Sickened Alice Mahon Quits Labour
Alice Mahon, a Halifax MP for 18 years and a left-wing Labour Party member for more than half-a-century, has resigned her membership of the party saying she can no longer stomach how it operates.
In her letter to the Halifax Constituency Labour Party she criticises the Prime Minister: “This Labour Government should hang its head in shame for inflicting this on the British public just as we face the most severe recession any of us have experienced in a lifetime.”
The Smeargate revelations left her “sickened”. According to the Yorkshire Post:
“My stepdaughter Rachel said to me: ‘How could they do that to people like David Cameron and his wife Samantha when they had recently lost their son Ivan? What kind of people think it would be a good idea to smear them?’
“I was sickened by that – that is not the Labour Party that I joined all those years ago… Quite simply I have had it with New Labour.”
Decent Labour versus New Labour…
So there WAS someone lurking in the Labour Party with a conscience after all!
How come it took more than a decade of sleaze and manipulation for her conscience to appear though?
And how many more Labour Party MP’s will have a similar epiphany as the election draws closer I wonder?
Damn all. Fine as this lady’s reaction is, it is, as you say, far too late. I bet she wasn’t going to stand at the next GE anyway. If she had said that she was joining the LibDums or the Tories, or that she was resigning as MP, thereby forcing a bye-election, it would have meant something.
Worthy as her action is, it’s too little, too late.
She is merely resigning from the party, having already stood down as an MP at the last election. Had she still been in the commons, this resignation might have meant a bit more. As it is I can’t see why it merits such prominent coverage, as it changes nothing.
As others have commented Alice Mahon stepped down at the last election.
Perhaps she will also be concerned at Charlie Whelan’s attitude to Smeargate. Quoted in today’s Telliegraph Whelan said: “… hacking into people’s computers to gain private information is still illegal in this country.”
Except of course for ZaNu Labour who, from a few days ago, now require that people’s emails and other internet access is recorded so the government can track where private citizens go online.
Do you mean that there wil not be a bye election because she has resigned?
Poly Tewaddle on BBC news slaging Mahon off.
Getting on for 3am now, I\ve watched various news bulletins: Sky leading with sleaze and Mahon stories at some length. ZanuBBC gave both stories combined a less than 1 minute mention on the last hourly bulletin, 20 mins into it.
Many in the Labour party joined for good reasons, missguided in some cases but wishing to make the country a better fairer place.
Most of these MPs are unaware of the NWO control organisations and manipulation of the party and therefore do not understand why Labour Ideology points one way and the elite leaders(all parties) point another.
However they have to tow the line as they have to sufferer bullying in the workplace and threats to their livelyhoods by the Labour NWO controlers.
Even suffer being leapfrogged by unelected EU toff stooges such as Mandy and other assorted Labour royal families like the Kinnocks dunwoody’s, Prescots, Benns, Booths etc, who like to pass on their right to rule – keep it in the family, with the aid of postal votes off course, millionair dynasties no less!
all again flying in the face of Labour Ideology and a fairer society not driven by priviledge and inheritance
Labour no longer has an ideology, we no longer have a democracy, and Dave is a carbon copy of Brown, another NWO stooge working for international Bankers, he knows if he does not play their tune then they will use their media to destroy him, so like the coward he is he will be their puppet on a string.
Unfortunately for them however is all will become clear to the electorate once Dave gets in and the EUSSR totalitarian, socialist machine with Daves help rolls on and over our democracy just as it did with Brown.
So Dave, will you play the NWO game and be loathed just like Brown and Blair or will you dump the Europhiles and lead the party to small goverment and self rule at the risk of ending up like Kelly and Smith and with the NWO media sent to destroy you, You You will have the backing of the people you have the country in the palm of your hands, you could make Britain great again you could be loved and respected by all – what would your son have wanted you to do? or you could be another Gordon Brown?
The days of sitting on the fence trying to paper over the cracks with more spin and more authoritarianism are over, the people can now see right through it.
Now that would take bravery and courage, unfortunately two things you apparently lack!
It can’t be very nice to have your daughter pointing out that you work for a bunch of hoons. I can feel her cringing in embarrasment.
Plus of course she’s probably in a marginal and this might just save here seat at the coming general election, can’t hurt now can it?
Er?
She ISN’T the MP for Halifax any longer, which you would have known if you had read a bit further than you obviously did.
Never mind. Half the facts must be as good as all of them eh? LOL
Guido’s post didn’t mention she’d given up the gravy train, apart from her no doubt lavish pension.
Doesn’t make much difference does it, see 139 below which I wholeheartedly agree with.
So fuck off.
Bye then
So there WAS someone lurking in the Labour Party with a conscience after all!
No, there wasn’t. She stood by and watched over 12 years of illegal wars that have killed hundreds of Britons and thousands of others, growing state terrorism, the metamorphosis of the police into an armed wing of the Labour Party and more smear jobs than I can count (including at least one that resulted in the death of a loyal public servant).
No, she is not decent. There is no such thing as decency in the Labour Party. All that’s left is pure careerism. Labour is going to be destroyed electorally at the next election and will implode afterwards into a civil war the like of which no British political party has ever seen. All that Mahon is doing is positioning herself – triangulating, to use the term favoured in No.10 and inside the Beltway – as a successor. When Broon falls and his NuLab clique are struggling against Corbin and Old Labour for control of the party, Mahon wants to be able to stamp in and claim power on the basis of her moral credibility. At the very least, she wants to be a kingmaker able to annoint a leftist leadership candidate with her supposed moral strength.
You’re not seeing decency at work in the Labour Party because the two concepts are inimicable. What are you seeing is cold, hard and brutal politicking, the jockeying for power and position that inevitably arises when The Comrades smell weakness – because weakness brings opportunities for those canny enough to exploit them. That is the only lesson the Labour Party has learnt in a century of shitting all over this country.
I don’t know why this was the straw that broke Alice Mahon’s political back, when there were so many other things that could have qualified since 1997. Or actually earlier than that.
I bowed out of membership of the Labour Party when they stuck New on the front of the name and can vividly remember having a standup row on the doorstep with Labour canvassers in 1997 who reassured me that all would be well when TB returned to the socialist fold after winning the election. I laughed then. And that laughter gets more bitter by the year.
But there are some for whom hope dies harder than for others. And who persist in believing that fighting from within for change is more effective than standing on the outside. By all means sneer at her if you must, but do so in the context of knowing that she declined private health care for Age-related Macular Degeneration, preferring instead to campaign for better diagnosis and treatment for all people, rather than grabbing what was easiest and nicest for herself. That is, incidentally, why she stood down as an MP, being effectively legally blind now.
She is a decent person to my knowledge. But why she stuck it as long as she did, I can’t say. I didn’t. And man, was I proved right.
And yes, leftwingers read this blog too.
@PT Barnham’s shit shoveller
Keep crying, pinko. Your tears are delicious.
They weren’t illegal wars. There is no law, anywhere, that says we should not have gone to war. It is the responsibility of the PM and the PM alone to go to war.
Its this kind of silly accusation that prevents serious discussion of this issue.
@Anon 243
It is the responsibility of the PM and the PM alone to go to war.
Since when, you ignorant fuck? The decision to go to war lies with parliament and parliament alone, you crypto-fascist Huhne. Since parliament was misled into war through fabricated evidence and dishonesty and manipulation at the highest levels of government, the war was ipso facto illegal.
Go take a fucking basic class in British constitutional law, you ill-informed Labour bastard.
@Anon 266
My word, you don’t sugar coat the pill do you? But I like the cut of yer jib! I agree, Parliament was responsible for approving a decision to go to war and all the MPs and Lords who failed in their duty are culpable. Most culpable, however, are Blair and his cult followers who knew that the information that was given to the Parliament were, at best, inconclusive and, at worst, entirely fabricated.
It seems to me that Brown is in the brownstuff, big time, and that a Vote of No Confidence would see him in the unemployment queues. Any party that commited to recalling Blair and his ministers to stand trial for their self serving deceptions (costing more than 1 million lives) would get my vote.
I am no lawyer but it is my own opinion that the damage that has been done to our country might well constitute treason.
Further, that the supine ‘cabinet’ who allowed the case for war to be pushed through without discussion are accesories to a crime and they should face trial for it.
Recent scandals re. this rabble of a ‘government’ indicate that they are, in the main, self promoting, liars, cheats and thieves. We should not allow them to prosper.
@ Anon 266, I assumed anon 243 was being sarcastic. He must be being sarcastic, right? SURELY he’s being sarcastic?????
time for some of them to cross the floor I suspect
They allowed their party to be highjacked by these corrupting creeps
It was obvious to me – ex NUJ and ex Labour voter – in the early 1990s what was going on
Why didn;t they see it?
