August 2nd, 2014

Saturday Seven Up

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You’re either in front of Guido, or behind…


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    Vote Dave? Get stuffed says:

    Able was I ere I saw Ebola.

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      Is it more PC than Science? says:

      How come I can’t bring back any untested and certified Fauna and Flora from abroad in case it infests natural British Fauna and Flora?

      Yet we are told it is impossible to test and certify anyone out of Africa for disease and pestilence.

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      Anonymous says:

      Im really sick of that woman who knew George Osborne 20 years ago appearing at intervals with childish photographs ! FFS .It doesnt even look like him, it smacks of a nasty unbalanced woman trying to cause damage.Is anybody suggesting that she was forced into her stupid behaviour ?

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        Anonymous says:

        I thought she was trying to repair the damage.

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        Ossie's Ex says:

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        The Growler says:

        She was a high class tart, Gideon wouldn’t haven’t gone for a common tart, Gideon should have had more sense but no one forced the little tinker to go to her “parties”, that fat old man rather intrigues me, who is he, was Gideon there just to watch or was the fat geezer there to watch Gideon perform, there are certainly unanswered questions. As someone remarked the flat looked rather sparse furniture wise, it wasn’t one of those places where porn filming takes place. All in all, it leaves many questions to be answered.

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          The two Muppets says:

          Why are you looking for dirt when there is nothing there ?
          She is just a sad old scrubber looking for a payout .

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      The Growler says:

      “You’re either in front of Guido, or behind…” what ever you do keep Geedes and Co in front of you, you are safer that way.

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    Mine d'Boggles says:

    A wonderful summer day here in the West Country – belting with rain and freezing cold. please Geoffrey Lean, send me some globule warming.

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      Minehead or Mineshaft?

      (Had four long swims yesterday in 25° water and talked to an angel! If I were just 80 years younger, I would have been too young… :-) )

      Vote UKIP :-D

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      Jim says:

      Oh dear; no such problem in sunny ecosse!
      Just as well everyone dahn saaf is brainwashed into thinking it rains here all the time, makes them feel less indisposed.

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        The Growler says:

        Jim, all those southern softies think that the sarth east is like the rest of the UK in all things, like a booming economy, weather – they always have the best, and they have bad weather it’s all over the UK

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    Mos guilty as sin says:

    That Libyan adventure was a real success, eh?

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      non taxable pikey says:

      While they are killing each other…..

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        Norm Normal says:

        It’s a cultural difference that we grew out of after WW2. In the Middle East and Africa they negotiate by killing. The body count is then brought to the table as a basevof power.

        The whinging from the left and the western politicians only makes it continue longer. It’s actually best to let them get on with it.

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    In answer to Purple Rose on a Donkey who posted:
    VOTE UKIP GET LABOUR AND DON’T GET A REFERENDUM
    

    No. Voting LibLabCon IS LUNACY! People have been doing just this for a century. Look where it has got us:

    * From the greatest nation on earth with an empire which spanned it, all speaking English (at the beginning) to a country which is more indebted per head than any other in the world.

    * From a country which controlled its borders to one which has forgotten how to.

    * From a country of educated peoples who, no matter what background or wealth level, depended on self-sufficiency to a country of gibbering morons who crave state handouts.

    * From a country where the warning inside the front page of one’s passport carried a message which few ignored to a country where all who see the same words now scoff at the undeliverability of it.

    * From a nation whose laws were issued in the name of our sovereign, the ultimate repository of power to absolute and abject subservience to a place which is only five miles north of where we had defeated Napoleon in 1815! Jesus! Do you still not see it yet?

    Labour voters are going to shed more voters to UKIP as they don’t like any of the above either.

    Why do you think Dave is shifting his ground so far now? It would not have happened without UKIP! It will not happen without UKIP!

    Vote UKIP :-D

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      An important point is that Dave has not shifted any ground.

      The ground has shifted under him, and he is trying to make it look like he is keeping up.

      Voting L’abour is a waste of a vote – it will not bring back the good times which they squandered before.

      Voting C’onservative, without anything resembling T’hatcherism is similarly a waste of a vote.

      No party may be able to deliver a good economy, but UKIP is best poised to repair some of the damage done to the country if only by slowing down the continued rot. They’ll also keep the UK on good terms with E’urope as it exits.

      Vote UKIP :-D

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        UKIP: Hacking at the roots with the truth says:

        @ SC + 100.000

        @ EUFPEUT Logic, pure and simple.

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        To the point in your first sentence, he is posturing as if he has shifted his ground.

        This is what is known as form over content. Now, who does that remind you of? Who has a lot of form on this? Who did Dave model himself so closely on?

        Stand up Anthony Charles Lynton. Your day of judgment has come!

        Vote UKIP :-D

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          That might be a false comparison. Could equally compare him to B’rown on that basis, or M’ajor even.

          Dave models himself on the w’eak as p!ss plastic manager type that infests most UK companies these days. No conviction, just marking time whilst hoping to progress to something better, and a little bit vindictive when that doesn’t materialize.

          B’la!r actually did change things – still too early to judge – his posturing really only applied to the UK itself which if it wasn’t for the memory of Bla!rs international activities would have forgotten him by now.

