June 4th, 2014

Dave Gets Fracked

Last year Greenpeace turned up at George Osborne’s home in Tatton to mock up a huge would-be fracking operation, today they are giving the PM similar treatment. Professor Stephen Hesselbo, of Oxford University’s Earth Sciences department, explains why the science isn’t on Greenpeace’s side:

“It has been known for more than 100 years that the Oxfordshire-Buckinghamshire region is underlain by a variety of sedimentary rocks types, including shale, and locally they have generated gas.”

They are standing in the way of the UK’s dash for gas…


169 Comments

  1. 1
    M­a­­q­b­o­­ul says:

    That’s why he’s smiling – it’s just gas.

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    • 7
      Socialism is theft says:

      Maybe the Greenpeace protesters should stop being such hypocrites and stop using all that nasty electricity, petrol and gas.

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      • 23
        M­a­­q­b­o­­ul says:

        Quite. I wonder how they got all that construction kit to Cameron’s house? By horse and car no doubt.

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        • 26
          M­a­­q­b­o­­ul says:

          ..and cart

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          • Toxic Labour for Spongers, Parasites, Criminals, Layabouts & other Wasters says:

            These Greenpeace idiots are religious zealots who need to be rounded up and put down. They add no value to anyone’s life and just make my energy bills higher. New slogan is don’t gas the badgers, gas the Greenpeace idiots!

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          • M­a­­q­b­o­­ul says:

            We should hunt the Green Na­zis with dogs and harpoon them.

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          • Aardvark says:

            As long as they’re Fair Trade, organic harpoons made by a Peruvian Maoist collective.

            These are members of a silly religious cult.

            There is no Trojan Horse conspiracy in the media, this cult has already got its extremists evangelicals into positions of power.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Wow look, a conference of village idiots. Religious zealots? That’s hilarious. How do Greenpeace make your energy bills higher Toxic LfSPCL&oW? Go on enlighten us. You are such a *tard. It’s right wing capitalist greed that makes your energy bills higher.

            Climate change is the biggest catastrophe facing humankind, and you are pissing and moaning about Greenpeace trying to protect you from yourself. You couldn’t make it up. Clownshoes like you deserve everything you get. When you are swept away by the next flood that FYI is caused by climate change, I won’t even stick out my hand as you go by. I’m just gonna let you drown. Our gene pool clearly needs pruning, and you are for the chop.

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      • 24
        Watermelonoma says:

        The Greens want to take us back to the stoneage, and if they got in power, millions would die because of their anti-eneergy and anti-agricultural policies. But hey, that’s commies for you.
        Green on the outside, Red throughout.

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        • 109
          Watermelon says:

          I’m green on the outside but inside I’m a nasty authoritarian red Leninist in the pay of Moscow and Berlin.

          First I’ll enslave you to German light bulb manufacturers then I’ll enslave you to Putin’s energy oligarchs but hey, what about the polar bears?

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          • Poley bear on a mint says:

            Don’t worry about us old boy, over 30 000 of us up here and we are doing just fine.

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        • 129
          táxpáyér says:

          Greens are fascists in denial.

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          • Jack Ketch says:

            Please remember that the spiritual origins of the 20thC Green Movement lie with the Wandervogel in Germany and the Kibbo Kift in Britain which folded into the NSDAP and the British Union of Fascists respectively.
            Nationalist fascism drew strongly on “back-to-nature” and pagan philosophy. Interestingly, the Kibbo Kift (Ancient Kentish for “proof of Great Strength) were known as the “Greenshirts” and faded away after the ban on political uniforms in 1936–a small wing survives today as the Woodcraft folk.

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          • Aardvark says:

            Very true.

            Hitler’s National Socialists had an anti-capitalist, green movement that makes this lot look like amateurs.

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      • 25
        Spartacus says:

        as the bbbc will tell you – fracing means they let off bombs underground to release gas. they even made a mini film about it. so it must be true

        another clear example of left wing edukashun, edukashun, edukashun that obviously didn’y work.

        or maybe they have an agenda?

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      • 145
        RichUpNorth says:

        They need to stop talking and get drilling. As it is the intention of protestors to stop energy production which the country needs, they should be dealt with under the Prevention of Terrorism Act.

