Smeargate Still Rumbles On
The Smeargate story still has legs, though it has moved from the front-pages to the comment pages. John Lloyd in the FT makes the point that the all party shift towards non-ideological, centrist politics means the personal becomes more political - “That view is a rational one, in a politico-media space as tuned to scandal and personality as the British one now is.”
The Sun editorialises against Tom Watson, the Downing Street Minister for Mudslinging,
THE stink of a cover-up hangs over Downing Street.
Cabinet Secretary Sir Gus O’Donnell rules out an inquiry into whether minister Tom Watson knew about the “Smeargate” emails. He says he is happy to accept the minister’s denials, and the case is closed. That might be good enough for Sir Gus. It isn’t for The Sun. How can we know the full facts without an investigation, which means examining ALL emails involved?
The Sun is gunning hard on this issue saying “Watson, McBride and Draper are the true face of today’s Labour Party: A party that has lost all decency, all sense of honour, all connection with the people it was elected to serve.” Guido has a theory that Watson has swallowed Gordon Brown’s moral compass.
The Times say Whelan has to go. Well maybe he would go if we could find him. He has gone into hiding. Another public interest service from Guido.
If Watson swallows, it would be more than just a moral compass…
By the look of his fat face, it happens on a very regular basis!
A case for castor oil if ever there was one
Jacquiboots getting the lighted matches under the fingernails.
JC! that woman is a stupid cow!
Like that Laura Kuensberg(?) woman – she’s heaps better than Toenails or Further
Laura Kuenssberg has been much in evidence over the past few days reporting on the McBride/Draper sleaze. She seems a sensible and competent sort and, so far, seems to tell the story as it. Wonder how long she’ll last at BBC front-of-house if she continues in this vein of independence and objectivity.
Too damn right Henry.
I need danger money for working in No 10.
I am the leader of the gang (I am)
“Guido has a theory that Watson has swallowed Gordon Brown’s moral compass.”
Here’s hoping that Mr Watson washed it first … you never know where it’s been with Gordon.
God I nearly threw up when I read “Watson has swallowed Gordon Browns……”
Please the very thought.
Camp arse? Which ways does it point – magnetic or true North?
Seriously….
WTF is the point of Gus O’Donell?
He is happy to except the ministers word???? WTF??
After all these tricks???
Seems like we need to get rid off Gus as well
What about this suggestion that there may be more smear emails to appear?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6101635.ece
Beat me to it – a slip of the pen?
I don’t think so :lol:
Looking forward to the weekend…
Yep, get the popcorn.
Nice to see tht Gus O’Donnell has walked into Guido’s trap.
Don’t be too hard on Sir Gus, he’s got his (rather large) pension to worry about so another whitewash is par for the course.
Bring it on……my crops need it
As another poster previously and very aptly put it
“Please let there be more emails, pretty please with sugar on top”
The DPP has just announced that Damian Gree MP will NOT be prosecuted and even hinted that what he did was in the public interest. The chickens are coming home to roost with a vengeance for Brown and his crew of curs.We need independent inquiries into this affair and Smeargate; they are all part of the same cancer in the Body Politic
Insufficient evidence to prosecute so the question needs to be asked was there sufficient evidence to arrest in the first place, given that the select committee commented that the leaks had been exaggerated? With the hindsight of Smeargate, Greengate stinks, especially as it involved that well-known New Labour protegé Bob Quick. The top echelons of the civil service are not exactly coming out of this looking impartial.
He was cautioned.
If I went and slapped my boss, I’d probably get the same.
The fact that the crown prosecution service does not feel their is sufficient evidence to prosecute him succesfully does not mean he did not commit a crime.
As in, trying to solicit confidential Home office information. More than likelty to leak to sites like his as “smears”.
How ironic
The information was already in the public domain. There was no confidentiality, let alone secrecy involved. Just public and political embarrasment for New Labour and for their Home Secretary in particular.
“The fact that the crown prosecution service does not feel their (sic) is sufficient evidence to prosecute him succesfully does not mean he did not commit a crime.”
Well Mike, if you read the CPS statement that appears to be exactly what they are saying. And even if they hadn’t the fact that the CPS did not feel there was sufficient evidence to prosecute him successfully does not mean he did commit a crime either.
The old system, which worked quite well, was that the police investigated and examined the evidence before deciding whether any crime had taken place and before making an arrest. The new system seems to involve making the arrest(s) first, preferably breaking down doors in the middle of the night and waving guns in peoples faces, then investigating and examining the evidence whilst the arrested persons are on police bail, then taking the file to the CPS for them to decide whether there is a chance of a successful conviction.
Funny old fellow that I am I think the old system is much safer because it puts the rather drastic step of depriving a person of their freedom, damaging their property and seizing their chattels further down the procedural sequence. I would love to know exactly who is responsible for introducing the new system. If it is to ensure that any evidence not already obtained is preserved/seized then it seems to be predicated on a default presumption of guilt and the subsequent police action of arrest and search ought to be tested on the basis of the evidence known at the time of the action being taken. In other words the police should be held accountable for jumping the gun and making arrests which are subsequently found to be premature/unwarranted. Because they are not being held to account they are adopting expedient operational methods that are not in the interests of justice, or which protect law-abiding people but instead only serve as a convenience to the police themselves.
When I served as a police officer (not in this country I hasten to add) we did not go around smashing in peoples doors on the basis of an allegation or suspicion, or search homes/offices in fishing expeditions to see if anything incriminating might be found. We had to have very good grounds for forcing entry, sanctioned by a specific search warrant issued by a judge in response to a statement of evidence, and then breaking was allowed only if entry was refused. Why this country appears to have allowed the police to adopt default Stasi/Gestapo heavy-handed operational methods without any debate in parliament or reservations from the judiciary I have absolutely no idea. In my day breaking in someone’s door was a big deal and an act of last resort – now it appears to be standard operating procedure.
by the way how’s the Manchester ‘terrorists’ doing these days?
What about the Sneinton Dale 114?
All arrested then released without charge.
The police say they had PLANNED to cause prolonged disruption at Ratcliffe-On-Soar power station.
Arrested for things you might do! This could apply to anyone and anything.
So how long will Frau Jacquiboots Schmidt last, after this?
It’ll be Poland next. Mark my words.
WW2 started in Poland…they have form
Wasn-t this want GB was bragging about? How he would always leak stuff? Sauce for the goose etc….
And some complete Labour wanker was on 5 live just after it was announced saying that because a prosecution is not being brought then it doesn’t mean they are not guilty of a crime. He kept pushing this point trying to make out Damien Green and the other bloke are criminals. Complete and utter shower of wankers.
Welcome to Britain.
Innocent until smeared by a dirty Labour politico.
Mike,
Welcome back…..thought you had given up the ghost.
I’ve missed your clear, thoughtful, logical comments.
Mike.
