April 27th, 2009

Dolly is Watching Daytime TV

Further to Guido’s story about the BACP Crisis Meeting Over Draper, the psychotherapist’s professional body has confirmed that the

BACP has received a number of queries regarding Derek Draper to which we are responding. Any complaints received will be treated seriously and processed according to our Professional Conduct Procedures.

As soon as they are known, the outcomes of all Professional Conduct Procedures are published in our journal Therapy Today (which automatically goes out to all 30,200 BACP members) and also to the general public via our website. All such proceedings are conducted on the principles of natural justice. All parties to any complaint have a reasonable period during which to make their representations.

Derek Draper and Kate GarrawayGuido understands that Dr Annie Hickox, a qualified clinical psychologist who has worked in the NHS for more than 20 years and holds qualifications up to and including a PhD (unlike Dolly) is one of many who have written to the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy in order to register concern. Dr Hickox says Draper “clearly is not fit to work in his chosen field”.

Draper’s wife Kate Garraway is presenting “The Biggest Loser” on ITV weekdays at 4 p.m., Guido will resist the obvious temptation…


179 Comments

  1. 1
    Anonymous says:

    First hah !

  2. 2
    President of Pakistan says:

    Has he gone yet ?

    • 46
      Sir Barrington Minge says:

      Regretably no!!

      We are considering shipping him to Mexico to repeat his “I saved the world” stunt.

    • 162
      Put him in the curry says:

      Count your DVD collection. Bet there’s a few missing.

  3. 4
    Grimley Fiendish says:

    I hope Dolly is also watching Countdown…. It would seem apt.

  4. 5

    Let’s hope they do the decent thing and throw him out.

  5. 6
    TheLaughingHomeSecretary says:

    You can get an early notice of when they boot him out from his own website, at the top it says “Member of the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy (BACP)” which surely he cannot keep if he, err, isn’t?

    http://www.derekdraper.net/home.htm

    • 41
      Send the speaker to the tower says:

      I’ve just been on his website and noticed a handy little link to his email address.
      I sent him a rather childish:

      You’re fired!
      BACP

      It felt strangely rewarding, and he’s such a half-wit, he’ll probably believe it!

      • 136
        Grand Master of the BACP says:

        We would like you to know there is another organisation which is:

        The Berkley Association for Conmen and Posers. (BACP for short)

        For information we would like it known that we are at Berkley, well….ummm… not quite at Berkley precisely it’s more sort of in Berkley really err uhh!…well on the outskirts to be precise…ahhh …we are on the same bus route does that count?….. Hurumphh ..!!!

  6. 7
    Anonymous says:

    Ha ha !! Very funny !!

  7. 8
  8. 9

    Looks like Draper is going to have to appear on shows like Celebrity Big Brother to earn a crust from now on………………

    • 30
      Mary Hinge says:

      Wouldn’t he have to be a celebrity to do that?

      • 57
        Old Street says:

        of course not. Thats not the point of celebrity tv. It’s all about pointless no marks shamelessly promoting themselves for a few bucks.

        sounds just like Derek

  9. 9
    Icarus says:

    You have to renew your membership annually, from the website:

    “All accredited counsellor/psychotherapists and supervisors are required to renew their accreditation on an annual basis.
    What do I have to do?

    In order to maintain your accreditation you have to renew this each year. You renew your accreditation on the same date as your membership is renewed. We will send you a reminder and the form before your renewal date. You should make sure that you return it to us by the due date otherwise your accreditation may lapse.

    There are four criteria for maintaining your accreditation which are summarised below;

    * You should be an accredited member of BACP, in good standing and abide by our Ethical Framework for Good Practice in Counselling and Psychotherapy
    * If you are in practice, you should have current and ongoing professional indemnity insurance
    * If you are in practice as an accredited counsellor/psychotherapist, you should have a minimum of 1 1/2 hours per month supervision and/or
    * If you are in practice as an accredited supervisor you should have access to supervision/consultancy.
    * You should undertake a minimum of 30 hours of Continuing Professional Development in each year.

    These criteria are explained in more detail on the renewal forms.

    Every month, we select 10% of people for audit. This means you will have to provide a little more information about your current practice and CPD. You will receive a specific form for this.”

    30 hours of Continuing Professional Development sounds a real pain!