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    • 45
      dai mining says:

      isn’t there also ironstone under the oxfordshire countryside and substantial coal deposits south of coventry and birmingham?

      weren’t these the targets of pre-second world cup nimbyists?

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    • 93
      The Growler says:

      Of course Dave would welcome shale gas exploration in his constituency, he is not a hypocrite is he? It would create jobbies for his constituents, that is why they have altered the mineral rights so that land owners could participate in the large bonanza expected, any possible earthquakes induced would happen up to 60 miles away, like London. There must be a lot of methane in old closed coal mines as the coal underground degrades, creating methane they just just burn it off at present.

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      • 135
        SIZE 15 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

        For ‘earthquakes’ read mining subsidence ,an easily dealt with inconvenience that is by no means certain to occur !

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        • 150
          The Growler says:

          So where may I ask are the old coal mines in Lincolnshie but there is oil there, the nodding donkeys have been there for years

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    • 127
      táxpáyér says:

      Someone should cut the electricity and gas to their offices in winter.

      After a few days of this happening they might even get the message.

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  2. 2
    suissebob says:

    Loony tunes, a bunch of know nothing morons who make up any old shit to serve their far left agenda.

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    • 62
      Jeffrey Bernard says:

      I will bet that the luddites did not use sail power to get to the PM’s home. I will also bet that their plastic helmets were not made from naturally grown, renewable sources. #ignoranthypocrites

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    • 71
      Time 2 CTRL, ALT & DEL says:

      why arent they at work?

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    • 88
      Get a proper job says:

      Are these not just the same professional protesters who were down at Greenham Common in the 80s? They were probably sat up a tree at Tyford Down too. Then they moved on to anti capitalist demos outside St Pauls when that became trendy (remind me how well that went again?). Now their new “cause” is anti-fracking.

      And in all their shrieking and wailing, they have made not one iota of difference.

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      • 136
        Jack Ketch says:

        The save-the-planet Greens have effectively killed off zero-emission nuclear power generation and ensured its replacement by nice lung-friendly coal.

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        • 164
          Bunny says:

          The bastards also managed to get deep sea induction off the table as a method of disposing of nuclear waste, so we still store the stuff were it isn’t safe.

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    • 139
      Oswald Mosley says:

      Greenpeace are my kind of fascists.

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  3. 3
    A Conservative who hates Cameron says:

    They should build a mock-up of the HS2 railway through Dave’s back garden, too. And then bulldoze his front garden and cover it with homes immigrants.

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  4. 4
    john in cheshire says:

    Greenpeace- an oxymoron if ever there was one; a nasty irritant and reduced to being a caricature of the unthinking do-gooder.

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    • 8
      Alright on da night says:

      I seen worse – namely the Tory Party

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    • 31
      Spartacus says:

      greenpiece(of shit) = self promotion organisation

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    • 142
      Helpless voter says:

      Yet they seem to have more juice with our government than my MP does. Greenpeace, for whom nobody voted yet they can drive up my energy bill on a half arsed whim.

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      • 162
        Anonymous says:

        You keep believing that Greenpeace drive up you energy bills, while Torie capitalist greed sucks us all dry. I am ashamed to admit that I am a conservative …

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  5. 5
    Seychelles here I come... says:

    Why would drilling a mile and a half laterally under my house be any inconvenience?

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  6. 6
    Brit Geological survey says:

    See the toff’s second/third homes gradually slip into the abysss

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    • 16
      M­a­­q­b­o­­ul says:

      Whatever makes your sad bastard little life happier.

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    • 151
      The Growler says:

      Oxfordshire does not stand on a limestone substrata does it, I know London gets its water from limestone areas, there could be some lovely sink holes just ready to implode because nobody knows where they are.

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  7. 9
    Julian Gibb says:

    “…they are standing in the way”

    Amazing how the official science always supports the government position. I have been 35 years in the Oil & Gas industry and well completions do go wrong. Cement jobs fail and micro fissures allow communication between zones. A cement “shoe” can be damaged by poor operational controls.

    100 miles offshore it’s costly and presents risks to a platform crew. However do you want that to go wrong in your community?

    The science is perhaps OK. The quality is a practical issue.

    Ask about micro fissures / annulas communication / casing corrosion / washout / gas pockets / loss zones etc etc.