“The material disclosed was claimed by the Daily Mail to have ’severely embarrassed’ the Government by highlighting failures over immigration and other matters.”
This is not confidential home office material.
This is scandalous revelations that are being hushed up by the government.
It is the Opposition’s duty to expose such cover-ups and incompetence.
The fact that you support the Police preventing the Opposition from doing their job just shows what an utter Hoon you are.
At his coronation he makes a speech proclaiming his intent to unite and protect the country against the foreign elements outside her borders and the enemies within.
The increasing mad leader perceives enemies both within and without, and surrounds himself with a cabal of ultra loyal men he can trust, to destroy all those who oppose him.
Yes you have guessed it, Ivan Grosny (the Terrible) and his Oprichniki.
Every time a set of dirty sheets are stripped from the Zanulab bed another set of filthier sheets appear. This will happen until the Brown snot and shit-encrusted, piss-stained mattress is finally exposed and all the rats living inside will scurry off. Then the bed will collapse.
Now that is a couple of smears!
I went over to Kevin Maquire’s column for a laugh, after he was so roughly handled on his bkog’s absurd weekend comments.He is continuing his unpleasant smears BUT the comment facility has now been removed!You could not make this up!
Oh dear that knocks the coverage of the Scottish leg of the Labour Party Promotion Tour ( sorry Cabinet meeting ) onto the bottom of the bulletins – except for our friends at the BBC.
On a postive note – Nokia shares are rising.
…and the jackboot invasion of the parliamentary estate, parliamentary privilege , status of the house, the Braveheart Speaker, all historically important, all must be investigated.
The McSnotty brigade has so much to swing for.
Mr Fawkes might you again put up that Youtube of the GreatRuiner digging his nostrils for food, helps remind us of the nobility of the man.
Yes please
No, in fact belay that last comment. In the films the Gestapo always bang on the door and demand entry before breaking it down. Only in Britain it seems does a fully tooled up SWAT team go straight in, presumably imagining that a fully armed terrorist cell lurks in every terraced house. And as every offence is now arrestable (courtesy of New Labour) they can do that for dropping litter.
Tony Blair must be laughing his head off.
Much though I despise Bliar, one does have to admire his timing!
He’s managed to be cheesy, calculating and stylish at the same time. There’s only so much loathing I’m capable of at any one time and it’s now mainly moved on to Brown.
Not as much as his missus…
Thank you President Blairs for keeping Broon out of office for so long. I think you deserve a Knighthood.
That Tony Bloke made me his no.2 and by right I should be the chuffing PM now. When Tony stepped down as no.1 his no.2,aka me, should have been the PM. If I was in I would not have mucked up the economy as much as that bent scotch twat. If you had me in now you’d be having sex scandals about real men with real women not this namby pamby new labour gay porn women’s lib PC sort of crap. I could have messed (up) this country much better than Gordon. It’s my right as a no.2. Right I’m off now for a meat pie and a no.2
David Cameron’s a bit like Blair, in the way he works the media.
The only problem being, Blair was a man of genuine leadership, and intelligence.
It didn’t all end, when you stripped away the fact that he was a Smiths loving, bike riding, hippy, who loves his wife, and hates smear.
Poor mike,how gullible you are.
“Blair was a man of genuine leadership, and intelligence”.
Mike, thanks for the laugh. The only thing Blair is good at is lying and deceiving….intelligence doesn’t come into it. Just because somebody is a good sneak and con man and knows how to twist the truth and bribe people, doesn’t make them intelligent!
Next you’ll be telling me that Dolly dildo Draper is intelligent!
None of this nulabour bunch are intelligent – this is why they all have massive chips on their shoulders and feel socially inferior – they know they are as thick as pig shit compared to the tories. And the proof is in the pudding – look at the bloody mess they’ve made of the country.
I’m afraid it’ll be back to the burgers for you, Mike No Stars.
117/8/9 – another troll trailing humour in its wake.
the only intelligence Bliar had access to was about WMD and that his shonky mate pinched off the Interwebby thinggy.
Blair hates smear? And loves his wife? Yeah, that’s why he was nicknamed ‘Miranda’ & there’s all those rumours going round about him. As for ’smear’ he invented it & if you think killing 100’s of 1,000’s of Iraquis, based on a tissue of lies is OK – well….
I think ‘dumped’ on McDoom is the correct term, Dogger.
Oh shit, here’s that Oaten fellow again!
“… Another source with close links to Downing Street said the PM’s defence was looking increasingly fragile: ‘Brown has had to stake his defence on this being a rogue operation, a single aberration that nobody else knew anything about.
‘The worry is that someone will produce evidence that it went much wider than this handful of emails and it went much wider than McBride.’”
Downing Street in ‘meltdown’
PR Week 15-Apr-09
http://www.prweek.com/uk/sectors/publicsector/article/898741/downing-street-meltdown/
Yip – just like Watergate (for those with LONG memories or grown up children). The cancer wasn’t routed out overnight – it took a very long time.
The difference now is that we have the communication tools – the Net – to speed things up.
Drip Drip.. as long as we get these charlatans in the end.
…..and it was denied and denied and denied by every bugger, including the president and all his apparatchiks.
If Gus McDonnell was an American oh how history would have been different
‘I am quite happy to accept the word of the president’
Guardian flagging (more to follow) that Hoonface has apologised for the letters. Must be bricking himself; more and more things going wrong, oh dear dear me. Huzzah!
What Letters ? (sorry I wouldn’t read The Guardian apologists rag)
Were these the letters written by a drunk spider holding a 4 inch wide paintbrush (perhaps which is Cilvil Service employed with full gilt-edged pension rights) ?
Think about it, even if you can’t write, at least UNDERSTAND that you can’t write.
After all, weren’t we all convinced that we were being led by a gifed intellectual ?
Jeez.
That PRWeek article is a weapon of mass destruction pointed at McRuined’s temple, way to go…..
‘It is a bit like getting Al Capone on his tax returns; it is actually one relatively minor misdemeanour – by no means are those emails the worst thing that Brown’s operation has ever done.’
Well spotted GG
Slightly reassured with the decision of the DPP. Perhaps the system isn’t as rotten as it may first appear.
Heads have to be spiked after this very smelly affair.
The only head that would have rolled already has. Quick.
My suspicions are that Quick was tipped off by someone in the CPS about the decision not to prosecute, as well as the detrimental comments of the DPP. He resigned from the Met completely and took his pension, rather than take a sideways move.
Yes Sponge.
God forbid that he’d actually have to accept any criticism or be responsible for his actions in anyway.
Yet more sleaze under Brown’s “leadership”.
I know – it’s been said before, and perhaps we are getting used to the words but….
Call an election – ANYONE BUT LABOUR
Yep, the ‘Quick step’ dance he made outside No.10 with his papers on show looks more like a deliberate ploy to get out and dodge the flack.
Stick to the tango Quick!
