Polly is Rabidly Pro-Politics
Polly is moaning again: “The blogosphere could have been a source for better information, but purveys even more rabid anti-politics bile.” Guilty as charged.
Of course it could equally be said that Polly is rabidly pro-politics. Which of us is right? Polly with her frothing at the mouth endorsements of one social democratic politician after another, or Guido, warning against believing the promises of politicians?
Since the days of David Owen she has seen her hopes dashed by one social democrat after another promising her a good time and big government spending. You would have thought that she would have learnt by now, they all fail to deliver in the end and to expect more from politics is to delude yourself. This is not cynical nihilism, this is the age-old reality of politics.
Polly has singled Guido out in the past, saying that he couldn’t write about politics well because he has no sympathy for politicians. If Polly looks at the polls she will see that none of the voters have any sympathy for politicians. Which of us really, truly understands politics: Polly with her over-the-top endorsements and flattery of politicians, or Guido with his anti-political cynicism. Who is rabidly unrealistic?
See also : The Class Contradictions of Polly, For the Love of an Older Woman and a philosophy of life that is anti-politics.
Can we see Polly get bitched slap by LittleJohn again? Please please please? We’ve only seen it a few thousand times before….
Polly put the kettle on
She did – but it didn’t suit her.
Spent 10 minutes registering on that stupid site so that I could post a comment about her stomach wrenching bile that was rejected. All I wanted to say was shut you stupid Hunt Polly. Why don’t you just fuck to you’re Villa in Italy and stay there you could write a book and get advise of Draper. If she loves socialism so much why doesn’t she cock off to Russia. They would love her out there. These people need to be in funny farm medicated up all day to prevent them from thinking, it must be a very frightening experience so they replace it with a fantasy of their creation.
I’ve never read anything by her that did not make me piss myself laughing. And then I found out she wasn’t trying to be funny. Weird woman.
Ireland: please, PLEASE – say NO! (again!)
I’ve always had a healthy mistrust of people with stupid surnames
Toynbee probably derives from Tenby.
Tenby = shithole = sphincter
Need I say more?
Tenby is beautiful, you hoon. You’ve never been there, obviously.
Toynbee’s silly name is nonetheless a very famous one in Britain. She is the idiot spawn of British academic and philanthropic royalty.
That name alone got her an Oxford scholarship on the back of one dodgy A-level, despite the fact she failed the 11-plus. Says a lot about Oxford. (I must re-read Porterhouse Blue. She’s the female version of Zipser, minus the brains).
She is a scarred, chippy, hateful hypocrite motivated by resentment of the fact that she’s just about clever enough, thanks to her expensive education, to perceive her own inadequacies, but she’s not clever enough to perceive those limitations within the context of a wider world. For her, there is always someone to blame for her own shortcomings. And she’s turned that insecurity into a finely-tuned, shallow political belief system. That she found a comforting home among socialists is therefore hardly a surprise.
But she’s fairly dangerous not just because she’s a stupid woman with a column in a major newspaper, but because she doesn’t know she’s stupid – and because she was born famous. Crazy though it is, people listen to famous people simply because of the fame.
But her star’s on the wane; her family name has drifted off into obscurity. Without it, she’s a nobody (like me
As Guido suggests, it’s time for her to retire.
sometimes Guido slips into a churchillian but bullshit rhetoric mode.
considering all his good work we should forgive him this fairly insignificant intellectual flaw.
Guido has a couple of these flawed fixed references.
one of them is that israel is holding the line against the barbaric muslims.
utter tosh ofcourse, and considering guido is a propagandist himself it is amusing that he can be so shockingly gullible.
his other hobby horse is telling people not to vote.
in other words let the motherfuckers carry on as before. useless Guido, an absolutely fucking useless strategy.
DISCOURAGE THEM – VOTE INDEPENDENT
we must fuck with the programme and if we want an independent parliament it will need a transfusion of independent MPs.
Thick. And a Thief.
pickled finger of hate,
what a well constructed argument you present!
retard.
Not all muslims are barbaric.
Most are just mediaeval primitives with a violent streak.
er, I think you are confusing them with the christian crusaders like tony blair, gordon brown, dick cheney, donald rumsfeld and george bush.
now those warmongering c’unts are what you call “mediaeval primitives with a violent streak.”
we learned that crudades were no longer profitable as long ago as the thirteenth century.
shame your warmongering christian mob didn’t know their history, innit.
Bush, Blair Cheney, etc are not Christians, Christians follow Christ, not their own agenda. The crusades were a response, a reaction, a reply to Islamic barbarity. All through history, without exception, muslims have been killing Christians and Jews. When none are available, they kill each other.
polly is a first class hoon , like a two dollor hooker
She’s a mad old bag with an increasingly tenuous grip on reality.
It won’t be too long before she’s waving one of those purple tins around and shouting at passing traffic.
doesnt she do that in da gaurdian ?
Two dollar hookers do not have first class hoons.
Smelly hoons resembling a badly packed kebab more like
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What was buried by ZNL today?
Has the Euro constitution been agreed on the nod?
Is Anthony Charles Lynton Blair now Grand Wizard of the Euro SuperState?
Is Dame Peter now Lord High Codpiece to the Stars and has HMTQ as a Hand Maiden?
The cheating fucks must have buried something.
PS – Where is Jo Moore these days?
Oh Here goes…
£60Bn Giveaway offshore
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8120432.stm
o/t is anyone missing geoff hoon ?
No. Thieving cnut.
Jonah has declared himself as Chief Mourner. He very much admired Michael’s tireless striving to lift children out of poverty. Like Chandler Jordan, for example.
The Penguin
Really I couldn’t give a fuck. Thirty hours in a fucking airport and the destination is the UK. Could Jackson not die next week the horrible bastard.
Polly its time to retire after the election you will also be unemployed
Does anybody pay attention to the ravings of this deranged old bat? She only writes for her dinner party set, i.e four chipped plates and a cracked teapot.
The utterley VILE Polly once stated that Bill Gates moving to Albania would massively increase that country’s GDP. Anyone with an elementary knowledge of economics laughed and she was mocked for being too thick to understand the difference between a stock (which Gates’ wealth would represent) and a flow (yes, any local current expenditure by BG would add to Albanian GDP, but hardly enough to affect it materially).
Did the exposure of her ignorance curb her arrogant pronouncements? Alas, not.
She has a small brain, but a huge ego and – unfortunately for us – a gigantic gob.
And a fat wobbly arse.
She sounds like gordon in drag!
She looks like Gordoom in drag too!
its a triplet set with susan boyle
I think Gordon’s the cracked teapot
If you get my drift
She failed her 11 Plus,went to Holland Park and managed to get into Oxford with one A Level…..Nobody else would have been given that opportunity with such crap results. (Except Prince Charles).What a f………g liberty.
Yes, one ‘D’, wasn’t it? Presumably thousands of people with better results weren’t offered a place – and she has the gall to say that education matters.
What matters more is having a famous name, obviously.
Best of all, she did 1 year of her degree at Oxford before dropping out.
All the liberal elite mafiosi like to encourage their own…the Kinnocks, the Blairs, the Harm Man-Dromeys, the Handlebums…….
If she votes social democrat how can she continue to expect them to deliver their promises?
I use to read Polly’s articles just for a laugh, I don’t bother now I go straight to the comments, much better journalism there.
An overwhelming majority rip her a new arse every time she posts an article.
I doubt she reads the comments.
The Penguin
“Don’t encourage them. Don’t vote.”
Bollocks.
Or, as Plato put it, “Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are idiots”.
And haven’t we had enough of that ?
The answer is surely spoil your ballot. It’s the only way of sending them a message that is a positive affirmation of our authority (‘I don’t want any of you representing me’) rather than a hold your nose protest vote or voting for the most likely candidate to unseat the incumbent. They can spin no votes as contentment. They cannot spin spoilt ballots.
A lot of people don’t vote because they don’t have anyone to vote [i]for[/i]. We’re told if you don’t vote you don’t have a voice. Perhaps we’re not told we can refuse all the candidates officially, on purpose.
I wonder if a publicity campaign educating voters about the option to scribble and scrawl on your ballot rather than not vote, be subject to the same rules as party political broadcasts?
