July 14th, 2014

Nonce Finder General Missed Paedo Files Data Months Ago

Tom Watson today accused he government of being hasty in setting up an inquiry into SW1’s historic sex crimes. Haste, however, is not an accusation that can be levelled at the former Nonce Finder General. It turns out  super-sleuth Tom was told last October that 114 “potentially relevant files” concerning a possible Westminster child abuse scandal had “been presumed destroyed, missing or not found”.

Yet it only hit the news a week ago today, when Mark Sedwell told the Home Affairs Select Committee. Watson was told in a written answer from the Home Office last year, though he seems to have missed the shocking significance of the revelation.

Was Inspector Watson napping on the job, or too busy playing computer games?


113 Comments

  1. 1
    Playing Party Politics. says:

    Did the answer involve Labour people rather than Tories / LibDems?

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    • 13
      Former Leicester Politician says:

      There are no Labour people involved in child abuse. None at all. Not former Leicester politicians, not current ones.

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      • 28
        Millbank says:

        Anyone who suggests that Tories might have fiddled with kids will be wiretapped through powers we’re giving ourselves in the DRIP Act.

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      • 96
        inside out says:

        Labour MP for Barking Tom Driberg boasted in his autobiography about sexual exploits with boys behind the Speakers Chair.

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    • 29
      The two Muppets says:

      Tom Watson is way out of his depth and just likes listening to the sound
      of his own voice . He probably wanted to make sure there were not
      too many Labour politicians mentioned .

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    • 33
      Nonce Finder General says:

      To clarify, not former. Have been heartily investigating and unearthing pass disgusting crimes over the last eighteen months. Shall air in the media in all good time.

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    • 69
      Ed Twelvety Balls says:

      How can anyone count to 114? There aren’t enough fingers on each hand.

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    • 75
      Tory Bare! says:

      Love that Photo! – I will never be able to look at Watson in the same way again…

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      • 77
        well there's a surprise says:

        Labour had 13 years in power to investigate
        these claims but did sweet FA.

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        • 90
          Vlad the Loudhailer says:

          No Blair issued a 100 year D Notice regarding the investigation Operation Ore. So if this is not a Labour cover up I don’t know what is.

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    • 81
      Anonymous says:

      Poor Guido, trying to blame the messenger again when we all know that the Tories are up to their fists in it.

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    • 87
      Cynic says:

      Maybe Fatson only took an interest when Labour realised they could make political capital out of this by accusing a load of dead Tories who can’t defend themselves?

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    • 102
      Corrupt Government says:

      Cameron and the BBC are all ways mentioning “historic” child abuse. The Public are probably more interested abuse that is going on now.
      Perhaps Parliaments big problem is how to reveal a few dead MPs as kiddie fiddlers without revealing the identities of current ones. Hence Butler Sloss and co.

      MPs should be a good source of information about the past and the present, especially if a good police investigation were contemplated. No sign of taking this route is suspicious of a cover up.

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  2. 2
    The Right Honourable Francis Urquhart MP says:

    Lets put a bit of stick about, Guido.

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  3. 3
    Michael Portillo says:

    I have no comment to make at this stage, thank you.

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    • 15
      George Bradshaw says:

      :(

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        Anonymous says:

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          Anonymous says:

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        • 53
          Cinna says:

          I watched Sedwell perform before the Home Affairs Committee last week, and a shifty performance it was. Under close questioning from Michael Ellis (Con) he looked really uncomfortable. Ellis got him to admit that each of those missing files had a title which might reveal something about what was in them. Sedwell agreed, but said he had not asked for the titles of the files. Ellis then opined that he might like to go and ask that question.

          Eventually Vaz got Sedwell to undertake to find out the file titles and report back by last Friday. Do we know if he did that, or his he still dragging his feet? If not, why not?

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          • Anonymous says:

            “opined”…I love that word.

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          • Anonymous says:

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          • Missing Phile says:

            The titles aren’t missing. The files are missing but the titles are catalogued. The titles haven’t been seen because they’re beung redacted by the Home Office.

