April 28th, 2014

UKIP Stealing 1 in 5 2010 Labour Voters

Labour are getting spooked by the rise of Red UKIP. Ed’s British guru Lord Glasman used his interview with the Sunday Times to warn middle-class metropolitan Miliband that he is haemorrhaging working class votes to Farage:

“This is a long-term trend since 2001, in terms of the working-class vote just declining quite dramatically. The Labour middle-class vote held up [in 2010]. It was the working-class vote that died. These are often people who are earning, who have jobs, but they don’t see Labour as representing their interests. There was possibly an assumption at first that [the rise of Ukip] would just work against the Tories. But there is a view that says that after the European and local elections are over, there could be a swing back to the Conservatives of Ukip voters. But will there be necessarily a swing back to Labour from the Ukip voters?”

Do the numbers back him up? 

YouGov’s poll this weekend found that almost one in five of Labour’s 2010 voters said they would be voting UKIP on May 22. One in ten Labour 2010 voters said they would vote UKIP in 2015. That said UKIP is still hurting the Tories and LibDems far more. Just 46% of Tory 2010 voters are sticking with Dave for the Euros. The same number have defected to UKIP…


186 Comments

  1. 1
    Shooty* says:

    “But Maurice, we’re NOT the working class party any more. There’s no future in that. They’re doomed. We’re the pro-kaliphate party now. That’s where the future, and the postal votes, is. Didn’t you get the memo?”

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      call me dave says:

      I’m surprised that any working class people vote Labour any more, bearing in mind their utter contempt for the working classes, as typified by Brown’s disgusting remarks made to a decent working class woman in Rochdale four years ago. That wasn’t a one -off remark, that is what New Labour think all the time.

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      • 51
        Special people says:

        The read the mirror (lips moving) and believe every nonsense word of it.

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        • 108
          Just Saying says:

          Labour certainly believe the BBC and Guardian.
          The “werking” class as the BBC derogerately call them, are a dying breed replaced by chavs and an underclass who invariably vote Labour.
          Much of the genuine working class have upgraded to what we used to call lower middle class. Their voting habits are not fully researched and getting the BBC, LSE, Guardian, Liverpool and Manchester universities et al to do the research is a simply a lesson in biased non-research and a waste of money.

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          • Aardvark says:

            Well said

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          • Anonymous says:

            Labour voters now mostly constitute the following groups: the unemployable, those with more than 6 kids, immigrants with passports, non existent postal voters, subsidised union workers, people whose only footwear is a pair of trainers, mussies, and / or stupid people.

            Note working class people are not listed, they are deserting Liebor faster than a group of illegal immigrants jumping off a lorry at Dover freight terminal.

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      • 161
        thostids says:

        So no difference with the Tories and their regular electors? Serious miscalculation that the PBI only had one enemy. You’ve all been happily pissing off the voters, stealing the petty cash, paying other people to do the work and, suddenly, the PBI from both sides have got together and decided to sod the old game of soldiers.
        They’re going piss their MPs off and give UKIP the chance to play silly buggers.
        That Europe job just isn’t going to drop lucky with the Fixed Term Parliament. Cojones Clegg will have to stand down so Humper Hughes can get in to the Deputy position before the Sheffield voters get to give Clegg’s cojones to the winner.

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    • 41
      David Alexrod says:

      Is it a fact that Maurice Glasman is also J8wish?

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      • 71
        Dave Levita-Cameron says:

        Nonce Establishment’s riddled with the fuckers!

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        • 95
          Aardvark says:

          You must be a very sad, lonely, unhappy man to write so many messages about ethnic origin.

          Don’t you have any friends, anything in your life that’s positive besides writing race posts?

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          • Winston Smith says:

            Yes much better to hide such facts as they have absolutely no relevance to the political direction of this country or the US in its foreign and domestic policies.

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          • Aardvark says:

            Don’t you have anything better in your life to do besides repeat racist conspiracies?

            Is your life really so empty and meaningless?

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      • 173
        David Cameron Is A Cunt says:

        What difference would it make if he was then fuckwit?

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    • 79
      Enquirer says:

      “Stealing”

      Do the Labour party actually own the working class then?

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    • 162
      broderick crawford says:

      GLEN MILLERBAND SAYS

      I think it might be time for Moonlight Serenade ….. Or possibly Goodnight Vienna.

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  2. 2
    Aardvark says:

    Ungrateful bastards.

