June 12th, 2014

Fabians Tell Out of Touch Miliband: Change or You’ll Lose

“Without change, Labour is choosing to lose.” That is the damning verdict of the Fabian Society in a wide-ranging intervention attacking Ed Miliband’s leadership this morning. Their analysis trailed in this week’s New Statesman is stinging in its criticism of the Labour leader. They warn: “it’s clear that Labour needs to reverse its trajectory, particularly as improvements in the economy will boost Tory polls in 2015″, that Labour is in danger of “abandoning blue-collar Britons and becoming a party of the urban middle class alone”, asking “what is the point of a social-democratic party that loses its working-class soul?” The study also find that Labour is “haemorrhaging” support to UKIP, and that the party is on course to lose six seats to Farage:

“Ukip’s results in the 2014 local and European elections demonstrate the importance of blue-collar voters for Labour. These are the voters it has been haemorrhaging for over a decade; those who once sat at home on election day and are now coming out to vote Ukip.”

The numbers say it all:

  • Labour will win significantly less than half of its 106 target seats
  • They will lose at least nine currently Labour-held seats
  • They are on course to win only 58 seats from the Tories and LibDems, ten short of the 68 they need for a majority

Red on red…


111 Comments

  1. 1
    Lootfor Rahman says:

    Fucking amateurs!

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    • 19
      An expert says:

      Ed Miliband is just too weird.

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      • 25
        Socialism is theft says:

        ‘The study also find that Labour is “haemorrhaging” support to UKIP, and that the party is on course to lose six seats to Farage:’

        Vote UKIP, stop Miliband.

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        • 56

          Vote UKIP and stop the influx of monkeys

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          • Anonymous says:

            If this was the Tories the media and especially the BBC would have this sort of muck stirring as front news. This indicates without any doubt at all that the BBC is biased, completely and utterly. Labour should not be anywhere near winning an election, they screwed up with the last government, the Tories have us back on course, we have a decent and stable government, making useful and needed reforms. Why would anyone want Labour back in. Even the people in their party are second rate and not fit to govern. The BBC must be broken up, it is a disgrace now, even its news reporting is a joke, they did not understand Syria, what is happening in Iraq and gave up on Libya, just pathetic

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        • 72
          Tom Catesby. says:

          Vote UKIP, stop milliband AND get a referendum!

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          • Aardvark says:

            The Labour party is a party of bourgeois, metropolitan trendies, who love having cheap servants and waiters and benefit them for the fat lives they live.
            It also relies on the votes of people who don’t benefit from immigration, to whom it has to grovel and lie.

            Peter Hitchens

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          • Peter Htchens says:

            Did I mention that I am bonkers?

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          • The Fabians says:

            Herr Hitler loved our eugenics policy. Progressive enough for ya, punks?

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    • 86
      Vote UKIP, Stop ConLibLab says:

      ‘Labour is “haemorrhaging” support to UKIP’

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    • 94

      Stuff it guys, once and for all: we _/want them to/_ bl@@dy lose.

      There is no justifiable reason in a modern 21st-century highly-developed nation to have something called “A Labour Party”. I mean, come on guys….what is it you do all day, you Guidoreaders? Do you heft bricks or spades, or do you click-deal on Cable in Gigapounds _in Spades_ ?

      As War Secretary, I’ll be ensuring early on, for the benefit of all the People, the abolition of the Labour Party and its associated hangers-on in the LimpDumbs, the GreeNazi-Party, the ScotzNazi-Party and a large part of the Torrid party.

      Since socialism is “not relevant to this day and age” and is therefore outmoded, Victorian, imperialist and reactionary, it will become restrospectively impermissible to do it, refer to it or to think it. The word, and all its ramifications, meanings and epistemological roots, will be rooted out of the agreed terms of public discourse.

      I can’t for the life of me figure out why other people, mostly (it would seem?) sentient, conscious and critically-curious individuals, in high places and elsewhere, want it to continue to exist, since it is so very deeply discredited.

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      putonusquam says:

      So what’s different?

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  2. 2
    M­a­­q­b­o­­ul says:

    But what does Leonid McClusterfuck say ?

