July 1st, 2014

SPEAKER WATCH: Reeves Ruling Contradicts Erskine May

The Speaker’s ruling on Rachel Reeves today was a friendly gesture to the Labour front bench.

Bercow said that while Government Ministers were under an obligation not to mislead the Commons, the Opposition wasn’t so constrained. It was up to them, individually to take responsibility for what they say in Parliament. It wasn’t, however, a matter of “order”.

It’s not what Erskine May says.

Under the heading “Members deliberately misleading the House” the good book says: “The Commons may treat the making of a deliberately misleading statement as a contempt.”

That sounds like a matter of order.

And had one of the Speaker’s betes noires in the last Parliament lied like a flat fish to the House, you can bet he would have descended on them like a collapsing house.


107 Comments

  1. 1
    John Bercow says:

    Sally told me to say that

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    • 5
      Morgan's Organ says:

      Order! Order! Bercow you stupid little twat!

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      • 17
        PC Dixon says:

        It really is disgraceful how two faced, hypocritical politicians lie and lie , especially from the left- Reeves was a bare faced lie or is she just that stupid in which case how do Labour consider her fit to govern the rest of us? – Bercow is well known as a cheat and left leaning, to the point of falling over. – Nothing gets any better does it?

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        • 19
          Toxic Labour for Spongers, Scroungers, Parasites, Criminals, Layabouts & other Wasters says:

          Maybe she is too stupid to realise she lied. There are many precedents on the Labour side?

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          • The two Muppets says:

            As i have said before ,Rachel Reeves is not the sharpest
            tool in the box .

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          • Anonymous says:

            Nah, she can’t be as stupid and non-sharp as she would have us believe — I wonder if it’s a well-rehearsed act aka toeing the Labour Party line. Except for being a lefty I can’t think why ‘stupids’ like Rachel Reeves are waved through at Oxford.

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          • 45govt says:

            Maybe Boring-Snoring sent herself to sleep and slipped into default mode.

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          • Dangerous Brian says:

            Truth is, they don’t know the difference and even if they did they wouldn’t care.
            How can you tell if a politician is lying?
            Its slimy gob is open.

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          • SLEDGE HAMMER SAYS

            Well i don t know about Reeves but I m certainly the bluntest tool in the box .

            But when I hit you …..you don t get up .

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          • Osama the Nazarene2 says:

            Mr Speaker is it in order for you to ignore Erskine May?

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      • 83
        anonymouse says:

        Just repeat the Point of Order until The Speaker gets it right.

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    • 12
      John the untouchable says:

      And there is nowt anyone can do about.

      What Little John says, goes.

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  2. 2
    Labour's Mask is Slipping says:

    A trifecta of Reeve’s lies, Bercow’s incompetence and Labour’s secret plans to go on a benefits spending spree again.

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  3. 3
    Racheal Reeves says:

    I should have told the house Zzzzzzzz instead of Zzzzzzz for that I am truly Zzzzzz

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  4. 4
    Henry the nth where n is a positive integer somewhere between I and VII says:

    Who will rid me of this turbulent weazel?

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    • 6
      Mitch says:

      Bercow is treating the house like his personal property, where he decides what is good or bad. He is deliberately ignoring centuries of tradition and precedent, which aren’t just old-fashioned irrelevances – those rules allow and actually enable the house to conduct its business with integrity and respect.

      The man is an absolute disgrace and should be thrown out asap, if not sooner.

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      • 70
        EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

        Does it take a lot to – actually think about – who behind the speaker is pulling his strings – such that he and his position / office are beyond contempt … Yet the powers that be – do nothing …

        Seems that parliament as a so called government / state structure in the 21st century is completely neutered – but moreover ‘controlled’ as a bl00dy circus of fools, naves, jesters and clowns – while this ‘image’ of it of being one of the finest parliaments in the world is forlornly promoted.

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    • 7
      Mustapha Passport says:

      Speak to me effendi

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    • 32
      The two Muppets says:

      Bercow and his fragrant wife have trashed the Office of Speaker of HOC.

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  5. 8
    France - A Breath of Fresh Air With Brains says:

    OK, so Dave can say on this occassion that the European Court of Human Rights could be a problem.

    Lets see if he has the balls:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28106900

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    • 9
      France - A Breath of Fresh Air With Brains says:

      Supposed to be “can’t say” obviously!

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    • 13
      France - A Breath of Fresh Air With Brains says:

      Indeed what could be more “British” than to free these women from their male domination and oppression.

      In fact, free them from the brain washing, as some actually believe they have to walk around in this nonsense.

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    • 23
      Where's the comments section on their page? says:

      The BBC don’t want to hear your views though.

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    • 50
      Witty Monker says:

      The old saying about a stopped clock?

      That.

