July 23rd, 2014

Another LibDem Scandal, Another Warning Letter Ignored

Last time David Ward hit the headlines for his comments about “the Jews”, the Fink wrote this letter to Nick Clegg warning him “Mr Ward will make another offensive remark, probably worse than this one. It’s just a matter of time”.

November 29, 2013

Dear Deputy Prime Minister,

As I hope you know by now, I have great respect for you. I believe it took substantial courage and imagination to agree to the coalition deal and to see it through in the way that you have. So I write now in full confidence of your goodwill and your willingness and ability to do what is right. It’s about David Ward, your MP for Bradford East. You’ve got to do something and you need to get on with it.

At the beginning of the year, Mr Ward told Holocaust survivors like my mother that they had failed to learn the lesson of experience. They should treat people better and they don’t. He kept pressing this opinion, and talking about Jews, until you felt that you needed to withdraw the party whip. However, as a compromise, the whip was taken away from him only while the House wasn’t sitting. I was a bit disappointed by this, but I saw the problem. You didn’t want a huge party row with him about Israel and you didn’t want to lose an MP. You thought perhaps that a warning would do.

Mr Ward will make another, probably worse, remark. It’s just a matter of time. Fair enough, I suppose. Not heroic, but fair enough. The point of my letter is to urge upon you the thought that this approach, however reasonable you thought it was, hasn’t worked. Mr Ward has now given himself of the opinion that the Board of Deputies is powerful and well financed. Your party has dismissed this as a flattering observation but I think we both know better than this. It is a classic and freighted description of a Jewish lobby that reflects Mr Ward’s view that, for financial reasons, Jews have acquired great power.

By themselves it would be easy to dismiss the comments, but the comments are not made by themselves. They form part of a pattern of remarks deeply offensive to Jews. I am sure you would never conclude that Jews don’t matter because there aren’t many of us and we don’t live where you need us. Or that Mr Ward’s constituents will support him, and Jewish feelings are collateral damage in his election campaign. But perhaps you think this a niche problem that will go away. This is an error.

Mr Ward will make another offensive remark, probably worse than this one. It’s just a matter of time. He will do it closer to an election, in a more highly charged atmosphere, and you will be put in a very difficult position. He may also tie his remarks closely to his view of Israel, making action just as necessary but more awkward. Your problem will be less the comments themselves than that you will be made to look weak. You will get stuck between the media on the one side and your local party organisation on the other. It will be very uncomfortable indeed.

I am not suggesting that acting even now is easy. The Board decided not to complain and you may feel it is difficult to act unilaterally. So I am sympathetic. Yet it is far better to make a choice now, while you are in control, while the decision to escalate is yours, than to leave it until later when it is likely to be more difficult. It is a mistake to contract this out to the Board, because your problem is not this incident. It is Mr Ward’s pattern of behaviour.

If these strategic thoughts don’t convince you, let me try something a bit more direct. Mr Ward’s comments are simply not acceptable. You didn’t go into politics, surely, to stand by someone saying that Jewish money makes them powerful. Or to compare Jews to Nazis. You can’t allow yourself to be responsible for that. And you don’t have to. Because, guess what, you are the leader.

Daniel Finkelstein

Once again, Clegg received a letter warning him that a prominent member of his party was behaving inappropriately, and was likely to re-offend. Once again, Clegg ignored the warnings…


101 Comments

  1. 1
    concrete pump says:

    Go Finks…..

  2. 2
    ZW says:

    Who the fck is “David Finkelstein” and why should anyone care what he says?
    David Ward was elected by his constituents and Finkelstein is a nobody apparently apparently working for a despot foreign country.

  3. 3
    ZW says:

    Go “home” Finks…..

  4. 4
    The LimpDims will be dead and gone in 9 months' time says:

    “Once again, the LimpDims received a letter warning them that the leader of their party was behaving inappropriately, and was likely to re-offend. Once again, the LimpDims ignored the warnings…”

  5. 5
    bergen says:

    Presumably Ward thinks his comments will please his enriched multicultural constituents in Bradford and that the leadership will confine themselves to hot air lest the seat is lost.

