June 24th, 2014

Cameron Says Judge Only Him For His “Friend” Coulson

In July 2011 David Cameron said:

“I decided to give him a second chance and no one has raised serious concerns about how he did his job for me … But the second chance didn’t work out. The decision to hire him was mine and mine alone and I take full responsibility for it. People will decide whether it is right to give someone a second chance or not. I do think it is right to judge an individual by the work he did for me. I accept he was an editor of a newspaper where some very bad things happened. Because he’d resigned … it was reasonable to offer him a second chance … People will judge me on that, and I fully understand that. When you work with someone for four years as I did and you work closely, you do build a friendship and I became friends with him … so, yes, he became a friend and is a friend.

Guido imagines they’re now preparing to drop Coulson from a very great height.

But Cameron cannot undo those words.

Although he tried at the Leveson Inquiry, a year later:

“I was reliant on his word but I was also reliant on the fact that the Press Complaints Commission had accepted his word, the select committee had accepted his word, the police had accepted his word, the Crown Prosecution Service had accepted his word.”

Guido imagines that will be the line today…


149 Comments

  1. 1
    Peter Grimes says:

    Can ANYONE REALLY believe that Coulson told Dave that he did do it, or rather that he didn’t?
    Would he lie for a job like that?

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    • 4
      I hate Cameron's socialist politics but.... says:

      Cameron standing by a friend only does Cameron credit.

      That Cameron’s friend let him down only does his friend discredit.

      Liked by 2 people

      • 8
        Yasmine & Diane (the new Hale & Pace but definitely not white because white people are racist) says:

        But he’s not brown.

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      • 15

        That’s cute. No really.

        Anyone else want to have a go at spinning this?

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        • 65
          Jimmy didn't know about Brown, honest he didn't says:

          Jimmy, why didn’t your lot tell the electorate in 2005 the Gordon Brown was a mentalist intent on bankrupting the country. A more serious issue than phone hacking, was it not?

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        • 75
          Spin on this Jimmy says:

          Of course, Labour supporting papers didn’t do any phone hacking at all.

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          • jgm2 says:

            But the NoTW was supporting Labour while it was doing all this hacking. So quite obviously Labour supporting papers were phone-hacking. Indeed it was Labour who had their tame Met run a quick ‘Hutton style enquiry’ to enable NoTW to continue business as usual.

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          • Spin on this Jimmy says:

            Such niceties are lost on the voting masses jgm2. About time we saw some movement on the Mirror Group and Piers Morgan, just in the interest of the credibility of our justice system you understand.

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        • 76

          How about: I’m a pretty decent sort of guy?

          That sounds good, doesn’t it?

          With that safely in your pocket you can even go off and start a war or two.

          He should give it a try…

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    • 14
      Mitch says:

      I think the point is poor judgement from Cameron, and a certain amount of guilt by association, which isn’t SO unreasonable.

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      • 26
        Chris Huhne knew my Father says:

        Guilt by association? FFS since when was knowing a criminal a crime?

        By your logic every MP and Lord would have to be banged up……on second thoughts perhaps you have a point.

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        • 30
          Mitch says:

          I said “a certain amount”. He was the editor of the NoTW, and these allegations had been around for a while.

          Cameron was asking for trouble.

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          • jgm2 says:

            The allegations had been around for some time but were, for some reason, no evidence at all could be found by the police all the time Murdoch and NoTW were supporting the war monger Blair and the economic clusterfuck that is the Maximum Imbecile.

            It was only when Murdoch cut the Maximum Imbecile loose did Labour suddenly remember that actually there just might have been something to the rumours after all and perhaps the Met might want to take another look.

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          • Mitch says:

            Yes, I agree. But Cameron shouldn’t have taken the risk in the first place.

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          • jgm2 says:

            Perhaps not but I guess faced with vicious liars like McBride, Watson and Campbell he thought he needed to fight fire with fire. Plus, with Labour having ‘investigated’ and given Coulson/NoTW a clean bill of health I s’pose he didn’t expect them to effectively admit that they’d covered up for Coulson/NoTW as a reward for supporting Labour.

            Which is essentially what they (Labour) has now done.

            Ie as long as you turned a blind eye to Labour’s war mongering, criminality and economic incompetence then you could say and do what the fuck you liked. It’s not Murdoch we should be afraid of. it’s Labour. Look what the c*unts will do to you if you don’t play ball. Fre*d Goodwin got the same treatment.

            Wicked and malicious c*unts.

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          • Tim Yeo-Yo says:

            Why don’t you ask Dr Da’vid K’elly just what Hunts the Labour Party can be Jimmy?

