June 6th, 2014

Clegg’s Recall Porkies

Fair to say the Tory backbenchers who have campaigned for a genuine recall bill didn’t take too kindly to Nick Clegg telling LBC that the Queen’s Speech fudge was all their fault. Zac Goldsmith offers Guido his thoughts:

“Clegg told listeners that he and I are ‘at one’ on the issue of Recall, that he supports ‘radical’ Recall but has had to compromise because of the Conservative backbenchers. I wish that were true, but it is the opposite of the truth. I have debated the issue with him many times, and until very recently, he was vehement in his opposition to a proper Recall system.

Nick Clegg is the architect of the current Recall Bill. It is a disgrace even by the standards of modern politics – and it will be rejected by Parliament, as it has been rejected by every single democracy campaign group in the UK. It is nothing more and nothing less than a con. Bottom line is that even after his ‘Recall’ is introduced, it would still be possible for an MP to join the BNP, fail to show up in Parliament, fail to speak to constituents, break all promises, even take a 5-year holiday without qualifying for Recall.”

Douglas Carswell is even less forgiving:

“If I can be blunt, it’s bullsh*t and he knows it. It’s straightforward deceit and he has said this simply for effect. The truth is that on the Conservative backbenches there is strong support. Where there is kickback it’s coming from people holding red boxes and people in the Cabinet Office. I wouldn’t hold it against Clegg if he opposed he idea, but what’s absolutely unforgivable is that he opposed it but pretends to be in favour.”

Who do you believe?


115 Comments

  1. 1

    Never ,never trust a Libdem ,treachery is in their DNA .

  2. 2
    Now a leftie says:

    Be bold Ed Miliband and push for a vote for proper recall. Tories and LimpDems wont do it. Ed be bold.

  3. 3
    Despairing Pedant says:

    Whom do i believe?

  4. 4
    frenchjohn says:

    Clogg is a very naughty boy. He will lose his seat in 2015 and hopefully will be heard of no more.

  5. 5
    Mailman says:

    Clegg isn’t dumb…he knows the second a “proper” recall system is introduced he will be shown the door!

  6. 6
    táxpáyér says:

    Congrats Nigel!

    Squeeky bum time for a lot of Lib, Lab & Con brand MPs

  7. 7
    Gerbil 7 says:

    Clegg is a true Lib-Dem.
    He is a liar and without a single political scruple.

  8. 8
    lescrompsblogg says:

    #OverthecliffwithNick2015

  9. 9
    Witty Moniker says:

    Quite. A two-faced Lib Dem. Whodathunkit?

  10. 10
    Anonymous says:

    Good to see Zac has “offer[ed] Guido his thoughts”, and provided a word-for-word replica of what he published on his blog earlier in the week. You must feel really special, Guido. :-)

  11. 11
    Revelling in the joys of bumsex says:

    Does he swing both ways ?

  12. 12
    Chris The Leatherman says:

    It is a disgarce that Mike Handcock is still a memeber of parliament and ther has been no by-election in Portsmouth. Until that happens then whatever Clegg has to say he is not in favour of an equiatble and fair system of recall. You judge a man by his actions not words.
    The same would would also apply to Ed Milliband and that thug Eric Joyce.

  13. 13
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    section3 New Europe district126 says:

    You get what you vote for and the people of Sheffield certainly got what they voted for.

  15. 15
    Plastic Pat says:

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  16. 16
    So what is she saying? says:

  17. 17
    Bloomers in rain-soaked Bongo Bongo Land says:

    Get Red Ed.

  18. 18
    nell says:

    Who do I believe? – well let’s just say it’s NOT cleggie!

  19. 19
    Plastic Pat says:

    sorry

    bullshitter

  20. 20
    Malcolm Rifkind, professional liar says:

    You will have seen that Vodafone listen to ALL you comversations withiut legal warrant

    We took over where Stasi left off, you see

  21. 21
    nell says:

    I doubt even she knows what she’s saying – she just opens her mouth and all this rubbish pours forth – she can’t help it.

