May 9th, 2014

Labour’s VAT Bombshell Blows Up in Their Face

Another day and another Labour attack on Clegg. This time they are linking the Deputy Prime Minister to the VAT rise. Only one small problem: almost all of the products they have featured to explain how “they have put £450 extra VAT on your shopping bill” are charged VAT at a rate of 0%. As the taxman says “most food of a kind used for human consumption is zero-rated”. If your shopping bill has gone up it’s not because of tax on fruit and veg. Chalk that up as another attack success. 


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  1. 1
    First time for ages BBC viewer says:

    Posted on previous thread in error

    The Hills are alive with the sound of UKIP !

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    • 20
      Nigel Farage says:

      Chuka. You are pig ignorant.

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      • 94
        The President of North Korea says:

        Diane Abbott looks like a wicked, black monkey, with flared nostrils and hairy ears.

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        • 101
          True Brit says:

          Ugly, racist comment. Should be deleted. And dont moan about free speech either….

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          • jeremy clarkson says:

            can’t see a problem with it?

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          • Whoosh! Straight over his head! says:

            Read the poster’s name, then go read today’s news, then go read the dictionary definition of comedic irony, then apologise for being a self-righteous prick, who knee-jerks to pavlovian stimuli in just the way he has been trained. Cock.

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          • Tony Blair - Everyday I'm Hustling says:

            People said my friend George W. looked like a monkey.

            Was that racist?

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        • 219
          Anonymous says:

          And that’s just her arse – ask Portillo

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      • 131
        The Public says:

        Where did Chukas money come from ,it wouldn’t have been from his Nigerian family would it.

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        • 154
          aye cannot believe it says:

          Nigerian lottery winnings, 100% risky free all you need do is pay uncle Chukka £5000 to release the funds, then we can wire you the monies directly

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    • 24
      Peter Grimes says:

      SFA!!

      But we knew that from their mismanagement of the economy 1997-2010.

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      • 44
        Spartacus says:

        the previous name was Luxury Tax before the common market renamed it vat – tva in France

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        • 51
          The Bastard EU says:

          AND turned it from a luxury tax into a purchase tax.

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          • The Loser Party says:

            Labour – pushing back the boundaries of incompetence.

            You’ve got to wonder who their campaign manager is really working for? ‘Cos is sure as sh!t ain’t Labour.

            Is he Labour’s Michael Howard or Michael Foot?
            h**p://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/robertcolvile/100270001/ed-miliband-isnt-the-new-michael-foot-hes-the-new-michael-howard/

            h**p://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/2449/Voting-Intentions-in-Great-Britain-19761987.aspx?

            h**p://yougov.co.uk/news/2012/01/09/ed-lessons-history/

            He seems to be somewhere inbetween… not as unpopular as Foot became, but heading that way

            Labour on this form are heading for sub-30% – the stuff that exam essay questions are made of.

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    • 68
      The Growler says:

      Liebore and the Cons are like two ends of a pencil unsharpened at both ends, why aren’t they attacking UKip their strongest opposition, they are attacking the weakest party, they are not even sharp pencils. The LibDems apart from their strongest constituencies are losers at present so why on earth do the two biggest parties still keep attacking them, the protest party is UKip, the LimpDems should never have gone in with the Cons, they are now tainted with that relationship, they have lost the name “party of protest” now held by UKip, a lot of people will vote UKip, even they have to hold their noses just to give the self satisfied big party leaders a very bloody nose, I will probably vote UKip in the Euros and the council elections, I will then see what the major parties perform up to the GE before I decide.

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      • 103
        Village Idiot says:

        ….You have had the chance to assess the politics of the various parties for years,look at the history,look around,the evidence is all around,look at their records,the way they treat people,their handling of the public services,their immigration and economic policies,their slavish addiction to the EU giving us lazy politicians who just go out getting photo ops,not doing anything to benefit Britain,or its people!..Enough of the same old,same old,time for a fresh start,new blood and a rocket up the mendacious,self serving incompetent political elite!
        For the first time we have a non racist ,anti EU party to vote for,so it is a start!

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      • 159
        Lezzer on Benefit says:

        It is precisely because the Lib Dems are fading that Tory and Labour vultures see disaffected Lib Dims as the key to a slim overall majority at the GE. Elections are usually won by the capture of relatively few “floaters”.

        You are right, Limp Dims should have forced the Tories to be a minority Government, They are now in a Tory death grip. General Election leaders TV debates (if there are any) will be fun for us and misery for the Lib Dumbs. “What are you promising to do after the election, Nick? No,no, what are you really going to do?”

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        • 167
          jgm2 says:

          The Lib Dems suffered the same fate in Fucking Scotland. Propped up Labour for one or two parliaments and then got slung out as their voters got fed up with the lot of them and voted for the-non-racist,-oh-fuck-no,-not-us, SNP.

          History is just repeating itself south of the border. Good. Fuck the lot of them.

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      • 218
        Four Weddings and a Phone Tap says:

        if you need more time to decide, you’ve fallen for the brainwashing. none of the established parties have your interest as their focus (hence you’re voting Ukip in the euros and counties)

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  2. 2
    Cinna says:

    Shows you just how much the Labour party know about home economics and finance in general.

