September 26th, 2014

Farage Confirms UKIP is Turning Left

Who said it: Ed Miliband or Nigel Farage? Speaking to Guido this afternoon about his new super tax on luxury goods, the UKIP leader confirmed the party is making a significant shift to the left:

The country’s got a big, big problem and in the course of the last decade the ‘rich’ have got remarkably richer. I think Patrick is taking us in a slightly different direction and I think that is a recognition and a realisation that for millions of people life is a lot worse now that it was ten years ago. Coming out of this conference this morning for a couple of hours and going down to the factory and meeting all the men and women working that they are a lot worse off than they were.

Vote Purple, go red.


166 Comments

  1. 1

    Maybe he’s doing a lib dem?

    A more lefty than labour up North.
    A lot more Tory than Dave’s Tories down South.

  2. 2
    Rupert Murdoch says:

    Oh another shilling for Geeeeeedo!

  3. 3
    Mr Murdoch says:

    Another shilling for Geeeedo!

  4. 4
    Rupert Murdoch says:

    Oh this is good stuff Gheedough. I think I’ve just come.

  5. 5
    One born every minute says:

    So 524 MPs vote for war, I hope they will be the first group to be send out to fight, they can pick up the A K4 7s from the dead ISIS after the Yanks have flown by.

  6. 6
    Ed Moribund says:

    My mate Colin thinks thinks UKIP are a bunch of nutters!
    Which is funny because Colin is a bit of a nutter himself..like this one time he was squeezing a bottle of water. He was holding it in front of his knob, like he was having a piss..and he was doing it so this girl could see, and she was near a policeman..And sure enough she told the police guy..and ..heheh..and…he came over and said “Excuse me?” and Colin, right..he just said “What? ..I was tipping this water out!”

    It was well funny and the policeperson was like ‘wot can I say’ so he just went away and me and Colin laughed and laughed and then we went to Weatherspoons for some pints of different types of beer.

  7. 7
    Wendi Deng says:

    yoo ord foow. Gunk on my face is from meester tonee. He rove me rong time

  8. 8
    Quote Of The Day says:

    “The border between Syria and Iraq has virtually disappeared. It is a sea of human misery.”

  9. 9
    Montrose says:

    His supporters are “doing a Lib Dem” as well: pretending that everything could be solved by a party that they know (or hope) will never be elected.

  10. 10
    JH93409832093024 says:

    There is of course the option that the government should spend within its fucking means, like everyone else has to sooner or later.

    The idea that we should be punished for working hard, then punished again for having the chutzpah to enjoy the proceeds, with the loot in both cases being handed to chippy little arseholes in public sector mcjobs to spend inefficiently is sickening.

  11. 11
    Anonymous says:

    It is to get the disaffected Labour votes. Innit?

  12. 12
    Colin says:

    I met Ed Millibrain, and now I’m dead.

    David Kelly and Robin Cook say there are a few of us up here because it wasn’t convenient for the world to hear our side of the story.

  13. 13
    Colin says:

    I met Ed Millibrain, and now I’m dead.

    D@vid Ke11y and Robin C00k say there are a few of us up here because it wasn’t convenient for the world to hear our side of the story.

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    Winston says:

    Fact: in the last decade the wealthy have got richer. The issue is how do you encourage the poor to better themselves. Do you fill the country with cheap labour from across the World or do you restrict immigration and invest in education?

    So F**k off Guido, you Tory stooge.

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    nell says:

    But then I suppose he’s trying to influence northern voters who are leftwing. It’s called crafting the message to the perceived audience.

  17. 17
    Colin says:

    Each extra vote adds to the credibility of the kippers for future elections.

    A bigger worry is that by the time they are elected sometime in the future, they will have started to collect the power-following career scumbags

  18. 18
    One born every minute says:

    Thanks mr G for all this PR, vote UKIP and stick a finger up to the LibLabCon merchants.

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    the mystical mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

    for somebody who is supposed to be a social warrior, exposing the bollocks and the thievery that is going on at the Parliament, it doesn’t really sit well with this constant stream of disinformation about UKIP that this blog is putting out recently. I have to say I am surprised and a bit concerned.

  20. 20

    They’re on the attack. Which is good:

    h**p://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/514860/Labour-attacks-Ukip-Manchester-by-election

    Nigel could yet become the honey badger of UK politics.

