April 22nd, 2014

Labour’s Shadow Europe Minister Thinks Gibraltar is an Island

Gareth Thomas, Labour’s Shadow Minister for Europe, was banging on last week that the government wasn’t doing enough for Gibraltar. He boasts that he has “visited the island twice in the last six months” whilst whilst no Foreign Office Minister has visited since 2011. He is calling on “a Foreign Office Minister to visit the island as soon as possible to witness first hand the unnecessary delays and disruption to travellers trying to cross the border.”

Embarrassingly Gibraltar is, as any schoolboy knows, not an island. That border Gareth is talking about is a land border three-quarters of a mile long with Spain.

If he wants to be Europe minister he should probably get an atlas first.


159 Comments

  1. 1

    Good idea. We’ll see if he can find his arse with it.

  2. 2
    The Bog Standard Labour Party says:

    Typical Bog standards from the Labour Party.

  3. 3
    Time 2 CTRL, ALT & DEL says:

    No man is an island either.

  4. 4
    ʍȫʊʂʂȁ ҞϴџṦṦậ says:

    When will George Osborne’s Tax arrangements go under the microscope. It seems that he complains about Offshore Tax arrangements but uses them via his Trust Fund to boost his income. Maria Miller claimed that Osborne’s flipping and expense claiming was more outrageous than hers were, and the fact that his Family Company Osborne and Little have been a successful Company for years while not paying any Tax suggest that an Independent Press would have plenty to examine forensically. Unfortunately Cameron’s father’s record which paid for the Eton Education seems to have been off limits for the Press and I fear Osborne will also be allowed to carry on as usual

  5. 5
    Time 2 CTRL, ALT & DEL says:

    educated to GCSE A* standard no doubt

  6. 6
    Kinnock's combover says:

    Labour MPs really are lower than vermin

  7. 7
    thostids says:

    Pay peanuts, get monkeys. Mr Thomas doesn’t hale from that asset-less principality that now calls itself a Country called Wales?

  8. 8
    Ippikin says:

    Typical Labour . . Open size 8 mouth and insert size 12 boot!

  9. 9
    U Have 2 B Doubly Dim 2 Vote Labour says:

    Ha! Ha!

  10. 10
    frenchjohn says:

    Obviously a product of Blair’s ‘Education, education, education.’ Uneducated onanist!

  11. 11
    Ippikin says:

    Maybe he went to Malta but forgot where he was. After all they speak good English there too.

  12. 12
    Ippikin says:

    Tut tut.
    Surely you are not suggesting that our poor overworked teachers have failed in any way?
    I always understood that A* was reserved for the very cream of our youth, not some bleak 40% er from a comprehensive.

  13. 13
    ancientpopeye says:

    True. Just another ignorant moron.
    Having said that I can remember some runs ashore at La Linea about 60 years ago.

  14. 14
    M103 says:

    Gidiot has borrowed more in 3 years than Labour did in 13. That’s all waiting down the road when that debt needs paying back.

    But the Press conveniently overlooks that, as do the Tory paid bloggers who post hereabouts.

  15. 15
    TNT says:

    Delivery of Zyklon B for Mr Duncan Smith

  16. 16
    Postit Notes says:

    It’s hard to find Gibraltar when your looking through your own ar5e

  17. 17
    Lady Margaret Hodge (nee Oppenheimer) says:

    When will my offshore tax arrangements go under the microscope? Or Gordon and Tony’s?
    Or are you just another hypocritical lefty, Moussa, never looking at your own

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    Old Blue Eyes says:

    And he’s a shadow Minister. God help us if they win the General Election.

  20. 20
    Lokal says:

    I think I might have read the odd adverse comment about Gideon’s borrowing on this site, you blind fucking twat.

  21. 21

    You didn’t enjoy yourself then?

  22. 22
    Herman Van Rumplepuss says:

    What exactly is a national border?