    Do not focus on the Science – focus on the installation and the competency of the drilling contractor.

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    • 15
      Power corrupts - Absolute power .. says:

      Fcuk the LibLabCons/Ukip who love Fracking and anything else to proper up their financial portfolios at this nations expense.

      Someone ought to Frag the lot of ‘em.

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      • 20
        Greenpeace gorilla says:

        Yes let’s all freeze to death. So much more dignified.

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        • 64
          Linked in or drugged up? says:

          Is this you?

          Julian Gibb, JansomBay LTD, United Kingdom, Food & Beverages

          Julian Gibb’s Skills & Expertise

          Business Strategy
          Management
          Marketing Strategy
          New Business Development
          Sales Management
          Strategic Planning
          Business Development
          Business Planning
          FMCG
          Marketing Management
          Negotiation

          (Oh and oil and gas luminary part time)

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          • Julian Gibb says:

            You may find this hard to believe but we don’t all do facebook / twitter etc.
            I have an email account – that’s it!

            Not being in your search means I don’t exist? Interesting world you live in.
            You don’t even know which country I come from or live in.

            I have been offshore for 35 years in a senior position around the world and I really don’t care if you believe that or not.

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          • FFS says:

            We dont…

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          • Another FFS says:

            Camp boss is a senior offshore position too

            now do fock off

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          • Spartacus says:

            oh a 35 yr rig-pig with no design experience eh?

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          • The Growler says:

            I don’t know what all the fuss is about, Fawkesy has personally guaranteed that nothing will go wrong with that fracking thingy, trust him!

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    • 39
      Spartacus says:

      that is why the DCRegs are there dummy. see schedule 13. then take a look at oil and gas uk ‘advice’ – actually law by the back door

      you must have been a seismic interpreter for all those 35 years – certainly know little about actual drilling and completions – except hearsay and what the bbbc tell you

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      • 63
        jgm2 says:

        A seismic interpreter?

        Cruel.

        Nobody should have to spend their days following wiggles on a screen.

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    • 43
      Nermal says:

      Good point you forgot to mention that never let Halliburton do the cement job.

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    • 47
      Charlie says:

      Look at quality of contractors , only a few have problems. The same with water wells, a few fail. People ignore or do not know but above most of shale units in UK are plastic clay units.When drilling through plastic clay it heaves and forms seal against the casing. One of biggest problems in drilling in the UK are clay units which heave . A 50m thick unit of heaving clay is good seal , even without a grout seal.

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      • 79
        Well Examiner says:

        Clay, shale mudstone, isn’t that what you are looking for? Shale gas has a clue in the name.

        Microfissures which our luminary tells us are a bad thing. In 35 years in the Oil & Gas industry have you never drilled carbonates or carbonate reservoirs then?

        And show me the science to all this magic clay sealing before I sign off this uncemented casing programme . . .

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    • 52
      dai mining says:

      sounds right

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  8. 10
    Sue Denim says:

    Just imagine if GreenPeace had been around at the start of the Industrial Revolution.

    No coal mines, no railways, no iron and steel foundries.

    We’d still be living in mud huts.

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    • 17
      Greenpeace gorilla. says:

      What has the industrial revolution done for us?

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    • 19
      Geodesic hamlet says:

      Not a bad idea actually.

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    • 27
      Happy Abdul says:

      Give us a decade, infidel, and everyone will be back in mud huts under the glorious, perfect and merciful kaliphate that your government and BBC are so kindly determined to implement.

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    • 28
      Angry Leftie says:

      So they’d have gone backwards if GreenPeace had been around.

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    • 65
      jgm2 says:

      They were.

      They were called Luddites.

      These powered looms will put us all out of work. Will nobody think of the environment?

      The unions perform the same function today. All progress must be stopped so that the workforce is not inconvenienced by having to learn anything new.

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    • 69
      Julian Gibb says:

      Yes – 100 deaths through “tunnel sickness” to drive one tunnel under the Thames for the underground. 176 deaths building the Forth Rail Bridge. Workers handling deadly chemicals such as mercury. Miners dying of lung disease.Children operating deadly linen machinery because their fingers were nimble.

      Oh for the good old days!The joys of the late 19th. and early 20th. century

      Now back to sanity. Fracking can be safe providing the science becomes good engineering leading to a competent safe operation.It all goes wrong when the short cuts are indroduced to reduce costs and therefore increase profits. (Now we are back to the good old days of 100 plus years ago).