If they cross the floor it will be to the Liberals, who want to sell us even further down the river to Brussells. Oh for a parliament os Independents (but not of cracked Bells)
@277 you are right. Now that Obama has released the Bush torture memorandums I can not see how Blair could not have known about them either. Blair was effectively a right hand man to Bush and his lap dog in Europe. He knew and probably authorised British Security Service officials to do the same. The US may be to weak willed to prosecute for War Crimes, the UK should not be.
President Obama has provided evidence to go for the criminal prosecution of Tony Blair.
I recently have become a reader of this blog, after hearing about its uniqueness. I live in Spain since leaving the UK in 2003. I remember the love-affair with Tony and his New Labour! The mask is being lifted off the corruption that lives within our parliamentary system, finally! Ours is not a perfect democratic system, and it is not helped by the cronism, personal gain and deceits of our elected representatives. Or by the toady followers which comprise the mayority of the Journalists’ Guild, the hardest thing is to tell truth to Power. But, it is the most honest thing to do. We have forgotten that politicians are there to serve the People and Nation, not the other way around. Unfortunately, we are all to blame. Thankfully, Guido has appeared and whilst he might sometimes go overboard, he has the guts to shake us and give us an alternative. If you don’t like what he writes, all it takes is a “click” and you change the page!
I too am am a recent reader of this blog and an expat, but of much longer standing. I left in 1969 but still keep in touch. I cannot believe how much the moral standing of the country has deteriorated. Thank goodness for the likes of Guido.
We had a really nasty scandal in Canada three years ago. The government funnelled several hundred million dollars to its “friends” in the PR business but fortunately got found out. The only resort for the average bloke was to kick them out of office, which we did. As far as I am concerned, they are still in the sin bin and will be for at least one more election.
This will of course not solve the problem permanently. It is obvious, in Canada and UK, that the party in power attracts the self-righteous, the self-serving, the sleazy and the outright crooks. These usually come to the surface after a party has been in power for some time (Neil Hamilton, anyone), but this Labour government obviously got a head – sleaze has been oozing right from the beginning of their rule.
As long as we have the old, rotten structure of government, PR hacks, MSM and traditional “journalists”, this roundabout will continue. It’s a given that the next Conservative government will eventually be corrupted and thrown out of office, and it will take a while to get rid of the smell, only for the Labour heroes to fall afoul of the same.
It’s also a given that this Labour government is uniquely adept at falling on its own shit-covered sword.
But all is not lost! The government/media structure is old and rotting and is now being effectively undermined by the Internet and the likes of Guido. Who’d have thunk twelve years ago that this new-fangled Internet device would turn out to be so powerful.
It is obvious to me, and presumably to most readers of this blog, why the newspaper industry is going the way of buggy whip manufacturers. In two words – NO INDEPENDENCE. I read all the time the considered opinions of people in the media that the blogosphere is overrated and is of only minor importance. Like the captain of the Titanic commenting on the ice in the ocean.
Next – the BBC.
The poor dear. Her Labour Party died two decades ago. I can’t believe she hadn’t figured that out before now.
It took her half a century to see the obvious, better late than never. Labour no longer has a soul; Blair seduced it, then Brown slaughtered it. This is just the latest episode of lefty politics, which always has a bunch of thugs at its heart, behind a screen of useful idiots.
How does the old song go?
“The Working Class can kiss my Arse,
I’ve got the Foreman’s job at last.”
The fiercest exemplification of Darwinism at work, is always to be found in the Comrades’ Party.
It’s not really a matter of conscience: the Labour Party is the only purchase socialists have upon the State.
When the leadership keeps hinting that they have a more radical agenda than they’re letting on, you can’t help but stay.
The final, sickening degeneration into sleaze retrospectively writes off the whole New Labour strategy- and that’s why she left after a half century of service.
Many of us don’t have a place to go now.
I have decided to set up a car boot sale instead.
All this hand wringing is quite filling me up, has anyone checked to see how muc she managed to milk out of the system in second homes, bath plugs, home movies or dvd’s etc etc
I heartily recommend car-boot sales: as a buyer, I’ve sometimes profited (sorry! The ‘P’ word!) buying from people with much more money than sense, and have bought things from genuine Charities ( – “Yes, our son is in…”), saved a very few things from being destroyed that had some minor historical value.
I’ve also bought quite a lot of rubbish (“Needs new batteries, that’s all.”… ), and still fall for the lure of things that only need a little work…
I was told that, for a ‘boot sale’, you price the buyer not the article.
Conscience, or capitulation, what is the real story here? With the Friday meeting of the Lloyds Bank higher echelons with the Yorkshire great and good to lay down the law on the employment prospect for thousands in your constintuancy and the future prospects for you constituency, watch this space. Would you want to be the MP for Halifax.
People ask why it took so long for Alice to show her conscience. Obviously only Alice knows that, but I suspect like others of us in The Labour Party, she was hoping that New Labour could be ousted, and The Party reclaimed. The recent Email scandal (although it was a relatively minor incident, compared to the Wars we have been dragged into, and the way the Working Class have been betrayed), was I suspect, the last straw.
Some writing here seem to think the loss of a General Election will get rid of New Labour. Clearly, when all the self seeking New Labour MP’s lose their publicly funded meal ticket, they will go elsewhere (probably on the Board of some Bank that they have previously rescued), and hopefully principle and integrity will return. My belief is that New Labour will see the error of their ways before the next election – indeed I think this is already happening (an increase in taxation for the rich -as announced in yesterday’s budget – being an example).
Good on you! Any more…?
Tomlinson Killer takes sick leave
Panic attack????? ffs and he signs off sick. Well I suppose not signed of dead then
Old Labour Prescott?
Don’t held yer breath.
… I and many of my friends know how you feel. But you must not leave we can only regain the Party from within. Decent men and women must stand together and rid the Party of these shameful people. If we don’t the country will do it for us. Another 13 years of Tory misrule I am afraid. Next time can we ALL elect the Leader? It IS our Party.
No chance!Your party is dead.
‘If we don’t the country will do it for us.’ too bloody right !!
Labour need at least 13 years of “Tory misrule” so they can bankrupt the country again. Just as they did in 1950, 1975, and 2009.
Can’t be Gary Elsby or Harman_Pride – is it McBride praps?
Then perhaps you should have got off your arse and done something about it instead of coming here whining.
“Another 13 years of Tory misrule” – you are true comic genius – how is tory misrule worse than the excreble authoritarian, dictatorial, war mongering, economically incompetant, venal, lying, power crazy labour misrule ?
Party loyalty above anything else – glad to see you have a lust for power rather than morals.
Besides the climate isnt tory its anti political class you small brained turd
@hovis…I hope you weren’t referring to me as a small brained turd..I was directing my ire at Old Labour..post no.3.
Labour have lost it all right, it in fact they lost it with the first bit of sleaze over the Ecclestone (cash for fags) affair when they came to power. Then there are the many other sleazy issues, the Hindugia brothers, Vaz and many others. But the most serious was the lies Tony Blair and Labour told us to take us to war with Iraq. Not since Victorian times did a government deceive the country to go to war leading to thousands of innocent lives of Iraqis and those of our soldiers.
Then after all the back biting by Brown and his dogs, Brown took over and even more sleaze surfaced and we now have morally corrupt government that has now presided over the worst financial mess any Chancellor/ PM has caused. Not only that, our freedoms won over many years by the blood of those who fought for them is being slowly eroded by this officious, corrupt. Time for Labour to go, its no use blaming the Tories for this mess or the fact they had to sort out the mess left by the last crap Labour government of the 1970’s.
It took years of pain for the Tories to put the econmy back on course after the Callaghan Govt wrecked it (helped by Heath). Some of us oldies have long memories.
These hoons have destroyed many friendships. I can’t be the only one with old friends who voted for them – I could easily enough forgive them the first time, “they know not what they do” – but the 2nd time it was hard, and the third time was unforgiveable
Too late – you should have forced a vote on Stalin Brown
Sunday Express front page just show:
“Labour Death Throes”
Hoo!
This is old left Labour.
Vomiting up all NuLabour’s lies.
And still Labour peddles the same old rubbish – next time it’ll be perfect.
This is how Blair and Co. sold NuLabour – nothing to do with the gormless squanderers from the 70s.
This is how NuLabour sold Brown to old Labour- a return to traditional Labour values – nothing to do with that Tony Blair and his spin machine.
The party is a rotten decaying zombie of a political organisation eat out from within by its own ‘animal farm’ MPs.
It has almost done all it can to Britain. Lies, hypocrisy, mismanagement, betrayal and downright theft.