  10. 11
    Harvey Hawley Crippen MD says:

    Have Esther Rantzen and Sandi Toksvig Vice Presidents of BACCP greased the guillotine for a clean chop?

    • 174
      Churchill's Cattleprod says:

      Its handy having Sandi Toksvig on board. She only has to be paid half the usual fee.

  11. 12
    Alan Sugaa HaHa says:

    Dolly would probably win the Apprentice in 2010.

  12. 13
    righty right wing (mrs) says:

    Thats absolutely brilliant Guido.

  13. 14
    Roberto says:

    I wonder if Kate will bring home one of those T-shirts for Dolly to wear around the house just to remind him of his abilities?

  14. 15
    shellingout says:

    Oh good. He’ll be reduced to Jeremy Kyle. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bloke….!!

    • 171
      Massey Vardon says:

      Hopefully we can look forward to Draper being told “People like you make me sick! Get off my stage!”

  15. 16
    StrongholdBarricades says:

    I had thought he was considering his position for seven days

    Maybe he uses the same calculator as Darling

  16. 17
    The Beast Of Clerkenwel says:

    I bet the only time Draper was ever IN the BACP was when he nipped in for a brochure only to be laughed out of the building clutching his dubious “qualifications”.
    Not the only time he has been expelled
    HOON

  17. 18

    let us be fair, without Dolly we would not have had so much fun – over a long period of time and Gordon would not be biting his nails down to the quick – Oh, he always did and still is!

    But I understand from Guido that the other one is still working and advising the son o’the manse? How can this be… meanwhile spare a thought for @Susanbrown10 twitter handle she poor lass is seeking donations for malaria nets for Africa, better she taps MPs, lots of loose cash and no receipts required.

    Understand she tried to get a donation from hubby (err the PM) and he’d chucked a Nokia at her, bright lass caught it and sent it off to the recycle people and has stuffed the cheque for £50 down her ample cleavage…good girl.Trouble is a witch doctor in Uganda is now getting loads of calls on his recycled Nokia from one D. Draper

  18. 19
    no longer anonymous says:

    Kicking a man in the bollocks when he’s down is just not done. How fortunate then that Mr Draper is not a “man”.

  19. 21
    Chris SE9 says:

    Laugh. I thought I’d never start. Does Guido have a proper job at all?

  20. 23
    denverthen says:

    You couldn’t make it up.
    Well, you could, but then you’d be Dolly.

  21. 25
    Andy Carpark says:

    That lifebelt should be jammed over Dolly’s arse which should then be kicked until his nose-bleeds, the scruffy ‘apeth.

  22. 26

    His web site claims he works with children – has he got a proper CREB clearance?

    I wouldn’t trust him anywhere near my grandchildren.

    The Penguin

  23. 27
    Tony Blair says:

    I shall be selling an autographed copy of his latest book on E-Bay

    • 71
      The BACP Disciplinary committee says:

      The unsigned ones go for more.

      • 125
        oi says:

        What book?

        Take a look at its price on Amazon since the reviews started to appear.

        He can’t give it away.

        Lifeboat for Drippy

  24. 28
    Dr Feelgood says:

    Spot the similarities between the most recent of Viz’s Roger Mellie strips on First Post to Mr Draper’s career.

    http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/45922,arts,roger-mellie-goes-on-im-a-celebrity-get-me-out-of-here

    Made oi larf, it did.

  25. 29
    Plato says:

    Most peculiar…

    http://www.derekdraper.net has disappeared from the WayBackMachine archive.

    It had several iterations of his site including one that had the
    http://www.wheresbest.co.uk/business/818005/American-Psychotherapy-Associates-Ltd/ at the same registered address.

    Wonder how he managed that?

    Just after he got found out in rather than at – he removed the link to the APA from his site – that’s why I remember it. Have a fucking amazing memory for this stuff although I do say so myself.

    A better interweb Sherlock than me is required.

    • 72
      Chief Inspector Jacques Clouseau says:

      Not now Plato!

      • 167
        Woman on a Raft says:

        BACP is a registered charity no. 289361 and has an income of around 5m, which keeps the 72 employees in tissues. The CEO earns over £100k according to the accounts. (That is not counting the attached businesses, separate from the charity).

