July 18th, 2014

Russia Today Journalist Sensationally Resigns Over Putin “Lies”

Sara Firth, a British journalist at Russia Today, has confirmed to MediaGuido that she today resigned in protest at the channel’s coverage of the Ukraine plane crash.

RT is funded by the Kremlin…

UPDATE: Press Gazette has these quotes from Firth:

“Yesterday when the story broke you get the kick in your stomach when you’re going to get the facts and it’s this huge story. And I walked into the newsroom and they were running an eye-witness account of God-knows who the person was blaming the Ukrainian government, and it is such a volatile situation. I said [in a previous interview], if I was asked to burn the facts and not tell the truth I’d be a goner, and so I’m gone… it’s the level of disrespect for the facts that really bugs me. And so I made my decision yesterday when we started covering the story and this morning woke up and I just knew that I can’t go back in any more. The thing is once I made the decision, you have to be honest with yourself and it’s so difficult…. Once you start telling the truth it’s brutal.”


199 Comments

  1. 1
    Penfold says:

    Always a Red Letter Day when one of the useful idiots has a Damascene Conversion.

  2. 2
    Ockham's Razor says:

    At least someone believes there is such a thing as truth left.

  3. 3
    Where else? says:

    Watching RT twist the facts to suit an agenda reminds me of somewhere else i occasionally visit on the internet…mmm now what is it called…

    ordure odor?

  4. 4
    Maximus says:

    Given the interest in the story, she appears somewhat economical with it.

  5. 5
    Winston says:

    Of course they are biased. Just like the BBC. last night Newsnight had the Ukrainian ambassador and 3 anti-Russian/Putin commentators discussing the tragedy, firmly blaming Putin. How is that for fairness? Then we have all of Murdoch’s lackeys, like Guido, blaming Putin. But who started this mess? The EU and the yanks with their regime change agenda?

    How long before Guido is told to smear Farage on this?

  6. 6
    Flight Watch says:

    Russia Today is a cauldron of bullshit. The only people that take it seriously are deluded conspiracy theorists. Other RT journos have resigned citing the same reasons.

    It’s about as believable as Press TV, KCNA of North Korea or the Daily Mirror.

  7. 7
    NO SEATS NIGEL says:

    i’m resigning in may next year when we don’t win any seats

  8. 8
    A tale of two state broadcasters says:

    “RT is funded by the Kremlin…”

    The BBC is funded by the UK Government.

  9. 9
    Unbalanced Views says:

    Telling the truth, no matter what country you’re in, is a dangerous pass time – it can’t have been easy, so she deserves some little respect I would think ?

  10. 10
    Have you shit yourself? says:

    BBC. Funded by us, fuckwit

  11. 11
    TF123 says:

    Truth is a movable feast for everyone in politics and in the media. Look no further.
    We shall never know what happened to these 298 unfortunates on the Malaysian flight because the media and politicians are too busy creating thick choking smoke-screens to satisfy their own agendas.

    One important question is to ask “Cui Bono?” No-one I believe has benefited here. This was a mistake on someone’s part, and a costly one for the 298 on the flight. There are too many trigger-happy types in the Ukraine vicinity and finding someone uniquely to blame is a sport only for politicians and media.

  12. 12
    itard says:

    where is the “sensational” bit? its dull at best.

  13. 13
    Fly from Soup says:

    at least the name of the journal is appropriate

  14. 14
    Fly from Soup says:

    yes – rather naive too

  15. 15
    Anonymous says:

    When will the West develop a backbone and act as this lady has ?

  16. 16
    lojolondon says:

    RT gives another side to the story – the enquiring mind will watch it along with other sources to get the full picture.

    On R2 today there was an experienced pilot who said it was reckless to fly where the plane went, just a couple of feet above a warzone, believing they were safe. Careless / reckless endangerment, whatever, if I lost someone on that plane I would have called my lawyer already.

    PS. ‘There’s going to be hell to pay and there should be!': John McCain warns of ‘incredible repercussions’ if Russian forces or pro-Russian separatists downed MH17

    Hilarious! How many times have civilians been killed by American supporters with American weapons for being anywhere near a warzone? What a hypocrite! I am waiting for the MSM to call him out on this one!

  17. 17
    Odds favour ? says:

    Has Coffee House already decided MH17 was shot down in error?

    “It’s not the first civilian flight to have been shot down in error,” it says.

    Headline says “A history of passenger planes shot down”.

    For some reason, it doesn’t list the two civilian flights downed by guerrillas in the 1970s Rhodesia/Zimbabwe civil war.

    One of those attacks, both of which were carried out by the Zimbabwe Peoples Liberation Army (ZIPRA), is infamous for what followed.

    Ten survivors were massacred by the rebels.

    Coffee House article here:

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/07/civilian-plane-crashes-through-the-eyes-of-the-spectator/

    ZIPRA attacks documented here:

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2014/07/17/332318322/a-brief-history-of-civilian-planes-that-have-been-shot-down

  18. 18
    A tale of two state broadcasters says:

    You obviously do not know the funding mechanism then.

    The amount of funding the BBC receives is set by the Government of the UK.

    The monies are collected by a private company but are officially classed as a tax, that is why you can be jailed for non payment.

