July 16th, 2014

WATCH: Miliband and Harman Divided on Tax

Look closely at the contrasting reactions of Miliband and Harman to Cameron’s PMQs ambush. Dave reads Harman’s words back to her: “I think people on middle incomes should contribute more through their taxes”. Miliband looks at Harman, then turns back towards the PM, shaking his head and waving his hand dismissively. Harman, meanwhile, nods and says, “they should… it’s true”. Cameron doesn’t realise, but the Tories behind him do.

The Labour leader and his deputy are completely at odds…

UPDATE: The contrast is even more evident in GIF form:


  1. 1
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    Labour’s Tax Bombshell!

  2. 2
    Hazel Blears says:

    The deputy leader of the Labour Party is at odds with everyone except PIE members, natch.

  3. 3
    Another Headshrinker says:

    Even Millimong thinks she talks utter balls! Speaking of which is Mr Harperson sucking on some big black ones as we type?

  4. 4
    BBC News-Editor says:

    We are not Nobody is interested in tax reductions.

  5. 5
    A female P0pe in my lifetime says:

    Save that for an Election Broadcast.

  6. 6
    Bog Paper says:

    Another piece of PIE vicar?

  7. 7
    Ed says:

    Will somebody rid me of this terrible woman?

  8. 8
    The farmer who milked his wife says:

    Harman is not very bright but she was only stating what happens now and which the Tories support namely that people on middle incomes should pay more tax than those on lower incomes. A rather pathetic attempt to stir things up.

  9. 9
    M­a­­q­b­o­­ul says:


  10. 10
    Harriet the Hypocrite says:

    If Harman thinks the middle class like her should pay more, why did she send her children to very selective state schools, so she did not have to pay school fee’s?

  11. 11
    táxpáyér says:

    The hidden assumption that the state can spend money people earned better than they can themselves never seems to be challenged.

  12. 12
    M­a­­q­b­o­­ul says:

    But they do pay more. Harman’s point was that they should pay even more again.

  13. 13
    Milly, aged 9¾ says:

    Politicians are always trying to squeeze my middle.

  14. 14
    Anonymous says:

    I wonder if Dave would shake his head at Thatcher covering up for her paedos, or wave his hand and dismiss it.

  15. 15
    Ed says:

    Is that French for knife-her?

  16. 16
    The British media are cunts says:

    So the BBC claim that too much airtime is given to climate change deniers because they have no scientific background.

    So BBC shirt lifters why is that mad old bat Vivienne Westwood now on the BBC wanking on about fracking? What is her expertise in this area BBC bum boys?

  17. 17
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    Just as Cameron had thrust the keys to No. 10 into Miliband’s hands, birdbrain Harman goes and nicks them and throws them back to Dave :-)

  18. 18
    The British media are cunts says:

    Comps are for thick males and proles.

  19. 19
    haddock says:

    ….or perhaps so that they would know how to use an apostrophe ?

  20. 20
    Jack Dromey says:

    I would like to squeeze Harriet’s middle a bit more, but Leroy is so lovely that I cannot spare the time.

  21. 21
    Anonymous says:

    Spoilt little rich girl thinks plebs who have (in her eyes) ideas above their station should be financially penalised?

    Quelle surprise!

  22. 22
    Hattie says:

    Fortunately, we grandees are not middle-income-earners.

  23. 23
    The farmer who milked his wife says:

    It wasn’t. You should listen to the original LBC interview.

  24. 24
    Weird Ed says:

    I should sack her, but then my wimmin count will fall. I’ll ask Dave Alexrod what to do when he comes back.

  25. 25
    The Real Harriet Harman says:

    I am UPPER middle class to you.

  26. 26
    Raving Loon says:

    The average income is about £26,500, does HH mean these people?

  27. 27
    Pull the udder one. says:

    It was.

  28. 28
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    So the fossil fuels Vivienne Westwood uses are o.k., but not for you and me.

  29. 29
    The Watchmen says:

    As it was written. All going to plan.

  30. 30
    Dave Axelrod says:

    I ain’t coming back, no one can save a bunch of losers like you.

    Hasta La Vista :-)

  31. 31
    Welsh wizard says:

    More like fist her

  32. 32
    Jemima Puddleduck says:

    I like that Hamas…they are sooo trendy & sexy…..they can use their rockets on me anytime…

  33. 33
    Bollocks says:

    He should have turned round and said, shut up you stupid oul trout

  34. 34
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    Westwood just made herself look completely stupid.