            What’s that? You can’t because he’s dead? How did that happen then? Nothing to do with the nice Labour Party obviously.

            Your fuckwittery is limitless!

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          • young werther says:

            Labour are full of vicious little twunts hungry for power over us, our money, and our freedom as individuals.

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          • The Growler says:

            Following the conversation, no one has mentioned the Gideon factor in this affair, persuading Big Dave to take Coulson on

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        • 142
          Bye Andy, I'll write often..... says:

          One is judged by the company one keeps. One PM saved “loose women” and now another befriends “a faller” who goes down on him again. It was “right” to give him a second chance? Fuck off, Dave. You picked him, toughed it out and your man is going down. At least it wasn’t little boys, but you played Leveson and ramped up a fairly minor matter into a capital offence. Now you count amongst your playmates another time-server – Huhne did and Laws ought to have done. A really bad choice. Devil-sup-long spoon. And all your own work? Ballocks.

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      • 29
        constituency trainbound says:

        coulson was good at his job … the fact that the dark arts were part of his journalistic background is no suprise … how many editors must still be hoping their own antics don’t come to light.

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        • 69
          Diane Abbotopotamus says:

          Dark arts? Watch it whitey, that’s waaaycist!

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        • 88
          inside out says:

          Are you watching Piers Morgan your next.You have not got a hope, because everybody in the UK recognises you as a complete scumbag,porridge awaits.

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    • 35
      Head of BBC News says:

      How do we spin this? Phone Hugh Grant, Alan Partridge and Brian Leveson and ask.

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    • 93
      Two Trial Lawyers says:

      Lunch atbthe Dorchester, then?

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      • 137
        Ticket collector says:

        Sorry you can’t go there. It belongs to the Sultan of Brunei and all the celebs in the US of A have declared a boycott of all his hotels worldwide. There’s a nice little cafe by Serpentine though that does a mean cheese butty.

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  3. 3
    It was a Labour scandal says:

    Coulson didn ‘t work for Cameron when this took place. A Labour told CPS at the time, not widen investigation.

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    • 5
      Yasmine & Diane (the new Hale & Pace but definitely not white because white people are racist) says:

      LIES

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      • 91
        Where's Owen? says:

        I very much like your moniker, poster.
        Could it not be prefaced with a warning that the mentioning of either name may bring about thoughts unbecoming to to even moderate people?

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  4. 6
    Koba says:

    It only shows Cameron’s poor judgement of people, Wrong on Coulsden, wrong on the handling of the president un-elect of the EU.

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    • 13
      Peter Grimes says:

      Boy Dave deserves credit for exposing the duplicity of the EU ‘leaders’.

      I hope he uses the JunketJunky case as further evidence that you can’t trust any of these self-serving bastards. They only want our money anyway.

      Fuck them all!!

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    • 18
      Junk Junckers says:

      Nowt wrong with Dave’s handling or distancing of the Crooked EU president in waiting

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  5. 9
    Armchair Barrister says:

    So jury, explain to me this. Charlie Brooks hid the laptop in the underground car park for what reason?

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    • 10
      Tron says:

      PORN

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    • 33
      Anonymous says:

      It was his lesbian porn collection. Also, even if the jury thought he was trying to protect his missus by concealing her alleged crimes somehow, the jury have decided that there is insufficient evidence that she committed any such crime. It follows that since there was no crime to cover up, there was no course of justice to pervert, so he can’t be guilty whatever his motive…

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    • 42
      Pollockston Lawyer says:

      The jury has to explain nothing.

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    • 113
      Keitho says:

      As he said, it was his porn and he felt it would embarrass his wife if it were made public knowledge.

      The court agreed that neither the porn or his personal laptop contained anything relating to her charges. The charge against him should never have been laid and actually smacks of vindictiveness on the part of the CPS.

      Still, good to see the legal system still works as it should in the UK.

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      • 117
        Next week on Gogglebox says:

        Well just as well he took that course of action otherwise everyone in the country would be talking about his porn collection.

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      • 143
        Jack Dromey and Mr Jacquie Smith says:

        Every man should be allowed to keep his Porn stash secret from his wife. It’s his human rights.

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  6. 11
    Owen Jones says:

    Latest Old Bailey News: “British Justice, the best justice money can buy”.

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  7. 12
    Tron says:

    Brooks must be able to sue someone after the way the press treated her.

    Liked by 1 person

    • 19
      Rebeka Brooks says:

      I’m ready to clock somebody, tbh..

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    • 36
      constituency trainbound says:

      she knows better and must be pleased this is all over

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    • 43
      Anonymous says:

      The jury hasn’t found her to be a candidate for sainthood here, they’ve just found her not guilty of any crimes. NI should re-employ her, I reckon she & they deserve each other & I can’t see that anybody else does.