Send a message. Spoil your ballot.
I’m going to disagree. Surely what we need now is a change of government?
The only way to do that is to vote for anyone but the incumbents. That means voting for whoever has the best chance of beating Liebour in every seat they hold, irresoective of who you would normally vote for.
I would like to see Cameron and Clegg agree not to fight each other for votes in a few seats by not standing a candidate and gettting their support behind the other party.
Some constituencies will never ever elect a Tory, so why not have the Tories campaign for the LDs there and make sure Liebour get voted out??
Yes we need a change of Government but I’m talking about getting the non-voters to pipe up without them having to pick a candidate. They aren’t going to vote because they can’t be bothered, don’t think it’d change things or have no one to vote for.
A massive increase in spoilt ballots, even if it didn’t change the outcome of the election, would be impossible to ignore.
Clegg and his gang of numpties, Lembit anyone? will never go along with the Tories because everytime they become fractious, Labout mention the magic letters, PR, ie blow sunshine up thier bums. Result? roll over and wait for their tummies to be tickled! Wankers!
If you spoil your ballot they just write you off as too thick to understand where to put the cross.
Agreed. Voting for the “Apathetic Party” is what got the country in the mess it is to-day.
That Plato sounds like a smart guy, but he didn’t figure on New Labour stealing votes and elections by rigging the postal voting system in their favour, a few judges have acknowledged the “improved” New Labour postal voting system is fit for a banana republic.
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Spot on Guido.
When we stop playing, they have nothing. No power, no “systems” and no money.
Tell the crazy 646 you will not play anymore.
No offence, I agree totally but why do you all think they bring in immigrants.
Contary to popular belief I don’t hate immigrants and i don’t want to sound patronising but alot of them not educated to the fact you don’t need to vote and only doing so only encourages the gov to rip you off but again not meaning to be patronising their too stupid to realise by voting for a clown in a suit from their own ethnic enclave that they aren’t changing anything.
Yet they think it’s some great conspiracy to hold them down.
I aint saying that in a racist way before anyone jumps on me let me finish my point.
I aint gonna vote for any colour mp cause they’re all clowns. but alot of immigrants are too thick to work this out at the moment. Even if you filled all 646 places with whatever ethnic or religious group nothing would ultimately get better.
The same applies to the BMP another set of white clowns in westminister wont change anything.
Not all immigrants are thick but alot of them are too thick to understand how the world and politics actually works or doesn’t as the case actually is.
They think we’re negative but it’s simply a case of them being naive and it’s not all their fault as many come from dictatorships so of course will be exicited by faux democracy and it’s illusion.
I think the ”civilised” world is actually slowly outgrowing governments, but to combat this the governments will import as many from the ”uncivilised” world as they can(benefits to capitalism and business aside) as lifeblood.
John Barnes = rubbish
John Barnes is known as the Woodentop in out house for his legendary performances hosting shitty football matches on Channel 5
Makes Gordon Brown’s Youtube performances look entirely natural
But he’s not as much of a Hunt as Gordon
But already they have no power and precious little money.
646 MPs appear to receive, including second homes allowance about 4 Jonathan Rosses.
Or have I done my sums wrong?
P.S. On a similar calculation the top 50 BBC bosses cost less than one Jonathan Ross
There are times I have tried to vote, but when I look at the list of names they seem to morph into something different and the list looks something like-
Crap
Shit
Excrement
Rubbish
Turd
Shite
and then I get all confused and don’t know who to vote for,
I don’t know who to vote for, boo hoo hoo
Oh god, doncha just get tired of these rich, handwringing liberals believing that anyone really cares what they think?
Polly, dear, your kind have totally messed up the country. You ought to quietly retire to Tuscany and rejoice in your wealth and good fortune, while the rest of us suffer for the next decade or more sorting out the huge mess your beloved socialist friends have got us into. Bye. Have a comfy retirement.
“Polly, dear, your kind have totally messed up the country. You ought to quietly retire to Tuscany and rejoice in your wealth and good fortune, while the rest of us suffer for the next decade or more sorting out the huge mess your beloved socialist friends have got us into. Bye. Have a comfy retirement.”
Or, to précis:
FUCK OFF!
Wish Yasmin Alibyebyebye Brown would f—ck off as well. She like Polly twitters on.Another one who loves all ethnic minorites but hates the English.
Yes! Get out of here. You and you liberals of all parties and of none have conspired to reduce this country to a wreck. Leave us. Go now before we lynch you.
In my neck of the woods the Toynbee PC disciples have been waging their class struggle on behalf of the great unwashed for years and its probably a guilt reaction to their own pampered upbringing with the result that the real working classes are looked upon as part of the establishment and therefore ignored or denigrated and anything or anybody anti establishment idolised.
They seem to fall into two categories “the buck tooth and bloomers brigade or the “all pains and pullovers” mob.Their common purpose however is the championing of lost causes, minority groups and making the indigenous populations life a misery by insidious but dangerous promotion of all things foreign at the expense of our own history and culture.
Polly writes “but what happens to a democracy where voters so despise those they elect that they no longer see any good in politics, despite the evidence of improvement they report seeing with their own eyes?”
Well Polly one of us is deluded and it ain’t me. What evidence of improvement have New Labour left?
She says this as well:
”Badly run areas (like Surrey) that are posh places will always score higher satisfaction than good councils (like Blackburn) with four-star ratings and a miserable populace. Where is the political justice in that?”
Those star ratings are bollocks. They are devised by the government and to get the top rating a council has to do everything the government likes. So if a council chooses not to translate every single document into scores of languages they lose points. Even if taxes are cut.
Personally, if I was running a council I would be proud of a no star rating, if it meant I could cut taxes. Polly and her silly star ratings don’t determine if something is well run. The voters do.
They did this in an episode of Yes Minister. Superbly run council given a rocket for not filling in their forms on time.
The sentence before the one quoted above @21 reads:
Most depressing for councils, satisfaction mostly depends on something they cannot change – the population: happiest places have most graduates, fewest children, least ethnic diversity, least population churn, most private housing.
What an inconvenient truth that must be to her. But then she is remote from all those lovely things like council estates, cultural diversity and other people’s brats.
And a total disinterest of the tripe she offers up on a regular basis.
Chilling. If the population won’t change voluntarily our political class will change the population to suit its own agenda.
Why do we have to pay for the translations and translators and interpreters and outreach workers and benefits advisers. If you want to live here, learn the language before you get here. If it is too difficult, don’t complain, just stay away!
It should apply to the Toynee family old stamping ground in the East End. This is now an ethnic wasteland of warring tribes of Banglas and those prize immigrants the Somalis whose contribution to Multiculturism was to import their particular brand of gang warfare. Bet Polly does not live in that area, not many whites do, only the old and poor pensioners who cannot get out.
…Blackburn? Lived there a few years back – what a polarised, edgy, backward shithole…
Yep, like the happy family doctors’ practice that was fined for failing to produce evidence on how they had handled complaints- fact was, there hadn’t been any! No good telling the jobsworths that, though- they went ahead and fined them anyway.
If dear Polly really believes there is “evidence of improvement” then she’s heading for the same calm, medicated environment dear Gordon will be enjoying within the next few months.
Polly is tremendous fun. Every column she writes gets at least 300 comments, the few lefties who dare to post get slaughtered by the Right, and she’s not afraid to let all comments, ( apart from the truly crackpot or obscene) stand.
I have a lot of respect for her practicing Free Speech in the face of an unremitting hail of abuse.
You’re right “Grumpy Old Man”: an astonishing amount of abuse is allowed to stand in the comments section following her articles. Is it her decision, though, or someone higher up?
I wonder how she feels about it? You know, seeing her socialist dream crumble to dust. Maybe that fat salary helps compensate for the feeling of loss.
And the Tuscan villa. I think it is her decision, other Guardian bloggers are much more precious.
I’ve had so many comments on CiF moderated for no reason it beggars belief.
And yet, they rarely are on Polly’s threads. I once wrote a comment that the HMG should take Polly’s advice, seize all of her property and forcibly house her in the Aylesbury Estate. It didn’t get moderated much to my surprise.
