May 1st, 2014

RICS Deny Labour Claim They are Helping With Rent Caps Policy
Rent Caps “Were Not Part of Our Recommendations”

Labour’s press release on their rent caps announcement this morning claimed that the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) was helping them draw up the policy. Labour said:

“The legislation would place an upper ceiling on any rent increases to prevent excessive rises. This would be based on a benchmark such as average market rents. The Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors is already examining what an appropriate benchmark might be.”

Yet this seems to be the first RICS have heard of this. A spokesperson for RICS tells Guido that rent caps “were not part of our recommendations”, that “we are not working on rent caps” and that they are not helping Labour come up with a rent cap “benchmark”. Guido understands that RICS is “looking into” what happened and has contacted Labour to ask them why this was included in the press release. Oops


135 Comments

  1. 1
    Ed Sillyband says:

    Labour’s policy announcements unravel within hours.

    They’re lurching to the left. If they can’t even get a press release done right, who on earth imagines they can handle the housing market?

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    • 3
      Fishy says:

      Looks like Alexrod’s earning his $bucks…or he’s made a rod for his own back.

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    • 6
      Lootenant! says:

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    • 33
      Liar.Politicians says:

      But, Sadiq Khan just today said we must have rent controls, it’s a top priority for Labour. Still no mention of Europe in the looming European elections though.

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      • 37
        Mitch says:

        I face insecurity from unscrupulous politicians who charge me excessive tax rates. What’s the difference?

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      • 47
        Fishy says:

        Interesting approached by Biased Norman Smith…presenting and even emphasising Labour’s press release and the figures behind them, then a soft interview with Sadiq Khan’t, questioning him only about process – no challenge at all).

        Then to Newark and Smith’s emphasis changes the Tories’ woes and how they are on the back foot.

        What a fuck’ing biased wanker Smith is.

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        • 65
          Vlad the Loudhailer says:

          Didn’t Prescott bulldoze thousands of houses in Burnley,Hull and Liverpool in the name of Pathfinder? They were going to build new better insulated homes. Ran out of taxpayer cash and the result fewer houses. Liverpool City Council were selling off the houses they compulsory purchased for £70,000 for just £1.00. Brilliant

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          • Fishy says:

            Same in Stoke

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          • Lard Prezza says:

            less is more.

            if you get a bottom less bucket that is.
            “Two bottomless buckets of chicken wings .. and hurry up…I suffer from Bohemia.”

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          • SIZE 15 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

            The moron bulldozed thousands of perfectly good houses that only required a couple of thousand pounds spending to bring them up to date.

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      • 78
        Len McCluskey says:

        The Labour party will pledge whatever I want them to pledge, get over it.

        btw do you think I’d look good iin a nice uniform wi’ lots of medals and bling and shit?

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    • 84
      Rev Flowers says:

      Millipede a rent boy….Nice. Have him washed and brought to my room.

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    • 101
      The Critic says:

      Labour’s policy announcements unravel within hours.
      – they are getting better, ususally happens in minutes……..

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    • 103
      chriselee says:

      Who’s this knob on the Daily Politics? Where’s Brillo?
      Come back all is forgiven.

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  2. 2
    Milimarx says:

    V is for “Vapid”!

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  3. 5
    Scandal! says:

    A murderer on death row in America took 45 minutes to die and witnesses said he seemed to be suffering before he eventually died.

    And the problem with that is? :-D

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    • 20
      Rics are twats says:

      Should be standard for them all especially one who buries a girl alive.

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    • 27
      Britain, becoming more sensible now by the day says:

      Please can we have this too Nigel. It would rid us of the idle screws too.

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    • 66
      The LieBore Partee after the Revolution says:

      Can we go first please ?? – rather than the wall or hanged upside down from a tree?

      We feel we deserve no less.

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  4. 7
    Fucking Obvious says:

    Another LabLibConner lie.

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  5. 8
    Yankee go home? says:

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    • 12
      Ralph says:

      That’s my boy. He’s an immigrant at heart. Always was, always will be.

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    • 18
      Rics are twats says:

      And tell that fool deputy speaker Hoyle we say shedule not skedule. Idiot.

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      • 50

        It’s very confusing for Ed. At the minute, we have ‘Left-tenants’, people who rely on benefits being hiked up by the left in order to be able to afford to pay their rent.

        In future we will have Loo-Tenants, people who can’t find anywhere else to live because of Eds rent control measures.

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  6. 9
    A House says:

    Ooops.

    You mean the people you took money from this morning are liars, Guido?

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  7. 11
    Ed Moribund says:

    The RICS I have been talking to is the Revolutionary Institute of Crazy Schemes

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  8. 13
    bergen says:

    Axelrod-a cowboy making policy on the hoof.

    I thought it odd that the RICS were involved and now we know they weren’t.