        The charity claims: our mission is “To enable access to ethical and effective psychological therapy by setting and monitoring professional standards”.

        If, when presented with a scoundrel who lies about his degree, they can’t spot a charlatan when told repeatedly about the problem, they might find their charitable status is challenged.

  26. 32
    Anonymous says:

    haven’t watched it much, have you? ;)

  27. 34
    righty right wing (mrs) says:

    He nicks kids chips by deception as well, apparently….allegadly…I am sure I read it here….

    • 36
      righty right wing (mrs) says:

      Excuse the spelling, I am very, very drunk.

    • 74
      Adrian Prole says:

      You did. I pasted it from an article in the Telegraph on 20 April, by Gill Hornby.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/5155029/Duke-of-Edinburgh-is-a-prince-among-royal-consorts.html

      …and scroll down. I’ve pasted it again, below:

      Fries, damned lies and Derek Draper

      It is always valuable in times of political crisis to be able to view the character of the people in the spotlight in the round, as it were. So, in the interests of democracy, may I offer up this little vignette into the domestic behaviour of Mr Derek Draper, blogger, “psychotherapist” and thorn in the prime ministerial side?

      More than 10 years ago, a young Draper turned up in my kitchen. He was but a humble researcher and too young then for any sort of reputation to have come before him. But he had one by the time he left. Throughout the children’s tea, he thought nothing of repeatedly stealing French fries from their plates, using various underhand methods (“Oh! Look over there!”) to do so.

      His poor young victims have never forgotten it. And ever since, whenever his face has come up on the news, with whatever fresh scandal he has since been involved, it has always met with the cry: “There’s that creep who nicked our chips!”

    • 126

      I’m training my grandchildren, and chip-thief is likely to have a fork stabbed in their thieving hand and no messing.

      http://therantingkingpenguin.blogspot.com/

  28. 35
    Esther Rantzen, I used to be on TV (with your granny) says:

    Reoertedly, he purloins chips from kids. Eminentle suitable for membership of BACP.

  29. 37
    shellingout says:

    Is Dolly so hard up that he can’t afford a razor?

  30. 40
    newgirl says:

    But has anyone SEEN him recently? Is he just keeping his greasy head down?

  31. 42
    caesars wife says:

    guido your not a Dallas fan by any chance are you ???

    only it does have some startling similarietes

  32. 45
  33. 47
    Magic_2010 says:

    He must be watching telly.

    He’s not here: http://www.labourlist.org/
    or even here: http://derekdrapersblog.blogspot.com/

    I don’t care any more though. Mocking the Labourgraph’s hacks is the new thing.

  34. 49
    George Osborne says:

    Ere, stop messin’ about!!

  35. 50
    Lola says:

    One almost feels sorry for him. But, nah!

  36. 52
    It's all Balls says:

    Dolly could use his newly found free time to mug up on things medical by watching ‘Doctors’ and then resubmit his application.

    Problem solved.

    By the way Guido – any clues whether McBride is still drawing public money and advising our beloved leader surreptitiously like?

  37. 55
    TheLaughingHomeSecretary says:

    Christ almighty Dolly on I’m a nonentity get me in the jungle.
    Surely even those two Geordie tards that present it would find it more sickening than eating bugs and worms.

  38. 56
    Scallywag says:

    He’s not the biggest loser. He’s THE LOSER.

    What a tosspot…

  39. 58
    Michael says:

    Seen at 2.15pm today, on the Holloway Road near Highbury Corner, a shuffling near derelict figure in dirty scuffed jeans, run-down trainers and raggedy-arsed donkey jacket.

    A double-take. Yup, that rheumey, red-faced pallour. It is indeed Damian McBride.

    “Guido sends his regards,” I yell.

    No response. He looked ruined.

  40. 59
    Moley says:

    I see the latest signature on the petition is “The Cabinet”.
    Bet they remove that one.

  41. 63
    Scallywag says:

    I wonder if Lord West can recommend a bookie who will give me odds on Mrs Draper dumping her daft husband soon?

    • 95
      Captain --HMS Troutbridge says:

      If ‘Wibble Wobble Westy’ is involved the bet will be ‘each way’

  42. 64
    Andrew Porter, you can trust me. says:

    Hey Guido, check out the Norwich City – Reading match tonight on telly. If the Canaries lose they are relegated , to the dissappointment of fan Rt Hoon Ed Balls . If you are sufficiently bladdered cast your cold eye on the brooding blinking presence in the upper tier of the Barclay stand and rejoice as Reading stuff them.