    Flood working class areas with millions of 3rd world people from countries that resemble open sewers, open the borders to millions of EU immigrants who’ll work for nothing. And what thanks does Labour get.

    Its enough to break your heat.

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    • 4
      Pedant says:

      My heat is broken. I need a new boiler.

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      • 9
        Aardvark says:

        You’re obviously a bigot and a closet racist.

        Vote Labour.

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      • 15
        A Corgi says:

        One new boiler coming up!

        Thanks to Red Ed and his Climate Change Act, everyone will be having new boilers every five years. Good for business, innit.

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        • 28
          jgm2 says:

          Up in Fucking Scotland you can get an entire new heating system installed free. Some might say such largesse is a result of the extra 2K per person per year that they have to piss around but the S&P prefers to spin it as making better use of their resources.

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          • Pedant says:

            Mind you, the weather up there is crap.

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          • jgm2 says:

            True. But the easiest way to fix that is to leave. As millions have done.

            Indeed it is only the recent influx of immigrants that has stemmed the decades long slump in population in Fucking Scotland.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Yes, but you get your reliable old boiler replaced with the latest overcomplicated condensing treehugger crap.

            Lots of people around here went for it just before the last hard winter. They spent the winter freezing because the condensate drains froze up and wrecked their new boilers. A heating system which is wrecked by cold weather, has to be a green initiative.

            And if you don’t do it you get bombarded with junk phone calls from cowboys trying to get you to buy into it.

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        • 89
          The most amusing claim ever says:

          I had our old boiler replaced after almost 25 years. The new condenser bolier cost around £2,500 excluding fitting etc according to the plumber will last 10 years if you are lucky and nearer 7 years so forget about freezing energy bills we are all paying for Miliband’s Climate Change Act every 7 – 10 years

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          • Double Gloucester says:

            Our boiler is 39 years old and still going strong. I am helping the environment by not buying a new one. The environmental cost of manufacturing a new boiler far outweighs any gains from its greater energy efficiency over its 7-10 year life.

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          • alexsandr says:

            buy a bosch

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          • Old Codger says:

            I have had my old boiler for 44 years and is still going strong although not quite as effecient as in earlier years. But still manages to cook all my meals, do the housework and maintain a full time job. Bless her.

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          • stushie says:

            condensing boilers are a CON .They require £200 p.a. maintenance plus they may last 7 years as the heat exchanger has a 7 yr. design life. Miliband & Prescott stuffed the consumer .

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    • 12

      For the want of an “r”, a bloody good rant was lost.

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      • 19
        Reality Cheque says:

        The utter delight of our language.

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      • 33
        Pedant says:

        I agreed with the sentiment but fancied a bit of light relief.

        Now where did I put those tissues…

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        • 44
          DK says:

          spampon: n. A ball of absorbent shitscrape inserted under a chap’s fiveskin during his unclean times. ‘Did awaken late in the night and, unable to get back to my slumbers, did decide to perform an act of personal delight upon my turgid membrum virile. Thus resolv’d, I betook myself off to the earth closet with a tallow candle, my looking spectacles and the latest copy of Enrazzlement. I had been ensconced in there fully five minutes, vouchsafing it half a dozen to nothing on my aged knobkerrie over the most comely centrefold, and was at the praxiomatic point of discharging my foul seed when Jane banged on the earth closet door to tell me of a great fire that hadst been seen in the City.I was forced quickly to fashion myself a series of small spherules of vellum, or spampons, which I did insinuate round the brim of my farmer’s hat to prevent any of my base spendings from leaking therefrom. By and by Jane did come and tell me that she heard that above 300 houses had been burned down in the night by the fire we saw, and that it is now burning down all Fish Street, by London Bridge. There was nothing to do, so I went and had another wank.’ (from The Diary of Samuel Pepys, September 2nd 1666).

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        • 65
          Fluorescent tube says:

          Oh no, not abuse again!

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        • 66
          Mark Oaten says:

          Light relief? Hiya

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        • 86
          BBC politikal korrectness kommittee says:

          Light relief?

          Just make sure it is a low-energy bulb you will be sent to the gulag for re-educayshun

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    • 163
      broderick crawford says:

      Talking of open sewers did we all know that in the days when Middle Eastern potentates and their subjects were regaled with the first considerable flushes of oil revenues and started to travel in the mis Sixties there were substantiated instances of these same occupying five star hotel suites in Boulevard Haussmann and Park Lane without ever having been tutored in the function of a toilet bowl and cistern.