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  6. 10
    Gawd Help Us says:

    I wonder if Dave, Ed and Nick would be brave enough?

    https://tinyurl.com/klyy4hz

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  7. 11
    Squeaker Bercow says:

    Erskine May?
    Bolleaux, I write the book….the Book of Bercow….and don’t you forget it sonny.

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  8. 14
    Jazz Impro says:

    Making it up as he goes along.

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  9. 15
    EH? Either they do or they don't says:

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    • 20
      UKIP is the only way to vote says:

      Tell that to the ordinary factory worker, where immigrants are literally running factories and keeping locals out, try checking out North West area, the local blogs are always moaning.

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      • 25
        UKIP are Tossers says:

        Yes, they’re trying to keep Scousers out of their factories. They have locks and bolts on the doors when the place is closed, and barbed wire on the outer walls. They have watchmen and guard dogs and burglar alarms and they send the police round to look for stolen property if one of the locals does still manage to break in.

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      • 36
        Anonymous says:

        They need to do more than moan.

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      • 37
        Ed Twelvety Balls says:

        Vote Ukip, get Labour.

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    • 33
      If a million chimps had a million calculators they could get EU funding to produce statistics says:

      According to Bruege, less immigration will mean a lowering of British GDP per capita of 3.3% by 2060.
      In reality, mass immigration has seen wage levels in London fall by 6.8% since 2007 according to the TUC.
      Which pro EU obsessives are telling the truth ?

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      • 46
        Dangerous Brian says:

        None of the lying c*nts.

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      • 100
        John Bellingham says:

        This is the problem. Governments look at GDP not GDP per head. They worry about loss of tax revenue rather than “right-sizing” the population. On current trends the population of Britain will be 80 million by 2050 of which only about 48% will be “indigenous”.

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  10. 16
    Betty B says:

    No doubt about it.
    Bercow demeans the role of Speaker.
    A mere pipsqueak, fawning of celebrity, without a sense of history of what his role should be.
    And the House are complicit in this, for they elected the upstart.

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  11. 21
    Sally Bercow says:

    As a fellow socialist, Bercow is obviously prepared to condone lying to the house whereas those dastardly Conservatives deserve the death penalty if they try it in his fiefdom.

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  12. 24
    John Simon Bercow (aged 13 and a bit) says:

    When I’m older, with greying hair
    I’d like ti be sitting in the Speaker’s Chair.
    I’d rule on this, I’d rule on that
    And with members I dislike, I’d have a spat.
    But most of all, in my Speaker’s role
    I’d show myself to be a petty asshole.

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  13. 26
    Anonymous says:

    “Government Ministers were under an obligation not to mislead the Commons, the Opposition wasn’t so constrained”

    So a gov’t minister needs to state in the house that RR lied to the house ?
    Can’t raise a point of order against the truth, presumably.

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    • 85
      EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

      Think about it … All of those MP’s in parliament who do … when it suits them; one god or religion or another – yet not one of them dares to do ‘The Truth’ or in truth The Public Interest.

      Surreal in this day and age.

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  14. 28

    Bercow is a little toad. He keeps a heavy bias and his wife loves getting shafted by darkies.

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  15. 30
    writeon says:

    He’s little more than a joke really. In fact he’s a little joke.

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  16. 34
    Tony Blair says:

    “Government Ministers were under an obligation not to mislead the Commons”

    Tee-hee! Weapons of mass destruction, anyone?

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    • 71
      EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

      Or even – gross ‘Abuse of Power / Office’, gross abuse of (d)a notic.es by the legal fraternity

      nay Gross abuse of the highest order ever. And still unpunished because they’re all caught out by their slippery tongues and misapplication of the laws of the land.

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  17. 39

    If she doesn’t correct the record, Speaker should place her under Big Ben tomorrow – assuming she shows up.

    Vote UKIP :-D

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  18. 47
    Gooey Blob says:

    People are already disillusioned enough with politicians without Bercow now saying that it is acceptable for an opposition MP to stand up in the House of Commons and deliberately lie. Presumably he must also think it fine to stand up in a courtroom and tell lies?

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  19. 48
    Jimmy says:

    Oh dear

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_mood

    Under spoonface’s exciting new citizenship policies you’re going to have to know this stuff I’m afraid.

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  20. 49
    Labour Fucktards says:

    Odious little creep.

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  21. 51
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    John Bercow read this…..you are a short arsed arrogant wanker…….have a great evening.

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  22. 54
    Err says:

    Madeleine: Search Dogs Return To Portugal

    Packing their buckets and bones right now. Factor 32 for their noses.

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    • 73
      EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

      like after all these years – they’re gonna find a fucking clue …

      Unless of course they plant one or two!!!

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  23. 55
    Rachel Reeves with the same strange voice as Ed Miliband says:

    Ed Balls taught me all I know about blatant lying.

