August 7th, 2014

Ellison Faces Public Plain Packs Backlash

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The final six week consultation on plain packaging for cigarettes comes to an end today. Pushy public health minister Jane Ellison is under pressure to take into consideration the 100,000 people who have signed a petition opposing plain packs, as well as the 50,000 who personally wrote to the Prime Minister rejecting the proposal. Ellison would never dream of ignoring 150,000 vocal opponents to her policy, would she?

Pic via @cjsnowdon.

165 Comments

  1. 1

    Guido defender of big tobaccos right to carry on killing people.

    How much are you being paid Guido?

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    • 9
      It's LEGAL FFS says:

      Last time I looked, smoking was perfectly legal as is tobacco. So much so that HMRC collects £billions of duty from tobacco products to fund such things as the NHS and foreign aid.

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      • 12
        rick says:

        People are not forced to smoke or take drugs – nobody is ‘killing’ them but themselves. It’s called freedom – freedom to be silly even.

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        • 24
          JadedJean45 says:

          This is not what democracy was supposed to be. To wield power responsibly, one has to understand it. Anarchism (and its modern euphemism like localism) is in practice just exploitation of the vulnerable by those who do well economically by preying upon (abusing) them and their vanity (i.e those who think and behave like women and children – look at the picture above for heaven’s sake!). It is sold as grass-roots freedom and choice, but it is nothing of the kind. It deprives the vulnerable of state protection from predators.

          Please stop supporting/encouraging this.

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          • Freedom is wasted on the free - kill, kill, kill says:

            Right on!

            The fucking plebs don’t know how to behave.

            Tell you what, let’s set up a committee to tell them how to behave, and if they don’t, we’ll send them to a special camp for re-education.

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          • The State is the Hydra – headed predator and all the people are vulnerable. Everyone needs protection from the Nannies and micro-managing control freaks who find the answers to all their wet dreams in a Centrist society. I don’t smoke, that’s my choice. My home is a no-smoking zone, that’s my choice. If someone wants to enjoy the legal but ultimately deadly habit of tobacco smoking, that’s their choice. But not in my presence.

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          • Violent Asquith says:

            You speak as though the State has ownership of the people and that we should do only that which is permitted by Law. Is the State not required to take cognizance of women who do form half the electorate and whom you see as especially “vulnerable”?

            Freedom, if it exists, is not given to us by the State and we live under government by consent.

            Smoking and drinking are life-shortening. There is no end to the list of thing that are “bad for us” but no party campaigns to ban them because they know that there is broad acceptance of these social vices and much tax to be had.

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        • 61
          Life is short says:

          Do shut up you moron.

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        • 87
          The Growler says:

          HMRC also take a lot of money for booze, which if taken in large quantities over time will lead to alcoholism and all sorts of illnesses, perfectly legal. Why not legalise cannabis treat it the same as booze drive with a cannabis high and you are banged up and tax it HMRC would get loads of money. I gave smoking years ago so it does not affect me, learnt my lesson I brought myself off them, if people want to smoke, fine, let them smoke but not in the same room as me

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        • 155

          Advertising.

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      • 13
        Indian Inter Stellar Call Centre Program says:

        Smoke more, you know it makes sense.

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      • 16
        Norm Normal says:

        I don’t mind people smoking as long as they do it well away from me, don’t inflict their addiction on others by polluting the air we all breath and get their own private health insurance so those who don’t wilfully damage their health, don’t have to subsidise those who do.

        As for plain packaging – the only thing that concerns me is the ease it provides to those who counterfeit goods?

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      • 154

        Tobacco is the ONLY product that is legal to sell which if you use it as the manufacturer suggests will be very bad for your health and will probably kill you.

        The only reason that this situation exists is due to the billions that the tobacco companies put into bribing the political class.

        Tobacco companies were denying until recently (even swearing so in front of Congress) that nicotine is not an addictive drug.

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        • 163
          Violent Asquith says:

          Absolutely! What government could do without smoking? It is a marvelous habit to encourage because it benefits the Ministry of Pensions and, paradoxically, the NHS.
          At nearly £7 for twenty over a year a smoker on 20 per day (not excessive today) will spend over £2500. Taxed at 16.4% tobacco yielded for the year 2013-2014 , £12.3 billion. So these smokers make a £400 a year contribution as a kind of anti-health insurance.