          It is fair to say that Bla!r’s era saw no positive lasting legacy created in the UK – for the post part the UK legacy was: debt, asset price inflation and dumbing down / oppression under PC.

          Vote UKIP :-D

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          • Disagree with you here. ;-) That is good and healthy IMO.

            Major, and even Brown, had diametrically opposing objectives. Neither was ultimately successful but they each stood for something. What Blair and Cameron have in common is a belief in that marketing trumps all.

            That is true only until it ceases to be… To unpack that piece of flippancy (brought on by rising annoyance, as I think about them), it means that the primary objective is to pull the wool over our eyes. Blair’s one justifiable claim to fame is that he did that more effectively than anyone I can think about in recent history.

            The reason that Dave is not as successful as Blair is that some people (i.e. those who are not clients of the state) have woken up to it. So Dave is trying to pull the three card trick where half the audience has been conned already. (My BP is rising… will go out after this!)

            Ed’s fortune is that the polls tell him that he is in striking distance of that elusive 35% which will hand him the reins.

            UKIPs success is that it can speak to those of the left who have also been conned. As well as the right who know they have been conned. That, simply, is why UKIP is the place to go.

            Vote UKIP and KEEP CALM ;-) :-D

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          • As stated above, when it comes to UK domestically agree on your assessment of Bla!r – but not completely.

            Bla!r is no angel, but ‘his’ legacy to the UK is much more left-wing media spin attempting to distract from the real culprits who caused damage to the UK domestically during his tenure.

            Those culprits were the civil service and L’abour party itself.

            A striking aspect of B’la!rs style of leadership: He did not micro-manage. But is conveniently blamed for everything ? There is a gap in the logic there :-)

            That is not abdicating responsibility, but by focusing antipathy on him distracts from the much bigger problem. The implication is that without a micro-manager L’abour governments are incapable of effective governance.

            That is perhaps a message worth hammering home.

            Internationally, Bla!r was different.

            There he definitely did not pull the wool over anyone’s eyes and initiated a number of changes directly and decisively. Whether those changes worked or worked in the UK’s favour in the medium term is a different matter.

            C’ameron on the other hand, even internationally, has failed to make any impact other than project the UK as being weak and untrustworthy.

            L’ibya is one case in point – The recently declared E’mirate of B’enghazi is in part embarrassing for the US, but equally so for the UK which tried to claim a victory there. C’ameron may have pulled back there fearing a ‘Bla!r backlash’ – which again runs counter to the comparison.

            The A’lgerian gas plant attack would not have seen B’lair phoning the A’lgerian government asking why they had not told him they were going in hard. He would have known, or at least spun it to make it appear that he had in part authorized it.

            Syr!a also is a big departure. In that case though, Bla!r would have avoided walking into the trap not by P’arliamentary vote (allowing responsibility to be shifted) but likely would have just said: No.

            Bla!r’s biggest mistake, IMHO, for allowing his legacy to be properly gauged, was leaving office before B’ush.

            Whilst Bla!r is demonstrably much closer to the C’linton’s, it would have been interesting to see how he and O’bama would have interacted.

            Vote UKIP :-D

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          • Thesis:

            * Domestic politics is necessarily antecedent to international politics. (One has to become elected in the first place and that depends upon domestic voters.)

            * The political philosophy and ethical values of the former political territory is bound to instruct one’s approach to the latter.

            * A realist understands that interests have to come first, second and third in the latter.

            * Ergo, when judging someone’s worth solely in terms of IR, one runs a risk of losing a critical part of the input.

            In respect of your further consideration of the above progression, I would draw the distinctions between Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair.

            Thatcher drew Reagan’s attention to the fact that Gorbachev was a person she could do business with. That was, crucially, initiative leading. The Blair, which I witnessed, was only a follower. He was the Chauncey Gardner to Thatcher’s Capability Brown, if you know what I mean! ;-)

            Vote UKIP :-D

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          • Bla!r did lead in his international ventures.

            Arguably that was in !raq also where the US media was quite careful to paint him (and UK) as providing the leading step.

            Something similar happened recently with Syr!a.

            Not sure what you were watching on Bla!r, but recall:

            i) B’ush with the ‘whatever he says’ remarks in US press conferences.
            ii) Shoulder to Shoulder – post 9-11
            iii) Recall the hyperbole about American’s claiming Bla!r could run and win in elections over there also ? At the time he was seen as a leader there and also by many folk in E’urope. B’ush never commanded the same kind of respect – anywhere.

            Bla!r certainly did not follow anyone with his early West Afr!can ventures. If anything, he had to be reined in a bit.

            There is not much to do with IR here – the politics of Bla!r were authoritarian and domestically direct leadership was broadly absent. Abdicating that responsibility to a party of failures and a ‘hostile’ civil service caused the problems.

            If anything, ‘blame’ – and this does intersect C’ommon P’urpose etc. – can be laid at P’rescott’s door. As deputy PM, other than assaulting members of the electorate – he truly achieved nothing and failed to provide the quiet leadership domestically that Bla!r’s style demanded. This situation is one reasons why a DPM role exists.

            C’ommon P’urpose emerged from his office.