    Need L’aurie P’enny to have that light switched on moment.

    Lots of votes available from the libertarian left, and the left are well and truly fractured at present.

    Vote UKIP :-D

  21. 21
    Schrodinger's clit says:

    Also known as trying to pull the wool over their eyes.

  22. 22
    Montrose says:

    If you craft a message that misrepresents what you would actually do in government, for the convenience of picking up votes, you are indulging in the same form of lying used by all politicians, and Lib Dems in particular.

  23. 23
    Owen"Boots on the ground now" Jones says:

    Labour’s Rushanara Ali resigns from front bench in protest at decision to vote for military action…… Hurrah !

  24. 24
    Soviet Space Sex Gekko says:

    Any political party that uses a currency symbol as its logo says all you really need to know about it.

    Lead by a man who likes a fag and a pint, appealing to would be Alf Garnetts up and down the country.

    Can’t wait to see the full manifesto, something for everyone (excluding immigrants). Which will beg the question kippers need to ask themselves. If it’s to good to be true, then it is a falsehood

  25. 25
    Moley says:

    Japan is having an economic panic because they raised their sales tax from 5% to 8%, if they had to pay our VAT of 20% the Japanese economy would die of shock.

    Taxing the rich does not make the poor richer, it makes everyone poorer. I would have thought that UKIP had the sense to understand that.

    Governments use high prices to discourage things, they will kill the economy as surely as Hollande is killing France.

  26. 26
    Ed Moribund says:

    I miss you every day, Connor.
    I’ll never forget you.

  27. 27
    ukip.i.am.not says:

    Doncaster racecourse eh? … “They’re off, and in the lead it’s Nigel The Nutter, from Missing Manifesto, I’m No Racist, Promises Promises, Tories In Disguise, and at the rear it’s My Mate Rupert. They’re going round the first bend, no change there then – they’ve been going round the bend for a while this lot. Still three miles to go in the Fantasy Politics Novice Chase …”

  28. 28
    non taxable pikey says:

    One less, don’t let the door, well you know the rest.

  29. 29
    ukip.i.am.not says:

    Thanks mr G for all this PR, vote INDEPENDENT and stick a finger up to the LibLabCon merchants.

  30. 30
    Mornington Crescent says:

    So, Mister Slippery has got his war. Yippee! Iraq (again), Syria and probably a couple of others.

    Yet he does nothing to round up the filth and their families in this country.

    Truly the Heir to Blair.

    Not in my name.

  31. 31
    The Hanging Judge says:

    Interesting – so how are they going to sell Carswell the ultra-Thatcherite to the new socialist masses?

    If the media weren’t so intent on digging up a few nobodies’ racist twitter posts, they could have a field day with the fact that UKIP has become an incoherent alliance between Old Labour and the libertarian right.

    A frightening thought: the combination of an almost entirely left wing voter base and a considerably more market liberal parliamentary party makes UKIP the new Lib Dems!

  32. 32
    Mornington Crescent says:

    Sorry, poppet. Tone’s a gay icon now.

  33. 33
    the mystical mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

    I don’t mind people buying expensive things and would encourage people to spend their money as long as those things are made in the UK so that we get the benefit of the skills, education and R&D.

  34. 34

    It is quite ironic, that Labour the alleged ‘Party of Change’ are quite so adverse to UKIP.

    Vote UKIP :-D

  35. 35
    Tigerowl says:

    Nigel Farage. Liar, liar, liar. Say it and hope some believe it. Rich man preaching to the working class. Like his party, got nothing to offer other than division and hate. And the Tories do that as a matter of course.
    Any working person who votes for a party that will reduce their working rights and give tax cuts to the richest deserves contempt.

  36. 36
    Anonymous says:

    They’ve been tacking left for a long time. Carswell joined the wrong party.

  37. 37
    UKBA Not Fit For Any Purpose says:

    A step in the right direction:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29376335

    Then get rid of that God awful UK Border agency with it’s 99% foreign, white middle class hating, foreign criminal loving operatives, would be a great second step.

    Oh, a Latvian murderer with previous, step right this way!

  38. 38
    François Hollande says:

    hey hey hey…We are all doing fine and I am the most popular President France has ever had.