AH (C)
FFS – this means his “innocent” mistake may not have been nearly so innocent.
I fucking despise these hoons for making me think like this automatically now.
Once one lie is used to cover up another, there is never any going back – it’s an ever increasing circle of bullshit….
Bathplug is next, you watch
It is with little doubt the decision on Green has come out now so quickly when they originally said it would be at least a couple of months (yes they did)
Of course with Quick gone then it can all be resolved very quickly and before the elections in May
Cnuts!!
I assume from this that O’Donnell expects early retirement after the election.I trust Cameron will not give him the customary peerage.
Surely Minister for Mendacity.
Thought you were on holiday!
Charlie Whelan is missing too? No doubt he is in hiding with McBride and Tom Watson who also have not been seen in public since the scandal broke. Sir Gus should remember he’s going to have a new boss in twelve months time – or hopefully not – the conservatives should already be looking for a new incumbent for the post, preferably an old fashioned civil servant who stills believes in old fashioned civil service principles of neutrality and integrity-principles that this present government have completely destroyed.
Old Civil Service principles? Yes Minister.
Isn’t it funny how if I report my neighbour to the authorities for a cultivating a small plot of Cannabis in his back garden, or cheating on benefits I get a pat on the back for being public spirited.
However should I be unfortunate enough work for, or under the heel in government service this hypocritical bunch of wasters scoundrels cheats and liars that is Nulab, (that have the cheek to call themselves a political party), would have you reported, arrested and sacked at the slightest whiff of grassing them up when you try to be public spirited.
Funny how covering up government incompetence always seems to be “In the public Interest”
Welcome to the world of Britain today.
Benefit (Expenses) thieves…Were closing in
That twat Salter is on 5Live being as despicable as we’ve come to expect.
LibDemVoice make a good point about Labourlist and their “donors” -
http://www.libdemvoice.org/labourlist-meet-the-electoral-commission-electoral-commission-meet-labourlist-13676.html
The sh*t is about to hit the fan bigtime, a May Day special. Expect a general election in mid-June.
Not mid June …. please .. .. later maybe during winter of 2009 discontent, that way we have the greatest landslide to root out maximum ZanU-Labour MPs
Sorry but they’re not going to be able to hold things together any longer. It starts in Glasgow.
No matter what shit hits the fan, this side of Impeachment or loss of a Vote of No Confidence, Brown will stay to the bitter end
Dermott’s already down the bookies putting a tenner on June 2009. I hope he still gets good odds we can do with some new cardboard.
AH (C)
Have it on impeachable authority. A doctor is currently writing McCavity a little sick note….
There’s still more to come out, I expect.
This story will run and run As I pointed out earlier. Though it’s hardly rocket science, is it?!
As we found out with Watergate it is not the original story that runs and runs. It is always the cover-up. And the more they cover up, the more people get dragged in and so it goes. On and on.
I do hope you are right just as I hope Timesonline is right in stating that ministers are braced for the release of more emails. By the way, it is said that Tom Watson, McBride and Whelan have gone into hiding, well where is Andrew Dodgshon, he who was going to be the illustrious editor of redrag. No doubt they are all being boys together somewhere sharing a curry and and crying into their beer.
Ive written to my local MP (Labour) asking for confirmation that McBride is no longer employed by Downing Street or Civil Service.
We Need to Know.
I urge anyone on here with a labour MP do similar.
Excellent work Guido! However, is there anything you can add to the announcement that the CPS will not be Prosecuting Damian Green will NOT be prosecuted because the fascists in labour wasted police time and lied about the extent of the leaks? They publicly defamed Damian Green on the news over a matter of days, claiming that he had risked national security. He clearly had not. Will they issue so much as an apology for lying AGAIN!
Will anyone be charged with wasting police time? With lying to the police? For using lies to mislead, distract and delay the anti-terrorist police in vital action defending this nation?
We have a labour party that would rather see the anti-terrorism officers distracted in a political smear mission than see them protecting the people from what THEY claim is the greatest threat to our nation since WW2.
Or is the truth of it, that these fascists in the home office see democratic opposition (as weak and as ineffectual as it is) as a greater threat to national Security than Islamic Terrorism?
Come on Guido, Bring all these bastards down!
Well said !
… and the silence from that upstanding and honourable Jacki is deafening, c’mon Guido, do your duty.
The Home Office fascists are already Islamashites.
We are undone.
Anyone have a link to the Danish cartoonist?
The original complaint came from the CABINET OFFICE which is as you know is the office of the PM. The police changed their tune within the hour and the next police interview had the complaint coming from another government department.
I remember it very well.
It looks as though O’Donnell has gone native. Never thought I’d support anything the Sun says, but on this occasion happy to do so. The whole thing stinks.
Well, he’s got a lot else to answer for now Green is not going to be charged.
I welcome the belated re-admission to reality from the Sun, but still hate the bastards for endorsing this vile and evil group of charlatans in the first place. New labour was always a massive evil malignant scam from the outset. It always was a fucked up mix of communist collective idealism and fascism hidden by warm and comforting conservative lite language.
I am getting me some popcorn, a beer and sitting back to watch the show as this vile slumpage of a party engulfs and destroys itself.
This is long overdue, but no less enjoyable to witness.
Applause.
(be alert for postal vote fraud though).
Has it been determined yet that McBride is definitely no longer employed in any capacity within the civil service or performing any Labour party role?
I started to follow this and then either heard nothing else or just missed it.
Good question! Anyone got answers?
No answers.
Please do write or email your MP and ask them for confirmation (or ask them to enquire and respond).
I have already. I’ll post reply here if I receive one before the answer becomes public.
Sadly, my guess if that it’s all part of the cover up and deception, however.
I’m getting so bored with this smeargate crap now!
It’s about time Labour gave us another shining example of imcompetence to take the piss out of.
Well, I ain’t bored. More of the same!
I must admit i’m looking forward to the next pmq’s,but i suspect Gordon will be in hiding untill it’s all blown over and Harridan will be deployed as a shield again.
Not bored at all.
Want to continue hearing calls of “draw a line under it” from all corners of ZaNu. that way we know they are still squirming and still getting their On-Message daily briefings from the filth at the centre of all this.
Awaiting the next email leak as soon as it quiets down. (Which it already has from the NuLabour Brodcasting Corporation)
What about the Damian Green smears rearing their ugly heads? This adds wasting terrorists officers time due to deliberate and wilful labour lies. Surely heads must roll over that!
(109 “Surely”)
…an assumption too far when corruption, coverup, and putrescence coat the Corridors of Whitehall.
I’m buying shares in the contractors who sanitise the buildings around SW1 2AA
Gordon Brown used to dangle and rattle the 10 Downing Street keys over Tony Blairs head as a way of badgering him out of office.
Has there ever been a more crystal clear example of ‘be careful what you wish for…’?