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      • 92
        cheche says:

        And thousands more died of starvation and disease in picturesque agricultural poverty

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      • 99
        M­a­­q­b­o­­ul says:

        Things going wrong do not increase profits as most companies are aware.

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        • 112
          Julian Gibb says:

          Yes – at the top

          Drilling has a very stratified sytem for a well operation. contractor with sub contractors.

          I draw your attention to a recent event in the gulf of Mexico with BP at the top of the tree / A drill rig contractor / a schumberger sub contractor – all the way down to an individual being self employed. An event can be driven by the profit motives of one person.
          When things go wrong it is often a real shock to the “Company Boss”. Hence my first comment on this article – Fracking is safe in principle but who is going to guarantee the quality and police the work.
          The expansion in a wellbore is significant – therefore the mechanical loads are a factor – add corrosion or a poor cement job and you have a major risk. Add to that picture opening and closing these wells over years and thermal expansion and shock (cyclic risk). All of this can be managed but if I lived above this reservoir or had a water well that came from a water table I would want some assurance from the operator and the government.

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          • Grean says:

            Exactly how many people draw their water from wells in the UK in 2014?

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          • Life isn't black or white says:

            I can see your point here Julian – Whilst a supporter of fracking as a potential way of extracting gas, only an idiot would accept that the technology is risk free. Every technology has associated risks to varying degrees – be it oil, gas, nuclear or wind. The challenge is managing those risk to ensure that the technology in question is delivered in a manner that is safe for workers, local communities and the environment. My step-father has worked in the offshore oil industry for 20 years. We have seen some of the associated risks to this industry in the terrible Piper Alpha disaster, gulf of mexico pollution and relatively regular helicopter crashes. Whilst we are reliant on oil (and I am in now way stupid enough to criticise the industry), we must recognise that there are dangers that need to be addressed. Addressing these dangers does not necessarily make people ‘eco-fascist tree huggers (although admittedly some are) – Rather, it makes these valuable industries safer for all involved.

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          • Employment Agency says:

            And exactly how many wells have you designed in your thirty five years?

            And how many of those were shale gas, and where in the world?

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          • Mycroft says:

            Not quite the proper picture.

            First the Well head is surrounded to below the water table and this is done on dry land, it is not like doing the same operation at sea.

            There is no potential for a vast amount of water (ie the Sea) to cause an unexpected and unnoticed wash-out.

            When/if a water aquifer is punctured the point of puncture and the point at which the drill punctures the underside of it is very accurately noted.

            A secondary sleeve is drilled down to those points that extends 100 ft below and right to the surface, so you have in the end a pipe within a pipe, if there is any failure the water in the aquifer will rise up the space between the two pipes when they pressurise even lightly, so you can see if you’ve cocked it up, the amount of water that will come up through that annulus will be huge and there is no facility to take that sort of quantity off-site, you have to start again, you can’t fudge it.

            If the annulus does not produce water then the aquifer is sealed, the annulus is then pumped dry and checked to be dry, it is then filled with a concrete composition to keep it that way.

            A further set of tests are made that check for a type of hydraulic heave, fail that and again you have to start again, no heave… and away you go.

            That is the reality.

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      • 159
        Tel E. Caster says:

        Are you saying that the Industrial Revolution should never have happened?

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    • 87
      Ashhole says:

      … and don’t forget that fire causes carbon dioxide so they are heading for something a bit less sophisticated than the stone age.

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  9. 11
    Drummond Base says:

    Whatever happened to “Go green, produce local”?

    What’s the betting Greenpeace are a front for Putin and other oil-exporting dictators? They’re hellbent on blocking us from producing our own gas and want us to keep importing it from dodgy nations where there’s zero environmental protection.

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    • 22
      Anonymous says:

      Ah Russia Smirnoff vodka in the UK £20 here in Vilamoura 11.75 euros for a Ltr how much tax do they need

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      • 41
        Vinse Kabal says:

        11.75 ? ah, an opportunity

        tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax,

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    • 124
      Dorkass says:

      If we can keep Putin sweet for a few years AND suffer winter blackouts over the same time frame, then after that we might have lots of shale gas from the USA, at prices they will love to charge. Who’s the Daddy?

