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		<title>&#8216;Tis Only a Little Bug</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the Labour MP Sadiq Khan has done nothing wrong, he has nothing to fear. Isn&#8217;t that what the government and Sadiq told us about ID cards, CCTVing, finger-printing, phone-tapping, DNA swabbing, and database building? Too late to get all civil libertarian now they have come for him&#8230;<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=order-order.com&#038;blog=7515463&#038;post=3550&#038;subd=orderorder&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: justify;">If the Labour MP Sadiq Khan has done nothing wrong, he has nothing to fear.  Isn&#8217;t that what the government and <a href="http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/sadiq_khan/tooting">Sadiq told us</a> about ID cards, CCTVing, finger-printing, phone-tapping, DNA swabbing, and database building? <span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> Too late to get all civil libertarian now they have come for him&#8230;</span></div>
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		<title>Leaked NIS ID Cards Document</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2008/01/29/leaked-nis-id-cards-document/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guido has uploaded the entire document annotated by NO2ID. Some points of interest: 1) [Page 4, bullet point 3] Despite current assertions they are sticking with fingerprints, the strategy clearly includes options to gather personal information and issue ID cards WITHOUT fingerprints, e.g. &#8220;rising 16 year olds could be sent pre-populated forms for the Inclusion [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=order-order.com&#038;blog=7515463&#038;post=3529&#038;subd=orderorder&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.no2id.net/"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://orderorder.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/05264857cb4da3f062b00156027eced1_NO2ID_logo.png" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5117789079409387138" border="0" /></a>Guido has uploaded the <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/1953958/NIS-Options-Analysis-Outcome">entire document</a> annotated by <a href="http://www.no2id.net/">NO2ID</a>.</p>
<div style="text-align: justify;">Some points of interest:<br />
<blockquote><span style="font-size:85%;">1) [Page 4, bullet point 3] Despite current assertions they are sticking with fingerprints, the strategy clearly includes options to gather personal information and issue ID cards WITHOUT fingerprints, e.g.<span style="font-style: italic;"> &#8220;rising 16 year olds could be sent pre-populated forms for the Inclusion card&#8230; which would only need to be signed and returned&#8221;</span>.</p>
<p>2) [Page 4, bullet point 5] Indication that up to 10% of the population will be called in for <span style="font-style: italic;">&#8216;interrogation&#8217; </span>(ID interviews).</p>
<p>3) [Page 3, bullet point 1] Language suggests it will effectively be compulsory to *carry* the card &#8211; counter to Ministerial assertion.</p>
<p>4) [Page 5,'Next Steps', bullet point 1] Initial target groups (<span style="font-style: italic;">&#8220;trusted relationships&#8221;</span>) to be identified and confirmed by end of January 2008 &#8211; i.e. within the next 48 hours!</p>
<p>5) [Page 4, bullet point 6] They are explicitly pursuing a policy of<span style="font-style: italic;"> &#8220;coercion&#8221; </span>not compulsion because universal compulsion <span style="font-style: italic;">&#8220;cannot be delivered quickly due to the need for inevitably controversial and time consuming primary legislation and would pose serious political, enforcement and resource challenges.&#8221;</span></span></p></blockquote>
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		<title>No2ID to Advocate No2Labour Tactical Voting</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Word reaches Guido that at a meeting scheduled for next Tuesday the leaders of the NO2ID campaign are likely to decide on an election strategy advocating tactical voting to oust MPs who support ID cards at the election. The message is simple; if you want to get rid of ID cards, vote against those who [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=order-order.com&#038;blog=7515463&#038;post=3152&#038;subd=orderorder&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: justify;"><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.no2id.net/"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://orderorder.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/05264857cb4da3f062b00156027eced1_NO2ID_logo.png" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5117789079409387138" border="0" /></a>Word reaches Guido that at a meeting scheduled for next Tuesday the leaders of the <a href="http://www.no2id.net/">NO2ID  campaign</a> are likely to decide on an election strategy advocating tactical voting to oust MPs who support ID cards at the election.