          As a non-smoker I think it is a revolting habit but it should be taught in all schools! Now!

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    • 14
      George Galloway MP says:

      Money flows in from Saudi Arabia to buy voters to vote for me. Money flows in from Tobacco companies to buy for protestors against plain packaging policy. What is the difference?

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      • 78
        Norm Normal says:

        Money flows from Geoarge the other way. George Galloway was banned from entering Canada for giving £1000s to Hamas and Hesbollah. The Canadian Dept. of Immigration decribed him as infandous (too odious for words). There is actually a picture in the video showing him handing over money.

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        • 89
          Smelling the coffee says:

          What about the right of PALESTINIANS to defend themselves!
          The West is full of scum who give arms and arms aid to Israel to the tune of billions!

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          • Cpl Hicks says:

            Well f’uck off out of the west then you utter c’unt.

            Useless f’ucking skid marks of humanity like you don’t do your cause any favours. Now f’uck off and f’uck yourself whilst you’re doing it you utter f’ucking retard.

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          • Paniagua says:

            You are obviously a ZioNAZI corporal in the IDF.
            Real successful “country” you and your master race have got there!

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          • Cpl Hicks says:

            Actually I’m British you utter fucking arse. Now fuck off and play with the traffic.

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        • 90
          Sir Nob Skelpoff says:

          Canada has been transformed from a neutral, peace loving place into Warmonger NeoCon Zio central

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          • Zio-nist says:

            Nearly everyone’s a Zio-nist and involved in the Zio-nist conspiracy. they just don’t know it until the handful of rational anti-Zio-nists explain it to them……

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          • Paniagua says:

            You only have to witness the circumcised cocksucking to realise who the suckers are. Canada is now one of Israel’s most loyal donkeys.

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    • 15
      And says:

      Of course tobacco will become far less lethal with plain packaging won’t it?
      Oh, hang on, if it is in plain packaging it will be easier to sell fake ‘brands’ containing f#ck knows what and contributing f#ck all to the exchequer.

      #idioticproposalresultsinunexpectedworseningofsituation

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      • 96
        The Growler says:

        They probably don’t contain 100% tobacco they certainly don’t smell like they used to, maybe they put shredded cartridge paper in the mix, they certainly smell like it.

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    • 18
      Fauz Firdaus, Master Indonesian Counterfeiter says:

      Plain packaging… I support the UK Government!

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      • 52
        Richard Branson your non-dom get rich quick great guy says:

        By Virgin cigrettes in ones or as many as you like from our vending machines. Bring your own paper bag, case or old package to carry them away in.

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    • 33
      matt says:

      Since when was governing on the basis of how many people signed a petition a good idea?

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    • 54
      Oh! FFS says:

      Miles out.

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    • 77
      Anonymous says:

      Most Eastern Europeans smoke so more burdens on the NHS by those who havn’t paid in.

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      • 104
        WoRaft Chihuahua says:

        I thought the argument was that smoking kills? If it does, then that is much cheaper.

        Anyway, this does not reduce smoking; it is a gift for organized crime so that it can fake products even more easily.

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      • 108
        The Growler says:

        Occasionally, years ago, I smoked Sobranie Black Russian ciggies they were strong but they did not give you that horrible taste in your mouth they were expensive then so they must have gone through the roof in cost. Best to give up smoking altogether don’t try to give up all of a sudden do it gradually slowly reducing the number smoked, then there is less likelyhood of starting again, same for booze and it gives your body chance to adjust.

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    • 106
      Fags International inc. says:

      They are a suspiciously dressed and well-organised lot.

      Most of us couldn’t give a fuck one way or the other.