  23. 23
    Chris Bryant MP says:

    I love blowing Maltesers

  24. 24
    Fucking dis custard says:

    Do you bum

  25. 25
    Blind fucking twat says:

    Unfortunately our “recovery” is based on a housing market bubble, rather than anything good Osborne has done

  26. 26
    sometime I wonder, then I think who cares says:

    You need to remember 13 years Liebour reigned and everything they touched from gold to vehicle building to the NHS to plod to looking after kids in council homes fell apart, they taxed/ stole private pensions from ordinary working people and heavily taxed company cars, they put up housing rates to at least 3 times the value and were even going to tax outbuildings and gardens and force us to have id cards sold gold , lost billions in it projects and opened the door wide to immigration from the world, PFI, the list is long and we still have to live even to paying government pensions, they don’t come from savings but from a current account, get real and go back to LaLa land your medicine awaits.

  27. 27
    Nermal says:

    Phuck off you have been posting that crap for well over a year now, find something else to post.

  28. 28
    Anonymous says:

    Is this fount of knowledge by any chance a descendant of Lord North who thought that Canada was an island from where the Navy could be sent to recover the American Colonies
    .Education , Education Education Huh

  29. 29
    George Osborne says:

    Ah Gibraltar – nice tax haven.

  30. 30
    Nermal says:

    And he is considered to be one of the brightest in the labour part and is “going places”

  31. 31
    nell says:

    Cracking story for the attention of the intrepid and daring Guy News investigative team

    The financial affairs of David Cameron were under the spotlight today after a top Conservative journalist revealed he is making a mint on renting out his London home while living in Downing Street for free.

    Respected journalist Melissa Kite wrote in the London Evening Standard during the height of the Maria Miller sleaze scandal that: “A quick glance at the property portfolios of the Cabinet shows that there is much more for the public to be peeved about than Ms Miller’s profiteering.

    “David Cameron himself makes an estimated £6,000 a month from renting out his London home while living in Downing Street.”

    Ms Kite also revealed that the Prime Minister’s expenses claims included billing the taxpayer 7p for “a bulldog clip and 38p for a staple- remover.”

    Mr Cameron has faced previous criticism for maxing out the mortgage on his Oxfordshire constituency home to enable him to claim huge sums in mortgage interest from the taxpayer. During the last parliamentary expenses scandal it was revealed that he claimed £21,000 a year in mortgage relief on a giant loan despite being from a hugely wealthy family and having no mortgage on his London family home.

    Owen Jones said: “If what Ms Kite says is correct and we have no reason to believe that it is not then the Prime Minister is receiving more than £70,000 a year in rent while living for free in Downing Street. What was that line about us all being in it together? Anyhow, it is a cracking story for Guy News to get its teeth into, that’s for sure.”

  32. 32
    sometime I wonder, then I think who cares says:

    It’s one of those things that are not used in the EU, but some place if you cross a national border without permission they shoot you.

  33. 33
    jgm2 says:

    The punchline is that the Maximum Imbecile’s Mini-me, Ned Balls, wanted to borrow even more. This extra borrowing would, of course, be of the magic variety that reduces deficit and debt.

    Seriously.

    That was the plan.

    In fact I believe it remains the plan although Ned has been invisible since Labour’s poll lead went down to 1%.

  34. 34
    Dougal MacDougal of that ilk says:

    Isn’t it Miliband’s policy to hand over the Rock to Spain with no strings attached?

  35. 35
    Herman Van Rumplepuss says:

    Nope! Still no idea. Do you mean an area like the Mediterranean? That strip of water that separates Europe from Sub-Saharan Europe?

  36. 36
    sometime I wonder, then I think who cares says:

    I think if you check the back issues on this site Guido has had a go at your respected journo, can’t remember what it was about now :-)

  37. 37
    The Grouniad/BrownBullshitCorpse PliticleeCroct Foreign Affairs Dept says:

    yes, no, …. um ….. cough . .. . actually it was us wot trained him up to our usual standard – given that he was already pretty advanced wiv GCSE A Levorls, – ‘n that

    kno wotoimean?

    like

    innit

    cool

  38. 38

    Oh yes! That island. Wales.

  39. 39
    jgm2 says:

    That much is true. It’s a fucking catastrophe.

    We had 13 years of the Maximum Imbecile blowing up a housing bubble by creating 1,000,000 new public sector workers on greater than average salary, borrowing 30bn a year to pay them, pissing another 30bn a year into the economy in PFI and when it all went to shit what are we reduced to doing?

    Repeating the fucking dose.

  40. 40
    Gordon McBreath says:

    I never did that. Ask my brother.