Fuck off!
Fuck off the lot of you – non of you escape blame for this. You all knew exactly what you were selling to the voters and you kept on lying even in the face of the damage that the party was inflicting all the while praying that eventually the party would somehow ‘return to its roots’ and magically it would be for the best.
It hasn’t.
It won’t.
So just dig a hole and jump in.
“Another 13 years of Tory misrule”? So which five year bit did you agree with and believe to not be “misrule”? Alternatively tell us which of the Tory “rules” or laws established between 1979 and 1997 you will revoke if you get Labour back? Going back to the Scargill days is not the answer, I suggest your energies would be best used in determining what you stand for now and then telling us, clearly and honestly (ideally).
It IS our Party.
You’re too late Old Labour. I’ve voted Tory all my life because I believe in self determination but, although I’ll argue with you, fully apprecaite what Old Labour were trying to do and why.
But you’re much, much, too late. The Government ‘machine’ is imploding because it is corrupted and incompetenet. The days of fooling enough of the people enough of the time is coming to an end. And the Party will fall with it.
You are right about ZaNu Liebore. But voting Tory all your life? What sort of life is that?
Take two examples:
In the 2001 election the Tories in the last two weeks of the campaign announced that they would not have the euro in the lifetime of the next parliament;
Now in 2009 boy George announces that the Tories will, at last, cut government spending after promising for years that they would slavishly copy McBust’s profligacy.
Both ‘johnny come lately’ policy U turns. Camoron and co were told over and over how bad their original policies were and how grassroots Tories were opposed, but no, the Tory leadership have followed Liebore like lemmings over the cliff.
A reply to Old Labour -
How you can divert and refer to ‘Tory misrule’ after the absolute failure that was the last 12 years, God only knows. This is exactly the sort of spin we are talking about – it is constant and like a cancer inbreded in you people. You just don’t get it do you? You are constantly trying to win favour simply by smearing the opposition. It is pathetic and childish and perhaps reflective of your flawed and muddled philosophies and ideals.
Well done Alice, a pity more of your colleagues don’t follow your lead.
Sorry – it’s too early; I should have written ‘inbred’ and not ‘inbreded’ – that’ll teach me to check!
It was 18 glorious years. Supports a sleazy and corrupt party and innumerate – the perfect indictment of Labour.
13 years of Tory misrule? Come off it, that’s an old one. Besides which it pales into insignificance against the 12 12 years of NuLab misrule we are presently suffering under.
The Labour government that expired in 1979 left us with a collapsed economy. It took the thick end of a generation before we found ourselves lumbered with this one. Now they will be leaving us in a year or so facing in an even worse situation than the last time. How you can see fit to refer to ‘Tory misrule’ therefore not only flies in the face of logic but is a sure sign that Labour will count itself lucky if it only takes another generation before they see themselves in government again.
bit like watching tortoises wake up from hibernation, innit. lol.
You have got to be kidding. Someones paying you to gee us up right?
‘Your’ party is full of liars and thieves. You have deceived the people of this country for 12 years and we are wise to you.
You say you’ll “rid the party of these shameless people” – well, that’s what ZaNuLiebor have always done – “we’ve fucked it up again, quick get rid of that lot, and we’ll try something else before the proles get wind of what’s happening”.
Thing is ‘the proles’ aren’t as stupid as you think, and you’ve disgusted far far too many of them.
Your party, call it ZaNuLiebor, New Labour, Labour, Socialists – whatever, is about to be annihilated.
And you’ll only have your pathetic ideology to thank for that.
Lets not get to excited! Call me Dave and Osbourne, (who else is there? ) are NOT Thatcher, Keith Joseph, Norman Tebbit or Peter Lilley, there is no Alan Waters to help out. The Tories are going to have to raise their game to get elected and get the country out of this mess.
They need David Davis back and Ken Clarke OUT urgently!
Exactement, mon frere: zees Clerk, ‘ee is a, ‘ow you say, “tool-pigeon”, non?. Like M. Turdward Eef, ‘ee believe (believe, not think), Europe solve all our problems – even the problems of the Cottages, Mon Dieu!
Le M. Davis, ‘ee is not a clone-politician, ‘ee say what ‘ee think and believe.
Of course, they will do for ‘im.
CMD and Osbo – unless he’s hiding his light under a copy of The Constitution of Liberty we’re in deep shit
The Labour ship has sunk so low even Bob Ballard couldn’t find it.
what about bob maxwell?
Fine sentiments, but far too late. Your last sentence can now only read: “It WAS our party”.
What do you mean ” decent men and women” (like the order, mate!)? Surely Labour/New Labour doesn’t lay down old-fashioned lines like ‘decent’, ‘indecent’, ‘legitimate’, ‘illegitimate’: tad pre-1917, donchathink, Comrade? I mean, Nikolaus II: frightfully decent, and all that, what?
Does not surprise me that the “Old” Labourites do not like what New Labour is up to.
They’re now rigging the ballot boxto get their favoured one in. We’ll have to call in UN Observers, protected by the army, when the General Election comes round.
In all seriousness, it would not be a bad strategy to call for independent electoral monitoring – never thought it would come to this.
After the last Scottish by-election and the subsequent loss of documentation and today’s report of an irregularity in the Erith and Thamesmead constituency Nulab selection hustings in all seriousness United Nations supervision should be considered for the next general election.
What leads you to think thare will actually be an election?
Who said there will be a general election. I’m sure that buried somewhere within all the laws passed since this shower have been in power there is a clause that allows elections to be postponed in the “national” interest i.e the interest of NuLab and G Brown.
Maybe the seriousness of the current world economic crisis is just such an opportunity. I can see it now.
“In these times of unprecedented economic crisis, it would be wrong of the government to allow a general election which could see a change of government, and the undoing of the all the excellent policies and work, put into place by the Prime Minister, Gordon Brown. Accordingly, all elections will be suspended until either the crisis is over, or until the government has decided that the British people can be trusted to reach the right decision…whichever occurs last.”
…if only Mr Brown had “Done Nothing” we would not be in this state!
Steph Booth got parachuted into the neighbouring constituency last week – typical.
Yes, using ‘postal votes’. Will the party stand for this? Is it totally corrupted?
One thing is for sure, if they do try to use some ‘national crisis’ as a reason to postpone an election, there WILL be rioting on the streets, and on a large scale
Old Labour 10:05!
And you will still vote for them? get a new brain, you can get them from the sheep slaughter house, it will certainly improve your intelect.
Meanwhile over at the BBC zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Morning everyone
Now the thing that is bugging me is Dolly Draper actually the knife man who has forked Herr Brown? Has he done a 20 pieces of silver jobby. I think Guido may have gone a step further than his ancestor here.
Cheers
Honker
Bravo Alice and Rachel. Who’s next???
By the way Guido, for the last couple of weeks I’m getting the odd lines omitted from your bulletins. Are there dark forces at work?
Yes same here in New Delhi. I have a fast internet connection but it sometimes takes several minutes for Guido’s text to become visible.
Just go over the missing lines with your curser as though you were going to copy and paste and they will appear and remain there.
Switch over to using Mozilla Firefox a decent browser and they are all visible!
Oh by the way, feck of Brown!!
PS>What’s happening in ‘safe’ Liebour South London seat Erith
I’ve tried but can’t seem to copy and paste live links
There are always extremely dark forces at work.
Exactly the same forces that inspired and financed the Third Reich, are now doing same for the coming Forth.
We are simply so fucking fucked, it truly defies description.
See you all later suckers, and thanks for all of the fish.
DON’T PANIC
T’was a pleasure, Sir.
just move curser to the missing area and double click, all should be revealed.
Thanks Bucket. Works a treat.
Unfortunately it is the Scottish Labour party and has been for a long time.
The problem with this facile argument is that if the SNP win all the Scottish Westminster seats at the next GE, England could still vote in a Labour Government.
For many Scots Tory = Labour = Lib Dems, there is no difference between them when it comes to running Scotland down, running the UK for the benefit of the ‘City of London’ and lining their own pockets in the Augean Stables that is Westminster.
Pay for London’s Olympics? OK, we’ll cut Scotland’s pocket money from Westminster by a further £500 million a year on top of the £500 million a year we already lopped off in 2007 for them voting in the SNP at Holyrood.
You think Scots like Nu Labour? Look at the Scottish opinion polls!
80% of Scots want full fiscal autonomy for Holyrood, its even Stevens in the vote for or against independence with 22% undecided, Wee Eck has a higher leadership rating than any Westminster leader…….