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          • Cinna says:

            Ellis also asked if each file had a unique number. Sedwell said they did. Ellis asked if he had checked whether he knew if the files numbers either side of the missing files were “missing”. Sedwell didn’t know. Ellis then said that might be useful to check, to see if they were. Presumably if they aren’t then it might indicate the missing files had been “selected” to go “missing”.

            Smart boy Ellis!.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Yes excellent questions from Michael Ellis.

            Sedwell was blaming the person he brought to check these files for not telling him that these files were missing.

            He never thought to ask the person he asked to solve the matter.

            Ellis also inferred that by file numbers usually having a logical sequence of numbers that it may be possible to discover whether a selective file removal was used used rather than a category of files being removed.

            i.e. Selected plucking of files from the total.

            Excellent questions by Ellis but we have not had a reply from Sedwell either so far.

            Perhaps Theresa May can ask the man who asked the person to look at the filing system for an answer?

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          • Corrupt Government says:

            He did not reveal what marked out these particular files for destruction but confessed that it was “usual practice for files of this sort”. Oddly enough this was not picked up on and he volunteered no further explanation.

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    • 84
      Pike all Mortillo says:

      Today, I’ll be going from Pimlico to Barnes. I have my trusty copy of Magpie to guide me on the way.

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  4. 4
    Moley says:

    No problem.

    The U.S NSA will have copies of all the files and more.

    Just ask Obama.

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    • 6
      Network Rail says:

      We have thousands of files marked secret stored in lost & found if anyone is interested.

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      • 21
        Westminster Council, Parks Dept. says:

        We have plenty as well.

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        • 111
          ISIS says:

          ISIS says ” we have some memory sticks that a tourist left on a camel, very cheap for you my friend”

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      • 23
        GCHQ says:

        Have you got any of our unencrypted USB memory sticks by any chance? We’re always losing them! It’s only the general public’s emails and banking details on them, though – nothing important.

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        • 25
          CIA, Langley. says:

          We didn’t see anything.

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        • 27
          Anonymous says:

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          • Jack Regan says:

            It was Special Branch you Muppet.

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          • What she actually said was “No evidence was found to support the suggestion that any payments were made to PIE although there is evidence that small grants were made to groups related to the Exchange but that it was unlikely that the funds went to PIE”.
            This does not mean that no payments were made to PIE. It only says that you won’t find any evidence that they did make the payments alleged but they can’t deny it in case you turn up evidence that they haven’t found or that the silly bastards at PIE haven’t destroyed.

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          • Simon the PIEwoman says:

            Ask Hattie where the pies are

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          • Cinna says:

            Or H*dge the Dodge

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          • Anonymous says:

            Just ask Snowdon.
            Oh, he is now officially a traitor. I guess that is the new name for whistleblower of illegal government actions.

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  5. 5
    Anon says:

    ….Perhaps he didn,t really care,which could be the reason?…..Or, it may be something else?

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  6. 7
    Prime Minister David Cameron says:

    “Since I took over as Prime Minister we have had a plan A and a plan B,” said David Cameron.

    Buggered if I can remember either of them though!

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    • 31
      Cameron's guide to one-term government says:

      Plan A: work out the best solution to any given problem, then do the exact opposite.

      Plan B: look at the nation’s problems, then decide solving them is wayyyy too difficult/boring. Spend 4 years ramming gay marriage down the nation’s throat instead.

      Feel free to mix and match.

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  7. 8
    Toenails says:

    To be fair I suspect Tommy didn’t want to cause himself undue suffering.

    I mean anyone normal voter hearing that one of the nonces wanted to be called Tubby could have caused lots of confusion.

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  8. 9
    I like 'em big, BIIIIG! says:

    Is that a picture of Benny Hill?

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    • 40
      T. Watson fit to be pictured says:

      Big improvements on past make-overs and not a penny charged to the tax payers.

