July 8th, 2014

WATCH: Farage Says Pay Politicians More

Remember Nigel Farage? The slayer of the political class, popper of the bloated balloon and self-declared warrior for the people. Well he wants to pay MPs more:

“Would we object to 650 people earning a bit more money? I don’t think we would… I haven’t thought about it but we could certainly pay them more than that. Why don’t we say that if we paid MPs the same as the local headmaster of the local comprehensive, that would be about right. £90,000-£100,000.”

That didn’t take long, did it?


  1. 1
    Parliament is a Gay Disco says:

    He is right – otherwise you end up folk like we have now able to self-fund their political careers and that’s worked out well hasn’t it.

  2. 2
    selroberts says:

    Pay them more, but reduce their numbers. Seems a good idea to me.
    About 450 of them should be enough.

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    Mike K. says:

    I completely agree. Pay them about £90,000 PA, and then bar them from ANY OTHER JOB AT ALL.

    No “advisor” roles, no “part-time board member”, etc. No other income at all…

  4. 4
    Anonymous says:

    The Junket King is begging for more public money again.

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    a says:

    He’s right, it’s a good idea as long as we prevent politicians from having any outside business interests

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    Andrew Efiong says:

    Call me old fashioned but I thought you set wages at the level to avoid vacancies!

    There’s no shortage of candidates for constituency selection which suggest wages are already suitable.

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    Oh, really? says:

    He is a business man.

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    Diane Abbot says:

    BBC appearance fees?

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    Simple Simon says:

    Pay them the average wage of their constituents. But dock pay for not showing up for work, eg Gordon Brown.

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    Anonymong says:

    Farage again comes out with something sensible and the political freaks wonder why he isn’t being villified for it.

    As others here have said, pay them more, control their outside interests more tightly and dramatically reduce their expenses and perks.

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    NUT says:

    So can a headteacher have non exec directorships on the boards of say a commercial builder or a supplier of Educational IT equipment?

    Do MPs also want to take a massive cut in holiday entitlement?

  12. 12
    BBC says:

    We pay by the circumference now Diane.

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    Mycroft says:

    Indeed he is.

    We need to kill political dynasties at birth.

    If your parent was an MP, you can’t be, you are barred.

    That is an important block on isolation from reality.

    The HoP is not a place for hereditary games, we have one of those too and again they have proven worthless.

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    Noncesense says:

    I notice no journalist has been asking rent-a-quote Margaret Hodge about her own abuse cover-up scandal. Good old MSM.

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    Old Salvo says:

    “If I earnt an extra £30k a year I could have paid for the upkeep of the duckhouse myself”

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    Fog says:

    We don’t need 650 MPs, for a start. But for now we’re stuck with them. The MPs wouldn’t sort this and the boundaries issue because self-interest came first. David Davis voted against it because he may have lost his constituency.

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    Singal Male says:

    Who would be the last person to ask about the wage of the Westminster Wankers?

  18. 18
    Neil Hamilton, voice of UKIP says:

    Farage is God.

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    Junkers says:

    You don’t need ANY MPs matey.

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    Mycroft says:

    Absolutely right.

    500 in the HoP.

    250 in the ‘New’ House of Representatives (selected on proportion from the GE results) kill the HoL.

    Simple, all paid the same. £100k. index linked.

  21. 21
    Steve Miliband says:

    Anyone would think he was standing as an MP next year.

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    TheBogmonster says:

    Yeah pay them £100k pa but force them to live in a average hotel when they sit in parliament, no property allowances.

    No extras, turn it into a job, make them work for that fat pay check.

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    Ockham's Razor says:

    Like the argument.

    Trouble is that would also prefer it if some 50% of the vacancies were left open.

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    Eurovisualist says:

    Pay them properly. 100K is about right. But no more fiddles: MPs constituency offices should be public property and MPs should not get allowances to run them or rent them. They should be banned from employing any relatives, serving local councillors or the relatives of any other MPs or local councilllors. MPs should be made to stay in a hall of residence when in London and have no subsidised food and drink.

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    Restless in Godalming says:

    I couldn’t employ a half decent sales rep on an MPs current salary, as anyone half decent is on at least £80k basic. It’s no wonder we have such crappy MPs at the moment.

    Drop the number of MPs to around 350 instead of the current 600+, lift the salary to £100k pa so that more competent people can come in, kill the housing benefit and the more silly unverifiable expenses, get a proper independent body to authorise expenses. Problem solved.

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    Ockham's Razor says:

    Well said!

    Thank you for proving that not all Anonymongs are tits.

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    Anonymous says:

    make them work a 240 day year as well like the rest of us.
    Oh they can have a second job working the commoners bar for peanuts after the extra tax has been paid.

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    Nice to know you care says:

    Why do we need politicians in the house of corruption, we are part of the EU corruption surely that’s all we need for now, get rid of the EU and keep say 200 MPs and pay them by results as defined by themselves as they struggle up the greasy pole, if they don’t meet their own targets sack them and have a local vote, make sure that their contracts are water tight and not porous as per the lawyers these governments use, if they misbehave we could easily put them in jail or against a wall, if we put the against the wall we could charge television rights and get a return on the price of their trial. .

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    now then now then says:

    no just pay the local approved skule head the same as politicoes

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    The Growler says:

    Sure pay them £100K but there must be a quid pro quo maybe even less of them, maybe 400, they should have no outside interests (other jobbies on the side) their offices manned by civil servants as in the states, yup pay them more BUT reduce their number.