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    • 16
      Tony E says:

      That’s not the point – it’s a core vote strategy. Anti Tory propaganda no longer has to be true, they just have to shout it loud enough to their core vote (i.e. the 35% that don’t have a clue what tax is raised on what).

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      • 39
        Ooh, look I drink that, they must mean me says:

        And by the inclusion of big bottles of sugar cola, they are aiming directly at them.

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        • 135
          Anonymous says:

          Ah yes, the fizzy drinks and stacked burgers (or are those biscuits?) and booze in the background. The kind of unhealthy things Ed said just the other week Labour wants to make more expensive so the plebs eat and drink less of them? Ah yes, the kind of joined up thinking we can expect from Ed. He is after all the most ‘intellectually confident’ party leader. Doesn’t make him any less of a f**wit though.

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          • jgm2 says:

            If the Tories had included such items in a poster designed to appeal to the working class then Labour would be all over them for being condescending. Just as they were with the beer and bingo.

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      • 70
        Apthorpe says:

        True as most of that 35% Labour vote don’t actually pay tax, most are on bennies and the rest will have an off shore trust to avoid it. In a perverse way it would be good for Labour to get in power if only to finally break their own core vote. Millibean is the worst leader in waiting they have ever had (he would be worse than Brown in that Brown worked to his own albeit mad logic) Millibean just follows the latest trend and what his team tell him. He has no element of conviction about him whatever.

        Vote UKIP in May and upse the whole rotten LibLabCon lot best fun you’ll have for a while to see them running around looking more cluless than ever. And you keep the pressure on Dave the Heathite!

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    • 17
      Harbottle says:

      They are not as ignorant as all that-it’s just that they lie, lie and lie some more.

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      • 78
        The Growler says:

        They are politicians, that is what they do, folks know what has gone up and how much things cost in their weekly shopping, maybe Dave probably hasn’t really got the foggiest a lot of MPs for that matter have no idea as they live in a wonderful Westminster bubble where everything is subsidised.

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      • 132
        Old Blue Eyes says:

        I quite agree, they have put that out knowing it represents a falsehood. They know that the people most likely to vote Labour don’t realize that there is no VAT on food.

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        • 174
          jgm2 says:

          There is VAT on the food that Labour voters buy. Oven-ready meals. Cook from frozen pizza. Fizzy pop. Sunny Delight, etc etc.

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    • 18
      Don't call me Shirley says:

      Surely someone could report this to the ASA?

      Don’t adverts have to be “legal, decent, honest and truthful”?

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      • 170
        Sum Yeung Gai says:

        Try getting the ASA to understand that Meat free chicken pieces is wrong and then you might be on a winner….. But don’t hold your breath!

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      • 210
        Jack Ketch says:

        The Chairman of the ASA is none other than HIV positive “gay blade” “Lord” Chris Smith who has done so much for the inhabitants and farmers of the Somerset levels. When the Coalition for marriage attempted to run a series of ads objecting to “gay” marriage, he personally intervened to ban such ads as they “may be offensive to homosexuals”–so, pretty independent, then.

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    • 26
      Brain Axelrod says:

      er, someone explain different Vat rates to me please?

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      • 33
        Karl Schennedy says:

        I prefer the 69. It’s the same no matter which way up the floor is.

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      • 40
        Bosun Higgs says:

        It’s like your Sales Tax, old bean, only at three times the rate and on nearly everything.

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    • 34
      jgm2 says:

      Labour plankton don’t need to know the truth. They just need to have their prejudices massaged with lies. It’s probably all Fatcha’s fault anyway.

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      • 141
        jam2 says:

        9months before:
        plug yourself to the wall.
        plug yourself to the wall socket.
        plug your device to the wall socket.
        The wall socket is the global energy supply source.
        use a short extension cable….and dance to the music of time.
        .
        u grss
        u gess
        j esus
        to be out of sync with time , get away from the wall.

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    • 37
      Bosun Higgs says:

      Still, it’s perfectly true that they put VAT up on a range of essentials like clothes, furniture and communications. It was a destructive thing to do in a recession and the alternative, spending less, didn’t appeal to them.

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      • 49
        Spartacus says:

        george kynock put vat on electricity and fuel. he had the coldest place in his constituency – and one term in government.

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      • 75
        Apthorpe says:

        Correct VAT is terrible tax that hurts small – medium business more than any other. That a Conservative Party should rather raise a tax than cut spending tells you all you need to know about Dave the Heathite and his understanding of Conservative values.

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        • 88
          The Growler says:

          It’s Geedes favourite tax as he stated on this blog, he prefers it to income tax, tax spending not income.

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          • Twampersand mk II says:

            VAT is a tax on turnover. As most people who pay tax on their income do so through the PAYE system, they don’t see this.