Then there is the issue of the disappeared voter roll from the Glenrothes by-election when it was sought under the freedom of information act to look at the huge number (2000+) of Labour Postal Votes that had suddenly appeared, given these votes reflected the winning margin. That apart, the SNP crushing defeat at Glenrothes by Labour actually saw the SNP vote share increase by over 20% and their vote share decrease.
Don’t blame the Scot’s for Nu Labour – the English voted the bunch of numpties in in 1997.
The Tories won England in 2005; unfortunately the Scots and Welsh inflicted ZNL back on us that time. No offence meant anyway but can you guys not just come down here and take him back up there somewhere, since I think we’re all on the same side now? Once you have him it’s safe to say you can do what you like with him, if you know what I mean.
So the Scottish MPs who sit in Westminster and who are unaccountable to the people whose governance occupies 75% of their time under the ZaNuLabour devolution settlement were not responsible for tuition fees and didn’t help save ZNL from an embarrassingly small margin on the Foundation Hospitals vote?
Fuck off and fuck you.
The Tories need to kick the Scottish MPs out when they take over.
Please, please 144 I do hope that is exactly what ‘Call me Dave’ Cameron (an excellent English name to be sure) does…. but he won’t; he’ll claim a mandate to govern the UK even though the Tory vote share is under 18% in Scotland.
So yet again Scotland will have a UK national government it does not want, does not support and which runs Scotland as the last part of the British Empire and an experimental colony – poll tax anyone?
The reality is the myth of the political Union of the Parliaments, the concept of ‘Great Briton’, which Brownedoffovitch keeps playing to the English voters has failed all of us now and, after 300 years, its time for this corrupt and corrupted Union of equals to be ended – especially now it is England that is getting the shitty end of the stick, it apears.
Westminster for the English I say and leave us too poor, too stupid Scots to go it alone with our energy surplus (both fossil and renewable) that England is reliant on and a stable Scottish economy which is not in recession and has no housing market crisis! (CBI figures show that the Scottish financial market grew in the last quarter even given Brown’s HBOS house of cards disaster).
Cameron is no better than Brown – his Unionist Party will do anything to prevent Scotland going it alone – so you will have to vote BNP or UKIP to get your wish!
Mmm … Call me cynical, but I wonder what her expense claims look like.
That’s the expense forms in the photograph of her……….sign here Gordon and I’ll promise to vote for you you sick Mother F…….
Oh just wait for the briefing against her to begin.
already has
I think I may have been a better MP at age 22 than I would make now
So there are some left in the Labour party with morals… I wonder if this will be the start of an open revolt against Brown??
They are indeed revolting.
Hardly morals, more like they have seen the writing on the wall and want to disassociate themselves before they are sized up for a local lamppost.
Where were people like this then on the 10p tax cock-up and Iraq. They are not to be trusted, ever.
Bet her pension is fat.
Nice to see in one way, but it does mean that all the other crap these people have been foisting on us has so far been “ok” for her, not resignation material.
Seconded
Smear her!
I want dirt dragged up on this enemy of the state/party forthwith!!
Order the Telegraph to dig some dirt, I want her tax returns sifted with a fine fucking tooth comb, dya hear???
Better still, dispatch a squad of our chums from the Met’s TSG to ‘interview’ her, send in an anti terrorism squad as back-up.
Political principles and thought crimes are a danger to us all, she must be smashed at all costs!!!
I hear that she talked to Shami Chakrabarti once.
Fine woman and even if she was going to throw the towel in anyway – she still came forward.
Talking of more unbelieveable denials – Mark Easton has a very pointed post on his blog about how SpAds appear to be the only people who know anything about anything.
http://plato-says.blogspot.com/2009/04/i-dont-know-anything-honest.html
The big story this morning, which even the BBC is leading on, is the ballot stuffing scandal at Erith & Thamesmead. ITs not clear whether the stuffers were Blairites trying to get their nepotistic candidate, 22-year-old the Hon. Georgia Gould, daughter of ‘Lord’ Philip Gould in (there has already been jiggery-pokery with the postal votes on her behalf); or Brownites trying to push in their favoured one, Rachel Maskell from Liebour paymasters, the Unite union. What is clear is that this is one more example of stinking Liebour corruption that would disgrace a banana republic. It follows similar scandals at Calder Valley in Yorks. and above all the Glenrothes by-election which was simply stolen from under the noses of the SNP. Whay aren’t they, and the limp & useless Cameroons, screaming blue murder over this. Parliamentary democracy is truly in danger. Wake up mand smell the sodding coffee.
Labour nepotism strikes again … hot on the heels of the selection of Emily Benn, Tony Benn’s granddaughter at the age of 17, for goodness sake.
Try being selected as a Parliamentary candidate at the age of 17 or 22 if you are not a relative of a Labour grandee. You’d be laughed out of the selection meeting so fast your feet wouldn’t even touch the ground.
These people make me absolutely sick.
Hope that’s not months.
I thought this was ‘no time for a novice’?
The problem is that the membership of the party is at an all-time low (understandably) so only a very few fanatics get to choose parliamentary candidates. In this instance you have a stand-off between the Blairite and Brownite factions (Old Labour doesn’t get much of a look-in)
Then because the elctorate is so spineless and just goes out and votes for its tribal party, and so you get these fanatics and children pretending to run the country.
God help us all. If only this could signal the end of party politics. In our dreams…
Has the Glenrothes register been found yet? Thought not. Funny that.
Jacqi Smith’s trying to auction the register on e-Bay along with used bathroom plugs.
ConservativeHome have it linked so its on their radar. I think the official Tory party site is more like any big corporate’s and awaits a strategy meeting and the arrival of a suitable team of techys, PR and legal boys and girls on Monday morning. The important thing is that it is on here.
Their fucking desparate to jump into the trough whilst there’s free pig swill available.
can we now expect smears on Alice Mahon?….. was she a tory mole???
She’s has early Alzheimer’s – I thought everyone knew that.
Remember Gordon, “courage” is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm.
May the farce be with you.
that’s not courage – that’s stupidity
He’s got form the fat fuck.
I’m sure that there are a lot of decent honest people in Labour. They are just masked by the crooks.
Rather than leave Labour, these people should topple Brown and his henchmen and reclaim the party.
Agreed – you can’t change it from the outside unless you become the SDP II and look where that got them.
Let them rot in the hulk that’s left. They will be isolated and look ridiculous. True Labour supporters can start up a new party. They can call it New Labour!
Oh, sorry, they already have!
Complete hypocrite.
Why not resign and cause a bye election?
More time to claim expenses.
Perhaps the fact that she stood down in 2005?
Alice Mahon…a good for nothing…nosey…busybody..who lives up the road from me
(yep im from halifax )
You poor dear.
Never mind, someone’s got to live there.
I hear Nova Scotia is actually very nice.
New Labour vanished after Blair got backstabbed by a lot of his supposed colleagues. And New Labour wasn’t so great by then.
Now it’s just Shit Labour.
Where will she go? All parties are complete bastards. Fuck them
Look up inthey work for you, Alice Mahon hasn’t been an MP since 2005 so can not be got at.
Alice…do the right thing, come out of retirement and stand again, Brown has a good sat for you next door at Calder Valley or Luddenden Foot even!
I’ve just heard her on BBC’s News 24.
She eloquently makes several valid points about how the Labour party machine works. MPs being deselected, being shouted down and hounded for not toeing the party line, etc.
I’ve said that this week has seen a major shift in political polarity. The media are now (stung by Guido) openly castigating the government, in a way I haven’t seen since the John Major years.
Alice Mahon is one of those genuine people that believed that the Labour party stood for the defence and betterment of the poor and disadvantaged in society. I just wonder how many more Labour MPs like Alice will have the gumption to stand up to the Labour bully-boys and reclaim their party.
Difficult to praise somebody that is no doubt a millionaire from laying under the open spigot of taxpayers money for decades.
Looks like she’s lost Polly Toynbe’s nose peg…
Talking about Brown’s cheerleader Polly Toynbe, she’s written an article in today’s Guardian without a single mention of her hero…….It’s probably jealousy of Damian McBride’s good looks.
Most commenters seem to assume she is still an MP. She was MP from 1987 to 2005. Guido wasn’t very clear in his intro.
Guido, you should link to the Yorkshire Post story:
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/39Sickened39-MP-Alice-Mahon-quits.5182941.jp
How long before we hear the smear stories about Alice Mahon? And in what newspaper?
Anyone opening a book on what the smaear is and where it appears?
I preferred it when she was called the Isle of Anglesey.
Nice…very clever!
‘Ten green Bottles’ is buzzing round my head.
