July 16th, 2014

Where would a new runway deliver a Greater Britain?
Gatwick Obviously.

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The UK’s aviation debate presents a very real choice: expand Gatwick and further encourage genuine competition in the market with lower fares for everyone, or move back to a London airport market dominated by a single player and saddle the next generation with higher air fares.

We believe the answer is obvious. Competition between UK airports has benefitted us all with better service and lower fares – expansion at Gatwick would allow this to continue, increasing competition between airports and ensuring that the future of air travel is better for everyone. Find out why Gatwick is the obvious choice for the UK’s next runway here.


  1. 1
    sponsored bollocks says:

    Can’t believe this fascinating post has yet to attract any comments


    • 7
      Portobhard says:

      Gatwick is too far out and too nice a place to turn into an airport for the LibLabCons’ importation center for third worlders.

      They should be thinking about repatriation of all those brought in over the last 20 years, not bringing in more.


    • 9
      Tell them to sod off says:

      Why build more airports when the biggest problem facing this country is all the immigrants that the present airports have encouraged in?


    • 19
      What Dave thinks about the voters says:

      So Cameron believes the electorate would prefer a slick election campaign over the proper education of their children.


      • 58
        anon says:

        (foolishly) watched sky news a few minutes ago, the dopes on there gracing us with their opinion seem to think that how a female mp looks is more important than her ability to do the job.
        Celebrity fucking nobodies giving us their opinion like it’s the news.


    • 43
      less is best says:

      This building of more airports is wrong thinking anyway. There are already too many people here, the last thing we need is more.


    • 97
      dai airily says:

      wot about hampstead heath?


  2. 2
    Snot hard says:

    Just knock down some stuff around Heathrow. It’s a shit tip full of foreigners anyway.

    Liked by 1 person

  3. 3
    Sue Denim says:

    Expand Manchester and Birmingham. That makes a lot more sense.

    Liked by 1 person

    • 5
      Sue Denim says:

      (The airports, obviously. Not the cities.)


    • 6
      Who gives a.......... says:

      Airports or the cities? The cities are big enough shitholes!


    • 29
      Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

      + 1000

      Manchester already has two runways and is ideal for an expansion of air traffic

      Improve general infrastructure in the North West and people will move there and the jobs will be created


      • 38
        less is best says:

        More people is the last thing that overpopulated area needs. They should be thinking about reducing the population in the Scouse, Manch, Lancaster triangle, not increasing it.


      • 71
        Rip Hiswinckle says:

        There’s no chance at all of Manchester Airport expanding! IT’S IN GEORGE OSBORNES CONSTITUENCY


        • 80
          Cheshire resident says:

          Actually it already is. Major new construction all over the place.


          • dai airily says:

            and much chinese investment too – things are changing fast up here

            have a look too at the Northern Hub notes on the net – a series of rail improvements – all needed desperately, perhaps some well overdue – planning and management hell – and generally going to plan

            a very good reason to hold back and say – compare the thinking with HS2 (tsr2?) – its embarrassing how foolish the approach to HS2 has been


      • 98
        dai very airily says:

        bugger off pal – i live there!


    • 59
      Pozie says:

      Alconbury, the best site for new airport.


      • 99
        dai airily says:

        john major’s back garden – you are quite right though – its close to the kngs cross rail line too – but note that the A14 cambridge to huntingdon section is already one of the busiest stretches of murtagh-way (an irish dual carriage way for listeners at home) in the UK


  4. 4
    Who gives a.......... says:

    Only the residents of Londonistan!


  5. 8
    Realist says:

    A sponsored post. That’s real journalistic integrity.


    • 50
      Jimmy says:

      Given that guido half the time just let’s fatboy ToryBear run the show we should just glad he’s not throwing a tantrum about how he wants even more immigration – yes he really has got upset before when anyone has talked about reducing or stopping it.


    • 87
      Guido is a Jeremy Hunt says:

      This is the second time round for this crap and like I said previously have you asked the locals around Gatwick if they want a bigger airport Guido?


      • 90
        Norm Normal says:

        Have they asked the people in the rest of the uk who travel via Amsterdam, Paris and Dubai because the South East is to far/expensive to travel to?
        We need a New Airport somewhere North of London with a good express shuttle.


  6. 10
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:


    It looks like the Scots are not content with being wee timorous beasties under the English jackboot.

    The YES camp have two trump cards to play which the NO camp have no defence or strategy to challenge.

    1. Only the YES camp can promise no more Tory rule from London, for which a majority of Scots didn’t vote. i.e. (no more Thatcher,Major or Cameron governments).

    2. Whoever wins the next election is going to have to make the most savage cuts in government spending in history, at least 50% over 5 years. Only by voting YES to independence can Scotland avoid those cuts by virtue of having all the oil & whiskey revenue to themselves.

