April 28th, 2014

Boris: Quit EU if Renegotiation Fails

Guido was a little surprised when earlier this month Louise Mensch described Boris as amassive Europhile, insisting he “would not leave [the EU] under any circumstances” and that his “hardcore pro-EU” position meant he could never lead the Tories. That wasn’t the Boris Guido remembered. And it isn’t exactly the sentiment reflected in his withering eurosceptic attack on the EU in today’s Telegraph.

Boris condemns the upcoming Euro elections as a “complete sham” and says that the EU is a racket”. He makes clear he would leave the EU if renegotiation fails: “It may indeed come to that, if we cannot get what we need in a renegotiation”, and describes Britain staying in the European Parliament as “a growing if”. He concludes: “Euro-scepticism is rampant in large parts of Europe, and cynicism about the parliament is at an all-time high. I see no reason at all why Britain should not lead the way”. Boris is more in the Farage mould – he loves Europe but doesn’t like the EU…


129 Comments

  1. 1
    All things to all men says:

    Maybe this has something to do with it…

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/04/25/uk-eu-courts-britain-idUKBREA3O02020140425

    EU court to rule on UK challenge to transaction tax

    Britain may lose its challenge to stop plans by 11 euro zone countries to tax financial transactions when the European Union’s top court rules next week, lawyers said on Thursday.

    Britain is challenging an EU decision allowing the group of EU members to push ahead with their plans to tax stock, bond and derivatives trades to help make banks pay for the public money they received in the 2007-09 financial crisis.

    I always wondered whether Farage was a shill (Machurian candidate?) for The City of London.

    He is a libertarian after all.

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      What happened to the Common Market? says:

      WTF has this got to do with banana standards?

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      • 10
        A trader says:

        It’s more about banana futures ;)

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        • 13
          drug addict says:

          this could lead to a banana split

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        • 14
          A trader says:

          …than banana standards!

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          • Flying Teddy says:

            and a Banana republic of Europe

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          • Rickytshirt says:

            A potential banana skin for the Government.

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          • Lib dem supporter says:

            ….At least the colour is “Yellow”…

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          • VelvetChasm says:

            The Mensch female is right: Boris is a fucking idiot and couldn’t be trusted not to get us deeper into the European quagmire.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Exactly, Boris can’t be trusted any more than Cameron.

            I seek to remember Cameron not that long ago saying we needed to cut immigration and leave the EU, now Cameron says he is happy with uncontrolled immigration from the EU and if there was a vote on the EU, Cameron has clearly said a number of times he would vote to stay in.

            Any mildly Eurosceptic electioneering by Boris is just that, electioneering or lies by any normal persons standards.

            Let is not forget Boris has said a number of times he supports an amnesty for illegal immigrants.

            This is not the sort of man who is faithful. Or who is going to lead the Conservatives out of the EU.

            Boris is however, the sort of man who is an old Eton and University chum of Cameron’s, he is part of the liberal elite who are massively wealthy, you only have to read his sisters articles to see how nauseatingly liberal and privileged she is, he is desperate to wield his power in the HoC, he is a serial adulterer and one can only assume a serial liar.

            As such Boris will do or say anything to further his political ambitions, quite simply he is of the same mold (mould….) as Cameron, he is a liar and cannot be trusted.

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          • JadedJean16 says:

            Well said Anonymous

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      • 30
        Doh! says:

        Boris represents the interests of the City (only) and Farage/UKIP are the vehicle to deliver their objective i.e The City out of the EU -> avoid the transaction tax.

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        • 97
          NE Frontiersman says:

          That would be very shortsighted. If a transaction tax were made revenue-neutral by reducing corporation tax, the City’s reputation would be enhanced, by shaking out some of the spivs.

          Currently it depends on income from churning nebulous products that until Labour’s pro-gambling offensive ran the risk of collapsing if somebody one day refused to pay up on the grounds that they had simply made a bet.

          When a high percentage of the shares traded can be outvoted by dodgy oligarchs using massive financial power to stage a ramp or a run, only a fool would hope that his humble M+S shares will be at a realistic price the day he needs to sell.