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    Parrrp says:

    The headmaster is paid too much for a start so using his wage as a baseline is wrong.
    Besides with all the whistles and bells an MP’s income is above that of a headmasters already.
    As it stands with the EU calling the shots I think MP’s should be earning fuck all at the moment but if we leave the EU our selection process should be stricter.
    At least 10 years in private employment plus a thorough CRB check and a cap on the amount of fucking lawyers/solicitors who can sit in parliament.
    Then a basic wage of 65k with the rest made up of performance related pay.

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    The Growler says:

    You cannot afford that!

  33. 33
    Pol Pot says:

    Is that you Kim?

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    Mycroft says:

    No, we can’t apply the employment technique of the lowest common denominator.

    Doing that means only that those with wealth go into politics and that has proven a disaster previously.

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    Ockham's Razor says:

    Margaret Hodge?

    Not whilst there are still dogs on the street.

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    The Growler says:

    Andy, bang on they would scratch each others eyes out to become an MP, remember when they were going to rearrange the constituencies (roughly equal number of voters in each constituency)

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    táxpáyér says:

    Why not put desired salary on the voting slip at election time? let the public decide.

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    Oh Nigel says:


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    Anonymous says:

    Sound common sense to reduce numbers and raise the salary to about £100k. Also give them a standard admin/support allowance and a travel allowance related to the constituency. Bravo Farage!

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    Anon says:

    …So becoming an mp is ALL about the money?….

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    táxpáyér says:

    Prefer the house of repeal where their job is to remove bad laws.

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    Vote Dave? Get stuffed says:

    Pay peanuts get peados.

  43. 43
    Sony says:


    Pay them less and reduce their numbers.

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    Nigel Mirage says:

    As a current MEP in the European Parliament with ambitions to become an MP in the House of Commons, can we not have pay parity with the Gravy Train Travellers in Brussels ???????

    Otherwise, I might just keep my snout in the European trough.

  45. 45
    A sensible person says:


    Pay them the UK going rate…£25,000 per annum

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    Mycroft says:

    30million+ voting age? (big guess) 400 seems to be too few, 500 seems close to the lowest limit to my mind.

    A real House of Reps with the same powers as the HoL has would also be a brake on excesses as accounts has to be passed as fit and proper by the other.

    No more ‘expenses’ just a set allowance that is the same for all.

  47. 47
    Ockham's Razor says:

    Your statement makes an assumption that each post of this type is required.

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    Victor Meldrew ( Ukip ) says:

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    Mycroft says:

    Would you care to explain your reasoning?

    Or is that just another foamy-mouthed ‘reaction’ posting?

  50. 50
    Ockham's Razor says:


    Israel is the aggressor for retaliating. Hamas are the victims for attacking first.

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    Drummond Base says:

    £60k + expenses + a golden pension is already a lot. Nobody’s going to get poor doing this job.

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    Osama the Nazarene2 says:

    Hear hear. Limp Dumb sex pests wanted to cut down number MPs to 500 intheir last manifesto. Don’t hear about that nowadays.

    MPs should only get an increase as a productivity payment. 500 troughers is plenty.

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    The Growler says:

    “Do MPs also want to take a massive cut in holiday entitlement? ” now you are being silly they want more holidays

  54. 54
    Noncesense says:

    Baroness Butler-Sloss is heading the nonce inquiry. :-D That’s a good one. An establishment c-unt to head the whitewash.

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    Anonymous says:

    I don’t agree with those here who say they can’t have outside interests. What about the farm owner who has a manager running the farm while he is a full time politician ? Or the family business owner who’s son goes into politics, but one day will inherit the assets of the business.. Or the successful businessman who ‘retires’ from full time working and puts ‘something back’.

    I think they SHOULD be paid a decent stick, and the real truth is that £100k is not that much in the grander scheme of things, but they should lose the ‘allowances’ that mean they hire their wife or lover or whatever. The state should also provide for the staff, but must have the ability to hire them (and should manage the hiring too) on a contract similar to the life of the parliament, after all there’s no NEED for the office worker of a politician to have the same political leanings of their MP, just that they do a competent job.

    They put in long hours, take all sorts of stick (much warranted but some less so) and have no security of tenure. I think they should be at a level similar to the local GP.

    .. and, no, I’m not one of them, or related to any of them in any way. I just think that they get paid too little, so are always interested in the dodgy top up !

  56. 56
    Joey Junckers says:

    Pay them what you like. They are of no interest to us and of no use to you.

  57. 57
    Anonymous says:

    there is nothing on this earth that could make me listen to RB for 9:11.

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    Mycroft says:

    Well, that is true, but then if we don’t all make that assumption then why have any at all?

    We, the people are governed, this is sensible, but a goodly part of that governance is to be represented, that means constituencies, the assumption I make is that if there is a constituency it should have an MP… I’m old fashioned that way. :)

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    Make sure you clean behind the fridge Harriet says:

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    Mornington Crescent says:

    …and here’s your fee in a brown envelope for saying that, Neil.

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    táxpáyér says:

    Why would anyone be interested in the idiotic spoutings of russel brand?

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    Oh Nigel says:

    There’s nothing TO explain.

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    At least spare me the bullshit please says:

    Serving your country used to mean sacrifice not a ‘look how much that Hunt earns compared to me’ shit.
    The nobility came from the sacrifice as much if not more than the job.
    Apart from lower ranking soldiers all the other public servants in this country do not deserve the adulation they get from being in a ‘noble’ profession.
    As someone said yesterday there is nothing noble about being in a well paid rock solid job that will attract a good pension after only 30 years of mediocre service.

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    what a gay dave says:

    Why would anyone give a dossier outlining wrong doing to someone who is included on the dossier?

    Wouldnt you expect that dossier to go missing?

  65. 65
    Lord Hutton of Dulux says:

    I’ve got a few spare cans of whitewash if you need them, Liz.