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<p>The message is simple; if you want to get rid of ID cards, vote against those who voted for them.  Two examples where this strategy might work to devastating effect are Tooting and Islington South:<br /><span style="font-size:85%;"><br />
<blockquote>In <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islington_South_and_Finsbury_%28UK_Parliament_constituency%29">Islington South</a> the Tories came a distant third, but the LibDem was less than 400 votes behind left-wing Labour MP Emily Thornberry.  Tories should vote for the LibDem and enjoy getting rid of the ID card loving, CND supporting MP.</p>
<p>In <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadiq_Khan">Tooting</a> the LibDems were nearly 10,000 votes behind Labour Sadiq Khan, if they switched votes to the second-placed Tory candidate they would be getting rid of an authoritarian Labour MP who voted strongly for introducing national ID cards, strongly for Labour&#8217;s anti-terrorism laws and very strongly against investigating the Iraq war.</p></blockquote>
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<p>As things stand the third placed party has no hope, the result of widespread tactical voting would be less MPs to push through ID cards <span style="font-style: italic;">and</span> guaranteed LibDem and Tory gains.  Across the country tactical voting would further slash Labour&#8217;s majority.  The logic is clear, where a LibDem or Tory is in a distant third place, vote for the candidate most likely to unseat the ID card supporter.  Guido doesn&#8217;t think it impossible we could see Nick Clegg and David Davis on the same anti-ID cards platform.</p>
<p><span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Of course fear of tactical voting could result in Gordon Brown dropping ID cards altogether before the election &#8211; which would be huge a victory for the NO2ID campaign&#8230;</span></div>
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		<title>Time for Tactical Decisions from CCHQ and Cowley Street</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The LibDems are getting pummelled in the polls &#8211; this morning a YouGov poll has them down another 3% to 13% with the Tories unchanged on 33%. Guido finds it hard to believe the accuracy of this poll &#8211; with Labour at 44% that makes them more popular than in 1997 when they scored 43%. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=order-order.com&#038;blog=7515463&#038;post=3121&#038;subd=orderorder&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: justify;"><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://conservativehome.blogs.com/torydiary/2007/09/labour-11-ahead.html"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://orderorder.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/af1b7866a4fd629595ed44c84a002750_yougov.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5114448664299955538" border="0" /></a>The LibDems are getting pummelled in the polls &#8211; this morning a <a href="http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/domestic_politics/poll+shows+11+point+labour+lead/844847">YouGov</a> poll has them down another 3% to 13% with the Tories unchanged on 33%.  Guido finds it hard to believe the accuracy of this poll &#8211; with Labour at 44% that makes them more popular than in 1997 when they scored 43%.  <span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Not very likely is it?</span></div>
<div style="text-align: justify;">A hung parliament is still the most likely outcome of the next election whatever the polls currently say. The only way to ensure that outcome is to take seats off Labour, swapping Tory and LibDem seats will not change the government.</p>
<p>Is it time for them to consider tactical voting?  Mike Smithson over at <a href="http://www.politicalbetting.com/">PoliticalBetting.com</a> has made the case for this before, if you want to get rid of this government, vote for the party best placed to beat New Labour in your constituency.  In Scotland that seems to have happened already, the business community has switched from the no-hope Tories to the SNP.  In return the SNP has begun to talk more about<span style="font-style: italic;"> &#8220;Enterprise Scotland&#8221;</span> and is now polling even stronger than during the recent local elections.</p>
<p>The problem is that LibDem and Tory activists hate each other.  They would not countenance any explicit instruction to vote for the other party.  Often at each others neck in local government, the idea of a non-aggression pact is unpalatable.  Rather than going into any protracted negotiations the Tories should just direct resources away from LibDem incumbents and into the battle in Labour seats.  The LibDems political antennae would detect the shift, they would consequently be able to shift their more limited resources away from defending LibDem seats against Tory insurgents and towards attacking Labour incumbents.</div>
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<div style="text-align: justify;">Encouraging Tories and LibDems to work together is not easy, but there is one issue that is heartfelt by LibDems and Tories in their libertarian hearts &#8211; ID cards.    Pushing ID cards up the political agenda would place Tories and LibDems on the same side of the barricades against an authoritarian government.  Psychologically a useful pre-cursor to a post-election deal.  If Tory and LibDem activists worked together on the <a href="http://www.no2id.net/">NO 2 ID</a> campaign they might even find their rivals more likeable.  As Brown begins to sound more and more authoritarian, emphasising <span style="font-style: italic;">&#8220;Strength&#8221;, &#8220;Britain&#8221;</span> and <span style="font-style: italic;">&#8220;British jobs for British workers&#8221;</span> the Liberal Democrats may realise they have a lot more in common  with Cameron&#8217;s liberal Conservatives than with Brown&#8217;s ideology of state power. <span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> Ming may lean towards Brown, but the next LibDem leader is less likely to do so&#8230;</span></div>