Perhaps there is a motive: look at all these nasty comments, best ignore them and listen to the nice author instead.
It’s a deliberate and extremely cynical ploy to raise the hit rate so they can charge more for ads. You don’t really think anyone at the Guardian gives a flying fuck what that daft old bag has to say for herself, do you?
I’m afraid that the flamers are just increasing the revenue for her employers, which will mean the paper will go bankrupt slightly less quickly than it otherwise would have done.
Steady on chaps, I sense some compassion creeping in here.
I would say that the Grauniad’s web moderators probably hate her just as much as everyone else!
She almost certainly has no say in the matter, is probably so old-fashioned she buys the dead-tree version and doesn’t even know the comments are there…
That is one(the only?) thing I will say in her favour.She does practise free speech and will allow herself to be mercilessly pillioried in the comments.Sometimes I wonder how she can bear to read them.
She is so up her own backside that she probably doesn’t feel the need to read them.
Am I on the wrong site? How the hell did I get mixed up with a load of Guardian readers? Must be more careful where I go.
She only writes and submits the articles she has no control over comments and never see’s them or reads her own articles after their published i’m lead to believe.
GGD. Merely carrying out the other side of a SWAT analysis. Monty hated the Germans, but that didn’t stop him from pinning a picture of Rommel on the wall of his HQ and wondering what the Desert Fox would do next. Old military saying . Underestimating the enemy gets you killed. Another – never givr the other bastard an even break. Wish DC would learn that one.
Monty respected Rommel and his Afrika corps. It’s even better when you defeat a respected enemy.
No one respects Gordon and when he is defeated, the feeling will be more like the one you get when you have to scrape some shit off your shoe.
All this seems to reinforce Guido’s point. Polly reminds me of the type of woman who is compulsively romantically attracted to the wrong sort of man – the type that beats her up, one way or another. Each affair fails, she slaps on a smile, and it’s on the to next asymmetric relationship. After a while it becomes habit -a bizarre life-style choice, in which no attention is considered worse than the wrong sort of attention.
More bizarre still is that Grauniadistas consider themselves self-aware, a trait they neither extend to nor appraise in Daily Mail readers. Yet despite its preoccupation with celebrities in swimsuits, the Mail is frequently prepared to address female issues in its articles that the Guardian, fully-armed with feminism, can pretend do not exist.
As usual, anti-ism is the only ism worth taking on board.
I expect she completely disregards them. She probably shares this ‘courage’ with the PM. It’s not courage to ignore something the way he ignores the people of this country, it takes courage to confront it.
Well earned!!
Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnn Polly. A serious suggestion, take a very very long holiday and then when,and if, you ever have something remotely sensible to say hopefully the dead tree press will have forgotten all about you and will have to ask themselves “Polly ???, Polly who ???, Nope never heard of her”
she’s a commie fruitcake
I am not interested in what that crappy old slapper thinks.
Neither are most other people, but as they are paying her about £100,000 per annum, her employers require their column inches filled with something.
I have a simple answer to this. I don’t buy the Grauniad.
No neither do I Eng! In fact once I did (can’t remember why – there must have been a good reason) and I scurried out of the newsagents, head down, praying I didn’t meet anyone I knew…
That’s what it must be like buying porn.
Try it. You might like it.
Certainly not!
(You meant the Grauniad, right?)
It’s one of life’s little ironies that the Grauniad crossword is by far the best around.
The new Berlinner format is a huge improvement — it makes it much easier to conceal the newspaper inside my copy of Razzle.
I did once buy the Sun (and I admit that with some shame) and it rather felt the same as you did, NG. I felt cheated as well; it didn’t take long to read. (Some of the pictures where quite interesting, though.)
No, no. Certainly not the Guardian. After all, there are some things which are simply beyond human endurance and sensitivities. Such proclivities are best hidden from public gaze.
Yes. falls foul of the Obscene Publications Act I think.
The Daily Telegraph cryptic is the best.
I’m with the contessa on that
Can sometimes manage about half the Telegraph quick crossword. Cryptic? Must have the wrong mindset, or maybe the wrong education….
DT still the best of the dead tree press, though not as good as it used to be. Matt and Letters are incomparable.
I’m a very clever bimbo.
Fishing for compliments, are we?
40 years ago Barry Norman used to have a very good column that made buying the Graun worthwhile. Now, zip. Polly twat shows how non-mainstream she is by not writing about MJ; maybe she will on Saturday to try and reclaim her credentials, along with all the other wankers in the MSM. Totally non-news, tossers.
Natch!
she gets loads from the extortion funded bbc and you probably get robbed by them.
The DT Cryptic is still the best around. Been doing it for forty years and actually got it done once or twice. Never bought the Guardian though.
That must be why you are still dodging coffins – all that mental self-flagellation. I must make a note to remember that in 30 years time.
Polly Toynbee, Steve Richards, Michael White, three people who take themselves very, very seriously. It is just a pity they coudln’t be serious when it comes to their politics, all three abandoned charisma at birth to wear the mantle of bleeding heart socialists.
The Devil incarnate could stick on the red rose of their beloved Labour party and they would campaign for him. Not a word of criticism would come from their wordy musings, just songs of praise as he organised us all to hell in a handcart.
I suppose in a way this would satisfy their socialist hearts, at least we would all be equal….Devil incarnate…Gordon Brown??? Nah couldn’t be..could it???
Gordon Brown the Devil incarnate? I doubt it. I think it more likely Lord Fondleson of Bhoys has 666 tattoed somewhere on his person.
Your wish is my command….
look no further
I’ll probably get accused of brown-nosing here, but you’re definitely right, Guido. We really don’t need most of these politicians in the same way we really don’t need most of these journalists.
For more than half in a year in 2007 Belgium just didn’t have a government (196 days to be exact). The country still functioned; streets still got cleaned; criminals still got sent to jail. Canada hasn’t had an effective government for ages and yet everything seemed just dandy when I was there a couple of months ago.
I agree with a previous commenter. Polly Toynbee should retire to Tuscany and enjoy the fruits of her labours. I doubt her newspaper will be around for much longer anyway.
Italy has never had a goverment since 1944. They seem to manage.
A good model to follow
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Brown noser.
Why bother with Jackson? I think Brown had him bumped off to distract us all from the mess he made of our once very strong economy.
We havn’t had a government since 1997
The only reason the Guardian remains in existence is from the adverting revenue from HMG for hundreds of non jobs, some of which require crossword expertise to decipher what exactly they are.
Ever since I heard that she pole-dances I went off her as a serious journalist. She’s just “totty” now.
No offence meant, but if Pollytwaddle is your idea of totty, you’re scraping the barrel.
Polly is well preserved, rich, and a pole-dancer. what more does a man need ?
Cept for the latter, you could be describing Hugh Hefner…Bernie ecclestone…Donald Trump…
You do have eclectic tastes
At my age, you can’t be choosy. Would you take pity on an old man?
No. My name already mud on the blog, but even I have limits….:-)
Your name is not mud NG (though others may be); you are always a breath of fresh air. (Creep, creep!)
Well, Joanna Lumley, of course!
Engineer, you are a very nice man. Cheers.
Keep on blogging, NG. You always add to the debate, and we all enjoy your contributions.
I’m off to watch Top Gear. Don’t usually, but apparently they are doing a race to the North involving a vintage car, a vintage motorbike, and Britain’s newest mainline steam locomotive, 60163 “Tornado” – brought into service last year. They’ve got Clarkson firing it up the ECML – or at any rate, getting in the way of the proper crew. Should be fun.
a paper bag ?
Does she have a huge wine-cellar and is she a nymphomaniac?
After sampling the one, you’d be incapable of satisfying the other.
Absent the smell of formaldehyde?
I seem to have stumbled upon a sp@stics convention.
I thought I was visiting orderorder but I must have accidently typed in sp@stics.com.
but I am glad to see all you retards having such a lovely time.
no icecream and jelly for you cripples though, think of the mess you retards would make!
oh and catosays, yes, new girl is a nymphomaniac.
I’ve just been sick
I would not want to her manky minge wrapped around a pole.
There’s just not enough mind bleach for that sick image.
