June 16th, 2014

Labour Blocked Release of Miners’ Strike Info in Power

Another day and another call for an inquiry from Labour. As reported in this morning’s Guardian:

“Ed Miliband has called for a “proper investigation” into alleged police malpractice during and after the most notorious confrontation of the 1984-85 miners’ strike, at the Orgreave coking plant 30 years ago this week.” 

The Labour leader goes on to call the issue “a matter of truth and a matter of justice.” This latest intervention comes on the back of Shadow Cabinet Office Minister Michael Dugher’s call for Whitehall to release information about the miners’ strike in Labour’s base-shoring up ‘Justice for the Coalfields’ campaign. Which is a change of tune from when Labour were in government…

New FoI requests seen by Guido have revealed that between 2007-2010, when Miliband was in government and Dugher was a SpAd,  Labour refused three such requests to release information about the 1984-5 miners’ strike. No need to let inconvenient facts like that get in the way of the 35% strategy though…



  1. 1
    Guido proverb says:

    Get dirty in work time, wash in work time

  2. 2
    Sunny Jim says:


  3. 3
    Tony Blair says:


  4. 4
    Son of Leon says:

    Arrest Leon Brittan .

  5. 5
    Miliband says:

    I tan, like the blonde bimbos of North London, weekly.

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    Loupy Lou LLB (Hons) says:

    Just hand all the papers over to some of those no win no fee lawyers if you can find one.

    This story perhaps explains why Dave and his mates are trying to muzzle the wig and gown brigade.

    First of all they stop Whiplash claims and now they want to stop Judicial reviews and malpractice suits.

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    jgm2 says:

    With the passage of time you almost feel sorry for the miners until you remember that the c*unts really did want the rest of us to pay all one million of them to do next to fuck all work in perpetuity and be well paid for (not) doing it.

    And this one million jobs to be hereditary in perpetuity.

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    ex-Miner rights says:

    We want the right to send down the pit our sons and their sons.

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    Feminist living near the pits. says:

    We will never work in the pits. Never have done, never will do

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    Gooey Blob says:

    Scargill’s flying pickets were thugs. They came down the M1 four to a car, armed with golf clubs, cricket bats etc in order to “persuade” the Notts lads to join their strike. The police did a fine job stopping many of their cars and sending them back.

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    Johnson & Johnson says:
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    Diddley says:


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    Ex-miner's demands (cont)... says:

    Aye. And the right for us them to freeze to death the entire country on an annual basis unless we get a pay-rise based on nothing more than – wee, we fancy more money. And the right for the rest of you to pay 98% to keep us in our council houses and Ford Cosworths.

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    Shooty* says:

    Like Tube Drivers, yeah?

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    Ex-miner's demands (cont)... says:

    You can’t beat a kerbstone through a taxi-dr*i*ver’s window to show people you mean business.

    It’s not murder. How were we supposed to know what would happen?

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    Kings of Leon says:

    No…he’s one of ours.

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    Diddley says:

    She doesn’t look like a Minor!

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    Medical Doctor says:

    The vast majority of men of working age are too big to work in the pits. You need men, less than 11 stone, under 5′ 6″, to operate the machinery in the shallow coal seams that exist in the UK. Decendants of miners are too fat and probably taking an illict drug to be allowed down the pit.

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    The Falluja Ministry of Equality & Diversity (Beheadings Division) says:

    That work ethic lives on.. in the Dom Cummings interview in today’s Times, if you’ve not seen it, he said he’s attended many meetings with teachers’ unions but never did the unions want to discuss education. All they wanted to talk about was “getting more money for doing less work.” With retirement at about 55, I suppose.

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    jgm2 says:

    Is that a hereditary job too?

  21. 21
    jgm2 says:

    Boobs aside, that’s a very masculine face.

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    The Falluja Ministry of Equality & Diversity (Beheadings Division) says:

    That and Ed Miliband shut coal-fired power stations (and is committed to shutting all the remaining ones), so we don’t need coal any more anyway. Apparently.

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    A man from Sky news says:

    If Dave was a man of the people (as he likes to claim he is) with real guts he would do as you ask without a moment’s hesitation to put the whole story to bed.

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    Anonymous says:

    North London spiv tells white working class to vote for him and his fellow spivs that infest Northern constituencies with their hatred of all things English, especially the working class and not to vote for Evil Racist Nige (who quite likes the English).

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    The Falluja Ministry of Equality & Diversity (Beheadings Division) says:

    The unions are certainly pushing for it to be heriditary, in a way.

    Automated underground train MK-I.
    Automated underground train MK-II.
    Automated underground train MK-III.
    Automated underground train MK-IV.

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    MB. says:

    Inquiry into the Tolpuddle Martyrs next?

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    Ted Miliband says:

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    Ted Miliband says:

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    Bit more blamestorming, innit?