    Balls ,Barclays and Labourgraph losers all.

  43. 66
    FOI says:

    Dolly and Kate are also due to appear in an edition of Mr & Mrs. I kid you not.

    • 75
      anonymous says:

      Didn’t they also appear on a celebrity version of “Who wants to be a Millionaire?” or perhaps that was Mr & Mrs Campbell ?

    • 76
      shellingout says:

      Smacks of desperation to me.

    • 98
      Public opinion court says:

      I think they have withdrawn. Considering how it all turned out is probably what Mr draper Snr should have done in the first place.

    • 165
      Bairy Hollocks says:

      Watchdog surely?

  44. 67
    Anonymous says:

    Why resist?
    Enjoy!

  45. 69
    droid says:

    And you’re still a wanker.

  46. 70
    Half eyed Scottish idiot says:

    I see the Pakistani President has cancelled his press conference with McMoron.

    Don’t blame him. With the Taliban about catching Gordon’s Curse could be quite painful!!

  47. 73
    Confused says:

    ?!?!?!?

    • 83
      Master Baiter says:

      Our intrepid searcher for the truth and digger of dirt lifted this from the Guardian, (you know the ‘dead tree press’).
      A person of honour would credit such a source, which is why Guido has not credited the Guardian.

    • 128

      The words honour, credit and guardian cannot exist in the same sentence.

      As to the “dead tree press”, I haven’t bought a paper for the last twelve years.

    • 152
      If its not on the BBC then its true says:

      Sod off sir michael shite

  48. 78
    Master Baiter says:

    Since Guido’s smeargate fantabilicious coup you lot are very restrained and coy in your insults towards Draper.
    What’s happened?
    Has there been a Conservative Party directive.
    Ahh! yes of course now you sneer at smears it’s difficult to indulge in the depths of filth you did formally.

    Wimps!

    • 88
      Moley says:

      Just out of interest; how’s your eyesight?

    • 89
      billy says:

      Why bother the damage has been done,it hit the msm and the rest of us proles and the even daytime tv braindead have heard about it.

    • 92
      man in a white coat says:

      Anybody seen a nutter?

    • 96
      Anonymous says:

      Oh alright, this is just for you……Dolly is a grubby, lying little twat who loves to suck Nulab cock.

    • 100
      Adrian Prole says:

      Now then, young Baiter. If you want somebody’s first hand experience of Mr Draper, have a look at post 75. It says it all really, don’t you think?

    • 173
      Massey Vardon says:

      Actually, it’s just that now we are getting somewhere, we don’t need to vent so much frustration.

  49. 79
    TheLaughingHomeSecretary says:

    I’m thinking of voting Libdem next time.
    Pre ’79 we had straight labour incompetence.
    79-97 it was straight tory corruption.
    97-present we’ve had straight new labour incompetence and corruption.
    How can it get any worse?

  50. 80
    WTF says:

    My eyes nearly popped out of my fucking head :shock:

  51. 91
    Roberto says:

    Isn’t it time for another, off the wrist?

  52. 94
    From 10 to 1 says:

    Resign petition now in Top 10

  53. 104
    Gerry Atric says:

    I wouldn’t sound so smug as this adds more fuel to the fire that even The Guardian is starting to hate you lefties now.

  54. 106
    Anonymous says:

    Why is it that whenever I see that photo it just reminds me of dollys head up Browns arse?

  55. 107
    Mr Christopher says:

    Isn’t Draper really a wretched spear carrier, a bit part actor already written out of the sequel to “Gordon Brown and The Crucible of Terror?”

  56. 109
    Thats News says:

    Draper IS “clearly is not fit to work in his chosen field” Both of them!

    Which chosen field, though? Surely that’s the question?

    Therapist? No.

    Spinning thug? as in http://thatsnews.blogspot.com/2009/04/smeargatedrapergate-this-story-is-still.html

    http://thatsnews.blogspot.com/2009/04/drapergate-and-smeargate-over-no-chance.html

    http://thatsnews.blogspot.com/2009/04/smeargate-or-drapergate-what-papers-say.html

    Yes. Ideally suited.