  66. 66
    Leon Brittan says:

    You hear? I was accused by WOMAN who alleges I r*ped her when she was over 18. Did you hear that? Yeah! She was an adult woman. Over 18. A female. Adult. Woman. Make sure you note that she’s a woman aged over 18. That should be a nicely timed red herring, I mean example of transparent news reporting.

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    Socialism = Starvation says:

    Ban ministerial salaries, a paid office under the Crown should disbar one from membership of the House of Commons.

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    M says:

    Cut out the expenses racket in the EU Nigel and the tax payer can pay you with the cash it’s saved us , no ?

    In other words earn it

  69. 69
    Mycroft says:

    Unless I could crash an aeroplane into his abode of course.

    Former halucinagenic drug taker ponces-off about things he hasn’t a f’cking clue about and sounds like a pillock breathing nitrous-oxide to boot.

    Oh lord, media slebs are the vilest of the vile at times.

    Please STFU, mong.

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    Anonymous says:

    can’t put even one kid through school on 60K, and NO I’m not talking about boarding school. A London day school is more than £5k a term.

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    Cream Pie anyone? says:

    He only trusted Harriet to entertain the wives not the kids.

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    Dangerous Brian says:

    Will paying them more stop them cheating, raping, abusing, stealing and generally feathering their own nests to the detriment of the general population?
    If so give them the money now, if not kick them all out and start again.

  73. 73

    Fixing the lobby problem would have to go hand-in-hand with a pay rise, which of course could only be justified once full Sovereignty is restored and the economy properly fixed.

    Reuducing Short Money could partly fund this.

    There are a few current MP’s who do deserve more, but the majority do not.

    Vote UKIP :-D

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    Ukip Arsewipe says:

    He is not like a politician more like a man in street.

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    All aboard the gravy train....kids go free says:

    Slimy fucker like all the rest. Ok pay them the same as a headmaster or more,but then take away all expenses and the second home allowance. Its a job….don’t like the pay then fuck off and find another one like the rest of us have to do.

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    Mycroft says:

    Oh, it WAS just a foamy-mouthed reaction then, glad we got that straight then.


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    Winston says:

    Farage talking sense as usual. Guido judged his readers wrong, again.

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    Mycroft says:

    You know that is a very damned good idea!

    A proper and rightful job that needs be done.

    I’ll steal that from you if I may.


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    a non says:

    Is that you Harriet?

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    Anonymous says:

    I have my doubts, let us first get out of the EU then we should look at it, Then I would not agree to a pay increase as it stands now, with the EU making all the laws the chamber in parliament is empty my member of parliament has written 17 books since he has been there

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    Nice to know you care says:

    Nige you need to show you are honest and are here to do public service, if you show your only out for the money and the power then you will be the loser, even the braindead are starting to realise they are poor due to political corruption.

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    Psychotic, predatory, pedophile, violent, socialist, necrophiliac, BBC light entertainment star says:

    Of course this fuck wants more tax payer’s cash,,,if he enters Westminster he’ll have a huge hole in his finances, considering how much the EU thows at him

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    Everyone in Westminster says:


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    All aboard the gravy train....kids go free says:

    Spot on there. Not too hard to implement?

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    MPs are out of date Technology says:

    There is now no need for us to have a member of Parliament anyway.

    We no longer need a representative to speak on our behalf because we can’t all fit inside the Parliament.

    The Technology now exists for every last one of us to have our say and place a vote.

  86. 86
    Anonymous says:

    £100K salary before tax isn’t going to put of corruption, that could buy families without a shred of evidence linked to the MP directly. Way back when, MP’s were entirely supported by their outside interests, so whatever issue or policy they supported in govt they had to live with outside, and all of them had relative real world experience. Now we have people who’ve gone from Uni to working in govt/state and into politics – many have no real world working experience or have any kind of clue what businesses and people face in this world of red tape and control they’re creating.

    A degree in sociology meight give you in an insight into propoganda but not economics. The 2008-9 fisco was led by an ex History professor, no amount of paying people £100k is going to change attitude and experience.

    If we have a real democracy where people were able to vote on properly debated issues supported by real life experts in that field on both sides, that might have something.

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    Sir Dishonourable Former MP says:

    Being an MP was great. I had lots of young boys and BBC presenters to choose from!

  88. 88
    Jack Harman says:

    Harriet is not very domesticated anyway. We employ servants on our expenses to rear the children, make their food and clean the house.

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    Bob Crow's Ghost says:

    If London Underground workers can be replaced by electronic ticketing then there’s no reason not to replace MPs with electronic voting.

  90. 90
    Noncesense says:

    I’ll save everyone from wasting their time waiting for this inquiry and tell you right now what Butler-Sloss will conclude.

    “We have found no evidence of a p*edophile network involving politicians with links to an aide at Downing Street in the 1980s. We have found no evidence of a deliberate cover-up involving the disappearance of the files. It appears the files were accidentally dropped into a bin which was later emptied. The files did not contain anything of material importance in any case. It is the finding of this inquiry that all the allegations are baseless and the accusers are mentally unbalanced attention seekers. It is the finding of this inquiry that Elm Guest House was merely a bed and breakfast used by adults. It is the finding of this inquiry that no politician alive or dead has ever broken the law. We are satisfied that this matter has been investigated fully and we hereby faithfully submit our conclusions.”

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    Nice to know you care says:

    Of course it’s going to be an establishment whitewash job, you didn’t expect truth and honesty and fairness to the victims, the clamour will just grow and grow until it’s sorted out, throwing a sacrificial lamb out to the crowd won’t work anymore.

  92. 92

    Pay them more, with a weighting for those who have to travel far, and abolish all expenses and perks.