As I despise her and her ilk, some of the kinder headlines in the past have described Cherie Blair has “Viper”, “Chav Cherie”, and “self-serving, smug, opportunistic, vain and shallow”.
More McBride-Watson-inspired poison perhaps?
Oh, you’re not defending slotgob are you? Every fibre of her being detests the English, she has a chip on her shoulder the size of Brown’s arse and she is as vulgar as a saucy postcard, without the saucy.
Your words or McBride’s?
Remember her supermarket sweep in Australia? That wasn’t McBride with the shopping cart and the heels you couldn’t see for dust.
bristol flats
Sorry, should have been “As much as I despise…”
Erm, so why is nobody grabbing that PC from Draper and examining its contents.
So fcking typical of this country, wait until the evidence is destroyed before starting the inquiry.
see my previous comment yesterday
Well, your Soaraway Mirror hasn’t done them any favours has it ? Showing Dolly taking his computer off for a deep clean FFS ! I thought toilets maguire was on their side !!!
He may not be on their side if he read even a few of the comments on his “.. and friends” site.
yeah, that was a pretty decent kicking for poor old Toilets :D
Have a look at my post 73 on Maguire’s column
Why was Draper doing a runner with his PC?
One can only speculate that it contains e-mails that further incriminate the whole sorry shower. Foolish as they will also reside on the counter-parties PCs and e-mail servers.
What I’d like to know is if anyone thinks Draper, McBride or Whelan could have committed a criminal offence related to any of this?
I think he should be followed.
It’s clear that he’s spilt something rather nasty on the computer and it needs a “thorough cleaning”.
It would – perhaps – have been easier to just burn it in the back yard.
Shows how stupid he is. He could have just removed the hard drive and stuck it in his pocket. Twat + 1/2
reply to 49…
That would require at least a tiny knowledge of IT hardware. Dolly would not know a hard drive from a true story.
What a weapons grade twat. There is a braying mob of photographers outside – they’ll never see anything as discrete as a desktop. There is no way that being seen with it would look in any away suspect. No, just taking it to the menders.
Derek, love, next time just take the fucking hard drive out. You could have slipped it in your pocket and no one would be any the wiser.
As I recall, the still-smouldering remains of the WTC were carted off to China with similar haste.
He could have just removed the hard drive
You think that’s easy? Besides he’s a software specialist, not hardware.
It’s pretty easy yes.
Lloyd’s piece in the FT gets off to a bad start with “Gordon Brown finds his high ideals sucked down into the swamp.”
Er, so what high ideals might those be then?
“The personal is political” is an old feminist slogan and it comes as no surprise that a government so stacked with talentless marxist munters should build a career out of developing the concept – which is, after all, at the heart of political correctness and cultural Marxism.
Yes, they are now reaping the whirlwind – that is what this is.
Gruesome threesome
Well, the one in the middle is OK – just a bit stupid to have ever become involved with Drooper. I don’t imagine this is doing her career at GMTV any good at all.
So, GO’D is simply prepared to simply accept Watson’s word.
This technique would simplify our law courts and speed the whole process.
How do you plead?
Not guilty.
Case dismissed.
I suggest we get Lord Hutton in to give this a thorough going over. Really make the establishment sweat
Whilst smeargate is going on and may even get bigger and the CPS expose what a bunch of wasters the Government really are, Pravda 24 discusses the purchase of electric cars.
This the day after locations are announced to build nuclear power stations that will be ready *after* demand for electricity surpasses supply.
Christ almighty…..
Yep, Peak Energy – bang in the middle of the next Conservative term of office.
Scorched earth?
Yes. Offering £5000 “subsidy” for purchase of those same cars.
But wait, only available in 2012, at lease 2 years after they are all gone.
Scorched earth or deluded.
In any case it shows the depth they – and the BBC – are digging to keep the public’s gaze from the real filth.
I wouldn’t mind being the guy that owns 85% of the worlds uranium supplies, I wonder who it is.
While I’m fully contemptuous and suspicious of the BBC’s editorial choices, the energy crunch – especially in Britain – is a very serious issue indeed. Our beloved government and media have been in collective (or at least publicly collective) denial over this issue for many years.
Something else to bear in mind – many of the austerity measures promoted for the benefit of the green agenda also happen to be the kind of measures you might need to implement if you were expecting to run out of energy….
So isn’t Hydrogen the answer?
Worse, the Scotch Bandit’s brother is top man at one of the nucleur contractors.
Hattip – Dizzy Thinks
@ Foyanero
And how is Hydrogen generated?
Guido, when is the next PM’s Questions (Broon seems to dodge as many of them as possible). Could you arrange some massive revelation at about 11.45am on that Wednesday – just time for it to get on the Blogs, Sky etc but not enough for the traitors to prepare a defence. I’ve got my pop-corn in already.
Cameron would be daft to go on this. He needs to ask about children being put into care because local authorities can’t cope with the repossessions, and all the other ‘real help now’ charade.
Children being taken into care because their parent’s lost their jobs? That is horrific!
Is there any more info on this anywhere?
Exactly right!
I believe it is on the 22nd Apr. After the Easter recess.
What I’m hoping for is direct proof that Snotty Twasnaeme approved McUnbridled’s smear tactics and then for him to have to sit opposite Ant and Dec 15mins later in the House. It would be choice. Could there be a fist fight? I’ve just ordered some more pop-corn.
Isnt that the day the receivers take over UKPLC?
Just before the Budget.
The next PMQ’s is therefore NOT the time for the bomb to explode.
Be patient.
What a disgusting Hoon.
BROWN IS OUT OF THE BUNKER!
Is allegedly to have said that he is sorry for what has happened.
Interpret as you wish!
Is it just me or does he remind anybody else of Tommy Cooper?
no-just a piece of shit!
No surely not… not the admirable, jolly, zany Tommy Cooper. Brown is the epitome of Tony Hancock… including all the stubborn, sour grumpiness. I first saw him as Hancock’s reincarnation when he came down the aeroplane steps on his last US visit, and I now see Hankers in his every move.
Tony Hancock, eh? Whatever happened to him?
It’s just you. Tommy Cooper used to make me laugh just by turning up. Brown just makes me want to puke, regardless.
As Permanent Secretary to the Treasury during Brown’s years as “the prudent Chancellor” (remember that piece of ‘mis-selling’) O’Donnell’ probably came to share a kind of folie a deux with his Master – folie a deux, that rare psychiatric disorder in which a symptom of psychosis -especially paranoia or a delusional belief – is transmitted from one individual to another.
Besides, isn’t it time we threw overboard the notion that dignifying the likes of O’Donnell with a title then gives his pronouncements an added weight or authority they may not otherwise have had?
What is a title bestowed by New Labour but proof positive of complicity and guilt?
Yes indeed Mr C, the cleansing of the civil service, particularly the Cabinet Office, should begin 1 hour after the next administration gets the keys.
No mercy, no pensions, no “an Ermine pew miLords?”, … on yer bikes and reapply for your jobs all of you.