    Or… is he? All his spin operations have bowled along merrily until the wheels fall off!

    The good Doctor is right!

  57. 110
    Master Baiter says:

    Apart from repeatedly leaving on the site numerous vile comments about Draper’s wife, this site is infamous for large volumes of anti gay, sexist and racist content.
    Since the fantablicious smeargate coup those rancid filthy comments have appeared less and less.
    Just thought you should know.

    Guido’s got a real dilemna now. ha dee ha ha ha

    Wimps!

    • 111
      Gerry Atric says:

      Your new to trolling on the internet aren’t you……

    • 112
      dandy says:

      Fuck off you one eyed black lezza.

    • 116
      Roberto says:

      Isn’t it time for another, off the wrist?

    • 118
      Thats News says:

      How much is MB paid? Does he get it (fnar fnar!) per post? Or per hour?

    • 120
      jgm2 says:

      Just curious but do you have very hairy palms?

    • 138
      billy says:

      Just like your masters keep repeating something and it becomes fact,oh is that called a smear,welcome to the sewer mb.

    • 139
      Hugo Chaves says:

      Master Baiter, Jimmy, No More Tory Toffs and mr wank of wanky town, are you one and the same?

    • 141
      TheLaughingHomeSecretary says:

      Haven’t you worked it out yet? Master Baiter *is* Dolly.

      • 143
        billy says:

        Can’t be Jimmy as he sits on mrs Dales blog and this blog, on Bloggerheads he says he a Liebour supporter in the comments and says the torys think he is part of Drapers mob,I try to look at the left blogs comments as the trolls like to puff up their chests and show how great they are at trolling when the are telling their lefty mates.

      • 145
        Hugo Chaves says:

        one and the same, PLONKER!

    • 144
      NewGirl says:

      i think we’re normally quite nice about Kate….in a pitying, uncomprehending type of way…..

    • 156
      denverthen says:

      I don’t get it.

    • 175
      Eddie L. Duano says:

      MB. I don’t want to come over all “holier than thou” but many who comment on this blog are not racist, sexist or homophobic. Neither do we use foul language. We make our points and see what others think because, outside of the blogosphere, we are constantly being bombarded by politically controlled media.

      Guido has his faults but at least I can tell him he is talking a load of rubbish. If I was an old man at the Labour party conference, shouting “rubbish” would get me dragged away and arrested under the POTA.

      Is that the sort of society you want MB?

  58. 113
    Wight Tory says:

    I could have sworn I heard draper on Radio 5 last night, about 2:30 doing a top 100 books “His choice was “In the thick of it” and a mention of “Animal Farm” (I kid you not) the accent, the tone and the general feel of the phone in had Draper written all over it, was refered to as Adrian, is that his middle name par chance?

    I suffer with tinitis and as such the radio helps stop the ringing in my ears, couldn’t believe it, what a hoon, fcuking waking me up like that…

  59. 115
    Gerry Atric says:

    master baiter is a gayboy brown spaz

    oh whoops…

    • 133

      Despite NuLiebore’s best efforts at dumbing down GCSEs Master Baiter failed to get sufficient passes to qualify for what passes nowadays for universities, and was forced to try and get some “Work Experience” with the Rapid Rebuttal Unit. Sadly for him and his fellow rebutters, the budget will be cut and he’ll have no option other than flipping burgers and scrubbing floors in McDonalds, wearing his Billy No Stars badge.

      http://therantingkingpenguin.blogspot.com/

      • 158
        AtTheEndOfEverySentenceILetMyJawDrop says:

        It would be so sad if he had a nervous breakdown and had to turn to the BACP for help.

  60. 135
    Prodicus says:

    LabourList still calls Dolly ‘our editor’ (first thing in column 3) and promotes his ‘book’ bottom of colum 3.

    There since Beta Launch Day is the small-print notice saying ‘ADVERTISEMENTS WILL BEGIN HERE AT A LATER DATE’. That means proper ads, I guess. (They already have Unite and the TUC.) Oh, yes, world-beating companies are fighting to associate themselves with Draper and his friends in this government — and pay for the privilege.

  61. 142
    Dolly Draper's missus says:

    That Dr. Annie and her husband Wild Bill have stitched my Derek up good and proper. I have told that tosspot Frizzell to get her on the sofa tomorrow for an interview, so I can give her a good going over.