  41. 41
    ʍȫʊʂʂȁ ҞϴџṦṦậ says:

    The thing that I don’t get about the Bedroom Tax is that most people who live in council accomodation didn’t get much choice about the place they were moved into in the first place.

    I mean, the council just says, here you are, take it or leave it basically. There isn’t much choice is there? You can’t like, say “Oh I don’t like the area” or “oh its a bit far from the local park” or “oh I don’t like the view from the windows” etc. You just apply to the council and wait for ages and then, they just give you one right?

    So they give a family a place and it has one too many bedrooms. Not the fault of the family who were given the place is it? Because they don’t get much choice in the matter.

    Or maybe they get given one and they make it their home, live their for years etc and maybe jnr grows up and goes to uni or he grows up and leaves home or maybe someone dies or whatever.

    So then the council, the same council that gave them the place in the first place, now comes to them and says “sorry, you have too many bedrooms now in the house that we gave you in the first place without giving you a choice in the matter, and now, because we have decided you don’t use that spare room, you have to pay a tax on it or you have to move.

    So, you reluctantly say “oh ok I will move,” and you prepare to leave your home of years, leave your friends and neighbours that you made, uproot your kid from school etc.

    Then the council say. “Oh sorry, you can’t move., We don’t have anywhere smaller for you to move to”.

    So you say, oh great. I didn’t want to move anyway.

    and the council THEN says. “Yeah but you still have to pay the tax anyway!!!

    That is taking the piss

  42. 42
    Pookie snackumberger says:

    Off topic.

    C O (Ξ7q1) ask’s on previous thread:

    “Question on my mind is, why are the BBC attacking her and his marriage ?”

    I think the Europhiles wanted to come up with a way to neutralise his German wife, as it doesn’t play with their default ‘racist’ meme.

    Now, they may hope, whenever the occasion to mention his wife in response to one of their ‘racist’ slurs, he just might not mention her; because if he does it reminds the Bbbc viewer of their shitty little slur.

  43. 43
    sometime I wonder, then I think who cares says:

    Can someone tell the media about what will now be for the next 24hours all about Manchester United and the sacking of some guy, nobody cares.

  44. 44
    ʍȫʊʂʂȁ ҞϴџṦṦậ says:

    From omnishambles to cockwombling arsetrombone.

  45. 45
    The Hodge offshore trust says:

    Of course they won’t! Lordy tax is for little people

  46. 46
    Boot Fair says:

    Give it up moosh, British politics is too much for your backward brain.

    Why not go back to your own country where the ‘elders’ decide what’s good for you and you don’t have to worry about our system.

  47. 47
    jgm2 says:

    Council houses are not and never were supposed to be handed down from generation to generation. They were supposed to be a half-way house whilst people got back on their feet and then moved out to make way for another unfortunate family.

    But the whole problem could be sorted out by embarking on a massive house-building program. It would provide jobs and cheaper homes. I wonder why Labour never did that?

    Oh wait, a quick perusal of the multiple flipping and refurbishing of Balls-Cooper and Darling tells us why the wanted houses to remain expensive.

  48. 48
    Grateful says:

    Thanks for that Nell, – I needed cheering up.

    Now, enjoy a nice drink, drink Melissa’s health, damn Cameron for his insolent arrogance and cod Christianity – and all his mealy mouthed cow-towing to the EUSSR, Bliar, and all the shitty Metropolitan pinko faux green tendency, and calm down.

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    Border Terrier says:

    Give it to Spain or some other Mediterranean land.

  51. 51
    Insider Dealer says:

    The only person who really likes Osborne is the best man at his wedding who just made £37 million on the crooked sell off of the Royal Mail. They really are all in it together.

  52. 52
    Housing office says:

    You ignorant twat, Moussa.
    When one applies for a council house, one says how many bedrooms one needs.
    You need to tick every box in the list so no-one without several factors (disability, young children etc) is likely to get one at all. They don’t hand out houses with excess rooms willy nilly.
    These cases are people who needed larger houses earlier but now have had kids move away etc and do not need the spare rooms.

  53. 53
    Bertrand says:

    Apart from the Isle of Man…

  54. 54
    Optician says:

    Separated from England by the mighty River 7 – just like Scortland is separated by the mighty River Forth, and Gibraltar from Spain by the mighty River Gibberish.

  55. 55
    Ed Sillyband says:

    Damn! how did you get hold of a copy of our manifesto?