  93. 93
    A Tory Party Spokesmong says:

    Pleaaaaaase don’t vote UKIP! PLEEEEAAAASSSSSEEEE!!!

    We know we’ve been completely shit, we know Dave’s broken each and every one of his promises, but if we get back in in 2015, we promise we won’t break our promises again! We’ll start being competent, honest we will! Pleeeeeaaaaassssee!

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    ? says:

    Of course not all jobs are the same but we have been told for years about the City of London needing to pay the highest wages to attract the best talent.
    Look what happened there.
    I could have fucked things up for 10% of their wages if I knew that’s what the city wanted.
    So it doesn’t always follow.
    In fact some of the most honest hardworking people complete with bags of common sense are stacking shelves in Asda.
    Any one of them could do a better job than most of the clowns in Westminster and would do if the pole wasn’t so well greased.
    Wages aren’t the problem.

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    Anonymous says:

    I think there is some kind of security of tenure that makes a salary feasible after losing office even, it was in the news years ago

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    Mycroft says:

    Everyone is going to be ‘establishment’… but… Lizzie’s husband was a philanderer and she may well be a bad choice for those hoping for an insider.

    He liked prostitutes and was caught.

    Check it out for yourself News Of the World 1988.

    Plus she does seem to live by an honour code of some description.

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    MT says:

    Geedo editing for his own gain. Sorry for his bosses gain.

    “If we had a sovereign parliament that actually ran this country and was directly responsible for the rules and regulations that controlled our industries, that determined whether we succeeded or failed in the world, I would have no problem in paying MPs more.

    “If we paid MPs the same as the local headmaster of the local comprehensive, that would be about right. It would be £90,000 to £100,000.”



  98. 98

    If we had fewer MPs, an even higher percentage of them would be on the payroll vote, lackeys of government or the official Opposition. We need more independent MPs, not fewer.

  99. 99

    And MPs can have regular inspections from OfGov, to see whether they are doing their jobs properly (whatever their jobs are – does anyone know?)

  100. 100
    Guy News Room says:

    Owen Jones Sparks ‘Hatred’ Backlash Over Rolf Harris Assault Claim

    Owen Jones Sparks ‘Hatred’ Backlash Over Going Straight Claim”

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    MT says:

    Lib Dems, due their actions, will have successfully led by example and cut their own numbers drastically in twelve months time.

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    Kitty says:


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    MT says:

    Since when did serving as a parliamentarian give them the right to spend taxpayer money on a private education for their offspring?

  104. 104
    MT says:

    Brown envelope? Shurely not.

    They’re reserved for donations to the Office of the Prime Mentalist.

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    Mycroft says:

    As the entire UK is embroiled in the ‘scandal of the child’ I have another suggestion.

    If you’re an MP, you can remain one for as long as the Public vote you to stay.

    But as soon as you become a Minister, you’re given a termination date.

    At the next election you can not put yourself up for election for one entire term.

    This will avoid MPs getting their feet under the table and troughing and exerting their powers to excess.

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    Truth will- o-u-t says:

    Piss poor selective reporting again.
    Similar to GF’s charts!
    Farage repeated the IF element again before accepting the next caller’s question.

  107. 107
    Jack Ketch says:

    I said to the policeman “Come on, what have I done?”
    He read out in Court, “The accused said “OH! What HAVE I done!”

  108. 108
    Anonymous says:

    nige trying to bribe MPs to support withdrawal. democracy?

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    Hear All See All says:

    Superb idea

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    Anonymous says:

    Because he spends a lot of time visiting students around the country and promoting communism, RB wants more socialism ie welfare for welfare applicants. You need to take note because of the high level of youth unemployment especially outside the city, and world religious leaders who are also promoting communism.

    When you are short of arguments you take the piss

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    Monty Django's Flying Circus says:

    Outstanding idea… !

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    Jack Ketch says:

    FYI Before WW2 people appointed as a minister had resign and stand in a bye-election. Such by-elections were habitually (but not always) uncontested. It was a method whereby constituents could approve of their elected member taking on extra work that may affect his performance representing them.

  113. 113
    Truth Will-o-u-t says:

    Ignore GF’s selective extract, listen to the full answer Farage gave to this question

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    Ah! now then, now then says:

    If they ban peeeedofilia, it will just be driven underground!!

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    Taxfodder says:

    Frankly “IF” and thats a big if….

    MP’s were tasked and paid on results and sacked with no golden anything for poor performance or bringing the job into disrepute …then sure rewards for good work and results deserves a fair and decent salary..like most of us.

    Nobody can argue with that, except the cretins we have in Westminster at the mo are mostly downright dishonest work shy greedy and gutless, hardly worth a minimum wage!

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    Michael Cooper says:

    Yes pay them more to get better people, who would give up a salary in,admin,defence, health, finance/economics or education to be an MP at the present rate? But get rid of half of them, if you add,Westminster,Commons and Lords ,plus Scottish Assembly,plus Cardiff then that is many many more representatives that US congress senate combined for the whole of the States

  117. 117
    Truth Will-o-u-t says:

    You seem to suggest you would accept a pie-man as an MP

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    If it works for justice says:

    Why not select MPs the same way we choose a jury

  119. 119
    Truth Will-o-u-t says:

    NUT seems a good pen name

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    Mycroft says:

    Just as any promotion is equally bribery!!!

    If you have to actually ‘do more’ and take on greater responsibility then you generally get a pay rise to recompense you for the additional effort.

    Using your own rather ‘strange’ thought process then when you obtained promotion you considered you were being bribed and reported your boss to the Police.

    Dear lord, whatever next?