  6. 6
    David Ward says:

    does my bomb look big in this?

  7. 7
    ... says:

    They turned hypocrisy into an artform.

  8. 8
    ... says:

    From whom? Warning of what?

  9. 9
    lancasrian spin says:

    Don’t take no sheet Wardy. Keep telling da trooth!

  10. 10
    Tra la la la laaa says:

    Who the fck is ZW and why should anyone care what he says?

  11. 11
    Anon says:

    “You didn’t go into politics, surely, to stand by someone saying that J3wish money makes them powerful”

    You don’t need to be in politics to know that.

  12. 12
    Tra la la la laaa says:

    Warnings from pretty much everyone about his lack of leadership and principles?

  13. 13
    Maqboul the fool says:

    Who or what is the Fink, and more importantly, who cares?

  14. 14
    David Ward says:

    Lufthansa stopped flying to Tel Aviv, but I can fly Frankfurt-Karachi today despite bombing of airport recently

  15. 15
    Whippersnapper2 says:

    Ware id a proven CNUT what more is there to say?

  16. 16
    EeeYepBl­­owing Whistles says:

    Anyone who hates bigots, cares.

  17. 17
    Corporal Fagin says:

    Them Jaws don’t like it up’em.

  18. 18
    EeeYepBl­­owing Whistles says:

    How about “P45 for Mr Ward”.

  19. 19
    Neil Down says:

    This is an issue the left simply can’t be sensible on. It goes right to their enormous victim complexes.

  20. 20
    EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

    ZW sounds like zio-whistles! Don’t listen to him, he is a zio-shill!

  21. 21
    Jaws says:

    Fucking Roy Scheider.

  22. 22
    Oh, really? says:

    Ward. Another reason why the loss of the LibDems will be a good thing for British politics.

    Soon the LibDems will be the home of nought but some ragtag, darting eyed, beardy weirdies, wearing woolly jumper and fulminating that it is all the fault of the Jews, and their angular, smelly female counterparts.

  23. 23
    misself 'imself says:

    yep – well done finkers!

  24. 24
    Anonymous says:

    Send anything to the government that predicts a death and they always ignore it.

    The story is about what happened when the predicted death did occur.

    Not long now until 2015.

  25. 25
    Anonymous says:

    David Ward appears to have imagined what it was like to be a Palestinian under present circumstances and asked himself what he would think if he were one. Guido Fawkes seems to be suggesting that this is a terrible thing to do.

    If we turn it around, we might ask whether the writer of “Guido Fawkes” would, if he was a Palestinian under present circumstances, just sit there and be hit by missiles?

    Why not ask David Ward to give his view about what he would do if he were an Israeli under present circumstances? Perhaps he would say that he would be supporting the aggression against the Palestinians? Perhaps he would not, but if nobody asks him then we will not know. Would that not be more constructive than banging on in a way which allows some people to assume that Guido’s position is just as one-sided as Guido is trying to suggest David Ward’s is?

  26. 26
    EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

    What is the difference between supporter of Israel and a supporter of The sand terrorists?

    Supporters of Israel will never know what it is like to lose.

    Supporters of sand terror will never know anything else.

  27. 27
    albacore says:

    What’s important is that Parliament takes note
    Of owt at all said by any foreign scrote
    The last folks it ever needs to listen to
    Are the British now it’s owned by the E U

  28. 28
    Shooty* says:

    Oh… Bradford. Right, now I get it.

    Alan Ackbar.

  29. 29

    Who d f*** is Danny the Jooboy and why d f*** do I care what he says? Just another f**** Jooboy. If the Jooboy killers do not like it up em they should stop the carnage in

  30. 30
    MPsSubservientToFriendsofIsrael says:

    Working hard for your shekels this week Guido…

    So, whilst hundreds of civilians are being killed in Gaza, you are fixated with a nonentity MP’s stupid Tweets ?

    Pathetic.

    You need to keep some perspective.

    An all time low point on order-order ?