    You know why? They look at me . Ridiculous. Pathetic. Nerdy, tubby, bald, stupid,smelly and see that i was banging that hot blonde actress and
    even the fattest, ugliest, dungboot potato farmer from the regions thinks

    “Fucking Hell! If that useless minger can be poking a foxy babe like that, then…i must be in with a chance too?”

    Ed Miliband is secretly doing that Mary Beard.! Once that breaks Englishmen will be envious beyond belief.

  39. 39
    Aubrey Bailey says:

    Are you confused by what is going on in the Middle-East?

    Let me explain. We support the Iraqi gov’t in it’s fight against Islamic State (IS/ISIL/ISIS). We don’t like IS but IS is supported by Saudi Arabia whom we do like. We don’t like President Assad in Syria. We support the fight against him, but not IS, which is also fighting against him.

    We don’t like Iran, but the Iranian government supports the Iraqi gov’t against IS. So, some of our friends support our enemies and some of our enemies are our friends, and some of our enemies are fighting our other enemies, whom we don’t want to lose, but we don’t our enemies who are fighting our enemies to win.

    Takes deep breath…..

    If the people we want to defeat are defeated, they might be replaced by people we like even less. And, all this was started by us invading a country to drive out terrorists who weren’t actually there until we went in to drive them out – do you understand now?

  40. 40
    Voetsek says:

    I am a part time £6.57 a hour wage slave and all the your better off working well my local council take 65p in every pound rent then same for local gov tax
    Just don’t be poor and white English all the local Mossies’ have a good fiddle all family’s have different names and work and claim most have restaurant’s

    White and Fecked

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  42. 42
    The real world since WW2 ended says:

    great – I’d like a pair of slippers please. Like the ones that a store can buy from China, pay to ship them around the world. Pay import duty on them. Pay 20% VAT on them. Then sell them to me for £3 and STILL be making a £1 profit on them.

    Once you can do that UK, We’ll be lining up to buy them.

  43. 43
    Truth will out says:

    If you think UKIP are being less truthful than the other three parties then you are in need of medication.

  44. 44
    F##k the LibLabCon says:

    I think so… they haven’t a fucking clue what they’re doing?

  45. 45
    Cherry Picking Season says:

    It is to try & soak up those disaffected Labour votes.

  46. 46
    Fred says:

    It’s not new, we had higher VAT rates on luxury goods during the 1970s.

    Actually much fairer than a Mansion Tax. You don’t have to buy luxury goods, you can choose not to, but you do need somewhere to live.

  47. 47
    IS Recruiting Dept (Westminster Branch) says:

    Iraq and Syria as countries have both virtually disappeared.

  48. 48
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    And here comes the Prime Mentalist on the outside saying “It’s no time for a novice”

    Wibble :-)

  49. 49
    Blind Pugh says:

    I voted UKIP in the recent European and local elections ,but I will not
    in the future because of Nigel Farage,s stance on bombing the ISIS.
    in Iraq .How can anybody who sees the suffering that they have caused
    not support bombing them?

  50. 50
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    Well it’s worked for Liebore all these years :-)

  51. 51
    Anonymous says:

    JUST VOTE UKIP

    AND GET UKIP

    VOTE LIBLABCON GET:-

    A UNITED STATES OF EUROPE WITHOUT A VOTE
    CONTINUED UNFETTERED MASS IMMIGRATION FROM EVERYWHERE. THIS STRANS OUR SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, HOUSING AND GP SERVICES AND WHY THE WHITE WORKING CLASS SUFFERS BADLY!

  52. 52
    Oh, says:

    just when you thought UKIP might actually be different to other parties here they are pandering to everyone.

  53. 53
    Nigel Farage says:

    So here is the UKIP Manifesto:

    We will re-nationalise the railways
    We will re-nationalise the utility companies
    We will fully fund the NHS and reverse the Health & Social Care Act
    We will repeal the Bedroom Tax
    We will make zero-hours contracts illegal
    We will clamp down on rents and unscrupulous landlords
    We will reduce the size of the House of Lords
    We will remove charitable status from private schools

    Fucking hell, this beer is strong…

  54. 54
    Sly News says:

    Gweeedo we are running another anti kipper story in 10 minutes so get ready and jump on board, we’ll give you the nod as soon as Rupert gives us ours.

