May 29th, 2014

Clegg Confirms Cable Didn’t Tell Him About Oakeshott Polls

Nick Clegg confirmed to LBC this morning that Cable failed to inform him about the secret Oakeshott polls, unconvincingly arguing that “I wouldn’t expect Vince to”.

Clegg says that as far as he is concerned Cable “was absolutely not aware of polls done elsewhere”. Which is the line that Cable is sticking to in China today. Though Oakeshott insists he told Cable about the four polls “several weeks ago”, around the time the pair met in open sight. The LibDem leader is being very trusting indeed…


90 Comments

  1. 1
    Ma­­qb­oul says:

    He’s just playing the brave little soldier.

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    • 7
      Rolf says:

      :)

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      • 80
        more Maggies please says:

        Why are you giving this story traction.

        Just let the Dems keep Clegg and then laugh your head off when they get 3 MPs this time next year.

        Keep feeding him bacon sandwiches to distract from the real issue.

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      • 84

        Did you think I would leave you “trying ”
        When there s room on my “horse ” for two ….

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    • 9
      Touchy Feely Rolf Harris says:

      Nickelarse and Vince are just like my two little boys. I’m so proud.

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    • 18
      Mycroft says:

      Like that… but the reality is that we are looking at a living embodiment of David Brent, nauseating and inept in equal measure.

      The man has been humiliated at the polls.

      He only has the brave little soldier ‘act’ left in his little box of masquerades.

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    • 23
      Nick says:

      I knew nothing about the p”edophiles at my prep school. I was very happy there and was the apple of everyone’s eye. Especially the staff.

      There is not explanation for the arson attack I later launched on an innocent European cactus plantation which in any way relates to my formative experiences. And there is nothing at all about my early career in Leon Brittan’s office which is connected to anything unsavoury of any kind. In fact, I know nothing of anything dodgy whatsoever, especially to do with s-e-x. Neither on my part or involving any of my colleagues. If I was told about it, i do not recall, though I would have taken it very very seriously if I had known.

      Cash for peerages? No idea what you are talking about.

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    • 30
      The Growler says:

      Cleggie has got to realise he is in politics, keep yours friends close but keep your enemies even closer. Both Liebore and the Conners are not above rounding on their leader and sinking there daggers in, even though they are just as culpable for any cockups as the leader, once the leader thinks like a dictator then is the time to act before he/she crosses the threshold. Who is more important the leader of a party or the political party, if the party relies on one person it is doomed to failure at some time or other, or the members of a party come from groups who come from bases of widely differing views.

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    • 48
      Cleggy says:

      He didn’t tell us about the true value of the Royal Mail either, silly old fool.

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      • 85

        DOCTOR STABLE SAYS

        Where or what is “Aresenal ”

        ( I know the Emirates are statelets in the Gulf of Oman now united by money and once known in Empire times as the Trucial States –see I ‘ m not totally stupid …. some things you DO learn at the D. Biz
        in Vic Street )

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    • 56
      pissed off voter says:

      Just like with Renard and Cyril Smith? Seems like noone in the libdem knows anything that’s happening in the libdems. that’s a recipe for disast – oh right!

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    • 88
      Anonymous says:

      I wonder whether Adolph Clegg is just going to let Von Stauffenberg Oakeshotte walk away whilst Vince “Desert Fox” Cable denies all knowledge. “Ve know nussink” “zer was no plot” “bomb, vot bomb? Zat was mine friend, he has gas!”.
      I foresee a visit to Herr Cable from Herr “Flic” Hughes. “Cyanide or else leadership of the Lib Dems – and don’t think of taking the easy way out, for you treason will be rewarded with the ultimate sanction….leadership! Onward and up!”.

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  2. 2
    John Tandy says:

    Well he would wouldn’t he ?

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  3. 3
    helpful hint to MPs says:

    Listen to the bloody voters.
    Then you don’t need polls.

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    • 22
      LIBABCON says:

      Voters? k?

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    • 53
      still walking into darkness says:

      Why is UKIP being branded as a far right party?, it’s much more middle ground if anything, pro liberty, pro free trade, pro controlled immigration

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      • 75
        James Naughtie says:

        Because they are rac1st, anti-immigrant, hate Europe (literally they hate the very rock of the western Eurasian tectonic plate), they appeal to stupid lower-class white trash, they are sinister and evil under the surface (and also on the surface), they are merely a temporary protest vote against the cost of credit crunch crisis.

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      • 83
        A vote for UKIP is a vote for sanity says:

        Accidentally caught the Corrupt News Network spouting this bollocks about UKIP supposedly being a far-right party just the other day.
        CNN is just another one of the world’s problems and should be avoided like the plague.

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    • 90
      Anonymous says:

      Don’t listen to the bloody voters!