  31. 31
    Paula Abdul says:

    “These people cannot be trusted, they represent a danger to the world and spread hate and division. We should have nothing to do with them” said a Hamas spokesman when asked to comment on the LibDems

  32. 32
    Ghost of the right. says:

    Jew hating is very popular amongst Liberals, though naturally they dress it up as concern for Gaza

    As for Finkelstein, he’s one of the tossers who helped turn the Tories into the Lib Dems with women. He can go fuck himself, which I’ve no doubt he would if he could.

  33. 33
    David Weird says:

    If I were an Is’ri , I’d gas myself.

  34. 34
    Owen Jones QC says:

    Can I suggest that David Ward MP and George GallowayMP undertake a fact finding visit to Gaza. The sooner the better!

  35. 35
    BiBi the Boss says:

    Get off this blog and back on the front line, now! I’ll be having words with your CO later. Little putz – does he fink he can do politics?

  36. 36
    EeeYepBl­­owing Whistles says:

    IMPOSTOR !

  37. 37
    applecore says:

    albacore for Poet Laureate!

  38. 38
    EeeYepBl­­owing Whistles says:

    Do you know why hundreds of Palestinians are NOT being killed in the West Bank this week. Think about it numbnuts.

  39. 39
    adolf says:

    its nice to see thousands of palestinians in london marching on the Israeli embassy, shows they really care about Gaza, not enough for them to actually bugger off back there and live in the place but enough to cost us a fortune in policing and disruption for absolutely no point at all
    But nice that labour let thousands of them settle here, hopefully they left the rockets at home

  40. 40
    Anonymous says:

    “You’ve got to do something and you need to get on with it.”
    Challenge the greatest intellects from both sides, to publically demonstrate the validity of their respective narratives. No problem for either, sic, as they are (both) absolutely correct and comprehensive in regard to content. ‘Though if that task proves too difficult, simply allow them to produce the infallible means they used to confirm that accuracy to their own minds. When that turns out to be impossible. Give them pen, paper, and ask them to reverse engineer the practical methodology by which unadulterated reality finds its way into the human brain. Hopefully they may fathom out that it can’t, never could, nor ever did. So finally they will have cracked it, and appreciate precisely what’s going on.

  41. 41
    Manuel says:

    No, Clegg did NOT ignore the warnings! He full well knew that Ward would do it again, and he made sure he had the party organisation on his side for the second round, hence why we have all the stuff in Lib Dem Voice etc. Clegg will get rid of him this time for good, as he is now in a stable enough position to do so.

  42. 42
    Manuel says:

    He’s still a pretty weak leader of course for not getting rid of him the first time round…

  43. 43
    still walking into darkness says:

    No dissent allowed against the elites, Guido has sold out which is all the more ironic given he has nothing to sell.

  44. 44
    Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

    Nick Clegg is a very busy man. he cannot possibly be expected to deal with every complaint that crosses his desk. Boaz.

    http://order-order.com/2014/06/27/hancock-victim-its-disgusting-that-no-one-listened-to-me/

    http://order-order.com/2013/03/07/clegg-dont-tell-me-about-libdem-sex-claims/

  45. 45
    TF123 says:

    Is this really the best you can do on Photoshop?!!

    Time for a doctored photo of Putin eating a hamster

  46. 46
    adolf says:

    does the bbc have stock footage of a woman in a black sheet wailing away with her hands raised, or is it a different one each time.

  47. 47
    Cynic says:

    Nice of Ward to use the German phrase ‘Ich bin ein’ to suck up to his Moslem voters

    Was he unaware of the irony in that?

    What next? “Thousand year Caliphate”?

  48. 48
    E L Whisty (Head Groundsman) says:

    If I were Palestinian, I rather think that I would think ‘I need to get myself and my loved ones out of this shithole’. Then I would think that I would go somewhere that I could get an education and healthcare. Maybe go to University, study carpentry, dentistry or education, get a job, find someone to love, buy a house, make babies and raise them.

    Call me stupid but I don’t really see much point in gathering for group portraits with balaclavas over our fizzogs. Nor killing anybody really, if it can possibly be avoided. Probably comes from having been in the killing people business for too long (albeit remarkably unproductive).