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      • 134
        The Growler says:

        If News Corp re-employs her watch the sales drop. No one has mentioned if she has personal info on Gideon and Dave Boy, maybe that is what was on that laptop, no one keeps a little black book nowadays, you know the sort thing I mean, ” I have a little book, if I go down, I have certain information to hand”, that could be the porn on the computer.

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        • 138
          Ticket collector says:

          Watch sales drop? Not if they relaunch the NotW in a few weeks – then watch sales soar as Rupee goes to town on all these lizards.

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        • 144
          Peter Grimes says:

          You really should consult a professional shrink about your little conspiracy/blackmail theories, Growler. You seem to have severe psychiatric problems. either that or you are, like most NooLabor fantasists, pissing into the wind and hoping it doesn’t blow back at you!

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    • 141
      inside out says:

      Brooks and Coulson will have acquired during their tenure of the NoW lots and lots of very embarrassing information about high profile Establishment figures.Remember revenge is a dish best served cold.

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  8. 16
    SS says:

    He maybe found guilty, he may also appeal as he still believes he is not guilty.

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    • 63
      Peter Grimes says:

      And given that the evidence on which he has been convicted has come from those who admitted phone hacking he may well win an appeal.

      Inshallah!

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    • 135
      The Growler says:

      He most certainly will appeal his sentence, appeal and appeal again.

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  9. 17
    Dirty Digger says:

    Right ho lefties.
    That’s that over with.

    Now its revenge time..Open the Miliband-Burnham-Toynbee-Rusbridger-Monbiot-Abbott-Grant-Coogan files.

    LETS THROW SOME SHIT.

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  10. 20
    Albert's chainsaw sharpeners says:

    I don’t think I really care what happens to these people, if the win or lose, I don’t buy newspapers.

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    • 24
      Bill Quango MP says:

      Funnily enough I read one this morning. First time in maybe 10 years? Someone had left it on a bench. It was the Sun.

      Quite entertaining. I look forward to reading a printed paper again in another 10 years.

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      • 58
        I apologise to the British Public for.....everything now, in the past and in the future says:

        I hope that you didn’t have your picture taken holding it in front of you and post it on twitter??? Could be end of a promising Parliamentary career as to be seen within 100yds of “The Sun” is clearly a resigning matter in some circles. Personally I don’t read it not because of its allegations re Hillsborough but because it’s a load of lightweight crap(no pun intended). My old dad had the right idea …….Rip it into squares for use in the bog. He always contended that both “The Sun” and “Mirror” had better absorption properties than “The Manchester Guardian” or the “Daily Sketch”although perhaps the bastards got him in the end as he died of Cancer of the Rectum

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        • 82
          Bill Quango MP says:

          Bugger! Hadn’t thought of that.

          I shall tweet an explanation for reading The Sun newspaper . Claim I only glanced at the headlines as I handed it to a homeless person.

          And I shall also issue a full and frank apology begging forgiveness.
          Hopefully a parliamentary colleague will go air saying “Quango was right to read the Sun newspaper…and he was right to apologise for reading it.”

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  11. 21
    Nick Robinson star reporter says:

    Incredible news..Its quite unbelievable .. but the BBC has learned that Spain have failed to qualify for the last 16.

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    • 139
      Croc poacher and qat dealer says:

      What about England, Nick? News travels slowly in this part of the Amazon.

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  12. 23
    Revelling in the joys of buttock sex says:

    Did anyone ever get to the bottom of Andy Coulson’s security clearance? Or the vetting process to hire him? Messy stuff coming…

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  14. 32
    Squeaker Bercow says:

    Hansel found guilty of home invasion and elderly woman’s murder. Gretel cleared of all charges.

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  15. 37
    The Vicar of Albion says:

    Looking forward to the revenge in the run up to the GE :)

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  16. 40
    Mr Jay says:

    So Basically the Leveson Inquisition was a waste of public time and money.

    Hacked off will be Hacked off.

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  17. 41
    Spoonfaced mong had 1 chance to fix Labour's mess, and he blew it. says:

    “People will decide whether it is right to give someone a second chance or not.”

    Somehow I don’t think we’ll be giving the spoonfaced mong a 2nd chance.

    Debt: doubled.
    Deficit: rising.
    Immigration: Up – half a million last year, and spoonfaced mong tries to hide behind “net” immigration.
    Highly contentious foreign aid: up 28% last year.
    EU contributions: Up, to a record level. By way of thanks, the EU shits on us.

