June 5th, 2014

New Statesman Retracts False Darling Nazi Quote

New Statesman editor Jason Cowley has an interview with Alistair Darling as his splash this week. Discussing Alex Salmond and the SNP, Cowley runs a series of explosive quotes from Darling, including quoting Darling as describing the SNP’s ideology as “blood and soil nationalism”. Given that Blood and Soil is an ideology most famously used by the Nazis in 1930s Germany, cybernats jumped on the comment. This graphic is doing the rounds online:

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Just one problem: Darling never actually said those words. I’m fact, it was the interviewer who used the words “blood and soil”, not him. The following retraction has appeared at the top of the article on the New Statesman website:

Clarification, 22.36: Owing to a transcription error, Alistair Darling was incorrectly quoted using the words “blood and soil nationalism” to describe the SNP’s non-civic nationalism. The phrase was raised in conversation but not used directly by Mr Darling. This is the disputed exchange:

NS: Salmond has successfully redefined the SNP as [representing] a civic nationalism . . .
Darling: Which it isn’t . . .
NS: But that’s what he says it is. Why do you say it isn’t? What is it? Blood and soil nationalism?
Darling: At heart . . . [inaudible mumble] If you ask any nationalist, ‘Are there any circumstances in which you would not vote to be independent?’ they would say the answer has got to be no. It is about how people define themselves through their national identity.

Whoops!


136 Comments

  1. 1
    Mitch says:

    He ruined the UK economy, but just make sure you don’t misquote him.

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  2. 2
    Leon Trotsky says:

    Why are national socialists so despised by international socialists?

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    • 28
      Binky Bonky says:

      Hullo Giles

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    • 55
      táxpáyér says:

      The left are Tribeopaths, like psychopaths only care about self, tribopaths only care about their own group and fuck the rest. It doesn’t matter that the groups are very similar, in fact that makes it even worse.

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    • 136
      maryjf says:

      Are they I hadnt noticed

      Here’s our shadow education secretary taking part in a debate about whether Marx was right or not , and obvious as an author of a book about Engels (Marx and Engels authorised the communised manifesto) he’s backing Marx ‘was right’

      anyone think these views are ‘too’ extreme to be in control of general education?

      the entire debate (with opposing views- this is just Hunts presentation) are another iqsquared debate called ‘karl marx was right’

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  3. 3
    Bye Bye Scotchies says:

    I don’t know which result will be funnier – Yes or No. Either way, Salmond is toast.

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  4. 4
    Dave says:

    pissing down, freezing cold, in June = Global Warming, plebs.

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    • 65
      Ecoloon says:

      Um we don’t call it that anymore because in most places its actually getting cooler. We refer to it as climate change these days as it suits our wholly subjective view.

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      • 76
        Green Taxes Trougher says:

        Man made climate old chap, keep up with the project

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      • 128
        Salmond has a nose for PICTs says:

        It’s been called Person-Influence Climate Throbbing from Monday, to indicate that there is uncertainty in the direction of the change.

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  5. 6
    Juan Coeur says:

    What if the [inaudible mumble] was “Yes”.

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  6. 8
    Blud_und_Boden says:

    Did the Fuhrer comb his hair?
    If so we’d better ban combs too.

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  7. 11
    Nigel Farage, Maltese Junket King says:

    I love baiting the cyber nats!

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  8. 13

    What I would like to know is when is Enoch Powell going to posthumously obtain a comparable retraction from the entire fourth estate who misattributed the words “Rivers of Blood” to his speech at the General Meeting of the West Midlands Area Conservative Political Centre on 20 April 1968?

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    • 15
      jgm2 says:

      The first casualty in the war on British identity.

      The first victim of the crime of ‘racism’ by accusation.

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      • 25

        I would suggest that a vote for UKIP is the British public’s way of getting their revenge on the perpetrators of that war.

        A fine irony it is that many of those who hail from other corners of the planet but have settled here are taking UKIP’s side too. I welcome it as a burst of good sense in an otherwise insane world.

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    • 27
      Hadley "Screaming Banshee" Freemann says:

      RACIST

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      • 36

        Thank you. Is that a fashion accessory?