            People who pay through PAYE see income tax as a number on a payslip. They bitch and moan, quite rightly, but vainly imagine that if tax were zero percent that their wages would increase by the same amount they lose in tax, instead of realising that they are paid, after tax, the very least that the employer can get away with, and if they were relieved of the burden of income tax it would be their employer who profited, not themselves. There would be exceptions, obviously, but can anybody really say that they could envisage TESCO saying to their staff ‘You, yes you there, stacking the shelves with halal muck and poor quality, imported tat, the Gov have abolished income tax and NI (which is income tax too), so we have decided to give a de facto 35% pay increase by allowing you to keep it.’ Not a likely scenario.

            If people had to write a cheque for taxes, VAT, Income, NI, doesn’t matter which, for monies they already held from payment received for services already rendered, to actually hold the money and then see it disappear, and you a mere unpaid tax collector, well, I’d give the Gov and this system less than a year.

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          • M­a­qboul says:

            That’s where the free market comes into play. An employer is not a charity won’t hand over a windfall unless one of his competitors decides he can poach the better workers with increased pay. Tescos may not be the best example because any uneducated c­unt can stack shelves (and the supply of them is virtually unlimited) but where employers are competing for skills then they would pay up because they would be able.

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          • Twampersand mk II says:

            You’d be the first to moan if you went to Tesco’s and the shelves were bare, because ‘uneducated Hunts’ had not stacked them for you.

            Employers are largely responsible for de-skilling every possible aspect of every possible job, in order to pay their staff less and employ fewer of them, and people like you clap and cheer, because they haven’t done it to you. Yet.

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        • 126
          The Loser Party says:

          No, VAT is good as long as corporate and income tax is reduced to negligible levels.

          The good thing about VAT is that you as the consumer (and businesses are also consumers) can choose how much they contribute in tax, and are less held to ransom / threats from the state to fund left-wing bolox they don’t agree with.

          Superlow corporate tax could help transform the UK to the most dynamic and productive in Europe; superlow income tax similarly could increase consumer spending and also help business growth.

          This is what real “right wing” economics is, and you won’t find any of it in the so-called Tory Party – they are as left-wing as Labour.

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          • Twampersand mk II says:

            Vat is not a good thing. Taking money, by force, from a person already mugged a dozen different ways by other taxes, is not, by any definition, a ‘good thing’. It’s theft.

            Tell you what, you love it so much, you pay mine.

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    • 53
      nell says:

      +1000

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    • 196
      Peter Martin says:

      First that PPB and now this?

      Who on earth is signing off on these efforts?

      If it’s anyone with the slimmest chance of getting into power, heaven help us.

      And if it’s not… not sure pulling a ‘not in the room’ really helps reassure either.

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    Ed Millibandwagon says:

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      Piss-poor Comedian says:

      Funny thing, this was being reported on the World Service news in the early hours but seems to have dropped off Radio 4′s bulletins.

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      • 48
        BBC News and Propaganda Unit says:

        We’ll never broadcast anything that shows Labour in a bad light.
        Now shut up and hand over your telly tax.

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          still walking into darkness says:

          the QT audience last night was as blatant as usual. UKIP at 35% in the polls, certainly didn’t register that on the clapometer. Chukka, Shapps, that shocking hag from the Greens and surely she should be dead by now Williams were all allowed to talk over Nigel and were allotted far more time. Plus a couple of obvious audience plants. Total disgrace but why am I not surprised. Chukka fell into the usual trap of saying,’yes we should really debate the EU’, go on then matey if you think you can. I think I heard the word ‘Euracist’ at one point, ‘isolationist’ is the new current buzz phrase replacing ‘scaremongering’

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          • The Loser Party says:

            …but this is why Nigel goes on there… it only helps him look more like the victim of the establishment bullies, and make the establishment voters more complacent, and the ukip voters more determined.

            If they really wanted to wipe out UKIP, they would offer them a seat at the table, or form a coalition with them – what what happens to the LibDems over the next few years… they are about to face at least 7 years in the wilderness.

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          • No 6 says:

            You just knew that the yelping, hooting, useful idiots planted in the QT audience would greet Farage will howls of execration – with the unintended consequence of garnering UKIP more support.

            Good.

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          • Lezzer on Benefit says:

            Last night’s QT definitly had a “get Nigel” theme. The main question aimed at Nigel took an unheard of three quarters of an hour, ending with a plant declaring, “I have no time for you”. Those around him at the back clapped furiously.

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          • Anonymous says:

            “Euracist” was put forward by Barbara Roche in the Guardian earlier this week or late last week and most people took the piss out of it.

            Anyone using that term is an SWP/UAF drone, and probably a paid one at that.

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  4. 4
    Four-eyed English Genius says:

    But the idiots that this propaganda is aimed at will not know the difference.

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  5. 5
    Jim says:

    Their supporters will still think it a valid advert. It is Spin not the truth that matters to them.

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      The Loser Party says:

      True enough… I wonder, is it legal to put a political poster up with, for example “The X Party, p@edophiles?”

      I mean, that’s where we’re heading with this…

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    • 189
      The two Muppets says:

      Yes ,do not forget that the average Labour voter is as thick as two short planks .