  22. 22
    The British media are cunts says:

    I wonder if bum sex Dave is proud of himself today? All those brave soldiers betrayed by the political elite like the vermin at Westminster and the EU.

    At least Putin puts the interests of his nation first.

  23. 23
    ████ 'changed my tune ' Hoon says:

    A lying LibDem. This isn’t actually new information.

  24. 24
    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    The problem with a genuine recall system, is that it would be open to massive amounts of abuse. There would be endless mischief making from political opponents and newspapers.

    It would be used as an excuse to run damaging media headlines against MPs, especially in marginals. Even if the recall wouldn’t get very far,damaging headlines would be created.

    The political system and media make that type of system unworkable.

    I mean it is not like a number of bent MPs don’t get found out and punished.

  25. 25
    Vote Tory, Get Sharia says:

    Vote UKIP

  26. 26
    The two muppets . says:

    “Be bold Ed Milliband ” , You must be joking ,He has been sitting on the fence
    for the last 4 years with his blank piece of paper .

  27. 27
    The British media are cunts says:

    Good night for Labour then?

  28. 28
    Sun hack says:

    He will move to the family chateau in Klosters and laugh at you all…

  29. 29
    Mr Woy says:

    less what, fat useless bastards as mp’s.

  30. 30

    Couldnt trust them as far as you could throw them

  31. 31
    Chris The Leatherman says:

    Nice comment by anonymous at 11.12 this morning, interesting how journalism works.

  32. 32
    Handycock whipping it out says:

    Well done Cleggy. Boaz.

  33. 33
    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    What you have to remember with her, is that during Labour’s 13 years in office, hundreds of useless Labour MPs where sent through ministerial and junior ministerial posts, and she was never deemed suitable for one of those!
    Even those she ticks a few of the Labour diversity boxes.

  34. 34
    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    though!

  35. 35
    Clegg's home says:

    Klosters testing

  36. 36
    Restless in Godalming says:

    Sadly I wish that were the case. However we all know that the duplicitous little twat will reappear in some EU-funded guise, like Kinnock and Mandelson, to continue on the gravy train after which he will get a very generous pension far earlier than we poor sods who pay for it!

    God I hate the Lib-Dems. Even more than I hate Millibean’s mob…

  37. 37
    Zack the loony rich eco warrior says:

    Goldsmith is a loony Greenpeace zealot. Something totally overlooked in all of this.

  38. 38
    President Obama says:

    Britain must remain in the EU as our Trojan Horse

    And Scotland must grovel to London

  39. 39
    Paddy Pantsdown says:

    Nick is a strong and effective Deputy Prime Minister. The Liberal Democrats have gone from strength to strength under his guidance. The proof is that in the face of overwhelming canvassing by the panicking Tories and UKIP, our Party achieved a thoroughly creditable result at Newark.

  40. 40
    Observer says:

    Goldsmith’s Dad made hundreds of millions is tropical timber FFS

    And Zac lives on the proceeds

  41. 41
    Rejoice one lot of lefty wankers have been destroyed says:

    Nick Clegg leader of the bus pass Cable party

  42. 42
    A real life seaside post card everyday living crisis says:

    I like several blank pieces of blank paper tissue to finish off after a jobby.

  43. 43

    Vote UKIP :-D

  44. 44
    Bloomers in rain-soaked Bongo Bongo Land says:

    Don’t worry. The 29,000,000 immigrants from Bulgaria and Roumania will sort them.

  45. 45
    Barry Obama says:

    Stick together split up whatever man you red neck cracker motherfuckers in Europe all look the same to me anyway.

  46. 46
    Observer says:

    Where did Zac’s father make millions?

    Timber – look it up…

  47. 47
    Socialism is theft says:

    Dave and Nick’s coalition has lasted so long because they have so much in common. Especially immigration, the EU and green energy taxes.

  48. 48
    Green Sista says:

    LibDums — Save the Planet — cremate both Nickelarse and Vince on the same funeral pyre.

  49. 49
    Boris (not so magic) Johnson says:

    I went to Newark and the majority fell?

  50. 50
    Fact says:

    Cables should be blue and brown nowadays, not red and black like Vincent.