            Separating what happened from the media spin and personal feelings is important. That’s worth reflecting on.

            It is the issue of responsibility and unwillingness to assume it which strongly marks Bla!r and C’ameron out. C’ameron is not emulating Bla!r but is either reflecting bad habits picked up during that time, or more likely, it is just his character.

            If anything C’ameron is much more deceitful with his deceit than Bla!r was.

            One of Bla!r’s major political flaws was his belief that military methods alone could effect lasting political change. That is false – as is being learned by others right now.

            His biggest error was underestimating R’ussia – a very large part of why his legacy has been trashed and the principal reason why he his now somewhat ‘h’ated’.

            Vote UKIP :-D

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          • Oh fuck. I just hit my own like!

            Oh double fuck-fuck! An email has just come in to advise me of that fact! Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuckety fuck!

            Vote UKIP :-D

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          • Whilst I appreciate your observations here and agree with some of them, Blair’s exploits in W Africa do not compare with Thatcher’s appraisal of Gorbachev IMHO.

            Bush wanted to hose some of the other stuff off and, guess what? Here was a useful idiot to help him…

            Vote UKIP :-D

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          • May want to tone down T’hatcher – G’orbachev.

            It looks there like she was taken in – thinking P’erestroika deception.

            C’ommonality with Bla!r though – again the UK led the US in an important area of F-P, however, T’hatcher would have taken responsibility for her error if realized.

            Vote UKIP :-D

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          • On your last point, I would agree totally.

            Would just like to go back to Blair a moment, though. You were blaming the failings upon the civil service and the Labour Party.

            This is not false but neither does it exculpate Blair. He chose many of these people himself. The buck stops with him!

            There is one very limited point which attaches to Prescott. As deputy leader, he was not appointed by Blair but theoretically by the electoral college of the Labour Party. In practice, we have come to learn that this means the unions.

            If the UK electorate ever needed to learn a lesson from this, it would be never to vote for the Labour Party again. It is such a bad aspect of their constitution that it constitutes sufficient reason in itself not to vote for them.

            It is a direct equivalent of Clause Four something about which back in 1990, I told one of their councillors in Birmingham, was sufficient reason for my never considering to vote Labour.

            But Blair was to blame for what happened on his watch. That is the way it works. The lack of coherent political philosophy also differentiates markedly between him and Margaret Thatcher.

            Vote UKIP :-D

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          • I have not been advocating for exculpation of B’la!r – just trying to point out that the full ‘blame’ and ‘side taking’ is not entirely correct and also conceals much larger problems.

            Regarding him objectively, and this is to your point, as a ‘manager’ Bla!r was lacking.

            The real problem is that the others who were involved at the time – on both sides – including as you point out the Unions – are still there. In that respect if L’abour were put in irrespective of who leads them the same errors would be repeated.

            On that basis focus on Bla!r is distracting and disingenuous as it conceals the bigger problem.

            Ultimately in a democracy the buck stops with the people who voted their representation in.

            The case of !raq can be held up as one purely on the government given that they ignored the very clear sentiments demanding at least a Parliamentary vote on the matter as evidenced by the 1m+ people who mobilized and marched peacefully through L’ondon.

            Lesson there: Next time don’t do it peacefully.

            Vote UKIP :-D

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          • Understand and clearly (or so I hope), I was not accusing you of any exculpation of Blair.

            Got interrupted before and missed out the best part of my story:

            “…back in 1990, I told one of their councillors in Birmingham, was sufficient reason for my never considering to vote Labour.”

            She was considering running as an MP and was well connected – so probably made it.

            But she turned round to me in puzzlement and said this: “What’s Clause Four?”

            Seriously! She did not know what it was! Yet was happy to promote herself as someone who should be making our laws.

            I don’t intend to be too mean to her as she was a perfectly nice lady. Her husband was a Conservative and they ran a good B&B at a time that I had become rather sick of hotel life.

            If I ever need to reminded how ill-prepared some of our legislators are, I think back to this moment.

            Vote UKIP and educate yourself :-D

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          • No worries.

            That Clause IV story I’ve heard somewhere before – maybe different person etc.

            Reflecting: As it was once a key defining aspect of the UK L’abour movement, ignorance of it by L’abour activists / members indicates more that the party decided to quietly remove it, probably by subtly removing references from literature.

            That individuals ignorance speaks loudly and perhaps communicates more than you realized at the time, beyond the obvious impression that it left. ;-)

            Vote UKIP :-D

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          • Agree with you.

            Confess, I have told the story on these pages at least once before, but not recently.

            It does illustrate the danger, to which all of us can fall prey, of accepting matters at face value or worse, of interpreting results in a manner which we want to believe.

            My earlier reference refers. The Peter Sellers film, Being There was so brilliantly illustrative of the phenomenon where a simpleton, through a whole sequence of such mishaps and coincidences, ends up as POTUS.

            To your point, I remember that the Labour party did tend to sweep it under the carpet and so only those who researched the subject, or at least read a broadsheet paper of the day, would know of it.

            The choice of a political party for so many people seems to be on the basis of which university they support in the Boat Race. They choose a side because their parents choose it. It is purely tribal with no mental application taking place.

            Only later might they actually think of what they are voting for.