  35. 35
    Jeez sum fork are thik. says:

    which is why the daft bint was nodding her head and agreeing with Cameron quoting her.

  36. 36
    Duncan Weaver says:

    The only difference between them is how much they want to increase taxes and where they’ll waste the money.

    At least Harman is being honest.

  37. 37
    The Daily Telegraph says:

    More than 600 suspected p*edophiles arrested


    Doctors, teachers, care workers and former police officers are among more than 600 suspected p*edophiles arrested following a massive nationwide police operation.

    The unprecedented investigation, involving every police force in the UK and coordinated by the National Crime Agency (NCA), took six months to complete.

  38. 38
    David Miliband says:

    Patricide is different than standard murder numb nuts.

  39. 39
    David Miliband says:

    Sorry Fratricide. We don’t talk about the other one do we?

  40. 40

    Even I said she was useless.

  41. 41
    Ed Balls monetary policy says:

    Squeeze and squeeze and squeeze until the pips squeak.

  42. 42
    It had to be siad says:

    …and that was just her clothes!

  43. 43
    The eyes have it. says:

    Look at that expression, he is clinically insane.

  44. 44
    Vivienne Westwood says:

    All my designs are 100% recycled shit from the 60’s

  45. 45

    No MPs or ex MPs though.

  46. 46
    Diane Abbot says:


  47. 47
    Paniagua says:

    She dresses to the left alright.

  48. 48
    Fishy says:

    Saw that. They even used the widely derided, rigged video of burning water.

  49. 49
    It had to be siad says:

    They all seem to be public sector workers, just like the MPs.

  50. 50
    Fishy says:

    He sort of crouches down on the green benches like a smirking, smug little school boy who thinks he’s got one over on the big boys.

  51. 51
  52. 52
    táxpáyér says:


    Did Operation Ore v2 just happen?

  53. 53
    Hattie's Sockpuppet says:

    Yes, taxes are for little people, you ask my mate Hodger

  54. 54
    Tim Yeo-Yo says:

    It looks more like he was reacting to Ed Balls dropping a silent, yet deadly, eggy fart.

  55. 55
    Ellie-Mae (9) says:

    Yes, it’s all “want want want” isn’t it?

  56. 56
    táxpáyér says:

    Not to mention they have marxists on to talk about the economy. Why aren’t they dropped?

    At least flat-earth geographers haven’t killed anyone, and CAGW deniers have prevented thousands from freezing.

  57. 57
    Harriet Harperson says:

    Labour is right to say that the squeezed middle is too squeezed, and right to want to squeeze them more.

  58. 58
    Ellie-Mae (9) says:

    “At least Harman is being honest.”

    I know what you mean D, but it’s still eyewateringly painful to read that sentence.

  59. 59
    Ed Balls says:

    Technically, it was a shart.

  60. 60
    Jack Dromey (Mrs) says:

    Meat and two veg please.

  61. 61
    Ed Miliband says:

    Harriet was right to offer her opinion, and right to apologise for that.

  62. 62
    Taxpayer says:

    I’m more concerned that Cameron believes he’s a tax cutter. He’s as bad as the other lot when it comes to taxing the middle classes.

  63. 63
    The Establishment Rules OK says:

    The fact that Hamas is barraging Israel with rockets is only mentioned as an afterthought on most BBC and Sky newscasts, with the rockets invariably described as ‘homemade’ which may be partially correct (the M-75s) but also include Katyusha, Grad and Iranian Fajr -5 missiles. The media seem also to resent Iron Dome’s success in destroying much of the incoming as not quite cricket.

  64. 64
    táxpáyér says:

    Was this raid timed to coincide with the DRIP vote fallout???

  65. 65
    táxpáyér says:

    He’s not done ANY austerity (UK borrows 100 billion a year!) and got castigated for austerity.

  66. 66
    Mornington Crescent says:

    Or Beeboids, naturally.

    After all, why on earth would there be…?

  67. 67
    táxpáyér says:

    At least the Weekly World News don’t threaten to kidnap you if you don’t hand over a large sum of money.

  68. 68
    Vote Dave? Get stuffed says:

    The industrial revolution would never have get off the ground if people like Westwood were in charge at the time.