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        • 87
          Bert says:

          You know very well what it is — a worn-out (and hence, now, meaningless) insult hurled by anyone of a leftist persuasion at anyone else whose views do not coincide precisely with their own :-)

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        • 94
          Village Idiot says:

          ….A word not heard much , and even less, told, is “Truth”, which I was brought up to uphold absolutely! Beaten into us, Sunday schooled into us,Boy Scouted (B.Powell version) into us, truth was the only way,and to tell fibs was to invite punishment from God!
          ……It has been hard to adapt to a lying,bulls*itt*n completely dishonest, society, where every layer, every strand of society , from mp’s to preists, have all had bad apples in them, but, age hardens you and some knowledge saddens you!….But, ..hey..the sun has got his hat on…..Mmm?

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  9. 14
    the general public says:

    Looks like he is agreeing with the comments of the interviewer, so just as long as he didn’t say the words that makes it alright…………!

    ……and as for “positive” campaigning………..

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    • 18
      jgm2 says:

      But how is Darling supposed to know that ‘blood and soil nationalism’ is the kind of stuff the nazis used to say?

      I didn’t? Did you?

      Is it really fair to feed an interviewee some obscure quote and then fall about clutching your pearls if they don’t recognise the trap being set?

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      • 19
        bergen says:

        I agree. They tried to set him up but I’m surprised that anyone noticed. I didn’t think anyone reads the NS these days. I don’t blame Darling for being furious about such a cheap stunt though.

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        • 49
          Socialism is theft says:

          It is the kind of cheap stunt that happens to Farage every day of the week. Even when he is abroad the smearers are out to get him.

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          • Bert says:

            Darling is a bit of a twunt, and failed to resign as Brown’s chancellor, but from time to time one gets a faint gleam from him of something that might be construed as residual humanity. (Bearing in mind that he’s a socialist, of course, but that’s probably genetic and not his fault.)

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          • bergen says:

            Darling’s socialism is anything but genetic. He comes from a prominent old establishment Scottish family and is another Labour ex-public schoolboy.

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          • Och Aye the noo says:

            .. and perennial house flipper…

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      • 66

        It has that all too familiar ring of socialist-style emotivism to it. If one has studied German or war history then that and lebensraum would be familiar.

        For the average person who had not needed to study that field, it would mostly be unknown, I would agree.

        As Darling was, in his misspent youth, a supporter of the International Marxist Group, it is almost certain he would have been familiar with that expression. However his response was wholly appropriate in that piece above as one would expect from one of the few better politicians from that quarter.

        Given that Jason Cowley, the editor of NS was his interlocutor, the misquote is inexcusable.

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      • 80
        Worth Saying says:

        Our blood made this soil. This soil made our blood.

        It’s a simple statement of fact attributed to the nazis in order to try and discretit it.

        The elites are trying to separate peoples from their lands in order to profit from the comoditisation of the movements of large numbers of people. Think of living space and ost arbeiters. The elites are the nazis.

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      • 135
        surlyscot says:

        Darling is spot on with regard to Salmond being Kim Jon what-the-fuck, he would turn us into a version of North Korea, does anybody think Scotland is democratic with this load of shite in charge?? thousands of objectors to useless bird and bat blending turbines – any change! nah, don’t be stupid, The EU is more democratic. No really.

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  10. 16
    judging by his trousers, the chap on the left has let emotion get the better of him says:

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    • 21
      Adolph Hitler(UKIP) says:

      He was my chosen one to replace me upon my own death.

      Lidice shall die!

      Brutal Nazi Governor?
      The Czechs couldn’t work any harder for the Nazi cause.
      Reinhard paid them bonuses for all war production and this is why Churchill dropped the Czechs from any post war hand-outs.
      Hence the Czech assassination upon dear Reinhard against the wishes of the Czech underground who knew what I would do in retaliation.

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      • 39
        Ed Milimong's One Nation Socialism says:

        “this is why Churchill dropped the Czechs from any post war hand-outs”

        Or alternatively Czechoslovakia was ruled from Moscow and Britain was broke.

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        • 70
          Adolph Hitler(UKIP) says:

          Check the date dum dum!
          Soviet control wasn’t on the agenda at that point.
          Churchill considered the Czech to be near conspirators of Nazi aggression and the Czech Government in exile in London knew this.
          This is why Czech soldiers in Britain were sought out to be landed in a suicide mission to kill dear Reinhard.

          At the end of the war and post Lidice, the underground confronted the exiled Prime Minister and Generals and demanded answers.

          The PM and Generals handed them a blank piece of paper and asked to write of all underground attacks upon the Nazis (as all other occupied countries did).

          The paper remained blank and former underground members left.