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  6. 6
    Ed Moribund says:

    Most of the vegetables in the making of that advert were behind the camera, not in front of it.

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  7. 7
    Harlem Shaqir says:

    “they have put £450 extra VAT on your shopping bill”

    Only if you’re a Labour champagne-swiller or union baron in the market for a case of champagne.

    What a bunch of pillocks. No wonder they ran the economy into the ground, they can’t even get their facts straight on food shopping.

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  8. 9
    Nasal Ed says:

    Are the Tories paying for Axelrod? They should be

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  9. 10
    Champagne Socialist. says:

    What are you talking about Guido? VAT is charged on champagne !

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    • 19
      Livin' it up says:

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        M­a­qboul says:

        She’s the stuff politicians are made out of.

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        • 45
          Pookie Snackumberger says:

          Yes, about a dozen, I reckon.

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        • 46
          Anonymous says:

          I wonder which party she supports..

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          • Twampersand mk II says:

            It’s difficult to tell, because she has been proven to tell lies about it when asked previously.

            Almost certainly one of those simpleton twats that votes Labour but couldn’t give a single, coherent argument why, else one of the other sort of twats that don’t vote, not because they have realised the futility of the current party system, but because they can’t be arsed.

            People like her should have all benefits stopped immediately. If she starved to death she would finally be making a useful contribution to humanity, in her case though, starvation may take a few months.

            What’s the betting she comes back from Magaluf poxed-up. Miguel’s not fussy, you know.

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          • Benny Fitz-Clements says:

            @4m 55sec. ‘ Voted Labour last time….. but you can win me over, Mr. Clegg’…

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  10. 11
    Steve Miliband says:

    £450 in one shop? In a month, a year? Since 2010? I think we need to be told.

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  11. 12
    Not so out of touch ! says:

    We know that Labour want to lower VAT and introduce a new 10% tax to tax the poor !

    It’s labour who want to TAX the power.

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  12. 13
    oh dear says:

    Pitiful.
    Labour are totally incapable of getting even basic facts right.

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    • 20
      couldabin says:

      First. Who’s creating this stuff? The no-salary intern on a zero hours contract?
      Second. Doesn’t anyone bother to check it before publication?
      And they wonder why they have no credibility except with those who don’t have the brain power to work it out.

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  13. 14
    John Moss says:

    Would have to buy £21,600 worth of goods with VAT charged at 20% to pay “extra” £450. More Ballsonomics!

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  14. 15
    Oh dear! says:

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      Is Shapps the best that the Tories have got? says:

      Quite. Shapps was reduced to weeble weeble pencil in ears by farage. A sight to behold.

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  15. 22
    Winston says:

    VAT is an EU tax. We follow EU directives. Vote UKIP.

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    • 36
      Guffaws says:

      Will UKIP scrap VAT?

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      • 41
        C O (Ξ7s1) says:

        Would be good to see if they will reduce it below 20%, and expand the number of goods and services which can be zero rated.

        The current level is set by the EU – as part of their harmonization b/s – as is the restriction on not being able to exempt goods and services once they have been designated as being standard rated.

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        • 108
          Small Business says:

          VAT should be no higher than 10%.

          The effect of lowering VAT will be electricfying. Many small businesses are sitting on cash they dare not spend because they are petrified of falling foul of the brutual VAT regime. Free that money up to be used as proper working capital and the economy will find another gear entirely.

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          • Spartacus says:

            with all this printing funny money why not go the whole hog and make it zero pct vat?

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          • Vance Kable says:

            tax, tax, tax, tax, tax

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          • C O (Ξ7s1) says:

            Balancing VAT with Corporation Tax more sensibly would help business.

            Keeping these two rates equal is what stops small business from either sitting on cash (preferring to pay out to owners through dividends) or investing in capital as a result of VAT penalties.

            In the current economic cycle it would be smart to lower VAT to at most 15% and encourage small business to invest as a result.

            This would likely increase overall tax revenues as a result of the increased economic activity which would be stimulated.

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      • 83
        M­a­qboul says:

        Given that they take half what you earn it’s real brass neck to be taking a sixth of what you are spending from what’s left.

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      • 91
        Winston says:

        Not sure, but they will stop the EU’s plan to add VAT to food and children’s clothes to harmonise VAT across Europe.

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    The_Prince_of_Foul_Breath says:

    Ornamental vegetables do pay VAT, if they are grown for their appearance; though edible they are not normally consumed.
    Those two peas in the foreground look very vain and orna-Mental to me.

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    Nigel the elite slayer. says:

    Never seen the like of it before. Nigel Farage owned BBC QT last night.

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  18. 27
    In the immortal words says:

    of the Gogglebox viewer

    “The Labour Party….they must think we’re donkeys”

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    tories are cunts says:

    Gideon’s tax bombshell blows up in his face

    Gideon’s plans for HMRC to take money directly from people’s accounts without any legal process have been slammed by the Treasury Committee – it would be of course, it’s full o ftories

    the tories really are venal bastards are they not???? and stupid!!!!!!!!!!

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    • 58
      nell says:

      This idea was introduced by gordon brown during his tenure of the Treasury.