Meanwhile rewrite the Civil Service exams so barriers return to their once formidable heights, it is not only SATS that Liebour have devalued.
Ask Craig Murray for some help.
Convenient that McCavity Brown has hoofed it home to Scotland until the heat dies down.But blaming the Civil Service over the Green affair may not be clever if there are dark secrets in the Cabinet Office.It would have been wiser to feed Jackboot Jaqui to the wolves .She is toast already anyway.
Sorry, bergen, it may be his home but we don’t want him here either.
As posted elsewhere, can’t you just recycle him or something once we have finished with him ?
Please. Don’t send him “home”
so ministers never lie?
fucking ‘ell……it is rarer when they tell the truth!
just to jog your memory gus, try this one………
Iraq has nuclear weapons……….
or this…….45 minutes?
this country is a sick joke…….
corrupt at every level……..and they have the cheek to pretend that they are genuine………whilst riding the gravy train.
It’s like Italy without the nice weather, totty, good food, sports cars, robust attitude to immigration and the EU and the mafia to get things done…
Actually it is a delicious and beautiful irony of timing that labour people hoped to knock the Damian Green arrest into the long grass so that by the time his case was dropped it would be all forgotten about. When in reality it is another example of political smearing of the worst kind, involving the wasting of terrorist officers time and resources, only arising again in the middle of another smear scandal.
You won’t hear much about Tom Watson in the MSM today or tomorrow for that matter. Like all powerful bully boys with money (our money, in this case) he has threatened to get legal with anybody who mentions his name and Smeargate at the same time. And of course, the MSM has rolled over. Fuck them.
http://wrinkledweasel.blogspot.com/2009/04/next-move-in-house-of-cards.html
What a f**king hoon.
I swear Its my destiny to get sent down for either beating some labour funded yoof senseless for trying to mug someone at knifepoint, or chase one of these shit-sucking westminster village genetic defectives down the road and putting my fist into their fat face again and again and again and again…
What do we know about Cabinet Secretary Sir Gus O’Donnell’s personal politics?
And a second, separate question: Has Tom Watson MP got more on Gus than Gus has got on Tom?
According to Amazon he has a couple of publications to his name, including one co-authored with Ed Balls, and another one no longer in print, appositely named “Time expired”
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_b/?search-alias=stripbooks&unfiltered=1&__mk_en_GB=%C5M%C5Z%D5%D1&field-keywords=&field-author=gus+o%27donnell&field-title=&field-isbn=&field-publisher=&node=&url=&field-binding_browse-bin=&field-subject=&field-feature_browse-bin=&emi=&field-dateop=&field-datemod=&field-dateyear=&sort=relevancerank&Adv-Srch-Books-Submit.x=0&Adv-Srch-Books-Submit.y=0
I suspect “Time expired” might be re-published shortly as a memento to his career.
The fact that a civil service officer paid by us, co-writes a book with a Liebour spinner like the crushed Testicular, says it all.
Taxi for G’OD, who reportedly signs his memos just like that!
Blimey – our glorious leader on Sky regarding smeargate:
“I take full responsibility for what has happened”
Nursey must have changed the prescription.
Getting on with the….. hard working… prosperity…. global… America… TWat son…. confidence…. football on Sky…. courage…
Wha? He’s resigned? Called an Election?
Oh.
Getting on with the job…. time to show my vision…. Global…. America…. hard working families…
Full confidence… TWat son…. Smith…. No place…..
“I take full responsibility and that is why I have sacked the person responsible”. You just could not make this up.
Only took a week for that, then.
‘Take full responsibility’? If he does then he’s admitting that he’s been complicit throughout. But what’s clear to Joe Public now is that he’ll always roll over. Just exert public pressure.
Weak man, weak Government. Utterly disastrous for Britain.
“I take full responsibility….”
This was a Bliar trick! The phrase contains just empty words if, by saying them, nothing else happens.
The only words we need to hear are “I take full responsibility and I resign.”
Sorry, just fantasising for a moment there, never going to happen. Besides, the time has passed for any meaningful apology to be dragged out of him. Any such apology now will be with his fingers crossed and designed solely to save his own skin.
At Glasgow they appear to be shouting “bring Brown down” – quite.
P.S. Why no comment on the fact that the e-mails show that the “independent” Labourlist was in fact being driven by the PM’s own office??????
Surely, there was no place for this either?
Are we supposed to believe that this faux independence was not known to Brown either????
Can I make an honest assessment of the Tory party. I’m a Spanish national, so can’t vote, so I hope you can accept that this is totally non-partisan in nature.
I think the tory party would be home and dry in this power struggle, if David Cameron wasn’t the leader. The only thing keeping Labour remotely in it, is the fact that Mr. Cameron is an almost impossible figure to back.
He’s almost a figure of fun (many websites devoted to how hilarious he is). A cheesy, TV exec, turned PR man, who is having a go at politics. The guy’s been leading the party for nearly 3 years, and I guarantee you that the average man on the street couldn’t tell you a single Tory policy, if elected. Why? The fact that he doesn’t actually have any that differ a great deal from the current government.
He seems intent to try and win this election, by some sort of PR media war. Photo shoots of him riding a bike, with a recycled ruck sack, listening to The Smiths, while carrying a picture of his wife and kids, in funky trainers, with tickets to see Morrissey conveniently hanging out of his back pocket.
All the time, screaming from the sidelines, that everything Brown is doing is wrong. But he’s not prepared to say what he would do in his place, on the basis that it could actually involve making policy.
Like Brown or not as a person, but he garners a margin of respect from most of the public as a leader, and someone who will act, with authority. When things go bad, he takes action. He regularly details government policy – even when people might not like it.
He’s not going to win any personality of the year competition, but I think you’ll find that more people trust him to run the country, than the current alternative.
Purely because he has been little more than a self-righteous schmooze monger, who has shouted from the sidelines. He’s like a used car salesman. Nice suit, nice smile, convincing oratory, but as soon as you buy into him, it turns out he’s a clapped out old banger. In times like these people may be unwilling to take that sort of risk.
This should have been an almost idiot proof election to win. Just as Tony Blair whitewashed a tired Tory government, Conservatives should be doing the same to Labour.
The problem is Tony Blair was a man of great intelligence, great policy, and a great leader for his election campaign, and first term. He got in by being a great talker, but at the same time offering revolutionary policy choices for voters.
The Tory Party seem to have said “let’s find an MP who’s most like Blair, in terms of rhetoric” forgetting the fact that his only experience of leaderships is managing Granada TV PR campaigns. Had to guess he was a PR man once is it……………..
I can’t help but feel that if the Tory Party had an intelligent, dynamic policy maker in charge, like say a William Hague, David Davis, Ken Clarke, this election would have been won already.