    Vote YES vote Freeeedom!


    • 22
      bob says:

      Please, please win this.

      1. No £, just some stupid currenty, maybe call it a Jock, 1 Jock = 100 numpties

      2. No defence,

      3. No TV (well we could do with that)

      4. Passport control on all roads going into Scotland

      Thats why Im voting YES

      Begging bowl will be out within 2 years, and remember NO more countries into the EU for 5 years, so your f**cked on that one.


      • 30
        Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

        Norway seem to be doing fine outside the failed & bankrupt EU :-)


      • 33
        Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

        Norway seems to be doing just fine outside the depression hit & ban-krupt EU :-)


        • 34
          bob says:

          Yep they have a oil fund which has over $853.9 billion as of Dec 31st 2013.

          What has Scotland got, apart from drunks and sad gits


          • Scottish Tourist Board says:

            Sporrans, cabers, midges, deep-fried confectionery, crap weather, an ingrained sense of entitlement, a disproportionate number of public sector, pork-barrel jobs, need we go on?

            Inglish, come to Bonny Jockland and be fleeced and insulted!


    • 23
      Anonymous says:

      “Under the English jackboot”… what with £1400 per head more spent on each person than the rest of the UK , every year ?

      Please vote YES to get rid of the whinging sweaties once and for all.


      • 45
        The British media are cunts says:

        Spot on, the only good jock is one that fucks off from England,


        • 60
          The delights we have when scaredy cats say NO says:

          Scotland the Brave song to be redone as Scotland the scared so we said NO.


    • 47
      I live 300 miles from Elite London but I'm not a moaning cun£ says:

      Scott “YES” voters. Just like the wife elected not to work, lunch with friends, go to the gym, shag any passing hunk, whilst simultaneously never passing up the opportunity to tell the hard working Hubby “I want…” and “I gave you the best years of my life” Lets cut our losses and get rid of the moaning bastards once and for all. It will be the moaning bastards who are incapable of actually doing anything other than moan who will eventually be in control, then the BIG FAIL.


  7. 11
    Owen Jones says:

    So the Tories have given more cabinet jobs to women…Not because they’re the best at the job…But because they have front bottoms…Is that sexism?


  8. 12

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    • 62
      Bert says:

      Should be Kweer-Warm Double Glazing, shurely? Emollient stuff they pour on each other’s arseholes post-coitus.


    • 65
      More Green bollocks from a subsidy you are paying says:

      “Our records indicate you qualify for the Green Deal energy home improvement scheme, you do not have to be in receipt of any benefits to take advantage”

      No but if I am not on benefits I can pay at a higher rate than a loan via your mortgage company. And if you are on benefits I can pay for your scheme and the company(s) who keep phoning me every day to tell me a load of old bollocks.

      Ed Milbrain’s 2008 Energy Policy…nothing to do with Labour or the cost of living increase.


  9. 13
    Anonymous says:

    The M4 corridor is full to over flowing. Increasing size of Heathrow will make pollution and traffic jams much worse just so the shareholders of Heathrow can gain.
    Go Gatwick!


    • 27
      Kinsg says:

      What is this M4 corridor? I have travelled the length of the M4 in both directions many a time and have yet to see this corridor.

      It would make a good runway though. All that is needed is a lollipop lady to halt the traffic for when a plane leaves or arrives.


  10. 14
    Tristram Hunt says:

    Following Cameron’s reshuffle every one of the Ministers at the Department for Education in Lords and Commons attended a private school


    • 24

      Having ministers who know what a good school should look like will be an advantage then.


    • 32
      Do away with State education it is carp anyway says:

      That is a good thing surely. The product of Gove’s reforms of the present third rate state system are 10 years away until then we need the private sector to carry Britain.

      State education is past its sell by anyway. Madness to let lefties indoctrinate all our children.


  11. 16
    Alex Salmond says:

    Just wanted to point out there’s more giant pandas in Scotland than Tory MPs. Hoots!


  12. 17
    Bradford resident says:

    Please be considering Leeds / Bradford airport as it is much closer to the shining minarets of Bradford than Gatwick. Also it has much cheapness when compared to the London airports.

    Also as Bradford will one day be the UK Caliphate it makes sense.


    • 64
      bergen says:

      Yes but arriving in Gatwick they can call in at the immigration office in Croydon to sort themselves out before going to” enrich” the lives of the rest of us.


  13. 18
    George Galloway says:

    Isr*el’s soldiers: A light unto the nations. Many’ve been on the front for 5 weeks at the ready, serving Isr*el & the free world with pride.

    Hamas are murdering bastards.

    Liked by 1 person

  14. 25
    Ed Davey says:

    I am in favour so long as Gatwick Airport mulches.