      Accordingly cleaning maids who refurbished the rooms next morning found
      ” interesting challenges ” on the deep pile carpet in the corners of the main bedrooms…

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  3. 3
    Fed up says:

    We’ll be hearing less talk of fruitcakes and loonies I reckon.

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  4. 5
    left wing, right wing, tis all the same bird! (a turkey) says:

    Everyone!

    just keep doing what you are doing..

    when 2015 comes along and UKIP realise the popular vote, the LibLabCON will be shown for the sham that it is……

    THEN CHANGE WILL OCCUR.

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  5. 6
    Lord Mandelson of Guacomole says:

    The peasants are revolting

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  6. 7
    Anonymous says:

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    • 13

      Foot-in-mouth disease is endemic in Ed’s Bandwagon Party.

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    • 16
      del boy says:

      So you make some money by dodging and dealing, then you move it around by dodging and dealing to minimise your tax bill.

      If you didn’t do a bit of dodging and dealing in the first place then there would be nothing to tax.

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    • 53
      No way says:

      That photo doesn’t do her repulsive fat ugliness any justice. Was it touched up a bit?

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    • 57
      jgm2 says:

      @edballs is completely off the radar. Has been for about six months.

      Is he ‘doing a Brown’ and hiding in anticipation of some clusterfuck coming home to roost?

      I think he is.

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      • 88
        Olly Garks of the former USSR says:

        Badger Darling would be a sounder less maniacal purse holder but don’t tell Millie.

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          jgm2 says:

          I agree. Although he too, with his massive London property empire paid for by flipping and refurbishing his various flats on expenses is also tainted by Brown’s decision to squander 60bn quid propping up the value of Labour MP’s property portfolios.

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        • 156
          Anonymous says:

          The former Marxist and Trotskyite was very keen on “road pricing” when he was Transport secretary. The donkey in a red rosette brigade should know that will be on the cards for them if son of Adolphe makes it into power next year.

          …er.. vote UKIP always, the Tories are just blue Labour.

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          • David Cameron Is A Cunt says:

            The Tories under Cameron are indeed Blue Labour, but he can’t cling on much longer and provided that he isn’t replaced by the equally lefty, equally guilty equally rich, posh boy, Boris Johnson, then the Tories might return to their natural place right of the so called centre ground and so regain the disaffected real Conservatives who are draining off to UKIP.

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          • Anonymous says:

            The Tories under Cameron or Boris will be out of power for ten next 15 years.

            Cameron’s lie upon lie upon lie, and spin over spin over spin has reduced the party to mere offshoot of the liberal democrats with a left leaning tendency.

            And god forbid if Boris of the answer then the question must be how do we really destroy the conservatives, I know with Boris, another lying traitorous cnuting, lefty posh boy Eton privileged arrogant metropolitan bleeding heart liberal, that’s how !

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      • 122
        Salmon the Alex says:

        He will surface just before the 2015 election with a pledge to cancel HS2 and spend the money on party hats, pensions, education and healthcare for everyone who votes for him. Labour supporting HS2 today is stopping the Tories breaking the piggy bank.

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    • 58
      Will says:

      Emily would that be the Labour Party that accepted a donation of £1,000,000 from bernie eccleston over the banning of cigarette advertising in f1 but had to give it back when found out ???

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    • 61
      Bessie Braddock lives. says:

      That photos been fiddled with. She is at least 3 to 4 stone fatter.

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    • 111
      Just Asking says:

      I cannot understand why Labour did not give a knighthood to Bernie Eccles.
      He would surely be better in the HoL than Lard Pressclot and other Labour incompetents?

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  7. 8
    tigerowl says:

    Working class people voting for a party that opposes working rights? Must be a lot of stupid people around.

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    • 34
      jgm2 says:

      28% at the last election.

      An imbecile destroys the UK economy, borrows 60bn from the taxpayer to prop up the value of him and his mates housing portfolios, and still 28% of people vote to keep him in power.

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    • 43
      peoples representitive of doncaster says:

      and you’re one of them,because it doesn’t

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      • 72
        BBC News and Propaganda Unit says:

        The people will do what we tell them.
        Now shut up and hand over your telly tax.

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      • 90
        Peoples' representitive of twatcaster says:

        You vill not vork for more zan 48 hours a week, even if you dezperately need ze munny!

