May 3rd, 2014

Quote of the Day

Marina Hyde on the pious left and UKIP…

“…all right-thinking people to the left of UKIP – from Tories to commies – are supposed to regard it as a triumph each time a news outlet’s exposé forces Nigel Farage to outlaw some nobody for a vile thing they said on social media three years ago. This, apparently, is a win, even though the evidence suggests it simply calcifies the sense of asymmetric warfare against UKIP out there in the unreachable spaces where all those rising numbers of people who are going to vote for the party are living their unknowable lives.”


55 Comments

  1. 1
    DynoRod Dave, Shitshifter to the Clergy says:

    I’m one.

  2. 2
    Llareggub says:

    I’m sure it’s very insightful. I’m just not sure what it means.

  3. 3
    Anonymous says:

    “Unknowable lives” is a bit poetic. I don’t think people are all that different.

  4. 4
    couldn't make it up says:

    It means: most people don’t care that some nobody in UKIP has vile view’s and by keep attacking UKIP a lot of people start thinking, I like an underdog/outside so im going to vote for them.

    It’s only the political establishment that care and think they are actually harming UKIP. Nigel must wakeup every morning and think please let there be another story. Every time a few hundred more votes in the bag

  5. 5
    Atilla the Hen says:

    Me too!

  6. 6
    Gunnery Sergeant Hartman says:

    UKIP & Clarkson have got a lot of folks smiling that secret inner smile of the persecuted majority. Like eating in a health food restaurant and knowing all the while that there is an eclaire in the fridge at home.

  7. 7

    It’s definitely a candidate for pseud’s corner

  8. 8
    dafuq did she say says:

    it gave me a headache.that is all

  9. 9
    Just saying says:


    “The vast majority of UKIP supporters are decent people. Smearing UKIP as a racist party by the establishment parties does them no credit.”

    So said Lord Ashcroft, April 30.

    No wonder Cameron fell out with him.

  10. 10
    EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

    To have to descend to “Smearing someone / anyone” rather opens up the issue of what the smearer themselves cannot face up to themselves.

    Address the content and context of the subject matter. To do otherwise and descend to the level of smearing; means that the smearer has no true answers and has lost the argument on the content and context of the original subject matter.

  11. 11
    Eruditus says:

    Her quote simply shows how the so-called educated of the last Labour era can constantly produce gobble gook rhetoric that has little real meaning; but is sufficiently complex enough that supposed “literati” consider it quotable, mainly due to their not understanding it.

  12. 12
    Joe Public. says:

    Talking about smearing you should TRY to listen to the radio 4 Question Time this week to hear the shouting minority impose their will on the rest.
    Turned off half way through the 2nd question on food banks when the screaming from the loony left and audience became juvenile and ridiculous with Dimbleby again showing how biased he is.

  13. 13
    FairBobby says:

    Me three!

  14. 14
    Scrat says:

    UKIP are full of nasty party racists and homophobes.

  15. 15
    just a guy says:

    Or she’s saying UKIP get a boost every time these stories get aired… That by avoiding politics they are able to Hijack the feeling amongst many that parliament doesn’t represent the vast majority of British people.

    But i’m just a guy

  16. 16
    Fucking dis custard says:

    Bullshit baffles brains

  17. 17
    just a guy says:

    Yes because food banks are an extension of the Labour Party. You only say that because the Tory Party refuses to support them.

    Get a grip.

  18. 18
    ukipper says:

    Me four

  19. 19
    stilyagi_air_corps says:

    What she means, I think, is that what we have here is a failure to communicate… Give it a few weeks, and all should become clear to everyone concerned!

  20. 20
    just a guy says:

    Or there not bothered because the European Elections mean nothing to them. If you are Left wing and want a referendum vote greens on the 22nd if you are right wing vote UKIP.

    Try not to encourage UKIP to much, they want to get RID of the NHS entirely.

  21. 21
    ukipper says:

    Looking forward to the eu electiobs. We’re gonna kick the liblabcons right in the nards. Go ukip!

  22. 22
    ned ludd says:

    It means the writer is well up herself.

  23. 23
    catesby says:

    Look at the list of Ukip candidates in London they’re all workers/professionals non-politicians. In other words normal!

  24. 24
    EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

    It [Tory election blurb] says:
    “LABOUR AND THE LIB DEMS WONT.
    UKIP CAN’T.
    WE WILL IN 2017.”

    The Cameron led Tory party are lying – because they imply that they will give a referendum in 2017 – and choose to leave out the caveats that Cameron has attached to such a vote …

    e.g. Cameron wants to re-negotiate. He cannot do that. Angela M has said so.

    Cameron is playing for time. Of course the fall back ‘excuse’ to giving a referendum is always its not quite the right time now [‘now’ being any convenient time that the pressure mounts – for action not weasel words].

  25. 25
    just a guy says:

    It will clearly be the only party that never bothers to fight for British Interest in Europe that will be the most dominate party in the European Parliament.

    It is time that we left Europe, but whilst we are stuck with it UKIP but do their job.

  26. 26
    Vlad the Loudhailer says:

    It means she has no idea what most people in the real world think or do.

  27. 27
    Fluttershy says:

    Calm down, girls – you’ll get your cutie marks one day!

  28. 28
    The Boggin Guardian says:

    Who actually cares about Guardian’s arsewipes opinion on anything.

    Ukip are a F.U.D. and nothing else.