Stop it.
Christ! Stop it! I may never eat a kebab again
My first qwestion Gordon – Have you ever fantasised over giving polly a hand job?
My second qwestion – which part of the phrase “Fxxk off moron” do you not understand?
BREAKING NEWS!
Gordon Brown has appointed Bubbles the chimp to the cabinet.
Mr Bubbles has many years of experience in politics and shares David Minidicks(it fires blanks) love of bananas.
It is hoped that Mr Bubbles will be a breath of fresh air in a moribund cabinet where having a worn out bright red arse is considered to be a career plus.
Mine may be red and swollen but there is plenty more mileage in it sweety.
Im free at 10 pm
Presumably he’ll have to be given a seat in the Lords.
maybe the fucking chimp could become McMental advisor ? Because all the other fucking monkeys around him ain’t got a clue !
A bit like Welsh politics really, ‘ in the Valleys they would vote for a monkey wearing a red rosette….. and frequently do!
“they no longer see any good in politics, despite the evidence of improvement they report seeing with their own eyes?”
Er, would this improvement be…ohh..where do we start? Gold sold off at rock bottom prices. One of the best and most stable pension systems in the world robbed blind by Broon. Stealth taxes. An illegal war. Lies and spin.
Massive public spending on non-jobs…yes Polly..I really can survive without gay outreach workers and diversity officers…I just want my friggin’ bins emptied… an education system that churns out kids for university who can barely spell – but then trumpets the lie that standards are better than ever.
Feral yobs infesting estates knifing and shooting, but a police force more interested in arresting whistle blowers for their political masters.
And, of course, a Government full of snaffling porkers with their snouts in the trough.
Yes, some improvement Polly.
Polly is rabidly pro-slavery. She’s a typical socialist who believes her self-interest is more import ant everyone elses. She’s more of a pig than Napoleon.
Polly is everything that is wrong with this country. Parasitic, out-of-touch, arrogant and nauseatingly stupid.
And wealthy, so she is immunized from the socialist shit she espouses, being able to live in a nice area, no worries about pensions, and knowing she can shove off back to Tuscany if the plebs here start getting too uppity….
She’s parasitically wealthy. She only got where she is because of nepotism.
Has she any good points AC1?
Don’t answer, I know she has none!
Yes and very ugly as well.
Powerful flash animation from ISIL there Guido, I didn’t even know they existed.
Thanks for the link.
Polly – what can you say about Polly?
She cannot possibly believe in the crap that she spouts in that oh so typical higher- moral-ground pinko lefty speak they all seem to employ. Na she sells her spoutings for the money and the ego trip and, of course THE BLOODY EXPENSES – no one could be that stupid.
Could they?
Polly – what can you say about Polly?
She’s very slow to put the kettle on?
No. She’s just very slow.
That’s a rather endearing thought, that after penning her articles she sits down with a G and T, opens the DT and says to he husband/lover/car/dog
“Right, lets see what Sir Michael thinks of that load of old bollocks, should keep the old queen quiet for a couple of days. I see Barclays are doing well, wish I’d bought some more”
She might even be New Girl.
Am speechless with indignance! My flabber is gasted. How COULD you Sir Reg???
You can get your flabber fixed on the NHS…!!!
Hello stranger! Where have you been Misog??!!
And those styles she wears! They look like they come from a thrift store!
Polly may indeed believe what she writes, in some deluded defence of a lifetime of wrong-headedness. However I have become convinced that the only reason the Guardian posts her articles on CiF is to boost the hit rates (inevitably upwards of 500 responses from incensed realists) to attract advertising. They will, lets face it, suffer grievously when the non-jobs advertising dries up.
Of course hardly anyone actually buys the Guardian. Most copies are bought from the public purse to lie about in Libraries, The BBC, Councils, Parliaments, colleges, the BBC, social workers in trays, the race relations board, The BBC etc. Most of Polly’s readers are online freeloaders.
And most of their revenue comes from ads placed by national and local government and quangos for non-jobs at public expense…but they still lose money.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/media/5553102/Guardian-Media-Group-set-for-losses.html
I have a funny feeling they could be really in the shit financially next year – all the non-jobs will be the first thing Cameron gets rid of once he’s got his foot in number 10.
A massive proportion of their revenue comes from these ads ‘cos the Grauniad has pretty much a monopoly on them, once the public sector starts firing rather than hiring the jobs section will get very small indeed
If the concensus here is that Cameron will lift a finger specifically to scrap the high-paying, politically-correct, upper-echelon, pretend jobs in local government and quangoes, etc., you must be as cracked as Polly’s teapot.
Albacore, he knows he’s got to drop a massive amount of public spending.
Do you think he would rather drop the clinical consultants or the management consultants from the NHS? The “Director of ethnic diversity monitoring” or three teachers for the same money?
Cameron is a centre-left Tory, the heir of Blair not Thatcher. His election as Tory leader was based on the belief that PR skills rather than policy development will win power back for the Tories. He was the candidate that could appeal to the marginal voter: the most electable face the Tories have produced since Thatcher, notwithstanding his Eton & Oxford pedigree.
What wasn’t predicted at the time of his election was the total collapse of the economy, the parliamentary expenses scandal and the fatigue induced implosion of the Labour Party. Although he has managed these crises relatively well, and is now in ‘the right place at the right time’, the question must now be asked whether the Tories still need “an heir to Blair”.
I am not advocating a change in Tory leadership, but a toughening up of sinews and a shift in the centre of gravity to the right. The next government needs a leader of ‘Thatcherite’ courage and commitment. He may be a wolf in sheep’s clothing, but it is time we saw some of the wolf’s teeth.
He’ll be way above the links in the decision-making chains which decide what to cut.
Great post Duck Island Blue. For what it’s worth, I think that Cameron will play his hand in the same way Bliar did – not revealing all his hand until after the election, but relentlessly critisising the incumbent government, knowing that that is probably enough at the moment to get him a landslide.
The more policies he announces, the more likely he is to start alienating people who would otherwise support his party, as being better than the current lot.
You are completely right that he needs to grow a pair though, I just think that we’ll have to waiti until he’s living in No.10 to find out how big they are.
Steve, you are right about it being unwise for an Opposition Leader to declare their hand on policies before being elected. It was not only Blair that did this successfully: Thatcher did it too in 1979. What happened with Thatcher though was less a sleight of hand but more her growth in confidence – aided of course by the Falklands War – that allowed her true colours to show through.
I would like to see Cameron show more steely confidence: disregard Brown and Labour and set out clearly and confidently the principles on which he intends to govern. His tone should be much more that of a politician in office than one seeking power. This isn’t as easy as it sounds as there is a fine line between arrogance and confidence.
Hey Guido – check out Polly’s alter ego:
http://www.thecrunchtimes.co.uk/html/090518potty.html
139.New leadership plot?
http://tinyurl.com/lhodde
Polly is a parasite on the host MSM political opinion staters. Just like many MPs,she’s got her arse parked in a lucrative and flattering berth,and no doubt feels the same contempt for the uneducated little people who, have no conception of the favour these elite do us, by opening their arses and allowing the wind beneath their wings,to waft over our ungrateful noses.
Ho yes
Listen you old bag, the political classes, of which you are a part, don’t give a shit about our opinions on anything.
The great and good decide amongst themselves what they are going to do, and the rest of us just have to live with the consequences.
So why the hell should we give a shit anymore about your corrupt Parliament and politicians. They might as well be an occupying power for all the say we have in the running of OUR country.
In dumbed down Britain, voting in mindless reality TV shows is about the nearest one comes to having an actual say in anything.
And that’s just how the political classes like it.
YES!
well said !
Couldn’t have put it better myself. Thank you.
Guido blog is PRO-politics – independent and opinionated – GOOD. This two party media whip is ANTI-politics, no true debate, no true REPRESENTATION.
Guido to go one on one with Polly
Are the dvd rights sold yet?
Naked,in mud?
Could we involve the horse from the last blog ? i’d buy that DVD !
At Glastonbury. On a Beltane. No reason to go with the usual market segmentation of these things.
Just turned on BBC News. The banner at the bottom says <Breaking News…Michael Jackson dead.