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    MPs are a hereditary job as well.

    Benn on its fourth generation with Emily being selected as Worthing candidate even before she became entitled to vote, back in 2010.

    It seems that the ungrateful Worthing electorate decided they did not need her decades of personal experience. What Philistine ingrates!

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    Fishy says:

    Looks like Miliband has nicked the Hillsborough Justice Campaign tactics and is using it as a template for his next bandwagon.

    He’s a bit of a cleptocrat is Weird Ed;

    ‘One Nation Labour’ (Stolen from the Tories)
    Miliband’s Leadership (Stolen from his brother)
    Miliband’s green energy taxes (Stolen from the consumer)
    Recent concern about immigration (Stolen from UKIP)
    First Jewish Prime Minister – he hopes (Stolen from Disraeli)
    Miliband’s Film Star Looks (Stolen from Gromit)

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    The British media are cunts says:

    But perfect for women, especially socialists feminist ones that are always telling us how much better women are at everything than men. Good chance for them to show it.

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    EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

    And of course the spad Dugher – came from being Ken Jackson’s ‘mouthpiece’ at the AEEU. He disappeared off to be a bully boy when bullying civil servants to do Labours dirty deeds and then he was promoted to being Hoon’s 2nd Special adviser – when Hoon was guiding the MOD Ship during the !raq / dead man in the woods debacles.

    And then his Marxist mates got him elected.

    What nasty secrets have the governments of the day [under Blair] and to the present and many an msm journo and a legion of legals been hiding from the British Public?

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    Miliband for PM says:

    It would be funny if it wasn’t scary.

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    Neil Kinnock sent from Glynis's iPad says:

    13 people have died in fires in beds in sheds in London this year.

    What if anything has Bojo done about it ?

    How many people have been prosecuted ?

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    Fishy says:

    A bit like the NHS Unions. To Labour and their activists, the cult of the NHS is more important than the people it is supposed to serve.

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    A1 says:

    How about first dealing with Britain being pushed into war on the basis of lies against the will of the population, and prosecuting war criminal scum like Bliar AND HIS CRONIES?!!!

  39. 39
    The state education system in Birmingham says:

    British women are whores.

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    Fred the pensioner says:

    This is a very simple one for the FOI office to deal with – a one liner referring to their reply of {whenever it was when the Liebore govt refused to release the info}.


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    Tony Eden from Eton says:

    I think you will find that the people who lost their lives in these fires were mostly Poles and asylum seekers and tramps.

    Old Etonian Bullingdon boys do not break out in a sweat about such things.

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    monster raving loony party says:

    Tell the pen pushers to stop flapping about and put all the documents on the internet for us all to see.

  43. 43
    Rhody Dendron says:

    Give him time – he has ordered up those old Kraut water cannons. They’ll be on the road as soon as they pass their MOT.

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    The Ashcroft Focus Group drew attention to the stereotypical, fat, ignorant, slob of a Labour voter, drinking out of a tin of beer, watching TV and farting into his vinyl sofa.

    Even when they drink Macon, as in Islington, many of those characteristics are buried in their sub-conscious too, not to mention their sofas…

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    Mycroft says:

    So we replaced that million with a million plus pen-pushers that don’t contribute to the Balance of Payments at all.

    As it happens even if ‘we’ went for gas we could have sold the coal as it was for a long time a growing asset.

    Orgreave was the start of the overbearing nature of the state that intrudes upon us all every day of our lives.

    It also was the beginning of the end of respect for the Police, there is a thin blue line that stretches from Orgreave to Hillsborough to Ian Tomlinson.

    Miliband is an idiot of the first water and he should be looking at his parties own continuation of what started back then and addressing that rather than trying to go back that far in time.

    ID card anyone?

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    That word does not exist in the socialist lexicon. Nor the concept behind it.

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    They also wait who do not stand and serve…

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    low resolution fox says:

    Perhaps we need some lawyers to dress up in fancy wigs, charge us £1000ph for 6 months, then tell us how they would have handled the incident in hindsight, with an unlimited budget and without getting their hands dirty with ‘manual’ work.

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    Miliband’s bacon sandwich eating skills (Stolen from Wilfrid Brambell)

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    Labour voting dug shite says:

    35% is getting less and less likely.

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    Red Ed Milibandwaggon says:

    Hypocrisy is what we are past masters at. In fact it is the only thing we do well.
    Oh hold on bigotry is also high in our agenda. We are also good at lying but do not have the medal yet.

  53. 53
    Brambell's Ghost. says:

    Heh – I knew how to eat bacon butties.

  54. 54
    Jimmy Savile - BBC Host says:

    Support the minors

  55. 55
    The two Muppets says:

    Hypocrites are us .

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    jgm2 says:

    So we replaced that million with a million plus pen-pushers that don’t contribute to the Balance of Payments at all.