        If you do, you vill be shot!

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  8. 9
    Tim Far-Off says:

    Don’t write the Lib Dems off just yet!

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  9. 11
    Welshracer says:

    Why can’t articles stick to one measurement?

    this 1 in 5 and then using %

    Please stick to one measurement

    Thank you.

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    • 21

      This is not Tesco’s. Most of Guido’s customers are numerate.

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      • 40
        jgm2 says:

        I’m numerate and that is still a shit graphic. No label on the y-axis.

        What is instructive is the number of LibDems who plan to vote UKIP. That suggests that many of the LibDem voters (who, by splitting the anti Brown vote meant we ended up with a coalition) are just as likely to be UKIP voters (ie naturally right wing) as Labour voters.

        Those are the voters CMD has to hope return to the fold if he’s to hold off the Little Imbecile.

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          C O (Ξ7q1) says:

          It is interesting to note that the Conservative vote has been pretty much split in half, whilst over a third of Labours 2010 support has apparently gone to UKIP and the LD’s equally.

          The Labour split could imply a polarization along socio-economic lines, or ideological. That is important considering the extremist left wing that is concealed within Labour, and who are growing more uncomfortable with the centre left liberal stance that the party is trying to offer.

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          • Just Asking says:

            I find it difficult to believe that any Conservative voters would change to Labour. I am afraid I just do not believe these UK polls as the integrity of the information is always in question.

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        • 159
          The Werking Class says:

          We hate the Tories. We don’t hate UKIP yet as they haven’t been oppressing us. So , we might vote for them – though I hear “Eastenders” is to feature a former Nazi Extermination camp commandant who is the local UKIP candidate round there.

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      • 165
        NE Frontiersman says:

        A bad comparison. To juggle in your head Tesco’s hopping between units to confuse price comparisons would tax Leibnitz.

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    • 133
      Anonymous says:

      Austism rights.

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  10. 14
    Winston says:

    Anyone that does not believe in the One Govt conspiracy, look at this:

    http://www.w4mpjobs.org/JobDetails.aspx?jobid=45223

    http://international-alert.org/donors-and-partners

    Vote UKIP to win back democracy from the Corporate Socialists.

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  12. 18
    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    UKIP should be cautious about letting Labour defectors into their party machinery.

    The left have a habit of releasing supporters as trojan horses to disrupt their competition.

    It would be interesting to see if with the Labour defection to UKIP there are any militant type incidents committed in the name of that party. If there are, then it will be case closed what strategy Labour and the left are employing to deal with their competition.

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  13. 20
    Don't forget LB Day on Twitter on May 3 says:

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  14. 23
    lojolondon says:

    The question now is whether Guido will be the first major news/blogging source to support UKIP?
    Will the pro-UKIP pressure from readers prevail, or is there too much snobby/social pressure from Westminster and the MSM?

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    • 30
      Rupe says:

      Gildo becomes the Kingmaker. I concede.

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    • 32
      C O (Ξ7q1) says:

      Do not believe Guido would sacrifice his journalistic integrity that way.

      He recovered well after being led up the garden path by The Times the other week – kudos.

      UKIP are great – but any wrong doing on their part will likely be impartially broken here first, and maintaining that position is perhaps more important as UK politics goes through transition.

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    • 37
      Gunpowder says:

      Does Guido want the blow up the inside of parliament – or the outside? Not as clear cut as it once was. It seems no one can resist… the Bubble!

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    • 74
      Gerbil 7 says:

      I imagine this blog supports anything that undermines politics however, as UKIP is itself a party, this blog will do its best to undermine it, hence the apparently schizophrenic attitude to UKIP criticism.
      Clear enough?

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      • 100
        Gunpowder says:

        Not really. The UKIP phenomenon is largely a result of Guido’s hugely influential role in cocking a very large and very public snoot at the LibLabCon. Is he bottling it at the last hurdle? I’d imagine the elite club’s ‘incentives’ to do so must be considerable.

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        • 138
          (That's enough Eds, Ed!) says:

          Er, that’s “snook” not “snoot”. Hugely appealing word though, “snoot”. I wonder what it means?

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        • 171
          Multi names says:

          Gildo and his large band of clever witty and free thinking contributors, don’t you know.

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    • 98
      Rupee says:

      Guido will do whatever pays the best.

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  15. 25
    A Ship's Lawyer says:

    If the argument is that Ecclestone has been on the fiddle then surely any money he has come by must by definition be suspect.