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    • 61
      You can't get into the Labour Party unless you're a blatant liar says:

      WMDs.
      An NHS dentist for all.
      Education education education.
      Tough on crime. Tough on the causes of crime.
      British jobs for British workers.
      Our troops will leave Afghanistan without having to fire a shot.
      Reducing inequality.
      A whiter that than white government.
      The NHS is safe in our hands.
      A referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.
      Spending only to invest.
      Tax cuts take money out of the economy.
      No more than 16,000 East Europeans will move to Britain.

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    • 66
      McPoison says:

      Hypocrisy & mendacity – it’s in Labour’s D-N-A.

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  24. 57
    Cinna says:

    Now the ECHR have ruled that France’s ban on Moslem women wearing veils niqab in public does not breach their human rights, is there any chance that our wishy washy (can I say that) government will move to implement a ban in this country? Or are we going to bend over and let the PC brigade force us to put up with it?

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    • 101
      John Bellingham says:

      We are not in France that has a tradition of trampling on people’s religious beliefs. The Burkah, Hijab and bandit masks should just be banned in public buildings, courts, hospitals and clinics, places of entertainment, public transport, shops, offices, banks, parks, open spaces, closed spaces, cars, public thoroughfares, casinos and strip clubs–everywhere else its OK.

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  25. 58
    "Dishface" Cameron says:

    Former French president Nicolas Sarkozy has been arrested for having ‘inappropriate contact’ with a judge. Not another sex scandal?

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    • 75
      EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

      Do they maintain the falsity in France like they do here – that there is complete independence between the politicians and judiciary …

      And they’d have us in the UK actually believe that old chestnut!

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  27. 63
    Richard 'Coke Fiend' Bacon says:

    I’ve been kicked out of Radio 5 Labour.

    I await instructions from my handlers as to how I can continue to help the cause.

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  28. 64
    NERMAL says:

    So it is safe to say that Bercow has lied to the house.

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    • 76
      EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

      It is beyond time that MP’s in the house of commons – we ‘given’ protection for spinning and lies.

      The age old – the member has ‘told an untruth’ BALONEY – belongs back in the 18th Century if not further back.

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  29. 67
    Sally Bercow says:

    Haven’t had a pint of Castrol Magnatec since my early 20s. The things I did on that stuff.

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  30. 68
    A Right Fucking Bastard says:

    Some good news at last- coke-snorting Lefty cüntwaft Richard Bacon has got the bullet.

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  31. 77
    Jezza says:

    One way tickets only and take your ugly mosks with you

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  32. 78
    Cynic says:

    She couldnt tell a lie. She is a Christian

    Unless of course she is lying about that too!!

    All the same she is one of the fitter pieces of eye candy on Team Wallace

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  33. 84
    Labour Part Spokesmong says:

    It is official; everything we say in Parliament is lies.

    We are also the only party with a successful court case behind us allowing us to lie in our manifesto!

    Left/Lies/Socialism/bastards – all the words are interchangeable!

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    • 94
      EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

      have they all converted to j’ism – so they can lie and lie and lie?

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  34. 87
    EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

    Leon Brittain, Greville Janner, Ken Clark – can you guess what they are yet?

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    • 88
      EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

      let’s see now perhaps they drugged & buggered a young girl at a Clint home in the USsome 30+ yers ago and have gotten clean Scott [<clue there] away?

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  35. 89
    EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

    i wonder what the gaff prone Prince Phillip thinks about all this rolf Harris stuff?

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  36. 90
    The shortest speaker in history says:

    I am not really up to this job; morally, intellectually or physically.

    Sally says that I am not up to it either; unless I stand on an orange box or something. I walked into Sally while she was wearing a really short skirt and I got a crack on the head.

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  37. 92
    Anonymous says:

    How much did Guido donate to the Tories at last years Billingsgate banquet. Did do you buy your own ticket or where you and the wife there with your noses in the trough at someone else’s expense????

    Are you going tomorrow night. If so, who bought your ticket this time???? Conservative home????

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  38. 95
    EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

    BTW – i wish to thank ‘taxpayer’ [of moniker] for all of his/her intelligent and coherent civil discourse on here last night – it is insightful to read the full and subject matter laden ‘content’ of his/her addressing of subjects of public concern and controversy – rather than to have to deal with just plain old smear merchants.

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  40. 99
    The Anglo Saxon says:

    Bercow bias, who’d have thought it.

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  41. 106
    Anonymous says:

    “Government Ministers were under an obligation not to mislead the Commons”
    Notwithstanding the necessity, that to have any chance of achieving this they would have to truly know what they were talking about to begin with? But given that each individual there would offer a different evaluation, if pressed privately. Not really that likely.

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