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      • 82
        non taxable pikey says:

        Unfortunately now is not the time to go bananas. Bunchy top virus is killing them off.

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        • 90
          Village Idiot says:

          …Bit like the “Verticcilium Wilt” that destroyed a lot of Hops! (not sure of spelling)

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    • 32
      Reality Cheque says:

      Boz needs to clearly confirm his position, if true please step forward as the new leader with Nigel as deputy PM.

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      • 55
        Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

        And wait for the Boris smears to start. The MSM will crucify him.

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      • 94
        Village Idiot says:

        ….Renegotiation is NOT an option,Mrs Merkell told our leaders that is how it is, so,
        just leave and make deals when we are out!
        …We managed for a 1000 years without the EU and have been tied to the EU for app 40years,and look at it,it is crap for us,expensive,devisive and distant,leave without the pretence of a referendum,then negotiate!

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        • 118
          Anonymous says:

          Very true, Merkel was over here a couple of weeks ago spelling out very clearly how renegotiation is a complete non starter from her perspective, clearly renegotiation goes against every founding ounce of what the EU and ‘closer and closer integration’ has always been about.

          The only way to ‘force’ the EU to the negotiating table, is to serve a section 50 notice of the UKs intention to leave the EU, which starts a legally binding and formal process of leaving and negotiating the subsequent post EU exit trade deals.

          If we got half way to what Norway has we would be in an amazing situation, some mix of EFTA ( European free trade area) and or EEA.

          The biggest though, remains Cameron, for all his posturing he has still not set out what powers and controls he would like repatriated to the UK…. Silence….
          Meanwhile what Cameron has said a number of times is that, if there was a vote, he would vote to stay in the EU…

          Quite simply Cameron continues to say one thing (mild eurosceptisism) whilst doing another (sucking up to the EU and taking us further and further and further into the EU as he surrenders the UKs sovereignty at each and every opportunity he gets).

          Cameron is a liar and will never lift his little finger to help take the UK out of the EU. Voters would do well to remember that on the day of the General Election.

          They can think about the £60 million pounds per day the Uk spends on its membership of the EU, every day between now and the GE, and what better uses that money could be spent on.

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    • 53
      Richard Shunerry says:

      You need to refresh your understanding of the word “shill”.

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    • 119
      broderick crawford says:

      CREMANT D’ALSACE SAYS

      I wish you had told all your phillistine readers exactly what I am Boris .

      Your plebeian Torygraph readership wouldn t know the difference beteeen me and a creme caramele brulee if they made it themselves …God forbid .

      Oh and BTW BOJO … there are twenty EIGHT EU member states now ……Croatia that paragon if democratic virtue joined some months back .

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  2. 2
    Dave Levita says:

    oy vey! internecine Y*ddery!

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  3. 3
    Labour p*do protected by Blair cover-up says:

    You ain’t seem me. Right?

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    • 6
      Labour p*do protected by Blair cover-up says:

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      • 28
        dai salivating says:

        clive driscoll’s memoirs are going to be very valuable – perhaps they’ll have the effect on domestic policing that peter wright’s and others’ did on the post-war secret service scandals

        look forward to ‘levesons’ being issued by the dozen as the dept of cover-ups goes on the (very) offensive

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      • 103
        Anonymous says:

        Police identify 10 more suspects in Cyril Smith Lib Dem MP, paedo case.

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  4. 4
    HonestPolitician says:

    I like everything most people want, honest.

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  5. 5
    Henry says:

    Why do Westminster politicians still insist on pretending that the EU is about a free trade zone and not a political project to create a superstate?

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    • 12
      Veritaholic says:

      Because they can’t imagine that we don’t believe them.

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    • 39
      EUthenasia says:

      Correction, the EU is a Marxist political project to create a superstate.

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      • 99
        NE Frontiersman says:

        39: Some say it’s a Catholic one, to restore old Christendom. Witness the eastern advance into Uniate territory. The top-down bureaucratic structure is compatible with both.
        We need neither.