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    • 130
      táxpáyér says:

      Probably Saudi funded now, they had to look for other sources when the USSR imploded (following the greens taxation policies and LOOK at all that pollution!)

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    • 146
      Quid pro Quo says:

      Well Putin did give those Greenpeace eco-terrorists an amnesty. They must have offered something in return.

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  10. 13
    Sir Crispin Slapentickell says:

    Greenpeace can fracking well frack off

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  11. 14
    Revelling in the joys of bumsex says:

    Just wait for the flashmob of “bumsexers” to turn up !

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  12. 18
    Nigel Farage says:

    Those UKuncut people are amazing.. No fear just fortitude and a belief in an alternative to cuts+austerity

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    • 30
      Neil "Brown Envelope" Hamilton says:

      Guido Fawkes,vodaphone, amazon, starbucks & the banks, everyone MUST show their disgust with them by boycotting the corporation’s who do not pay their fair share of tax , the government are in the pockets of these corporation’s, nothing will ever change unless we vote with our wallets.

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      • 33
        Socialism is theft says:

        Why not make a start yourself then and allow everyone else to choose what they wish to buy and who from? Too democratic for you?

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      • 40
        Socialism is theft says:

        It is EU law that has allowed all these corps to avoid paying tax quite legally. If you hate these laws then vote UKIP. It is the only way to stop them.

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      • 48
        SIZE 15 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

        Any corporation that pays more tax than it is legally obliged to would be stark raving mad, it’s first responsibility is to its shareholders and employees ,tax is another business cost like any other . If you love tax so much maybe we could make some arrangement with HMRC whereby you pay mine .

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      • 50
        M­a­­q­b­o­­ul says:

        Yup, Amazon can pay their corporation tax in the EU country of its choosing. That’s how it works.

        Their efficient tax avoidance measures is one of the reason they can sell cheaper than pretty much anyone else which is why I buy most of my kit off them.

        Boycott them? You must be fucking joking.

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        • 57
          SIZE 15 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

          They still won’t get it!!

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        • 58
          Cartel says:

          Amazon cheaper – you havin a fookin laff?

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          • SIZE 15 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

            What is a L A F F ?

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          • M­a­­q­b­o­­ul says:

            It is cheaper because of the huge range of sellers who also use Amazon. Not only is it cheaper, whatever you want is always available, you get ‘served’ immediately (no hanging around in the aisles looking for a shop assistant) and most often you can have it delivered the next day to your door.

            Guess you don’t buy much laffin boy.

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          • Cartel says:

            Just the basics, the rest of the consumer shite I can live without

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      • 56
        Anonymous says:

        What do you consider a ‘fair share’ of what someone else has earned that you want to take away from them?

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        • 59
          SIZE 15 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

          TAX not property is theft!

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        • 76
          M­a­­q­b­o­­ul says:

          In Victim Britain a “fair share” is 100% of other people’s wealth and 0% of one’s own.

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          • White Dee says:

            It’s moi roight innit?

            I’m entitled to it.

            Where’s my council ‘ouse? I’m depressed oi am. I can’t work. Where’s my disability allowance? Where’s my mobility car?

            It’s moi roight innit?

            Oi know moi roights.

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          • jgm2 says:

            And because we put up with this shit from the likes of White Dee and several million native English we then have to put up with the same shit when Labour import two million third worlders. Because if we don’t give them the same free stuff as the natives then it would be ‘racist’.

            I’d solve that in a fucking heart beat.

            They both be getting fuck all.

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          • Afroballs says:

            Big nice white titties that Dee – ripe man

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      I vote Vodafone says:

      Avoiding their fair share of tax or not, Vodafone will contribute vastly more to public funds in any given year than the assembled ranks of UK uncutters will in their entire lives. Most of the latter will spend their lives hoovering up public money in one form or another.

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      • 96
        Observer says:

        The little tax paid by Vodafone is refunded by GCHQ NSA in the form of ten of millions paid to intercept your phone calls and emails..

        But you are so dumb you think that is a good thing…

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  13. 32
    Le Petomane says:

    PIE and mushy peas. Broad beans and cauliflower for lift off.