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    • 141
      Anonymous says:

      Down With The Nanny State

      ( The views of a grumpy old man )

      I have now for certain concluded that the nanny state thinks we are fools
      I have seen our society changing I am staggered at some of the rules
      No longer do we have the freedom to take risk after weighing the odds
      When having considered the chances put our fate in the lap of the gods

      Banned are the daredevil heroes of which our great nation was proud
      Adventure, thrill, exhilaration are simply no longer allowed
      Today it’s all stresses and traumas caused by the slightest mishap
      Not by bombs, poverty or starvation but by insignificant crap

      We must not get upset or worried or ever receive reprimand
      Our lives must be like Mary Poppins or we will be mentally harmed
      Before councillors were invented and you were confronted by strife
      You didn’t start whinging and whining you simply got on with your life

      Nobody made a commotion if a schoolteacher gave you the cane
      For it was considered unmanly if you couldn’t cope with the pain
      Villains broke rocks up on Dartmoor and murderers paid with their lives
      Fisticuffs settled a dispute for only a coward used knives

      Hooligans given a birching, till their backsides were blooded and sore
      It’s hard to look tough when your crying so very few went back for more
      Now it seems kids can’t play conkers at playtime unless wearing specs
      And fireman’s poles are a hazard, I wonder what they’ll think of next

      Workmen all need to have footwear with steel that’s built into the toes
      Plus high visibility jackets worn over their normal work cloths
      What with P.C. and human rights rubbish and constant advice on our food
      We should tell all do-gooders to “Stuff-it” up somewhere decidedly rude

      How do they think we all managed before all this twaddle arrived
      Through wars, poverty, depravation a hell of a lot still survived
      Don’t patronise us with this drivel, my generations not dense
      We have learned to roll with life’s punches by just using sound common sense

      If we could just gaze in a crystal and the next fifty years we could glimpse
      Then I for one feel pretty certain we will then have a nation of wimps
      None of us need to be coddled, we don’t need it all on a plate
      Let’s stand up to all these busybodies and jettison the nanny state

      The result of this do-gooder nonsense is easy for us to detect
      By the loss of respect for each other and virtually no self respect
      Gone are the days of the nit-nurse gone is the headmasters cane
      Is society better off for it? Perhaps we should all think again

      Roy May

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    • 144
      Anonymous says:

      David, then we’ll just start sowing wild Nicotiana (sp) seeds all over the UK especially in Devon and Cornwall where they grow best and there are lots of hippies who will resent you.

      Then, of course, people will be able to just go out and harvest their own leaves. “Legiron” (the bolg is called “Underdogs bite upwards”) will tell you about the idea.

      What will the BritishPolitical-EnemyClass do then? Cover the nation with Agent Orange…just in case?

      I wouldn’t put it past the bastards.

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      • 150
        Ex smoker says:

        Stopped now but I used to grow my own tobacco in GB.
        Dead easy and great fun.
        The skill is in not letting it go mouldy when it dries.

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    • 153
      giant gonad says:

      Look like a hired crowd.

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    • 160
      idenisovich says:

      The pathetic ad hominem whine of a morally bankrupt movement. You know that you are lying but still cannot help wheeling out your scripted soviet dogma. Truly pathetic.

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  2. 2
    bollocks says:

    what a load of bollocks

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  3. 3
    Filthy habit says:

    What percentage of the British population smoke?
    How many new smokers does Big Tobacco have to recruit each year to replace those it has killed?

    Time for it to be made illegal for anyone born after 31/12/1999 to smoke.

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    • 11
      concrete pump says:

      Looked over when school prefects were announced…?

      Failed to pass the police entrance tests..?

      Please fuck off..!

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      • 63
        Primary school says:

        No prefects here. Biggest and only problem was the school sneak.

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      • 65
        Anonymous says:

        Having smoked for 40 years I gave it up in my early 50s, Results, I felt much fitter but I also put on 4 stone in weight. Now some twenty years later my GP tells me I am too fat, however many of the nurses at both my local GPs and the local hospital look like they are auditioning for the rolly pollies and are only half my age.
        These health freaks give me the shits with their moaning

        THIS SLIMMING LARK

        I want to look good.
        It is high time that I should
        The mirror in the wardrobe told me so
        I am now no longer fit
        Just an old decrepit git
        Who lost his youthful figure long ago

        My hair is going grey
        Doesn’t look like it will stay
        My teeth are on the sideboard in a glass
        I’ve somehow lost my charms
        Like the muscles in my arms
        I spend too much time sitting on my arse

        If I’m not consuming grub
        I’ll be boozing down the pub
        At keeping fit I am an abject failure
        And when I’m in the nude
        My belly does protrude
        So much so that I cant see my genitalia

        I must go on a diet
        I know that I should try it
        No more Pork Pies, Sausage Rolls or Steak and Chips
        No more will I take on
        A sandwich of bacon
        For I wish to reclaim those snake like hips

        I think I’ll make a pledge
        To eat only fruit and veg
        I will cut out beer and wine and stuff like that
        If I tell the truth
        My cholesterols through the roof
        Yet I’ve never been unhappy being fat

        I was reared on bread and lard
        So I sometimes find it hard
        To take on board the things my Doctor said
        I tell you I’m not joking
        I enjoy beer, food and smoking
        And as for my old Doctor, well he’s dead.