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  9. 10
    Ste says:

    Or perhaps he was focusing his energy on investigating further. The more relevant question is why the press are only now picking up on it when people have been asking questions about it for the last couple of years at least. Perhaps the press weren’t interested, or perhaps the people who Guido is being a good little lapdog for wanted it kept out of the press.

    Who knows, eh.

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  10. 11
    Mornington Crescent says:

    Too many politicians taking partisan positions on this in the run up to the General Election.

    I’m bored of this now: put the whole thing on hold until next June. As if they’re going to uncover anything meaningful after all these years; people have died, evidence has been destroyed, deals have been done.

    And shame on the MSM for not doing anything when Lord Gnome exposed all this in the 60s and 70s.

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    • 22
      The Establishment is infested with Nonces says:

      According to one former editor of a regional newspaper when Baronness Castle gave him lots of information, special branch and others prevented him from publishing. He claimed that she chose him as the national press were “not interested”

      Who is to say whether the mainstream media at the time was prevented from publishing what was known? Whether that means that they willfully refused to publish, or refused under duress?

      I hope (but do not expect) that at least one of the inquiries will get to the truth of the matter.

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  11. 12
    OK Magazine says:

    Any chance of any more snaps of him with that hair in a Bo-Peep outfit?

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  12. 14
    Ruth Smeeth (Mossad) says:

    They bomb us we bomb them.
    They don’t bomb us we bomb them.
    Simple.
    Fuck Hamas!

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  13. 16
    Anonymous says:

    Why report the expected?

    Finding the reports would have been news.

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    • 30
      Anonymous says:

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      • 35
        The Met says:

        Boaz

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      • 36
        Mornington Crescent says:

        …to do what exactly? Lose a few more?

        Idiot.

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      • 104
        Corrupt Government says:

        The Met require to be invited. It is not going to happen and Daisy May, with the assistance of the BBC and National Press is charged with controlling this damage and eventually putting it to bed, hopefully before the next election.

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  14. 18
    tom says:

    My intern wiped my sweaty brow when I learnt that nugget. Another reminder to oneself….He who shouts loudest.

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  15. 19
    bergen says:

    Who will play Holmes to Watson ?

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  16. 20
    J Savile, MP says:

    Nothing like that ever happened. And you’d better keep your gob shut coz I know people.

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  17. 24
    Anonymous says:

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      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

      Whenever the authorities in future ask phone compaies/ISPs for certain info, they can say that the info has been lost/destroyed in a server crash/fire/flood.

      What’s sauce for the establishment goose is sauce for the corporate gander :-)

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    • 68
      Cinna says:

      “Likely destroyed”? I’ll bet they are, and if not soon will be.

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      • 112
        We are normal and we want our freedom says:

        No way destroyed, the’ll be sitting somewhere in a big office on the Thames, or Putney. They have a value that keeps on giving.

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  18. 26
    Grumpy old man says:

    “Was Inspector Watson napping on the job, or too busy playing computer games?” Could have been sighing quietly in a relieved manner over a Harriet PIE?

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  19. 37
    Adam Werrity says:

    Oh I’m so excited I just p’d myself.

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  20. 42
    You must be joking says:

    Are they trying to use what’s happening in Gaza and Israel to get us crap’s minds off the nonces that the establishment are trying to hide.

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    • 47
      Who nose says:

      It’s a clusterfuck of bad news shovelling at Millbank this week…Israel, DRIP Act, Child abuse inquiry, cabinet reshuffle…Cameron’s worst week in politics I’d guess.

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  21. 43
    Anonymous says:

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  22. 51
    Anonymous says:

    +10,000

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  23. 62
    Blue Peter Goldfish says:

    Tom Watson.

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  24. 63
    Establishment says:

    The people who seek power in our society do so not out of a sense of duty, but out of a sense of entitlement. And when someone questions their motives, their morals or their actions, there is a mass closing of ranks to protect “their own”.

    Expect to see differing stances from the various areas of the media over the next few months, I wonder whether the Murdoch press might try to use this to show the Government that Leveson shouldn’t be implemented, whereas the Telegraph might choose to take a much softer approach to help mitigate damage.