            To Blair’s credit, and you won’t see those words from me very frequently, he did confront that early on in his opposition days as leader.

            Vote UKIP :-D

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          • Interesting what you mention about thinking, universities and voting.

            In UK most young folk are conditioned out of critical thinking. One of the effects of this is the upside down logic where the young have an affinity for L’abour, and the older (wiser) generation have usually shifted towards the right.

            That particularly applies to those who have passed through the university system.

            That should be the opposite way round.

            Vote UKIP :-D

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        Stuff the LibLabCon says:

        They’ll also keep the UK on good terms with E’urope as it exits.”

        An excellent point. Rather than being a reluctant sulky bride locked into an unhappy marriage we will become one of their best friends.

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          Respect is a two way street – E’urope has to adjust its approach towards the UK a bit as well.

          In particular, the rhetoric about how the E’uropean Union would fail if the UK left needs to be trimmed.

          That is disrespectful to the achievements of E’uropeans and implies that the EU is dependent on the UK: Both of those notions are dangerous falsehoods.

          As WWII taught the UK, stability and good relations with E’urope is important for maintaining UK interests, so E’urope must realize that stability and good relations with the UK are important for theirs.

          At least N’igel can meet the EU Pres on common ground over a coffee, cognac and smoke whilst politely checking excessive nationalism, an approach which perhaps is much more fruitful for managing future relations with E’urope than the approach of critical petulance that Dave has demonstrated thus far.

          Vote UKIP :-D

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      non taxable pikey says:

      +1
      Vote UKIP.

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      The truth and facts sometimes hurt says:

      In answer to Purple Rose on a Donkey who posted:
      VOTE UKIP GET LABOUR AND DON’T GET A REFERENDUM

      In all fairness how are UKIP going to get a majority? If they don’t Labour are in No10 and as the person correctly pointed out, no referendum , closer integration to the point of no escape. You have to eradicate Labour first and foremost.

      Indeed UKIP will succeed in failing to achieve their ultimate “one trick pony” objective

      PS there were similar people to you around when the SDP cae about. They achieved the direct opposite of what they set out to achieve as well.

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        A study of history will show you that the Labour party did not exist when Keir Hardie was born. He still went on to become their first MP. The rest is… well, history.

        This is directly comparable with UKIP whereas your comparison with SDP is not so. The formation of the SDP was an intra-party disagreement whereas UKIP addresses concerns felt by the natural supporters of most parties.

        SDP used the saying “breaking the mould”. They barely scratched it and had to merge with the Liberals. Remember the Two Davids leading it? Utterly farcical!

        Vote UKIP :-D

        If you don't then it will carry on for yet another century
        when we both will be pushing up daisies - whilst our
        descendents will be rehearsing the same arguments.
        

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          Voting UKIP utter stupidity says:

          Utter stupidity. By the time 5 years of Labour is up you will be just a small state of the EU and you will be fighting in a war for independence. You will still have no MPs. Labour will ensure you don’t.

          That’s what history shows and that’s where UKIP is leading us.

          Obviously you won’t see the logic so I guess no point in beating my head against a brick wall. when May 15 comes and we get Milliband You will then see where you and your like minded people fucked it up for all of us.

          Millibands first pronouncement will be the people have voted for closer integration and rejected a referendum. He will then plunge us all into the abyss from which there really will be no escape. UKIP will be lucky they are not labelled a terrorist organisation as a result but I suspect you will be.

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          • Maqboul the fool says:

            Or vote Liblabcon and get more of the LibLabCon. Yep, that is sanity and logic, we’ve tried that.

            As Monty Python would say; And now for something completely different.

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          Oh! I’ve heard it all now! You have achieved a new first! Even if your last sentence were to be true and they considered me so dangerous that I would be declared a terrorist organisation, it would make no difference in the slightest.

          The message is huge. I am just tiny and insignificant. But if they want to try, bring it on!

          You have suggested to me, in your very phrasing, that you have not actually read properly what I have been arguing. So in that sense, you are quite correct, you are beating your head against a brick wall, for now.

          Don’t worry, I thought like you do a year or three ago. It takes time. :-)

          Vote UKIP and see the light :-D

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      Bloomers in rain-soaked Bongo Bongo Land says:

      Don’t be daft

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      Oh!, the fun to come. says:

      Shout and yell vote UKIP as much as you want, you should be shouting and yelling at the Scots to vote YES in the illegal referendum next month, illegal because all the other countries that make up Britain were not allowed to vote , we all should be shouting , but the Scots referendum will go a long way in helping England to get out of the EU, Scotland the brave, Scotland the scared if they vote NO next month.

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        Ahead of you here! By well over two years.

        I have been drumming up support for the Shetlands and the other islands to become independent of the yolk which is Scotland’s lardy central belt with the smug, fat, pig-ignorant Salmond gimp leading it. Not to mention the equally fishy Sturgeon.

        Then I will watch his smile drain from his face whilst metaphorically pissing myself. Braveheart? Hahaha fucking ha!