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        • 108
          Shooty* says:

          If it is, they’re not going very well. I fail to see how the constant encouragement of the religion of killing absolutely everyone… er… of peace, benefits either a leftist cause or a christian one.

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    • 110
      inside out says:

      Simple, its because when the UK electorate rejects them,they can look for a troughing job in the EU.

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  6. 7
    the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

    “Blair Blames Inquiry For Iraq Report Delay”

    Gosh!, I don’t know who to believe.

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  7. 8
    Cast Iron Boris says:

    I’ll say anything that khunt Cameron said to be PM and more!

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  8. 11
    Anonymous says:

    Boris is nothing more than a political oportunist

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  9. 15
    Bill Quango MP says:

    But..but..This is terrible.

    I heard that if we leave the EU 6,000,000 jobs will be lost and we won’t be able to trade with Europe or visit Europe or send a text to someone in Europe

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    • 23
      C O (Ξ7q1) says:

      The transaction tax would kill most of UK trade with Europe overnight.

      Exiting the EU would be a damage limitation exercise if the tax was introduced over there. Long term the consequences would still massively impact the UK.

      Introduction of such a tax the UK should consider an act of war.

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      • 62
        the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

        don’t you think you might be a little bit obsessive about going to war ?

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      • 70
        Wake up & vote UKIP says:

        Economic warfare – backed by France, Germany & 9 other member states.

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      • 104
        SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

        Why challenge the EU court, why not just tell them it will not apply to transactions within the UK . The city of London could destroy the EURO at a stroke .

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  10. 16
    Anonymous says:

    Louise Mensch is an airhead spouting whatever she thinks will make her popular.

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    • 18
      Phwooooar! says:

      But she’s well fit.

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      • 25
        jgm2 says:

        Since her facelift she looks like the bride of skeletor.

        For somebody who quit politics because she wanted to spend more time with her husband’s money in NY – handing Miliband the headline ‘Labour Gain’ – she spends an awful lot of time publicising herself and her poilitical views in the UK.

        Oi. Mensch. Fuck off.

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  11. 17
    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    Boris is not a leader, but would make someone a great deputy.

    The financial transaction tax will put business behind UKIP before he gets a chance to seek election as Prime Minister.

    Could UKIP work with Bojo, and vice versa ???

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  12. 20
    We'reallinthistogether says:

    .

    “He makes clear he would leave the EU if renegotiation fails: “It may indeed come to that, if we cannot get what we need in a renegotiation””

    Cameron clarity. Does the “may indeed come to that” come with a cast iron guarantee?

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  13. 21
    You'd think they could have chosen a better way of phrasing it says:

    Headline on BBC News website:

    Police probe ‘Cyril Smith cover-up’

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    • 31
      jgm2 says:

      By the time the BBC is finished with the ‘probe’ it will be all Fatcha’s fault. Just as Cameron somehow got blamed for all the phone hacking that was going on and being covered up by complicit Labour politicians and crooked police during the Imbecility.

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    • 37
      Mornington Crescent says:

      “Police vow to get to the bottom…”, perhaps?

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      • 47
        Jimmy Savile says:

        People said I was into necrophilia. They’re dead wrong. It’s all based on a grave misunderstanding. I make no bones about this issue when I say I undertake to keep my secrets buried.

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    • 41
      Ba Boom Tish says:

      And it would have had to be a big cover up to cover his bulk

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    • 91
      joolz says:

      And still nothing at all in the press about the Peodo ring in scotland. Holly Greig, just google and see WHO they are covering up for.

      Robert Green in prison again, this time so he could not give evidence!!

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  14. 22
    Mike Newland says:

    Just another trick. THEY will decide the renegotiations were a success whatever.

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    • 66
      CMDD, bleeder of the Nasty Party says:

      Its my master plan for EUSSR obfuscation, mendacity & manipulation……
      only someone as detached & aloof could consider this will be a resounding
      success, like my cast iron guarantee, just another mirage of epic proportions…..