O/T but Heather Brooke of FOI fame and the TPA have been involved in a ‘Dispatches’ program to be screened on channel 4 this Sunday. Titled The Westminster Gravy Train, it should be worth watching. Maybe someone will inform McNulty et al, I’m sure they’d be interested. Certainly Jacqui will want to see it, being a bit of a voyeur and all.
Interesting site the TPA …
http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/
or ‘Ten Green Blow Flies Buzzin’ Round A Turd’
Looking forward to watching the programme.
l’m a fan of TPA, and hopefully it will raise their profile in the public arena.
Jack faces questions (all on her lonesome) on Monday, so unless she has a
tv in her toilet, l think the squits will prevent her from viewing.
Jack could lessen her time on the gallows, if she announces her resignation,
and adds: “Gordon made me do it”
She’s probably got a book deal with Rupert Murdocjh.
MP = Military Police, wouldn’t trust one of them. The only honest thing about them is that they all tell lies. Worse than estate agents, bentkoppers, TV presenters, Sky Weather Forecasters, wheel clampers, timeshare salesmen.
An honest politician is a contradiction in terms. There’s million of them all with snout in the trough.
No wonder Jacqui Smith is called Home Secretary……….homes everywhere at taxpayers expense…..I wonder the time and effort for a cabinet minister to fill-out an expense form for an 89p bathroom plug.
I’m sure it was 88p She owes us another penny
We got off light. They’re £1.46p in Wickes.
o/t but Labour are already practising for the general election.
http://maninthestreetblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/labour-ballot-box-tampered-with.html
http://mrmonkeysblog.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/exclusive-council-leader-iain-malcolm-rigs-ballot-to-cheat-tory-pat-piggott-out-of-victory/
Labour appear to have taken steps which have diluted the voting process in ways which permit corruption.
It’s all very nice getting all moral now, isn’t it?
It’s the political equivalent of a notorious criminal finding God on Death Row.
It has taken her this bloody long – it’s not conscience, I’d wager, but self-aggrandisement. That’s what politics, and in particular, Labour, is all about.
Hear my voice! Look at me! I’m special! All this time I have been thinking of you! I had nothing to do with any of the corruption of the last twelve years!
Hypocrite. Lickspittle.
There were and still are a lot of very good people involved in the Labour party, although I am an out and out Tory and was a member for many years, My wife was actually in the Labour party for about the same amount of time, she rose to become the local secretary in our region.
The stories she has told me about the deceit and lies that the Blair/Brown pact touted to get the votes they needed to usurp the Labour party are frightening.
Local people were promised positions of influence in a new government if it was formed, they were told lies about organisational formation of local government.
Then as soon as Labour came to power they were all sacked or sidelined in to nominal positions while the Blair/Brown Gestapo received their initiation in to the now safe positions.
The whole Labour party is now run like a union closed shop, my wife is now a Tory, now that she has seen how a Labour government acts.
As for me, well I remember the 70′s, frankly I can’t see the difference!
I think the Dolly Telegraph must be odds-on for the “Alice Mahon has Alzheimers and is going loopy” story.
If State TV are leading with Labour Ballot rigging and Alice Mahon 1 & 2 on the headlines, we know something must be going wrong. The Labour party is falling apart at the seams.
If a fish rots from the head, I think the gills and ventral fins are now starting to go too.
So she doesn’t mind that whole war thing, but a few emails and she ups and leaves? Doesn’t sound very ‘decent’ to me.
Is that the line from the bunker?
I am Ozymandias Brown, look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair, I am the LEADER and I know best
somebody needs to get frank fields over to the tories,at least he fell out with this lot in 2000.
unlike this old bird,who emptied the trough at the farm first.
Yes, Frank Fields does seem fairly decent for a politico. And yet he must know that even in its hay day Labour was always a sham. How many of the old Union leaders did deals to get into the House of Lords etc. etc….. The back-biting for position in those days was intense. The public interest always came last.
Frank Field disappeared off my ‘moral’ radar following his disgusting apology to Brwon over the 10p tax band fiasco.
It was one of the most demeaning apologies I have ever heard from anyone.
I’m told he had his fingers crossed behind his back so it does not count.
McBride must have had something on him.
It was either that or the gay smear in the News of the Screws.
I feel sorry for Frank Field, but it was obvious from Rose Addis and old Mr Wolfgang what a bunch of shits they were covering up for from almost the beginning. The past 5 years Guido has been explaining this daily, so if anybody didn’t know it must be because they had their heads stuffed firmly up their bums.
Rose Addis 2002: the NHS treatment which an elderly lady recieved was complained about. The Labour party spun this by immediately and falsely accusing her of racism, and blackened her family’s reputation by suggesting they had not looked after granny. This was an explicit policy of aggressive rebuttal. They also blamed the Conservatives for daring to raise the issue, claiming that legitimate criticism was political opportunisim.
“Professor James Malone-Lee, clinical director at the north London hospital…. …told BBC’s Newsnight that Addis had refused to be treated by ‘that kind of nurse’. Was he implying racial overtones? ‘I imagine that people could deduce that,’ he said. The Tories had also discovered that Malone-Lee was an active Labour supporter and were encouraging sympathetic papers to portray him as a party stooge.” (Guardian Sunday 27 January 2002)
The hospital apologised the next day, but the political job had been done. An elderly patient had been smeared, first with her own blood and then with lies to disguise that negligence, and it was done to preserve the image of the NHS, Labour’s flagship issue. (See where the mother of Baby P learned her cover-up tactics?)
What part of ‘shits, shits, fishgut-stinking self-serving crab-cracks’ do they not understand?
Yes, Fields seems to be a decent man, even if a naive lefty. How does he rate as an expenses trougher?
One of the best – which ain’t saying much -
# Property:TotalMPExpenses07: £126,359
# Property:MPCommsCosts07: £6,663
# Property:MPStaffCosts07: £0
# Property:MPITCosts07: £1,214
# Property:MPStationaryCosts07: £1,389
# Property:MPCentralStationaryCosts07: £567
# Property:MPOffStaffCosts07: £98,711
# Property:MPOfficeCosts07: £8,242
# Property:MPLondonSupp07: £0
# Property:MPSecondHomeAllowance07: £9,573
She’s the first of many…
“She can no longer stomach how [Labour] operates”.
So, read another way, up until this very moment she has been able to stomach the way Labour operates.
This is one old woman with the stomach of a strapping 24 year old oil rigger. If she thinks she can disguise her carefully-judged retirement ahead of an electoral catastrophe as being the result of a slowly building distaste for her party that has now proved unendurable then, as many have observed here, you have to ask WHAT KEPT YOU, HONEY? ARE YOU SUFFERING FROM LATE-ONSET MORALITY?
If she has been too timid to come forward in support of her constituents and speak her mind before, given what appears to have been ample provocation, then it would be interesting to see to what extent that timidity also applies to her expense claims.
You should have stayed, sweetheart, your cynicism is valued by your party
I’d like to email her my support in what she’s done, but I can’t find an official email addy.
Anyone?
alice @ maHOON.com
Lets hope she is the first of many,
Remember a few years back casually walking up Downing Street and having a photo taken of the missus outside the front door of number 10 with Dixon of Dock Green looking on & politely smiling…….evening all.
When they put up them Downing Street security gates never realised it was for keeping Blair & Brown’s rottweillers in, should have used a muzzle on McBride.
I preferred it when she was called the Isle of Anglesey!
is taken her 10 years to work this all out…
quite naive to say the least….
This is very sad for the labour party – she is held in great esteem by the labour party and is in the same class as Betty Boothroyd or the great Barbara Castle.
The Labour party is in its death throwes – general election should be called after the budget to allow the country a choice.
By the way Tom Watsons blog seems not to be accepting comments !
That’s because he is not receiving anything complimentary enough to publish – a bit like to DT, with luck his blogging days as well as his political career are coming to end. As for the DT well…………..
Sorry that should have read – a bit like the DT..
Alice Mahon was a Labour MP, in the old tradition of having principles; that they were/are different than Tory principles is neither here nor there.
She didn’t need to speak out, at her age she doesn’t need the grief, so I applaud her for doing so.
Who needs the grief that Nu Labia are inflicting on us at any age? You don’t have to be old to get fucked over by this bunch of thugs.
The coffin-dodgers in the Labour Party don’t have much to lose – they should come out with what’s on their minds now or be forever judged.
So she was ok with Iraq and all the other Neo-Labour fuck ups?
Or is she just another rat deserting the Titanic?
Got it one…when Crash Gordon pushes the English public too far and the revolution comes, she’ll be able to point to her cancelled subscription when the liquidation squad comes a-calling, and will avoid joining her former comrades in the mass grave.