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  4. 4
    Lib Dem Machine says:

    check out http://www.libdems.org.uk/lyingtwatsthelotofus for more information.

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  5. 5
    n says:

    vince vinces, so just make him.
    leg legs it so break his leg

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  6. 5
    Plea says:

    Can we stop focusing on trivia like LibDumbs and Ukrap?

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    • 17
      Anonymong says:

      Yes let’s go back to the Conservatives, specifically the now moribund ConHome, which Guido is doing his best to keep alive via daily links.

      I guess banning dissenters (literally banning anyone who disagrees with them from commenting), removing feedback mechanisms and denying the very existence of a certain emerging party are not such a sure fire recipe for success on a Tory blog site.

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      • 25
        UKIP: Hacking at the roots with the truth says:

        This is the difference. Fluffy, nebulous and vague, or definite and actual.

        Milliband:
        “We need a better Britain”
        “A duty to leave the world a better place than we found it”
        “One Nation”

        Cameron:
        “I want to build a better future for Britain”
        “Securing Britain’s Future”
        “Big Society”

        Clegg:
        “Better together”
        “Stronger economy, fairer society”

        Farage:
        “A vote for UKIP is a vote to leave the EU and recover power over our national life.”
        “Scrap HS2, all green taxes and wind turbine subsidies.”

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      • 37
        The Growler says:

        “on a Tory blog site” have you made a spelling mistake in that word before “site”

        Liked by 1 person

  7. 8
    Disgruntled Tory says:

    Sorry to be very boring but what happens when the Lib Dems get annihilated and down the line Ukip’s star descends. Are we moving to a 2 party state like back in the late 1920’s and early 30’s, moving through the post war consensus etc. Clegg has destroyed all chance of a Whig – Tory coalition for at least a couple of generations and likely longer. The man’s a total Juan Quer and if the Libs don’t take him out, we’ll all inevitably suffer as the Socialists prosper. This isn’t funny and shouldn’t be viewed as such.

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    • 13
      i think says:

      UKIP’s star is in the ascendance.

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      • 46
        The Growler says:

        Ukip’s growing strength is also its weakness, they have taken votes from LibsLabsConners in fairly even proportions of their former voters (that is the electors), eventually those different factions will start squabbling among each other ie rabid righties against rabid lefties.

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        • 55
          Socialism is theft says:

          They won’t squabble any more than the Tories do now – or Labour. Or even Lib Dems, although as they have only one MEP probably there isn’t quite much squabbling in Brussels.

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          • The Growler says:

            Liebore had always been more or less consisting of two factions the hard left and the Democrats of which a few left to form the social democrats. The Conners are also consisting of two parties the “wets” and the “Thatcherites”, the “wets” continually attacked by the “Thatcherites” and Dave is trying to be all things to all sections of his party.

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    • 21
      Anonymong says:

      Where do you think all the disillusioned Labour votes will be going after they win in 2015. The tories? Nope, but they could head to UKIP.

      Both the cons and labour have crucial decisions to make in the next decade. If the cons pick the wrong replacement for dave they could go the way of the dodo. If Labour can’t move beyond its ever dwindling number of client groups the same could apply there.

      2020’s election landscape may be unrecognisable from today’s.

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      • 31
        Disgruntled Tory says:

        Yeah, thinking post referendum (assuming we get one) so 2025 onwards, really. Just sayin’ – Clegg’s uselessness may have side effects that aren’t so funny.

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      • 66
        Tom Catesby says:

        2020 will be too late.

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  8. 10
    Hatethelotofthem says:

    Poor old hapless Cleggy looks so naive. Uncle Vince’s dabs are clearly all over this plot and his massive error is trusting his huge mate, Matthew who is one of the nastiest pieces of work to have ever graced the Square Mile.

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    • 87
      The Lying Dutchman says:

      It is astonishing. All that lies ahead of the Lib Dims is a right royal kicking at the next election. Yet they sleepwalk toward disaster, clutching at the idea they reduced the belting given out by the Tories to the Great Unwashed.
      Leaders’ Debates pre-GE will show that there is no future coalition with the Tories and no job for Clag with Labour and both will say amusing and nasty things about “Special Needs” Nick and his stupid little party.

      Should be fun viewing. ***

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  9. 11
    East India Company Wallah says:

    Goodbye Nick
    By the way you’re a spineless treacherous little pooh whose absence will be much admired

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  10. 12
    Ffyon says:

    Has anyone seen my Willy?

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    • 57
      The Growler says:

      Nope, you don’t seem to be in the limelight these days, by the the way you said “little Willy”

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  11. 14
    St Vince Of Cable says:

    The ECB has bought Europe a lot of time with its threats to do “whatever it takes” to save the euro. The hope now seems to be that with growth returning, unemployment will fall and countries will be able to pay off their debts.