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    23rd Century nursery rhyme says:

    Ten Front Benchers’ sitting on a wall
    Ten Front Benchers’ sitting on a wall
    And If Ten Front Benchers’ should unintentionally fall
    There’ll be Ten Front Benchers’ sitting on the wall

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    Pay them more but do not let them make silly expense claims.

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    Jack Ketch says:

    Sir Oswald Mosely had the right idea of reserving a number of Parliamentary seats for specific professions–doctors, teachers, businessmen, legal profession, trade unionists, military who were to be elected by their own professional bodies only. The HoL should fill this function–but it doesn’t. Such a scheme would ensure at least a handful of non-lurkers in Parliament.

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    Anonymous says:

    Where Can I watch the whole interview, Guido?

  125. 125
    Truth Will-o-u-t says:

    And a job description might be helpful.
    If nothing else it might help the electorate understand why they actually exist at all

  126. 126
    Herr Hitler says:

    OPERATION YEWTREE/FERNBRIDGE is a ROYAL MILITARY POLICE INVESTIGATION – YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rffxYixHZ94&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop

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    Truth Will-o-u-t says:

    agreed. 11 seconds is far too long.

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    Mycroft says:

    Because then we would be entirely in the hands of an over-wheening bureaucracy as they would simply confound a tyro in the World of power.

    But I do like the idea if it could be, perhaps, applied to a House of Representatives.

    The principle could be engineered to provide a genuine localised voice in such a house.

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    Persona Non Grata says:

    Good question from committee. Were files either side of Nonce files missing?

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    Stating the fucking obvious says:

    Nobody should be allowed to become an MP until they are at least 40.

    End of.

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    Nice to know you care says:

    A better check would be bring the files either side of the missing files and prove the files either side of the missing files are the original files on either side of the missing files, trust what someone says then doesn’t come into it.

  132. 132
    Truth Will-o-u-t says:

    Sorry I’ve lost my reading glasses.
    If you’ve written something along the lines of “voters shouldn’t trust us” I’ll go with that.
    Roll on May 2015

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    táxpáyér says:

    Already done it’s called the party system (establishment have a nice party at our expense) and little black books.

    I do wonder whether voting should be private.

  134. 134
    Truth Will-o-u-t says:

    GF misled his readers again by incomplete extract of what Farage actually said by missing out a caveat, repeated later.

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    Tw*twatch says:

    If Brand is such a communist, let him give his houses to the state.

    He’d better go into politics as he’s a rubbish comedian: about as funny as a cancer diagnosis.

  136. 136
    Truth Will-o-u-t says:

    I repeat comment to previous poster:-
    GF misled his readers again by incomplete extract of what Farage actually said by missing out a caveat, repeated later

  137. 137
    FairBobby says:

    When you consider that some headmasters and police chief constables get paid twice as much as MPs there may be some merit in Nigel Farage’s suggestion. With provisos. Reduce the number of MPs by a third and scrap entirely the House of Lords. 700 mouths (unelected) glued to the teat of undeserved privilege diminishes our claim to being a democracy. Is there another country, anywhere, with an unelected second house?

  138. 138
    Anonymous says:

    I think Farage’s line of reasoning is that when we leave the EU and repatriate powers back to the UK then there will be a lot more work to be done by the MPs in the HoP that would justify a pay rise.


  139. 139
    The Establishment Rules OK says:

    Her husband, known as deadloss Sloss during his days as a junior barrister, is a frisky monkey http://www.electromagnetism.demon.co.uk/zbbsloss1.htm

  140. 140
    Lard Pressclott of Beams, Bellies, Banjos, Bulimia, two bog seats, two Jags & Shags. says:

    Eh ? IQ above 40 ???

    Half the Labour benches would be empty.

  141. 141
    Persona Non Grata says:

    A bit of a tongue twister but yes. Pity someone didn’t think ahead and ask for the files to be brought to the hearing. Forewarned now though. Shredder working overtime as we speak.

  142. 142
    All aboard the gravy train....kids go free says:

    BBC Parliament debating slavery bil and neither BBC or Sky showing live select com. I guess abusing children is not that important and transparancy can go hide in a dark corner. Interesting that Reckless landing a telling blow in asking fr the names of the missing files. It was admited the names do exist but he could not give them as he had not seen them. WTF

  143. 143
    Revd Flowers says:

    Did you say ‘line’ ?

  144. 144
    táxpáyér says:

    Is this going to be an “Antonia de Sancha”?

  145. 145
    Truth Will-o-u-t says:

    Blimey !
    If true – explanation would be helpful

  146. 146
    Pol Pot says:

    Length of Video – 9:11

    And he has a beard


    I don’t think so.

  147. 147
    Gooey Blob says:

    Not a terribly good idea Nigel. You’re clearly no different to the rest of them.

  148. 148
    BBC says:

    Hamas – Freedom Fighters

  149. 149
    selecting your MP says:

    Sell the MP seat to the highest bidder.
    If a bigger bid comes in later a new kid on the block can take their place.

    Don’t knock until you can see how it works.

  150. 150
    Truth Will-o-u-t says:

    GF misled his readers again by incomplete extract of what Farage actually said by missing out a caveat along the lines you suggest, which he repeated later

  151. 151
    Baroness Snooty Fuckwit says:

    How unfortunate!

  152. 152
    Chukka Umunna says:

    Voters are as thick as fuck, which is why Labour will win.

  153. 153
    Tony Blair's Executive Summary says:


  154. 154
    Gooey Blob says:

    The only fair way would be to cut their numbers, then pay them the money that saved. Make them earn that rise through efficiency savings.

  155. 155
    Wipe up says:

    Wipe up

  156. 156
    Mycroft says:

    …and the same ‘thinking’ (charitable word :) ) lead us down the road of Postal Voting… that works well doesn’t it!