I could transform British politics from the crooked mess it is in, into something a lot more honest, for about £70,000. This is what I estimate it would cost to put a hooded box by every seat position in the chamber, have two buttons (yes and no) in the box, and have members vote on the spot. This would include a box showing the results but not until the end of the voting time limit, say five minutes. Double that if you want to include a fingerprint scanner to prevent double voting.
That would end the party whip system in one fell swoop, save at least fifteen minutes of parliamentary time at each vote, and because of that, increase the number of votes per session.
Labour has already passed 3000 new laws – don’t encourge them to criminalise more of us.
3605 new laws from 1997 up to September 2008. Hey Seth if you are missing 605 laws there’s a chance you could have broken one without knowing! Watch out for Plod arriving at your farm…
Stand by for the smearing of Alice Mahon!
Hilarious – my post about how Brown/Smeargate was described by Draper in 2005 has just appeared on LabourHome.
http://www.labourhome.org/story/2009/4/18/5567/65610
you would make a fearsome bounty hunter.
If she’s not even a bloody MP, then is this really a story?
What an admirable woman. I am a Tory, and yet I agree with everything she says. I am sure there are many more decent people like her in the Labour party, unpromoted and treated with contempt by Blair and Brown.
took her 12 fucking years though didn’t it?
Meanwhile they buggered the country AGAIN!
Bitch.
In victorian times the choices for the elite were The Clergy or the Army.
Todays elite choose law or politics and dont care what party they are in as long as it is the party in power.
‘Too late the Hero’ Mahone and other public servants just dont cut it.
Is she a slow thinker or what?
Is the Email scandal the only thing that disgusts her about Nulabour?
Too little too late. She was an MP for years whilst the Blair/Brown were busy destroying the UK.
Here, here – what a stupid cow.
Was she a victim of McBride/Whelan/Draper/Watson?
A later conversion is better than none
A sign of the times
Can’t understand why we still cling to this New Labour/Old Labour fairy story.
If there is any vague fault line in the party then it seperates the self-deceiving corrupt from the cynical corrupt; this is of no real interest to anyone outside the party – they all know what they sign up for. Face facts: it’s just Labour being Labour.
I don’t buy into the New Labour myth. They are just Labour. A bunch of socialists who pick your pockets and give it to the feckless. They always end up ruining the economy and always will.
Spot on. The last time these shitbags were in power look at the state we were in. Remember 1979?
There should be a law that bans fat Scottish one eyed arseholes ever being allowed to run England.
You sir, are a racist c.unt
And the Scots are not?
Only against England, and for good reason.
Alexei Sayle said it’s ok to be racist against those who have power over you. Which means its ok for the English to be racist against Scottish sausage jockeys like you. Fucking arsehole.
Alexei Sayle said it is ok to be racist against those who have power over you. Which means it is ok for the English to be racist against the Scots, you fucking arsehole.
This is directed at HEY NONNY MOUSE (That the best you can do for a name?)
Firstly, I am not Scottish, I am Lincoln born and bred.
Secondly, you shoot yourself in the foot with the statement about power negates racism.
Thirdly, Alexei Sayle is a jumped up “new wave” comedian, running on the backs of real comedians.
Fourthly, any fucker knows that racism is wrong.
I think YOU are the arsehole.
We don’t need her type in the Labour party anyway.
These people just spoil it for the blindly following Labour voters like the People of Middlesbrough, who keep voting me in when I don’t even live in this country never mind my constituency for most of the year.
Are you the Bell who writes porn novels and supports peados?
whilst alice is not my cup of tea politically she did have a lot of respect in her constituancy and is very well known for her work locally , for what its worth i do think we had to go to war in iraq although it would have been much better if we had done the job in gulf war 1 .
She is right , whilst the kinnocks and haterslys made socialialsm upper class (and alice is of that block) , the left was more in unions and town councils and so could be manged , the blair spin which we are now told is erm “professional press office ” helped win them there 97 and 2000 elections.
but whilst blair kept his word , the leftest nutters were taking over the labour party and the BBc and the quangos bit by bit , critical mass occured and push to move blair and reveal the real labour party !!!
national socialism is a wonk ideaology based on a warped concept of science and evolution , total state fear , knowing about you , monitoring your habits and adjusting policy .
well alice now realises we have nutters tech pumped up version of national socialism , a bunker , direct control from the great leader , and no votes on what labour promised such as lisbon treaty , and what i think upset alice the most was the renagaing on the party confernce promise not to sell off the post offfice.
It may be that halifax will be hit by HBOS job lsses and she must very let down .
Nice woman , did her job and fought for what she thought was right with a soft voice and graceful language , prefered her to hatersley any day.
more dogey goings in thameside labour candiate selection , ballot box has been tampered with !!
Alice mahon is leaving the labour party on principal , she said the democratic structures had gone , caesars wife thinks the intellectual structures left some time ago in the labour party , and the sentemtality of kinnock was bestowed onto blair , who was then knocked off by the nutter socialists , she may well have timed her realisation very well in leaving her political career with some respect .
she may stand as independent , who knows .
but she is right , this is not the labour party , its some weird , twisted nutters clinic who have at last got what they wanted only to find , it was a flaccid dysfunctional thing anyhow , and we are all going to have suffer , and they have broken britain in some places , really mind warped it in some areas.
as tribute to carry on producer peter rogers they played the scene from carry on caesars (although my favourite is carry on up the khyber) here kenneth williams “infamy inafamy theve all got it infamy”
too true , when some one like alice mahon quits ,
casears wife was in fits
Good post.
Good Post? HD – you’ve been on that wall too long. She sounds like a brain-dead old lefty with her head up her bum.
“……….for what its worth i do think we had to go to war in iraq”
Supports an illegal war in which hundreds of thousands of innocents have been killed? – a vicious old bat too.
The quote/joke is “infamy,infamy ,they’ve all got it IN FOR ME”.
I can’t believe how many Labour numpties have headed this way now the 88p bathplug has been pulled on their party.
Labourhome must be one huge pack of shite if they have to head over here for entertainment.
It must be a bit of a cultural shift coming to a website where people actually say what they mean, and are allowed to say what they mean.
Poor old Mc Brown, he’s running round like a chicken with his head cut off (there’s a thought!).
No wonder when he’s surrounded by a bunch of thieving incompetant idiots. Spending too much of their time fiddling expences and covering there arses and very little time running (or should I say ruining?) the country.
“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” (Edmund Burke)
Or batty old women….
[...] Guido and Iain are talking about [...]
So what!
Linda Riordan holds Halifax now with 3417 majority. It would be much more of a story of she quit. Funny how old Alice took so long to find her conscience. It is more likely she is trying to save her soul and position herself to grand old damehood of that nice caring ‘old’ Labour she thought she worked for.
Halifax is another crap UK town full of Labour windowlickers who would vote for a turd of it had been adorned with a red rosette.
It does however, have a kid’s museum which rocks and – strangely, a Ukrainian restaurant, which does not.
Apparently, ISRAEL is poised to STRIKE against Iranian nuclear facilities in the next week!!!! Well worth a read, and some on BLANEYGATE as well!!
http://ddtaylor88.wordpress.com
Why don’t you fuck off and stop spamming sites? No one gives a shit. NOBODY!!!
Funnily enough, I do give a shit, if it’s true.
Well I hope it turns out nice for them as there has been a lot of rain recently
As others have said, why did she leave it so long? But better late than never and it’ll cause a bit of conscience-searching in the party. ‘Conscience’? I’m sorry, i don’t know what came over me then.
We are now entering a crumbling Autumn of the Patriarch world where decrepitude and decay attempt to mask vacuous sadness and self-loathing.
In a country where democracy meant anything at all we would be going to the polls in June – however rigged.
But the dying days of a regime, fraught with madness and devoid of perspective, can seemingly last forever. And when we do eventually get to attempt recovery from the Nu Labia years, the smell of scorched earth will be linger in our nostrils whilst those that arse-fucked us retire gracefully into their dotage, comparing vintages in each others’ Tuscany villas.
If only for the sake of our own self-respect I don’t really see why we should let them get away with it.
resignation, retirement or voted out of power, they lose all their ill gotten
gains.
> We are now entering a crumbling Autumn of the Patriarch world where decrepitude and decay attempt to mask vacuous sadness and self-loathing.
I didn’t realise Will Self had been invited.
Disgusting as New Labour they are, those with a memory will know that there’s clearly a limit to any pre-spin labour decency. Remember 90% marginal tax rates, soviet moles and Robert Maxwell.
New labour was a project to scurrilously manufacture socialist consent.
I don’t think that much of Mahon’s conscience. Why has it taken her so long to resign from her unprincipled, sleazy party? She was probably waiting for her superb MPs pension to reach a certain level.