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  3. 3
    Anonymong says:

    Red clown, blue clown, same result.

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  4. 5
    No money tree here says:

    A Liebour Libcrap coalition is on the cards well that’s if both get the number of votes in 2015, god help us , weak, brains in their ar5ses, people will be fleeing to Iraq and Syria

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  5. 6

    A born leader…..trouble is he ain’t got any followers, innit?

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    • 98
      Pointing my Microscope at the Stars says:

      I didn’t realise the King of the Neurotic Pygmies had died! :( I suppose Ed would be the next logical choice in succession..

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  6. 7
    Veritaholic says:

    Yet again, the socialists are behind the times. Labour abandoned the “blue collar” voters years ago. Lord Glasman, Labour said: “The Labour party became very progressive. It was committed to very abstract general ends – fairness, rights, justice – and it in many ways viewed working- class voters as an obstacle to progress. And also their commitment to various civil rights, anti-racism, meant that often working-class voters, as in the Gillian Duffy case, were seen as racist, resistant to change, homophobic and generally reactionary. So in many ways you had a terrible situation where a Labour government was hostile to the English working class.” – BBC 2, Analysis – Blue Labour, 1st March 2011

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    • 14
      David Alexrod says:

      Glasman…yet another chosen one.

      Only white goy can be racist!

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    • 39
      Desperate Dan says:

      Yes, but he was dead right. Furthermore, the student Labour politicians, who require an American to tell them how to be “folksy” have no way back to the English voter. So it is all going to rat shit.

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    • 74
      Tom Catesby. says:

      And the ‘English working class’ showed Mc Mental what they thought about that.

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  7. 8
    Anonymous says:

    But they’ll still get in through coalition. A minimum 5 years of Miliband as PM is the result of voting for UKIP. Yay.

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    • 11
      Incapable Vince, deputy Chief Cockroach says:

      I can’t wait to become Chancellor. Your tax bills will absolutely sky rocket !!

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    • 34
      Socialism is theft says:

      You arseholes would rather Miliband got seats than UKIP and that is what will happen in many seats if people are thick enough to listen to you.

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      • 37
        Socialism is theft says:

        And don’t forget it was the Tories who voted against a more proportional system of voting – so they can just fuck off and it will serve them right if the bastards lose.

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        • 63
          Anonymous says:

          No it wasn’t. We had a referendum on it, and the public didn’t want it.

          Nick Clegg then vetoed a move to equalise the size and composition of constituencies, ensuring that Labour’s rotten boroughs remain intact, and ensuring Weird Ed will be our next PM, regardless of what most people want. No doubt Clegg’s reward will come in coalition with Labour. He can certainly rest easy that there will be no referendum on the EU.

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    • 89
      Vote UKIP, Stop ConLibLab says:

      ‘Labour is “haemorrhaging” support to UKIP’

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  8. 9
    Bonny Langford says:

    Can’t wait for Millibands showing his working class credentials by kicking a football during the world cup. Hope the photographers are there to capture the stellar moment when his pants fall down.

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  9. 13
    Blue Eyes says:

    The ideal (and highly possible) outcome of the general election is the Tories get the most votes and Labour win the most seats. That will make the First Past the Post stitch-up untenable even to the Tories.

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    • 23
      Anonymous says:

      Tories get most votes – teehee!

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      • 31
        Blue Eyes says:

        The way the constituency boundary system is currently weighted towards Labour, Labour barely need to be ahead of the Tories on votes to get a parliamentary majority. If Labour believe they’re 10 seats short of that then the 2 parties must be virtually neck and neck.

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        • 76
          Tom Catesby. says:

          Don’t forget the wee jock factor. If Jock f^cks off, in September, it’s effect on a labour majority will be significant.

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    • 44
      Grey eyes says:

      Hey! If only there were some kind of referendum for PR, or possibly AV…

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      • 67
        Blue Eyes says:

        Completely different systems. One is perfectly simple and much fairer, demonstrably from the Euro election results. The other is a confusing hash that entrenches the established parties just as much as FPTP. That’s why the Tories said not to a PR referendum and only allowed one on AV.