    1. Tax banker bonuses to pay for everything

    2. Join the Euro

    3. Give Gibraltar back to Spain and the Malvinas to Argentina

  56. 56

    You have to laugh!

    The ferry company running the ships between Grand Casemates Square and La Línea de la Concepción would not even give him a job as a stoker…

  57. 57
    Gareth Thomas 2/10 in Geography...see me says:

    Is Australia an island?

  58. 58
    The Queen says:

    One only needs 170 bedrooms.

  59. 59
    Spodd says:

    Well what should you expect from a tip top education? They only need to know one thing as a politician, and that is how to claim expenses and try not to get caught, oh, and maybe be a master of lying!

  60. 60
    An American reader says:

    Listen, your Chancellor is someone whose chief response to the madness of the Celtic Tiger was to cheer it on and travel to Dublin to learn how to do it himself. He is probably not the best person to be in charge of a major economy.

  61. 61
    Anonymous says:

    I wouldn’t bother trying to explain it to the dopey twat he will just go on rebroadcast tomorrow and post the same crap.

    Meanwhile don’t mention mr mrs Balls double dipping and has the police investigation into the balls hit and run completed yet

  62. 62
    Nermal says:

    No Gareth it it not an island, in all my years as a teacher I have not heard a sillier question. We all know it has a border with Gibraltar and Austria.

  63. 63
    jgm2 says:

    Spain is so broke we could probably swap Gibraltar for the rest of Spain.

  64. 64
    ʍȫʊʂʂȁ ҞϴџṦṦậ says:

    Osborne’s legacy is – Food bank Britain

  65. 65
    sometime I wonder, then I think who cares says:

    I thought he was following Obama’s orders, after all your country is doing well with, what is it now 5 yeara of Obama.

  66. 66
    jgm2 says:

    Alex Salmond was another cheerleader for Dublin. And Iceland. And RBS. Until it all went tits up.

    Now that’s been airbrushed from Little Scotlander history.

  67. 67
    expat says:

    Do you honestly believe that was from Nell?

  68. 68
    sometime I wonder, then I think who cares says:

    Mousey food-banks were around in Liebourland in 2004, nothing like an expert doing a bit of whitewash

  69. 69
    jgm2 says:

    Awwww moossa. Did nobody offer you a 40K job managing a foodbank? Awww, bless.

  70. 70
    Gareth Thomas l@@k you says:

    Some call me The Cock of Gibraltar.

  71. 71
    Anonymous says:

    Except Fred Madagascar.

  72. 72
    tachybaptus says:

    Osborne’s not a noob; he simply protects his friends, colleagues, caste and family with OUR money.

    World class scamming prick.

  73. 73
    loaves and fishes says:

    M103 is so fucking thick he thinks Labour can reduce the debt by introducing no austerity measures whatsoever.

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    Norman Normal says:

    Paid for blogging? Where do I apply lol?

  76. 76
    sometime I wonder, then I think who cares says:

    Even the money tree has died from being picked clean all the time ,good job they can a few pence for the wood, though the carbon tax might out-way the price.

  77. 77
    ʍȫʊʂʂȁ ҞϴџṦṦậ says:

    This government and its fictional “recovery” reminds me of a scene from Orwell’s 1984.

    There is a scene where chocolate rations are reduced but the telescreens triumphantly announce it has been increased.

    Winston Smith is stopped by a neighbour on the stairs to his housing block who cheerily announces “double-plus good comrade, chocolate rations are up”

  78. 78
    ʍȫʊʂʂȁ ҞϴџṦṦậ says:

    Beneficiaries in Osborne’s Britain:

    Banksters
    Corporates
    Tax dodgers
    City spivs
    Oligarchs
    Private Landlords

  79. 79
    Ward 18 Unit 3 says:

    I look forward to our next Labour Government who will of course get us out of the shit by consolidating our debts with Wonga.com and then borrowing billions more.

  80. 80
    ʍȫʊʂʂȁ ҞϴџṦṦậ says:

    Too many capital letters and no references to militwit and bullyballs

  81. 81
    Is 'e 'avin' a larf? says:

    He’s the MP for Harrow West (that’s north of South-ampton, and East of Wittering).
    The man knows all this for he was Shadow Minister for Higher Education and Science from October 2010 to October 2011, yes, that’s HIGHER Education and Science.