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  14. 34
    Buzz_Orff says:

    The greens are a bit like bumble bees. There’s a part of them that appeal to your latent, higher sensibilities, but they act like real twerps, making you wonder if they have any reasoning neurons at all in their collective cerebella.

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  15. 35
    Cheers Gudio says:

    Thanks for telling me how to think about fracking in this article, I really really don’t need any of the facts. Just some jumped up Westminster Fanboy telling me how to think.

    Cheers

    BTW I happen to support fracking but dislike that like almost everything else no one is willing to look at a full factual basis for their arguments and beliefs.

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  16. 36
    Sunny Jim says:

    The great unwashed are at play again – I detest the likes of Greenpeace with a passion…

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  17. 37
    SIZE 15 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

    If greenpeace want to live in freezing mud huts eating lentils let them , we need the gas ,the oil and the coal ,get some concrete down, sod the environment!

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  18. 38
    Raving Loon says:

    We didn’t beat communism, the old Marxist-Leninists just went into the Green movement.

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  19. 42
    Tom Catesby says:

    One assumes that Cameroon will lead the way in the,’dash for gas’, as will Osborne, by not standing in the way of fracking exploration and extraction in their constituencies. The Oxfordshire/Bucks border area appears to be very rich in sources of natural gas. We can only hope that the’very rich’ like Cameroon will not adopt a ‘nimby’ attitude to fracking under and around their substantial properties, in the national interest.

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    Ohthisbloodypc says:

    I’d love to know the facts about fracking from an unbiased source.

    But there’s a discount system on sources of information.

    Anything from the BBC or Channel 4 is tainted by the fact that the narrators are trying to over compensate for their posh, private school backgrounds by being radical.

    On the other hand, I’m wary about taking people like Cameron and Osbourne at their word.

    I never trust anyone with a beard.

    Or anyone who pronounces research as “reee-search”. (It’s a symptom of someone who is easily led)

    I don’t trust lettuce leaf handsakers. Or macho hand crushers.

    Or anyone who wears a hi-viz jacket.

    Come on, who can I trust on this subject?

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    • 53
      SIZE 15 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

      The fact is we need the gas, tough luck on the greenies!

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      • 67
        fartknocker says:

        try eating more veggies

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      • 163
        A non says:

        We don’t need gas … we need energy. There is FREE energy available for all, but then how would Cameroon and his cronies make zillions? That is what we should be demanding … our right to free energy.

        So it goes like this, the big cheese at the fracking company set to make zillions, the same fracking company who admitted that fracking won’t reduce energy bills, is also the President of The Royal Academy of Engineering when it put out a report to government saying that fracking is perfectly safe. He also happens to have been the chief exec of BP (allegedly accused of diddling funds). The fracking guy also happens to big pals with our Dave and a member of ye olde House of Lords. In 2010 he was appointed as the Government’s Lead Non-Executive Director. Gosh I dunno, I just don’t trust the whole steaming pile of cr*p. Just a little too much vested interest there.

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    • 55
      Charlie says:

      Dr Dick Selley, ex Prof of Sedimentary Geology at Imperial.

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      • 101
        Well Examiner says:

        And Oil and Gas UK published – think it was last year, guidelines (= legislation by the back door) on Shale Gas Exploration. It is a free download from their site.

        BTW – The americans, or cowboys as they are known, have rather queered the pitch by burning down a few rigs by unsafe practices – see Bakersfield. So this geographical area of ‘expertise’ is a probably not a good starting point.

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    • 60
      All aboard the skylark says:

      Disappoints me that UKIP are pro-fracking. It seems they want the revenue in as much as the cnuts already in situ. No thanks.

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    • 148
      Mycroft says:

      The process for you.

      1/.Vertical bores are drilled in an isolated area to ascertain the depth of the shale play. At a depth of 5000 to 10,000 ft.

      2/. If they gain the right info a couple of vertical wells are drilled into the shale layer.

      3/. As they drill they widen the upper levels so as to place plain concrete (like house foundation C40) around it this will be 3 or 4 ft thick.

      4/. Note, the well head has to be provably watertight against ground water.

      5/.When this has cured, horizontal drilling commences at about 5000 to 10000ft.

      6/. When the well line has been drilled, Fracturing commences.