The problem we have is you are asking the general public to put their trust, in running the country, in very turbulent times in the hands of David “I love the smiths” Cameron, Viscount “I love cocaine” Osborne” and Boris “I’m a clown” Johnson.
And you question why people aren’t sold on the opposition?
The truth being, Cameron is getting away with the fact that Labour have Gordon Brown running the show. I think even the most staunchest of Tories will admit that Tony Blair would have eaten Cameron up for breakfast, and spat out the pips.
Heck, look what he did to Hague? And Hague is one of the more talented MPs in the history of the Tory party.
Although, I feel that the Torys will probably get in via default, I’m not 100% convinced. Purely because Labour really haven’t been going after Cameron yet. Something they have been really saving for election year.
The Tory party have been spending about 7-8 times as much in the last year, hoping to control the media and newspapers.
They will go after Cameron and Osborne though. As both are very weak links in the chain. I think we can all accept that Osborne in particular, is a very frail choice. The guy could basically be 2nd or 3rd in command of the country next year. Labour will go after him, with precisely this point. Probably with the inevitable leaking of the mythical “blacking up” pictures, that I’ve heard about for the last 18 months.
Cameron will be heavily targeted as well. More than likely having to reveal his finances by then, and the fact that he is a multi millionaire.
His lack of policy will make him a sitting duck for claims that he can’t be trusted to lead the country in these meagre economic times (think Bush/Kerry). Fear mongering. Who wants a blue blooded, millionaire, running the country, during hard times for the working classes? A guy who will more than likely have to make significant tax breaks to the rich, to pay back his campaign backers.
And then there is the fact that Cameron has managed to keep a lot of his policies secret, thus far. Well, secret in terms of the media.
The most controversial being he has already agreed to reverse the hunting ban, basically as soon as he gets in. Not even taking it to a public referendum. This could be big trouble for David.
Why? The hunting ban, in terms of voting population, is one of the most popular laws every brought in by parliament. It would pass by 70-80% if it ever went to referendum. So for blue blooded, eton attending Cameron, to go against the will of the nation, and reverse it – when this information is inevitably released, and discussed by the government (quite obviously saving it for election year) he will have little place to hide.
Because, he is already documented as stating, to party backers, that he would reverse it. If he changes his mind, he’s weak, and has stabbed half of the tory party in the back. If he says he won’t (to get in) and then does, he’s a liar, and won’t last more than a single term.
If he actually says he will, pre election, then for me, he probably loses EVERY “on the fence voter” in metropolitan country. You’ll watch in amazement as city votes go from Tory to Liberal Democrats. They won’t vote for Labour, but Labour won’t need them to.
Sorry, I just feel that Cameron and Osborne, and probably Boris Johnson, are sitting ducks come election time. They have so many skeletons in the closet, that it would be unbelievable if Labour HQ doesn’t go for the jugular.
They know that Cameron is the weak link. And the person to target. And fully realise that he possibly isn’t much more than a good PR man.
PR will get you poll leads. But sooner or later you are going to have to be a politician, and make tough policy decisions
Thanks, Hugo. Glad you got that of your chest.
It has been clamed that Broon has resorted to using the S-word.
He must be utterly desperate, only a couple of days ago his
forlock tuggers were claiming he had nothing to say sorry for.
The mans credibility dissapears faster than a fart in a force 10
Meanwhile his old mate Sir Gus has decided the matter is now
closed and the whiewash bucket is in overdrive.
But never fear Guido and the Tories are set to keep digging,
This is just the beginning. I for one will be terminating my Unite
membership forthwith as no doubt will all decent members
Fuck off back to Spain and stick to throwing donkeys of church towers.
Hugo, in my opinion, some of what you say may be partially true.
But this is not Spain. In the UK, the Rothschild bankers and the security services appoint the Prime Minister and the Government. The Crown rubber stamps the decision, and then the election is held and the desired result is manufactured.
What happens in Spain?
“Totally non-partisan” ? check your spanish/english dictionary, I think you may have the wrong word there. I mean it kindly and I say it as a “totally non-partisan” Brit.
Interesting assessment of the Tories – not far off what we think in The libertarian Alliance. I myself am by no means convinced that the Tories would actually _win_ the General Election with any kind of useful majority – and then where will we all be? Probably no worse off than now, since nobody at all would be able to pass any legislation for a few months.
I don’t think Cameron is a clever, cunning Classical liberal, let alone a Whig. He’s exactly what he says on the tin, and Hugo has articulated our fears very well.
if Cameron gets in, ZanuLieBorg will be back in a couple of years, maybe three at the outside, and then we really will be in the cesspit, they will give no quarter, specially to people like Guido.
That was a fairly long attack on David Cameron and it is so wrong in so many places that I just don’t have time to refute them all. I voted for David Davies as Conservative Party leader as I too thought that Cameron was strong on PR but light elsewhere. Cameron’s performance as a public speaker (a major factor for a successful politician) has been exemplary and his performance in the House of Commons so much better than the the appalling Brown. So my initial assessment was incorrect.
There is little point in the Tories being too specific about their policies yet as New labour will only steal them and claim them as their own e.g. inheritance tax.
We do not have referenda in the UK (except to join the European Common Market). There was not one to abolish fox hunting and there will not be one to abolish that iniquitous piece of legislation. If Cameron makes a commitment to hold one on our membership of the European Union then he will be overwhelmingly elected.
Do people really care if he is “blue blooded”? Winston Churchill came from the Ducal lines of Marlborough; Hitler’s father was a customs official. So what?
Sub editor in the house?
202 & 197 – fuck off and look up the word ’sarcastic.” Don’t use me to spout your political agenda.
Hugo, Your only attack on Cameron indeed the tory party is Toff,Bullingdon boy ,one of the upper classes,your statement on no policies seems rather silly as Labour has no new policies except curtailing our civil liberty,when an election is called then is the time to set out your stall and let the customer decide.
From the people I know and work with it seems that a rich toff looks a much better option than the current mentaly stalled prime minister along with the rest of the corrupt labour party which after 12 years has failed never mind all the fiddled figures,expenses,spin,smears,wars,puppet police force and worst of all,something that cant be forgiven, kunts like you.
PThe times assement of Political Bloggers:
“Government appointed stooges, without the intelligence to make it in politics. So snipe from the offshore sidelines, hoping for a pat on the head from their party pay masters.”
Hilarious. But I have to agree!
Hey Guido,
Just shat.
No sign of Gordo’s moral compass (whatever that is ), I am wrongly supposed by you to have swallowed.
My hot shot taxpayer paid legal gunslingers Fart-her Fuck are after your ass.
I am the leader of the gang (I am)
Glad you were able to get that off your chest Hugo. Now can we get on?
It’s very true. If you pissed on David Cameron’s wife, I doubt they’d bother prosecuting you.
Are you claiming they weren’t trying to solicit confidential home office material to leak to the press?
That’s a “smear” I think. How ironic.