  82. 82
    jgm2 says:

    There is a scene where chocolate rations are reduced but the telescreens triumphantly announce it has been increased.

    A bit like the 10% tax being ‘reduced’ to 20% you mean?

  83. 83
    ʍȫʊʂʂȁ ҞϴџṦṦậ says:

    By the way, mummy said that my winkie growing in size when I gaze at my photo of Ed Miliband is quite normal.

  84. 84
    That jellyfish says:

    I tried hard for you Britain. Very hard.

  85. 85
    SoVile Compo Fund says:

    No chance. There are full stops and text which doesn’t read like Mumsnet in the 50s.

  86. 86
    Another useless Labour twerp says:

    What a plonker. He should resign in shame.

    I bet the Spanish are delighted they’ll be up against this kind of “talent” when discussing the future of British sovereign territory.

  87. 87
    mr offshore account says:

    That’s The Guardian fucked as well then.

  88. 88
    SoVile Compo Fund says:

    Au contraire, dear Mussie fellow.

    You will see from carnsill harse programmes on TV that your lot who are the only ones who get a house now, from your lot, employed solely in the public service but not providing anything of the sort, that the applicants get to choose and reject for the flimsiest of reasons.

    Of course your lot cluck and wring hands over this. It’s surprising you’ve not one yourself, have you not arranged your postal votes yet?

  89. 89
    SoVile Compo Fund says:

    Perhaps minimum education standards should apply, say two GCSEs?

  90. 90
    gelatinous and generally transparent or translucent, free-swimming planktonic carnivore says:

    I have been walking around a very poor and desperate area of Britain today

    I’m not going to say where, it’s irrelevant. I’m sure there are many areas like this.

    If Cameron and Osborne bothered to ever get out of their comfy desks in Downing Street they would see the real truth out there. Boarded up shops. Food banks. More homeless people. Instead they look at the top line figures of artificially inflated house price led growth and they tap out this crap about recovery. Go and visit people who are struggling and then tell me Osborne and Cameron are doing a good job.

    Quislings

  91. 91
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    That picture looks nothing like Roj Blake :-)

  92. 92
    ʍȫʊʂʂȁ ҞϴџṦṦậ says:

    Osborne is nothing but a piece of verminous lying Tory scum. He has made the abject poor, sick, disabled, dying and aged pay for the criminal actions of the equally verminous parasitic bankers who have brought the western world to its financial knees with the help of traitorous politicians and covered up by our treacherously dishonest mogul controlled media. They are all doing lasting damage to our country and its people and are proud of their betrayal.

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    Johngo Bongo says:

    He does have a nice haircut though.

  94. 94

    HMS Hermes 1960/61. Was attached to Spain then, I think. Still got the hangover. Had an ‘O’ level in cookery but new my way round Europe. Probably why I’m not a Minister.

  95. 95
    Yazspleen Alibaba says:

    Also remember millionaire camoron claimed DLA

  96. 96
    Henry Crun says:

    He couldn’t find his arse with both hands and a copy of Gray’s Anatomy.

  97. 97

    It’s also important to consider the comment in the context of the overall report. We feel considering the report as a whole and the terminology used, it was clear, accurate and impartial.

  98. 98
    look at me I right a column in the lamestream media says:

    Embarrassingly, Guido might have looked up island in a dictionary before writing this post.

    1. a tract of land completely surrounded by water, and not large enough to be called a continent.

    2. something resembling an island, especially in being isolated or having little or no direct communication with others.

    I.E. The shadow minister is correct in his usage.

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    jgm2 says:

    No doubt they’ll have Labour MPs these ‘poor and desperate areas’.

    What great leap forward did they make during 13 years of reckless squandering or ‘investment’?

  100. 100
    Shut that door says:

    Don’cha mean “Man Teasers”? Pants!

  101. 101
    pedant says:

    Severn, not seven

  102. 102
    M­a­­q­bo­­ul says:

    As if the British public give a toss while hordes of East European immigrants allowed in by the last Labour government take British jobs from British workers.

  103. 103
    Gib At That says:

    And yet…this is what the Chief Minister says:

    “We are not an island, but we consider ourselves one,” said Picardo.

    So maybe he was just flattering the Gibraltans.