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    • 48
      yawn.... says:

      ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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    • 62
      Ed Moribund says:

      Now while we might agree Dave is a 5/10 sort of PM, you must admit clearing Labour’s clusterfuck of the economy would take more than one term.

      Last time it took almost 4 years. And that was with all the North Sea oil money helping out.

      This time the Labour government had managed record debts. record spending. record numbers of public sector workers. Record numbers of people on benefits and a debt that was greater than all the previous debts, including world wars, added together.
      And there was a recession worse than the great crash of ’29 on . And that one took ten years to fix.
      And a Eurozone collapse.

      Even the best minds would be lucky to turn that shambles around in 48 months.

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  18. 45
    ED MILIMONG says:

    GOOD LUCK ENGLAND TONIGHT!!

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  19. 47
    The BBC is outraged...some of 'em got off !!!! says:

    Tonight we shall be having a ” Newsnight Special”…..and phone in so phone in your view as to whether David Cameron should resign as PM

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  20. 50
    Cameron attracts Lies like flies says:

    Angela Merkel Lied to Dave….Twice.

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  21. 51
    BBC News 24 says:

    CAMERON GUILTY OF SOMETHING, WE’LL GET BACK TO YOU TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT. IT’S THE HEADLINE, THAT’S ALL WE ARE BOTHERED ABOUT.

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    • 54
      Cato Street Conspirator says:

      That’s funny. My copy says:

      ‘Andy Coulson guilty of phone hacking
      The PM’s ex-spin doctor Andy Coulson is found guilty of conspiring to hack phones, while former News International boss Rebekah Brooks is cleared at the Old Bailey’

      Have you got a private supply?

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    • 133
      BBC News Lather says:

      He’s guilty of poor judgement. He’s guilty of lack of positive vetting. He’s guilty of giving someone a second chance.

      Now as an organisation which does not require job applicants to disclose criminal convictions – save in the case where the applicant may be working with children or vulnerable adults – you might think we’re being slightly hypocritical here. But you are missing one important point – Cameron is a Tory.

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  22. 52
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    Cameron is incredibly naive. He thinks he can play with the rough boys and not get a few bruises.

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  23. 53
    Piers in Tears says:

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  24. 59
    We the People says:

    Cameron – 3 years ago you promised to give a full apology over the hiring of con coulson. Now he is guilty!

    We’re waiting!

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  25. 61
    Non taxable pikey says:

    The Hashemite Kingdom did a little tidy up just inside its borders yesterday which nobody seems to want to talk about. Four APCs met their air force, JAF 4, APCs 0.

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  26. 67
    Mornington Crescent says:

    What’s the betting Militwerp will drag up Mill1e D0wler at PMQs?

    He’s danced on her gr@ve so many times he should be able to do a whole fucking ballet by now.

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  27. 70
    Vote UKIP says:

    You’ve got to hand it to Cameron it takes a special type of incompetent twat to allow an issue which occured under Labours watch to leave him absolutely covered in the shit from the fan. Unbelievable.

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    • 84
      jgm2 says:

      Yeah.

      Quite a gift that.

      And not enough time to investigate why the original Met investigation, while NoTW was supporting Labour, could find no evidence of hacking.

      Funny that.

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  28. 71
    swarthy immigrant says:

    we have similar problems in swarthy land
    at least our politicians dont bother with asking four votes

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    • 74
      Tower Hamlets says:

      *innocent face*

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      • 79
        Yasmine & Diane (the new Hale & Pace but definitely not white because white people are racist) says:

        We already told you you can’t say ham it’s waaaycist because the Ms and the Js don’t like it!!!!!

        Yours sincerely,

        Y & D

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  29. 72
    Storm in a tea cup anyway says:

    It’s all overblown though.

    The judge said Dowler’s messages were not deleted by a hacker.

    The hacking they refer to is only listening to recorded voice messages using the manufactures’ default pins.

    Hardly the crimes of the century.

    The whole thing has been Hi-jacked by luvvies who don’t like the press saying inconvenient things about them and of course politicians

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    • 97
      anon says:

      Give us your address and I’ll try my skeleton key on your front door until I get in, then have a good poke around your sock drawer – same thing inint.

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      • 103
        Storm in a tea cup anyway says:

        No it is not. It’s the same as postie dropping my mail on the path and you reading it.

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        • 109
          anon says:

          Rubbish, the postie dropped your mail in a public place , the answer phone is not for the public but for the owner of the number.

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          • Your PIN is 0000 says:

            Crap. In those days answerphones could be listened to by anyone, everyone knew it and everyone was doing it. No one left anything sensitive on an answerphone except the Stupid. It was akin to postie dropping an open letter outside your gate on the pavement.