  51. 51
    Incapable Vince, deputy Chief Cockroach says:

    http://bit.ly/1jZfMBH

    As Deputy Prime Minister-in-waiting I cannot allow this.

  52. 52
    Not in my name says:

    A LimpDem speaking something less than the truth to further own interest.

    Why does anybody find this surprising?

    Having spent decades in the political wilderness they are a hopeless bunch of opportunists prepared to say or do anything.

    Wholly untrustworthy, cynical and manipulative. And those are their better points.

    Clegg is a dead man walking

  53. 53
    Helmer's Song says:

  54. 54
    Mr Woy says:

    I’ll settle for just dead.

  55. 55
    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    Tories hold seat very very comfortably in a by-election whilst they are in government. If they were in opposition, they might be a bit concerned, but you find they are laughing their tits off

    UKIP hoped to be much closer than that and you know it.

  56. 56
    sweet FA says:

    An MP is elected to the legislative body and is then part of a court ?
    It doesn’t matter if he is inside the HoC or outside it he/she carries the burden while they are an MP.
    If somebody lies inside a court then that is perjury for which they can be jailed.
    If an MP lies anywhere it should be considered perjury.

  57. 57
    Handycock says:

    I’m still ill but I do manage to claim my food allowance each month to keep my strength up..

  58. 58
    Vince says:

    I have no recall of anything.

  59. 59
    ThisPlaceIsJustAnotherMurdochMouthPiece says:

    Meaningless result today, in a GE UKIP are toast.

    They have minimal ground game and nothing resembling nationwide infrastructure, they’ll be utterly out campaigned but may do a pretty good job of ensuring the Tories aren’t the largest single party, leading the way for a Labour Lib Dem coalition and all the EU lovefest that will accompany it.

    At least Nigel’s had his jollies though, he’s minted and likely will have a happy time in the Lords in his dotage, having moved from one trough to another.

    Will be a lot of apoplectic Kippers in the coming couple of years once they realise just how futile all their spleen venting has been. Lefties will be chortling though.

  60. 60
    Unrepresented Pompey Voter says:

    But where are you Handy? Nobody has seen or heard from you for months. The first and most obvious candidate for recall.

  61. 61

    Dropping majority over 12% in a very safe seat after running massive campaign, whilst in coalition, is something the Cons should not be over enthused about.

    Looking at the swings, the electorate is still shifting towards UKIP, and the centre ground has not finished moving.

    These are facts which are known – If they are laughing, then that laugh will be hollow.

    Vote UKIP :-D

  62. 62
    Calamity Clegg, Chief Cockroach says:

    As long as that’s all you’re keeping up.

  63. 63

    Definitely need to focus more on Labour.

    UKIP seem to have successfully seen off the Lib Dems now.

    On the Conservative win, no mention at all of postal votes: The sound of silence there is deafening.

    Vote UKIP :-D

  64. 64
    Sue Denim says:

    What happened to your capital “I”?

  65. 65
    Handycock whipping it out says:

    Hiding in my villa in Spain that my grateful boys bought for me for the planning permissions I gave them to house the adylum seekers I brought in to the city. There is no way I am going into that Court on the 16 June. I am doing a Margaret Moran with a bent Brother Psychistrist from the Royal Navy, who is giving me a dodgy sicknote saying I am not fit to attend. Thank goodness for the Brothethood . Boaz

  66. 66
    dave's rehab says:

    Zac was recruited by Dave when he thought he had to detoxify the Tory party by becoming green and go around hugging huskies and planting windmills on chimneys.

  67. 67
    Viperous Old Vince says:

    Why would anyone listen to ‘Toxic Nick’ Clegg.

  68. 68
    One MP, One Vote says:

    Once the bill is in parliament, MPs can propose any amendment they wish and get it voted on.

    So Goldsmith and Carswell can put forward amendments and se if their Conservative collegues vote for them.