    Trouble is, growth is nowhere near strong enough to make that happen. Eurozone-wide growth hit just 0.2% in the first quarter of this year. And that was mainly down to Germany.

    France didn’t grow at all. Italy, Holland and Portugal’s economies all shrank.

    The latest survey data tells a similar story. The overall purchasing managers’ index for the eurozone as a whole suggests moderate growth. But again, it’s largely down to strength in Germany. In France, the surveys imply that activity is weakening.

    One lingering problem is the European banking system. There are fears that many institutions are hiding the fact that they are either bust, or close to it. The ECB has tried to fix this by carrying out a series of ‘stress tests’, designed to make sure that the banks can remain solvent under a series of gruelling economic conditions.

    However, until now at least, it has been too easy to pass the tests. There have been several cases where banks got a clean bill of health, only to fold shortly afterwards.

    And as Tom Walker of Martin Currie Global Portfolio Trust points out, if you compare US banks to European banks, you get a much better idea of just how much rubbish could still be sitting on European balance sheets.

    In total, US banks have written down 16% of their pre-crash assets. In other words, they’ve accepted that the value of the stuff sitting on their books is nearly a fifth less than it was before 2008. European banks have only written down 6%.

    Given that many European banks (especially those in Germany) were among the most enthusiastic buyers of junk like subprime, this suggests that they are still sitting on a mountain of dodgy assets that they are failing to disclose.

    This might not matter while investor exuberance is driving demand for even the dodgiest assets higher. But if sentiment changes suddenly, then those banks could be in serious trouble. So the ECB is running yet another round of tests, with the results expected in October (this is the ‘asset quality review’, or AQR).

    The trouble is, while we might get a better picture of the state of the banks, it’s also going to hold any recovery back. You see, if the banks are worried about having to raise more capital and write down more debt, then the last thing they want to do is lend more money to businesses and consumers.

    Already, lending to firms is 3% down on the same time last year, while household borrowing is only up by 0.4%.

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    • 33
      Nick Clegg says:

      I agree with Vince,well I would,wouldn’t I ?

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    • 67
      The Growler says:

      Continental Europe is following about 3/ 4 years behind the UK but it is interesting that the UK has been through about 4 depressions since 1977 remember the “sick man of Europe jibe ” our continental friends used to quote. The UK’s recovery is very tenuous even now, Gideon is using the housing thing to drive the economy for the GE then he hopes he can slam the door before the economy goes into reverse.

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  12. 15
    A flower that blooms tra la la says:

    If it keeps the media snapping at Cloggs heel’s who cares, if they manage to take a bite out of his ar$e, how interesting, not , he and his mates deserve all the media attention they get.

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  13. 16
    did I hear correctly says:

    Clegg praised Huhne in that LBC interview.

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    • 20
      Lord Huhne of Bearded Clam says:

      I’d be happy to return! I know my Country needs me, I’ve paid my debt, alright I did use your money and I still have the iPad. But trust me I know the way forward!

      Yours Lovingly,

      Chris.

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  14. 19
    Anonymous says:

    “Clegg says that as far as he is concerned Cable “was absolutely not aware of polls”
    Well I’m convinced. Given Nick’s own complete disconnect, not to say disinterest, with what the common people (nee voters) think about anything.

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    • 26
      Can't remember who I am says:

      That’s as well as not being aware of how much the Royal mail was worth…

      He’s not aware of much is, old charming Vince.

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    • 28
      Anonymong says:

      Yeah he’s convinced me too. Clegg never breaks a promise, never tells a lie.

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    • 43
      Owen's Remedial English teacher says:

      DisconnectION

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    • 74
      The Growler says:

      “common people” those say all, trouble that is the with Cams and Gideon, Mili and Balls , all to seem to have that problem, must the rarified atmosphere in Westminster

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  15. 27
    Anonymous says:

    So just to sum up, who really cares about the libdem internecine wars? This country doesn’t have the luxury to give a toss about them, when there are much bigger issues confronting our country.
    Like us just being a state ( just lik a parish council) within the a united states of europe, headed by the Germans and other EU tossers who bits have never hard of.
    Perhaps Cameron can tell us why, even hough there are hundreds of immigrants at call is, who have fortunately already made it to the EU, but they still want to come to England. I think we already know why, but not why successive governments have never tackled this issue.

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    • 35
      Disgruntled Tory says:

      Totally agree – and that’s why the Ukip disintegration that all the Westminster chappies are wibbling on about won’t happen prior to the next general election. Crikey – I used to work for the Tories oop north and worked bloody hard and yet the thought of voting for the MP I helped get elected fills me with contempt. I don’t give a stuff if it’s a wasted vote – couldn’t care less.