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    Ippikin says:

    Thank God for him, coz if he can’t then I doubt if his shirt-lifting comrades could either.

  105. 105
    Ippikin says:

    Spent my time in The Gut around then!

  106. 106
    Ippikin says:

    Isn’t that the river that runs through Shrewsbury, surrounded by brambles and dog turds?

  107. 107
    Ippikin says:

    Never heard of South Wittering.

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    Ippikin says:

    Sounds all Dutch to me!

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    The Wrong Miliband says:

    Of course, you will have spotted my deliberate mistake – everyone knows that the Malvinas belong to Spain and Gibraltar belongs to Argentina.

    Just testing !

    
    
    

    [Phew – think I got away with that one.]

    [And if Axlerod should ask, I was distracted by that bloody pigeon.]

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    Ippikin says:

    I think I know the answer to this apparent laspse of knowledge.
    Labour have decided that if they confer ‘Island’ status to Gib, they can claim interference by Spanish matelots incurring onto their territory and then send their apes over the border into Spain to sort the buggers out.
    Following this, they will find many Gibraltarians living over the border who decide they want a referendum on self-rule, Spain will cede to the British, Labour will be heroes and win the election.
    Any no shots fired in anger, no opium smoked, no tea chucked into the harbour and the Zulus don’t even have to sharpen their spears.

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    ʍȫʊʂʂȁ ϴџṦṦậ says:

    If I put my finger up by bottom it smells.

  112. 112
    Fishy says:

    Good try, but an Embarrassing post none the less

  113. 113
    Nursey says:

    Gordon…put that laptop down and go to bed, NOW

  114. 114
    Mark Oaten says:

    Put it up mine if you like!

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    NE Frontiersman says:

    It’s ours because at the Treaty of Utrecht we gave Spain back the Balearics.

    If Spain really wants Gib back, the answer’s obvious.

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    The two muppets. says:

    Just another inept thick Labour front bench tosser .Par for the course .

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    HenryV says:

    You mean God help us when they win the General Election.

  118. 118
    HenryV says:

    No. Council or social housing is all about collectivism and communism. Families live in social housing are dependent on the state and so are vassals of the state. Soviet flats were (are) small for two reasons. One materials are expensive. Two little room at home means families were forced to use collective facilities (be they for recreation, education, or domestic reasons) this destroys the family unit as individual members spend more time with their peers. Further if they were together more often than not it was in the company of other families; this is a good way of stifling free speech and free thought due to humanity’s innate drive to conform.

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    HenryV says:

    I am being moderated! Well done cyber-Guido.

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    Guidopedia says:

    The isthmus connecting Gibraltar to the rest of the Iberian peninsula was sandy beach/semi-tidal marsh land as recently as the 1900’s. Indeed there are pictures during the 1930’s showing only the constructed road above the waterline at high tide.

    It is only with modern development that it has become solid land, which has in turn caused further sand deposit forming more ground.

    At the time of Phoneticians, it is certainly believed it was an island at all tide levels, it is believed from excavations, that they had many sacred sites in some of the caves around the Gibraltar shore, and higher up with some believing they consider the whole (then) island a sacred site.

    Going way back to the Neanderthal period, the straight of Gibraltar had not yet opened, Europe was not separated from Africa, the Mediterranean had not flooded yet, so there were planes of open low land around the rock, where they would hunt (again this is form the geological record and also from items found during excavations).

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    Graham says:

    Most Liebour MPs are thick Hunts. This prick is simply another example , and the brain dead twats will probably vote for him.

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    The wizz says:

    Nell: Would this Ms Kite be any relation to a well known Fred Kite, of the union.

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    Cost-of-Labour-crisis says:

    Ed has picked his top team.

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    Gwido Wake Up says:

    how does this plonker manage to relentlessly post this sh1te and many of the rest of us are modded to oblivion??

  125. 125
    Gwido Wake Up says:

    change your name to something like mouse-arka – seems to work for others

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    Anonymous says:

    And who can forget Brown’s “zero percent rise” in spending, eh Moussa?

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    Here be dragons says:

    This is the same sort of politician who thinks that Britain is part of Europe.

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    Here be dragons says:

    “phoneticians”, “planes of …land”, ” number’s ”

    What Labour sinkhole school did you go to?

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    Genetically modified commenter says:

    you’ve got a nostril on the end of your finger? weirdo.