    Derek’s spending his third week in the garden shed and is looking even more shabby than usual. In his absence I’ve decided on names for the baby – David for a boy or Margaret for a girl. I think Droops (as I call him in our more intimate moments) will be pleased when he eventually comes out, the wanker.

    • 147
      Sarah Brown says:

      I don’t know how you cope being married to such a lying, corrupt, deceiptful and sleaze-driven buffoon.

  62. 150
    anon126 says:

    not very long ago Dolly would have been cleared of all charge, this was the default position when dealing with labour. Now the tide is turning and everyone knows they are finished, I’m not so sure. Dolly is making psychotherapists look bad so should be kicked out…but will he I ? I do hope so :)

  63. 151
    Kermit the Flog says:

    Running a search for ‘Draper’ on the BACP site is fun. It lets you get as far as ‘Dra’ and then announces he can’t be found…

  64. 159
    Swine with sniffles says:

    It all started in Scotland

  65. 160
    Anonymous says:

    There is a new petition to sign – “Carry on leading this great country of ours” – presumably they put it up themselves. So far signatures number …… 18 – two of which might be serious.

    It is running until October with a target of 21 signatures as Mrs. Brown and her boys have yet to fill it in (sorry about any smears directed at wives and children).

  66. 161
    Captain Mike Yates says:

    Don’t forget Dolly is at something called the Mind Body Spirit festival in London

    “Do you want to end the cycles that keep pulling you into pain, fear and disappointment? Would you like to make real and lasting change in your life? Award winning therapist Derek teaches you therapy tools that really work. He shares his methods to help you to gain deeper self-awareness shifting your life towards greater happiness.”

    Monday 20th May at 2:30pm. Twelve quid a ticket.

    http://www.mindbodyspirit.co.uk/london/presenters.php

    Is he looking for a career in alternative therapy?

    • 166
      Fascinated by this blog! says:

      From today’s Times:

      ‘Derek Draper is to make a return to the public stage at the Hay Festival next month. The blogger caught in the Labour e-mail scandal will discuss, in his capacity as a psychotherapist, how to make life “happier and better” in a session titled Life Support. It should be a soul-baring session.’

      People: Professor Robert Winston, Anna Maxwell Martin and Derek Draper
      http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/celebrity/article6181555.ece

      • 168

        ‘Derek Draper is to make a return to the public stage at the Hay Festival next month. The blogger caught in the Labour e-mail scandal will discuss, in his capacity as a psychotherapist, how to make life “happier and better” in a session titled Life Support. It should be a soul-baring session.’

        Surely they can’t be serious?

      • 169
        Angry Farmer says:

        I live within walking distance of Hay-on-Wye. Looks like I’ve a trench to dig.

        He is so full of shit.

  67. 163
    Dalek Draper says:

    He has the right qualification to be the next (non)-Dr Who.

  68. 177
    Jimmy says:

    So for future reference, “Guido understands” means “Guido read in the Grauniad”?

    What was that about nicking material…?

  69. 178
    Anon says:

    Remember TB promising a government that would be ‘purer than pure’ before 1997? Even though he was maybe only referring to the first parliament, it was very popular to expect that Labour would be ‘purer than pure’ indefinitely. I never expected so myself, depsite being only a teen. Now such (then unpopular) scepticism has been vindicated, the right should have more fun telling the public, and the left in particular, that they had told them so.

  70. 179
    Jackanory says:

    Today’s Mail: Pregnant GMTV presenter Kate Garraway looked to be feeling the strain today as she was spotted out in London.
    The 41-year-old’s unkempt hair and washed-out complexion was a million miles away from her usual groomed appearance.
    She has been having a difficult time in recent weeks after it was revealed that her husband Derek Draper had planned to run a smear campaign against Conservative party members with Gordon Brown’s right hand man Damian McBride.
    Miss Garraway was said to be horrified by his behaviour and promptly pulled out of a joint television appearance, according to a report in The Guardian.
    The couple, who married in 2005, had been due to appear on the forthcoming series of All Star Mr & Mrs.
    ‘We were in talks about them appearing on the show, but we have been informed that they no longer wish to do so,’

    Any bets on how long before she dumps him?



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