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  15. 24
    Dark Forest says:

    That bloke who the West placed as the new leader in Ukraine, looks like something out of a brothers Grimm scary story.

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  16. 26
    Winston says:

    Utter cr@p Guido and you know it. Boris will say anything depending on his intended audience. Despite his unique personality, he’s as establishment, as they come.

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  17. 29
    Mornington Crescent says:

    “Boris is more in the Farage mould…”

    Oh, how I laughed at that one. Boris couldn’t lead his way out of a paper bag and simply says what people – particularly women – want to hear. He’s just cosying up to the media’s current poster boy.

    The mayorship and a weekly boring, formulaic Telegraph article is about the limit for Europhile, content-lite Johnson. He’s just another Establishment bore who has never truly been outside his London comfort zone in his life – read one of his books to see how people reacted to him on his first attempt to become an MP.

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    • 124
      Anonymous says:

      Or read is sisters excruciatingly smug and self satisfied newspaper articles, truly awful.

      If ever there was a smug champagne swilling metropolitan liberal, never more happy than dispensing the truth from her privileged position in a £8m mansion in Holland Park whilst wringing her hands, then it is Boris’s awful sister.

      Typical of her arrogance I hear she regularly walks her dog over Labroke Grove without a collar or lead… Selfish and arrogant behaviour.

      One can only assume it runs in the family.

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  18. 33
    Back1woodsman says:

    Do I detect a certain lack of consistency here, what with him thinking letting a bazzilion Turkish Muzzies join the EU is a good idea ?

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    • 85
      Victoria Nuland & Ann Applebaum says:

      Turkish muslins are very unlike Arab muslims, who generally regard them as not being real muslins at all. The Turks do not exhibit the same degree of !slamo-fashism one encounters in ie SA, despite the fashist leanings of Erdogan.

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      • 125
        Anonymous says:

        That’s ok then, let’s welcome them all in and give them a free council house and benefits and education and healthcare.

        Thank god you don’t work for the Government, on second thoughts you probably do !

        Give us strength from these traitors, please.

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  19. 34
    Winston says:

    Off topic, but there’s been yet another house fire, in which a whole family of muslims have been killed. Why is it always the women and children that die and never the husbands/fathers?

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    • 40
      Aunty Beeb says:

      Now Now Winston.

      You mustn’t make non PC racist remarks like that. You naughty boy.

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    • 43
      Ba Boom Tish says:

      Presumably if it was the whole family it would also include the husband / father ? Or it wouldn’t be the whole family. Just saying like.

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    • 50
      Reality Cheque says:

      Have it on good authority that often live with their girlfriends not the benny house.

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    • 51
      jgm2 says:

      One can only speculate.

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    • 67
      Faria Alam says:

      And the absence of smoke alarms.

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      • 72
        jgm2 says:

        If it’s a council house there will be smoke alarms fitted. Although the battery is probably in the remote control.

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        • 83
          Norma Stitz says:

          That’s a disgraceful smear jgm2. Smoke alarms use those little flat batteries, while remote controls use round ones. The smoke alarm battery was probably in a kid’s toy.

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        • 100
          Anonymous says:

          Council house smoke alarms are mains powered for exactly this reason – tenants regarding them as a great source of free batteries.

          They are often disabled in other ways to allow careless cooking and chain smoking etc.

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    • 74
      The MSM are cunts, but especially the BBC says:

      You should have heard the faux concern in Justin Webb’s voice of R4′s Toady prog this morning when trying to big this story up in advance of any facts being confirmed by the on-scene report.

      He is beyond contempt.

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      • 126
        Anonymous says:

        Maybe the women of the house didn’t want the kids to have their genitals mutilated so the Mussie father did the only honourable thing he could do and set them all on fire to cleanse their souls.

        Or maybe one of the daughters kissed a white man, so again the Mussie father dealt with it in an honourable way.

        Or maybe he didn’t do that and he isn’t to blame at at all.

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    • 111
      inside out says:

      Husband and fathers first,after all women are second class citizens in some countries and cultures.