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    • 15
      Eddy and the Axelrods says:

      ya gotta sigh a little
      cry a little
      and sometimes ya even gotta lie a little

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  9. 16
    P@kis Landlord says:

    The RICS are fucking wankers.

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    • 23
      Not in my name says:

      Well that is a contradiction in terms but RICS do tend not to give people warm, happy feelings.

      However they are not going to let that one go: Rent Controls are beyond utterly stupid.

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      • 31
        Britain, becoming more sensible now by the day says:

        They do not represent their members and are a sham. Being based in Parliament Square gives them a false importance.

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        • 35
          Shelter says:

          Kick them out to an office in the suburbs and use the space for affordable housing.

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  10. 17
    Larry the Cat says:

    Why stop at rents? What about Capping house prices?

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  11. 19
    Ah! doctor says:

    Rent cap fits?

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  12. 22
    Peter Grimes says:

    If it emanates from a NuLaB orifice it will almost always be a lie.

    It’s what they do best!

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  13. 26
    Fed up Joe Public & all voting UKIP ORG says:

    Who would have thought that Zanu*Lie*Labor politicians were being
    economical with the facts for party political reasons…….

    No doubt UKIP will be smeared for another cock up by a founder
    member of the triumvirate called the Cons*LieLabor*LebDims Anti-
    Democracy Alliance…………

    VOTE UKIP………………….

    And take OUR country back from them…….

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    • 130
      Common Sense says:

      By Giving it to an extension of them… Nigel was a banker, his doners are ex-tory party.

      They waste their time in Europe hoping for a referendum, so take our money and don’t do the job they are paid for. Greens at least get involved and debate on the issues they talk about in the press.

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      • 135
        Four-eyed English Genius says:

        Are you seriously saying that his kebabs are made of ex Tory Party members? I know some of the lamb meat has proven to be less than totally ovine, but this is taking things a bit far!

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  14. 30
    Sarah Millington says:

    Small state. Low taxes. Out of the EU. Government out of all markets.

    Not rocket science.

    Vote Ukip.

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    • 131
      The Banker says:

      Yes Please, I really Really like that idea. I want to do what I want and no mistake. Since 2008 we’ve been scrutinised unfairly…

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  15. 32
    Ludicrous little children pretending they know wtf they are doing says:

    Surely a camera crew must be following Axelrod during his time with Labour.
    It would be comedy gold.
    Like the Office, only funny.

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  16. 34
    Blair's Paid Ego Parrot says:

    Read Walter Block on rent control.Or just use your common sense….

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  17. 39
    Rev Flowers says:

    Phew – For a minute there I thought they were talking about rent boy controls.

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  18. 41
    Guy News Room says:

    Mr Mercer returned to his concerns about Nigel”Bottler”l Farage: “the thing which
    about we are all frightened is Nigel”Bottler” Farage”.

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  19. 43
    The Last Quango in Paris says:

    Oh Dear! Alex Cameron QC (acting pro bono) has managed to stay a massive fraud trial as the defendants would not be properly represented.

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  20. 46
    D$ says:

    How are they going to stop letting agents charging the “service fee” of £350 he is babbling about ?

    Its the same principal as all ticket sites charging a service fee…

    Price controls on a free market is a dangerous game…

    Always leads to disasters, shortages and inflation.

    Always.

    So you price control renting.

    Lanlords give up.

    Sell housing.

    Creating a shortage or rentable homes.

    Pushing up prices even further.

    Epic fail.

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  21. 51
    D$ says:

    Also a LOT of people are quite happy initially to sign six month rental agreements as it gives them flexibility to move if they change jobs etc at the begging of their working lives.

    If people want longer tenancies they can always phone up the agent / landlord and ask….. landlords will be quite happy to sign a three year guaranteed deal…

    Once the six month term finished it goes to a month to month shorthold agreement which can be brilliant for both sides, if you want to move and it gives you flexablity as your not contracted for a large sum.

    Labour.

    The intentions are right, but they have absolutely no idea how the world works.

    People often want short term agreements……

    Their a bunch of idiots.

    Why would a majority of people actually want to sign a three year rental deal ?

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    • 57
      Shelter is a 53million Pound Labour Party Front says:

      Why would anybody do that? What would a student, for instance?

      These ideas all sound great until you test them in the real world.

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  22. 58
    C O (Ξ7r1) says:

    @OR (and anyone else interested) : Climate change de-bolloxed…

    The observation that land weather stations are predominantly located in developed industrialized nations, relatively close to urban developments, is a valid observation. It is recognized as a source of upward bias for average temperatures determined from these datasets.

    An effect that has sort of gone quiet in the environmental lexicon:

    Urban Heat Island

    This phenomena should be well known in the UK as it was first observed there when Luke Howard began to study the local climate of L’ondon back in the 19th.