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  25. 64
    You must be joking says:

    Why is Sky and the BBC got fkin yapping women on overtalking what’s happening, if this what women bishops and bloody women MP’s are going on yapping about nothing then we are really in deep doo doo

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  26. 72
    Stan Collimore says:

    +1

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  27. 73
    Cinna says:

    Religion will go the way of primary school teaching. It will become an all woman “profession”.

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    • 76
      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

      Well women are more gullible and easily brainwashed by mumbo-jumbo than men.

      Karl Marx was 100% right about religion.

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    • 108
      Early Riser says:

      It always has been a profession for old women.

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  28. 74
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    And this is why the only way the victims will get justice and the British people will accept that there hasn’t been any party political point scoring or establishment cover up, is if a well respected anti-pedo judge from America is brought in to head the inquiry and the help of the FBI’s anti-pedo unit is engaged also.

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  29. 78
    Oh, really? says:

    Or maybe Tom is in a bit of a sweat over what some “missing” files might reveal about several senior Labour figures with their fingers in the PIE?

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  30. 79
    Moley says:

    There have long been rumours that it suited our parliamentary process to keep things quiet.

    The way it worked was that the intelligence services report to the PM, the PM briefs the Chief whip, and hey presto, MPs follow the Party line as if by magic.

    There are a lot of people who knew and a lot of people who know, but I rather doubt if any of them will be making their information public.

    Did by chance, a lot of files disappear in the last days of the Labour Government?

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  31. 80
    Burger Faced says:

    “Was Inspector Watson napping on the job, or too busy playing computer games?”

    Anyone who knows him, will of course know that he was to busy stuffing that fat face.

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  32. 86

    He would have been munching on pies and doughnuts!

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  33. 88
    Inspector Fatso says:

    Was Inspector Watson napping on the job, or
    too busy playing computer games?

    No I ate too many pork pies while listening to teenage pop. Buuuuurrrpp!

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  34. 94
    Michael West says:

    I know it really isn’t a laughing matter however I spat my coffee all over my laptop at calling him the ” Nonce finder general” :)

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  35. 95
    Is he here? says:

    From Graun comments section

    Wenchlover Bangorstu
    14 July 2014 11:21am

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    6
    I’ve had a labour activist admit to me he uses social media to covertly associate the tory party with the crimes of the yewtree investigation. He does this willingly with falsehoods and half truths and he -knows- he is spreading propaganda.
    It isn’t anything surprising. I expect these udnerhand activities take place all the time but it was a shock hearing it come out of the man’s mouth so brazenly and honest!

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    • 101

      All you need ask is whether any living members of the Conservative Party have used their positions of influence to abuse young children or cover up abuse.

      It is hardly rocket science.

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  36. 100
    Where's my fucking owl says:

    If Watson has had evidence of criminal activity and has been sitting on it for some time then he should be arrested convicted and imprisoned .

    You simply cannot bugger about when the interests of young children are involved.

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  37. 107
    Anonymous says:

    “Was Inspector Watson napping on the job”
    Or is this entire fiasco, much like the housing bubble, turning into something quite alimentary my exceedingly dear Homes.

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  38. 110
    A cheeky scouser says:

    McVey has just come out of Downing street looking like Tommy Smith on a bad day.

    You should see what she has been doing with your money in Parliamentary Expenses.

    Regular four figure claims for accommodation presumably because her main home is up North.

    For good measure she then gets you to pay her TV Licence on top notwithstanding that most people pay for this from net income for their main home.

    She would no doubt argue she has complied with the rules as at times she can display attention to detail e.g. a claim for £2.40 for drinks on 5th March 2014.

    What goes round comes around.

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  39. 113
    Don't know what we want but we know how to get it says:

    You have probably seem certain lists like many of us. What is clear, is that it’s fully diverse and inclusive. All parties, religions and rock and roll singers are represented. Otherwise Mr Blair would have been reported to the BBC. Can I add ‘Robustly’ here as it always makes my clueless drivel seem heartfelt.

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