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    Minister for Hydrocephaly says:

    the fact that he calls a tract of land not 100% surrounded by water an island, indicates that this Labour MP is especially isolated and has little or no direct communication with normal people.

    In case you hadn’t noticed, Gibraltar isn’t completely surrounded by water… unlike your brain.

    The shadow minister remains incorrect; and you have demonstrated yourself to be thick.

    You are Gareth Thomas, and I claim my Labour debt mountain.

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    Minister for Hydrocephaly says:

    Having said that… digging a moat across it and a sea wall around it wouldn’t be a bad idea.

    Perhaps he mistook the King of the Hill for a Tory MP, and imagines some Labour votes materialising there?

  132. 132
    Guidar says:

    when was the last time you saw the word “winkie” appear on a blacklist? be a bit more focking imaginitive you cont.

  133. 133
    confabulations and exclavations! says:

    Yeah… give Morocco Ceuta & Melilla back; return Llívia to France; and Os de Civís to Andorra.

    Everything the Spanish do with Gibraltar should be 100% reciprocated with Ceuta every time to equate them in the public mind, and demonstrate Spain’s hypocrisy.

  134. 134
    work it out says:

    This is the interesting point… Socialists talk about the state housing system as a way of providing accommodation for all without discrimination, but boy do they discriminate… you are incentivised to make yourself as vulnerable as possible (I speak from experience btw, as being in a Joseph and Mary scenario once) to score points to get up the list; then once you’re on, the home is effectively your offspring’s… the more you have the more secure you are, and then when you get to the overcrowding point, the offspring get points for having come from a council house background, and obviously can plead local connection ad nauseam, and effectively inherit the council house, if they don’t get a council flat.
    What has been created is a hereditary system for untermensch who are incentivised to remain untermensch… getting trained and employed and a private rental is genuinely hard when you come from such a background, and that suits Labour just fine, because they can just turn round to those untermensch and tell them to blame rich people for having unfair privilege, and of course they buy into that resentment, and keep voting Labour… the Labour Party is effectively a political scam. Their vote is as dependent on the benefits system as many of their voters.

    When council houses were built, and when national insurance and the nhs and all these things were created, Labour was a party of people who worked and who wanted better conditions.

    The obvious answer to the subsequent malaise is to return to that core idea – work.
    You get stuff if you work; you don’t get stuff if you don’t work.

    Extend this to studying… full-time course are useless… what people need is on-the-job training to be funded, not a bloated boy scout badge system of alphabetty spaghetti qualifications.

    Pull the money from universities, and put it into tax breaks for employers to take on trainees of all ages, and only give council houses and nhs services and benefits to those who actually do some work… even if it’s just an hour a day… just something…

    Until Labour grasp that, they are redundant as a force. None of the Tory boys and girls running Labour now have any idea about getting up in the morning, getting on a bike or a bus, and going to work in a shit job that they hate, and working out how to stretch £200 a week… they haven’t lived it; they don’t understand it; they can’t represent it.
    Labour should be about hope; but they are about despair – UKIP is about hope.

  135. 135
    work it out says:

    NO!… we don’t need more houses… what we need is mass deportation of immigrants and leaving the EU.

    The number of houses isn’t the problem… the number of immigrants is the problem.

    There is the right number of houses; but the wrong number of immigrants.

    Forcing interest rates up to 5% minimum would also bring the much needed correction to bring housing prices back in line with income and end the polarisation in society caused by Gordon Brown and financial workers party.
    The mortgage defaults should then create conditions for houses to return to the state stock (people not having to move); and for a lot of houses to become shared ownership ones so people don’t have to move out.

    The housing bubble is directly linked to the Labour immigration bubble.

    Line up the cruise ships, and get them out!

  136. 136
    Jason H says:

    Reminds me of the Robin Williams quote from Good Morning Vietnam….

    “And in other news, the British have recognized the island state of Singapore.. How do you recognize an island? “Haven’t I seen you before? You look a lot like Hawaii.. Were you at the island mitzvah last year?”

    Noting for Labourites that Gibraltar is a PENINSULAR, not an island – it shares a border with that other big island…. EUROPE!

  137. 137
    work it out says:

    Labour’s housing bubble… who started squishing interest rates down to sub-inflationary levels… as if 3% wasn’t low enough.