  69. 69
    Tosser Dave says:

    We ConLibbers are virtually the same as the Liebourites. We’re still running a fucking great deficit because we haven’t got public expenditure under proper control.
    The National Debt is doubling on my watch to circa £1.5 TRILLION FFS.

  70. 70
    Vote Dave? Get stuffed says:

    He also says he doesn’t want any more countries joining the EU but recently he went to Turkey and said he would fight for their entry. Two-faced Dave strikes again.

  71. 71
    Owen Jones says:

    Being hit by a Hamas rocket is no more hurtful than someone staring at you in an aggressive fashion.

  72. 72

    I wonder who gave her that Pearl Necklace?

  73. 73
    Sockpuppet Alert says:

    Either remove the text ‘deleted’ from your moniker (in the bot titled Website) or keep telling the world you are a multi character idiot.

    Thick prat.

  74. 74
    Wallace Miliband says:

    Now look here, my sweet..we can’t have you going around saying I’m going to put up taxes on the middle classes, can we my love?

    We want to attract the middle classes, don’t we petal? Not frighten them away like a big eared rabbit that has seen grommet with his genitals out, eh, my dear?

    Now, why don’t you fix us up a lovely pot of tea and some Wensleydale? Crackers are in the tin. Ok, my little poppet?

  75. 75
    Jeremy Thorpe says:

    Phew! Missed me!

  76. 76
  77. 77
    Ed Milimong says:

    The grimace and the hand-waving isn’t because she’s saying something I disagree with, it’s because she’s a fool to admit Labour policy before the election.

  78. 78
    Bill Quango MP says:

    Thank you
    You must be new?

  79. 79
    táxpáyér says:

    Leaving the trees would never have get off the ground if people like Westwood were in charge at the time.

  80. 80
    Bill Quango MP says:

    He was probably the same at school.
    Explains his bog brush hairstyle.

  81. 81
    Me says:

    Your moniker URL is most disconcerting. I keep misreading it.

    At first it looks like a reference to ar*e banditry.

    Then, it looks like a reference to “gardening”.

    I had to click on it just to be sure what it really was.

  82. 82
    Mornington Crescent says:

    Not much of an ambush if the Heir to Blair didn’t even register their reaction.

    Bunch of idiots, the lot of ‘em.

  83. 83
    Sue Denim says:

    I’m not sure she has left the trees.

  84. 84
    more importantly says:

    Who Amber Rudd? And is she a goer?

  85. 85
    jaffs masquerading as HH says:

    OK, I can see you are right….can I instead say that taxes that men pay should be much higher than women? I believe this should be the case for your vileness over 2000 years and for inventing Page 3 and gay black porn (which has caused me severe problems in my own marriage).

  86. 86
    Yasmin says:

    Being rocketed by Hamas is not as bad as being threatened with a punch in the throat.

  87. 87

    They need to milk more money from the people to pay for the crazy policies

  88. 88

    Could be evidence of a split ?

    Vote UKIP :-D

  89. 89
    Mickey Gove says:

    Help me please Guido.

    Do you know where I can get a faux leather whip with a mother of pearl handle?

  90. 90
    Mycroft says:

    I saw the daft old bat on the TV too.

    The woman has absolutely no idea about which she spoke.

    8 years!!! 46 years in reality.

    Fractured gas is in simple terms is the least polluting form of energy yet discovered by man output for output, it outstrips Windmills and solar because the production of these ‘green’ tech devices are grossly polluting.

    Given air time, the BBC gave air time to a pygmy brained, half-pickled dead-beat.

    I want a right of reply, if the BBC can that vacuous old fraud time on air then I want the opportunity to put it right.

  91. 91

    Interesting the way the opposition leader drew attention to the widening gap in earnings/income between the top 1 % and average earners.

    He chose not to mention the widening gap between average earnings and those of MPs after they chose to vote themselves such a hefty pay hike.


  92. 92

    So it seems the leader of the opposition may get that meeting he wants with Obama.

    That went well for his predecessor…

  93. 93
    Vinse Kabal says:

    I like the idea of more taxes.

  94. 94
    Blue Peter Goldfish says:

    Heaven be praised, they are all f*cking off for xxxxxxxx weeks, the FTSI is up already.

  95. 95

    Perhaps this is why Dave is losing hair fast:


    Now – didn’t he have one of these guys in his very own office ?

    Slowly, slowly, catchy monkey…

    Vote UKIP :-D

  96. 96
    Wallace Miliband says:

    Of course you can, my little sweet pea.
    But only after the election.