    Along comes a Government and wants to tax the self same money even more.

    Is this not in breach of money laundering regulations ?

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    • 178
      John Bellingham says:

      Nothing dodgy about Bernie. His tax deal was all above board and he paid Tony Blair a million quid for it so everything is square.
      Well, a million quid on the books, anyway.

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  16. 26
    Sarah Millington says:

    Is anyone really surprised?

    The working class are despised by the Tories & Labour.

    UKIP are destroying the cosy consensus between tweedle dumb in the red corner & tweedle dumber in the blue corner – excellent.

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    LibLabCon/MSM EU Election Campaign Grid says:

    28th April: Attack UKIP.
    29th April: Attack UKIP.
    30th April: Attack UKIP.
    1st May: Attack UKIP.
    2nd May: Attack UKIP.
    3rd May: Attack UKIP.
    4th May: Attack UKIP.
    5th May: Attack UKIP.
    6th May: Attack UKIP.
    7th May: Attack UKIP.
    8th May: Attack UKIP.
    9th May: Attack UKIP.
    10th May: Attack UKIP.
    11th May: Attack UKIP.
    12th May: Attack UKIP.
    13th May: Attack UKIP.
    14th May: Attack UKIP.
    15th May: Attack UKIP.
    16th May: Attack UKIP.
    17th May: Attack UKIP.
    18th May: Attack UKIP.
    19th May: Attack UKIP.
    20th May: Attack UKIP.
    21st May: Attack UKIP.
    22nd May: Attack UKIP.

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    • 38
      Why UKIP will then win... says:

      Where do the other parties find time in the news cycle to present their Euro election manifestos ? :-)

      Vote UKIP.

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    • 50
      Democracy says:

      23rd May: Attack UKIP
      etc
      etc

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      • 77
        a voter says:

        Every time I see UKIP and Farage being attacked it
        only strengthens my resolve to vote for them. I
        suspect many other voters feel exactly the same.

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      • 85
        Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

        25th May: Say that UKIP coming first with 50% of the vote is just a protest vote and voters will return to the fold next May.

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      • 87
        The most amusing claim ever says:

        The result wont be declared until Sunday 25 May as most other EU members states vote on Sunday so the chattering classed will have the Bank Holiday w/end to come to terms with the expected tsunami

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        • 107
          Swivel Eye'd Loon says:

          The Bank Holiday weekend is needed to extract all the UKIP votes from the ballot boxes and to replace them with postal votes, Stupid – Do keep up!

          (It worked in Ireland’s referendum)

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        • 132
          Anonymous says:

          Hardly. EU elections are a complete non-event.

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    • 78
      BBC says:

      I say, who left our news brief on the photocopier?

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    Rupe says:

    Dame Tessa Jowett, a more acceptable face for most, was most honest last night.

    When door stepping the usual parties and their messengers are being trashed big time by everybody. They are sick of the big three and irritated. She does not get to talk issues as the door slams.

    Most telling I think and a sure sign of big trouble for the Wimp. It ain’t 1997, for sure.

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  19. 42
    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    Oprah, a few years ago, presented the LibLabCon’s Euro Election Campaign…

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    lojolondon says:

    PS. Guido, your bias showing again – when voters turn from one political party to another they feel better represents them, is it common practice to describe the process as ‘Stealing’ votes?

    Surely these votes have been earned, not stolen??

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      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

      Exactly, if i lose something it does not mean it’s been stolen.

      The LibLabCon are losing voters because they are not listening to their concerns.

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  21. 47
    Rupe says:

    The Alf Garnett vote contingent have had no one for years. Mistrustful of a toff like Nigel in the past, they now see what the fuss is about as the fog lifts from their eyes and they see daily the New England which from the news seems to resemble some shithole in the Africa/ME/ South Asia mooz handout states.

    They see the last chance saloon and enter.

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  22. 48
    Heil says:

    Ah. Nationalism and socialism.

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  23. 54
    Moley says:

    It is time that advertisers demanded a reduced rate for advertising in those media outlets which attack UKIP at every opportunity.

    After all, if your newspaper constantly insults you with accusations of racism and lunacy, you are not going to feel all that kindly disposed towards those products advertised in it; you might in fact feel repelled by those advertisements and be less likely to buy those products.

    The media will pay a very high price for alienating a significant, (if not majority) section of its readership.