    The monies are then given to the UK Government treasury who pass on the set amount to the British Broadcasting Corporation.

    If you can see a difference between taxpayer funded and state funded then you have hallucinations.

  19. 19
    A tale of two state broadcasters says:

    Well said

  20. 20
    Polonium says:

    Fancy popping in for a coffee, Sara?

  21. 21
    Flight Watch says:

    The number of western journalists working for Putin’s mouthpiece, thus giving it credibility has annoyed me for years. I was amazed to see people with pedigrees like Rory Suchet dolling out crap for Russia Today.

    Your integrity is fucked Suchet you Hunt.

  22. 22
    Dave Spart says:

    Russia Today Putin’s Mouthpiece Shocker

  23. 23
    I like it too. says:

    +1

  24. 24
    Jabba Le Chat says:

  25. 25
    Dave Spart says:

    Where is RT’s blog so I can question their “facts” ?

  26. 26
    Dave Spart says:

    FSB out in force today.

    Guido tavarich, are they using VPN or are you getting a lot of hits from Moscow these days?

  27. 27
    Dave Spart says:

    They can be paid very well, at least until the sanctions start biting into Putin’s private investments.

  28. 28
    Dorkass says:

    fact-free

  29. 29
    Filbert Gibbler - for it is he! says:

    If you feel so strongly about a silly programme like Newsnight, then why do you bother arguing the issues?

    You really do know, don’t you, that Newsnight is for trolls, and gives them an ‘interest’ in life, so why don’t you calm down and consider more important issues, like growing tomatoes, or bringing up a family!

  30. 30
    lolathebeautiful says:

    “Once you start telling the truth it’s brutal.” A novelty never likely to be introduced by the BBC, The gummint, the quangocracy etc etc (and especially the Liar dems.

  31. 31
    Dave Spart says:

    Just like RT. LOL

  32. 32
    Spartacus says:

    talking of facts, what was that american drone doing on the border?

  33. 33
    The British media are cunts says:

    If she cares about the truth I suggest she stays away from the BBC and anything owned by Murdoch.

  34. 34
    I'm a shill for the shills says:

    Sheesh, another journo who was quite happy to take the Russian Ruble suddenly has a change of heart. As said, RT is A source of information; it has its clear bias: it’s more lefty than the BBC but lefty socialist, not lefty liberal; it hates Israel; it likes to do bad reports about social conditions in the UK and US. But so what; it covers stories others don’t bother covering, and allows libertarians on who don’t get a voice in Western media. handle with care, like everything else these days, even Order-order.

  35. 35
    Iran Air Flight 655 says:

    You will be waiting for ever.

  36. 36

    He could work for the BBC if he doesn’t mind spouting lies for Labour

  37. 37
    Spartacus says:

    Frederick Forsythe would tell you this was shot down by the Americans to stir up world opinion against Russia. Overt regime change

  38. 38
    Nick Clegg says:

    Me too.

  39. 39
    Spartacus says:

    Its coverage of riots in Spain Portugal and Greece against eu austerity are hardly bullshit.

    Oh, I forgot, it is not on the BBC therefore it did not happen.

    So much for biased coverage.

  40. 40
    Not too bright either. says:

    Blimey. That lady is naïve.

  41. 41
    Flight Watch says:

    It would only be reckless if you already knew SA11/SA17 systems were actively targetting aircraft.

    IATA has already stated that the airspace was considered safe and was not restricted.

    If the Russian Rebels started using these systems they should have issued a warning to civilian air traffic. The Syrian Rebels closed airspace under their control over 12 months ago.

    It was up to Russia or Russian Rebels to issue a warning if they were going to start using these weapons.

    Ukraine hasn’t lost any missiles or systems to the rebels and hasn’t fired any missiles. They have offered access to international auditors.

  42. 42
    Winston says:

    Translation, please.

  43. 43
    Flight Watch says:

    They don’t carry air to air missiles, nice try tin foil head.

  44. 44
    Small minds think alike says:

    When did you last resign a job on a point of principle?

  45. 45
    reading is optional says:

    Is she in the know who did this tragedy then, if she is surely she should tell the UN.

  46. 46

    Better that’s she’s discovered a sense of principle late rather than not at all.

  47. 47
    Small minds think alike says:

    Collecting evidence?

  48. 48
    Winston says:

    Very true. However, I was in Donetsk and Kiev in 2012 and everyone was living together happily. So what happened? The EU, with the assistance of the US, attempted regime change. Now look at the mess.

  49. 49
    Small minds think alike says:

    A woman with balls! Should have her in the UK government

  50. 50
    Nigel says:

    I admire RT.

  51. 51
    So it was all lies the day before? says:

  52. 52
    So it was all lies the day before? says:

  53. 53
    silvio bungasconi says:

    I offer theese young lady job on my channel

  54. 54
    Small minds think alike says:

    While you may take the circumstances into account , this is nonetheless a monstrous crime . The person who fired the missile was not being attacked and had not identified the target. nor does a state of war exist- it is an insurrection.

  55. 55
    faggotsnpeas says:

    A few years ago, gave up a career, and so glad I did, shafted the bad boys on the way out, ah freedom and peace of mind.