  55. 55
    U2 says:

    To be fair, you don’t have to buy a £2,000,000 house either.

  56. 56
    Snake Oil Dave says:

    Calm down dear you’ll do yourself a mischief.

  57. 57
    Here we go again says:

    A man who had sex with an underage girl has been jailed for 12 years. Mohammed Abbas, 30, groomed the girl when she was 12 years old and took her to a park where he tried to have sex with her. He would drive her around in his black BMW and take her to houses for sex. She would often not return home for several days. The offences came to light as part of Operation Erle, a proactive inquiry by Cambridgeshire Constabulary and Peterborough City Council into child sexual exploitation. He will be deported after his sentence.

  58. 58
    Bantu says:

    UKIP supported a flat tax once. Sounds great to the middle class and an improvement over the massively regressive tax system we have at the moment for the working class

  59. 59
    Brummie says:

    P*SS orf Guido – another crapster anti-u.kip story…. go back home.

  60. 60
    Anonymous says:

    Vote purple, get purple.

    vote labour get liberal
    vote tory get liberal
    vote liberal, get fuc ked!

  61. 61
    Theophrastus says:

    VOTE UKIP, GET LABOUR!

  62. 62
    Moussa Koussa says:

    The EU gives workers all kinds of rights and protections – minimum number of holidays, restricts overtime, redundancy protection, maternity leave, health and safety etc. Not to mention that UKIP have previously supported scrapping maternity leave and sacking 2 million public sector workers.

    Represent working people my arse. They support businesses and corporations. Even Thatcher wasn’t as bad as UKIP.

  63. 63

    Bombing them indiscriminately is an act of terror.

    If there is a plan for what to do in terms of rebuilding after the bombing that is a different matter. Otherwise making the same mistakes there that really go back to when C’hurchill first ordered bombing in order to keep the region calm.

    Nigel has raised an important point: Most importantly that there is not a military solution to IS – and curiously – IS do not post much of a direct threat to any UK interests.

    Vote UKIP :-D

  64. 64
    Resident of Islamabrum says:

    “working rights”.. wank wank wank. Employers are navigating round the surge in worker rights by, err, not employing people but, rather, engaging workers on short-term and zero-hours contracts with little if any security and guess what.. no fucking pensions.

  65. 65
    David Cameron says:

    I am channeling Winston…

  66. 66
    Reader says:

    His supporters want to vote UKIP to try to break the power of the utter fuckwits in the three main Westminster parties. And to get us out of Europe.

    They are right to think like that.

  67. 67
    the mystical mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

    When I was in Dublin in the 70s it really was the most excellent place to be. The Irish had an innate understanding of drinking and created a society that revolved about drinking and friendliness on an island where the nature was really untouched because there was no need to mess with it. There may have been some americans there because they loved the rebels but mostly I felt like I was the only foreigner. It was a bit like being in the mafia without getting “made” or whatever that is.
    The point I am trying to make is that the society was easy to understand ( after you twigged you were in a foreign country ) and therefore there was a cohesion.
    moving that over to the UK now as a picture we are so fucked up in all possible ways of measuring fuckedupness. The strength has gone because there is not the cohesion. In my opinion this is due to the importation of too many foreign souls and the left wing bullshit apologists that went to teacher training college in the 60s.
    I don’t think that this society is going to work.
    The Muslims think that they are a special case and want to take over and all the other fuckers want to screw us.
    happy days

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  69. 69
    Jack Russell says:

    (up the wrongun).

  70. 70
    Jack Russell says:

    Is he bl@ck?

  71. 71
    Lord Haw Haw says:

    Murdoch chose wisely. Get an Irishman to spill the bile he needs to try and break Britain further and flood it with immigrants.

    What’s it like being pawn, Guido?

  72. 72
    D L George says:

    Interesting points.
    All people on benefits should be fingerprinted and given photo ID cards. Photo ID and electronic fingerprints checked every day they sign on. Should be cheap enough, central database and fingerprint check machinery is cheap as chips these days.

    Would slash benefit fraud.
    There’s an awful lot of money to be saved, don’t expect Tories, Labour or the Libdems to wave so much as a damp hanky in its general direction though.

  73. 73
    The British Economy says:

    Just 2 million public sector workers?