    ‘We; didn’t. Brown did. Overnight in 2001/2. One million pen-pushers in plush corner offices. The graduate class of 2001 didn’t know their luck. Practically every one of them handed a public sector pay and pension job for life.

    And all paid for with 30bn a year in borrowed money even during the ‘boom’ years. All that 30bn of unnecessary borrowing being ‘invested’ in the only place people could think to spend their money. Houses.

    Gosh. I wonder what could possibly go wrong and what that would do to house prices.

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    Anonymous says:

    ‘course you can have it, sweetie pie. It’ll come out some time after the Chilcott Inquiry
    What’s the point of coalminers if the gubmint will tax coal powered industry out of existence in the name of Global Warming? Are socialists born thick?

  58. 58
    East India Company Wallah says:

    There are also some fat.idle,smelly fuckers farting into their vinyl sofas who vote labour who abstain from stella as they are imported adherents of the religon of pe ace

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    Sailor Sam. says:

    If you think they don’t drink you would be so wrong.

    At uni’ at a weekend there would always one of them taking it too far with the drink.

    By Tuesday / Wednesday morning they would have slept it off ready to slag off the Evil West in tutorials and lecture questions.

    Despite the West being evil didn’t stop them shagging Western women either.

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    Mycroft says:

    No, that is not the real story.

    The proliferation of quangos stems from right after the Miners strike.

    The greatest increase came under the Tories as they were looking to defer responsibility.

    It was fed by the privatisation money, phone air space etc etc.

    Blair did it again.

    Even in the recession of 1990/91 the Gov was making jobs for the useless third.

    The point is that the destruction of the Mines was vandalism, it could have been a proper re-structuring, self-funding and good for the Country but it was really about the elites need to get revenge.

    The mess we are in right now stems from that debacle, the state thinks it can ride roughshod over peoples desires.

    It started there, right there on the streets of Orgreave and still nearly 30 years later people are ignoring the patently obvious.

    The problem now is managing the media, sites like this are the 21st C. version of the unions of old… not a ‘Union’ as such, but a unifying process of ideas and thoughts.

    That is why they are variously bought off, infiltrated by sock-puppets or simply turned into mess of confusion.

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    Sailor Sam. says:

    Round here they were first to buy their council houses. They moved on to better houses with their redundancy pay. And now then rent out their old houses to Poles and other Eastern Europeans. Won’t find any renting to Pakistani or Bangladeshi families; they are true socialists they can’t be racist can they?

  62. 62
    Sailor Sam. says:

    You get moderated even if you say something neutral to nice about A S I A N S.

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    franknowzad says:

    Ed MILLIONAIREBAND is living proof of Kinnock’s Law of Income Redistribution.
    “The poorer and more hopeless the constituency the wealthier their Labour MP”

    Even the dodgy postal votes are starting to leave Labour.

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    Sailor Sam. says:

    But you will campaign until at least mid-afternoon for the daughters of others’ to go down the pit, develop silicosis etc. Good for you. Where do you stand on women in the infantry? Probably a few thousand miles behind any front line.

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    Guido's modbot says:

    I have this problem with fluctuations.

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    ArmyChap says:

    At Sandhurst, I had to ‘look after’ a seriously highly placed member of a certain Middle Eastern nation’s royalty.

    Apart from not knowing how to work an iron, every long weekend he’d be off with his Middle Eastern chums to the Dorchester where they’d pay for an entire floor and fill it with drugs, alcohol and prostitutes. Then all magically reappear on Sunday night looking devout.

    Everyone on the staff just turned a blind eye. The price we pay for oil, I guess.

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    John Bellingham says:

    Is she an MP too?

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    Fat Lazy Slob on a sofa with a tin of beer and a bag of chips says:

    It’s all fatcher’s fault; the rich spend all day just sitting on their arses, drinking wine and feeding their faces while we workin’ class work our fingers to the bone fer nuffin

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    John Bellingham says:

    IF (and its a big IF) the Met police are clever about those water cannon they will copy the Israeli tactic. Water cannon are a dispersal weapon, not a riot control one. The idea is that you use them to break up demos, but they are too vulnerable in a real riot, so you don’t squirt water, but a mix of really stinky, stinky gunge with a colour dye. While the dye wears off in a couple of days, the stink (apparently so bad that people twenty yards away will vomit) lingers for a week or more ensuring that few suspects will be harboured by associates for long and the police dogs will be able to identify them weeks later.

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    Socialist says:

    Bu, but, but, but Fatcher invented global warming as an excuse to kill the first-born of all mining families.

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    Whitestones says:

    Aye, oops!

    How about an enquiry into this then, Milly?