        So should I reduce my food?
        I’m not really in the mood
        As I sit here watching Masters Chefs on telly
        And when I’m no longer here
        There’s no need to shed a tear
        Just be happy that I went with a full belly.

        Bugger the diet!!!!!!!

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    • 23
      Whack-a-mole says:

      What business is it of your’s?
      Did any smokers ask you for health diktat?
      Making smoking illegal will enhance the mystique of smoking – see narcotics. Also it is not possible to tax the use of an illegal substance.

      With CP on this, do one.

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    • 27
      Stalin says:

      Big government far superior to big oil big pharma or big tobacco comrade.

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    • 39
      There's a good child says:

      Summer holidays from the local secondary modern are we?

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    • 57
      Oh! FFS says:

      And Next??

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    • 110
      B'ger orf says:

      Tell me what you like doing, so I can pick something to ban.

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    • 124
      The Growler says:

      “Time for it to be made illegal for anyone born after 31/12/1999 to smoke. ” That old chap is seen as a challenge to any teenage child, I remember tales of lads going in to pubs (you had to be 18 yo ) just to see how long it would be before the publican noticed them and slung them out. I used to go to the corner shop for ciggies for my parents there was no problem there it was allowed. I also remember seeing you lads watching cars to see if a part smoked cig was throw out, terrible I know but it happened in those days.

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  4. 4
    Nanny State knows best says:

    We will do what we like.

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  5. 6
    Smoking Beagle says:

    I cant read so I’m not fussed.

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  6. 7
    Behind the bike sheds says:

    Perfect excuse for everyone to buy silver cigarette cases

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  7. 8
    MP`s are Morons says:

    The criminal gangs are rubbing their hands with glee look at how its worked out in Ireland and Australia

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  8. 10
    Anonymous says:

    Plain packs – ooooh good. Cheaper fags!

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    • 19
      Cpl Hicks says:

      Of course. Fakes will be much cheaper as they’re much easier to produce with plain packaging.

      I don’t understand this government. One second it’s off on policy fact finding trips to Sweden learning how to do care for the elderly. Next it’s ignoring all the evidence from Australia on how their policy for plain packaging has utterly failed.

      How difficult can it be to reject policies that clearly don’t work?

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      • 28
        The no hopes of the little people against the sewers of the politicians says:

        Fact finding= free holidays for the family= they couldn’t give a sh1t, time for all politicians account for what they do on public business, I thought they were supposed to do public service , not do for themselves, time clock cards should be supplied to all MPs and House of Lords and expenses should come under HMRC scrutiny, pay by hours worked up to 40 hours and a zero hours contract.

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      • 45
        Winston says:

        There is no debate or choice. It is an EU directive that the UK pushed for.

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      • 129
        The Growler says:

        “One second it’s off on policy fact finding trips to Sweden learning how to do care for the elderly.” and they cannot implement those, just a waste of money, excuse for a jolly.

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  9. 21
    Ed Balls says:

    I cum in a plain packet.
    She’s called Yvette

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  10. 26
    Diane Abbott says:

    We should have plain packs of Sugar.

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  11. 38
    Grand Mufti Diver says:

    Smoking is a drug and therefore is Haram for devout Mussies.

    Which is why Mussies with AK47s are often pictured with a fag.

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    • 131
      The Growler says:

      They do not realise that nicotine is a drug, a lethal one at that, it used to be used as an insecticide, ciggie butts immersed in a bucket of water, by some gardeners year ago.

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    • 151
      ffingfsake says:

      I was wondering when a Hasbara nutter would turn up to hatemonger some more.

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  12. 40
    Pong says:

    Plain packaging won’t stop the stench that always accompanies smokers.

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    • 95
      And says:

      Smoking is, conveniently, a handy repellent for the self righteous.