    It is simply not credible that UKIP is the only Political party whose candidates are open to criticism. The reputation that is being obliterated is not UKIP’s, it is the media’s.

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  24. 55
    Gimpy Ed says:

    Think I’m fucked.

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    • 59
      Olly Garks of the former USSR says:

      Join the club, comrade Tony should us a path out.

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    • 93
      PDubya says:

      It’s your turn Ed. You and Labour fcuked us for 13 years under Tone and Gordon’s reign of terror and now the boot is on the other foot.

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  25. 68
    RED ED - SON OF BROWN says:

    WUNNAAAYSHUN !!!!!!!!!

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  26. 69
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    Another great reason for the Scots to vote YES to independence is that they will no longer have to put up with being ruled by a Tory government.

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    • 81
      The most amusing claim ever says:

      Or the rUK with Labour either as at a stroke they would lose 41 MPs

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    • 91
      jgm2 says:

      The schadenfreude of seeing them bank*ru*pt*ed as S&P and Labour engage in an arms race of promising more and more free stuff to the ever grasping doletariate and vast public sector in Fucking Scotland will indeed be a joy to behold.

      Fucking Scotland.

      Greece. Without the sunshine.

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  27. 73
    Mark Menzies,Moderator says:

    Tom Daley finished fifth in the London Diving World Series.

    He obviously has no problem coming behind four men.

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  28. 75
    Hate filled, racist, misogonistic, deranged, psychotic and lazy, troughing UKIP candidate says:

    they all seem foreign muck to me

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  29. 82
    Owen Jones,Socialist turned Capitalist says:

    There is nothing good about Islam. In Islamic states, women, gay people and non-muslims have no rights and are targeted with verbal and physical abuse by the muslims – not to mention the on going conflicts in alot of muslim majority countries around the world. Since 9/11, muslims have carried out over 22,000 terrorist attacks around the world. Religion of peace? I don’t think so.

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  30. 94
    Ed Miliband says:

    Jawohl !

    Former Nazi wins a Labour council seat – Milton Keynes Citizen:

    http://www.miltonkeynes.co.uk/news/local/former-nazi-wins-a-labour-council-seat-1-3826439#.U14qFFp_jlY.twitter

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    • 121
      SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

      What a good thing he isn’t a UKIP councillor, there wouldn’t be enough newsprint to cover the story,or enough airtime on the BBC , the coverage would be relentless!

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    • 131
      U can't make it up says:

      Former Nazi and animal rights terrorist who served jail time for attacking a butchers shop becomes Labour Councillor.

      Sounds looney enough to fit right in. Yeeeeesss so why isn’t this headline news?

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    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    @OR: More on the global warming de-bolloxed…

    Calculated the average yearly ICOADS (SST) temperatures by regional breakdown – Hemispheres divided into tropical and non-tropical + overall, the tropics and the two hemipheres combined (global).

    Some very whacky results during WWII years – reflective of the massive impact on shipping which occurred then (as can be seen directly in the 1940’s videos I posted to uTube), but some qualitative observations may be made comparing to the CRUTEM4.2 (land) data.

    The northern and southern tropics channel the tropics above and below as per the CRUTEM data. There is no obvious upward trend in the IOCADS data for the tropics, in fact the trend appears to be downwards from a peak in 1993 – overall it appears flat since 1931 with tighter convergence of north / south tropics to the overall tropics mean.

    Patterns seen with warmer southern hemisphere than northern are seen, but ICOADS tracks the non tropical southern hemisphere as being on average colder than it tracks the non tropical northern.

    ICOADS agrees with CRUTEM that the SH is warmer on average than the Northern, the global mean channels between those two values.

    ICOADS mean data for non-tropical is about 5 degrees above that determined from CRUTEM: Tropical data appears to be about 1-2 degrees above that reported by CRUTEM.

    If regional averages for land and SST are combined, this will raise the apparent temperature of the non tropical regions appreciably compared to the temperatures recorded by land stations.

    The disparity on the warmer non-tropical values – as evidenced by the locations of the measurement points – agrees with the notion that ICOADS ship data is biased upwards as a result of vessels preferring warmer areas.

    That certainly does not translate into any warming trends, and no such trend is apparent in the ICOADS data. If anything there is a slight hint that there could be a very slight harmonic pattern with period of just over 82 years and amplitude of 4 degs C exhibited for both the Southern and Nothern non tropical regions.