        Vote UKIP :-D

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    • 76
      Hear All See All says:

      I too added my twopenny worth in the previous article:-
      Simon Heffer’s article ignores the UKIP attraction to those who have favoured Labour in the past.
      Many UKIP followers do not want any agreement with with either Cons or Lab.
      Both major parties have pulled the wool over the eyes of the electorate for too long, such that they are now no longer trusted.Recent disclosures of mps behaviour has lost their respect.
      Once trust and respect are lost, there is really no going back.
      UKIP is neither right nor left wing and its leadership will do well to fully realize this before cosying up to another party, alienating many of their members.
      Vote with conviction. Vote UKIP get UKIP.

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        Some people are just so set in two dimensions. They cannot have seen the Nolan chart.

        Or maybe they have seen it and cannot understand it? Who knows?

        Vote UKIP :-D

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          Hear All See All says:

          Not too surprised not previously aware of Nolan. Too academic for my taste.
          Do accept the concepts behind the chart, but cannot see, by way of example of “ordinary” voter, Mrs Duffy (who berated Brown) needing to be aware of such geeky theory, to hit a nail on the head.
          Her voice was not heard by the man with one eye, but no ears. Still no change there.

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          • If we become fixated by the left/right dichotomy, then the aspects of personal freedoms become suppressed. I have a picture type memory so it appeals to me. I can absorb it swiftly. But see your pointy completely.

            Someone, not me clearly, needs to get this truth across in a non-pictorial way. You see the concepts, yourself. They simply need distilling to the point where Mrs Duffy and her like, no disrespect to them BTW, can see the point in their own terms and within their own comfort zone.

            Vote UKIP :-D

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      • 104
        Fishy says:

        VOTE TORY to keep Weird Ed out of No 10

        No going back

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      • 186
        The Growler says:

        Farage would be absolutely bonkers to trust either Liebore or the Conners, they just cannot be trusted as can be seen what happened with the LimpyDems as far as promises are concerned. The LimpyDems are getting the flack for being in with the Cons without the credit for doing what little they were allowed to do.

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    • 106
      Rotherhampoofta says:

      Purple Rose still won’t get it.

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    • 108
      The two Muppets says:

      Do you honestly believe that UKIP would be any different if by magic they
      ever formed a Government ? They would still have their snouts in the
      trough as they do now in Europe . To think otherwise is the same as
      believing in the tooth fairy .

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    A Labour candidate who described the Coalition as “murdering b******s” has been re-instated by the party.

    Deborah Hopkins has said she will fight the next election as the candidate for St Austell and Newquay, after her suspension was lifted by Labour’s National Executive Committee. The suspension came after she issued a series of foul-mouthed Tweets in which she suggested that Government officials were intentionally killing people.
    In one message, she described employees at the Department for Work and Pensions as “evil” and suggested they seek “population control by starvation.”
    In another, she claimed Conservative Party objectives included “killing the sick, starving the disabled, evicting the poor, destroying the hopes of children, stealing billions from the public.”
    Related Articles

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11006057/Labour-candidate-who-called-Tories-murdering-b-s-reinstated.html

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    • 49
      Jimmy says:

      It’s all true. Open your eyes, righties.

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        Oh!, the fun to come. says:

        Jimmy you have a short term memory like a goldfish when it suits you, your lot kept the whitewash manufactures in business for years, just like your lot had the John Lewis list for expenses.

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      Cinna says:

      The Government intentionally killing people. That’s Labour and Andy Burnham’s job, surely?

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    Maqboul the fool says:

    I see another load of asylum seekers are hiding out at the Commonwealth games. They call themselves athletes and are too scared to go back to their Ebola country. Well, tough, not out problem, but no doubt they’ll quietly be given residency.

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      Anonymous says:

      Commonwealth games legacy -

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      Kulak murdered by Marxist filth. says:

      As No country of the Commonwealth is Foreign to any other, tha is why we should treat them as guests.
      !
      That is why Commonwealth countries fo not exchange Ambassadors.

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    Visit Once
    Warehouse Doncaster | iPort, Doncaster, UK

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  8. 11
    Mehdi Hasan says:

    Anyone who uses the UN as a source of intelligence and information is out of their mind or totally delusional.

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    Assadsterroristseatoffthestreets says:

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    Mr Galloway says:

    MUST READ

    Hamas had a major terror attack planned to kill 10s of 1000s using tunnels.They hve made a “lower Gaza”

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/27/stories-from-the-battlefield-hamas-tunnels-used-to-target-israels-kindergartens/?utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2F5TyQRuudXF

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    Ogdens’ Nut Gone Flake says:
    
    
    

    The Commons Speaker’s wife (or slag)
    Waved her legs in a taxi-cab.
    The reason you will see, no doubt –
    White Lightning she’d not go without.
    But what this unobservant bird
    Has failed to notice is how slurred
    Her tweets about the Lords become.
    Innocent faces ? Truth succumbs.

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      albacore-blimey says:

      “”Jealous”.

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        Ogdens’ Nut Gone Flake says:

        I reckon my “forebear” did the hard work.
        Sally doesn’t know it but her life is just imitating art. :)

        Vote UKIP :D

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    • 48
      albacore says:

      How much crap does it take for the penny to drop?
      Parliament ain’t exactly the cream of the crop
      In fact, as pig-swill goes, it don’t make it as slop
      Shut your eyes. Smell the scum that rises to the top

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    elliemae9 says:

    Morning boys and girls.