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  20. 35
    Dave with the Shits says:

    Sam! Sam! Pass me another bog roll — I’ve run out again!

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  21. 36
    Pookie snackumberger says:

    **** Breaking news*****

    Boris, looks at polling for UKIP and decides to kick the EU can down the road.

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  22. 38
    So What? says:

    Anyone but Gay Dave.

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    • 42
      Gaystapo says:

      We’ve got you on our database. We’ll be coming round to your place early one morning soon. You will be eliminated.

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      • 48
        Reality Cheque says:

        Shouldn’t you be in the woods on a nice day like this? Ruining somebody’s walk and your hosts arse.

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      • 81
        Anonymous says:

        Just go round and pull out his broad band wires. He needs to get out the house.

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  23. 52
    John Tandy says:

    Absolutely…..

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  24. 59
    a lawyer trying to be helpful says:

    If you simply “leave” the EU then what do you do about all existing contracts, reciprocal agreements and the repatriation of millions of EU members both into and out of the UK ?

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    • 61
      jgm2 says:

      We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it.

      Same as Fucking Scotland jumping ship.

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    • 63
      Socialism is theft says:

      Easy. We would leave the EU at a certain date in the future in order to minimise any problems. I.e we would give notice to leave and get new contracts/arrangements prepared. No big deal. No need for any repatriation either.

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      • 76
        A Ship's Lawyer says:

        Do you really want Roumanian gypsies living in a car park near to you?

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        • 98
          Village Idiot says:

          ….We have laws to deal with that,we just need a law enforcement agency,say
          …The Police, to carry out their duties for the benefit of our nation and its’ inhabitants!

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    • 64
      Reality Cheque says:

      Keep the contracts you like, ditto entrants. Buy matches and book coaches for the rest. Next.

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      • 78
        A Bulgarian says:

        If you try to dump that contract with us for the supply of 200,000 new cars at below UK cost of production price then we will sue.

        Also we wont be having any of those gypsies back.

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    • 71
      Boot Fair says:

      As if a lawer would try to be helpful.

      Nah, more like oooh look at all the work coming our way when these contracts need sorting out.

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  25. 60
    Socialism is theft says:

    Like Cameron and the rest of the Liblabcon-men Boris will say one thing one day and the opposite the next. None are to be trusted.

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  26. 65
    Pookie snackumberger says:

    So the currant bun’s cartoon portrays Farage as a skinhead with all those silly cliché connotations it carries (mainly raceist).

    How out of touch they are; it has been long established that skinheads did more for Jamaicans living here, through the love of their music than any over-educated, pampered middle class lefties in the edl or swp.

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  27. 69
    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    The female ex-Nazi recently elected Labour councillor in M’ilton K’eynes sounds like she had an Ilsa fetish when younger.

    Good to see the comments on the piece in the M’ilton K’eynes citizen pointing out the errors in the report that state she was a far right extremist when a N’azi.

    As one points out, the transition from extreme left (of which Nazism is) to centre left – the politics she now practices as a Labour councillor – make more sense than the odd notion that she transition from far right to centre left.

    It is clear also in this context exactly the type of people who Ed Miliband was appealing to with his ‘One Nation’ mantra, but in their defence, Labour may have done a good job in moving the extreme far left in the UK to calmer centre ground

    It cannot be ignored that as a consequence Labour are the party which will contain a higher proportion of rac!sts and other persona-non-grata types than any other party, except perhaps the Greens and B-N-P.

    That should be kept firmly in mind when reading the smears about UKIP, and for that matter, the Conservatives.

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  28. 77
    UKIP the final solution says:

    “renegotiation”???

    Not that old pack of lies again. There can be and will be NO renegotiation on the terms of EU membership, there will be NO renegotiation on the principle of ever closer union leading to an EU superstate. The “renegotiation” myth is spread by the liberal regime in order to buy the years needed to force the UK into a political union and a vassal region of a foreign power.