  49. 49
    Cynic says:

    I’m told he much prefers babies

  50. 50
    E L Whisty (Head Groundsman) says:

    What does frightened sand look like?

  51. 51
    Mr Woy says:

    Maybe all the freedom loving Palestinian supporters should take a stroll around the various peace loving countries of the middle east and see what a paradise it is in Syria/Iran/Iraq/Lebanon etc. Either that or they can stay at home and talk bollocks.

  52. 52
    Court of public opinion says:

    Did you foget where?

  53. 53
    Court of public opinion says:

    Nothing like a crisis in Gaza to bring out all the lefties. Personally I’d pack ‘em all off to Gaza along with the ones Labour let into this country and let them actually DO something instead of sitting here wringing their hands.

  54. 54
    Hello Shlomo. says:

    Au contraire, I have great respect for the Naturei Karta chews and ones that don’t give a hoot about the vile despot racist colony and don’t undermine western democracies with their conniving. I am not “a donkey to serve you”, unlike the unprincipled slime infesting the HoP.

  55. 55
    Court of public opinion says:

    Yes. the one thing they all have in commom is The Religion of Peace.

  56. 56
    MPsSubservientToFriendsofIsrael says:

    Wot, this Tweet story is just a cover, cos Guido is actually saving the West Bank behind the scenes ? D*ckhead.

  57. 57
    Hay? says:

    Indeed. Shouldn’t he be doing his national service with the IDF?

  58. 58
    Hay? says:

    So, why are most ZioLoons not living in Izzrael then?
    I gather quite a lot of Izzies would like to leave too.

  59. 59
    geordieboy says:

    Limp Dems gone in 9 months: By the grace of God I fucking hope so, as Labour luvvie Patrick Stewart would say “Make it Happen”

  60. 60
    adolf says:

    seemingly they at least have jobs, or maybe those couple of thousand protesters just took the day off?

  61. 61
    Hay? says:

    How do you tell sand terror from, say, nice sand? Should I ask my builder if his sand has terror?

  62. 62
    Court of public opinion says:

    One could say the definition of insanity is to keep repeating the same action and failing every time.

    Ergo the Palestinians must be insane. How many times have they attacked Israel and each time the result is the same. Any norma lpeople would have learned that lesson by now.

  63. 63
    Court of public opinion says:

    Who is this Alan Ackbar I keep hearing about?

  64. 64
    Hay? says:

    I don’t get what Ward is supposed to have done?

    It’s only the ZioNutters, all full of adrenaline from killing 125+ children, offended about someone telling the truth again.

  65. 65
    EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

    Ill give you IMPOSTOR, you IMPOSTOR you!

  66. 66
    EeeYepBlowing Care Bears says:

    We care a lot.

  67. 67
    Bored says:

    Conversly, Izrael is a haven of democracy, kindness, tolerance and generosity. That’s why most Chews don’t live there. Oh, hang on…

  68. 68
    Bored says:

    Ward hasn’t done anything wrong, so why should he?

  69. 69
    Jesus says:

    The zio loons do live in Israel, that’s why you don’t see 1000s of them marching pointlessly round the UK with Socialist Worker banners achieving nothing. They are too busy on the front lines winning.

  70. 70
    Spartacus says:

    too long to bother to read

  71. 71
    Court of public opinion says:

    Court of public opinion says Bush and Blair should be tried for War Crimes

  72. 72
    Court of public opinion says:

    Quite possibly, if they didn’t have to share a border with a bunch of raving lunatics who enjoy getting their own people killed.

  73. 73
    Tel E Caster says:

    “I’m not an anti-Semite but…”

  74. 74
    Court of public opinion says:

    Yes they should leave…so lang as we aren’t stupid enouhj to let them come here. We have enough loonies to go around already.

  75. 75

    Our first jihadist MP!

  76. 76
    Court of public opinion says:

    Get your own f’cking nom de plune.

  77. 77
    Cinna says:

    No doubt the first of many if they think it’ll get them re-elected.