      7/. The fluid used is water mixed with Chemicals, they are the same as those used to release Plastic bottles from moulds that you get your Milk/Coke etc …

      8/. The chemical are ALL KNOWN and strictly adhered to, what is not known is the exact formula/composition of the fluid is, this is so the competition don’t get an upper hand, it’s NOT a secret list of chemicals, just they’re relationship to one another.

      9/. There is also sand, lots of it. plain sand, just graded to a certain size.

      10/. Fracturing happens when the water pressure in the drill pipe outlets along it’s length is sufficient to shatter the substrate, there are no holes in any vertical pipe, the pressure is raised incrementally. The gas is then retrieved because of it’s inherent lightness and the pressure the water has given it (shake coke bottle), it escapes past the water and is collected and tested then taken off site.

      There you go! Ten easy steps to understanding, been on sites when this has been done a few times now.

      If you any questions I will gladly answer them frankly and verifiably.

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    • 149
      Mycroft says:

      Additional points…

      If you live in a Village of about 2000 people you will likely have a small sewage works close to, the fracking site footprint will be no larger than that, you might though have two but they will be at least 3 miles apart.

      If you do get two, then remember that if you have water boreholes then you will have a water well pumping site and I doubt most of you will have noticed either of those ‘essential services’.

      The fracking will not, as the Water Boards do around here, empty or dry out the local streams, so in reality less of an impact than you already have to ‘endure’.

      Vehicles… our local sewage plant takes ‘stuff’ from local cesspits and the traffic to a fracking site will be less than anything that happens for the Sewage site, because after completion the odd transit to ensure good monitoring will be totally unnoticed… especially compared to the sewage wagons you endure at the moment.

      Finally… the Country is fed rubbish by a rubbish media, I know this as I am not in the Industry and decided to check out the situation for real as our area may well get a well and I wanted to know the actuality not someone else’s propaganda.

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  21. 49
    Anonymous says:

    An article that beautifully demonstrates your understanding of science is close to zero.

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  22. 70
    Fracking Hell! says:

    This country is doomed if Milishit gets in. We have already decided we aren’t waiting for call up to Socialist Summer Camp. My wife and will move abroad and stay abroad the exact hour if Milishit walks up to Number 10. He won’t even get key in door before we are on that ferry!

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  23. 72
    I'm an enviromentalist but Greenpeace call me a nimby says:

    Greenpeace are not as vocal about the above ground environmental damage building hundreds of thousands of new homes will do to the countryside.

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    • 75
      SIZE 15 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

      Because that is a by – product of mass immigration.

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    • 78
      UKIP Hacking at the roots with the truth says:

      Or the giant iron and concrete structures commonly known as green tax incentives.

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  24. 74
    Just saying, Dave says:

    Greenpeace – and other laughable left wing outfits – have substantial revenues that really do need taxing. And the beauty is they approve of taxation and so you should expect no resistance from them. Unless of course they turn out to be stereotypical left wing hypocrites.

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    • 132
      Fred the pensioner says:

      How much does the head honcho trouser per annum (before tax avoidance/evasion of course).

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  25. 77
    Lock up gamgster lawyers says:

    Queen’s speech contains legislation to use against those that help gangsters

    Does that mean that half of the City banksters’ solicitors will be locked up?

    And Murdoch’s solicitors?

    It would be about time…

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  26. 80
  27. 89

    Is it alright still to have a candle?

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    • 105
      Ecoist says:

      No, too much soot and CO2. If you want light you must attract glow worms towards you by singing Joni Mitchell and retaining your natural body scent by refraining from bathing.

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    • 121
      Barber Quartet says:

      Plus you may set the last remaining few hairs on your head you have left.

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  28. 90

    Vote UKIP :-D

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  29. 98
    Ex Tory voter says:

    Hug a husky Cameron being targeted by environmentalists after all the tongue up arse action he and his party have done to appease liberal lunacy.
    Never.
    Only a deaf dumb and blind man could have fucking predicted that.
    Meanwhile back in the real world real people have pissed off in droves to vote UKIP.

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  30. 106
    CastIronDave says:

    I am actually planning on having a mockup of HS2 ‘near’ my house.
    For those enthusiasts, its an LGB model, G-scale, approx 23 times smaller than the real train it represents. One can see its immediate effect on the landscape, and environment. Absolutely ZERO.