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      • 65
        Tom Catesby says:

        Wasting votes? I’ll ‘waste’ mine again voting UKIP instead of wasting it voting Con libliebore. Turkeys shouldn’t vote for Christmas.

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  16. 32
    Lord Oakshit says:

    I THOUGHT I’D JUST SPEND A TRIFLING TWENTY GRAND ON COMMISSIONING THESE POLLS…

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    • 63
      Owen's Remedial Eng Lit teacher says:

      Lazy pseud wanker journo.
      Lady Macbeth to his dithering Macbeth would be more apt, or Cassius to his Brutus, or Aaron to his Tamora: now that I’d like to see.

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  17. 34
    You couldn't make it up says:

    Unfuckingbelievable.

    With both the AQA and OCR exam boards having revealed their selections, the authors of the new classic exam texts for teenagers are emerging. It won’t be Thomas Hardy, Graham Greene, Evelyn Waugh or JD Salinger, but instead Meera Syal’s Anita and Me appears on both lists

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    • 36
      You couldn't make it up says:

      Forget it. This country’s finished. I’m packing my bags and leaving ASAP. There is no hope left for the future of Britain.

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    • 45
      Michael "U-turn" Gove says:

      It will be probably be Maya Angelou next year.

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      • 68
        Owen's Remedial Eng Lit teacher says:

        Well she was “a friend of Nelson Mandela”, you know. Grew up together in Guyana fighting the evil British Raj.

        I’d not heard of her. Perhaps she was a wonderful woman, but let those who loved her mourn in peace, please, Beeb.

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    • 89
      Anonymous says:

      It is truly remarkable the power of persuasion of a couple of psychotic sadists with a pair of pliars. Gove had nothing to do with this, he said he wouldn’t interfere with syllabi, didn’t he. Well, same old story…some bugger interfered and somebody agreed.
      Chilcott…”they all lied like troopers”.

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  18. 38
    It's the way he tells 'em says:

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    • 61
      Tom Catesby says:

      To be fair, he does seem to handle a bacon butty better than Millgeek.

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      • 70
        Owen's Remedial Domestic Science teacher says:

        He only had one bite of a non-crusted quartered sliced-white.

        Milimong took on a whole bap!

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  19. 41
    nell says:

    What I find so amusing is that the libdems would replace cleggie with bumbling vince in the belief that he’d win them more votes!!

    Talk about blind deaf and dumb!!

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  20. 42
    Vincent Cable says:

    I am the Death Wish Beetle.

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  21. 44
    Dave H. says:

    Coincidentally my earpiece just got tangled in the power lead. I thought:
    “Fucking Cables”

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  22. 49
    Tom Catesby says:

    ‘Nick is being very trusting indeed’… Really? could Cleggie’s remarks on the Liberal Broadcasting Service, just be a means of keeping the limpdick ship afloat? Clegg will be aware of the treachery of some of those around him. Now the present coup has been foiled at least for the time being. Clegg, will desperately, wish to maintain a public face of party unity.

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  23. 50
    Lord Oakeinownfootshot says:

    You can trust me, eh Vince?

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  24. 51
    United, together, we'll never be defeated says:

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    • 60
      Socialism is theft says:

      Join a union and lose your job to another person in a company in a foreign country.

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      • 71
        Fred the pensioner says:

        … and if you don’t want to pay more, then don’t join any union – and save the subs for next year’s holiday in the sun.

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        • 82
          stench says:

          Want more pay then join a union.
          Well it worked for Len McCluskey on
          over £120,000pa.

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  25. 58
    Anne Robinson says:

    We don’t want you…so, Goodbye!

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  26. 62
    Maimed Codger says:

    Damnation, I have just broken something in a Bacon Sanger….

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  27. 69
    Irritable Sod says:

    Poor old Chris Huhne…. all this scheming etc going on and he’s not involved….. he must be frothing at the mouth. If only….

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  28. 76
    I believe in Santa Claus says:

    Sorry Nick and Vince. Neither credible nor unbelievable.

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  29. 78
    Long John Silver' s parrot says:

    The facts are simple.

    Nick Clegg went head to head in Public debates with Nigel Farage.

    During the campaign the Press did their best to undermine Farage who at one stage was physically attacked.

    The results of the Election mean that Nigel Farage has twenty odd MPs in Europe and Nick Clegg has …………one.

    Which of these two men should be moving on I ask myself.

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  30. 81
    Adolph Hitler. Friends call me Vince says:

    “The Deputy Fhurer, Rudolph Hess, has done something unknown to me.
    He has flown to Scotland who UKIP fucked up the other day.
    From this day forth, he is considered mental.
    Seig Heil”

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