  29. 29
    STOP THE BBC! says:

    bbc qt has as little credibility as their other propaganda vehicles: the now show; the news quiz; have i got news for you; bbc news etc..
    Their audiences are self-selected far-lefties, and they are preaching to the choir.

    The bbc does not represent the public mind; the bbc does not report on the public mind; it serves only one common purpose, which is to try and steer the public mind.

    No serious politician should associate themselves with the bbc or use it as a platform.

    The bbc is the enemy of the British people.

  30. 30
    stilyagi_air_corps says:

    A bit like Linux and other open-source projects, then. Derided and mocked, then one day you wake up to find it ubiquitous, with its propriertry rivals teetering on the edge of irrelevance. If the EU election live CD edition works better for us than Gov XP, users could always do a permanent install next year…

  31. 31
    STOP THE BIG LIE LEFT! says:

    There’s no such thing as race; and no such thing as homophobia.

    It’s only nasty cryptofascists like you who wrongly believe that sexual deviency isn’t a mental illness; and who perpetuate the lie that race exists – that makes you the racist.

  32. 32
    DerrIn Brown is a leech , a wood tick and a mosquito all wrapped into a pint-size dwarf says:

    It is a protest vote so cut the crap analysis which amounts to nothing than drivel!

  33. 33
    Bullkok! says:

    Protest! Protest! Protest! Eu election panto! How can you stick one to establishment? Vote for some double standard moron who is part of the establishment. Another typical expenses trougher who employs foreigners. Who cares as long as the protest voters stick two fingers up to the establishment.

    Pantomime politics. Bread & circuses bullkok!

  34. 34
    stilyagi_air_corps says:

    The fear is strong in this one…

  35. 35
    cynic says:

    The NHS is slowly getting rid of itself. All that’ll be left will be non-jobs for lefties at vast public expense.

  36. 36
    cynic says:

    As long as it gives pain to the Lefty Establishment, that’s OK.

  37. 37
    Lord Croker says:

    Guido hates progressives.

  38. 38
    Simon Bowell's Talent Show says:

    I get more votes than the lot them. Ha Ha Ha! The sheeple pay to vote. Ha! Ha! Ha! No fool like an old fool. Ha! Ha! Ha!

  39. 39
    Norm Normal says:

    Everyone should hate anything tagged with ‘progressive’. It’s usually something substandard, ill conceived, up itself and run by a load of loons.

  40. 40
    stilyagi_air_corps says:

    Circumspice

  41. 41
    EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

    Hey GF – i’ll give you quote of the day – it’s over on the Sat 7 blog – of some woman saying

    “No we do not vote for sodomites”.

    That quote – should be on ‘comment of the day’.

  42. 42
    Tommy Cooper says:

    You can’t say fairer than that….

  43. 43
    broderick crawford says:

    ” all RIGHT thinking people to the LEFT of Ukip … from the Torues to the commies ” ???

    In one broad brush stroke she has elevated the rest of the political firmament to the position of social acceptance versus Ukip as rabid pariahs .

    Carry on girlie , more publicity like that and Ukip get another 5000 votes a day .

  44. 44
    EeeYepBlowing Whistles says:

    Marina Hyde – has been ‘hiding’ much evidence that she has damned well know of; along with toilets Maguire – contrary to “the Public interest” – for their right and left purposes.

  45. 45
    Hold your horses says:

    Did you ever write an essay at school. Remember being told “define your terms”? What is a”racist”?

  46. 46
    fucked the bbc says:

    I don’t have a TV license/commie poll tax.

  47. 47
    Private Grover Pile says:

    or a jelly doughnut….

  48. 48
    Steven Pinker says:

    Exactly… There is no real definition of the term “race”, so the term “racist” doesn’t really mean anything. The only thing it can mean is someone who believes in race. A bit like “creation” and “creationist”.

    Whether in law or in a dictionary all you find is imprecise and circular references.

    The thing this 19th century word is intended to cover is the idea of ethnicity or ethnotype, which equates to a collection of phenotypes culture; and thus “ethnocentrism”.

    …but of course, the word “racist” works far better as a synonym for “evil” for the fist-wringing buckle-hatted mob than the more precise term ethnocentrist, which correctly implies that everyone is innately inclined towards those more similar to them in appearance and behaviour.

  49. 49
    Steven Pinker says:

    Phenotypes plus culture equals ethnotype/ethnicity.

    Ethnocentrism = racism.
    i.e.: neutral = evil (apparently)

  50. 50
    She's a Toff says:

    Marina Hyde (born 13 May 1974 as Marina Elizabeth Catherine Dudley-Williams) is an English columnist who writes on current affairs, politics, celebrity and sport for The Guardian newspaper. She is the daughter of Sir Alastair Edgcumbe James Dudley-Williams and the granddaughter of aviation pioneer and Conservative politician Sir Rolf Dudley-Williams.

  51. 51
    Amanda says:

    I’ll take 5 and my Polish friend would like 6 – she loves Nige (Note to Matthew Parris)

  52. 52
    Matthew's Friend says:

    Fellow mung bean eaters; the plebs are frightening the servants; we must don our nose pegs and visit Watford
    that will frit them.

  53. 53
    Ctesibius says:

    Cost of living crisis. Excellent point. DUEMA

  54. 54
    littlejohn says:

    Every one a top-hatted toff.

  55. 55
    Sid says:

    Its the bloody elite again, going on about little English people with their little lives. Its what Orwell pointed out, the upper classes and their lackeys are all traitors.


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