  56. 56
    Russia is a nation of fucking cretins says:

    “There are too many trigger-happy types in the Ukraine vicinity”

    Uh-hu, and Putin went and gave them surface to air missiles.

    Clever.

  57. 57
    Winston says:

    Good spot. Guido mugged off again!

  58. 58
    Her job interview at the BBC could be interesting says:

  59. 59
    Anonymous says:

    BBC is independent from the Government of the Day under a ROYAL CHARTER.

  60. 60
    silvio bungasconi says:

    kim jon il is the dictator du jour for me
    setting fire to meddlesome relatives using a flamethrower and feeding them to dogs
    Putin could learn from him

  61. 61
    Scrap the BBC. says:

    No matter what the convoluted process the BBC isn’t funded by the government, it’s funded by us via the television tax. Government has no money other than that extracted from us or borrowed which we have to pay back.

  62. 62
    Guido says:

    I’m in cahoots with Rupee. Nothing wrong with that.

  63. 63
    Small minds think alike says:

    Journalist resigns over a point of principle – that’s “sensational”. No doubt you have the same many times?

  64. 64

    “Q. Which current world leader do you most admire?
    A. As an operator, but not as a human being, I would say Putin.”

    [biggles, gq, may “14]

  65. 65
    Winston says:

    Possibly. Or they got them from Ukrainian military who changed sides or the bases that they have captured. There is so much lying through the media, we will never know. The Western media is controlled by the political elite. They have failed to cover the civil war, until now

  66. 66
    Small minds think alike says:

    30,000 ft above the war zone is just a “couple of feet”. Hope you are never called as a witness !

  67. 67
    Anonymous says:

    The state, the government, the taxpayer are all the same. Can’t you see that?

    When some lefty goes on QT demanding that the government pays for, funds, sets up or does. Then he is actually demanding that you and I cough up and pay for his demands.

  68. 68
    Winston says:

    How comes US aviation authorities were calling it a no-fly zone?

  69. 69
    ,, says:

    Correct but Geedo’s statement is about the funding. And both the BBC and RT are state funded.

  70. 70
    Confucious the Voter says:

    And how much does BBC receive from EU?
    And why does it receive anything at all from EU?

  71. 71
    Anonymous says:

  72. 72
    JJKI says:

    Facts.

    30,000 ft was the minimum height.
    The plane was at 30,000 ft.

    3.33333 % is hardly a safety margin

  73. 73
    non taxable pikey says:

    BUK Missile launcher going home to Moscow.

  74. 74
    Whack-a-mole says:

    Yvette Cooper?

  75. 75
    And it is a plus 1 from me says:

    Well said Winston

  76. 76
    Cardinal Biggles says:

    As for great geopolitical consequences following this tragedy, I have my doubts.

    Thirty odd years ago the Soviets shot down KAL007, just off Sakhalin Island. The Soviets claimed they had repeatedly warned the airliner that it was inside restricted airspace and should leave immediately, but got no response. Whatever the real truth of the matter (was the airliner doing some illicit data gathering for US Intelligence as was rumoured), there were no long lasting repercussions. Ronny still did diplomatic business with the ‘evil empire’ after the dust settled.

    After the USS Vincennes shot down the Iranian Airbus, the Yanks claimed that they mistook if for a hostile military aircraft, said sorry and the ship went home, the Captain received coffee and medals.

  77. 77
    And it is a Like from me says:

    Like

  78. 78
    Im out of here says:

    The Taxpayer governments have no money they steal it from us.

  79. 79
    Ukraine does have SAM says:

    The Ukraine had and used missiles to down a civilian aircraft in 2001, what makes you think they threw them away?

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812

  80. 80
    A bit of balance? says:

    …and of course the UK state media, Mur’doch press, Grauniad etc. are all completely pure, innocent, impartial and without outside influence?

  81. 81
    There's one born every minute says:

    LOL. Do you really believe that is a high tech missile launcher going to Moscow on the back of a Pikey’s scrap truck?

  82. 82
    Maimed Codger says:

    Despite the Macho image, Putin confirms he is not much of a real Man… who will accept responsibility for his actions..instead, behaving like a child, who blames every one else. History, as with Blair… will judge him and his actions..

  83. 83
    rick says:

    The state allows the BBC to collect money from the population under threat of imprisonment for non-payment. How is this NOT state funding ?????

  84. 84
    Fly Spy says:

    It’s not the least bit unusual for civilian aircraft to carry intelligence gathering kit.

  85. 85
    Flight Watch says:

    ‘A couple of feet’! Now ask how big his dick is….

  86. 86
    Bill Quango MP says:

    I think he said “get a life”

  87. 87
    silvio bungasconi says:

    old holborn has voluteered to go over there and piss on the charred corpses

  88. 88
    Flight Watch says:

    Oh yeah and the BBC is always covering up for the UK government? BBC gives the UK government a 24/7 fucking, they even bugged a former PM by leaving a radio mike on him, anyone who watches it knows this?

    Any comparison with RT doesn’t stack up.

  89. 89
    A normal person says:

    And why would they do that?
    What possible thing to do the civil airlines have to gain by carrying out military missions?

    if there was a documentary that showed Britsih Airways routinely overflew military installations carrying surveillance equipment how low do you think the share price would go?
    All the way to zero?

    So why would the airlines do it?