HOW DO WE DEMAND UN OVERSIGHT OF DEMOCRATIC PROCESS?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6116023.ece
It won’t be long before Brown and co are smearing Alice Mahon.
Stop press: I see the Labourbots like Tim on politicalbetting.com have already started.
J**
She is old married and white
You would fuck her wouldnt cha?
No, but I know a man who would at public expense.
Bloody good post and good on yer Alice…now shout it from the rooftops
shame it was not 1997 though huh?
I’d still do her.
99% of people who visit here, would concur..
The problem is not New Labour or for that matter Old Labour, Blair’s government or Brown’s government. Labour have treated the 12 years in power exactly the same way they treated the 1970′s and 1960′s they do not understand the economy at all. In the 60′s and 70′s they assumed if you pour money, anyone’s money into an industry or throw it at a problem it must get better. Well it did not work in the 60/70′s with gas, steel, electric, coal, cars and it has not worked in the 2000′s with “education, education education”, health service and local services. We have had an unprecedented amount of money spent on education but still we turn out huge numbers of children who can’t read and write. Then we spend lots of time ringing our hands and trying to decide which new initiative will solve the problems, new types of failing schools, crush what’s left of grammars, even though they work, like mr Micawaber (Ed Balls) something will turn up. Accepting that schools can function with 100 different languages and still we can’t teach our own children to read and write……………..well lets look at the teachers and what they have to do. They are there to teach not act as social workers.
The health service again has large amounts of new funding yet people are treated in dirty, dangerous wards where they come in for a minor op and end up in intensive care because of MSRA. Yet when this is exposed the ‘whistle blower’ is the one disciplined not those responsible for the dirty disgusting conditions in which they are treating patients.
The government is too interested in arresting or silencing those who are trying to make a difference than sorting out the problems.
The Labour Party (new or old) is not a government but an employment bureau for every half witted, useless, unemployable pointless person who sees public service as a place to get paid and do nothing, and when it goes wrong say “we will learn from the mistakes”. They don’t learn and we pay the bill or suffer from over valued costly dreadful services which fails at very point to deliver what is needed.
When a government fears not what the opposition says but the very people who work for it say, when the good civil servants and local government officers are the ones hounded out of their jobs so that they are either too scared to speak out or just leave then the government’s time in power is up.
When Ministers of State use the police to hide behind, to assault demonstrators (who I share no sympathy or support for) to arrest opposition politicians for doing their job, for sacking whistleblowers for causing embarrassment, for local government officers, social workers and police who break the rules yet keep their jobs then their time to go has come and now.
Cromwell said of the a parliamnent
YOU HAVE BEEN SAT TO LONG HERE FOR ANY GOOD YOU HAVE BEEN DOING. DEPART, I SAY, AND LET US HAVE DONE WITH YOU. IN THE NAME OF GOD, GO!.”
He was right about the rump then and it is right about this self seeking, poisonous, pointless Labour administration.
The cracks will become chasms.
Maybe, just maybe…. What we may be witnessing here is the begining of the New NWO where those that seek to corrupt and subverse are under a true public scrutiny with no hiding place.
We, the peons, the silent majority, have been disgusted, frightened and at last energised by these revealations of just how sinister this cabal of ministers, civil servants and the MSM really is.
Politics can never be allowed to sink to such depths again, these bastards would still have been plotting and strutting had you not outed them.
Follow their future careers and out any organisation that employs these freaks.
Well done Guido, this country owes you an enormous debt.
It all suddenly makes sense. Zanulab… it’s 2009 not 1984, your mind control society is about to be dismantled. Good riddence to the lot of you.
Malice Ahon is an identikit far-leftie polytechnocrat who packed up as an MP two years ago and so has nowt to lose. She’s just giving Gordon another kick for funding “Blair’s illegal war”. Could people please not present her as some kind of authentic old-Labour working class icon. The last of those Mahons was probably Simon Mahon.
Not so decent & no heroine of mine. She is/was a vice president of the Stop the War Coalition, which in 2004 supported the killing of British troops by the “iaqi Resistance”.
“The StWC reaffirms its call for an end to the occupation, the return of all British troops in Iraq to this country and recognises once more the legitimacy of the struggle of Iraqis, by whatever means they find necessary, to secure such ends.”
Well cum on,, the War’s an utter sham…
Could plan better with my old Action man.
When it kicked off I was pro-war, no I aint.
GEt the troops home, and have some Army rebels (Burford)
Yes, the nerve of those Iraqis resisting an illegal invasion!
It all shaping up to look like a very interesting week at westminster, do’nt light the fuse just yet Guido but keep the powder dry.
Best when we are Labour
That should be ‘bust’.
Lets do a deal with the scots. They can export scotch to us and we will
export all of the scottish politicians back to the.No more subsidies for the scots.
Early independence for Scotland – stop sending them subsidies; let them tax each other only. Don’t accept any Scots politicians in Westminster. Deport all the Scots politicians, Cameron as well as Brown. Free England from Scots Labour rule!
We don’t get subsidies; we get a little bit of what we give you back.
fuk da scots…
It’s been proven time and time again – Scotlands Oil revenues, Hydro Electric Power, revenues from Whisky (which exceeds oil revenues) etc… are all sent to south-east England, who squander the fucking lot.
We get very little back. As a country with about 6 million people, It’s been proven we could survive adequately, more so than England could on it’s own without our revenues.
And no, we will not export Scotch whisky to you, you wouldn’t be able to pay for it.
Just listening to QT, our politicians are a waste of time and space. Pointless waffle, tribal politicking and patronising crap.
With her resignation the last hint of morality in the Liebour party has just left the building.
Gordoom, the fat lady is clearing her throat……
Has she finished yet?
Good old Alice, it seems there are a few “old decent labour” left. Though not in the party!
and she did what precisely over the last few years as Blair , Brown and the rest of the ZanZooLabour minkeys fucked this country over and into the ground?
The old girl has finally seen the light, Hallelujah. So what? She has spent her life believing in New Labour/Old Labour/Unions/Socialism/Communism. It’s all the same and it doesn’t work, never did, never will. The idea that you can milk the rich to help the poor is what has broken the country. It’s the policy of envy and ignorance and it’s about as helpful as a chocolate fire guard.
We need laws to protect the poor, the sick and to help people when they are down but that’s not what the Labour/Union/Commies do. They want power and they want the riches that follow power. You want proof? Just look at the Leaders of the pack. Kinnock, Blair, Brown and please don’t try to tell me they entered politics to help others, I’ll be sick. They are now rich men beyond the dreams of most workers, most of whom are now being thrown on the scrap heap through Labour/Commy incompetence and don’t give them the credit for policies, they talk of policies but they are just lies to get power.
It’s the biggest con trick ever foisted on this country and the good people who still vote for them and think the Labour/Union/Commies will help them in their hour of need are troubled souls indeed. You can’t help them; they think their dream of utopia can only come about by smashing capitalism. You might as well eat your own foot and think you’ll get fat.
Capitalism works, all that is needed is decent men in charge of it and every one moves up the ladder. Do you think the Tory/Capitalists smashed the industrial base of this country in order to wreck their bank balances? Of course not it was the Labour/Union/Commies.
So, should we be pleased Alice Mahon has left the Labour/Union/Commy Party? Do you really think this will be the start of end of Brown and his bunch of greedy thugs? I’d love to think so but it needs a lot more than her and Mc Bride down the road.
Nice post…I remember 20-odd years ago at school and all the “ideologically sound” cretins whiffling on about the “Tories and their politics of greed.” When I countered with “Labour and their politics of envy” it was enough to send most of them into red-faced frothing tantrums. I personally would have preferred reasoned debate, but LAbour supporters rarely do that.
My husband left Britain in the mid ’70s… as a Cambridge graduate engineer, the only place he could find a job and a decent climate was SA. After he’d been there a few weeks, he realised socialism and fascism were just two sides of the same coin.
The ANC’s soviet-trained propagandists were active telling people, when they were in power, everyone would have a swimming pool just like the whites and it would be a workers’ paradise… sounded great until you worked out (and as an engineer, he knew) that there wasn’t enough water in the country for every home to have a flushing toilet.
Socialists and fascists just tell lies to get power. Any lie will do.
The Labour Government has run its course.
Somebody (not me) has started a petition on the No10 website calling for an immediate general election. I’ve signed it. The memorable and appropriate hyperlink is http://tinyURL.com/SodOffGordon
If the Opposition parties got their act together and forced a vote of No Confidence in the current Government, as happened 30 years ago, Alice Mahon is the sort of Backbench (ex) Labour MP who might very well (I hope) vote against the Government and would still have a good chance of being re-elected next time, assuming the Vote of No Confidence succeeded and Labour were ousted…
There’s more about the pressing need for change at http://tinyurl.com/cjke75
In the Times article on this resignation it was reported that (Mad) Harriet Harman has called for renewed confidence in the party and Gordon Brown’s leadership.