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  13. 29
    Owen Jones QC says:

    Update from Bullingdon Holiday Camp.

    Disgraced entertainer Rolf Harris who is serving a jail sentence for sex abuse has been spat at in prison.

    The 84-year-old was targeted during an incident at HMP Bullingdon in Oxfordshire.

    A source said that there was a scuffle and the artist and musician was nearby.

    “Someone did aim a spit at him, but he was not spat on, and was not physically hurt,” the source added.

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    • 32
      Visiting Information says:

      Car: For Satellite Navigation purposes, please use OX25 1PZ or Patrick Haugh Road
      •From M40, leave at junction 9 take the A41 towards Bicester/Aylesbury. At first roundabout, turn right & continue on A41 towards Aylesbury. After approx 1/2 mile, at the next roundabout take the third exit signposted A41 Aylesbury. After approx 1 mile, turn right onto B4011 signposted Thame. Continue for approx 2 miles. HMP Bullingdon is the first right turn after the level crossing.
      •FROM M1, leave at junction 15 take the A508 towards Milton Keynes. At Old Stratford take the A422 to Buckingham and then join the A421 to Bicester. Join the A41 towards Aylesbury and continue as above.
      •Car parking is available

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  14. 36
    Brutal says:

    Finally, a Tory MP has been brave enough to speak out and say Is*ael’s behaving brutally and disproportionately. Of course, Peter Luff will now be inundated with hate mail, death threats and the usual invective that greets anyone who dares to criticise Is*ael.

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    • 43
      Expenses Clerk says:

      You mean Peter Luff MP ?

      MPs’ expenses: Peter Luff shopped till he swapped, then started again…

      Peter Luff, a Conservative MP, bought three lavatory seats, three food mixers, two microwaves and 10 sets of bed linen while kitting out his country house and London flat at taxpayers’ expense.

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      • 114
        LibLabCon merchants love taking the piss says:

        The loo seats I can understand (though not condone) – these people are totally full of crap.

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    • 71
      Please says:

      What would be your idea of proportionate? Do tell

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      • 92
        Jesus says:

        Proportional retaliation would be for Israel to fire 3000 rockets randomly back into Gaza.

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      • 98
        8x4 says:

        Well, the thing they should do is give back all the fucking land they stole.
        Then they can pay compensation to the millions of Pals they wronged, just like they demand reparations from Germany to what happened to their grandparents, the fucking hypocrite slime.

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        • 119
          Jesus says:

          I agree. The Palestinians need to give back the land they stole from Israel and start paying repatriations for all the damage and loss of life they have caused. There’s plenty more sand in Jordan for them to squabble over.

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          • 8x4 says:

            You really are one twisted ZioLoon.
            Vast majority of Iz don’t have any blood ties to the place whatsoever, not that it is even relevant. Soon you’ll be whining on about how you “own” Russia and Kazakhstan, you fecking Crackpot.

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          • Jesus says:

            History Shmistory. Right now everything between Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Egypt is Israel. Gaza and the West Bank is Israel. Anyone living on Israeli land should accept Israeli rule. This applies to everyone, even sand chimps, and if they don’t like it they should find another bit of sand to go build their nests in.

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          • 8x4 says:

            Apart from being prone to over a dozen genetic diseases caused by being
            ra cist and not interbreeding, you also suffer from monumental delusions of grandeur, as is common with supremacists.

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        • 185
          Tossa watch says:

          What about the million chosen ones expelled from ayrabik Huntries in 1948, the camel jockeys throwing their toys because they had failed to exterminate the chosen ones in palestine, who after all were only there because of their recent european experiences.

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    • 75
      Norm Normal says:

      Yeah but who sends the death threats? The usual activists posing to make those they dislike look bad?

      Just being J€wish is enough for the other side. The death plots against some celebrities show theirvtrue nature.

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    • 117
      Anonymous says:

      Could he be playing to a muzzer gallery?

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    • 126
      Cinna says:

      And here’s another one., looking for publicity:

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28591799

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      • 136
        AboutBloodyTime says:

        “Tory MP: Gaza bombardment is ‘wrong’

        31 July 2014 Last updated at 18:23 BST

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28591799

        The Israeli bombardment of Gaza “is wrong” and has “no justification in terms of results”, a Tory MP has said.

        Sir Peter Bottomley is the author of one of two letters, sent by Conservative politicians to government ministers expressing concern about Israel’s actions.

        He told the BBC: “If Israel is relying on other people to be silent, they will go on with the lack of proportionality, devastation and the death”.

        Since the offensive began on 8 July, 1,400 Palestinians, mostly civilian, have been killed, along with 58 Israelis, including 56 soldiers and two civilians.”

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        • 176
          8x4 says:

          Oh look, a token Politician pretending he is not corrupt and raking in the $hekel$ for turning a blind eye to 8 Billion quidsworth of arms deals with a despot colony of r acist war criminals.

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  15. 37
    UKIP Mistress says:

    Vote UKIP and get a free spank from me!

