone listen to one side’s spin only.
There are a large number of Liebour voters that need to be persuaded otherwise, that will not happen if all they ever listen to is Liebour propoganda.
1. The number of politicians and their advisers on the UK public payroll now tops 29,000, BBC research has found.
2. Between 25,000 to 30,000 criminals are involved in the “long tail” of a serious organised crime business in Britain that is worth more than £30bn a year, according to a study published today. (Joint report, by the Cabinet Office’s strategy unit and the Home Office).
3. Coincidence that these figures tally?
The Buddha neither sleeps nor dreams
He must be awake then.
Oh my worthy friends gathered here, exhaust your words, empty your thoughts, for then you may more fukky appreciate Mr Brown
prefer to empty my bowels as a sign of appreciation of the sottish fuckwit
I must confess!
I sent the Grauniad (my fave political party, Uncle Max and a few others) a brief treatise on how to hack into mobile phone networks (as given to the Drug Squad by me, back in 1986!)
I included in the covering e-mail that the method was the ONLY way that a quality recording of the “Squidgy Tapes” could have been made.
……… and you can take THAT one to yer bent banker!………. or BT engineer……..
rofl
……….. and I’d lay you 100 – 1 on that your mobile account is being monitored 24/7!
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[...] from Coulson and pretending not to know him, to Guido Fawkes who insisted that the Guardian were wasting their time with the whole issue (today shown to be not the case at [...]
[...] came out to distance themselves from Coulson, to Guido Fawkes who insisted that the Guardian were wasting their time with the whole issue. Yesterday showed that not to be the case at all. [...]