As Jacqui Smith is on the news now banging on about how its her responsibility to ensure that sensitive information is kept secure at the Home Office thats why it was necessary ‘we’ take action over the Green affair, why did she deny all knowledge of the police being called in?
Maybe I’m a bit thick, but can someone clear that up for me please?
Only thing is, McBride and Draper were not “elected” and did not “serve” anything except their own fat greasy smelly fucking pig trough faces.
As for Watson, he should resign and stop threatening people with legal action for asking questions about his part in the smear campaign.
Gus what’s his name has taken his “word” that he took no part.
His word means fuck all to me I want an investigation into the twat.
That Gus what’s his name should be sacked for being so fucking spineless and stupid.
Brown has apologised eh?
He needs to get his arse back to Westminster and sort this lot out!
The Gus what’s ‘is name is part of the ZaNu Labour machine.
If you can’t see it by now, you never will. The whole shebang, from Civil Service, police, judiciary, education, health, MSM, the lot.
They’re all part of the Labour party.
The same unis, the same courses, the same common purpose.
You are all obviously people of intelligence.
Do you not see the irony of defending an attempt to extort controversial information from the home office, to release to the media as smears.
And then criticising Labour for about a week, for doing the same.
Unless of course you think Damian Green was planning to use the confidential notes on the home secretary for his scrap book?
Oh yes. I forgot. This is party politics. But to be fair, all Labour did was discuss sleze. They weren’t paying some mole in the Home Office to find it for them.
Wonder when the next Home Secretary leak will appear? Of course, to Cameron it’s “information for the public interest” not sleaze
Mike…
There is a difference between getting hold of sensitive info and making shit up.
See the difference?
It’s a totally different thing!, Making up blatantly false lies about opposition MP’s private lives and their wives as a political tactic to smear political opponents is totally different from exposing factual rank incompetence at the home office of the kind that could produce a realistic and palpable threat to national security. Employing illegal immigrants without ANY background or security checks to guard Ministers and chauffeur them around IS a genuine risk to national security.
For our (2nd)home secretary to waste the terrorist officer’s time to arrest an opposition minister and investigate leaks (of genuine public interest) with a view to keeping her from further personal embarrassment is a serious and grossly offensive and probably highly illegal act.
Mike, for you to draw ANY comparison between the two shows just how much of a fuckwit minded tosser you really are!
Mike, if you want to join us please do us the courtesy of learning to spell.Now you Nuliebour troll, “information” which is true, cannot be a smear.Your hero, Brown, bragged about doing something similar when he was in opposition. Liebour have been using taxpayer’s money for years to pay Spindoctors= smearers.The DPP himself said that Damian Green had acted in the Public Interest and the VAZ chaired Select Committee also said the Police should not have acted as they did and that disturbing questions of public accountability had been raised.Now Fuck off back to Labourlost!
And you are obviously bought and paid for, and cheaply at that.
Yes, he’s been promised a new desk tidy at the end of the week if he can get his quota in – I blame the target culture myself.
He’s been promised a new desk tidy at the end of the week if he can get his trolling up to meet targets and on Friday he and his fellow-trolls will pop down to Burger King to celebrate.
If you can’t tell the difference between the opposition getting access to public information that is being suppressed by a serving government, and the serving government wasting its time making up despicable personal smear stories about the opposition in the middle of an economic depression, then you are obviously not a person of intelligence.
Aha found it!
and here
Gordon Brown on Leaks
and this one
Gordon Brown on Leaks
from al jabeeba:
The prime minister added: “I take full responsibility for what happens. That’s why the person responsible went immediately…”
…aye, immediately as soon as you couldnae reasonably keep him. You would think you sacked him last Friday, not waited to accept his “resignation” 24 hrs later. I thought I heard that his “resignation” was just from the PA role and that he’s still employed by the service???
Want to take responsibility do you Brown? Really?
Immediately….. that’ll be after “A Number 10 spokesman said the messages were “juvenile and inappropriate.” then?
The irony of party politics.
Damian Green pays mole in the home office to leak him correspondance, to feed to the press. Fine.
Labour MPs discuss doing the same thing, without actually doing anything like that. Vile smear ridden government.
You are Mcbride and I claim my £5…
Bullshit Mikey. Making up scurrilous lies about the wives of political opponents is NOT the same as getting factual, but embarrassing information in the public interest about the perfomance of the home office.
You really are a twat aren’t you, fuck off to where your inane bullshit might not be seen through inside one second you second rate tit. Might I suggest you post for the braindead zombie supporters of labour list instead?
Another Liebour Troll. Related to “Mike “perhaps or Damian McBride?The spelling is awful enough; guess you graduated from a Liebour bog standard comprehensive where” pupils have never been so well behaved” (E Ballsup).Now Fuck off again
Please tell us more about Labour MPs looking for Home Office moles to embarrass Jacqboots.
You know the problem is “Mikey” when the truth becomes an alien concept to you, you actually start to believe your own lies. You just don’t get it do you, what a wonderful example of Labour, lost in an ocean of their own shit. One day you will look back on this from your padded cell and straight jacket, and a little cog will click in you head, “I get, I get it” then sadly the nurse will make take your medication and you will go back to Teletubbie land and start rocking back and forward and frothing at the mouth. Some here have suggested that perhaps you should fuck off, but we accept all types here so please stay and read on.
Bullshit Mikey!
There is a massive difference between making up scurrilous lies about opposition MP’s wives and exposing factual information regarding the malpractice and incompetence and genuine risks to national security caused by the home office failures.
For you to fail to see the difference shows how much of a brain dead twat you are. Why do you not fuck off to a blog where your bullshit is not seen through inside a second. Might I suggest that you post for the other brain-dead zombie supporters of labour list?
Your comment is libellous!
Damien Green didn’t pay anybody
Mike and Mikey, you are very welcome here. We have much to learn from the Common Purpose way of thinking.
only insofar as ‘know thine enemy’!
If you can’t tell the difference between the opposition getting access to public information that is being suppressed by a serving government, and the serving government wasting its time making up despicable personal smear stories about the opposition in the middle of an economic depression, then you are obviously not a person of intelligence.
I think Mikey is a double agent.
here mikey
Hugo
“Like Brown or not as a person, but he garners a margin of respect from most of the public as a leader, and someone who will act, with authority. When things go bad, he takes action.”
Respect !!! I’ve got more respect for something nasty on the bottom of my shoe, Authority !!! he runs away and hides at the slightest sign of trouble.
Action !!! The only action Brown has taken is to systematically f–k the country up for the past twelve years.
I missed the original of that one!I wonder which Asylum Hugo inhabits?
The difference being, Labour guys accept they are wrong, and stand down. Brown makes apologies.
Damian Greene caught trying to bribe home office officials, for gossip, to leak to the press. Cameron doesn’t even accept that there is anything wrong with this.
Why most of the general public have no trust whatsoever in the guy.