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    • 223
      Tony Blair - Everyday I'm Hustling says:

      I never keep more than £4,999 in any of my onshore accounts. If you need tax advice, my company would be happy to consult. Just give Alastair a call. Very reasonable fees. We’re not picky about our clients, either!

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    PC 99 says:

    Ed and Ed: two farts in a trance.

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    • 148
      The Loser Party says:

      Quality. That’s slogan of the week.

      Guido… can we have a campaign slogan of the week competition? You just know there’ll be some gems in there.

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  21. 31
    C O (Ξ7s1) says:

    VAT is applied to food products as stated in the following:

    http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageVAT_ShowContent&id=HMCE_CL_000118&propertyType=document#P25_968

    Crisps, Biscuits which are covered or partly covered in chocolate or products similar to chocolate, ice cream / ice lollies are good examples of standard rated food products.

    How much VAT did S’tella C’reasy have to account for in her junk food expenses claim, where she fed her local activists who took part in overt party political work ?

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    • 73
      Ockham's Razor says:

      True. Deep fried Mars Bars also…

      Interesting slant on International Studies criticising it for being too western-centric and reductionist.

      One can see why Singapore’s previous Foreign Minister can levy such a charge as he has to deal with a very different world to the failing liberally-inclined western model.

      http://tinyurl.com/k5kt3g5

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    • 47
      Nigel Farage - outing willful liars one at a time says says:

      1. Clegg
      2. Chuka

      Who wants to be next? Ed?

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      • 63
        A woman says:

        Did Nigel say that?!
        Brilliant.
        Perhaps I’ll have to match it on catch-up.

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      • 86
        Fed up Joe Public & all voting UKIP ORG says:

        Don’t forget that Grant Shi*tes was also sliced up last night by Nigel
        on QT, is it any wonder that CMDD is doing his upmost, wriggling
        in every direction he can to avoid being confronted by NF on TV in the
        run up to the 07 May 2015 GE, when CMDD will be publicly castrated* at
        the ballot box by the Voters after years of being defecated & urinated
        on by the Cons*Lie*Labor*Leb*Dims Anti-Democracy Alliance for there
        own nefarous ends

        * Of course I have assumed CMDD has a pair, which is unproven, given
        his so called performance since May 2010

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  23. 35
    Oh, really? says:

    If this is the best he can do, maybe they should tell him to Axel F… off?

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  24. 43
    A word in edge ways says:

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    • 54
      Spartacus says:

      i’m guessing establishment parties includes dimblebore and his hand picked audience

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      • 80
        Tom Catesby. says:

        Dimblebore showed his bias and his poor chairmanship by not raining in the other speakers and allowing Farage to make his points and answer the questions clearly. the conlibliebore axsis do not want the British people to hear the facts at any price, roll on voting day.

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      • 110
        Ellie-Mae (9) says:

        Indeed, the QT party…left-left of centre with that fence-sitting liberal streak running through it. Really an attack dog for Labour, “In the BBC we trust” is it’s motto.

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    • 59
      Leftwit says:

      It’s the socialist way. Shout down and heckle your opponents rather than engage with their arguments!

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      • 76
        well done Farage says:

        Just like they’ve been shouting down and ignoring the
        British public for years. But no more.
        It’s our time to be heard.

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    • 113
      RightwinggitRedux says:

      What a bunch of c­u­nts these people are…

      I wonder how many people watching the appalling behaviour of those slags are now going to vote UKIP?

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  25. 55
    nell says:

    That axelrod man is working well for them then? I hope he’s not costing them too much money for all this duff advice!

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  26. 56
    Axelrod says:

    Oi!! If it worked for Obama, it will work for Miliband!!

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    • 61
      nell says:

      obama had onbe thing going for him, like him or not, he had charisma. I rather fancy axelrod is on a loser with militwit.

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      • 95
        Dribbling Lemocrat says:

        I rather think one of those fancy Polonium injections would improve the Milipede’s charisma no end.

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    Genghiz the kahn says:

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  28. 62
    BBC, the Broadcasting wing of the Guardian says:

    Another thing to put in the ‘Ignore’ pile.

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  29. 65
    Either, or. Neither, nor. The third way is both says:

    Farage did make one mistake though. He said chukka was either a liar or pig ignorant. It should have occurred to Nigel that Chuka is both.

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  30. 66
    Anonymous says:

    To be fair to the Millibands, both parents are busy people and the Romanian nanny probably does all the shopping.

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  31. 67
    Tom Catesby. says:

    Another own goal from the liebore ‘vegetables’again.

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    Long John Silver' s parrot says:

    So Mr Cameron is not going to resign when Scotland vote Yes.

    That will relieve the Markets.

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    • 74
      nell says:

      I really hope scotland does vote yes – it will remove at least 30 labour mp’s from Westminster – kinnockio will have to move north of the border then if he wants to keep the party he’s got back!

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    • 77
      Whisky galore says:

      I can’t understand why Scotland are immediately going to sign over their hard won freedom from the English over to Brussels though. Scotchland is the perfect size for a tax haven country and has loads of banks already set up to take the dosh.