          Now guess how we found the assassins as we killed them.

          nb. Churchill, now out of Government went to the USA to beg the case for Socialism and for ‘near Communist’ monopolies (NHS/Pits/Rail etc on behalf of Atlee.
          The USA at first said no, but later agreed that the anti USA (anti capitalist) funds would be given to Churchill.

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          • Mine d'Boggles says:

            Is it true that the best tanks of WW2 were made in CZ at what are now the Skoda works?

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  12. 23

    Vote UKIP :-D

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  13. 26
    The N@ked N@zi says:

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      jimmy says:

      And so what? This was before the War and before the Final Solution. They were simply being polite in someone else’s country. Nazi Germany at that time was an intolerant state and causing trouble in European diplomacy. Much of that could be applied to a number of states.

      When we went to olympics in peking a few years back and tried to be politee and acknowledge their gestures and customs does that mean we approved of their government.
      Answer – No. And I doubt many of the English football players there liked Hitler’s brand of anti-Semitic socialism.

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    • 42
      South America home of the facist says:

      Perez no doubt comes from a country which gave N@zi war criminals sanctuary after the war.

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  15. 30
    Alex Salmond says:

    Och noo the thought of living in Texas and being governed by Washington is too much for ma wee brain to take.
    Even three hundred miles up the M1 is too far in my tiny mind.

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  16. 32
    Bosun Higgs says:

    Another dishonest apology. The phrase ‘blood and soil nationalism’ wasn’t used AT ALL by Mr Darling, never mind ‘directly’.

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    • 63
      Socialism is theft says:

      But he agreed with the opinion. And his opinion was right about the racist SNP party. National Socialists are just the same vermin as international socialists.

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  17. 33
    Nick Clegg is a twta says:

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  18. 37
    Uyopain_Iriugare_Balatouchy says:

    We all live in a sort of free speech dystopia.
    From the dawning, Freudian stages of early development, the education of the Nursery will really have to get to grips with cleansing the infant’s language centres of all impure, uncharitable, egocentric or biased speech.
    Goodness knows how all this repressed thought and smothered natural instinct is going to manifest itself in a single dramatic episode of later life.
    A bit like when the Capt’n of HMS Pinafore could not quell the word, DAMN perhaps.

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  19. 46
    Twitter is the new clothes line gossip. says:

    What is so wrong with borrowing slogans anyway?

    Just ignore the twitterati.

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  20. 51
    JPJ2 says:

    Not even a pretence that Darling did not compare Salmond to a murderous North Korean though.

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  21. 52
    What big ears you've got says:

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    • 56
      Call Chuka.....A Twat says:

      FFS even when he’s on the wireless he’s got his photographer in tow.

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    • 68
      Chuka Obama Ft Dale says:

      It’s Chuka on the LBC comin right at ya with his homeboy Dale the dog wrestler and some massive tunes.
      Jamone motherfucker.
      Ooh Hoo

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    • 75
      Babys arm holding an apple says:

      Reminds me of those old PG Tips ads.

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  22. 54
    It's not a Nazi uniform but an army uniform says:

    !

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  23. 57
    Ed Balls Diary says:

    When I first laid eye’s on Yvette’s smooth bottom I knew I had to marry her.

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  24. 58
    Meanwhile, in a galaxy far far to the left says:

    Upon finding the Auryn, some cannot contain their joy…

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  25. 60
    Femen@zis says:

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    • 69
      They could go far says:

      They are rather good at marching in time with their Jack boots. All they’ve got to do now is synchronise the tit bounce.

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    • 102
      Max Mosley says:

      Are they for hire?

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    • 130
      Funny old world says:

      I’m confused – are they the fascists?

      They’ve certainly got the salute and marching off to a reasonable start.

      Not sure about the significance of getting their tits out for the lads.

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  26. 61
    Lutfur Rahman says:

    Tower Hamlets election: two arrests, eight police investigations into malpractice

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10877000/Tower-Hamlets-election-two-arrests-eight-police-investigations-into-malpractice.html

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    • 72
      cheche says:

      I feel so enriched

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    • 106
      Mycroft says:

      Perfect day to bury bad News… the BBC is hidebound on any Political comment today.

      Just lucky I suppose.

      This one of the fellow travellers of ‘diversity’, you have to accept ‘Foreign Practices’ in forms the majority find ghastly.

      The entire TH fiasco should result in a re-vote, but the Election watchdog is incapable of anything other than snoring whilst it sleeps on the couch.

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      • 118
        One for you, one for me... says:

        Why is this Watson woman still in post? When is Cameron going to start the bonfire of the quangos?