  78. 78
    Tel E Caster says:

    Also, I might think twice about firing rockets at a nation that completely outmatches me in terms of firepower; and I certainly wouldn’t expect my wife and kids to stand in the way of any return fire.

  79. 79
    Tel E Caster says:

    It comes from the same archive that has that teddy-bear lying in rubble.

  80. 80
    Tel E Caster says:

    In that case, how much adrenaline must be coursing through the Syrians’ veins right now?

  81. 81
    Jeremy Thorpe, David Steele, Cyril Smith, Mark Oaten, Lord Rennard, David Laws, Simon Hughes, says:

    We could not agree more Handy. How could he possibly deal with all these complaints when he is a two hatted Leader of the Party and deputy Prime Minister. Jahbulon.

  82. 82
    Jesus says:

    More like a thousand years of getting whooped by Israel and making love to goats. The brief period in history where they had the intellectual and technological superiority to make the caliphate happen was a blip and will never occur again.

  83. 83
    Mr Woy says:

    that’s right, no religious tolerance in Israel or equality for women or gays what with fgm and suicide bombers that place must be a hell or a place to live. Oh wait, could that be somewhere else maybe.

  84. 84
    Anonymous says:

    Money makes anyone more powerful, you moron. It’s not exlusivel to the people you particularly despise.

  85. 85
    Anonymous says:

    I doubt they think much of you.

  86. 86
    Anonymous says:

    By the same token, why the fu**k IS David Ward shooting his mouth off on a country some distance away at every opportunity when it’s nothing to do with him?

  87. 87

    If the idiots were not launching rockets from gaza the insignificant pisshole would not be worth ‘attacking’ , neither in terms of the munitions wasted nor the lives lost by the IDF .

  88. 88
    Anonymous says:

    Or blowing up the bloody transport network after they’ve made frothingly insane suicide videos.

  89. 89
    Anonymous says:

    Ignore Kevin, he only talks bollocks

  90. 90
    Sick of it all says:

    Insane, yes. But also calculated. There are around 2 million people, all of whom (Hamas top-brass excepted) are considered utterly expendable. The more killed and photographed or filmed in the process the better in their view, because it’s a fabulous propaganda tool and they know the frothing left-wing ghouls over here will support them unconditionally. And keep a scorecard, as if the feckin’ World Cup were still on.

  91. 91
    Anonymous says:

    Indeed – remind me which Middle Eastern country it is that has the only Gay Pride in the region? Answer: not Gaza.

  92. 92
    One, 2, miss a few, 99, 100! says:

    Just reading about the Demographics of the Israeli Population and 25% of them are either Arabs or Other. I find it strange how 20+% of Arabs that live there seem to be able to live in peace, yet on the other side of the barriers they cannot…

    If Mr Ward seems to think that Palestinian rockets aren’t worth retaliating against then I’m sure he wouldn’t mind holidaying over there during the summer, with his family of course….

  93. 93
    Bob cuntface Crow says:

    I know this thread is about Ward but really,fuck Ward, fuck Israel ,fuck the Pallys.What about a bit of more digging from the Goverment on the mossie brainwashing in this country.That is the real threat.

  94. 94
    ANON says:

    Presumably his critics would murder innocent Palestinian children if they were Israelis?

  95. 95
    Bob cuntface Crow says:

    They would have grown into terrorists.

  96. 96
    Mr Woy says:

    Hopefully with a bulls eye painted on his head.

  97. 97
  98. 98
    Jacqui says:

    That is why I joined the LibDems and married Handy. Oi loikes em pervy.

  99. 99
    s berlusconi77 says:

    GUIDO AND TEAM .. SORT IT !!!

    Sent from my iPad

  100. 100
    Peter Ellis says:

    Keep taking the Shekels Guido, while you can.

  101. 101
    stushie says:

    NO .Not a foreign country. Just The Times where he can arrogate to himself the right to publicise Israel’s protestations of ‘The Right to Exist’ (as if any rational person thinks differently). Methinks there is a massive conflict of interest here & certainly journalistic imbalance.


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