    Just sayin’…

  157. 157
    Ockham's Razor says:

    Whilst I follow your perfectly valid argument, it still leaves an assumption that there needs to be 650 constituencies.

    That is the issue to which I refer. I maintain that we do not require that many and that the numbers could be reduced to 400-450 without loss of facility.

    To follow on from this contention, too many MPs attempt to behave like glorified councillors. This is done so they can play to the media whereas, if they had less time, they would be forced to concentrate on their real tasks, to make better laws.

    Finally, as we have far too many laws, there should be some sort of ruling that no new law should be passed until ten others have been repealed.

    If we followed this course for two full parliamentary terms, the country might even become worth living in again. Regrettably, we cannot legislate against the weather even though there are MPs who think we can.

    Vote UKIP :-D

  158. 158
    Mycroft says:

    It’s a good idea.

    He’s clearly and demonstrably different to the rest of them.

  159. 159
    Persona Non Grata says:

    Watch this video. Simon Danzcuk actually breaks down when describing child abuse cases that have been brought to his attention by the victims themselves. Harrowing.

  160. 160
    Norma Stitz says:

    They are already on £100K plus. Just put the wife on at £40K and Bob’s yer uncle.

  161. 161
    Mycroft says:

    No, I go with 500 and the £100k. A set of allowances that cover a reasonable secretarial role etc.

    But I also consider the HoL to be a waste and an anachronism, replace it with a House of Representatives numbering 250 and drawn from 250 regions, elected on a proportional system based on the First past the post Gen Election.

    There job to be mainly revisionist, to ensure laws are ‘fit for purpose’ after enactment and to kill the ‘dead laws’ on the books.

  162. 162
    Noncesense says:

    One thing we’ve learned from scandals. If you want to commit murder or abuse children and get away with it, become a politician, a police officer, an NHS executive, a judge, a corporate executive or a clergyman.

  163. 163
    Gooey Blob says:

    Sadly, voting Ukip anywhere other than a safe Labour seat is likely to put Ed Miliband in number ten.

  164. 164
    Gooey Blob says:

    …or go and work for the BBC.

  165. 165

    Mr F A Rage lining up with all the other troughers, s’game innit.

  166. 166
    Cleggy at his best!!!! says:

    The ethical LibDems, the party that says it wants better representation, scuppered that idea. Well, Cleggy in one of his tantrum moods did. He’s a man of principle, so many in fact that you can take your pick.

  167. 167
    Boyo in Llanelli says:

    Or sheep in the Fields.

  168. 168
    Not the sharpest tool in the box ( ... that's Santiago's, right Jack?) says:

    And it’s taken the quick-witted woman this long to be upset at being asked to do this.
    Special needs for sure.

    When will she respond to finding out about Jack’s black cock fantasies?

  169. 169
    Mycroft says:

    That’s easy.

    The RMP do not a have the same tenets of investigation as do the Met or other civil forces.

    It means that anything they are involved in will have only a set course and certain leads cannot be followed.

    It’s a pretty common and standard manner by which an investigation gets only the mainline of leads followed.

    Additionally there are procedural difficulties with the CPS and the RMP that often result in the former ‘having’ to drop a good case.

    That’s why.

  170. 170
    Anonymous says:

    Nigel is spot on.

    I don’t mind paying £100k for MP’s who actually run this country rather than rubber stamp and gold plate EU laws.

    I’d pay £1m a year. That would put the wind up them.

  171. 171
    Chipalata says:

    Lard Prescott is one of the few – when he was born he halved the IQ of his street.

  172. 172
    If it works for justice says:

    If all new MPs were chosen out of a hat eventually no one would be in the house who wanted to be and any that did it was by chance,you could keep Parties but that would mean all electorate saying who they preferred to go in the hat for,which I don’t think would be difficult to do,then what a country
    House of Rep no brainer

  173. 173
    Shame says:

    Fawkes is really heading down the drain.

  174. 174
    Ockham's Razor says:

    Oh dear. Then we must differ. Your solution will be costlier and we get another “elective dictatorship” load of goons.

  175. 175
    giant gonad says:

    Fawkes is on the payroll.

  176. 176
    Anonymous says:

    Maybe MPs should earn about the same as City traders? Wonder if Farage would be happy with that.

  177. 177
    Spartacus says:

    or pay loads and get bankers

  178. 178
    Spartacus says:

    there has never been any shortage of candidtes – supply and demand

  179. 179
    Spartacus says:

    so we are back to the smears

    lame gwiders, lame

  180. 180
    The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist says:

    Only Nigel Farage can over evaluate himself. What a trougher! He is on the EU gravy train and plans to park his piggy arse at Westminster and no doubt the house of lords. Oink Oink!

    Get out of Europe and buy piggy Farage his last pint! Hunt! He makes Mad Margaret Moron look like a philanthropist.

  181. 181
    Mycroft says:

    It is good to hold differing views, nowt wrong with that and I appreciate comment that opposes mine.

    I think it would cost a little less overall, but I agree not much!

    The House of Reps would be a genuine 9 to 5 job, part of it’s remit would be to trawl legislation and ‘put it right’ where necessary.

    Thinking about that due to lower amount of constituency time the salary might not need to be £100k and perhaps £60k would be more suitable reward.

    I think that all and any system is to some extent an elected dictatorship.

    Governance, no matter how benign, is subject to that assertion and I have not heard of any system that can’t be accused of such.

    I like the idea that much of a HoRep would be driven by local and national referenda.

    We vote at a GE for a general direction and policy pathway and then as the policies come forward the HoRep and us declare our support or otherwise, if it ain’t in the manifesto it’s an automatic referendum.