    Until then, I’d like you to wear this Ann Summers ball gag..there..looks very fetching with that Pinnie.

  97. 97
    The Establishment is infested with Nonces says:

    More likely to be sucking on small 11 year old ones probably.

  98. 98
    GnosticBrian says:

    Watching and listening your clip, it appears that Cameron did spot it. Harriet shouts “They should” and Cameron says “…they should…well, there we are, that is their policy – the ‘squeezed middle’ should pay more…” The Tories should run with this until the election – after all, who would trust a Red Ed denial?

  99. 99
    Vinse Kabal says:

    Please, please, I have some ideas for new taxes

  100. 100
    Vinse Kabal says:

    and the problem with that is what?

  101. 101
    The Establishment is infested with Nonces says:

    Sorry Jack, we only have PIE.

  102. 102
    The Establishment is infested with Nonces says:

    And nowhere near as offensive as page three of the Sun.

  103. 103
    Phuquit says:

    United they fall, divided they fall

  104. 104
    Zero sum game says:

    Asked if she is part of the establishment by Ian Dale, Hattie replies ‘In some ways I am, in some ways I’m not’. I try to count the ways she’s not and I keep coming up with zero.

  105. 105
    Fishy says:

    Too fart, too fast

  106. 106
    Twitter's Mike Fab says:

    WHich you weren’t … even.

  107. 107
    The pig farmer says:

    I’m bullet proof

  108. 108
    We have the answers says:

    is it because she shops at Asda?

  109. 109
  110. 110
    FOAD says:

    More? What do you mean, fucking “more”, you stupid bitch?

    I’m taxed to the fucking hilt already.

    Fuck off!

  111. 111
    Ed is Dead But Lives On says:

    Brillant more Red on Red fire! Millibean is going lose big in 2015, but no need to worry Labour will keep him on anyway. They’ll be out of power for at least the next 20 years and by then will have imploded. It has to be said that most of this is due to Labour’s own efforts and not Dave’s brillance as a Conservative. But keeping them out of power and out of our pockets is to be welcomed. Lets just hope they keep Ed on for the next few years.

  112. 112
    Cynic says:

    Why don’t they tax pedophiles? Hatty could name a few from her days lobbying for PIE

  113. 113

    Is Ed Milliband going to become an InterTrader when he gets the bullet from Labour ..?

  114. 114
    bogtrott says:

    what about the 600 who work at the BBC anything done about them.

  115. 115
    bogtrott says:

    along came a pie woman who taxed you 70%….

  116. 116
    Mr Weetabix (and NSA) says:

    Voters going to vote.

  117. 117
    visibly shaken says:

    I am sick of maxist economics being portrayed as capitalism on the bbc. they keep talking about henry ford paying higher wages to ensure his staff can afford a car.

    even the most simple of people work it through and realise…

    “hey actually, output doesn’t rise therefore no one is better off in real terms”

    hey bbc. stop trying to indoctrinate the public with Marxism or even better. employ some business and economics journalists with proper private sector experience.

  118. 118
    RWG says:

    Ah, the butlers….

    Thank you, Spike!

  119. 119
    geordieboy says:

    Upper a fucking gum tree.

  120. 120
    Maggie forever says:

    Did she fart?

  121. 121
    Sanctimonious Dave-Scoffing At Lefty 'Tax Rises' Whilst Hiding His Own Wastage... says:

    FFS, no one mention our EU Membership Fee (which costs every UK Man, Woman and Child £300 each) or our irrational (borrowed) £10 Billion Aid Budget, else people will see me as the real opportunist Hunt that I am!….Anyhow, it’s time for our Holidays! BYE!

  122. 122
    Bob cuntface Crow says:

    Well done Jon Snow[tonights 4 news} tonights interview with Israeli spokesman plumbed new depths of unashamed bias. c unt.

  123. 123
    Bob cuntface Crow says:

    Her Slovakian cleaner buys Jacks weekly vat of lube at ASDA.

  124. 124
    Displaced Brummie says:

    Harriet is not a physically unattractive woman. However, I can’t say I’d like to be with her as I can’t help but think of all the portions of PIE she helped serve as a younger woman.

  125. 125
    Displaced Brummie says:

    Like a Nonce Tax?

  126. 126
    low resolution fox says:

    Joy of joys, I always wanted to stare at a hammer for 45seconds.

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