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  33. 71
    nell says:

    I’ve just looked at that shopping basket. Is that what the labour party thinks represents a typical weekly shop? Bottles of pop and beer , piles of beefburgers and no proper staples like flour, sugar and eggs (no vat on them either) ?!

    Talk about being out of touch with how the real population out here lives!!

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    • 79
      i reckon says:

      It’s what their trendy North London ad team buy.
      The rest of the week they eat out while schmoozing
      Labour MP’s in top restaurants.

      Like

      • 96
        Bosun Higgs says:

        They don’t eat junk like that. It’s what they buy for their domestic staff.

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      • 102
        Split Lentils R us says:

        Eh? That’s what “trendy north London ad team” think the rest of the population buy.

        Like

    • 98
      Tony the Tiger...Labour's No1 Public Enemy says:

      I thought Miliband was going to send the “Food Police” to every household if he was elected to make sure they are eating healthily ? Doesn’t seem to chime with that policy but then again when they were in power I seem to remember Labour also came up with the wheeze of giving pregnant women £250 to enable them to by fruit n’ veg .It would be interesting to see exactly hpw much of that was actually spent on the said foodstuffs

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      • 111
        nell says:

        LOL remember gordon brown’s policy that he trialled as PM, somewhere up north of sending food police into every house to check their refrigerators and advise what food they should be buying – he claimed he created a few thousand jobs that way – somehow it died a quiet death , I’ve no idea what happened to the poor folks who were employed for this wacky policy.

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  34. 84
    a real hardworking Brit says:

    Love the way that Labour keeps trying to link themselves
    with “hardworking” Brits. They also used the phrase in that
    woeful PPB earlier this week.
    It ain’t gonna work.Us real hardworking Brits will forever link
    Labour with union troughers and benefit fraudsters like White Dee.

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    • 99
      nell says:

      yes the tories need to make white dee the poster girl for the real face of labour – now that would be a good advert!

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  35. 89
    gormless voter says:

    Only allow the vote to those with an IQ greater than 100. Then perhaps the spin meisters will have to work for their money.

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  36. 92
    M J K Smith says:

    We can be free of the buying and selling of women through nationalisation. They should be owned by the state and distributed to immigrants.

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  37. 93
    Even the Guardianistas delight in Chuka's misery says:

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  38. 97
    Ockham's Razor says:

    Crown Preference Rules – again.

    Plan to let HMRC take tax debt straight from bank accounts – Indy

    Close your UK based bank accounts (unless they are in the red.)

    http://tinyurl.com/kgnyebd

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    • 104
      nell says:

      For many small businesses, employers nic/tax, vat returns and corporation tax are already paid this way – it’s a sensible and cost efficient way for hmrc and convenient for businesses, to collect what’s owed.

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      • 109
        State renders judicial system redundant says:

        You really should read what this new law means again Nell.

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        • 119
          nell says:

          of course the other people who can already have money removed directly from their accounts by the state are errant absent parents who fail to pay their child support.

          I don’t think for one minute that hmrc is going to be coming along to the likes of me, who always pay my dues on time, to remove what little is left in my bank account.

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      • 116
        Ockham's Razor says:

        If you are prepared to rely on the benignity of HMRC officials, paid bonuses on what they collect but not letting this affect their judgement, then you are left with a valid point.

        This goes much further though. They can wipe your bank account out, all but £5,000, for debt that a spouse may have incurred, with no safeguard of having to request a court order. And they might even make a mistake and then put their fingers in their ears…

        Not for me, than you!

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        • 224
          Tony Blair - Everyday I'm Hustling says:

          They do this in America. For example, they confiscated all the money in a business account because they suspected the account holders were ‘structuring’ their payments, making regulard, small deposits, to avoid deposting more than $10,000 in one go, thus avoiding reporting requirements.

          The business? A convience store, making a cash deposit each day. The IRS confiscated almost $80,000 (no court order required).

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    • 106
      C is for Cameron and Communist. says:

      Gobsmacked that a tory government would pass a law allowing the state to seize a citizen’s assests without having to gain permission from the courts of the land first.

      Like

      • 117
        David Cameron says:

        It’s because I hate people who work hard and achieve. If it isn’t inherited wealth then you don’t deserve it plebs. Now pay higher taxes and stop whining. Toodlepip..

        Like

        • 127
          Cameron is a cunting cunt says:

          Inherited wealth sheltered offshore please.

          Daddy will be turning in his grave.

          Like

      • 129
        Howled down says:

        Sssh, don’t mention the EU

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        • 191
          Fed up Joe Public & all voting UKIP ORG says:

          So if the undemocratic EUSSR issues a new Tax edict of say 10% from
          each UK Tax Payer, on the bases it needs additional funds because of all
          the purloining of EUSSR funds, which have not been signed off for nearly
          20 years. Then HMCR can just dive straight in to every one’s bank accounts
          & take what ever they decide is the appropiate amount without any reference or agreement from the totally subservient Parish Council (aka it was the British Government at one time) & pay this stolen money straight to the Brussels Mafia aka EUSSR thieves

          Some may say this can never happen here BUT look what happened in Cyprus during there EURO bail out……The EUSSR has form & its being added & abetted by the Cons*LieLabor*LebDims Anti-Democracy Alliance who are completely entranced by this fcuking dinosaur from the last century
          & the filthy stinking masses have no right to oppose the Brussels Oligarchs
          edicts at all & never will IF our elected MPs aka Parasites,Pimps & Leeches
          get there way and shaft us yet again for there own nefarous ends.