  15. 35
    I Roger Boys MP says:

    Nottingham or Lincolnshire , there are so many abandoned airfields around there



    • 81
      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

      When the price of oil skyrockets to over $1000 a barrel, as the Saudi fields dry up, in the next 10 to 20 years, all airfields throughout the world will be abandoned :-)


  16. 36

    It’s high time they started putting airports underground.


  17. 37
    Calamity Clegg, Chief Cockroach says:



    • 53
      BBC says:

      Breaking news: Labour lead in latest poll, Conservatives close behind and following them in fourth place the Liberal Democrats.

      Next up our special panorama investigation: Is the Tory Party too “pale and male” and how can it embrace diversity?


    • 88
      bob says:

      but yesterday the daily fail said UKIP was on 7%


  18. 39
    Ockham's Razor says:

    Boris Island AND second runway at Gatwick.

    Both needed. Makes sense.


    • 77
      Did the earth move for you too ? says:

      So where is Gatwick the airport for ? Brighton ?
      It can’t be for Londonistan, all it would take is another landslip and Gatwick would be cut off from London by train – again.


    • 78
      Cardinal Biggles says:

      We need an eminent person to head a commission to determine the siting of a new London airport.

      If he weren’t dead, I would suggest Lord Roskill.


    • 83
      Just turn right at runway 231 says:

      Like the plague, close the International ones down and have only one International passenger airport, in this country open to the rest of the world, all other ways into the country have neon signs saying sorry we are really full up, exit signs can be put up on outgoing, saying bye, thank you for your asset strip of my country ask the EU to pay your pension.


  19. 44
    Graham says:

    The most obvious and most sensible decision is a second runway at Gatwick.Should have been done years ago.Only have to look at Manchester with two runways.


    • 75
      why would anyone in their right mind want to build another runway in a fog hollow ? says:

      So give Manchester a third runway – they obviously love the enrichment that it brings up there.


      • 85
        Just turn right at runway 672231 says:

        F.O. there are enough aircraft in the sky now shoving more into the air stream over the north west will get even more scary, it’s already a major air route with E to West overflights and North to London local and overflights and all the usual International overflights, they can’t build a concrete motorway in the sky but you can get the smell of jet fuel from the motorway and noise.


      • 86
        The Black Fingernail says:

        No, we don’t. It might have escaped your attention but legions of pak1 monsters are r@ping our kiddies up here. Keep the enrichment in London, nice and close to those Londoncentric politicians and Guardian writers – I want them running for their lives when it kicks off.


        • 92
          why would anyone in their right mind want to build another runway in a fog hollow ? says:

          I was being sarcastic and entirely agree with your concerns.

          I am greatly puzzled by the notion that Gatwick is somewhere near London. May I suggest that if those with vested interests are so desperate for another runway they should flatten Westminster and build an airport on top of it ?


    • 106
      Famous Person says:

      No. I do not want the peace of Hurtwood disturbed further.


  20. 46
    Anonymous says:

    How much does one of these cost (an article displacing the morning editorial, not an inappropriate runway at an airport that is inaccessible to most of the country, its a faff to get to even for people living in South London).

    I suppose its more honest than local newspapers who make stories about residential or commercial property their lead pieces, but its not much better


    • 69
      Bert says:

      It’s all propaganda, wherever it comes from. At least we have been told this piece about Gatwick is bought and paid for, unlike most of the deceptive nonsense that comes our way.

      BTW this once-esteemed organ is heading rapidly down the tubes. All that remains is momentum and the fact that this is still a place where middle-aged men of a rightist tendency can foregather to make scurrilous and sometimes witty complaints, despite the draconian and increasingly absurd moderation. I can’t see it lasting much longer in its present form, especially given the arrogance of the owner and his opinion of the commentators.


      • 102
        dai happily says:

        have you seen the latest Private Eye?
        well up to old standards – cartoons excellent!


  21. 48
    Sponsored Post says:

    Cheques in the post Guido. Looking forward to doing a lot more content management business with. Especially with a pea dough scandal looming.


  22. 54
    M1 Airport says:

    Turn the M1 into a runway. It would serve from London to Leeds and as cars can’t move on it anymore no great loss to the road network.


  23. 61
    Ockham's Razor says:

    What a load of fucking tosh from brain-dead Bingle. That is putting it politely.

    All style – no substance. The world is just a huge PR bubble for the egocentric to flaunt their own ignorance and prejudice and to charge people handsomely for the doubtful privilege.

    Vote UKIP and dr!ve these fools off to another planet! :-D


  24. 63
    Socialism = Starvation says:

    Last month Sunday morning 1 am or so at Gatwick, some luggage was delayed for several hours, my luggage took an hour to get from aircraft stopping to carousel. Absolutely unbelievable incompetence. You should have had a Grand Slam bomb in the runway for that, not a second runway.