    More control though means greater cost, sad but inevitably true.

  182. 182
    Anonymous says:

    One million a year, no expenses and mandatory double the maximum sentence if they’re convicted of any crime.

    Oh, and no professional politicians – a proper employment history – no ex public sector workers, TU officials Lawyers or SPADs.

  183. 183
    Carry Hole is a filth columnist says:

    I think you’ll find that it’s the fat humunculus who’s on the payroll.

  184. 184
    Addanc Monster says:

    How about getting rid of most of the MP and replacing them with direct democracy.

  185. 185

    yeah I agree Farage is right but only of course if ::::

    we came out of the EU

    ergo we would have no euro MEPS and their bag carriers and expenses to pay .

    thus : what we saved on euro costs could fund increases to a serious salary level for UK MPS .

    and — these would get paid one fixed no rxpenses salary for RUNNING THE COUNTRY not rubber stamping edicts from the Lipsius Building Politburo !!

  186. 186

    it would be the minimum wage — if they re lucky !!!

  187. 187

    Man s a pillock .

    This is admittedly not a rant but he has no depthto any of his argument . There is no research just banal comments which he hopes will make us laugh (??) and orient us to his viewpoint added to which his “presentation” is peppered with references to sci fi films none of us have even seen or possibly want to even on a wet Sunday afternoon TV rerun.

    Sorry Russ 4 out if 10 and that s being generous . Must do better!!!

  188. 188
    Casual Observer 2 says:

    Cut the number of M.P.s to 300 and double their current pay. Save taxpayers money.

    Make the fuckers “clock on” in the H.o.C. Present attendance rates are appallingly low.

    Minimum quorum for any legisaltion to be passed to be 250

  189. 189


    it was ” most unfortunate ” that I made the ” unwarranted suggestion “.

    Translation : she lied.

  190. 190

    Are you Earl Spencer ?

  191. 191
    Pin the dossier on the dick says:

    The Lords is not, now, an hereditary Chamber. It was rather better when it was. Now it’s full of incompetents, crooks and cronies and,even all three together. It won’t be long before “The Lords Spiritual” get their first ex officio Imam. And the term “Prayers” will acquire a new take not to mention prayer mats. It might thin out a bit if they find all these “no longer available” dossiers. Presumably they’re in the same place as all those “sexed-up dossiers” that didn’t turn up either. It must be one helluva black hole they hide all these non-existent files in. “We delegate the selection of files for destruction to the office cleaner. We find that they unerringly clean up the ones that everyone is going to really want in about 10 years time. It is most odd that they cannot be identified, traced, nor can the files which, if you ever did find a cleaner, they could never recall it, anyway. So yah-boo, sucks!”.

  192. 192

    Pay by results. DfE wants to pay teachers that way.

  193. 193
    Mine's a Westinghouse says:

    Much easier to give them their very own electric chair with a big red button marked “Loot”. Absolutely instantaneous removal of the bar-stewards who voted this Country out of its independence.

  194. 194
    Mine's a Westinghouse says:

    And they weren’t remunerated, so no “pay-roll vote” not to mention a much smaller Cabinet. It still didn’t stop us ending up with The Mandarins’ Choice like Churchill, or Heath; both of them picked to cause this Country irretrievable loss.
    Churchill cost us our Empire and Heath sold out the Country itself.
    In comparison, Cameron is just another journeyman liar.

  195. 195
    NE Frontiersman says:

    But seeing the people we’re getting, they’re obviously driven by worse motives than financial gain.

  196. 196
    gildedtumbril says:

    Niggle farrago is just another R, Swipe. The House of Commies is full of them.

  197. 197
    It's just a jump to the left says:

    Too right. And any person who’s Parent’s have been in the Military should be banned from being in it too. You’d have thought that after one generation of being underpaid subservient fool’s they’d have learned already.

  198. 198
    Direct Democracy-that means cutting out your intermediate BS ALL of the time says:

    Too Right. There’s too many vested interests, Party allegiances, Directorships, Lobbying, etc for ANY modern Democracy to be really representative of the people’s wishes. FkUc Westminster and the FPTP wagon it rode in on.

  199. 199
    Me, myself and I says:

    Jeeze, all of the above posts cut right to the heart of the problem. Less MP’s. BTW, an English Parliament wouldn’t go amiss. Could you imagine the furore if a Westminster MP was to vote in the Welsh Assembly? Or the Scotish Parliament?….2-faced Barstewards who don’t like it when the shoe is on the other foot.

  200. 200
    Me, myself and I says:

    + ∞

  201. 201
    Me, myself and I says:

    Bleat, bleat, bleat. When are you cockney cocks going to realise that the World doesn’t care about what ‘you’ have to suffer? I do wish you’d vote to be a City State and just give the rest of England a bit of peace. Schmucks.

  202. 202
    You want REAL representation, I'll give you REAL representation says:

    Less Lawyers, Less Oxbridge buffoon’s, Less Homosexuals, More Muslims, More Engineer’s, More Green MP’s, Less Labour and Conservative MP’s, etc…In other words, more people from a Working Class Background, not these ‘Socialist Millionaires’ who apparently ‘Care’, or Millionaire Conservative’s who only got there through paying a ‘Contribution’ to the Party. In fact, let’s try FULL PR and let the UK Population decide. I’m sick of this Pantomime of ‘People’ who supposedly represent us. THEY DON’T.

  203. 203
    A member of the General Public says:

    STFU twat, get elected. Backroom Socialist Boy who revel’s in his millions whilst lecturing people to give a higher % of their money to ‘Charity’ than you’d ever do. Fucking hypocritical Socialist Scum.