    L’ondon is one of the most studied cities on the planet from an environmental perspective.

    The following paper presents UHI clearly, and also explains how localised heating seen in a built up area like a city can have a marked effect on rural areas some distance outside that city:

    http://www.urban-climate.org/documents/UHI_Canopy.pdf

    Air pollution can contribute to higher minimum averages in developed areas. But the largest impacts are the change in geometry that buildings introduce, and the modification of the thermal properties of the surface by the introduction on non-permeable high heat capacity materials, such as concrete, which reflect long wavelengths but absorb short wavelength solar radiation.

    Interesting points summarized:

    i) After sunset, urban areas remain at a higher temperature than surrounding rural areas for 4 hours or so. (They are radiating the heat stored during the day, resulting in warming of the local atmosphere absent the Sun.)

    ii) When looking at average global temperatures it has been noted that the effect of urban areas needs to be carefully accounted for due to the biases they introduce.

    This was documented by Changnon S.A. 1992: Inadvertent weather modification in urban areas: Lessons for global climate change. (Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society 73, 619-627)

    This local heating effect will remain irrespective of human production of CO2.

    On a side note..

    Politically, this may imply that Maoism is the least ‘environmentally friendly’ and sustainable political ideology currently being practised. By encouraging urban development to equalize the use of the land for all, it’s impacts will be measurably profound.

    The local changes in weather patterns already seen in Ch!na are perhaps testament to this – the medium term implications of serious environmental damage to the stability of that country may present a significant global security threat.

    The rational in Europe for undermining energy policy and attempts to reduce energy consumption through artificial economic means such as ‘green levies’ will not address this phenomena. The basis presented for those policies is false.

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  23. 59
    Fishy says:

    GF said:

    People should not be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people.

    That’s not right, Government’s should not be afraid of the people…sometime they have to lead and take people where they may not want to go. That’s what leadership is.

    That…or else we end up with cynical opportunists like Miliband who will say anything to get elected.

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    • 76
      Britannia says:

      Governments should discuss and ask, fair enough, but they should be far more open and far more reluctant to introduce important social changes without consent. Your common purpose idea that leadership involves telling the people what is good for them has got us in a right old mess. Gay marriage and the EU being but two topical examples.

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      • 94
        non taxable pikey says:

        The secret is in the name, government. Unfortunately all too many people think that means the same as rule.

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      • 102
        Fishy says:

        Not telling people what is good for them, but governing in their interests.

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  24. 61
    Meanwhile, spare a thought . . . says:

    . . . . for the poor sods who are ‘interviewing’ and having to listen to yards of terrorist shit spewing from the mouth of the ‘Shit Fame’ leeda, the one and only Bliar clone, – one, Gadams – may he rot

    ah, begorrah so it is!!

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  25. 64
    CCHQ says:

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    • 81
      Fishy says:

      No doubting who’s side Islam and the rest of the C4 wankers are on. Has Cathy Newman ‘fact checked’ Emma Reynold’s yet?

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    • 120
      Gladys at number 63 says:

      Copied by whom, dear? North Korea?

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  26. 67
    Hate filled, racist, misogonistic, deranged, psychotic and lazy, troughing UKIP candidate says:

    The Labour party offers the only future for England and Wales

    We are in dire of a a marxist j.. to bring fresh hope to the nations

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    • 72
      Anxious to Help says:

      Don’t worry sonny – we’ll soon have you out of your misery.

      Why not enjoy a bacon sandwich while you wait?

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    • 118
      Gladys at number 63 says:

      Who were you saying was hat-filled, dear?

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      • 119
        Gladys at number 63 says:

        oh dear, I made a mistake what with this new fangled technology.

        I meant hate-filled.

        Sorry everybody.

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  27. 70
    The BBC says:

    The vast majority of economists, even left-wing ones, agree that rent controls are a fucking disaster for a nation’s housing stock. So I guess this makes Milliband a Denier ?

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  28. 77
    Nigel Farage says:

    Subway now refuse to serve ham or bacon so as not to offend Muslims.

    Not the first time they’ve fucked up our subways, in fairness.

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    • 90
      Bugger Off says:

      Fuck Muzzos – if they don’t like it here bugger OFF

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      • 105
        A Blacksmith says:

        Fuck Subway bowing to a vociferous imported minority group. The correct response is for everybody to go somewhere else for their sandwiches and let Subway rot on the vine.

        Action this day.

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  29. 79
    Rob says:

    No government is going to build more houses. More houses will depress house prices, and ALL of the parties are chasing at most half a million votes in the top 150 marginal constituencies. Property owners who don’t see their asset rising by at least 10% a year are not going to vote for you. So you lie to get the mugs to vote for you but quietly rig the system to squeeze supply even further.

    If you want a home and cannot afford one, bad luck and fuck off, the main parties couldn’t give a fuck about you.