Just why am I being fleeced for that licence fee when the BBC’s breaking News is 24 hours old?
True. It ought to read ‘Breaking news: No change in the condition of Michael Jackson who died yesterday.’
WHAT????
Michael Jackson is dead??????
I’ve been watching the news all day and never saw anything……….
Dying’s cool everyone you get to fly in the clouds and spy on little boys and girls.
Sky news are doing the same, they still have “Breaking News” on the screen 24 hours after the man passed away.
At least we’re not all forced to pay for that though.
Has anyone noticed a any bad news buried today? Surely someone would have had a go but I haven’t seen any yet through the wall-to-wall Jackson coverage.
Reversal of education policy. They’re dropping a Bliar flagship policy and actually allowing teachers to teach literacy and numeracy as they wish. Grauniad website education section had it earlier, and Balls was on World at One squeezed into 5 minutes after a lot of Jackson stuff.
i have now died every five min’s for the last 24 hrs ! ” tee hee”
You were a drug-adled overhyped has-been and unconvicted kiddy fiddler. Cardiac arrest was too good for you. Where is the justice?
Should have been another one for the sniper, after Polly of course!
Look, the BBC have got something right for once, so stop complaining.
Have you thought about the amount of time the BBC has spent, on all its channels, telling us about the death of this nonentity? He was overpaid and so are the BBC top brass. They present blatantly biased programmes which they deny are biased. They reject out of hand, without any thought whatsoever, the possibility that they can ever be wrong. They refuse to publish, on spurious grounds, the Balen report which they commissioned to see if they are biased. If they were found to be unbiased, why have they withheld the report. They are a bunch of overpaid liars with an agenda set by the odious Guardian, from whose pages they found their present jobs. Funny that the BBC never places job adverts in the Daily Telegraph. Why do you think that is?
She wanted (or wants to be the editor of the Daily Mail) Can’t imagine her in a Right-Wing newspaper. Socialists make me cringe, because they don’t know anything about how to protect the working man or woman. They pontificate about it, but are just interested in feathering their own nests – and prevent others when they get to the top. Champagne socialism is the pits….
What is she for?
Long, long ago I did an A Level French course including Moliere’s “Le Malade Imaginaire”.
The principal character was forever taking enemas. For two whole years, modesty precluded my form from ever embarrassing our maidenly old teacher by enquiring as to what, precisely, an enema was for.
Well, whatever it is and does, I suspect that that’s what Polly’s for, too.
Polly doesn’t get it. She’s not slightly off, she is so far removed from the ground she is floating around in the stratosphere, along with all those politicians who think they can better spend our money than we can.
Truth is, after the mess the politicians have made of our economy, and in particular the country’s finances, defence of politicians and arguments for ever increasing amounts of public expenditure are laughable. They are not worthy of consideration, they are beneath our contempt. Polly’s line is not a defensible position, it is pure folly.
Politicians lie and cheat. They make promises in their manifestos which they never intend to keep – stand up Clegg and Brown – then turn around at tell us that because they know better than us they don’t intend to keep those promises. They claim ridiculous things on expenses because they think they are worth more than the sixty plus grand a year, when most of us would dearly love to earn half of that. They subsidise their drinks in the commons while forcing us plebs to pay huge taxes on booze.
No, politicians have a superiority complex, and so does Polly. It is time they were taken down several pegs.
Like many passionate socialists who loathe privileges for the few and hate the concept of private education, she lives in a mansion (complete with butler, maid and Polish gardener), owns a villa in Italy and sends her children to private schools. Like many passionate socialists who loathe privileges for the few and hate the concept of private education whilst owning mansions and villas and sending their children to private schools, the irony of this is entirely lost on Polly.
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Polly_Toynbee
She’d be better offrunning a charity shop. In Kircaldy.
Toynbee represents the worst possible kind of humbug – a woman who perpetually cries ‘foul’ but commits identical sins about which she vociferously complains.
The blogosphere makes it much easier to expose the hypocrisy of the rich and powerful.
That woman is well past her sell by date – these days she farts more sense than she talks
Bet she blames it on the dog.
That’s a no brainer, Guido – I’m sticking with you, mate!
Polly Toynbee is a twat her sole purpose in life now is to troll on the guardian with the most stupid stuff and stories she can come up with just to anger people to respond to her to secure her pay check and the guardian a healthy amount of clicks and comments to keep it afloat as no one gives a shit for it anymore either.
TEE HEE CHAMONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THE KING OF POP HAS SPOKEN.
YOU’VE BEEN HIT BY YOU’VE BEEN HIT BY A SMOOTH CRIMINAL.
She’s all over the BBC too – radio and tv. They use her as an all round social pundit. She’s boring and oh so predictable. The BBC probably think of her as a safe pair of hands. She’s been sporting recently a selection of ethnic necklaces to go with her variously patterned unfashionable and ill chosen clothes. Miaooooow!
You’re right, Countess. Definitely some grooming going on. I’ll bet she’s trying to find out what they’re paying Andy “Dumbo” Marr before she accepts an offer.
She wouldn’t do that would she? She cares for society, she’s a socialist!
“If Polly looks at the polls she will see that none of the voters have any sympathy for politicians. Which of us really, truly understands politics: Polly with her over-the-top endorsements and flattery of politicians, or Guido with his anti-political cynicism.”…Guido
I think Politics probably pre-dates the TV Reality shows like “Big Brother”, “I’m a Celebrity….” etc.
Basically the same game IMO.
This TV Reality show generation of viewers have seen the similarity, whereas all this stuff was hidden from my generation in a smokescreen of deference and pomp.
Hence not much interest in voting, now that the curtain has been drawn aside to reveal the true wizards of Oz.
Eeeeeer…………missususs……..has that Polly what has a pad in Italyever been seen at one of Berlesconi’s parties? Know what I mean?
No, Silvio likes his tarts to be good looking and younger than he is.
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Its so nice to hear that Polly has sympathy for Maggie, Redwood, Hague and co. I never knew. Now I come to think of it I bet she has a sneaking regard for Nick Griffin too.
DON’T YOU PICK ON MY MATE POLLY OR MY MATE ANDREW MARR I’VE KNOWN THEM AND THEIR FAMILY FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
YOUR CRUISING FOR A BRUISING GUIDO.
I think you mean “YOU’RE” you cretin.
The Penguin
Polly is still in the days before the interweb thingy and she still thinks she can pontificate on the crap she spouts and people will still listen to her and will only get a few letters to the editor who disagree with her,those days have long gone and people use the blogs to find out for themselves and don’t need her anymore.
Polly Twaddle Doodle is useful to the Grauniad in generating traffic to their website.
o/t
so who’s the person on the front row of the pyramid stage at glastonbury with the guido mask then???
Old Holborn?
The Penguin
The only politician sort of left leaning who could satisfy her is Bill Clinton and that wouldn’t stop her moaning!!!!!!!
He did not have sex with that woman!
Would rogering a polly be classed as sex or some sort of beastiallity?
try pollyfiller, it’s good for cracks
Get you sectioned for mental illness.
The Penguin
Oh yes it would!!
In short – FUCK OFF POLLY
Not really me. Must be one of the Leicestershire Waads.
Saffron Lane Estate?!
The politicians’ nightmare is Guido, the Tuscan, or indeed any self-determining individual with confidence in their own self-determined opinions. Their best and most productive harvests are achieved at the shallow end of the gene-pool. Why is any state funded education system you could care to name such a travesty – by accident? Government does not deal well with an educated and independent constituency, whatever they say to the contrary.
I have come to the conclusion that the state “education” system is there solely to get both parents paying income taxes.
Polly is a Leftie, right? Lefties naturally believe that Government must do everything for us. Therefore, she thinks that we should be grateful to politicians. Folks, Polly is mentally ill.
In the rational world, government should be as small as possible, and it should not be trusted. Therefore, politicians should not be trusted.
Only someones as wealthy as Polly Toynbee and her ilk can afford to be Socialist of any sort.
Gordon on £350,000 a year. Very socialist.
He’s worth about £2.50 and a bag of wine gums !
Hold the wine gums.