    I am disappointed. We could do with getting rid of at least 500,000 fewer than that.

  74. 74
    Mongo the hideous says:

    Buying ostentatious overpriced crap does not require “chutzpah”. Just stupidity.

  75. 75
    Do the Math says:

    Nationalism + Socialism =

  76. 76
    Hong Icke says:

    There must be something in the water in Doncaster. Maybe extra fluoridation?

  77. 77
    D L George says:

    “Not to mention that UKIP have previously supported scrapping maternity leave and sacking 2 million public sector workers”

    You’re right, sacking 2 million public sector workers isn’t nearly enough. UKIP are definitely showing a left leaning streak.

  78. 78
    the mystical mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

    you may have noticed and chosen to ignore that I mentioned expensive items

  79. 79
    The British Economy says:

    You may well need to when nearly everywhere costs £2m+ to buy: it could easily be the situation in large areas of London within the life of Miliband’s 10 year plan.

  80. 80
    D L George says:

    = 50% better than we have now?

  81. 81
    Just asking says:

    Dear Mr Cameron,

    Isr@el has murdered more people in Gaza than IS have in Syria or Iraq.

    At what point will you begin bombing Isr@el?

  82. 82
    Anonymous says:

    Look we just want to sort out the poofs, ting tongs and what not. What’s wrong with that?

  83. 83
    The Doncaster Disaster says:

    Hilarious to see the anti-Guido messages on here.

    Seems some Ukippers are going into cognitive dissonance meltdown. They’re lashing out and shooting the messenger.

  84. 84
    Lizardperson says:

    Sssh. Don’t tell them

  85. 85
    idon'tneednodoctor says:

    Tony Blair has so much to answer for, as have the labour governments in the 70’s. Socialists just have the knack of screwing the country into the ground, and then they have the nerve to deny it.
    As for UKIP, they just do not add up, literally. Farage has the benefit of hindsight, and is milking it for all he is worth.
    Interesting times, and yes we do need changes in our political set up. Time will tell.

  86. 86
    Arrogance spotter says:

    The Kippers don’t like it up em. Same attitude as the socialists.

  87. 87
    NeverRed says:

    Perhaps they will be cheering and proud of resumption of bombing Iraq when an RAF pilot is videoed being beheaded after suffering an aircraft malfunction!
    Or it could be one of the army spotters ‘painting’ targets for the laser guided missiles!

    Please let UKIP wipe the floor with the Westminster scum in the GE next year.

    Wake up people, nothing will change unless you get off your backside and vote the Tories, Labour and LibDems out of their cushy little taxpayer funded luxury lives.

  88. 88
    I can see the truth, why can't you says:

    Go tell Tony Blair.

  89. 89
    the mystical mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

    I do not understand why you do not embrace UKIP. Look let me share a bit of wisdom with you ?
    you have to look at things in the right time context.

  90. 90
    Hear All See All says:

    As EU states – Nigel Farage seeks a more reasoned approach than just lobbing bombs down without extensive plans and the involvement of LOCAL forces trained and onboard.

  91. 91
    Bantu says:

    Should shoot 100 random members of his community in public -

  92. 92

    Just contrast Nigel Farage’s speech with the spluttering ,spitting , incoherent cretin Milliband , then cast your mind back a few weeks to the Rotherham child abuse scandal and then ask yourself why UKIP are taking votes from Labour .

  93. 93
    England says:

    guido’s really going downhill fast alienating his own readers with the disparate UKIP bashing; taken the establishment shilling obviously.

  94. 94
    jgm2 says:

    and sacking 2 million public sector workers

    I was wavering in my support until I read that.

    A good start. A little straw shows the way the wind blows.

    UKIP it is.

  95. 95
    Frank's son says:

    One of those who grew richer (and fatter) and became part of the establishment? Why, Guido himself. Tells you all you need to know.

  96. 96
    Frank's son says:

    Indeed! Including those who claim child benefit too! Afterall, a benefit is a benefit, right?

  97. 97
    Jimmy says:

    Nationalism and socialism?

    What could possibly go wrong?

  98. 98
    Back1woodsman says:

    Things I forgot to mention, economy, immigration, muzzie molestation. Ooops !