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      • 116
        nowotimeen says:

        Vomit is, conveniently, a handy repellent for the self-harming.

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        • 134
          The Growler says:

          I was waiting for a bus and I passed this young guy, he looked totally Brahms and Liszt swigging from a tinny, I though I hope he is not catching the same bus as me. The bus finally came and I boarded bus with a few others, and yes you guessed it the rat arsed guy got on luckily he moved further down the bus. The bus moved off nothing happened for about 5 minutes suddenly the wretch vomited catching the guy in front of him, poor chap drenched in boozy vomit, when I got off I mention it to the driver who sat totally impassive. That guy wasn’t Fawkesy No 1or 2 though. This did actually happen about 2 years ago.

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        • 135
          And so, continuing with the theme says:

          Drinking = self harm
          Sunbathing = self harm
          Obesity = self harm
          Marathon running = self harm
          Eating red meat = (allegedly) self harm
          Childbirth = self harm
          Tattoos = self harm
          Body piercing = self harm
          Use of oxygen = (oxidative destruction of DNA) self harm
          Living = self harm
          Stress (caring) = self harm
          Banish them all with vomit, panacea of the dogma class.

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          • nowotimeen says:

            Dogma’s got nothing to do with.

            You can smoke or drink whatever the fuck you want, as long as I don’t have to smell it, you stinky old ponce.

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          • nowitatall says:

            Let he who is odourless cast the first ad-hom.
            Thank you for your unnecessary permission & inaccurate description.

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  13. 41
    BBC 24hr Rolling Bollocks says:

    All fags should be in a drab grey packet so you don’t know what’s inside.
    Similar to an MP.

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    • 50
      Madness is rife says:

      Unfortunately you are very close to the truth. When the full laws kick in tobacconists will have to even put their pipe tobaccos in opaque jars so that people can not see what a dried leaf looks like. Our parliamentarians have take “leave” of their senses.

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      • 115
        WoRaft Chihuahua says:

        Next, all trees in autumn to be shrouded. “California Dreaming” banned as it contains prohibited references.

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    • 136
      The Growler says:

      Some the MPs were fags at one time in their lives, even DC

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  14. 42
    St Bruno says:

    You can’t beat a good shag.

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  15. 44
    Owen Jones says:

    Fags, plain – Pah

    I will wear my gold spandex assless chaps when I want thanks.

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  16. 47
    Triads V Google says:

    This is the gentleman ( sic) who is trying to sue Google for connecting him with the triads.

    http://www.newrepublic.com/article/politics/90738/partners-in-crime

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  17. 48
    i_love_monday_mornings says:

    Who the hell are the young people in the picture? Paid students? The same folk that “wrote” in to complain?

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    • 70
      Your £2 a week will give me 10p a week towards my gap year savings says:

      Look like a bunch of chuggers to me

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  18. 51
    Oh! FFS says:

    Pain packaged as politicians.

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  19. 53
    Government should Fuck off and only do the bare minimum. says:

    I really can not see what business it is of the State as to what pictures are on a fag packet. And I don’t smoke, and it is no business of mine either.

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    • 138
      The Growler says:

      I wonder if they used the page 3 models from the Sun on a packet of ciggies would increase their sales, and those of an Islamic persuasion would have to stop smoking because of the pictures of half dressed tarts is against their religion

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  20. 58

    In the end it comes down to the balance – what will gain the most votes

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  21. 59
    That's what you want that's what you get says:

    I packed up fags as much for political reasons as health one’s.
    The establishment think they have won but I’m having the last laugh because along with giving up smokes I’ve given up a few other revenue raising habits.
    Including work.

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  22. 60
    Life is short says:

    You’ve got to be spectacularly dumb to smoke.
    Doesn’t surprise me that 150,000 idiots could be found to push cancer sticks.

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  23. 64
    ahmonika says:

    I remember the days when politicians didn’t have time for this rubbish. Now they have bugger all to do.

    Let’s have another Falklands, better still a 100 years war with France.

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  24. 67
    Kirsty Wark says:

    Do you marvel at my dress sense?

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  25. 71
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    Aled Jones, the rich mans Owen Jones.

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  26. 72
    Bolshy says:

    I’m not Scottish but all those people saying “Don’t vote for independence” (Mick Jagger FFS!) would make me more likely to vote for it.