  69. 69
    ThisPlaceIsJustAnotherMurdochMouthPiece says:

    Nonsense

    Only dropping 12% in the latter stages of a parliament, this is a seat that was held by Labour

    Not sure why you think “whilst in a coalition” is somehow a positive for them either

    Have heard all this over excited crowing by Kippers before, will soon be followed by the usual conspiracy theories, bawling and capitulation once they realised all they’ve achieved is little other than help usher in a Labour / Lib Dem coalition and a new envigorated expansion of EU meddling in UK life.

    Irony overload.

  70. 70
    ThisPlaceIsJustAnotherMurdochMouthPiece says:

    “was held by Labour as recently as 2000

  71. 71

    More likely to be a Labour-UKIP coalition, unless Conservatives go for a Grand Coalition.

  72. 72
    James O'Brien says:

    Zac’s father was a member of The Mayfair Set and they were involved in many dodgy dealings.

  73. 73
    Joe Public says:

    Just signed the TPA petition for a proper recall procedure.
    I suggest you all do the same, except the Liebor trolls of course.
    If UKIP can put their thinking cap on they could be the third party in the UK, and kick Clegg, Cable, and Co out on their backsides, as well as give the other two parties a real fright. Will need strategic thinking though, and some funds.

  74. 74
    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    UKIP’s share of the vote was less than Eastliegh by-election :-)

    Turnout was 20% down on the GE in Newark. Are they all UKRAPPERs that missed the 10pm deadline?

    You are a crashing bore and internet cancer.

  75. 75
    Half-breed raging hypocrite from Chicago says:

    France is our bestest friend and we all love you to bits…….you cheese eating surrender monkeys.

    …. despite the fact that you deliberately fucked up NATO and made us all move to Brussels.

  76. 76
    inside out says:

    Followed by job in EU at 250,000 euros a year.Watch this space.

  77. 77
    Just Saying. says:

    Anger wastes energy while despising will harbour it.

  78. 78
    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    “no mention at all of postal votes”

    FUCK OFF!

    The Tories don’t work postal votes, that is your old friends in Labour’s dirty trick.

  79. 79
    inside out says:

    Well Diane as the main opposition party,why did Labour come third to UKIP.Answers please if you have one.

  80. 80
    Monty P says:

    Nicky Clegg and the Lib Dems are utterly finished after their car crash in Newark and losing the deposit. It’s a party of perverts and loosers led by a liar. Finished, dead ducks and no more. The voters have seen through them all.

  81. 81
    Oh, really? says:

    Imagine a recall organised by Guardianista Quislings. What on earth could go wrong?

  82. 82
    Pub Landlord says:

    Guido is starting to moderate my comments so I’m off good luck to all of you I aint reading this column again.

  83. 83
    Pub Landlord says:

    Just delete me Guido and best wishes to you sir. it’s a great column.

  84. 84
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  86. 86
    Dangerous Brian says:

    Silly, silly, vacuous, stupid, hypocritical, lazy, self absorbed woman.

  87. 87
    Carmen Miranda says:

    I, I, I, I, I, I love you veeeeerry much, I, I, I, I, I, I think you’re great!

  88. 88
    Orson Cart says:

    Douglas is local to me and one of the few honest MPs that say it as it is. Bashing his head against a wall with the Tories, should join up with Farage to make an appealing team.

  89. 89
    Peter Mandelstain, 4x2 says:

    If you were to judge me by my actions you’d conclude that I am a rimmer, a felcher, a buggerer of boys, a chicken strangler and a self-confessed player of the pink oboe.

    Don’t forget liar, thief, murderer and NWO despot.

    Back to work, peasants, these yachts don’t buy themselves you know.

  90. 90
    Votes are for little people says:

    If only we did get what we voted for. I don’t remember voting for this smarmy piece of excrement to be deputy PM, nor the chinless wonder to be PM, actually.

  91. 91
    Diane Abbopotamus disgusts me says:

    Less NigNøgs would be a nice start.

  92. 92
    My solution is says:

    Is there not a way of determining which fetuses are intending to become an MP, and then abort the buggers?