    Answer – they wouldn’t. It would be insane.

  90. 90
    Lefties says:

    We only love Stalin. he only killed a few tens of millions. And they probably weren’t very gay so were asking for it.

  91. 91
    Flight Watch says:

    Yeah but they claimed majority participation and support, which didn’t happen.

    They also frequently tell the UK and US citizens that they live in a police state.

    Yet RT is continually allowed to broadcast criticisms of these police states and RT fans who post similar online remain mysteriously unarrested?

    Really? Tell us another…

  92. 92
    Guidebook says:

    … and in response not too long after a little ol’ jumbo jet got itself blown up over Scotland.

    Funny that.

    If Putin had any sense he would have instructed his military to apprehend whoever fired that missile and have him/them delivered to the Kremlin before 0900 on Monday. Then he could have been court-martialed and jailed for life.

    The normal activity can resume and Putin comes out smelling of roses all over again.

  93. 93
    Flight Watch says:

    Yeah he writes fiction…

    Do you know what the words fact and fiction are and the difference between them?

  94. 94
  95. 95
    Big Gay Vlad Putin says:

    George Galloway, please contact me, there’s a position for you in Russia Today.

  96. 96
    Weygand says:

    Really shows the problems in Russia. Had Sara Firth resigned from Newsnight, she would have been sure of a job on Channel 4 News.

  97. 97
    Winston says:

    Yes, commenting on other people’s comments, with ‘get a life’ is a really meaningful hobby. I wish I was as exciting as him/her

  98. 98
    spanows says:

    It breaks it’s Royal Charter EVERY DAY!!! Omission, Omission, Omission, on a mission, lies (yes, LIES), agenda setting, debate framing bunch of shysters.

  99. 99
    Flight Watch says:

    They have a reputation for being over cautious. This time they were unfortunately correct.

    Airlines owned by muslim nations aren’t as cautious because they don’t suffer the same threats eg from terrorism.

    There is a data map online showing air traffic over Ukrainian air space for the past week. You will note MH17 followed the same path as 800 other passenger aircraft.

  100. 100
    Anonymouse says:

    They always have done and probably always will do carry intelligence gathering equipment/personnel which to many would not even be obvious as intelligence gathering. But why are you confusing this with a military mission, are you being deliberately obtuse?

  101. 101
    Mike Hawke says:

    Wow, another anti Putin story! It sounds like propaganda.

  102. 102
    TF123 says:

    Can you substantiate this accusation against Putin or are you just repeating media and politicians’ hot air? Calling Russia potty-word playground names gives the game away I am afraid.

    Why would anyone in the East Ukraine self-government movement want to shoot down a Malaysian commercial flight six miles over their heads, even if they had the technology to do it? If they had an extensive radar support system plus technology to target and attack aircraft overhead it would not be to down a commercial jet six miles up, it would be directed against an aircraft directed by Kiev much more likely to want to do them more direct harm. The known force with this anti-aircraft capability in Ukraine is Kiev’s government, and I guess they have Russian technology of the exact type which they bought in past times from Russia. That a mistake was made seems very likely.

    The trigger-happy types in the vicinity include not only local Kiev forces, Eastern combattants and Russia which is only a few miles away across the immediate border, but mercenaries on the ground and also combat warships from the USA.

    The noise of anti-Putin propaganda is shrill, deafening and painful – could it be anything to do with the buildup to the US election? Could it be anything to do with the BRICS announcements? Could it be anything to do with taking our attention away from the ethnic cleansing going on in Gaza? It certainly has nothing to do with helping Ukrainians, making our skies safer, nor consoling the bereaved.

    Ms. Firth is telling us we should believe her for five years, then not the next minute, then now we must give her a round of applause. I simply don’t swallow any of it.

  103. 103
    So all her RT Tweets are LIES and Untruths? says:

  104. 104
    LOL says:

    Oh yes, oh yes. The BBC is Not biased.

  105. 105
    Tim Yeo-Yo says:

    What are you expecting? A big fucking Eddie Stobart truck or a big fucking Russia military truck?

    If they were sneaking it out in a hurry would you not put it on anything you could get your hands on?

    How many tank transporters do you reckon they’ve got lying around waiting for this sort of thing to happen?

  106. 106
    A normal person says:

    The question still stands.

    WHY would the airlines risk doing that?

  107. 107
    Overton says:

    +1000

    That’s the most cogent, objective analysis I’ve read yet on here!

  108. 108
    Odds favour ? says:

    Would you be prepared to share link to such online data map?

    Thanks

  109. 109
    Socialism Ate My Future says:

    Very good link

  110. 110

    A journalist with morals?

  111. 111
    RWG says:

    Just talking tits, no loss.

  112. 112
    Heroic says:

    Well Good for her.

  113. 113
    spanows says:

    RT managed to report the news of riots etc in Paris recently (the capital city of a big European country quite near to the UK); the BBC seemed not to notice.

  114. 114
    Tim Yeo-Yo says:

    Yes that’s right. It was the US navy CIA Mercenaries.

    Asda have got BOGOF on tinfoil at the moment.

  115. 115
    Anonymous says:

    If you want FSB “facts” check this blog out http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/igor-strelkov-and-militia-briefings_17.html?m=1

    How the “freedom fighters” keep “finding” this kit they should do the Euros (no pun intended) Still we’re equally to blame.