  204. 204
    Hamas-Halal bacon butties all-round! says:

    We kill Three, you kill 1. Riot’s! You’re the bad people here! All we want to do is live in peace!

  205. 205
    Oh Dear, aren't we 'hard done by' says:

    A ‘Farm Owner’ – like they’re not going to be pro-EU and major CAP beneficiaries? “£100k is not that much in the grander scheme of things”? Are you high?. “They put in long hours, take all sorts of stick (much warranted but some less so) and have no security of tenure”, just like Zero Hours Contracts are? “Or the successful businessman who ‘retires’ from full time working and puts ‘something back’” – would that be the Tax he’s been let-off during his business tenure and decides that he’s now a philanthropist? Just like Bill Gates?…Get off your high horse sunshine and try living in the real world.

  206. 206
    Mystick Peg says:

    And obviously you know this how? Can you See The Future? Have you bet your entire wealth on this Prophecy? Did you ‘See’ UKIP coming first in the EU elections before your daily dose of BBC Bollocks? UKIP’ers are here to stay. You ‘Assume’ that we’re swing voters, well, Assume makes an Ass out of U and ME. Get used to it.

  207. 207
    Anonymous says:

    I like your train of thought; too many lawyers – we’ve laws up the gazoo

  208. 208
    Anonymous says:

    Minimum qualifications – cap on lawyers ?

  209. 209
    Anonymous says:

    except they’d call you on it

  210. 210
    Mystick Peg says:

    Again, I’ll take all bets on your house. Are you sure UKIP won’t win? Or are you just being a fking slackbladder and trying to prophetise without ANY forethought? I’ve got a small willy (as well as some Moob’s), do you?

  211. 211
    Anonymous says:

    Attracting people from admin, defence, health, finance/economics or education IS the problem. We need people from business, and qualified in economics instead of the social sciences. Even retired people from business- who know how to run companies efficiently and in profit.

  212. 212
    Necrophiliac Dating Agency-Just Where Do They Dig These People Up From? says:

    Spend more time on actual qualitative Factual ranting and not be so ‘copy my homework’ old boy. It helps. Also, are you telling me that Blair, with his HUGE experience in Worldwide Affairs, suddenly commanded a £Million+ salary out of nowhere? Did he sell State Secrets, and official Connections, for it? You tell me…

  213. 213
    Ockham's Razor says:

    Nowt wrong at’all. lad!

    But t’house of Reps workin’ nine while fav? Nay, lad!

    *Drops Barnsley accent*

    We don’t have regions here. Never have had, never will. We have had counties for centuries. Yorkshire, Lancashire, Kent, Sussex, Gloucester, Cheshire, Norfolk, Lincs to make a brief tour.

    Many of them have regimental names associated with them. Blood has been lost in their name. Rip that all up at your peril!

    You seem a reasonable guy so I would hate to see you at the end of a pitchfork. The English are slow to rise but when they do, the Rest Of The World is finished!

    Go and look up at the fan vaulting at Bath Abbey. They won’t mind you lying on the floor (as long as they are not holding a service at the time.) Look at the gaps between the fan edges along the middle line.

    Honi soit qui mal y pense! Oh yes, we do like garters too! :-:

    Vote UKIP :-D

  214. 214
    Anonymous says:

    “Farage Says Pay Politicians More”
    But based on a tick-box, appearing on subsequent ballot papers? Thus allowing the people to directly reward the diligent and penalise the wayward. We can call it: Democracy 2.0 Nige.

  215. 215
    Restless in Godalming says:

    Why on earth does anyone caree what that malodorous turd thinks…

  216. 216
    Mark says:

    I would agree to that, to stop mp- s making money in second jobs . And for them to stop Nannie state and get on with British policy around the world and do what politician should do create our path as we should be be doing , like the politicians did prior to 1960 . With EU

  217. 217
    Anonymous says:

    Isolation from reality issues :

    Headmasters are generally qualified teachers with enormous experience of teaching, and over reach minimum academic and teaching qualifications

    Hospital Consultants are also earning in the £100k area, they have spent long years training, “expect to get top grades in A levels, 3 or 4 years in medical school for a first degree in medicine and surgery. Then comes 2 years in hospital in foundation posts, gaining practical experience under very close supervision, more exams. Competition to gain a place as a specialty registrar, which lasts 6 years, ending with a certificate of completion of training”.

    What are the experience in the real world (in business) minimum training and academic requirements for becoming an MP that warrant a salary of £100k?
    Probably makes it easier to swop over from senior civil service and law, and maybe that’s a larger degree of the problem. (+ red tape= – impact on small business)

    Where are the standards of governance, including accountability and transparency? (Ancient Rome had a position elected by the legal profession themselves who was able to sue govt for dereliction of duty)

    Voting : more of a real democracy exists currently in Switzerland, where the public is able to vote on issues like taxation. However issues raised for voting are not always ‘well’ investigated, govt often has an ‘in house’ approach rather than gathering a variety of external ‘real world’ experts who may have differing and creative solutions to problems. Does governance itself have documented management processes?

    On the basis of ‘no taxation without representation’, a voting mechanism could be added to existing individual personal on-line IRS accounts, with internet help offered through the public library system.

  218. 218
    Anonymous says:

    Further thought on voting – maybe accessed from IRS account numbers with a printout of a single no tagged voting receipt that would act as a local voting ticket, ie a single vote audit on the electronic system . Anyway too much detail

  219. 219

    Can we have free M&S vouchers for lunch too, yummy!

  220. 220

    What a self absorbed opinionated scruff, time you spent a few quid on a haircut and have a shave, obviously feeling a bit left out of the limelight lately and needed some attention.

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