        Fact is the Tories and Labour no longer dominate voting and they shouldn’t continue to dominate the House of Commons regardless.

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        • 99
          Democrat first, UKIP voter second says:

          I completely agree. This FPTP system is archaic and only serves to perpetuate a 2 Party System. It’s a Joke. Tack onto the end of that an English Parliament, which would be needed to balance-out the Scot’s, NI, and Welsh, and we’d be nearly there…I do envy the Jocks though, if they go for Independence, they’d get rid of Westminster and the Lords in one foul swoop. It’s going to take the rUK at least 15-20 years to be able to do that (if at all)..

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  10. 18
    Fruitcake, swivel eyed loony, closet racist, crank and gadfly says:

    Fabians shut the fuck up, he’s doing fine.

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  11. 21

    The Soya latte-drinking class ruining British political life have had it their own way for far too long. The Conservatives and the Looting Party need root-and-branch reforms, the,”professional” political elite should be consigned to a well-deserved obscurity and the LibDems become a footnote in History Like him or not, and I don’t particularly like him, Farage has cracked the mould of British politics and focussed the anger of the quiet men and women of Great Britain. The Elitist wolves are being savaged by those who were thought of a sheep. Long may this continue.

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  12. 22
    ThreadBare says:

    So a Labour charm offensive on the British neanderthal working class, which will consist of nice chappies touring the housing estates in vans blaring out anti-racist, pro immigration propaganda.

    We have been told you don’t understand about immigration, so we’re here to help you understand (and my gawd you need help).
    The NHS needs immigrants – none of you c’nuts are good enough for these jobs!
    Hug an immigrant today! You know it makes sense!

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    • 40
      The Growler says:

      The reason they, the political elite, want immigrants in the NHS is that is extremely expensive to train a doctor or nurse and in the case of a doctor a long time, so why not import doctors and nurses from abroad, ready trained and qualified. A few years back I can remember a young woman on the today program wanting to do medicine at Cambridge (because she thought it was the best in the UK) she had 5 A levels at A* level I think she got turned down by Cambridge but she was offered a busary at Harvard in the USA which she acepted.

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      • 87
        Hex Pat from Hexham says:

        A few years ago a large percentage of our just-qualified docs and other medical specialists were told in no uncertain terms that they were not wanted on the voyage – so the vast majority of them fucked off to Oz, NZ or Canada and are by now no doubt doing well quite comfortably. Labour planning at its best as usual.

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      • 88
        still walking into darkness says:

        Bit odd that we pay foreign aid and nick the best brains the third world has to work in our NHS. Bit counter productive wouldn’t you say.

        More importantly a UK trained doctor will speak English and there’s a degree of safety for the patient knowing that the doctor would in fact be properly qualified.

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      • 101
        bishop of bedford says:

        only Huntz go to Harvard…….right jay?

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    • 43
      Commercial_Brake says:

      I’d nuzzlw a newcomer – only my pet Grizzly is busy today filming a TV commercial.

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    • 58
      SIZE 15 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

      There are no longer any working class on the council estates ,just chav morons guzzling cheap cider ,selling each other the proceeds of the days shop lifting at Tesco’s , and grotesquely fat stupid chavettes without a cogent thought in their thick heads screeching obscenities at filthy faced benefit brats with 6 years olds still in nappies as they consume their evening meal of oven chips washed down with copious amounts of fizzy sugar drinks.
      Very few of them able to read a ballot paper or scrawl an X on one.
      Milliband must be aware that they are his constituency !

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      • 64
        Shitehawk says:

        Fabulous rant! Marvelous imagery bespeaking a sociologists paradise. Two cheers for representative democracy and “give the people what they want”.

        Feel free to increase your shoe size.

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      • 79
        Tom Catesby. says:

        It could be the width of the polling booths that prevent their entry.

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      • 100
        Don't force everyone to vote else the Jeremy Kyle Party will win! says:

        Not entirely true, but not entirely false either.