    Mind, UKIP won’t build any either, they don’t want to piss of their core vote, elderly property owners.

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    • 108
      Elderly property owner who will be voting UKIP says:

      …. elderly property owners who had to work a lifetime to get their own property – and are in no way responsible for the current fuckups being experienced by other members of society.

      There fixed it for you.

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    • 110
      Paxo says:

      If the other parties had adopted UKIP’s policy of limiting immigration we wouldn’t need to build that many houses.

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      • 132
        Common Sense says:

        Really you should re-read that. Then go read a book on why houses have got so high in the first place.

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    • 116
      Red Rob says:

      Have you personally met anyone who wants house prices to rise?

      Most of us do better if they are static or low growth, since we can either afford to buy bigger or better ones, or first ones.

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  30. 80
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    Labour have a cost of fact manipulation crisis.

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  31. 83
    Liebour says:

    Guido understands that RICS is “looking into” what happened and has contacted Labour to ask them why this was included in the press release

    What happened is that we lied. It’s what we do. Balls’ stonking great porkie about the CO-OP/ Britannia merger was a good one, was it not? We love Ed Balls. He does a barefaced lie like no other.

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  32. 86
    Martin McGuinness says:

    I do like killing people. I’ve killed lots of them.

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  33. 92
    Bill Quango MP says:

    The picture of Miliband at the top of the page…

    He looks like Joey from Friends doing his ‘smell the fart’ acting class.

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  34. 97
    Bill Quango MP says:

    RICS .. This could be the end of a beautiful friendship.

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  35. 99
    Butterscotch says:

    Miliband needs to fix his false press releases before he attempts anything more.

    He’s not just weird, he’s totally incompetent. Poor bloke’s out of his depth.

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  36. 100
    Ed Moribund says:

    The manifesto is finally shaping up nicely.

    Energy price freeze.
    Rent control
    Zero hours contracts.

    Really it just needs some padding and its done!

    Let me think .. erm.. Page 2. Insert .. 99 bottles of beer on the wall, 99 bottles of beer… …”

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    • 104
      C.O.Jones says:

      It shows the mindset of Labour, state control is their solution to everything.

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      • 107
        Ed Knows Best says:

        Aye, add state media control to the list and there will be more and more from Ed Miliband. He knows what’s good for you.

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  37. 106
    Britain Deserves Better says:

    The rent ceiling falls in on Labour

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  38. 109
    C O (Ξ7r1) says:

    If more houses are not going to be constructed, then immigration needs to be massively reduced.

    The cost of accommodation cannot be sustained above the average level that the economy enables local people to afford for long.

    The current prices are being sustained by unsustainable increases in domestic debt burden, and money from foreign sources which is simply not available to local people.

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  39. 112
    C.O.Jones says:

    If they really wanted to have affordable housing they should look to America.

    Trailer Parks cater for those on low incomes. Its affordable to those on low incomes and they have a roof over their heads and a home to go to. Well insulated so cheap to heat and run.
    As most low income people depend on rent assistance this would reduce the cost to the taxpayer as well.

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    • 115
      Owen Jones says:

      Council houses are a better idea except instead of being allocated to people who choose to do bugger all except knock out kids as they do now allocate them to people who work in low paid jobs.
      Scrap working tax credits and use getting a council house with a low rent and assured tenancy as an incentive to work.
      Save the trailer parks for the chavs who still refuse to work.

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    • 117
      what's in a name says:

      the thing about electric cars and modern materials and wot not is the huge amounts of energy that goes into the manufacture, whereas building in wood and mud is very efficient I think. If we could just get the population down to a manageable number by sensible eugenics, with what we know now about medicine, telecommunications, space exploration and stuff the country could be quite a nice place to live by living in a harmony with nature and using technology only where required.

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  40. 114
    Paxo says:

    Good for Ed abandoning the middle ground and embracing left wing ideology.
    Now if only the Tories would do the same and embrace right wing policies voters would know where they stand.

    This middle ground obsession started by Blair has produced nothing but confusion two wars and the worst recession since 1929.

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  41. 122
    Bonar Law says:

    No, NOT “A spokesperson for RICS tells Guido….” You mean, “A SPOKESMAN for RICS….” Cut out the political correctness!

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  42. 123
    Gerhard says:

    Cap rent rises and landlords will impose higher starting rents to compensate.

    The policy would only make things worse for the people it aims to help.

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    • 128
      Jim says:

      It is an Election gimmick, it is not meant to help people.
      If you want to help the homeless build some social housing.

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  43. 127
    screwtape013 says:

    Q1 – If this were the Tories, and even more especially UKIP, would this be a main story, if not the lead story, on BBC TV evening news?

    Q2 – It’s Labour, though, so will any BBC mention of it be made in any broadcast?

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