  116. 116
    Anonymous says:

    Go me lie down in a dark room. You will feel better later.

  117. 117
    Anonymous says:

    You must be Russian. Is your name Ivan?

  118. 118
    Jack Ketch says:

    Whatever happened to this plane?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerolinee_Itavia_Flight_870#

    No credible conclusion has been reached.

  119. 119
    Anonymouse says:

    There is no risk. Taking photographs, recording transmissions, simply looking out of a window. There is no risk. Why do you think there is a risk, are you being deliberately obtuse?

  120. 120
    ColdWarWarrior says:

    Out of BA Tridents and 1-11s a very long time ago maybe, but a Malaysian 777 in this day and age with the Satellite technology available? Pull the other one for it doth ring.

  121. 121
    non taxable pikey says:

    Hamas has first claim on him.

  122. 122
    Jack Ketch says:

    British Airways always used to do that or at least when they were still State-Owned. As BOAC, RAF signals officers routinely travelled as crew on flights to Eastern Europe and other interesting places. Ever wondered why a British Airways Jumbo BA 149was the ONLY airliner to land in Kuwait during the Iraqi invasion after a two hour delay at Heathrow?
    Korean airlines also routinely carried eavesdropping gear on behalf of the American NSA, one of the Russians motivations for shooting down not only Korean flight KAL 007 in 1983 , the one everyone remembers, but also Flight KL 902 near the Finnish border in 1978.

  123. 123
    Winston says:

    Actually, RT gives the Russian view, like the BBC gives the view of the Western political elite. Watch and disseminate the manipulations and lies and you get a broader, more informed view of the World. Or you could just nail your colours to one side and remain ignorant.

  124. 124

    This is could be part of a maskirovka.

    It takes the attention away from RT – onto the reporter a little – but more importantly the actions of the reporter can be used by the network to improve legitimacy.

    Look at it like a re-run of the L’iz W’ahl / A’bby M’artin routines.

    It would be very hazardous for any other agency to touch Sara now as she could well be a double.

    Burned her career, but this does help R’ussia more in the short term whilst they try to get their narrative straight.

    Vote UKIP :-D

  125. 125

    Haven’t you received the updated version of the GRU counter-measure handbook ?

    It’s U’kraine – not ‘The’ U’kraine.

    In any case, the spin won’t work. #fail

    Vote UKIP :-D

  126. 126
    ZZZ says:

    So, Geedough you fat zioshill. We know who you are you funded by.

  127. 127
    ZZZ says:

    Guido, of course, is not biased at all….!
    FFS!

  128. 128
    ZZZ says:

    +1000000

  129. 129
    ZXZ says:

    People don’t seem to realise that the Ukraine region is where most Izraelis have their real roots.

  130. 130
    Pontiac says:

    Fact is the Izzies have interests in the Ukraine (the real “homeland” of many of them) so watch out for loads of false flags.

  131. 131
    Tin Foil Hat Tie! says:

    “Haven’t you received the updated version of the GRU counter-measure handbook ?”

    #BarkingMadRedsUnderTheBedConspiracyTheorist

  132. 132

    Where did I mention Reds or Communists ?

    The GRU do have such publications by the way – most of them are quite good and up to date.

    The slip on U’kraine gives the game away a little. That is how it was referred to during the Soviet era.

    Vote UKIP :-D

  133. 133
    Flight Watch says:

    The map was from planefinder.net data and was used in a sky news report. As you can see the airspace was relatively busy this week.

    View story at Medium.com

  134. 134
    Flight Watch says:

    For years Russia gave it’s view through Pravda, laughable nonsense. Now we have Russia Today. Former employees speak out about the propaganda bullhorn and it’s methods:
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/how-the-truth-is-made-at-russia-today?s=mobile

  135. 135
    The EU funds it's useful (BBC) idiots too. says:

    Don’t forget us!

  136. 136
    itard says:

    or put another way, journalist who ditched all principles to join RT in first place, finally has enough. not even a glimmer of sensational, and not even the first hack to jump.

  137. 137
    Tim Yeo-Yo says:

    The BBC being extra fucking shit does make RT any less shit.

  138. 138
  139. 139
    spanows says:

    Yes! Just like all those ‘men’ caught/cautioned/gaoled etc for grooming in dozens of English towns. Went as far as calling them ‘Asian’ many times too.

  140. 140
    Anonymous says:

    The plane was shot down by a BUK missile, launched by pro-Russian separatists, who believed that it was another Ukrainian government transport plane, similar to the one they shot down earlier in the week.

    The missile-launcher was supplied by Russia.

    When the fact that it was a civilian aircraft became known, the Russian government (and also Russia Today) immediately attempted to deny that they had anything to do with it.

    That was an obvious lie, which is why Sara Firth has resigned.

  141. 141
    TF123 says:

    Surprising that none of the BBC’s news team resigns out of shame for some of the nonsense we are presented with. Some of it is much more twisted than anything you will see on RT.
    I suppose BBC pays better and it would be a tougher sacrifice.

  142. 142
    TF123 says:

    I have not read anywhere that Sarah Firth resigned from RT because she has irrefutable evidence that the Russian government downed the Malaysian airliner and RT refused to report. You are making a very serious accusation which I doubt if you can substantiate.