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  27. 74
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    Why not make and sell everything in plain packs, and then you would get a surprise when you get home.

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  28. 83

    Translation: Come on punk: Make my day.

    (The only problem is such rhetoric is not a great idea when used against a country that can comprehensively kick your arse. But we shall see what P’utin – or more importantly – the other members of the EEU – make of it.)

    Vote UKIP :-D

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  29. 99
    ahmonika says:

    If they put badgers in plain packaging……..

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  30. 109
    Blind_leading_the_blind says:

    Any news on the 63,950,000 non-vocalists?

    P.S. Didn’t realise there were as many as 150,000 smokers left

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  31. 112

    @ConcretePump :

    If this is confirmed and happens tonight, it may be the inside scoop the Azzies have which prompted that tweet:

    http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-day-171-barricades-burn-once-again-as-authorities-try-to-clear-maidan/#3687

    R’umours (unconfirmed reports) of emergency speech to be made by P’utin tonight @ 20:30 on R’ussian TV.

    Vote UKIP :-D

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  32. 113

    The only beneficiaries of plain packaging will be be the counterfeiters,the market will be swamped with rubbish made from god knows what , at least the dangers of smoking tobacco are well known ,the consumers of this perfectly legal product have been nannied and demonised for long enough,and are entitled to the same amount of consumer protection as anyone else.
    Is it any wonder that many smokers have taken to smuggled products from east Europe and beyond because of the punitive taxes placed on tobacco.
    The next nanny attack will be on your pint , as they are equally determined to close down the remaining pubs.

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  33. 118
    Just say "fuck the fuck off" says:

    Plain packaging is the Burqa of the tobacco domain.

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  34. 120
    Banned says:

    Just put images of the Eagle sisters on the packets. Nobody would ever want to buy a pack again.

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  35. 127
    David Cameroon says:

    Look over there Sam it’s a dead fish, blimey this shops full of em…

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  36. 128
    ahmonika says:

    As I get older I am finding it harder to breathe. I’ve taken to popping bubble wrap to access some clean air.

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  37. 132
    ++EXCLUSIVE++ from our reporter, Anne Drecks says:

    Forgive me for busting into the fag-packaging non-story but this just in on PM Boris’s next move:
    Nick Hurd, MP for Ruislip-Northwood, an ultra-safe Tory seat, has confirmed that he, due to his every fuck producing another child ever-expanding family commitments, may well stand down before the next election.
    Johnson, and his “mini-Boris”, could, feasibly, find themselves pounding the parts of we Middlesexuals that previous slackers representatives have failed to arouse.
    The, imaginary, leafy lanes of East Cott are a wonder to behold in the late September sunshine.

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  38. 143
    Jack the Ripper says:

    Let’s have plain party political election leaflets.

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  39. 145
    Smokers are criminals! says:

    I am sick to death of these pathetic coughing spluttering little whining smokers who inflict their cancer and drugs on everyone and expect us to make allowances for their desperate unbalanced living little stinking addiction. These people are scumbags who have no tolerance of other people’s wishes. I wish them all an early death quite frankly!

    Sort your chaotic little lives out and leave us healthy people to breathe!

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    • 146
      Counselling? says:

      Were you sexually abused by a smoker as a child? I am qualified to listen. I have a real leather couch!

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    • 149
      pathetic coughing splutterer says:

      I hope you find blood on your toilet paper in the morning.

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  40. 156
    Rothmans gold tipped death says:

    Dennis Healey would have called this crowd ‘Silly Billies’.

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  41. 159
    Jack Ketch says:

    What proved healthier for Lord Smith, head of Environment Agency and keen rambler. Not smoking or sticking his willy up the bottom of an HIV infected rent boy on Clapham Common?

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  42. 165
    lojolondon says:

    “Ellison would never dream of ignoring 150,000 vocal opponents to her policy, would she?”

    Well, actually, that is exactly what she will do. She takes her orders from Number 10, not from voters or the public, this not being a democracy, no-one cares about common sense, what works, what things cost or what people think. The only thing that politicians care about is what the Biased BBC thinks, because they set the tone on every issue.

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“Politicians attempt to appeal to the lowest common denominator by posturing with tough policies and calling for crackdown after crackdown. Drugs policy has been failing for decades.”



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