  93. 93
    Typical lefty response to criticism says:

    Wayyyyciiiiist

  94. 94
    From the mouths of babes says:

    A message from a voter-to-be

  95. 95
    Twampersand mk II says:

    There won’t be a Lib Lab pact because the Libs are facing electoral extinction, they are going to be decimated at the GE. All Ukip can hope for is preventing a tory majority, which may, most unfortunately, lead to a Labour minority gov, another shambolic pantomime for 18 months or so and then another GE. That would be when they could make a real, significant challenge.

    The obstacles are enormous for them, and if they do not do it soon, it will become impossible to break up the round-robin governments we have had for the last 100 years.

  96. 96
    David Miles says:

    Why bother with Clegg? He’s as important as the BNP

  97. 97
    Alf Garnett says:

    The lengths to which Clegg will go, to keep that Handycock bloke from being slung out, are just extraordinary.

    It’s somewhat in vain, as the whole LibDem cadre will be chucked out in 11 months or so anyway.

  98. 98
    Major Cockstand says:

    How many more times do you have to be told……the mans a fucking buffoon, I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw Eric Pickles.

  99. 99
    Major Cockstand says:

    Not too long a go he was a Tory creep so what does that say about them, they were quite happy to back him then.

  100. 100
    The Critic says:

    It’s the GE ithat matters. UKIP have a long way to go and everything is rigged against them. The LibDems have been around in some guise or other for years and have only managed to sniff power now because Cameron bottled it.

    Farage needs to think about Clegg,who put himself up as the alternative to the others -people have seen what he is really like and might well make the same assumption with Farage.

    PS if Nigel is not standing as an MP,who would be Prime Minister?

  101. 101

    Agree GE is what will count.

    Before then, the manifesto is due out shortly.

    Will be interesting reading.

  102. 102
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Easy do a prenatal scan – the foetus with shit coming out of its mouth is a potential MP

  103. 103
    Julian the Wonderhorse says:

    I believe Clegg, he f*cked 30 birds, you know

  104. 104
    Socialism = Starvation says:

    How about making those proposing it pay the election costs up front? Tellers, printing, postage, and candidates (from last election) campaign costs and barring anyone (other than the incumbent) who runs in an unsuccessful recall from standing for/working in public office or receiving public funds for 15 years?

    And a vote in the constituency for a motion of recall needing to be carried in a majority of council wards, again all paid for? No postal votes etc.

  105. 105
    TJ says:

    I’m looking forward to the day when one of the Tory backbenchers goes medieval on his ass in the chamber and calls him a bullshitter in totally non-parliamentary language. Then withdraws it and escapes punishment.

  106. 106
    Uncle Fester says:

    You a 100 % certain they were ALL Girls Julian

    I mean it is the limp Dims we are talking about here

  107. 107
    frenchjohn says:

    Not if I pop across and fill him full of lead.

  108. 108
    Grand Master, Grand Lodge, Great Queen Strett says:

    Jahbulon Handy.

  109. 109
    Corby says:

    Now that is hardly fair after all the nice Mr Clegg promised no increase in university fees, no bedroom tax, er er er oh shoom mishtak – sorry.

  110. 110
    Jen The Blue says:

    Clegg’s a Lib Dem. Clegg’s a mainstream politician. Clegg’s a liar.

    All say the same thing.

  111. 111
    Bob cuntface Crow says:

    There is more patriotism in one of the old soldiers discarded toenail clippings than in Cameron.

  112. 112
    We the People says:

    When a proper recall law is passed by parliament ie one that is controlled by the constituents, not MPs, I suggest 2 MPs to test the process – Gordon McJonah (Labour) and Nick Plebb (Lib dems).

    Let’s do an EU vote on them. If the first vote does not get rid of these nonentities keep voting until they are no longer able to influence this country.

  113. 113
    John Tandy says:

    Clegg telling whoppers yet again…..

  114. 114
    Anonymous says:

    “Who do you believe?”
    Generally, the person who says: Ask me anything you like, and if you don’t like the answers I give, keep questioning me. As that way when I say stuff that doesn’t make any sense, I’m the one with the problem of explaining why that is.

  115. 115
    Big Knob says:

    I’ve always been of the opinion that the Liberals are an odd lots with some rather disgusting habits that they like to encourage others to join in.


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