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  16. 41
    Peter Luff says:

    When Muslims kill 170,000 Muslims in Syria, nobody gives a damn. When Israelis kill 1,000 Muslims (in self-defense, I might add) the world gets bent out of shape.

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    • 56
      Bibi says:

      Indeed! We were just defending ourselves from those kids playing football on a beach. Their football was probably a nuclear warhead in disguise. They got what they deserved. But even more deserving were the disabled patients in a hospital. We had to defend ourselves from those terrorists confined to beds and wheelchairs. By the way, thank you to all you Brits for supporting me, even though I attended a party in 2006 to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the King David Hotel bombing. You Brits are expendable. Cheerio!

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      • 81
        Norm Normal says:

        Who sends their children out to play during a war?

        Hamas and Hesbollah have launched guided missiles at ships from beaches before.

        Allowing kids to lark around on a beach possibly engaging in behaviour that looks suspicious through long range optics is asking for trouble.

        It’s very simple…if there is a war on don’t send your children out to play. It’s that simple.

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        • 101
          8x4 says:

          Eeer, there is nowhere else for them to go. Their houses have been destroyed by the ZioNAZIs.

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          • The two Muppets says:

            Then stop firing rockets and missiles indiscriminately into Israel.

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          • Jesus says:

            You got me thinking about that for ages, and you are right, there is nowhere safe for the children of Gaza to go. I guess maybe it’s time to give back the soldier and stop firing rockets, becuase, to continue might give the impression you want your own children to die. And if so, if the Palestinians are happy to bring death to their own children, why should Israel give a crap about them?

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          • Watcher says:

            How else can they defend themselves against the ZioLoon land thieves.
            What with Conservatives here not lifting a finger regardless of what the ZioNAZIs do, they might as well keep firing these alleged “rockets”

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          • Jesus says:

            Fine, keep dying then. Eventually all you will have left to defend is a pile of rubble and the world’s biggest cemetary. At least you had more hashtags than us on twitter. That’s a sort of victory I suppose.

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          • 8x4 says:

            You mean like declaring war on Germany in 1933 and then forever whining about the consequences ?
            Chews keep likening Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto.

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  17. 53
    RED ED - SON OF BROWN says:

    WE’RE DESPERATE.

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  18. 68
    O'Deer says:

    Is it my human right to eat other primates?

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  19. 69
    Karma says:

    …..Bacteria and viruses will do the job of some wishful thinking ,one day!….”Is that day approaching”?
    I wish the viruses to do their best,could be fun!

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  20. 70
    Anonymous says:

    The Uber taxi app is “competing unfairly” with London’s black cabs, senior Labour MP Margaret Hodge says.

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  21. 80
    It's Official! Israel actions in Gaza shithole absolutely justified and right says:

    Yep, Paddy Wankstain has condemned them.

    What more proof could possibly be required?

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  23. 96
    Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:

    TAX,TAX,TAX,TAX !!!

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    Scotland has no unity except on the map – Robert Louis Stevenson

    A truly great Scot.

    Contextually, his words were written within only a few years of the country having been mapped in its entirety for the first time.

    Vote UKIP :-D

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    • 141
      Rob Roy says:

      Scotland has nothing to lose ………………

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      • 143
        William Wallace says:

        If we are good little boys and girls and vote to stay, David Cameron has promised to leave us alone to raise and collect and spend all our taxes.

        He has even said we can manage our own hospitals schools and universities.

        What could possibly be fairer than this as we stay in the sterling union to boot.

        If we vote to stay and Cameron does not deliver I would not like to be in his shoes.

        Scotland will never be subservient to England again.

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    • 146
      Johnny Divers says:

      Stevenson was a man who married a divorced American woman and lived in the Pacific Ocean clearly oblivious to perfidious England .

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      • 153
        Catriona Balfour says:

        UNDER the wide and starry sky
        Dig the grave and let me lie:
        Glad did I live and gladly die,
        And I laid me down with a will.

        This be the verse you grave for me:
        Here he lies where he long’d to be;
        Home is the sailor, home from the sea,
        And the hunter home from the hill.

        Now that is real Poetry !

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      • 155

        Many of the greatest Scots have left their country.

        Who can blame them? Be honest!

        Vote UKIP :-D

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        • 170
          Jim says:

          ..and many haven’t.

          Has no-one great ever left England, or Wales?

          Is your inference that no-one great is left here, or that no-one great should be?

          Or is it that this place is such a shit-hole no-one would want to be?

          If you think that living in one of the sunniest places in Britain with a tropical climate, white sandy beaches and within the most uninhabited areas of Europe, able to fish for atlantic salmon or shoot wild venison, is bad, then I pity your narrow mindedness.

          The fact that we have virtually zero state interference, amazing wildlife, stunning scenery, a relaxed way of life, great roads, friendly & helpful neighbours, and a lot of wealth, whilst being able to tap into employing some of the cleverest people in the world, is just a wee additional benefit to the above.

          My guess is that you were thinking of the wee strip through the middle.

          I’ll gie you the tar, if you’ve got the brush!

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          • You are reading my post out of context.

            I often quote David Hume on here. You may be aware of his Fork…

            My travels have taken me to every inhabited island bar one. I have a great deal of love for the place and its peoples, even for the wee strip through the middle.