Hold the £2.50 and give him one wine gum for having the balls to turn up
Polly Toynbee, If she was a dog would probably be a King Charles spaniel. Droopy Eyed stinky breathed and a poophole that blocks up on a regular basis due to an over abundance of bumfluff.
What do you mean “If she was a dog”
Best laugh I’ve had all day.
Has Gordon kicked out Anne Keen the Junior Health Minister for claiming for private health care on her expenses yet.
Why shouldn’t she when COHSE negotiated healthcare insurance for it’s members? Paid for by the taxpayer? What’s good for the workers is good for the Junior Health Minister, says I
What can i get on Baroness Toynbee Of Tuscany within 5 years?
Whatever and whenever you wish to get on, dear chap.
Clue: Pleb, yet loony (it’s an anagram)
Brill!
Sarah Brown is so sick of the Kirkcaldy Codpiece she has taken herself off to Glasto with Naomi cambell to get down with the kids.
Very fucking socialist.
Tomorrow,after the rain, we’ll probably see her naked,covered in shit.
Bit like bedtime with Gordon.
wonder if she pulled ? hope the sport pappaz are on hand !
Polly Twaddle has been given more BBC air time recently than any other journalist.
She earns £106000 per annum
She owns a Tuscan Villa. (bet Tony loves her- why don’t you borrow my villa Tony to recover from the stresses of your troughing lifestyle!!!??? )
She’s a former BBC employee – (how much of our license fee was she paid for that?)
She attended an Independent School (nothing wrong with that but it won’t give you an insight into working class life which she claims to have).
She read history at Oxford. (Well she didn’t do it well enough or she’d understand why gordon is now coming to grief)
She spent eight months ‘experiencing manual work’ and then decided that she ‘understood the working classes’
Not a hope Polly.
What sort of manual work did she experience? I bet she hung about with the suits in the offices, and watched the YTS girl file bits of paper, while attempting unsuccesful condescending conversation. I bet that she was shown round the factory floor once when she first got there, and thought that it was very novel. However, later she thought that her shit didn’t stink any time she had to enter the warehouse. I bet that at the end of those eight months she was glad to be out and never to go back, and full of pity and a bit of loathing for the poor beggars in their ignorance who could not better themselves because they were too stupid.
Why doesn’t she give up her own personal wealth if she is such a good socialist? Grrrrrrrrr.
Aaronovitch = Cünt
I still don’t know who this dude is, and tell the truth, I can”t be bothered to find out
Good to see you have got yourself together, so to speak, and that god damned awful head ache of yours has finally cleared up.
Perhaps next time you will listen to me when you get those silly ideas of yours again, about the establishment giving a shit about tax payers, or any one else for that matter.
They don’t it really is that simple. They did not then and they do not now. Quite frankly you got off relatively lightly in the circumstances. Ask Guido if you don’t believe me.
He’s another over-opinionated, fat, ego-ridden war-mongering slob. Used too frequently by the BBC to commentate on the ‘arts’ etc. Thinks the world of himself and his journalism, and his critical faculties.
AND, he can’t take criticism.
There was I, already to wield my rapier with and carve Mad Poll so finely to pieces she didn’t even know until she moved. They have closed comments for the night. Obviously anticipating a “lively” debate.
It is shocking though, isn’t it, that the blogosphere is not doing what she wants it do do. Shape up, blogosphere. Dame Toynbee has spoken, and Dame Toynbee knows best; indeed, like Ms. Blears, she knows what is best of us, as well.
@nell says: june 26, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Polly Twaddle has been given more BBC air time recently than any other journalist.
She earns £106000 per annum
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By her own admission, £170k ps, and that may even just be her Guardian salary.
Guardian of what, these days, I wonder?
Point is Elby she tries to say that she speaks for the working classes.
WE are the working classes. Those of us who WORK!
How?, given her background, income and lifestyle can she speak for us!??
Of course she convinces those living on benefits (You know? The one’s who are interested in celebrity’get us out of here’TV, play poker on the web all day and drinks lots of vodka morning, noon and night) that she is their champion. As indeed is gordon.
Without polly and gordon the benefit troughers would be finished!!!!
OK Modded!!!!
Polly Twaddle thinks she speaks for the working classes. Well she doesn’t!!
Of course the benefit claimants regard her as their champion.
Let’s get back to the true working class environment.
Spend what you earn!
Gordon are you listening?
And if you can, put a bit by for a rainy day.
No, Gordoom isn’t listening. He hasn’t listened for 12 long years…
Should be reply to Nell at post 177.
oh dear, has Guido spilt his guiness again?!
you were warned about the chit chat so don’t be so surprised, eh?
Are you Polly Toynbee? Your mis-spelt words are inconsistent but you manage to spell words like “professional” properly.
That was for EDDY TEH NUTTA
He won;t be n\ell. But I completely agrree with you!! x
Polly likes the term “relative poverty” ie you’re now classed as poverty stricken if you don’t have a 42 inch plasma telly, the latest mobile and loads of bling.
When there are no “victims” polly and her bleeding heart liberals simply invent a new class of them.
Tuscany is lovely this time of year Polly especially if you’ve a villa to go to so please fuck off there and stop commenting about things that you have absolutely no conception or knowledge of or ever likely to
Benefit claimants have no fucking clue who Polly Toynbee is. Benefit claimants have no fucking clue what ‘The Guardian’ is.
Polly Toynbee is the voice of ‘People Like Her’ who have ‘socially responsible’ parents who didn’t want their kids to mix with distracting influences at the local state school so sent her to private school instead. Coming from a dirt-poor background myself I did feel a little guilty drinking myself blind and shagging myself lame on a student grant while my old acquaintances from primary school were bolting wheels on Austin Allegros but that is as far as my angst went.
I was at university because I’d fucking well worked hard and paid attention at school (and because, to be fair to myself, which I am more often than not – despite my Catholic upbringing – a bit brighter than average) while the vast majority of my classmates were total fucking wasters. Be like us – don’t do any work. Just fuck about. A mind-set they brought with them to Austin Rover.
This is what middle class Polly and her self-travelling bedwetters like Brown, Blair, Cooper, Balls, Harman and the rest of the fuckers don’t get. They grew up in naice, middle claaas families with supportive parents who value education. Which means they have no fucking concept that the peer pressure to be a fucking idiot at state school is immense.
These kids (unlike practically any immigrant group you care to name) don’t have supportive parents urging them to pay attention at school. Quite the opposite. My classmates had parents who had worked all their life in state industry (Austin Rover) but you could substitute: the NCB, BR, British Steel or any other state industry you care to pick. Their parent’s attitude was [Brummy accent] School neva did me any good. Awl I eva got was a job at the Austin.
They were actively telling their kids that school didn’t matter. They really were. And from the evidence I see around me they still are. Even if they haven’t had a pay packet for 20 years.
I went to school but it didn’t do me any good – I can’t get a job.
You can’t get a job because you did fuck-all work at school you arsehole. You are illiterate and inumerate.
Polly, Brown, Cooper, Harman et al – they have no fucking idea of the self-defeating idiocy at large in their safe seats. And then, to compound the idiocy, their whole philosophy is to tell these idiots that their lot in life is not their own self-defeating outlook. Fuck no. It’s the rich people who are keeping them there.
Utter, utter, utter, fucking arseholes.
Sadly, jgm2, you are dead right. I believe Frank Field has called it “Poverty of Ambition”.
I think the only answer is better education – smaller classes, much better standards of discipline, and MUCH higher standards of GENUINE academic achievement.
Polly’s salary
jgm2;
Cracking post! Should be a full page article in the Daily Record/Mirror/Sun/Star
Socialists dont do fuck all for anyone unless there is a paycheck or promotion at the end of it, see Civil Service/ charity worker/Trade Unionist or Politician.
Even the Unwashed variety of lefty wont get out of bed unless there is a fucking pop concert as a reward, see Live Aid/Live8 etc.
Millions of Africans dying of aids,starvation,war,disease and corrupt regimes.