  143. 143
    Liz Wahl says:

    You go for it girl but I did it with more class for the Ruskie LBGT komunity!
    This is Liz Wahl, The People’s Reporter for.. erm.. Facebook!

  144. 144
    A normal person. says:

    Taking photographs and recording what exactly?

    The risk is simple and has been explained to you. But you may not have registered it so can say it again.

    if the Putin mob knew British Airways were carrying out surveillance, they could give that story to western media and British Airways would be facing bankruptcy.

    You seem to imply they are happy to take that risk, for reasons that have not been given.

    However, maybe you are correct. Please give a single example of a commercial airliner being used in the way you describe. From any nation, possibly excluding the firmer USSR and China Air, whose powers of stare control mean this could have been be a reality.

    The internet awaits some back up to your allegations.

  145. 145
    Anonymous says:

    lot of unneccessary rudeness today

  146. 146
    Anonymous says:

    For years the States gave it’s view through America Today, laughable nonsense. Now we have NBC

  147. 147
    Anonymous says:

    with luck flight watch will get bored trolling this site and go somewhere else

  148. 148
    Flight Watch says:

    fly spy is a f3cking id1ot

  149. 149
    Maimed Codger says:

    Don’t give him your name, Pike.

  150. 150
    spanows says:

    Is this Sara taking it from RT?

  151. 151
    Flight Watch says:

    Impostore leftard

  152. 152

    I accept a tale of two states point . BBC MAY WELL GET MORE THAN THE TV Licence from the general taxation cookie jar at the discretion of HMG . Indeed the World Service is directly funded by the Foreign Office budget.

    But if you think that s gross look at the situation on
    the Continent /EU.
    There it is true state broadcasters are only part funded by the state because they allow advertising on all stations radio and TV public and private .

    But in addition all the political parties are funded by taxpayers PAYE deductions
    as are the Churches and indeed all the newspapers such as Le Figaro , Reppublica , Diario de Noticias and Le Temps.

    Without state funding half of these organs would have folded years ago . So it s comparable to Cameron giving the Mirror or the Sun a bung for keeping them afloat when readership plummets .

    These are NOT loans but out and out subsidies.
    And then EU diktat says state subsidies are not allowed except in extreme /extenuating circumstances ……

  153. 153
    Anonymous says:

    RAW: Anger & unrest at London protest over ‘BBC bias’ on Gaza

    “Protests against BBC coverage of Israeli military operation against the Palestinian refugee population in the Gaza strip are erupting across the UK, with thousands joining a call for fair, unbiased and contextual reporting of the events on the ground” – RT, Jul 16, 2014

    Yes it is interesting how, despite having huge protests on it’s doorstep, the BBC fails to report anything. But Russia Today – that is more that a far miles away – has some of the best video footage and reporting. Should not some of the BBC ‘news reporters’ reconsider their positions?

  154. 154
    Anonymous says:

    IDS says: But not me.

  155. 155
    Anonymous says:

    “We were not surprised by Sara Firth’s decision to leave RT after 5 years as a Moscow and London correspondent, as she has recently informed us that she was likely to take an offer from another firm”. Russia Today spokesperson

    Since this RT comment seems to have been left out, might it not be helpful to hear (directly) from Sara Firth about her future plans? A nice well-paid job with Fox News or The Sun?

  156. 156
    Tim Yeo-Yo says:

    Does not.

  157. 157
    Tim Yeo-Yo says:

    Fuck off Ivan.

  158. 158
    Anonymous says:

    Given you have such a deep insight into Russian thinking and tactics – as well as the way Sara Firth’s mind works – could you say why the Ukrainian government would allowed a civilian aircraft to fly over a war zone?

  159. 159
    Anonymous says:

    Or a journalist with an offer of a better paying job?

  160. 160
    Joe Public says:

    Well now that she has learnt to appreciate in telling the truth she will not find work in the BBC as this is not in their DNA either.
    Al Jazeera English is about her best bet or even Fox.

  161. 161
    Anonymous says:

    So, without first-hand or hard evidence, you seem happy to (pre)judge the Russians. The again, should you have insights into just what happened – might you share them with the UN?

  162. 162
    Anonymous says:

    And, as with statements that WMD could be fired within 45 mins, this was reported by TV news – so it must be true.

  163. 163
    Who watches Flight Watch? says:

    Which organ of the Establishment are you with?
    Ministry of Truth?
    Thought Police?

  164. 164
    Anonymous says:

    If a recent poll was an election – Putin would have been voted World Leader by a mile.

  165. 165
    Anonymous says:

    Interesting article over on Zero Hedge – Malaysian airlines was flying much lower than most passenger aircraft – only a foot over the restricted air space and he says the previous 10 flights didnt use that route at all – if they didnt, how come Malaysian was directed through it by Ukrainian air traffic control and at so low an altitude ?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/was-flight-mh-17-diverted-over-restricted-airspace

  166. 166
    Lord Coe Tory MP says:

    Tories? Never heard of them.

  167. 167
    Jimmy says:

    Certainly would if he was counting it.