  99. 99
    Anonymous says:

    Well then, you’ve several months to get used to it

  100. 100
    Posterior elevation seriously impairs one's ability to be truthful says:

    Typ[ical Goebells-type big lie from the Muz jihad supporters: goes with their ‘der Sturmer’ style of their political cartoons.

  101. 101
    Back1woodsman says:

    Unfortunately so.

  102. 102
    Sungei Patani says:

    Eubbish!

  103. 103
    Anonymous says:

    well blame cameron then. he fucked off all the real tory voters!

  104. 104
    Jim says:

    Agreed.

  105. 105
    Jim says:

    When buying Chinese you need to think of H&S because they don’t.

  106. 106
    jimmy's brane sel says:

    You should know, you voted for Blair.

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    or are they? says:

    I expect the sons of Tony Blair, Jack Straw and Harriet Harman are already signing up as we write.

  108. 108
    Jim says:

    Afraid you are still living in the dark ages. People have had enough of divide and rule. UKIP are fighting to stand as an option and with no English representation against the Scots I wish them well as, I am sure do the Scottish people. They hate an unreasonable negotiation as much as the English.

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    let's be frank says:

    it’s a sea of moslem misery

  110. 110
    Wakey Wakey says:

    VAT was originally a tax on luxury goods.

    Now it’s a tax on food, fuel and clothing.

  111. 111
    twat.you.are says:

    Iraq
    Rotherham

    two words to make any fuckwit Labour shut the fuck up

  112. 112
    interlektewel says:

    and if you don’t, you aren’t.

  113. 113
    Phil O'Sofa says:

    When it comes to war, you soon find out who is really British and who is merely “British”.

  114. 114
    PURVEYOR says:

    Amazingly good policy. Its really showing that you don’t need to be a toff to be a conservative.

    Come on UKIP.

  115. 115
    PURVEYOR says:

    you’ve shit yourself

  116. 116
    Dave "PR Boy" Cameron says:

    Yes you are quite right Tarquin, the logo is the most important thing.

  117. 117
    Mystic Smeg says:

    It doesn’t matter – if UKIP get the UK out of the EU then they can retire happy.
    By then the tories might have found themselves a tory leader, and Labour might have been bought out by the unions.

  118. 118
    Owltiger says:

    You twat.

    You have got so used to peddling lies that you have some to believe it yourself.

    UKIP do not preach hate about anyone or anything.

  119. 119
    PURVEYOR says:

    labour have never been weaker than they are now. they have voted for another war in Iraq. they have the worst leader in the history of the western world. they are responsible for Rotherham, Trojan horse, high energy prices, the deficit.

    ukip will eat labour alive.

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    UKIP meltdown says:

    Ukip are led by a city stockbroker who now wants to tax people who buy fancy goods. You couldn’t make it up!

    “leave the eu to enjoy higher and more complicated taxes”, what a message!!!!!!!!!!!!

    These cronies will say anything for a vote. Naked populism! Bunch of plonkers.

  121. 121
    PURVEYOR says:

    they just don’t want to offend Obama. again…

  122. 122
    Anonymous says:

    They are! For safe Labour seats

  123. 123
    PURVEYOR says:

    a perfect outcome from the bombing would be a shortage of laser guided paveway bombs mean the raf had to use clusters.

  124. 124
    PURVEYOR says:

    Muslims + Hatchets =

  125. 125
    PURVEYOR says:

    we only going to bomb Iraq for the collateral damage.

  126. 126
    Foxes in the car park says:

    Vote purple go red.

    A wasted journey.
    atleast it was an outing.

    In other news that you can use, my wall paper has been painted over. give your head on a platter to another before jihadi john arrives . Eta 1.1.2015.

    Love the fox.

  127. 127
    PURVEYOR says:

    better a stockbroker than a SpAd

  128. 128
    Sir Roger de Senseless says:

    Because it will cost a lot of money, kill a lot of people and accomplish absolutely nothing.

  129. 129
    Sir Roger de Senseless says:

    I’ve never voted Labour in my life, but I still think not paying income tax if you are on minimum wage is a good idea. They will still pay N.I., Council Tax and a disproportionate amount of V.A.T. They are already up against it and often doing valuable – though not highly remunerative – work; taxing them less will help to make work pay. Plus Farage is against this latest bombing folly in the Middle East. A super-tax on luxury goods looks a bit gimmicky, but I’ve voted U.K.I.P. before, and unless they come out with something unbelievably stupid, I will be happy to do so again.