YEAH, ARE YOU READY TO ROCK!
gobshite
Bono the hypocritical tax dodger?
http://thekomisarscoop.com/2007/05/bono-the-tax-dodger-wants-others-taxes-spent-on-africa/
Bono carer for the poor and worried about flights damaging the environment?
http://www.hecklerspray.com/bono-spends-thousands-on-transporting-hat/20051860.php
totally different subject but if you look at the time this Have Your Say thread was posted, could the BBC be accused of burying bad news?
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?forumID=6641&edition=2&ttl=20090626213522
Polly is a national treasure and should be treated with quiet respect. Also, if she wasn’t writing in the Guardian, it would be somebody worse.
Respect!!!
If she’s a national treasure let’s play it safe and bury her.
Just to be on the safe side make it 12 foot deep and upside down.
Or get Gordon to sell her off?
Good news!
Ronaldo has gone to Real Madrid.
I feel so much better.
mandelson must be gutted !
Shame he hasn’t gone too
Mandelson is bathing in champagne just after he forced gordon to go to bed at 8pm.
Sarah has gone off on the town with top models- pop stars- and high flying fashion designers.
Poor gordon!!!! – sidelined, as an embarassment, as always.
Silhouetted against the Downing street curtains he can be seen practising the only thing that can save him at next weeks question time.
Yes, he is going to moonwalk back and forth as he answers Daves questions, stuttering in time to the movement.
Harriet,Jack and that Sainsbury enriched ponce will have to sit on their calves to make room and not trip him up.
Dennis Skinner will plant a question whilst juggling.
Government sources admit it will all be completely pointless, but hope that their popularity be enhanced if they are seen to be working harder.
Where’s the backing band going to go? Government back benches?
Mind you, a bit of strobe lighting might help his appearance…
I’ll tell you what would help his appearance. A parachute flare fllowed by heavy artillery bombardment would improve him and his fucking evil cabinet of hostile occupation no fucking end.
I bet Polly leaves gravy browning poo stripes in the bed, stinky old hag
Interesting points, Guido. I believe it dates back to her upbringing. Doubtless as a little girl Polly was allowed to meet the great and the good of socialism, some of whom told her tales of how, when the were her age, had met Famsey MacDonald and other luminaries of the days when the Labour Party was founded. And no doubt she was filled with horror stories of how brutish and vile the Tories are.
She still has this little girl’s worldview. In one way, it is quite sweet. But it means that she is little useless when it comes to writing about politics. And being wealthy cannot help. It must (well, it should) make her feel awkward to write about issues relating to the poor when she owns several homes (some in foreign parts) and lives a Champagne lifestyle. It makes reading her articles (no matter how well intentioned they are) rather difficult. Because at the back of the mind of the reader will always be the thought: “This is all very well. But you probably spend on the wine for one dinner party what I spend on my weekly shop. So please stop trying to tell the working class how they should feel, what they should believe and how they should vote.”
Polly, just for the fun of it fuck off
Polly should know by now; politics isn’t the solution to a problem, politics is the problem.
The triumph of hope over experience…… heavy sigh.
We should also recall that when Polly talks about ‘bile’ that (as far as I know) she was the only journalist who exulted in the death of Auberon Waugh.
She is sick as well as stupid.
Polly Toynbee isn’t worthy of the honour of exhuming Auberon Waugh and brushing his (by now) yellow teeth.
The more I read of Toynbee’s intellectual prowess – accepting a place at Oxford with a single ‘D’ from her private school and then getting tossed out (or ‘dropped out’ as it sounds like she’s presenting it) thus depriving some working class kid with 3 ‘A’s from the leg-up in life they could really have used… – the more I despise her.
But fair play. She does let most comments stand – unlike the fucking Telegraph or the BBC – and occasionally she contributes in the comments. Which means she reads ‘em.
As others have said, like Gordon, she surrounds herself with like-minded individuals which – if we’re being honest – we all do. Hence the more right-wing flavour to this blog. However most people, if they’d fucked up the economy entirely while being warned repeatedly by the OECD, the opposition, the press and the governor of the BoE would eventually change tack. Only the truly blinkered, their minds firmly closed, socialists poisoned at birth with lies, in the same way that our Islamic chums are poisoned from birth, would perserve on their socialist mission.
Brown and Toynbee. Fellow travellers on their blinkered crusade of idiocy.
There would have been few things more pleasing to Auberon Waugh than to know that Polly had exulted at his death.
There was another one-Janet Street Porter(either the Indy or the Sindy).A second deranged bint.
Anti-political bile? She’s surely getting plenty of that thrown at her here! That’s what comes of being an over-opinionated, boring, predictable, one horse pony. I could forgive her, a bit, I suppose, if she displayed the faintest signs of original thought and/or personal style and beauty.
Polly is Rabidly Pro-Politics
Thanks for another instalment of Guido States The Fucking Obvious
Tomorrow’s headlines: Pope Suspected of Consuming Wafers and Wine While Talking in Latin and Ursine Forest Defecation Problem Continues.
You’re all racist fascists: Polly is a lovely woman who talks a lot of sense.
I’m going to have an hysterical rant now.
Is that you Yasmin? Let me tell you, polly toynbee has been pissing people off for years with her holier than thou ‘socialist’ sentiments! If she WERE a genuine socialist it wouldn’t be so bad, but as it is she has blindly followed newlabour wherever it’s gone, and it ‘ain’t a socialist party, feathered her own nest, and has an ego bigger than an elephant. (no disrespect to elephants). I gave up reading the Guardian newspaper years ago when it started toeing the line, and falling in with every whim of the newlabour party. Perhaps she should spend more time living with the real people, and see how she likes it, amongst the ghastly results of a society formed in the main by the ghastly party – newlabour. And it ain’t pleasant, and it ain’t fair! Anti -political bile? There’s a basin full for you.
Are we not shooting foot soldiers here while the Generals slide off scot free[ no puns intended] I think we should be concentrating fire on the evil wankers who designed this whole charade in the first place, namely, Kinnock, Blair, Mandleson, Brown, Campbell,Straw and the whole retinue of their Familiars>
At least polly has a pretend job Anne Keen who has a title of junior health minister gets her employees (her son) a quick check up via private health care. I guess some are more equal than others. I mean have you seen the waiting lists for NHS check ups
I must admit I have never read any of Polly’s articles in the Guardian, as I never would waste money buying such garbage, but I have seen her several times on Question Time.
I canno understand why she is paid to be on the panel as she seems to me to be not of this world, with total misunderstanding of the thoughts of the audiance in the studio.
Having her on is a total waste when there are so many wise panalists available to air their views and make genuine contributions to the program.
Her recent instructions on saving the planet and climate change was immediately demised by a fellow panalist as hypocracy considering the amout of flying she does to her ‘weekend’ home in Tuscany and other destinations.
She brings to life the reality of Animal Farm, and to think about it bears a strong likeness to a pig.
As ever with the likes of her is one law for everyone elce and another one for her.
She requires the professionalism of a potholer to remove the ‘fluff’ that infests her Hunt.
oh fuck off! sarah palin is a crackhead c’unt.
the americans have already played the cripple card with the imbecile george bush.
and as soon as President Obama imposes a resolution on the israel palestine conflict his legacy will be guaranteed.
as will his second term.
excellent.
GO OBAMA – PEACE IN ISRAEL AND PALESTINE 2009!
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Can you send me the Number for your dealer, it must be good stuff to believe that bollocks
The point of Polly Toynbee is that she gets people worked up about politics, look at the number of comments every time she writes. You can just ignore her scribblings if you want to. Politicians and journalists like her are in the same game – like police and criminals, they need each other.
Politics is just the art of delusion. Pols delude themselves that they know the answers to everything, delude the voters that they will solve all the problems of the world and spend their term in office trying to delude everybody that they never said what they promised or if they did it meant something different.
Why do we need these people? We don’t have professional jurors because normal people are thought fit to decide who is guilty or innocent. Why not have normal people seconded from real jobs for fixed terms as MPs and sent back afterwards. Stop the endless bullshit and posturing and pathetic childish bickering, make them talk about the real issues, manage the country like a business, fire them when they screw up and make lying to parliament a criminal offence.
Pretentious little ginger prick.
Best today
Katie Couric interview with Tony Blair. He makes Cameron look amateurish.
I have not seen this but let’s assume you are 100% correct.