  168. 168
    The Ghost of Stalin says:

    Do you really think anyone on this blog is listening to you Ivan? Not sure why your paymasters have instructed you to write in here? Not only are you doing a shit job no one except the tin foil hat fools believes you.

    Have you no shame in telling pure lies?

  169. 169
    The Ghost of Stalin says:

    What an utterly retarded comparison.

  170. 170
    The Ghost of Stalin says:

    TF123 is clearly from RT or the Ruski Embassy.

    He’s also doing a very shit job in convincing anyone that this is anything but a Russian separatist fuck up.

    Maybe he should try and convince the idiots on other blogs. We (less for a few tinfoliers) are a smart bunch!

  171. 171
    Puzzled says:

    How come Russky stooges have fancy missiles, but haven’t got simple Flightradar app to identify planes? Maybe Ms Firth can look into this stuff now

  172. 172
    Anonymous says:

    If only!

  173. 173
    Anonymous says:

    “you get the kick in your stomach when you’re going to get the facts”
    Some gung-ho halfwit mistakenly lets fly with a guided missile, unless it’s yet another deliberate false-flag operation, where hundreds of innocents perish? Separatists and/or Russia must be hauled before the court of civilized society and punished. But first, let us ignore that hypocritical one-way mirror of unchallenged subjective rendition currently accepted as reality. With America supplying the high-tech weaponry daily ranged against innocent Palestinians. In addition obscure, those other unmentioned individuals. The ones who wilfully released a salvo of lethally misguided ideology, against tens arguably hundreds of thousands of Iraqi non-combatants. Might not acknowledging and testing our rampant cognitive dissonance be a way to end this species self-delusion?

  174. 174
    Anonymous says:

    Despite having little hard evidence, MSM are quick to blame the Russians. So, was this “planned by someone to start something bigger…”?

  175. 175
    Anonymous says:

    Other RT journos have resigned and then found a well paid jobs – with ‘honest’ news outlets such as Fox News, CBS, Daily Mail or The Sun? Seems that Russia Today might have p,off some high-placed people in London and Washington. If so, WELL DONE RT!

  176. 176
    Anonymous says:

    Backbone, or bigger pay-checks?

  177. 177
    Anonymous says:

    Helping to prove that the “noise of anti-Putin propaganda is shrill, deafening and painful” Instead of the Standard Operational Insults – why not answer some of the telling points?

    Could this be anything to do with:
    “the buildup to the US election?
    the BRICS announcements?
    taking our attention away from the ethnic cleansing going on in Gaza?”

    For what has any of this to do with, “helping Ukrainians, making our skies safer, nor consoling the bereaved”?

  178. 178
    ??? says:

    Eeer, virtually the whole western media sucks circumcised dick.

  179. 179
    Sungei Patani says:

    The big difference is that RT supports the Russian Government, the BBC only supports the UK Government when the Labour Party is in power.

  180. 180
    Sungei Patani says:

    If you are referring to the radio microphone on which Gordon Brown gave his famous “bigoted woman” comment this belonged to Sky news.

  181. 181
    Get real says:

    @anomytwat

    Errr….no, no and no.

    You must have a hole in your tinfoil hat.

  182. 182
    Get real says:

    Look up what Eurocontrol does and then get some more tinfoil.

    Fucking idiot.

  183. 183
    Anonymous says:

    The poll in question was reported on this site – with a fair number of positive comments.

  184. 184
    Anonymous says:

    In what can only be seen as the greatest bit of luck, someone just happened to be filming then a truck taking the VERY missile launcher just happened to drive by. Then again, TV news outlets don’t have to use in-depth reporting and fact-checking – when they can be spoon-feed any old BS. For when the powers-that-be told them ‘Iraq had Weapons of Mass Distraction’ – why double check? And, since Washington says Russia shot down the aircraft, it must be true.

  185. 185
    Anonymous says:

    MH 17 – Ukraine – 17 July 2014

    “EUROCONTROL has been informed that MH 17 en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur has crashed in the eastern part of Ukraine.

    Our thoughts are with the families and friends of those on board.

    According to our information, the aircraft was flying at Flight Level 330 (approximately 10,000 metres/33,000 feet) when it disappeared from the radar. This route had been closed by the Ukrainian authorities from ground to flight level 320 but was open at the level at which the aircraft was flying.

    Since the crash, the Ukrainian authorities have informed EUROCONTROL of the closure of routes from the ground to unlimited in Eastern Ukraine (Dnipropetrovsk Flight Information Region). All flight plans that are filed using these routes are now being rejected by EUROCONTROL. The routes will remain closed until further notice.”

    So, Eurocontrol directed civilian flights over a known war zone. And, only recently, have they directed air traffic away. Does one really need to be tinfoil hat wearer to ask why MSM are playing this down?

  186. 186
    Anonymous says:

    So how many thinking people will be taken in by this modern take on the old reds-under-the-bed BS? And yet your tinfoil hat tactic is just one of many Standard Operational Insults. A tactic which the likes of you appear to have little in shame in using. Not saying that you are putting out total lies – more like carefully constructed anti-Russian insults and disinformation.

  187. 187
    Anonymous says:

    Penfold

    Do you reckon that all the useful idiots ought to form a Trades Union?

    We could call it the: UIWSFATUANAITF.