  130. 130
    What a wanker says:

    Luxury Tax? How very Harold Wilson. Back to the sixties with Farage.

  131. 131
    Randayn says:

    well ok – who is john galt?

  132. 132
    Randayn says:

    how much for a tractor – or is that in the five year plan?

  133. 133
    Surrounded by Them says:

    and back to brussels with cameroon and millibande

  134. 134
    Montrose says:

    No, most people don’t want that retarded shit.

  135. 135
    Montrose says:

    He has readers beyond the old, wrinkly, shrill, mentalist Ukip fraternity.

  136. 136
    Montrose says:

    That’d be most of it, then.

  137. 137

    No you are not fecked you are FUCKED learn to spell!

  138. 138

    Just why the fuck should anyone get maternity leave , if you want children pay for them .

  139. 139

    So ,the Irish had an innate understanding of drinking , pity they don’t have an innate understanding of paying for it , rather than relying bail outs !

  140. 140

    A pity they don’t have an innate understanding of how to pay for it, instead of relying on bail outs.

  141. 141
    Anonymous says:

    Carswell must feel a right berk.

  142. 142

    “human”?

    I don’t expect someone else to come round and clean my house. Nor should we be buggerising round cleaning other people’s.

    When the rape of white children by local enrichers stops, then maybe start sending sorters out overseas. But not until.

  143. 143
    Douglas says:

    “for millions of people life is a lot worse now that it was ten years ago” and “all the men and women working that they are a lot worse off than they were.“ are current Labour lines, so how will UKIP take votes from Labour with that same approach?
    Ignoring the fact that much of the problem is down to Labour bankrupting the country with its overborrowing and overspending, which Labour supporters do, how does it being the fault of the “rich” square with Nigel’s old line that the problem has been that for ten years Labour’s immigrants have taken British jobs and kept wages low?

  144. 144
    Douglas says:

    Most people on minimum wage effectively pay no income tax after receiving Working Tax Credits, and most receive Housing Benefit and Council Tax Reduction.

  145. 145
    Taxfodder says:

    (sighs) The Fat Controller must be away again, there will be pie crumbs and empty chip cartons scattered every where, expect greasy keys on the laptop and the Spectator to wipe your arse with in the bog….

  146. 146
    A rat enriched Rotherham takeaway says:

    Plus loads.

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  149. 149
    The Growler says:

    Come on Fawkesy, you once backed Nige only since you started working for the Master have you dedicated yourself to working for the Cons. How is it that you have gone to Doncaster that is way out for out of your usual west London safety zone, I know free booze, eats and a little something else (and don’t mean tarts) nowt else, have you seen any ordinary folk while you were there and there are some very wealthy people in Doncaster especially on the outskirts of the town.

  150. 150
    The Growler says:

    He is obeying the Master who pays Geedes loadsa dosh, what do you expect, once the Master changes his preference (the Master has always got to back what he perceives as the winner, to be the one that won it) Geedes will change his stance.

  151. 151
    The Growler says:

    Only a shilling, only a shilling, Rupe, he has his web site to run and all his employees, Geedes wants more than a shilling

  152. 152
    Err says:

    He we be deported after his jail term….

    Liar, liar, liar.
    He will never be deported.

  153. 153
    Err says:

    = what we have now.

  154. 154
    Anonymous says:

    “this country has a big problem”
    Its so called leaders are too afraid to submit their comprehensions to a series of elementary questions. Maybe they already appreciate that said ‘understandings’ are riven with contradictions. How much hope is there then, that ISIS can be persuaded to submit their ‘true’ ideology to examination, when their foes dare not perform that vital validation process either?
    Your starter for ten Nigel. Although two or three queries usually suffice. If referendums are the mark of real democracy, how come you are only offering the people one? What happened to government by the will of the people, or the majority mandating actual policies?

  155. 155
    Sally Bercow says:

    Ooh, goody!

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  157. 157
    Chuka NObama says:

    “A dispatches reporter spent four months working inside the New Labour press office in the run up to the election. Our undercover reporter worked in both the national and regional Labour press office alongside some of the party’s top spin doctors (Youtube Channel: BLIAR209).”