            15 years later and history is being re-written by today’s hysterical and nervous society.

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          • guidlford pharmacist watch says:

            Had an idea that tat would make a brief reappearance for the Coulson verdict, especially if it was guilty.

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          • anon says:

            @ your pin is 0:

            Utter drivel, answerphone is clearly private wether it’s got the default pin or not.
            Only a complete monkey would sit there trying out pins until they get in, a monkey with no respect for other people or their privacy.
            If you think that sort of thing is normal, acceptable behaviour then you’re as much a fuckwit as cousin.

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          • anonymong says:

            fuck off tat

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      • 104
        Anonymous says:

        Hardly a massive crime though. Unless you are a celeb.

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  30. 73
    Boy Wonder says:

    http://www.hackingtrial.com

    All that could not be reported.

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  31. 78
    A Jury says:

    We dislike slebs more than hacks, but we hate pols more than either.

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  32. 81
    Roma Bert. says:

    For Becca it’s ” Oh Sunni Day, when Jesus comes…..”

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  33. 83
    Hindsight my arse says:

    John Whittingdale MP on being asked to comment on Camerons judgement by hiring Coulson said its easy to be wise with hindsight. Listen mate, its got fuck all to do with hindsight as any fool knew at the time he was warned hiring Coulson could explode in his face. Many posters on here made that very point AT THE FUCKING TIME !

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    • 90
      Bill Quango MP says:

      But in fairness, since Coulson went, the coalition has not handled the media well.

      Dave never found another Luca Brasi.

      Unlike Blair. he had a whole ‘family’ of top hit men. McBride. Campbell. Mandelson.
      And that other one. The one who GF crosshaired. The one who has disappeared from history. – Derek somebody…???

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      • 101
        jgm2 says:

        He (Blair) had Murdoch and NoTW too. Which was why he had a word with the MET to do a ‘Hutton style enquiry’ on News International when questions were raised the first time.

        This is simply Labour getting their revenge for Murdoch jumping ship when the Maximum Imbecile staged his coup.

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        • 114
          malicious narcissist watch says:

          One of the only times Gordon Brown bothered to turn up at Parliament was to make an anti Murdoch speech regarding the takeover of bskyb. What a malicious, horrible little man. Thoughts of revenge seems to be the only emotion that motivates the little scrote these days, and maybe t’was ever so.

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    • 96
      cowpat says:

      I knew it was a major mistake to hire Coulson
      and I’m as thick as shit.

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  34. 86
    Alan Rubbisher says:

    It’s just as I predicted.

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  35. 87
    Ian Hissystrop says:

    Cancel front page – pull the bewitched cover..Go with Coulson instead.

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  36. 102
    Bosun Higgs says:

    Could this mean the re-launch of the Screws? The Sun on Sunday, well, it’s all right in its way, but it’s like a Tesco cream caramel pot compared with the sturdy British suet pudding that was the News of the World.

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  37. 108
    Sarah Brown says:

    I did enjoy those Pyjama parties Gordon and I threw at Chequers though, with Elizabeth, Rebekah and all. Oh how we gossiped

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  38. 115

    Giving people a second chance is one of Dave’s many virtues as David Laws can attest. It won’t be long before Chris Huhne, Jim Devine et al. are back on the gravy train.

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  39. 121
    Harriet Harperson says:

    David Cameron was correct to employ Andy Coulson and was correct to apologise for having done so.

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  40. 122

    Who does not have the odd dodgy acquaintance hiding in the background somewhere for the press to dig up?

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  41. 128
    BULLINGDON BUFFOON says:

    I think we can safely say that Andy Coulson definitely didn’t sleep with David Cameron or Boris Johnson, as the former council estate lad is found guilty of phone hacking and will go to jail.
    Rebekah Brookes has been found not guilty on all charges ; I wonder why she is found not guilty and Coulson guilty? What could possibly have happened in the past for there to be such a marked difference in the two verdicts?

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  42. 129

    Know a few geezers who’ve been inside. Didn’t hurt me,so why should Dave go in a twizzy?

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  43. 145
    Anonymous says:

    From another site : “If only Coulson had let Cameron ride his horse, today would be a different story!”

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  44. 146
    Joshua Goodluck N'dookataQu'engo says:

    This Diane Abbott…she’s attractive enough for a slim girl, I suppose, but she could do with fattening up. I really prefer the fuller figure myself.

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  45. 147
    Billyboy the Jock says:

    Andy Pandy the “‘Fall Guy” for all of the Hacks. Justice for all???

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  46. 148
    Wrong number says:

    Likely, Andy will soon be proprietor,editor and chief reporter of The News of the Screws

    Like


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