          VOTE UKIP & take OUR country back from them……

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          • jgm2 says:

            Exactly.

            This is teeing us up for just such a scenario.

            A mass ‘one-off’ raid on everybody savings.

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          • Fed up Joe Public & all voting UKIP ORG says:

            jgm2 below…….

            One off raid……suspect it will be more like total addiction !!

            once taken , then EUSSR Oligarchs will become completley

            addicted with no rehabilitation possible as our Parasites, Pimps

            & Leeches aka MPs will have colluded in ALL of our rights being

            secede to Brussels for ever more

            Leaving the only way out will be W*R !!! but as our armed forces

            will have been completley decimated by then, thanks to CMDD &

            his complete total love of everything EUSSR, that door will be

            slammed shut as well. And all of the UK population will be

            chained up slaves for ever………….

            BUT Remember all of the words of “Rule Britannia………….”

            & we will win !!

            VOTE UKIP & take OUR country back from them……

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  39. 114
    Grab the popcorn says:

    Rolf Harris has arrived in court to face 12 counts of indecent assault against four girls, with the prosecution expected to begin outlining its case later.

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  40. 118
    Still, it could be worse says:

    I bought some Gari the other day in the ethnic shop, the one that is surrounded by the polish shops, and it’s not bad at all, very handy for soups and wotnot.

    http://wheatlessbay.wordpress.com/2007/10/18/nigerian-cassava-rolls-eba/

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  41. 124
    Genghiz the kahn says:

    Already the spoofs have started…pic.twitter.com/TEBjAZz0BA and pic.twitter.com/I2VrFN6I5d— Paul Waugh (@paulwaugh) May 9, 2014

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  42. 128
    Let's do the Math... says:

    If you spent £1000 before VAT, then the extra 2.5% VAT will cost you £25 – i.e. before the increase you’d pay £1175 including VAT, and afterwards £1200 including VAT.

    So to pay an extra £450 VAT, you’d need to be spending 450/25 x £1000, or £18,000 before VAT.

    Assuming that the £450 figure is per annum, that means you’d have to spend £1500 a month (£18K/12) on VAT rated goods to spend that much extra on VAT.

    Isn’t the average salary in this country about £25K? I’m not sure if that’s net or gross, but even if it’s net, that equates to a salary of just over £2000 a month.

    So, we are being asked to believe that someone paid the average salary spends just under 75% (£1500/just over £2000) of their take home pay (before they pay the mortgage, or rent, or buy food – all of which are zero rated for VAT) on goods that are VAT rated.

    That doesn’t sound right to me.

    There again, since I don’t have a brain the size of a planet, I’m not blessed with the ‘intellectual self-confidence’ to believe that if I just pluck a large number out of the air and plaster it misleadingly on a picture of some goods that are zero rated for VAT, then people will automatically assume that their food shopping bill has gone up by £450 because of the VAT increase.

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  43. 137
    Ockham's Razor says:

    Britain set for stronger growth than previously expected – NIESR (via Reuters)

    http://tinyurl.com/lcomyg2

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  44. 140
    Put a stop to it, UKIP says:

    http://www.immigrationboards.com/uk-tier-1-general-visas/

    That’s the problem.
    Thousands upon thousands looking ways to get themselves into this overcrowded country.

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  45. 144
    Curious says:

    So bumsex Dave will not resign if the Scots vote “Yes” and hence the U.K. is no more under his Premiership.

    Why are Tory M.P.s still supporting the bastard?

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    • 185
      Round the Bend says:

      Labour setup the Scottish parliament by passing the Scotland Act 1998, so the whole of the Labour party should resign if Scotland goes independent.

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  46. 146
    Anonymous says:

    He He.
    Nothing changes about ‘Tax and spend’ Labour financial incompetence. Once they run out of tax they resort to borrow, preferring to place massive future liabilities they run up off-balance sheet. I think it’s called prudence.
    Not realising the items they chose are VAT -free is par for the course.

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    • 157
      Tosser Dave. says:

      Me too — I’m incompetent as well! — I’m still running a deficit of £100billion p.a. after 4 fucking years in “office”

      My 2010 Tory manifesto said I would eliminate the bulk of the deficit by 2015.

      THAT WAS A DELIBERATE FUCKING LIE.

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      • 173
        Round the Bend says:

        2005 Labour manifesto said we would have a referendum on Europe constitution, then went to court to show that a manifesto means nothing!