    Big win for the Real Tory Blues on Thurs.

    Tally Ho.

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  31. 107
    Anonymous says:

    “ standing in the way of the UK’s dash for gas…”?
    Or seeking to stop myopic morons from shooting themselves, and all our offspring, through the head. Fly fracking is a short term solution at best. Once exhausted, we’ll be constrained to go begging cap-in-hand for someone else’s functioning energy technology. Which itself could have provided the basis for a second industrial revolution. Plus we’ll have to clean up any and all mess, if that proves possible, left behind by the (bankster-style) carpetbaggers involved in this latest asset rip-off.
    According to this morning’s news: Kamikaze style compromised nuclear power plant safety measures have apparently arrived on our shores. Don’t we ever learn?

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    • 113
      FFS says:

      Shite bags who have more finanical portfolios than constituents, who short term money grabbing antics will f**k us all up.

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    • 123
      Grean says:

      someone else’s functioning energy technology.

      This would be what?

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  32. 108
    The slow one says:

    I don’t understand. If Greenpeace oppose fracking, why have they started fracking under the Prime Minister’s house?

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  33. 128
    Rip van Wrinkle says:

    I’d love to see how quickly you pro-frackers would change your mind when the drills are set up 200 yards down the road from your little pile.

    W*nkers.

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    • 137
      SIZE 15 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

      Rather a few drills than food banks and poverty,living in a damp unheated hut unable to cook a meal .
      But of course that is just what the ecoarseholes want!

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  34. 131
    Pub Landlord says:

    Look it’s worth supporting fracking simply because the loony left and ‘Green’ Marxists are opposed to it. Let’s get behind it!

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    • 160
      Face Stomping Chianti Socialists till I'm Knee Deep says:

      Throw in a few nuke stations too. Rub their noses in it.

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  35. 140

    he loved a good fracking during his Eton days

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  36. 155
    IPCC 'Scientist'/Green Nazi-Clocking-up nearly a million Air Miles telling people to stop pollution says:

    We should not Frack! We should not buy Russian Gas too! Let’s buy U.S. (Fracked) gas instead! Problem solved! Also, Population Control has NOTHING to do with Man-Made Climate change-and I’ve got a graph to prove it!

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  37. 158
    Displaced Brummie says:

    Greenpiss. Full of it since anyone can remember.

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  38. 165
    Anon says:

    Depressing. Can’t see how a quotation out of context in any way negates the point Greenpeace are making. The big problem is that we do have to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions.

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  39. 166
    Anonymous says:

    So diesel vans, HDPE hardhats, Polyester Hivis vest, Plastic signage and electrolysis extracted aluminium fencing.

    For a green organisation, they sure do use a lot of fossil fuel based/intensive products.

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    • 167
      Mycroft says:

      As a stout UKIP supporter I can’t make any issue of that fact, we use the EU money to try to bring down the EU, I can’t with ant degree of honesty then complain when they use what is available to smite us.

      But there is a question you can ask, it is a question that got me thrown out of (physically) a Greenpeace type meeting.

      I have changed it slightly for this situation.

      The question is:- “Regarding all those items you now find so readily to hand, what do you propose to replace them with after you stop the petro-chemical and energy intense industries that made them?”

      I am pleased to say that when I first asked my original version of this question and as the meaning sank in, the meeting became quieter and quieter, then erupted in quite a degree of vitriol.

      I’m no longer welcome to such meetings.

      Reality pulls people up rather sharpish.

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  40. 169
    Mark T says:

    So can I just check I have this right? When ‘scientists’ say there is global warming, anyone who isn’t a scientist is told to shut up and sit down by Greenpeace and to respect the wisdom of the experts, but when scientists say fracking is safe apparently Greenpeace says that these scientists don’t know what they are talking about.

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Mycroft says:

Have you read the last bit of Animal Farm?

You know where the animals are looking through the Farmhouse window?

My TV screen was that window at lunch-time today.

Be careful, the sudden self-congratulatory tone, the slightly pudgy outline of indulgence and you become exactly what you should despise.

The jolly face of the Quisling Cameron poses for your camera has mesmerised and deceived you, you who were once not so deceived.

You were no firebrand, you were a damp squib in my opinion, sorry.

You need a damned good kick up the ahse!


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