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  13. 24
    The Growler says:

    Poor young Teddy, the poor chap does seem rather accident prone ie if can go wrong, it does. Dubyah always seemed rather accident prone like Teddy and that was inspite of his pretorian guard of minders, doesn’t Teddy have a minder who can give advice to him while he is in the public eye? Liebore are leaking prospective voters but so are the Conners and LibDems, but they just don’t want to openly admit it, the Master can spill his bile over Farage as much as he likes but Nige is TEFLON ® Man and Nige will trust neither the Conners or Liebore because he knows they just not be trusted. Vote UKip even if you have hold your nose and give the political elite a good sound kick up where it hurts most in the ballot box

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      Peeping Tom-Keeping an eye out on Public (toilets) Opinion says:

      It’s all up for grabs. UKIP want Electoral Reform and a growing number of people are taken by the idea of Referendums on Important Issues. Who knows, maybe the UK can make it into the Top 10 Democracies within the next 10 years?

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  14. 27
    Anonymous says:

    Nice to see Uber placing an ad on the site. I’m sure they’re thanking you for yesterday’s coverage. Doubling up with the “intrepid” bear’s Spectator article – quality shilling!

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    • 33
      Ed Miliband says:

      Sorry Nell but I have spoken to hundreds of people in XXX and they all say XXXX which in my opinion is XXXXXXXX

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  15. 28
    nell says:

    Labour abandoned the working classes years ago. They thought the Islington set were far more conducive to their own upmarket personal lifestyles.

    If labour think, as militwit said yesterday, that they can overcome the blue collar aversion to their out of touch views by meeting and greeting them over a cup of tea, they are utterly delusional!

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    • 52
      Desperate Dan says:

      Labour hire US “consultants” because they believe that capturing class loyalty is a formulaic application of social science and policies and beliefs are irrelevant. Appearances are everything.

      There is now a “governing class” and ordinary people are excluded. Back to the middle ages then.

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    • 107
      'kinell says:

      - the problem for Labour is that they are, in fact, utterly delusional. Tribal loyalty to Labour was strong but now appears to be weakening fast. Its taken a long time to happen but the spectacle of the haemorrhage to UKIP is rather pleasant.

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      • 109
        Animal Farmer says:

        Because the Luddites who always voted Labour now realise they have been shafted by millionaires Bliar, Mandelson, Kinnoch, Prescott and the hundreds of other B’Stards who are living in globe-trotting luxury at the expense of the daily toil of the workers.

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  16. 29
    BBC 24hr rolling bollocks says:

    How to change Ed?
    Start with his tie and work your way up.

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  17. 30
    Nikk Clogg says:

    They can rely on our worthy band of Libdem MPs to open their legs and support them. But we must have a few ministerial limos.

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  18. 32
    today000 says:

    I’ll go with Farage rather than with any of the other useless B’stards. They’ve stuffed me all my life. I’ll try anything to get rid of them.

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    Oh, really? says:

    But Labour has always been a party of the “urban middle class alone” but has successfully pretended to be the worker’s friend.

    But the workers are seeing through them, now. A bit late, but better late than never.

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  20. 38
    a non says:

    The absence of ‘blue collar Britons’ will be adequately filled with the presence of black burqa foreigners and the postal voting anomalies.
    Can only hope for United Nations observers in 2015-

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  21. 41
    Socialism is theft says:

    The irony is that if the Tories had voted with the Lib Dems on AV then there could well have been a Tory/UKIP coalition next year instead of which we will most likely have a Labour/Lib Dem one.

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  22. 45
    Bring it on says:

    GE2015
    If there is a UKIP candidate in my constituancy, that will be my choice.
    Otherwise I will have to revert to spoiling my ballot paper as previously.
    I am a strong believer in casting my vote, even if only to register my non choice.
    Whatever the outcome, I know I will have made my choice – none of this tactical voting for me.

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    • 54
      LibDum Fuckwit says:

      I will vote Conservative tactically to keep UKIP out and preserve LibLabConnistan

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  23. 46
    Fabians are wankers says:

    Change?
    How?
    The bloke was born a mong and has been tit fed left wing shite all his life.
    When the Fabians say “change” they of course mean hide.
    Hide the fact Ed is a mong who has been tit fed left wing shite all his life.