Brown has brazenly admitted on TV, while he was in opposition, leaking documents given to him bu a civil servant. He said this was done in the public interest. (I think it was Frank Bough he was speaking to).
Perhaps if he apologised for doing this and said it was wrong of him to have taken this attitude, it might place Cameron in a tricky situation
But hey..come on…let’s get realistic here….Brown apologise for something???????!!!!!!
Yes, where would he start? It’s a bloody long list and he would still be working his way through it when he gets booted out next year – or before.
DPP found no evidence to support your allegation. If you have such evidence, perhaps you should have passed it to Bob QUick. Otherwise, shut up.
“Damian Greene caught trying to bribe home office officials…”
Evidence?
Labour don’t need evidence to smear people.
Would this include Whelan, Watson, Brown, Balls, Campbell and Lord Mandelbum? Who is this “general public”?Damian Greene wasn’t caught trying to bribe Home Office officials; note the capital letters you moron.The DPP has cleared him of anything wrong.I repeat my advice given before: Fuck off back to Liebourlost, you Trolling halfwit.
I didn’t realise that bribery was involved. That makes the CPS decision harder to understand. What inducement was being offered to get the home office officials to diverge secrets?
None at all.
Please stop being a daft twat.
Your unsubstantiated smear is exactly what McBride was supposedly sacked for doing. Come to think of it… are you he?
“Damian Greene caught trying to bribe home office officials, for gossip, to leak to the press”
I think that might be actionable Mikey, I’d be a bit more circumspect if I were you.
Oh yes indeedy Mikey.
Thanks to your Stasi we now hold a full log of your IP address, email, postal code, colour of your hair and DNA swab in our database (presently on the 8.15 service to Watford). So why not sit down and have a little thinky before we send our off-balance-sheet private sector enforcers service round to take you away.
“The difference being, Labour guys accept they are wrong, and stand down. Brown makes apologies.”
Why is Ms Smith, the second home secretary still in a job then?
you really are a desperate used tampon aren’t you.
What Brown REALLY meant was:
“I am sorry that my entire general election strategy has been blown clean out of the water by Guido and the rest of the truthers in the blogosphere”
Is there a roster for Labour trolls to monitor this website? Yesterday “Kris Alienz” and today “Mikey”. The Three_Pride Stooges appear to be on holiday (probably teachers).
“Mikey” doesn’t seem to know the difference between leaks in the public interest (as in public spirited civil service whistleblowers exposing Jacqui Smith’s dodgy statistics and lies about illegal immigrants to HM Opposition who are charged with the duty of holding the [rotten] government to account) and smears (as in New Labour lies about the personal lives of Tory individuals for party political purposes)
Simples.
They probably have something similar to the Israeli lobby’s “Megaphone” software down in the bunker.
[...] To watch the lone Paul Staines, somewhere far off, serially ripping the pants off prime-members of t…, is uplifting: it confirms that Human nature is not ultimately sinful, since there are individuals who try to make a difference. [...]
Tories call for apology and Nadine now calls it spin which proves that Conman and Co are more interested in damaging GB than in receiving an apology as they claim. Whatever GB does is not enough for them because they just want to humiliate him. See there is no mention of all the tactics High Command at Tory office employ to damage the government. Wonder if Tories get it will this blog then be redundant?
According to the BBC a Tory spokesman said:
“It is good that Gordon Brown has apologised but he should have done it when this first emerged. And it still does not take away the fact that we want a proper examination into what has been going on at Downing Street.”
Nothing humiliating there, except what will be turned up if/when all the background to Red Rag and McBride come out. The Tories do not need to humiliate Brown – he does it all by himself.
bit difficult to damage the irreperable?
ask Tom what goes on in Little Italy
http://what-they-wont-tell-you.blogspot.com/
The question remains as to whether Damien McBride is still employed.
I must admit I thought of several honourable courses of action that were open to Gordon Brown after this fiasco, he had at least taken one of them by dismissing McBride. Now I’m not so sure.
I read on the BBC that Sir Gus O’Donnell claims that McBride was “no longer employed as a special adviser” and had “not received severance pay”.
That little word “as”…… why was it needed? Why not finish the sentence with the word “employed”?
Or do, as I suspect, the “as” and the words that follow betray the real reason why McBride has not received severance pay…..because his employment has not been severed?
One can only imagine in the sleazy world of no. 10 how much the PM must fear what someone like McBride could come out with if he wasn’t looked after accordingly!!!! Knowledge remains power….even if you seem to be knee deep in sewage!
DEf not sacked. Cant sack a civil servant like that. Takes months. They can move him office or give him gardening leave but thats all. They will of course be giving him full pay.
Sorry Sunday Morning
I would rather think that you CAN sack anybody who has so flagrantly flaunted the rules and used a business email address to pursue “personal” business, without fear of successful legal action.
The question is whether you have motives NOT to act accordingly?
Not at all. You could murder your granny and not get the push until after the conviction. If you got bail. Then they would suspend you until such date as you were convicted. Sorry again. Stringent rules within C>S and Police about sacking. Def cannot be done in a day. Hes still floating around Whitehall. Using back doors. He will turn up sooner or later, still a Civil Servant. My guess he will be moved sideways but still keep his grade. They do have options to demote or sack but only after a long drawn out procedure.
If they could sack you that easily then the C>S who helped Damien Green would have gone on the day he was discovered.
Watch this bit of video where mr draper denies he is in anyway connected to dereck draper
for comment and analysis please visit my blog
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just starting and wouldappreciate the support
Firstly I do not believe for one minute that the Demon and Dolly Draper have been given their marching orders.They are still there in some bunker plotting away.Dolly of course is now under investigation by his professional association.Who would consult him on anything?It takes ten years to become a professional psychotherapist.Some papers have even promoted him to be a psychoanalyst to the stars.Hahaha……….Shows what they know.This attention-seeking loudmouth scruffy hirsute nonentity is not fit to lick the boots of Jung and his mentor that sex-crazed weirdo Freud(who the British seem to revere).
The Demon will never give up on his master.Believe me his is still there.
Secondly Sir Gus is in the poo……Who would have thought this of an Old Salesian?
Thirdly ZanuLabour will win the next election.By postal voting fraud.They’ve already started in their selection processes.Look at the hag who is Cherie (what a big gob I’ve got)Blair’s latest stepmother.She’s just won the nomination for Calder Valley.It was a fair and democratic vote… NOT.
The Celts have had their day….From McNulty to McBride to Mc Broon to O’Donnell and to anybody else who hails from those parts.Their politics are poisonous.
I think the main issue which comes out of all of this is that we have an unelected Prime Minister, who got there through his Gauleiter Bully Boys creating sufficient fear to deter anyone from the Labour Party raising their head to oppose the Great Man. His position as PM is untenable. We should all be demanding an election now to return a legitimate government which can speak for us with credibility.
Is Gordon Brown the first ever prime minister with a state education?