    Bojo knows this full well, he is merely trying to fool voters into believing he is a eurosceptic just like his friend Honest Dave. Every EU kommissars has repeatedly stated quite openly “there will be NO renegotiating the core principles of the EU”. And yet again and again the deceitful Tories cling on to their lies and expect us to believe them.

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    • 80
      Dave "Del Boy" Cameron says:

      The art of successful negotiation is that if you want something you have to be prepared to give something in return.

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  29. 79
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    Another great reason for the Scots to vote YES to independence is that they will never again have to put up with being ruled by a Tory government.

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    • 101
      Anonymous says:

      Haven’t been ruled by a Tory government for many years. Occasionally they have been nominally at the top, but it has been Labour all the way down from there.

      Thankfully this has recently changed, OK they have been replaced by SNP, but at least some of their people show some signs of intelligence, baby steps…

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  30. 84
    olden1936 says:

    I dread any shape or form of commitee decision-making; EU or UK or any where else. If there is anyone who still has faith in supposed democratically-made commitee decisions I do recommend reading the book “Parkinsons Law; or the pursuit of progress” written by C. Northcote Parkinson. First published in the UK by John Murray, April 1958. It applied in 1958 and it certainly applies today 56 years later.

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  31. 93
    tigerowl says:

    Barmy Boris is sticking up for his mates. The EU want to regulate bankers bonuses. Tory led Britain were the only country to oppose that. Boris sees his future with the bankers. The people of this country see the bankers as why we are having austerity. Future leader in Boris?
    About as crazy idea as voting UKIP. But they too are led by an ex banker. So do difference there then.

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    • 107
      SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

      Try doing business without banks, do you want to live in a third world barter economy ?

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  32. 96
    Screwtape says:

    Hold the press! The London Guido supports the London Boris ( along with the rest of the Tory London media)

    No wonder it’s called the Stupid Party – having allowed itself to be conned by one quintessentially southern Old Etonian, One Nation europhile super posh toff back in 2005, it’s now setting itself up to be conned by an identikit copy.

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  33. 105
    joeb says:

    He’s right they are a complete sham. The Parliament is there for show, it has zero power. The Commission can do as it pleases, and that’s a fact. The Parliament only exists to give the impression that elected representatives can actually do something.

    Getting a load of UKIP MEP’s in there is worthless. However, it has value in that it will kick up a stink about membership etc in this country, and should provide some good videos of UKIPers (and others from elsewhere in Europe) standing up in the Parliament and tearing those cu*ts a new ar*ehole.

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  34. 106
    Nigel Farage doppelganger says:

    Bonking Boris cant keep his trouser flies zipped up, and wants an amnesty for all illegals.And he wants my vote- He has more chance of me pi**ing in the queens handbag than me voting for him.

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  35. 109
    Maimed Codger says:

    Is the EU the largest Ponzi Scheme in the World..

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  36. 113
    Denis Cooper says:

    Jesus, I can hardly believe that there’s still somebody around who hasn’t worked out that Boris Johnson is “an epic europhile”, when that has long been obvious and has now become apparent even to chicklit author Louise Bagshawe/Mensch.

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  37. 114
    Skeptic says:

    Renegotiations themselves are a sham and cannot be taken seriously by those who understand that renegotiations cannot happen unless we invoke article 50.

    ” the EU is a racket” . Yes and a very expensive one. Dave can his mock renegotiations as long as we get our referendum.

    Trade Only!

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  38. 115
    Ed The Eunuch says:

    Boris: “Euro-scepticism
    is rampant in large parts of
    Europe, and cynicism about the
    parliament is at an all-time
    high. I see no reason at all
    why Britain should not lead
    the way”

    What do Labour have to offer the electorate on Europe? Nothing! Zilch! Zero or at the very least a Status Quo.

    They wonder why their supporters are deserting them. They have nothing to sell to the electorate. Yet they cling to their magical & mythical number 35 which is on the decline.

    For all euro-skeptics on the political spectrum. A vote for Miliband is a wasted vote.

    Labour will sell you down the river on Europe.

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  39. 121
    broderick crawford says:

    WE BULLINGDON BOYS WERE BORN TO RULE !!

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