            That central belt is the now the metaphorical inheritor of the previous savagery between the MacLeans and the Campbells.

            But as you say there is much beauty in the lochs, the isles and up the bens.

            But there are one or two shortfalls which I am sure you might admit to.

            * I swam for almost a mile in the 25° waters of the Adriatic yesterday. Last time I swam off the Isle of Harris (at Beitearsaig, on the Bagh Huisinis, have you been there?) it was 7° and I did not stay in for long…

            * The overweight stage of so many in Glasgow and surrounds is distressing. No wonder their average age is the lowest in the UK, at just over 60. Tragic.

            * The rain does get on your tits eventually. RLS’s relocation, ultimately to Samoa, is perfectly understandable.

            * The hold that socialism has taken in Scotland is distressing.

            But I believe that the people have a choice and they will exercise this soon.

            I also support the independence of the Shetland Islanders from Scotland and hope you will add your voice to this! :-)

            Vote UKIP :-D

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          • Jim says:

            SC;
            Perhaps it was out of context, but the inference was still there that the place is not worth staying in, depressing, rampant socialism aside, I give you.

            My irk was with the fact that one can find shite or gold in most places, it just depends where you are looking.

            The socialism which exists here is indeed depressing, but it is a throwback to the clan days to which you allude. (never trust a campbell!) The majority of Scots have a pathological desire to percieve wrongdoing, and attempt to right it, no matter how deluded the path. That is a problem, I grant you, but equally it has enabled us Scots to have a disproportionate level of success and invention throughout our more enlightened times, and to a lesser degree modern times.

            We may fuck things up occasionally, but bejeezus we will give hammer and tongs for our beliefs.

            I swam off a sandy beach yesterday, here on the Scottish riviera, and whilst I didn’t have a thermometer strapped to my ankle, it was warm enough to be pleasant, but definately not 25deg. The lack of civilisation and a beautiful sunset made up for the discrepancy in temperature.

            Glasgow fatties are not my concern, I live in the country, am not fat and my missus is 30, Polish and ex swimwear model, so I get to see a nice figure whenever I want. (That really is true, even my pals tell me I’m punching above my weight.)

            The lower life expectancy here is shocking, after 15 years of devolution that is an embarrasment. The waste I see in the NHS is terrible. They scream Westminster doesn’t give us more of our own money back, I reckon they need to be more efficient.

            And yes I’ve been to Harris, sailed past it only 3 weeks ago en-route up the caley canal to Bergen, via Faroe, Orkney and Shetland.

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    Latest bit of R’ussian spin – which may be ours – U’kraine and b’allistic missiles.

    D-W ran a story the other day in response to a CNN item in which unnamed US officials and N’ATO confirmed that the US had evidence of ballistic missile launches from U’kraine government positions against separatist areas.

    That original story seems to have been pulled by DW, however ITAR-TASS coverage remains:

    h**p://en.itar-tass.com/world/743261

    R’ussian media have obviously lapped this up, as it clears them for moving ballistic missile systems to the Ukraine border, which they have been doing. RT are having much fun with it.

    According to R’ussia, U’kraine is now a rogue State, and pose a ballistic missile threat, and don’t care about collateral damage.

    However, U’kraine has not only denied the story but have claimed they do not have ballistic missiles.

    h**p://www.dw.de/ukraine-denies-using-ballistic-missiles/a-17827342?maca=en-rss-en-all-1573-rdf

    h**p://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-day-163-belarus-to-host-talks-between-ukraine-and-russia/#3593

    h**p://en.interfax.com.u’a/news/general/216624.html

    NB: No images have yet emerged of damage caused by the alleged firing of these missiles. Their after effects would be hard to miss and perfect propaganda for R’ussia.

    Perhaps T’ed C’ruz has the real explanation for what is going on:

    E’uropean anti-missile defence is seen as anti-R’ussian. Obviously if U’kraine is portrayed a credible threat, that notion is discredited.

    h**p://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2014/07/30/is-ballistic-missile-defense-in-europe-anti-russian-many-conservatives-think-so/

    E’urope should have an anti-ballistic missile system in place on its eastern borders, but such a system should be developed by E’uropean firms.

    Vote UKIP :-D

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  26. 130

    Get rid of Bercow – he is a twat

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  27. 140
    Phil from Pentonville says:

    Mr Didgery Doo is causing nothing but problems in our prisons with yet another fight breaking out.

    Just chop his testicles off and release him.

    It will save no end of aggro and expense.

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    • 148
      Star Strucked Smith says:

      Will there be any more charges brought against Mr Harris ?

      Was that a stampede I heard ?

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  28. 145
    Bibi says:

    We shall kill them on their beaches, we shall kill them in their homes, we shall kill them in their hospitals, we shall kill them in their schools. And no one will dare stop us, for we have the freedom to kill whoever we want. Like all the Brits we slaughtered at the King David Hotel, the 60th anniversary celebration of which I attended. And you gullible Brits still love me. Life is great.

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    Rail Freight Intermodal Terminals is a co-business of iPort Doncaster UK. iPort Doncaster is a largest business ever UK.

    Visit Once Please
    Warehouse Doncaster | iPort, Doncaster, UK

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