    Send them off to a brewery on a management course.


    • 103
      dai happily says:

      you shouldn’t have been carousing on a saturday night


    • 111
      Anonymous says:

      Exactly the same on a Saturday am. They “over-looked the baggage”.
      Maybe a plot to gouge more parking fees from those awaiting passengers? (cost me £10)


  25. 67
    Thick as they come says:

    I have the solution…

    Simply get the fucking incoming hordes to land/disembark at the point of departure.

    This would not only cut on down on unneeded runways, but would solve the housing crisis, the unemployment figures, and the welfare bill all in one fell swoop.

    The only thing we would need to do this is a relatively small investment. Just some surgery to insert a spine in our PM.


  26. 70
    Just turn right at runway 56 says:

    All airports with two runways have one rebuilt on with mass housing, that will create queues at airport all around the world of people waiting to come into this country and queues of aircraft in the air when this project starts up, the aircraft will divert to other places and the queues in airports around the world can make their own living arrangements, do the same with passenger ferries have only one a week, people will eventually get the hint, the country is full and extra airport space for anything including runways will not be needed.


  27. 72

    Why not make better use of the airports we have, and simply accept the physical fact there is no more room .
    Also get rid of the airport taxes if they are so worried about competition from the likes of Amsterdam and Paris, where there must have the same concerns about running out of space as Heathrow.


  28. 73
    In the Slough of Despond says:

    Support ISIS. Come friendly bombs and explode everywhere.


  29. 74
    Lets spend more billions in the SE says:

    Stansted Airport. Improve rail link say 25 mins from Euston/St Pan/Kings Cross. Allow “Check in” on the train journey, get off far end with Hand Luggage and ONLY 2 hours Security before boarding


  30. 76
    Just turn right at runway 231 says:

    Airports are like hospital, they are for job creation, they are strictly not for the user as if we had lots of airports next to the ones we have now,then the ones laughingly operating now would close down.


  31. 79
    The Critic says:

    What happened to our green commitment to reduce the carbon footprint of air travel? You know the one Gordon got round by deciding not to count anything caused by foreign aircraft?

    One transatlantic flight can add as much to your carbon footprint as a typical year’s worth of driving, allegedly. How many windfarms will we have to build to offset this? Will there be room left for the UK’s population afterwards? Do politicians have the slightest idea what they are doing?


    • 82

      Carbon dioxide is just plant food , quite harmless .


    • 89
      The flower died of neglect tra la la because it was under a PVR says:

      So wind farms count as zero carbon then?, I find that very strange seeing that in wind farms the material used to build them is steel, copper, plastics and all the other materials that can also be used in aircraft, so have they found a way to melt all the required steel and other ways to roll the steel and fit together without using any energy, I hope they will tell the world how they did it as it would be a great break through .


    • 114
      It is all Bollox says:

      Fuck the carbon footprint. It is just political spin claptrap and means nothing.


  32. 84

    Good on you Guido


  33. 91
    tigerowl says:

    Manchester or Leeds/Bradford would be a better place for expansion. In fact, why not move the economy in a better direction.
    Let us have our national parliament in the North. Brand new building and one fit for purpose. Then close that antique building called Westminster.
    Have all the civil service buildings spread out across the North. From Birmingham to Leeds, Sheffield, Manchester, Liverpool or Newcastle. No need for them all to be based in London. Or any of them really.
    Then remove all subsidies that go to enterprise areas in the London area and pass those on to the regions.
    An airport serves the country. If someone flies from America, or China to Britain it does not need to be to a London location.
    Advantages? Costs would be cheaper. The whole country would benefit.
    SO. SIMPLE, NO new runway for the South. You are overcrowded and we have space here in the North to spare. Set out a ten year plan and rebalance the economy.


    • 96
      F S Trueman says:

      As someone who has frequently had to travel to those two northern airports, you clearly do not know what you are talking about.


  34. 95
    Jane Birkin from Paris says:

    I avoid airports as much as I can .

    I do not like men and women telling me I must take my shoes off and frisking me and then saying I can go and buy a coffee for £6.25.


  35. 108
    David B says:

    The truth is more than one runway is required. Expansion should be considered at heathrow, gatwick and stanstead so that this debate is not started again in 10 years time


  36. 109
    christina fernandez de kirchner says:

    port stanley


  37. 110
    found 'em out says:

    Where would a new runway deliver a Greater Britain?

    Westminster – all the way through the HoC

    everything is in london now, nowhere else matters


  38. 113
    The Master says:

    Expand Heathrow and stuff the sponsored crap. Don’t I pay you enough?


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