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        • 204
          Fed up Joe Public & all voting UKIP ORG says:

          What about the Elephant in the Room that CMDD aka Tosser Dave

          does not want YOU to even talk about, the NATIONAL DEBT

          under his (bar)stewardship its gone from around £700+Billion when

          McMental was eased out in May 2010 to £1.3 TRILLION today &

          around £ 1.4 TRILLION by May 2015 GE, His fiscal (incompetence)

          achievement will have DOUBLED the Nationa Debt within One (&

          his ONLY) term of office & that figure does not include all of the

          hundreds of billions off of the UK balance sheet re like McMentals

          PFI……….

          All the fcuking Tosser Dave wants to talk about is his deficit

          reduction as he uses every form of mendacity & manipulation

          to hold onto power @ May 2015 G.E.

          VOTE UKIP & take OUR country back from them !!!!!

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  47. 147
    The EU says:

    Remember, every time you pay VAT, we take a £ cut.

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  48. 150
    Round the Bend says:

    The prime Mentalist has just been interviewed in Abuja Nigeria, waffling on as usual. As if Nigeria was not totally fucked already!

    Like

    • 155
      Mad, Bad & Dangerous Gordon McRuin ( Member in absentia ) says:

      I’m going to save Nigeria, then save Scotland !!

      Like

    • 166
      Round the Bend says:

      I forgot Nigeria has just taken over as the the country in Africa with the largest GDP. I am sure McDoom can soon remedy that.

      Like

    • 175
      Sue Denim says:

      I’m keeping an eye out for those young girls.

      The other eye is safely in my pocket.

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  49. 151
    Dick Droxford says:

    Quite apart from the obvious point about most of the items actually being zero rated, what about the other obviously disingenuous point? VAT rose from 17.5% to 20%, which crudely put, increases the VAT on rated items by 2.13%. So, in a year in which evil Tories increased your presumably “average” shopping bill by £450, you would need to have spent £21,126, or £406 per week on VAT rated shopping. If we assume that our “average” shopper is a basic rate tax payer, then they would need a basic gross salary of nearly £27,000 to just pay for their groceries!!!
    Labour really have sunk to a new low with this attack add. They are either wildly out of touch with reality, or so blatantly prepared to bare-faced lie in a public forum. Actually, perhaps it’s both. I don’t suppose the faithful will see this for what it is. For the record, I haven’t seen this kind of appalling crap coming from the Tories, UKIP, or even the Lib (whateverworkstokeepmeonthegravytrain) Dems.
    The Labour leadership presumably signed this advert off and must be held to account for it, but I am not holding my breath.

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    • 160
      nell says:

      well as for labour lies, don’t forget bullyballs motto ‘ if you tell a lie often enough the voters will believe it’

      Like

    • 183
      Johnny says says:

      IIRC when the VAT rate was last being changed the figures people were throwing around included a proportion of spending on a car. Something like assuming a person buys a new car every 3 years at an average price of (for argument’s sake) £21,000 so that is taken as £7,000 in a year.

      The Daily Mail reported it like this: Middle class face £450 VAT rise: 20% rate ‘will slash spending power of families’

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    • 214
      SIZE 15 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

      The concept of zero rating is dangerous, it is far different from VAT free all they have to do is alter the rate without legislation
      How many now remember when VAT was 8% ?

      Like

  50. 162
    Iain Duncan Smith says:

    Skull Cracker – my god he’s shit at robbing banks isn’t he?

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  51. 163
    Anonymous says:

    Like

  52. 164
    Procol Harum says:

    Panic over.
    We will return the girls.

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  53. 169
    Nigel Mirage says:

    Like

  54. 171
    Roger Melly says:

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  55. 176
    Minger says:

    That looks very similar to white dee’s shopping basket….except for the veg and the cleaning products.

    Like

  56. 177
    Ed Stalinbrand says:

    When I am PM all food will be free. Every home shall have a magic food tree.

    Come and vote for me if you think you’re thick enough.

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  57. 178
    David Axlegrease says:

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  58. 201
    ned ludd says:

    Send the fookin lot back. Except for my missus, of course.

    Like

  59. 202
    More tea,vicar? says:

    Oh, dear. We will have to get Nancy Mandelson back…

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  60. 207
    MB. says:

    Is this the result of their American adviser not understanding VAT?

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  61. 211
    Maimed Codger says:

    It might be an idea to tell this American, just where Scotland, Ireland and Wales are on the map, Perhaps to explain their importance to Yank Land, many of the founding Fathers were Welsh, or of Welsh Extraction, but also No one needs to know that Paris is in France or Madrid in Spain, other than those lacking in knowledge of anything outside their front door… there can be few other Aberystwyths, In short, Americans should realise there are other ways of doing things.. a point I suspect, that is obviously lost on the Laborious Party.

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  62. 213
    Thomas Atkins says:

    Goodbye-ee! Goodbye-ee
    Wipe a tear, baby dear, from your eye-ee,
    Though it’s hard to part, I know
    I’ll be tickled to death to go
    Don’t cry-ee! Don’t sigh-ee!
    There’s a silver lining in the sky-ee
    Bon soir old thing! Cheerio, chin-chin!
    Nahpoo! Toodleoo! Goodbye-ee!

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