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    • 51
      Fact says:

      Milliprat — rich shampain socialist son of a y-d immigrant

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      • 110
        Fight for your country says:

        Who despised Britain and the British.

        And was a coward who ran away rather than fight for his beliefs and his friends.

        Miliband brothers should be conscripted and forced to serve five years in the army before bring allowed to run for Parliament. Cameron and Clegg too.

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  24. 47
    ConLibLabbing Hypocritical Thieves says:

    Bumsex and Debt. Makes no real difference which lot are in “power”. We’re all the same.

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  25. 48
    Ed Fatliner says:

    Anyway how could anyone vote for retardED and his Parasite party, there are no policies apart from the odd (meaning weird) bandwagon!!

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  26. 49
    Oswald Mosley says:

    As a Fabian I am appalled these modern-day members can’t see the obvious answer. Back to our proud espousal of eugenics! Kill off these traitorous blue-collars and bring in more compliant voters!

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    Shooty* says:

    “Urban middle class”

    LOL. They won’t even use one of the many words starting with “I” which they actually mean.

    Hint: One of them also sometimes starts with “M” or “T”.

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  29. 61
    Anonymous says:

    “Fabians Tell Out of Touch Miliband”
    walking ‘round like you’ve got an Axelrod stuck somewhere, isn’t going to get you or us anywhere Ed. Try questioning everything you ever thought was real, and maybe experience reality.

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  30. 70
    Long John Silver's parrot says:

    Get a passport or book a holiday ?

    What do you do first?

    The UK these days is truly a land fit for idiots.

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    • 82
      why oh why oh why says:

      Why is there recently a big problem with passports. We are told more people are applying, is this because more people can afford to go on holiday, or is it something else?
      Are they taking longer to process, if so why ? There are plenty of articles on the fuckwittery of the applicants but I haven’t seen or heard of anyone investigating the root cause.

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      • 92
        Hex Pat from Hexham says:

        An extra 300,000 non-resident Brits who used to be able to go to their local embassy to get a new one, now have to send the old one back to a small office in the UK for a replacement. Hence the “unexpected” backlog.

        Not really that difficult.

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  31. 81
    John Johnson says:

    http://liarsbuggersandthieves.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Labour

    Liars, Buggers and Thieves: “Exposing the crimes and corruption of the Establishment Councillors”.

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  32. 84
    Alex says:

    Does anyone honestly believe there would be any discernible difference to the UK whether Dave or Ed is in number 10 this time next year.

    It’s all just smoke and mirrors.

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  33. 97

    Of course Labour are choosing to lose the next general election. They ran out of money and chose to lose the last one by keeping the unelectable Gordon Brown in charge. This time they’ll cling to Miliband because he’s equally unelectable.

    The idea isn’t to be elected. The idea is to make as much noise as possible about the current regime without making Labour look like a viable alternative. That way, they keep the party faithful happy by spouting dogmatic bile every couple of days, while the coalition goes about sorting the national debt and fixing the economy.

    It’ll take at least another eight years of economic repair by the Tories or, perish the thought, UKIP, before the national coffers look anywhere near healthy enough for Labour to want to get their grubby mitts on the purse-strings again! Until that point, we’ll just have to put up with the charade of an election every four years.

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  34. 106
    Not in my name says:

    Keep it up Ed. You are doing well. Don’t listen to them.

    People love your naive self belief, have a secret soft spot for the klutz and really like being told that you know better than them on Europe, immigration and that the economy is not improving.

    Yes you may have knifed your brother, been part of the Gordon Brown clustefcuk years and your leadership was bought and paid for by Unions but ignore all the carping.

    You are The Leader. Carry on with the magnificent work.

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  35. 108
    Hugh says:

    It can only be a matter of time before the current parliamentary constituency boundaries are changed to improve fair representation. This will be bad news for Labour who do very nicely with the existing arrangements which result in many smaller urban constituencies.

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  36. 111
    John Tandy says:

    O i do hope so……

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