  158. 158
    The Growler says:

    But B’liar was Tory born, Tory bred, and almost everything he did was Tory, I would have thought that would have met with your approval, don’t forget the Master approved wholeheartedly of B’liar so you should shouldn’t you, don’t know if Geedes approved but when they were hounding B’Liar out of office, Geedes stated on here why would they want to get rid of a man who led Liebore to three large majorities.

  159. 159
    Hillary cup-cake says:

    It’s all been costed.

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    Hillary cup-cake says:

    Most people do… and most people want to vote labour

  161. 161
    Hillary cup-cake says:

    All kinds of working rights and protections were in existence in the UK before Brussels took legal control. The Brussels agenda is towards ever greater socialism and control, with existing members expected to fund and bail out more new ones.
    Liblabcon if re-elected will be unloading masses of civil service jobs because of the scale of the deficit, compound interest doubles every 7 years so has to be addressed sooner rather than later. Downscaling the public sector has been on the agenda for years, so losing those administering the EU will be doing the same job without affecting services. Staying within the open trade agreement is the best plan, and UK imports vastly more than exports , so they need UK to carry on buying from French and German farmers. Seems common sense to me.

  162. 162
    Hillary cup-cake says:

    Can’t see what the problem is, only where UKIP sit on the left vs right dichotomy introduced by some Frenchman centuries ago. Policy can go anywhere it wants to – UKIP is libertarian, and that appeals to all voters who need more of their money, less tax and less meddlesome large govt – for differents reasons, and vastly more controlled immigration.

    If definition of luxury goods is a piece of luggage over £1000.00, or the price of a £50k car rises by 5% – people who can afford £50k can afford an extra 5%, which is far fairer than ‘mansion tax'; and a token gesture for ‘labour voters’ who have been ‘psyched up’ for class warfare supported by Pickettys’ wealth inequality book, people who can’t afford to replace their old car to achieve lower band car tax if they wanted to.

    38% of tax paid by the poorest on indirect ‘sin’ products has to be reversed, the policy is wrong, it’s just keeping the poor stuck below a glass ceiling.

  163. 163
    Sir Roger de Senseless says:

    Which is taking with one hand and giving back with the other and employing civil servants at the tax-payers expense to administer this revolving door: simplify, simplify, simplify – if they don’t earn much money, don’t take it off ‘em in the first place.

  164. 164
    Demetrius Skortou says:

    Vote UKIP.

    ConLabLib parties will continue to screw up the country and continue to hand out & waste billions of taxpayers money to millions more migrants and waste billions more on; nuclear weapons, $15 Billion on overseas aid, £60 billion on quangos, billions wasted on bailing out countries; Portugal, Spain, Greece, etc.

    David Cameron claims that migrants have made a “net contribution to our economy”, (what ever the hell that is supposed to mean)!!!

    If Cameron is telling the truth, then why won’t he back this statements up by publishing ALL immigration data for the very first time?

    All the British people have had to rely on when it comes to statements made by politicians about immigration numbers & benefit pay outs to millions of migrants has ALWAYS been by word of mouth only.

    If Cameron, Milliband, Clegg & other politicians believe their statistic data on immigrants & migration, then I say to them…..prove what your saying is true and publish (for the first time in this country) the following immigration data:

    (a) how many migrants have arrived in Britain, since the signing of the Accession Treaty?

    (b) how many migrants have found jobs?

    (c) how much tax/insurance have migrants workers paid into the system?

    (d) how much have the British taxpayers paid out in benefits to migrants, since the signing of the Accession Treaty?

    I have never heard anyone bring this matter up with ANY politician.

    WHY?????????????????????????????????

  165. 165
    Bloke says:

    Come off it ,UKIP. This is shtoopid.

    The ‘rich’ already pay way more VAT than your average scrimper with all the crap they buy – why discourage them ffs?

    Don’t you know yet that every tax rise costs jobs? If you jack up VAT on stuff in the UK they’ll buy elsewhere. A net loss to the treasury. Don’t start coming up with this ‘more tax on this to pay for that’ crap that we had for years from Paddy Pantsdown. Look where it got him.

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    Jeffrey Bernard says:

    Was @WikiGuido coordinating the timing of the Newmark splash and the Reckless defection with Farage?

    #justasking


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