    Overall, the data for the non tropical regions (excluding the period of WWII) is much noisier than the CRUTEM data: That may be a result of the greater variation in data point location, and variations in the number of data points available by location. (Ships move, and economic effects such as booms and recessions prior to fixed buoys affects greatly the number of measurement points and their density over time).

    If interested, raw data for yearly averages – SST / CRUTEM – I have posted here:

    http://pastebin.com/4w1HhWaZ

    Worth knocking up a plot if you have a few minutes to spare in Excel.

    Have also uploaded 28 through 30 – to uTube – that covers 2008 to 2013.

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    Nigel Farage says:

    Thoroughly enjoyed watching Esther McVey get flame grilled slowly on the news this morning. Lying, victimizing, sanctimonious cow.

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  33. 101
    Mad, Bad & Dangerous Gordon McRuin ( Member in absentia ) says:

    Just keep saying, ‘BRITISH JOBS FOR BRITISH WORKERS’ !

    The idiots believe that :)

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  34. 109
    Send them all to Syria to fight with their brothers says:

    Any more m*****s from the UK killed in Syria this week? I’m still celebrating the death of the last one.

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      Anonymous says:

      Some of the ones who turned up in Iraq tried surrendering to the British Army when they realised they had lost, they met with an unfortunate accident.

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  35. 112
    CCHQ says:

    Prime Minister David Cameron said: “Nigel Farage is making these UKIP policies on the hoof.”

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  36. 115
    Frank's Son says:

    Guido still clutching at straws. He’s hoping that UKIP voters will suddenly vote Tory in the GE while those who previously voted Labour will remain with UKIP. Desperate stuff, Guido. Cameron will not be PM in June 2015. Stop deluding yourself. UKIP, I believe, will retain a very high percentage of the voting public they have now. BOTH Tory and Labour secretly panicing.

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  37. 117
    bergen says:

    Ever since Clegg thought he’d dug a bear trap for Farrage but fell in it himself, I’ve been looking forward to the Euros.

    The recriminations are going to be funny to watch. Everyone will blame Clegg (especially his own euro-fanatics). Milliband will hope his 35% core vote plan will still work on a split vote next year and Cameron won’t have a clue how to react.

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    • 127
      Big Momma says:

      Interesting that the anti EC Brussels crowd have grown significantly in Germany, Holland and France, as well as of course Hungary.
      Could be interesting in the coming elections in all European countries.

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  38. 119
    Generation W says:

    The bedwetters begat another generation of bedwetters

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  39. 120
    Ordinary Joe. says:

    An example of the complete lack of commonsense by the PC chatterati elite:

    A triple killer has been awarded £800 by a judge for damage to his nose hair clippers and other trivial items. The Prison Ombudsman had previously offered the murderous tosser £10. Incidentally the man had previously also attacked and injured 3 Prison Officers.

    Is it any wonder that voters are rejecting the ConLibLabbers en masse?

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    • 136
      xplod says:

      Solution? Double-tap the twat, save us all a lot of money. Be worth the couple of days hand-wringing from the lefties, do-gooders and others of that ilk. It’ll also show we’ve grown some, and are no longer to be treated as a doormat.

      Just my tuppen’uth….

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  40. 126
    Owen Jones,Socialist turned Capitalist says:

    Blair’s mates in Egypt must have set some sort of Guinness record so far in terms of numbers of people sentenced to death. Great stuff,keep it going.

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  41. 137
    Peter Grimes says:

    This is why NuLaBor opened our doors to millions of benefit-chasing immigrants. Pure gerrymandering. THEY are their new constituents, and the few net taxpayers are the people sustaining them.

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  42. 142
    Village Idiot says:

    ..Daily Politics, the three main parties were eating themselves over Europe and the UKIP rep,mr Flynn,did not have to do anything to win the argument,amazing how out of touch the main parties are,and in denial,brilliant!
    …Try as Coburn might,she never laid a finger on UKIP,quite the reverse!

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  43. 143
    Nigel Farage doppelganger says:

    UKIP do not steal any votes, people give them to us of free will.
    Labour Party has long forgotten what the working class want.

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  44. 144
    Olly Garks of the former USSR says:

    Cheryl Gill an, snob and vested.

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  46. 160
    Patsy & Pansy says:

    So what do Labour have to offer the working class?

    The Nepotist ‘Patsy’ Straw & call me ‘Pansy’ Jones muddle class politics. Both are wet behind the ears.

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