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        • 121
          Mycroft says:

          She sleeps.

          The Forum burns.

          She stirs.

          The forum burns.

          She goes back to sleep.

          That’s why.

          The post was in the past just window dressing, this country used to behave correctly and respect voting, now some contingents don’t they haven’t a clue just what to do.

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  27. 74
    Herr Haupstampfuererrrrer says:

    Ach zo, for you Ballz, the politics is OVER!

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  28. 77
    Kim Jong Salmond says:

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    • 88
      Alex Salmond says:

      I have a dream.
      A peoples republic of Scotland which embraces Green ideaology whilst basing all it’s financial plans on oil revenue.

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      • 96
        Jeremy Cuntson says:

        And yes Mr Salmon remember what happened when English coal became uneconomical to extract and too expensive to sell. Same thing could happen in the near future to your imagined oil reserves.

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  29. 84
    St Vincent de Cable says:

    Give us this day all that you showed me –
    The power and the glory
    till my kingdom comes.
    Give us this day all that you showed me –
    The power and the glory
    till my kingdom comes.
    Give me all the storybook told me
    The faith and the glory
    till my kingdom comes.
    And they said that in our time all that’s good will fall from grace.
    Even saints would turn their face in our time.
    And they told us that in our days
    Different words said in different ways
    Have other meanings from he who says in out time:
    Give us this day all that you showed me – . . .
    And they said that in our time we would reap from their legacy

    We would learn from what they had seen in our time.
    And they told us that in our days
    We would know what was high on high

    We would follow and not defy in our time.
    Give us this day all that you showed me – . . .
    Faithless in faith
    we must behold the things we see.
    Give us this day all that you showed me . . .

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  30. 85
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    Yet another example of the UK’s dumbed down media.

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    • 100
      Average Journo says:

      We work very very hard searching twitter and checking inaccuracies before publishing. Now fuck off, it’s 2pm, I’ve been in the pub 4 hours waiting for a politician to show up and I need to go home and sleep it off.

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  31. 95
    roddymacdonald2014 says:

    Surprised to see Guido so credulous.

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  32. 98
    Ohthisbloodypc says:

    It’s not new.

    And they’re not very statesmanlike

    But still….. why not sign up for a subscription to New Statesman

    (contributions by Medhi Hasan, Penny Dreadful and that bloke who operates the canned laughter machine for Rory Bremner)

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  33. 101
    Genghiz the kahn says:

    Alex Salmong keads The Scottish Non-Nazty Party.

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  34. 103
    Col Ripper of Braintree says:

    UKIP women are the best looking

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  35. 104
    Pass the Salt Darling! says:

    This is a shame, as I rather would love Scotland to leave the room so 50 odd Labour grubby grabbing mps can also leave parliament and save us all from that twit Eddy Militant ruling us with his twisted champagne socialism and menacing ways.

    The wife and me and few friends will fare better than most as we have worked and saved hard and we can afford a little trip abroad on 8 May 2015. It may well turn into more than the planned 10 months we r renting a house for and we are fully prepared to stay for 5 years or more and maybe stay away forever who knows!

    Militant is so dangerous and his govt would be so awful and restricting to most decent non labour people I don’t think people realise this at all. You have been warned. We are not free!

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  36. 105
    Socialism is theft says:

    I still can’t get my head round a party, calling themselves National Socialists. that hated Jews because they were capitalists and sought to nationalise industry, is now considered to be a far-right party.

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  37. 107
    Red Ed's army says:

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  38. 108
    Look on the bright side says:

    They will cull the gay population.

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    • 120
      Chuck 'em out says:

      Can we now please export all these extremist teachers now? Doha seems to be the in place this week.

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  39. 109
    White Children not welcome in English School says:

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  40. 114
    LochaberNoMore says:

    “Darling: At heart . . . [inaudible mumble]”

    That’s a good summary of the “Better Together” campaign so far.

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  41. 122
    The Critic says:

    Premonitions of a future association with Miliband?

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  42. 123
    Pub Landlord says:

    They’re not Nazis they’re not even conservatives! The SNP is in fact another Social Democrat movement just like all the others!

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  43. 127
    play the tape says:

    play the tape

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  44. 132
    Jacky Treehorn says:

    Th

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  45. 133
    Jacky Treehorn says:

    That’s the left all over. Always putting the words they want their enemy’ to say rather than what they actually do. Decietful slime bags always have been always will be.

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