    Some people remember when 7% was considered low.

  138. 138
    SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

    I agree those food banks are a disgrace…………… CLOSE THEM DOWN NOW!!!!

  139. 139
    Russellw says:

    Several Conservative MEPs have spent time there recently & have expressed exasperation with the EU’s attitude

  140. 140
    Dusty Miller says:

    another Brain Donor hits centre stage !

  141. 141
    majorfrustration says:

    education education education -

  142. 142
    The Critic says:

    Also a Cooperative Party MP. Part of that unholy alliance. Given the issues with Spain recently, did he really need to visit(at our expense probably) and why twice in six months? Blindingly obvious, I would have thought, that visitors would have trouble crossing the border when tensions arise between the two countries.

    FO Ministers probably have better things to do. Gareth obviously does not.

  143. 143
    Mmmm, custard creams says:

    He may not know that Gib is not an island, but at least he seems concerned about the place and has actually visited, which is more than the spoon-faced twat or any of his cohorts has managed.

  144. 144
    Anonymous says:

    “Labour’s Shadow Europe Minister Thinks Gibraltar is an Island”
    Let us pray he soon learns that neither Gibraltar, nor insular political ideology, is an island.

  145. 145
    Old Blue Eyes says:

    No, I live in hope that the Jocks vote to p*ss off and a large percentage of the kippers come to their senses and realise that voting for UKIP is voting for a Labour government. I say that as someone who has every sympathy with the UKIP principles but is a realist with regard to what their chances are of getting more than a handful of MPs elected.

  146. 146
    Loony lefty watch says:

    No hope for him as he lives in a one way street with no U-turns allowed.

  147. 147
    Loony lefty watch says:

    ..,. and fuuckin’ learn how to spell dr*ve. How many more times do you have to be told???

  148. 148
    Loony lefty watch says:

    Lots of of illegal immigs now coming through Ceuta. Handy to have a poorly defended lace on the mainland!

  149. 149
    Loony lefty watch says:

    *place

  150. 150
    Loony lefty watch says:

    You can get them at the end of junior school these days.

  151. 151
    Cynic2 says:

    Clearly an Oik. This is why we lost an Empire

  152. 152
    HenryV says:

    I don’t think the Labour Party were ever the party of the people. They were are the party of middle class professional working in how can I put it? the more social professions. Back in the old days when it was grim up north the socialists in say a pit village tended to be the school teacher or the vicar or even the doctor. Professions if you like that lived off social needs. Throw in a couple of grammar school lads who haven’t forgot their roots. And, don’t laugh, the daughters of the rich looking for something edgy and hey presto you have a socialist party. But don’t think ever that is was about supporting the poor or working man. No it was certain sections of the middle class telling the lowing classes what was good for them; while all the time envying (and despising) the upper class. Once the people believe in you you have a constituency and that equals power. And power so I am lead to believe is addictive.

  153. 153
    broderick crawford says:

    ahh…but do we allow him to be naked with both hands free in a fully
    mirrored neon lit room whilst trying to do so ?

  154. 154
    broderick crawford says:

    yeah … but do we place him naked in a fully mirrored neon lit room with both hands free whilst trying to do so in order to help him a tad .

  155. 155
    John Bellingham says:

    He went to St Paul’s, you imbecile.

  156. 156
    John Bellingham says:

    Sorry, I misread your post, I thought you were suggesting that GO went to Eton–my apologies.

  157. 157
    RichUpNorth says:

    He looks like a world-class tit. Typical Labour PIE cnut.

  158. 158
    Anonymous says:

    Just………gawdhelpus!

  159. 159
    Anonymous says:

    No choice, how about not choosing that the state (tax payer) supplys accommodation. I reckon thats a nice old choice, I have to live where I can afford, like millions of us.
    Also I’m a londoner , my parents had to move us out to the sticks to be able to buy a home, while I spent my life working in and supporting london, I could never afford to move back inside the M25, I’m sick of people who have lived there 5 minutes, talking about being ethnically cleansed because the can’t have the exact number of rooms in exactly the right spot.
    My brother brother in-law has just swapped his council flat on the Acton Vale estate with an Iranian woman who has a place overlooking the sea at Brighton. I’d love a choice to live there but I can’t afford it. Wonder who can I whinge to.


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