Speaking at today’s gathering of the Labour LGA group she said: “I think now is a time for us to be confident and for us to be determined,”
“Every day it is clearer that we have the answers to the big questions and the big future challenges. So we should be confident, in our record, in our values, in our leadership and in our team.”
Ms Harman went on to say that the party was “fortunate to be able to look to the leadership” of Mr Brown.
She added: “He is demonstrating conviction leadership.”
So did Hitler, Harriet you fucking eejet and look what he done!
Is this woman fit to be in government as she is obviously seriously, possibly criminally delusional? There are wiser locked up.
Harman reminds me of Hitler’s trusty Lieutenant Karl Dönitz. He was a delusional follower of Hitler right to the end and look what happened to him. Harriet you have been warned!!!
Mad people are always funny.
Lady Gaga has obviously not taken her Largactyl today.
the link foe Alice in the “seen elsewhere” seems to go to a 404
Alice Mahon took a very principled stand over the illegal and brutal attack on Yugoslavia.
She should have resigned then.
The mass murder of innocent Serbs and the ‘bombing of Serbia back to the stoneage’ by a mad general who had already incinerated dozens at Waco is and was the worst war crime in Europe since WW2.
Better late than never.
This is of course complete bollocks. Old Labour was just as bad as “new” Labour when it came to smearing and crushing civil liberties. Callaghan and Wilson were up to the same games with an equally compliant, anti-tory press – remember Marcia Williams aka Lady Forkender and all the other first generation spin masters.
Wilson may not have sent troops to Vietnam, but he publicly supported the war. And Callaghan was famously quoted, after losing to Mrs Thatcher, as saying he wished he’d had a war to gain public support.
More recently, once Blair became opposition Labour leader, the BBC never asked Conservative spokesmen to comment on news stories, unless it was to harangue them. But Blair’s people were always welcomed – and treated as if they were already in government.
But now it’s payback time as we watch the rats desert the sinking ship.
So the governing political party decides to smear the disabled son of the leader of the opposition. One ex MP resigns, and it’s front page news.
Presumably the remaining 177,000 Labour Party members thought this was acceptable behaviour then?
You really have to wonder what the Labour Party has to do to lose the confidence of the rest of the party? Murder innocent civilians on the streets perhaps?
Oh no, of course they have already done that.
So what exactly does this revolting bunch of scum have to do before they have no supporters left?
Nothing. They have already done everything. Whats left supporting them is as you say scum
One way to reduce them to irrelevance might be to disenfranchise benefit claimants and state employees, except the military. Also prevent anyone but native British from voting in British elections. That would destroy Labour’s voting base.
Definitely just us native British!!It is insulting to think that my vote, earned by generations of forebears who lived, died and defended this country and made it what it is through their sacrifice and labour, can be cancelled out by some incomer who cannot even speak our language.
But wouldn’t it be nice if we ‘native British’ actually had someone to vote for!!Some party who looked after the interests of the native british. Dream on!
The Scots at least have their Nats – who will do very well methinks.
I’m sick of writing none of the above on ballot papers! although I intend to vote for the unmentionables in the Euros.
You watch the next elections – the handfuls of postal votes, the banana republic syndrome and ethnic areas returning labour MP’s en masse.
Our democracy is now a travesty.
The whole thing is, the Labour party are finished. They know it, and they know we know it.
All that’s left for them is to string it out with rhetoric such as “the expenses law needs reformed, blah blah blah…”
All they need to do is stop claiming these extortionate fucking expenses, no need for a new law or rule. But that would be being honest, which none of the fuckers are!
I will be voting LD, because Vince Cable is the only politician that talks sense. I don’t give a fuck if the rest of the LibDems are arseholes, I can see a politician in Cable, ergo they have my vote.
Fuck me! I had to pay 210.00 for fucking road tax today, to allow me to ruin my fucking car driving over massive potholes every fucking where. What a shitty country we are living in, because of greed…..
I run a business in the Halifax Constituency where Alice Mahon was MP for 18 years. She was a died-in-the-wool local ex-councillor who was a good constituency MP. Don’t underestimate how difficult it would have been for her to leave the Labour Party.
I live in the Calder Valley Constituency and what has been ignored so-far-is the second part of her resignation reason which I heard on the news at 11am: the method of selection of the Calder Valley Labour candidate last week. This is Cherie Blair’s step-mum, Steph Booth, who won with a majority from a large number of postal votes against another woman who had a majority of those present at the meeting. When is the national media going to catch on to this one as well as E & T?
It’s brave of Alice to bring this up though. The selection in 2005 of Linda Riordan who used to work in her office I believe, as her successor as Labour MP for Halifax, was queried at the time by an unhappy and plausible defeated candidate, a fellow local councillor.
Both these seats had all wimmin short lists.
I just hope that the Conservative candidates are up to the job of winning both these seats which could fall into their laps. Both seats have been Conservative: Donald Thompson in Calder Valley, Maurice Macmillan and Roy Galley in Halifax, so must be prime targets.
Incidentally, the BBC news video shows her in the CV at Hebden Bridge by Lock 9 of the Rochdale Canal.
Who gives a fuck?
ALL politicians are now indelibly smeared with corruption, and if the UK populace have any sense, they won’t even bother to vote.
Although, if I do turn out, I’ll probably go to the pub instead.
You’re just the kind of mindless idiot that Brown loves. Either cast your vote – or recede into your dumbed down, please tax me to hell and back, Gordon, and dry-fuck me in the arse while you’re doing it, alcoholic haze – that’s your choice. But if you don’t care about politics, stop leaving stupid comments on this site.
Where were her principles while labour were doing everything they could to destroy the economy/country and democracy/freedom generally since 1997, and lying about it throughout ? That doesn’t seem to bother her (or anyone else in labour)
She’s quit over something relatively minor which doesn’t effect “real” people, and she doesn’t give a flying fuck about her party annihilating the country since 1997. So she gets absolutely no respect from me.
Is anyone having trouble googling “Shami Chakrabarti”
My connection is ok, even difficult sites appear, but I get nothing googling for her….
Has anyone ever achieved so little in advancing the cause of the stated aims of their organisation as Shami Chakrabarti of Liberty?
to those of you who have been laying into AM. I am a rabid conservative who right through the nineties would always name Alice Mahon as the MP I most disliked – she was the essence of Neolothic labour. However, over the years I became quite fond of the old dear. Maybe it was her wooden delivery: she was possibly the worst speaker in the Commons. Maybe it was her naivety about politics: she entered Blair’s government only to resign about two weeks later in protest at his voting with the tories – the first Blair resignation. One thing though – even in the depths of my dislike – that I never had any doubts about was that she was a woman of great principle. And when she says: “My stepdaughter Rachel said to me: ‘How could they do that to people like David Cameron and his wife Samantha when they had recently lost their son Ivan? What kind of people think it would be a good idea to smear them?’’ we think of harriet harman or some of the other new labour politicians who just have to open their mouth for insincere comments to come out. but when alice mahon says these things – i know that this will be a shock – she really means them! She says what she thinks! She had nothing to lose with this but nothing to gain. From her terrace in Halifax she just wants to make an honest to God statement of dislike for a man and a system that has disilliusioned her. I think Guido said it best: Decent Labour versus New Labour…
This isn’t the dead tree press or twitter. You can have paragraphs without loosing text. It’s the big key with an arrow on it.
Re Labour/Commies. Can’t agree I’m afraid. The daft following the dishonest as far as I’m concerned and as for principal, everybody has a different version. It’s what starts wars.
Anyway lets move on it’s yesterday’s news about a yesterday woman.
Derek Draper’s Greatest Hits!
Going to hit the sack….. will dream of honest polititions, Mc Brown leaving No 10 in chains, the members of the cabinet hanging from lamposts by whatever is the most painfull.
I’ll wake up in the morning, won’t have won the lottery. MMMM nice dreams!!
Nice dreams are restricted to MP’s and SkySat card carrying inner party apparatchiks.
Non Party members are required to Strictly Come Dancing for entertainment.
“My stepdaughter Rachel said to me: ‘How could they do that to people like David Cameron and his wife Samantha when they had recently lost their son Ivan? What kind of people think it would be a good idea to smear them?’
That’s a bloody good question, Rachel.
What kind of people, indeed?
Why didn’t she leave earlier you ask?
Expenses my dears, expenses.