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		<title>Self-Important-Shit-of-an-MP Sues</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2007/06/12/self-important-shit-of-mp-sues/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Martyn Jones is widely regarded in the Palace of Westminster, by the few people who actually know who he is, as a bit of a self-important prat in a building full of self-important prats. He is suing the Mail on Sunday&#8217;s Simon Walters for libel on the grounds that an article exaggerated an incident in [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=order-order.com&#038;blog=7515463&#038;post=2849&#038;subd=orderorder&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: justify;"><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EQc_hLHXONE/Rm5twBQnECI/AAAAAAAAAl0/lp9c7c_Trbg/s1600-h/martyn_jones.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://orderorder.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/dacaa44a5dc22192540856fbfe3d317b_martyn_jones.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5075114501832380450" border="0" /></a>Martyn Jones is widely regarded in the Palace of Westminster, by the few people who actually know who he is, as a bit of a self-important prat in a building full of self-important prats.  He is suing the <span style="font-style: italic;">Mail on Sunday&#8217;s </span>Simon Walters for libel on the grounds that an article exaggerated an incident in a report with the headline <span style="font-style: italic;">&#8220;Labour MP in foul-mouthed outburst&#8221;</span>.</p>
<p>Before entering parliament Martyn Jones worked in a brewery and in a 20-year backbench career since he has hardly risen to the heights of recognition.  Yet when a Portcullis House security guard asked him to show his ID card he went into a full blown <span style="font-style: italic;">&#8220;do-you-know-who-I-am&#8221;</span> routine and told the guard, who was only doing his job, that <span style="font-style: italic;">&#8220;I don&#8217;t give a shit what you are. You should know who members of Parliament are.&#8221;</span></p>
<p>Giving evidence in court Jones claimed that only about 10% of MPs wore their passes and it was better for security to identify MPs by their faces.  <span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Is that true, do only 60 or so MPs wear their passes?  How is it better for security not to wear a pass?</span></div>
<p><span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">UPDATE : </span>On a scale of 0 -100%, the <a href="http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpn=Martyn_Jones&amp;mpc=Clwyd+South">Public Whip</a> rates his opposition to ID cards at 0%.
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		<title>Bad News Burial Attempted</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 12:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nick Clegg has pounced on the announcement that ID cards will cost hundreds of millions more than budgeted. The announcement was held back until today for some reason&#8230;<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=order-order.com&#038;blog=7515463&#038;post=2752&#038;subd=orderorder&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<div style="text-align: justify;">Nick Clegg has pounced on the announcement that ID cards will cost hundreds of millions more than budgeted.  <span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">The announcement was held back until today for some reason&#8230;</span></div>
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		<title>Liberal Conservative and Liberal DemocratCampaigns Against ID-Cards</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Tory anti-ID cards campaign (top) to be launched this morning emphasises the practical alternative uses for the money that would be wasted on ID cards, as well as Gordon&#8217;s support for them. The current LibDem campaign (below) emphasises the negative effect on liberty. The Tories now say the plan is a &#8220;BAD IDEA&#8221;. The [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=order-order.com&#038;blog=7515463&#038;post=2466&#038;subd=orderorder&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: justify;">The Tory anti-ID cards campaign (top) to be launched this morning emphasises the practical alternative uses for the money that would be wasted on ID cards, as well as Gordon&#8217;s support for them.  The current LibDem campaign (below) emphasises the negative effect on liberty.  The Tories now say the plan is a <span style="font-style: italic;">&#8220;BAD </span><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">ID</span><span style="font-style: italic;">EA&#8221;</span>.    <span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">The LibDems have always said it was a bad idea.</span></div>
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">UPDATE : </span>The ConservativeHome <a href="http://conservativehome.blogs.com/torydiary/files/pdf.pdf">poll results</a> regarding dealing with the LibDems show that it is now being openly discussed by the Tory grassroots.</div>
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		<title>DD Says &quot;NO2ID&quot;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Davis has written to the Cabinet Secretary, Sir Gus O&#8217;Donnell, giving formal notice that an incoming Conservative administration will scrap ID Cards. He has also written to all the major contractors* warning them of the same. Guido said, at the time Basher negotiated the delay in the political decision-making watershed on ID-cards until after [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=order-order.com&#038;blog=7515463&#038;post=2465&#038;subd=orderorder&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: justify;">David Davis has written to the Cabinet Secretary, <a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.no2id.net"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://orderorder.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/e333feb59a297ee610117c2b489e90fd_NO2ID_logo.png" title="Click to go to NO2ID" border="0" /></a>Sir Gus O&#8217;Donnell, giving formal notice that an incoming Conservative administration will scrap ID Cards.  He has also written to all the major contractors* warning them of the same.</div>
<div style="text-align: justify;">Guido said, at the time Basher negotiated the delay in the political decision-making watershed on ID-cards until after the election, that is was clever tactics.  ID-cards may be popular in some quarters, but one section of the population is 101% opposed to ID-cards.  <span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">LibDem activists.</span></p>
<p>Come election time the LibDems will be <span style="font-style: italic;">shoulder-to-shoulder</span> with the Tories on an issue that emphasises their shared ideological belief in the  fundamental primacy of individual liberty against state power.  <span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">New Labour&#8217;s authoritarians will be the common enemy.</span></div>
<p><span style="font-size:85%;">*So all those donations to the Sith will have been wasted.</span>
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