Therein lies the problem.
You are impressed by the man who may well be seen to to have presided over the biggest disaster to hit this country since god knows.
Interviews are largely a waste of time as a predictor of performance.
What Polly plainly needs is a serious rogering from a great big cock. Of course figuratively she’s been getting that from Labour for the last 12 years now, but then so have the rest of us.
Tosh
come on the Arthur care to wager 3 million unemployed by feb 2010 , gordons busted us
Well the Economy is now well and truly stuffed because Brown and Darling are having a handbag fight with Merv.
Handing more powers to the FSA, they have got to be f*cking joking. This lot need to be dragged out and hung in the tower for what they are doing.
Chancellor’s revenge: Darling threat to curb Bank of England power after King speaks out
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1195622/Chancellors-revenge-Darling-threat-curb-Bank-England-power-King-speaks-out.html
Alistair Darling is threatening to dilute the Bank of England’s powers amid an increasingly bitter row over its head’s ‘unholy alliance’ with the Tories, it emerged yesterday.
The Chancellor will strengthen the role of the rival Financial Services Authority, the City watchdog, after claims the bank did not give him adequate warning of the credit crunch.
It follows accusations by Cabinet ministers that Bank of England governor Mervyn King is ‘getting too close’ to the Tory opposition.
couldnt agree more pretty desparate stuff when labours genius move is to weaken the bank of England further to shut merv up .
Hilary Benn has just admitted that there will be cuts-hope he’s watching for nokias.
Kind of you to make the tripe you post so conspicuous and thus instantly avoidable.
If you put windolene on your tongue you may be able to charge for the service.
Methinks he’s on a leadership strategy.
methinks hilary benn is on a leadership strategy
Sorry Bergen some mistake obviously this was directed at the tosser who posts in capitals. Maybe the numbering is up the shoot again.
Booster seats should be used by every child under the age of 12 who measures less than 135cm (4ft 5in).
However anyone including the Speaker should continue using booster cushions or booster seats (available on expenses) until they are 150cm (4ft 11in) tall.
Brown the mental defective wants to set up a sixty billion pound per year fund to help poor states cope with the effects of man made climate change?
Firstly where is the fucking money coming from? the nation is broke and reduced to borrowing and printing fake money just to get by!
Secondly who gets this cash giveaway? North Korea/Bangladesh/India/China? roll up roll up the fucking mug westerners are giving away free cash again ha ha ha lets bleed the hoons dry eh?
Never mind that there is no such thing as man made global warming, its all a fucking snake oil ponzi scam, never mind that the recipients of this cash will just rake it in and pop it in Swiss bank accounts and buy arms and luxury goods for their commissar class, yeah lets give away money we dont have to countries that hate us and will only waste the cash we do give them even as they spit in our faces and laugh at us for being so fucking retarded!
its a moral crusade yer see comrade! lets give away all our wealth and itll be great everyone will be happy living in poverty, yeah comrades who needs wealth?
The political classes not only waste the national wealth they give it away to despots and dictators round the world, that fat Hunt bono said wouldnt it be fantastic to forgive the national debts of third world cesspits so they could live happily ever after and feed/clothe/educate their people cos its all the fault of the evil west that third world nations live in poverty and misery, yeah what a great idea eh?
But as with all socialist idealistic claptrap it all ended with the third world cesspits going out to borrow even bigger sums to spend on weapons beemers and rolex watches and fancy clothes while the poor still starve to death by the side of the road unoticed by the commissar class driving by in their mercs paid for with stolen aid cash hidden in Swiss banks.
So now even the so called Tories are ring fencing their foreign aid budget even though the nation is broke and will be for years, yeah lets give away money we aint got while our own pensioners live in poverty and our own poor wait in vain for social housing even as its given away to such worthy recipients as roma criminal gangs/west african gangsters and islamist terrorists sympathisers!
Even as the Tories are forced to slash UK public services they will throw it to third world cesspits by the bucket load!
Quite right. Give then fuck all.
The UK’s boats are long since burned on the international credibility front. Giving more money that we haven’t got to countries who do not like the UK lead by despots who will divert it into their Swiss bank accounts anyway seems to me to be the height of idiocy, which is probably why successive government do it. That are run by idiots…
Brown is playing a crafty one here , expecting that this generosity will be returned when we enter the realms of the third world, which, by my calculations will be in September 2009.
This will be when the great British public have all had their holidays, come back refreshed, sat down, taken stock, realised there’s no work and abandoned hope.
As always, class coming to the fore, I am ahead of the curve and abandoned hope last Tuesday.
AGW is just a hoax to fill Swiss bank accounts with taxpayers money, dressed up as aid of course.
Brown says ten billion will come from the government ( thats direct taxation for you and me ) and fifty billion from indirect taxation ( oh, you and me again ).
Can someone just kill the cnut, pretty please.
The Sniper is available!!
So let’s get this straight:
McDoom is looking for spending cuts in the Army which he has sent to a shithole without the means to do the job. Magically he plans to find 60 billion to support climate change in 3rd world countries. I have a solution – let’s get the Army to fit solar panels while they are out there instead of fighting.
I’m really good at this third way stuff aren’t I?
You’ve been drinking mung bean coffee with Bono!!
She only does it for the money.
Well I would say that, wouldn’t I?
The only thing that pt knows anything about is politics, sad, isn’t it?
la vista baby
Please retire from the commentariat Polly. Italy awaits your exile.
and take Yasmin Ali Brown and Baroness Billingham with you.
She is loved by the BBC, and thats all that matters, lets face it she has become a mini celebrity because of this and she’s loving it.
I shouldn’t think Polly really gives a hoot about what people think. Her family were well-off. She went to a good school, mixed with the right people, got a job as a journalist earning good money and she is now probably looking forward to her very comfortable retirement.
Daily Mirror:
Families face HUGE increase in energy costs – seen on Guido’s website Banner moments ago.
Halifax:
Government-funded bank says Cost of running a home has fallen 17%
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090627/tuk-cost-of-running-home-falls-by17-6323e80.html
Who do you believe?
It’s a tough one folks!
Should we therefore believe everything Polly says?
He who pays the piper calls the tune.
Polly’s Paymaster?
does anyone know if Neil Young has finished ‘Rockin’ in the Free World’ yet?
I thought she was dead.
Looks like Polly’s whine didn’t go down too well over at the Graun. The comments were overwhelmingly giving it the thumbs down so they’ve done the usual democratic freedom of speech thing & closed them.
Can’t say I’ve ever read Polly-put-the-kettle-on but she sounds disturbingly like Mary Twaddle who I guess is still writing in the Tossergraph.
Could it possibly be that they are one and the same ?
PS It would be handy if true – one less bullet needed.
Polly got it dead right in the first sentence – shifting a slagheap with a bent teaspoon – just about sums up how Mandy controls Gordo
People should vote.
They should vote for anyone except the liblabcons.
I would like to thank Guido for having comments sections that are so easy to post on. No fear or favour, unlike The Times, The Guardian and even the Daily mail who are so concerned with their image that they make it so difficult to get a post on them. Not to mention the Scottish ‘papers which are the worst of the lot. The Scotsman and the Herald. Superficially these papers all seem to relish the fact that blogging from Iran is acceptable as it may improve peoples lives by bringing down a despotic regime and damn the regime for crippling the internet and telephone communications etc. Here we have another despotic regime by the name of the Labour Party, which we would like to get rid of but seem unable to do. UK newspapers assist them by controlling comments.
I disagree – but in the interests of equality and fairness vote for them all
Nothing is achieved by staying at home; mountains can be moved by rejecting the system and letting it be known to all.
LPUK was formed as a result to ensure that future generations have a party to vote for, one that is not interesting in dividing up the pie a slightly different way than before, but giving the pie back to its true owners – in saying that we cant put candidates up without funding; better yet support in the form of bods would be just as well.
Try freedom, for a change..
FBI study: Serial killers and politicians share traits
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-2684-Law-Enforcement-Examiner~y2009m6d12-Serial-killers-and-politicians-share-traits
I sniffed Polly’s arse once. It stank. Just like her breath. In fact I think it all comes from the same place.