    That’s The Useful Idiots Who Should Form A Trades Union Around Now And In The Future.

    I’ve shortened it so that it rolls off the tongue.

    Which Union are you in and are you useful?

    No offence- justt asking.

  188. 188
    Anonymous says:

    The fact that you can be bunged in the nick is a fact enough that the BBC
    is Stae funded.

    If I don’t pay my Gas bill EDF cannot send me to jail.

    As we Britsh?Americans say- GO FIGURE.

  189. 189
    Anonymous says:

    Penfold

    Do you reckon that all the useful idiots ought to form a Trades Union?

    We could call it the: UIWSFATUANAITF.

    That’s The Useful Idiots Who Should Form A Trades Union Around Now And In The Future.

    I’ve shortened it so that it rolls off the tongue.

    Which Union are you in and are you useful?

    No offence- justt asking.

  190. 190
    Anonymous says:

    Better a sinner shot I say.

    The fact that you can be jailed for not paying you TV Licence means that the BBC is State funded. It is a Criminal Act.

    If I don’t pay my EDF gas bill I won’t go to Jail ( a Civil matter).

    As we BRamericans say – GO FIGURE!!!

    JEEEZ what a moron.

  191. 191
    Ghost of Stalin says:

    Actually I’m just a normal Brit. It’s hilarious that you dumb Ivan’s think that any intelligent person falls for this BS.

    Nothing carefully constructed or particularly anti-Russian. It’s obvious that this was a tragic mistake made by the separatists. On this ocasion my belief is that Putin would have been far better in coming clean early rather than atempting this farcical Cold War like cover up.

    You just need to get out of the embassy a bit more and see how the World really is in 2014. Most Brits like me mainly don’t care about the Ukraine, it’s none of our business. I actually think the EU shouldn’t have been poking its nose in. However, to think you can cover up something like this thesedays is frankly laughable.

    In handling this so poorly Putin is playing into the hands of his critics.

  192. 192
    Anonymous says:

    Unfortunately the ‘sanctions’ bite into the raw hide of the Russian people, who rely on imports of food from Europe, despite all the hype from the control freaks about Russian control over their/euro gas pipline
    The Yanks are looking for a big diversion tactic once half their state employees lose their jobs.
    Also there’s been a previous case of a passenger airline shot down. It was an Iranian passenger aircraft shot down by American military/navy well within Iranian waters. The outcome was the Americans paying out over $60m in compensation having been through the international courts. The yanks got finger happy in the stress of the moment apparently, and mistook the signals.
    I guess its much easier to mistake signals if the aircraft (when shot) was only a foot outside a restricted zone, in the middle of a war situation . Does make you wonder what Ukrainian airtraffic control was up to – asleep on the job looks like.

  193. 193
    Goldman Sachs says:

    The whole of the London Main Stream Media is censored on a daily basis.
    Grow up kiddo.
    I haven’t noticed the Pentagon mouth peace Skynews/NewsCorp mention the US forces & planes in Ukraine let alone what they think their doing there….

  194. 194
    Goldman Sachs says:

    The Pentagon Insignia reads;

    When The Pentagon Speaks
    All Others Shall Listen.

  195. 195
    Anonymous says:

    41

    Yes she most certainly is.

    As in ‘facts ‘ what are the facts?

    A plane has fell from the sky through flying over a conflict zone.

    American Airlines were avoiding the area ( as you would ) so why
    did the other airlines think it was safe?

    I’ll do a John Kerry here by just saying that it was probably the
    pro- Russian rebels but we can’t categorically state that.

    For our regretful female reporter that’ what politicians do.

    They lie. Guess what – some politicians lies are bigger than other
    politicians lies.

    Oh and sometimes many of them get caught lying. If this happens in
    the UK you are automatically sent to the House of Lords.

    The Kremlin may have its own system I don’t know.
    One things for sure somebody is going to be right but if I
    were a Russian rebel I wouldn’t let either Russia or the USA or Europeans inspect the black boxes.

    You need some neutral country to investigate. Say ooh……..who can
    you trust these days?

    Suggestions on a postcard to the BBC Editorial Department.

    My money is on Steven Fry.

  196. 196
    Anonymous says:

    Comment on Yahoo ‘News': “More lies in story… on my front page of yahoo there is ANOTHER story next to this one that states that the rebels are holding the body’s in refrigerator cars until the arrival of an international aviation delegation. Shame on the AP for this one sided lying war propaganda!!!!!”

    IS AP trying to say that the rebels are putting bodies on refrigerator trains – and then hiding away? Even the tinfoil hats might have a few problems with this one. Shades of what happened to Iraq’s ‘Weapons of Mass Destruction’?

  197. 197
    Anonymous says:

    Other Comments on same site:
    “Still unclear where it is going. Check the Kyiv Post, they’re reporting Maripol as well, as agreed to some time ago. What does the AP really do, clearly it isn’t news.”

    Maybe what AP are trying to do is help the neo-cons start a Hot War?

  198. 198

    There’s certainly a lot to find out about this topic.
    I really like all of the points you have made.

  199. 199
    Bill says:

    This girl must be one helluva reporter if she is capable of carrying out a full air crash investigation all on her own, without even visiting the crash site or seeing the wreckage. Well, how else did she know that what RT was saying was wrong?


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