    Kim Howells, the South Wales NUM official who commented on the killing of David Wilkie, later became a Member of Parliament for the Labour Party and served as a minister in the Blair government and later became chair of the Intelligence and Security Committee, a committee of parliamentarians that oversees the work of Britain’s intelligence and security agencies. In 2004 he said that when he heard that a taxi driver had been killed, he thought “hang on, we’ve got all those records we’ve kept over in the NUM offices, there’s all those maps on the wall, we’re gonna get implicated in this”. He then destroyed “everything”, because he feared a police raid on the union offices.


    Socialist scum.

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    Bless me Father for I have sinned
    They were a million souls
    All olive skinned
    Bless me Father I couldn t resist.

    Father ! You have no idea what you missed !

    I d say three Hail Marys and a Glory Be
    If ” HE ” would let me repeat the spree.
    But I ve had my day and now must wait
    For some other mad fecker to take the bait.

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    That woman ….Mrs Thatcher !
    Putting man against man !
    Pit againnst t pit !

    ( but I I ve still got my one million pound Barbican flat rent paid by the NUM so I ‘ m all right — whippet .)

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    She looks the spit image of …… well i won t say ….libel territory…….but you all know who I mean …. .

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    …..although Uncle Arthur (scargill) reminded us at the time we had 300 years reserves of it in the UK.

    WHY FRACK WHEN YOU CAN MINE (no earthquakes , minimal chance of water pollution …ok slag heaps and miners dying young of lung disease but there s always a down side )

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    Gordon Brown Prime Mentalist says:

    Does this mean a second tranche of Spads get the sack? They haven’t had time to bed in this lot since the last lot were fired for forcing a copy of the Sun into Dear Leader’s hands and forcing him to pose with it.

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    Mr Reasonable says:

    I agree, let’s have an inquiry into what the Labour MPs who were trade unionists at the time did, as well.

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    Hell Al's Bacon Butties is that Cosher says:

    Did they name the yacht after him?

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    Taffy Jones says:

    Not forgetting the dead Tony Benn who, when Energy Minister, actively campaigned to have killers of David Wilkie acquitted of all charges.

    Lest we forget, eh?

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    World Traveller says:

    Some years ago I flew from Kuwait to Bahrain – short journey of just a few hundred miles. Once the plane was airborne, the Aussie trolley dolly appeared with her mobile refreshment cabinet. As I was in the back row, I was served first and ordered a beer, but sitting just in front of me were three Kuwaiti gents immaculately dressed in their dazzling white nighties and head gear. The one on the aisle ordered three Carlsbergs which little Miss Lovelylegs handed over. She had obviously thought the order was for one each, but as she moved away the one in the middle seat said that he also wanted the same – as did the one by the window. They glugged them down in short order before we landed not long after.

    In those days, it was also very typical on Thursday afternoons (the weekend being Friday and “the next day”) to see large numbers of them heading north up the desert road to the sin city of Baghdad where the booze and women flowed freely. That was very similar to what happened next door in Saudi, but the target then was the American oil town of Dammam – and for the same reason. When things began to get a little ‘awkward’ in the middle east, the Saudis built that lovely causeway so they could all bugger off to Bahrain (same reason) away from the hard line intransigent religious loonies who otherwise ruled their lives.

    Here endeth the lesson…. :-)

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    World Traveller says:

    Oh Milly, do keep up!!!

    Just a couple of weeks ago on this forum we were informed that a ‘bimbo’ is a small Italian boy whereas you seem to be implying…

    …er…. hang on a minute…

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    Dolly says:

    Milliie’s my boy lollipop.

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    Wondering even if says:


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    Where as i also would welcome an enquiry, it is doubtful that Millitwat even knows where Orgreave isor even what it was
    The same can be said for his constituency North Doncaster

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    The Lebanon was also the playground of the idle rich , one of the most well known faces on the scene was non other than Osama Bin Laden
    Kettle calling pot spring to mind

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    ed milliband peoples representitive of somewhere up north i have to visit every now and again says:

    mining caused both water pollution and subsidence with a handy side effect of regularly killing people

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    ed milliband peoples representitive of somewhere up north i have to visit every now and again says:

    thatcher ruined my chances of working down a dark dangerous hole where i would have had to dig a hole if i wanted a shit mid shift and had a real chance of not making it to the end of my working day alive.and for that i will be forever gratefull

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    ed milliband peoples representitive of somewhere up north i have to visit every now and again says:

    i know where it is,there is a big ASDA on it now employing more people than the coking plant ever did

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    ed milliband peoples representitive of somewhere up north i have to visit every now and again says:

    anne widdacombe??yes,i was thinking the same

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    perhaps that will happen with Scotland when England becomes an islamic state?

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    Anonymous says:

    “Labour refused three such requests to release information about the 1984-5 miners’ strike.”
    And now Ed’s being just as anally retentive with the people’s EU referendum.

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